She DIVORCED Him For BAD $3X?! Dating A FEEDER?! Husband CHEATED With Men?! | Dating Talk #147

Date: 2024-03-27

Duration: 7h 42m

Guests

Brian Atlas

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TTaylor (DT147)>

JJamill (DT147)>

KKatie (DT147)>

NNatalie Winters >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Naomi(guest)

SPEAKER_06Mari(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Jamill (+ Kira bleed)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Bri(guest)

SPEAKER_12Katie(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kira(guest)

SPEAKER_14Natalie Winters(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions round. Nine guests introduce themselves. Notable: Natalie Winters (War Room co-host, returning), Naomi (OnlyFans, returning ~1 month), Jamill (39yo RN, divorced after 18yr marriage). Show title references three key stories: bad sex divorce, feeder fetish, husband cheating with men.

“"we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location"”

Key MomentJamill reveals her 18-year marriage ended after husband disclosed Craigslist affairs with men and desire to swing with both men and women. She refused and initiated divorce ~2 years ago. Led to extended dead bedroom. Has 2 kids. Now in a 1-month FWB. This is the "Husband CHEATED With Men" title reference.

“"one of the first things being that he started seeing some people some guys from Craigslist"”

Key MomentBri reveals her 5-year ex had a secret feeder/weight-gain fetish. Discovered 400+ messages on his drunk phone at a friend's wedding showing him telling overweight women to gain weight and monitoring their food intake. He had been taking Bri to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week. This is the "Dating A FEEDER" title reference.

“"it was like a feeding fetish chubby chaser it wasn't even just chubby chasing feeder"”

QuoteBri describes discovering her feeder ex had been taking her to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week during COVID as part of his feeding behavior. "I thought going out to all you can eat sushi multiple times a week was normal — it's not."

“"going out to all you can eat sushi multiple times a week was normal it's not"”

ControversyNatalie Winters (War Room co-host) debates OnlyFans creators Naomi and Mari on ethics and societal impact of sex work. Argues it destroys nuclear family, is anti-intellectual, and predatory on lonely men. Naomi/Mari defend with companionship and autonomy arguments. Extended debate touches on Christianity, porn addiction, feminist theory.

“"I just think what you guys do is considerably considerably worse for the country for society"”

QuoteMari defends OnlyFans using reincarnation theology: her physical body will not carry to the next life so her current physical choices are irrelevant from a spiritual standpoint.

“"I believe in reincarnation so my body right now this body isn't going to come with me to the next life"”

QuoteNatalie Winters reveals she has been sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party for investigative reporting and has been cited by Congress.

“"I'm sanctioned by the Chinese Communist party because of my investigative reporting I'm cited by Congress"”

OtherSelf-ratings round. Most women rate themselves 10. Mari: 10 (mood-dependent). Emmy: 10. Naomi: 10. Katie: 6. Bri: 8. Brian: 5. Brian declines to validate the 10 self-ratings. Viewer TTS donor assigns ratings by clothing description.

“"ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you"”

ControversyMari suggests men who prefer virgins are "predatory" (pedo-adjacent). Unable to defend argument when Brian challenges with 25-year-old virgin scenario. Says it "just gives the ick." Cannot name 10 books supporting her witchcraft beliefs. Calls Christianity a cult based on a missionary's explanation of grace. Double standard noted: will not make same claim about Islam.

“"it just gives you the ick potentially pword potentially"”

QuoteBody count round: Naomi states body count is "less than 20" and declines exact number. Mari states 5, Brian applies ×3 rule of thumb. Jamill's count of 29 referenced in group.

“"uh five five mhm I'm 22 years old multiply by three and that's the real number"”

QuoteKatie argues people can grow beyond a high body count or promiscuous past. "There's always a lid to every pot" — even someone with an egregious past can find someone who accepts them for who they are now.

“"there's always a lid to every pot so even if you do egregious things when you're younger"”

OtherEnd of show. Brian wraps up around 7:42 AM (running very late). Raids Twitch streamer. Crew signs off.

“"it is quite literally past my bedtime"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status

Nine guests introduce themselves: Mari (22, Orlando, event promoter/OnlyFans), Emmy (22, Bay Area, UCSB sociology), Naomi (26, Phoenix, OnlyFans, returning), Taylor (25, Bay Area, RBT), Kira (24, Bay Area, SBCC comm), Jamill (39, RN/standup comedian, divorced 18yr marriage), Katie (41, OC, optical, single 7yr), Bri (26, Santa Clarita, public health student), Natalie Winters (23, Palm Beach, War Room co-host, returning). Relationship status round: three guests are returning (Naomi, Natalie Winters, and Kira per context). Notable: Jamill recently divorced after husband revealed interest in men and swinging.

Jamill: husband cheated with men / divorce story

Jamill (SPEAKER_10) describes her 18-year marriage ending: husband confessed around year 14-15 that he had been seeing men from Craigslist, then disclosed he wanted to swing with other men and women. She refused and initiated divorce ~2 years ago. Preceded by an extended dead bedroom. She was married 2005. Two kids.

Bri: ex-boyfriend feeder fetish story

Bri (SPEAKER_11) reveals her 5-year ex-boyfriend had a secret feeder/weight-gain fetish. Discovered 400+ messages on his drunk phone at a friend's wedding. Messages showed him monitoring women's food intake pre/post meals, telling them they weren't worthy unless they gained. He had taken Bri to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week. She had gained weight during COVID; he encouraged it. After breakup: had brief revenge sex with 2 men.

OnlyFans debate: ethics, value, and societal impact

Extended debate between Natalie Winters (SPEAKER_14, anti-OnlyFans), Naomi (SPEAKER_03, does OnlyFans), and Mari (SPEAKER_06, does OnlyFans). Natalie argues OnlyFans normalizes commodification of women's bodies and destroys nuclear family. Naomi and Mari argue it provides companionship, is no different from Twitch, and is her choice. Religion debate embedded: Bri (SPEAKER_11, Christian) engages Natalie on Christianity vs. Mari's reincarnation/spiritual worldview. Natalie's credentials: War Room co-host, sanctioned by CCP, cited by Congress. Naomi defends: she was in corporate tech before, does OnlyFans by choice, parents are supportive. Porn addiction debate: Naomi disputes it's scientifically proven; Brian cites Adams et al. 1999.

Christianity vs. OnlyFans / religion and sexuality debate

Embedded in OnlyFans debate: Mari and Naomi defend their work using reincarnation and "it's going to happen anyway" arguments. Bri and Natalie push back from Christian perspective. Mari: "I believe in reincarnation — this body doesn't come with me to the next life." Bri: discusses exit plan from sex work and Christian accountability. Natalie: argues promiscuity has more societal cost for women than men (pair bonding argument). Reference to Michael Knowles's 10-year partying period vs. now being traditional.

Relationship status and single panel details

Brian goes around table examining single women's dating situations. Taylor: 3 years single, 8-month situationship; hookups that didn't become relationships. Kira: 1 year single, not looking (moving). Mari: 1.5-2 years single. Emmy: 6-7 months, not looking (moving). Jamill: FWB 1 month, most serious since divorce. Naomi: 2+ years single. Katie: single 7 years, briefly dated in summer. Bri: just out of 5-year relationship (a few weeks). Natalie: has a man "a little in the picture."

Roster / dating multiple people simultaneously

Brian asks who has dated or slept with multiple people simultaneously. Bri (SPEAKER_11): yes, 2 men after 5-year breakup (revenge sex). Someone (likely Taylor/Emmy, SPEAKER_02): 3-4 people casually in past. Others: mixed; most say no roster or just casual overlap. Mari: relationship girl; doesn't maintain a roster. Natalie: "never had a roster."

Partner preferences round

Brian asks each guest desired partner income and number of kids. Mari: min $50k; 3 kids. Emmy: just financially stable; ~2 kids (unsure). Naomi: depends on lifestyle; 3-5 kids. Taylor: stable; 2 kids max. Kira: not specified clearly. Jamill: enough for kids to live comfortably. Katie: at least $75-80k; one child (done; IUD). Bri: stability; stay-at-home mom early on; 2 kids. Natalie: more than her father (infectious disease doctor); 2-3+ kids (above replacement). Brian: would marry if she's rich and has large labia (joke/tangent).

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Viewer (Stiffler) asks panel to rate looks 1-10. Order (going around table): Mari: 10 (mood-dependent; sometimes 1). Emmy: 10. Naomi: 10. Someone (Taylor or Kira): 7. Someone: 6. Someone (Jamill): 7 approx. Katie: 6. Bri: 8. Natalie: did not explicitly state (donor rated her ~6.8). Brian: 5. Brian declines to assign ratings to guests ("you guys are not tens — no offense"). Donor TTS: "natal 6.8 Raven hair 7 used baggage 3 mamas San 2 obes blond 2 bimbo 4 a cup bimbo 3 deep voice C four goth thard."

League theory / men sleeping outside their league

Brian explains theory: women get rejected on the back end, men on the front end. Men will sleep with women below their league but not commit; this creates situationships when women overestimate their league. "Your league is who you can get commitment from, not who you can sleep with." Debate over whether women who self-rate high are delusional. Extended discussion with Emmy (SPEAKER_02) who says rating is subjective/pointless. "Will you be more attractive in 10-20 years?" round: Most guests say yes; Brian calls it delusional for those over 22. Exception: Bri (26) says no, youthfulness peaks earlier.

Would you date a World of Warcraft player

Brian asks if guests would date a WoW player (7-14 hrs/day). Emmy: 7 hours is a lot but if he's making money streaming, ok. Bri: no (it's too much time). Mari: if he's a Twitch streamer making money, maybe. Katie: her ex/baby daddy played Dungeons & Dragons. Brian discusses Season of Discovery Phase 3, raid composition, guild leader responsibilities, split-raiding for loot. Twitch raid from "Stay Safe" mid-show.

Plastic surgery / cosmetic procedures debate

Brian reconfirms natural body supremacist position. Prefers: flat chest over implants, natural labia over labiaplasty, natural lips over filler, natural belly over lipo, natural ass over BBL. Naomi reveals she got a labiaplasty during her year of celibacy (2022). Brian: "that's a dagger to my heart." Katie: former esthetician; left beauty industry over values conflicts. Discussion of who is to blame for unrealistic beauty standards: majority say "a little bit of both" (men and women). Brian: biological male preferences (large butts, big breasts) drive some of it, but not blame per se. Natalie: cosmetics companies and social media are primary drivers.

Abortion debate

Brief abortion discussion triggered by chat TTS. Emmy (SPEAKER_02): abortion acceptable for emergency situations; not a simple issue. Bri (SPEAKER_11): values life; stricter position. Brian: returns to topic briefly then moves on.

Who should pay on dates

Brian asks who should pay on a first date. Mari and Naomi: whoever asks should pay. Emmy: man should pay to show he's courting. Bri: traditional — man should pay. Katie: split down the middle (first couple dates); once in relationship, alternating. Natalie: man pays as provider expression. Brian: suboptimal to pay for women who made prior men wait but now won't make you wait.

Last name debate: would you take husband's name

Brian asks if women would take husband's last name. Most say yes or probably yes. Bri: yes (traditional). Natalie: yes. Mari: probably yes but depends on last name. Katie and others: probably/open to it.

Virgin preference / "pedo" debate

Mari (SPEAKER_06) suggests men who prefer virgin women may be "predatory" (pedo adjacent). Brian challenges: is a 25-year-old virgin woman's male admirer a pedo? Mari cannot explain her argument; says it "gives the ick." Brian: are Christian and Muslim men who prefer virgins PWs? Mari says yes for Christians, avoids comment on Muslims. Bri (SPEAKER_11) and Natalie (SPEAKER_14) push back as Christians. Mari calls Christianity a "cult" due to her interpretation of grace/salvation doctrine. Bri explains Christian theology on free will and grace. Brian notes double standard: Mari criticizes Christianity but not Islam.

Body count round

Brian asks guests for body counts. Mari (SPEAKER_06): 5 (Brian applied ×3 skepticism). Naomi (SPEAKER_03): declined ("less than 20"). Group count round: "Angel nine, 29" called out — Jamill stated 29. Bri (SPEAKER_11): less than 10 (only within relationships). Natalie Winters (SPEAKER_14): declined to disclose. Brian: declined ("personal rule not to disclose"). Extended debate: does body count define a person? Katie (SPEAKER_12): disagrees — people can change and grow. Natalie: there is a meaningful difference between men's and women's promiscuity impacts.

Transcript

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Natalie Wintersborn with 11 but it's not wrong to say that humans have 10 fingers yeah and and I think naturally biologically women are are

Natalie Winterswired to to be more submissive but I think when you kind of throw in the love cultural stew of feminism and all these weird just new social standards like the me too movement I think makes it very

Natalie Wintershard for men to feel like they can approach women then you get women whether it's cope or they actually are delusional and believe it but thinking that they want to be more in their like masculine energy and making decisions

Natalie Wintersbut I think that's largely a side effect of culture as opposed to your biological wiring wait so you think

Brian Atlasit's what I mean if you had to assign a percentage in terms of women wanting men to be leaders and take initiative do you

Natalie Wintersthink it's 80% women 70% women a question of how many women really identify as feminists and have taken that as a core part of their identity I know there are some statistics that say

Brian Atlasit's like oh I wasn't asking you I was asking her I was like yeah sorry what was it how the percentage well cuz so I made the statement that while women want men to take initiative be leaders Etc

Brian Atlasand you were like well that's it's not all women and I don't know if you were arguing like I I'm not arguing I was just saying no no no I'm not upset if you are even if you are arguing but um like I don't think what you're saying is necessarily false I just don't think we

Brian Atlasshould generalize well I mean just for the sake of a conversation it can be helpful sometimes to generalize but I mean we

Brian Atlascan generalize I I mean in the sense that have you ever approached a guy I have you have I have G okay when you say

Brian Atlasyou approached a guy did you like make eye contact with him and you considered that making the approach no I'm not scared to go up to men if I find them attractive and maybe ask of all the times that you've gone on the first date

Brian Atlaswho initiated that there's been a few times I have you did yeah okay do you think that's the case for most women no no not necessarily okay do you think I do you think we could probably find like

Brian Atlasa large cohort of women who have never initiated absolutely okay but who have been on numerous first States yeah like do you think that there's like even the

Brian Atlasmajority of women have never even approached a guy but they've been on if they wanted to or maybe they have gone on dozens of First Dates yeah I agree with that do you think you could say the same thing about men that there's a

Brian Atlasmajority of men who have never made the first move and have been on dozens of dates no I don't think so so there's differences I mean there's differences anyways we were talking

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)about marriage oh again I don't I don't see the benefit right I agree with you uh having been married myself I think it

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)complicates a lot of things um goad go go ahead I think it complicates a lot of things you know uh financially that's a big one for me

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)financially like if I get into another relationship again I would prefer to have things um SE separated as far as

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)finances and kind of I I fiercely embrace my Independence as a woman um so I guess getting into

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)something that's a little bit more longterm I biggest thing I would do is probably move in with a person but um I think that you know with divorce and

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)finances and uh I think that that complicates a lot of things so I guess that's why I probably would never get married again

Bribut that's just just me um um I agree with you Brian that in the secular World um only women benefit from marriage and

Brian Atlasmen do not um there's no benefit men do not benefit no benefit it's all risk you're okay with that yes okay um Brian you answer my question would you get

Katiemarried would you get married sorry it's like in a civil ceremony why as a compromise like you're not legally getting married you're not signing any legal I I have to review the laws but in

Katiethis hypothetical no like if it was just for example a backyard party you have all of your friends and your family there and you're saying how much does she want verbal party is it what

Brian Atlas$10,000 it's just a barbecue but you said you wanted a ceremony said would this take place in a church like what do backyard say you're living together the the ceremony is we invite a bunch of our

Katiefriends over yeah and you yeah and you say commitments that's like some back she's getting she's getting what she wants which is a commitment

Katielike a like a commitment that she's showing in front of her friends and family but you get you're getting what you want not what is she actually getting like what is she for women and I and I know that a lot of women will

Katieconcur with me I think women and I'm not saying all women but I think a lot of women want the show want the the the

Katiehaving people make witness to The Testament of love and their love and having their friends and their family and having people witness it is a big deal for women and it's not about the

Brian Atlasparty and it's not about the money it's literally having all of the people that she loves in her life witness it am I alone you're

Brian Atlassay so women want to have the ceremony but they don't want to be a wife I don't think that's I've heard that say I don't think that's what she's saying I don't know if that's what she's saying but

Naomithen comparing it to a traditional like religious marriage like you still have that celebration right in front of everybody and like yes it's with God but it's still that celebration with your

Katieloved ones to to celebrate something what so so the commitment is what the love towards we have a ceremony your out representation of your commitment so wrong with that I mean you

Brian Atlascan make I'm good on the ceremony let's not have any friends over I don't want to do catering catering anyone that wants

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)to I'm good I'm good shut out of luck what what's the the ceremony it doesn't establish any sort of commitment I feel like some men actually like do

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)like the ceremony as well though like I think it is mostly for women but I think there are men out there that are like okay yeah like I want to show my friends and family like this is like the love of my life and it's just a fun like little celebration type I think there's a lot

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)of people out there that are like that and it doesn't have to do for some people it's not like about God and other people is regardless of how you feel about her are you willing to compromise for who you find partner and just do

Katiewhat they what would make them happy even if you don't see a beneficial point in it are you willing to do that what what is the Compromise though you you're not getting married legally but she's

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)getting a a commitment he said that he wouldn't compromise he wants a woman that wants to do exact there's some things you can compromise

Brian Atlason but I just fail to see the purpose right of a non like a nonbinding like ceremony I don't really I feel like it's a status symbol like

Natalie Winterswomen want to be able to be like I got the guy which as we all do but in the like hypergamous mind of women it's like you get to show off to your friends that you got the guy assuming he's like higher value cuz I feel like if you were marrying someone that your parents

Natalie Wintersdidn't approve of you wouldn't be all like let's go have a wedding and bring all the friends here and have and show it off to everyone I feel like it's kind of a you want to show off which is good you should want to show off your partner

Brian Atlasso then is that the difference in male female sexual so wait what the ceremony who who is at the head of theere question you're not nobody nobody's officiating it's just you and your partner but do I have to give a speech

Brian Atlasnot if you don't want to it's your it's your there's no ceremony then literally it's literally you just it's a party I'm okay with the party basic

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)want it could be could be as you exchanging anything could be a ceremony someone that does this podcast like he really nervous he's like is there going to be a speech no like what well cuz you

Marisaid you were introverted right well I guess it's different there's only so many people definition of a ceremony though I think that's what he's trying to get at what's the least am what's your definition of a ceremony

Maribecause there's a lot of different types of Ceremonies and do you know that marriages are also kind of considered as rituals word

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)word um as far as the ceremony goes I mean I guess I don't know fine go he'll do the barbecue I'll do I'll do a barbecue that just sounds like a party though it doesn't sound like AAL you not like part a party could be a ceremony I

Katiedon't like parties it literally could just be a couple sentences back and for sentences yeah no more than 5 minutes seem so back woods Haggard I don't I don't know if you didn't like want to have like a huge

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)wedding like you didn't like you don't necessarily need to like you have it with just like a few people that's the thing anti-wedding want a

Naomiwedd don't want a wedding don't want a marriage want a girl to cut off all of her hoes before the first date but you will not commit to her of course I'm

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)committing to her Brian how do you prove it how do you prove it how do you prove it but without a wedding how do you prove it what would I how do I prove prove what I mean that kind of saying

Brian Atlasthe marriage is kind of that symbol like the proof of commitment kind of that's what it is going get a promise ring Pro but what a promise okay so let's let's actually go back to religious wedding so what what are the uh the vows that are

Brian Atlastypically exchanged till death do us part what's the divorce rate in this country I think it's more than 50 so you you get

Brian Atlasup you do a we're part of five figure you do you two are divorced you do a five figure ceremony there there's a there's a head of the church there

Brian Atlaswhatever and you you exchange vowels in front of dozens or even hundreds of your closest friends and family you say I will be with you till death do us part

Brian Atlasand despite this commitment and despite the ceremony people still get divorced frequently frequently so you you talk of commitment where's the commitment and

Brian Atlaswomen overwhelmingly initiate divorces it's like 80% of women end divorces so it's interesting to me how can it possibly be actually I want to go around the table on

Brian Atlasthis here we'll go around the table on this more often than not of all the relationships that you've had and this can be anywhere from you've gone on a couple dates two you've been dating for

Brian Atlasyears to marry more often than not do you end the relationship or does the guy I've ended every single relationship you've ended every single relationship what about you I've also ended every single relationship how many

Brian Atlasrelationships have you been in three what about you three what about you yeah same the last one was like kind of mutual well state state your answer mostly me mostly you how many

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)relationships have you been in four or five what about you I've ended them all I think like five five relationships you've ended them all I've ended them all and I've only been in two two what

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)about you I think I've been in like five or six and only once has somebody else ended the relationship what about you I would say 75% me and I think I've been

Brian Atlasin eight or nine relationships uh I've been in four relationships and I've ended all of them and did all three whoa so hold on you got uh

Brian Atlasa typical complaint I hear from women is why are men so commitment phobic why are men scared of commitment why don't men want to get married well we've just I mean this is

Brian Atlasbecause they cheat but you guys are so pressed to get commitment from men noted at all hold on hold on hold on you guys want commitment so badly you want marriage so badly I don't want marriage

Brian Atlasokay hold on hold on hold on let me make my point it does seem to be would you agree though that typically it seems to be women who will like push men towards commitment like trying to get commitment

Brian Atlasfrom the man in my experience no okay in any case in any case I often hear complaints from women saying that men why are they scared of commitment they're commitment

Brian Atlasphobic why don't men want to commit all of you it's almost unanimous have ended all of your relationships once you get commitment

Naomiyou overwhelmingly end so who's really who's really commit who's the one how many girls have been all of you ended all of you end cheated on him that's why you ended the

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)relationship all of you ended your relationship because of Rel yeah but because of the like I feel like probably most of the women here have like ended those relationships

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)because that man probably did something lack of commitment like lack of commitment like she said like I ended both or one of mine because I was getting cheated on and then the only reason I ended the other one was just

Brian Atlasbecause we weren't like right for each other but yall talk about commitment like oh Brian you're just you don't want to get married find y be ending all of your relationship because they weren't

Brian Atlasworking out it has nothing to do Brian I have an answer why can't you commit and work through the problem I have an answer some problems aren't worth working someone who just came out of a relationship that I had okay that was fair that was just he was trying to get

Briyou back no no no no that's where he draws the line no I mean I give you a I mean my last relationship the seven-month one um I feel like and I'll speak for myself I don't want to speak for everyone but I

Brifeel like um I compromise my own boundaries uh for the sake of love and for the sake of you know this person so great it you know overshadows all the negative and I feel like um by not

Brihaving boundaries and by not upholding them you allow things in your life that later on hurt you and ultimately end up being the demise of the relationship to begin with sure so I feel like having

Bristandards and having boundaries and respecting yourself the most out of everyone in your life no one is going to respect you more than you respect you and what you allow to happen will continue to happen so I feel like for myself this is why I'm single and will

Bristay single for a while is I need to work on my self-respect because I require a lot I deserve a lot and I bring a lot to the table and I feel like um as women it's easy to let our

Naomiboundaries slip um for the sake of love did I make a point though Brian what what was the point well you said that men don't want to commit and like they they they don't and that's the reason

Naomiwhy we ultimately end up ending relationships or they're just abusive all of us like raise our hands right they they did something to make us initiate that why is it that we we should just so you're saying is your

Brian Atlasargument that in for all the girls here who answered when they in all the instances that they ended a relationship in every instance it was either

Brian Atlasinfidelity or abuse genuinely think do you genuinely think that that's the case for all instances when women end relationships no but I'm saying look at the numbers here how many girls are here

Naomiright now and we all raise our hands yeah about what that you got cheated on yeah and that's a reason why we ended a relationship it wasn't just like oh I'm sick of you that's justifiable I think girls are more loyal than guys not so

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)sure about that girls are what does commitment mean though like I don't think commitment means oh you stay together forever no matter what like I don't think that theultimate I mean until things are you shouldn't be together anymore I don't know I just

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)just because we've broken up with our boyfriends doesn't mean we don't want commitment we just want the person that we're with at that time to be committed to us and it goes back to self resect I said in the beginning that cheating is a

Naominon-negotiable for me so if that's something who is it a neg I mean who would wait I have a question Michael the last time I was on here Michael NS was on here and he said even if his wife cheated on him he would

Brian Atlasstay with her and I'm like he's though he's Catholic Al I don't know in infidelity you can can you I think even in the Catholic faith if there's abuse

Brian Atlasor something you can still get a divorce but I'm just saying like that's okay disposition what anyways hold on I got to move on I want to bring it back to what we were talking about though you're

Brian Atlasit all stemmed from me asking you about your witchcraft oh welcome back and somehow it got into marriage she was asking if you were religious cuz you got the cross on your you're wearing a cross yeah I said it was but then on your so

Brian Atlasyou have a cross earring here but on your other side there's a pentagram mhm isn't pentagram and then also has the astrology wheel right here okay but why wear the cross at all because you know

Briwhat the cross symbolizes and if you don't I do know what does it symbolize yeah of course Christianity no but no but more get more granular with it what do do you want to explain it for me yeah have no problem so the cross the cross

Briis a symbol um world wide uh to represent that Christ died on the cross was crucified on the cross and that is the only symbol

TTS Donation Readerfor what a cross stands for so I'm hold on Thomas the poet donated $1100 CHR the lack of accountability from the ladies on the panel is just astounding are you

Brisaying you played no role in the end of the relationship if you played no role then can you not choose good men what So to that to that question AB absolutely I it takes two to tango and I

Brifeel like I didn't show up in a relationship respecting myself and I allowed myself to be disrespected and that's my part in the relationship is

Brigoing into it not fully being the person I you you need to be the person you want to find a partner like the the the level

Briof respect the level of morals and values you you're talking to her right no I'm answering the question oh okay I see okay no I'm just saying so um the the question that up on the screen hold

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TTS Donation Reader777777777 donated $100 question for the ladies what decades did World War I and World War II occur bonus question question name one Allied Power and one access power from

Brian AtlasWorld War II okay we're going to start with you we'll go around the table on this question what was the question uh decades what decades did World War I and World War II occur and then there's the bonus question name one Allied Power and

Brian Atlasone access power from World War I go ahead I'm not educated enough for that here we're going to we're going to start we're going to start with the we're going to start with the decades starting with you I'm not educated enough to that

Brian Atlasanswer how about just guess I'm not I don't have to guess you don't want to guess pull your mic closer to you please no guess pull your mic closer don't pull yourself closer to the mic yes sir just take a guess engage with the conver with

Brian Atlasthe uh message 999999999 just no just you told her guess how about what century do you think World War I and

MariWorld War II occurred 100 no just answer okay you're not going to be bad faith answer the question I just I'm not educated enough for this like top IPC I don't want to give my response can you

Brian Atlasrespect that are you just going to say that for all the other questions though no no of course not well why don't you just engage in good faith with the question and just take a take a guess okay can I

Marihave like a Time range that I can guess from give her an ABC so yeah like ABC Jes so so there's there's I haven't took

Brian Atlasbefore Christ a there's BC a let say from like Z year zero to 2000 that's the the range

Marizero World War I World War II Oh World War II okay yeah yeah that one so AC um can I just say AC at this

Maripoint air conditioning yeah air conditioning yeah literally okay but just you're you're going to have to answer the question okay take a guess

Mariafter Christ and then centy

Marifourth 10th Century 369 Mafia do you want to just answer the question so I can move Century I don't no there's a

Brian Atlasdifference between giving a troll answer and making a good faith guess go ahead why does she have to stop just go

Brian Atlasahead you're burning a lot of time here can you kind of just make a guess but I told you I'm not educated clearly what about you thank you might sound really stupid

Brian Atlasbut early 1900s so okay what decades did World War I and World War II occur in the 1900s

Brian Atlaswell there's those are two separate Wars I know I'm saying okay early 1900s yeah decade give us a decade I don't know so

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)1910s 1920s 1930s 1940s 1950s uh I'm going to guess World War I was early 1920s maybe 19 20s to 30s World War I maybe 50s to 60s all right

Naomiwhat about you I'm not good at history I was a science major um 1930s for World War I 1940s for World

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)War II that's my final answer what about you yeah 1920s to 30s for World War I and then later for World War II well

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)what which just give just give um sure like 50s 60s 50 60s okay I would say

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)1930s 1940s for World War I and then 50 60s for two I don't know all right 1910s

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)to 1920s for World War I 1920s to 4 late 1920s to 40s for World War II okay what about you to be be

Katiehonest I have no idea I was a science major too I'm going to guess early or the 10 decade and the 40s okay uh 10

Bridecade 1917 for World War I um what is it 1934 I was literally 1934 or 1936 for

KiraWorld War II I was going to say 18 July 1914 to this is the Preble September

Natalie Winters1918 November uh 1939 sorry sorry sorry September 1 technically uh 1939 to September I think

Brian Atlas2nd 194 that's our history girl right there and can we name yes we do we are going to do the bonus question we'll we'll go around so this is for World War

Brian AtlasII this is for World War II don't read that this is for World War II name one Allied Power and one AIS power from

MariWorld War II go ahead I this I don't know how is this go sorry what did you say I I was reading the comment yeah I was literally God bro

Brian Atlasplease just try to pay attention you've been zoning out looking at the monitor the entire time for the rest of the show don't even look at the monitor look at me or look at who's talking okay

Mariokay World War II one Allied Power one access power go ahead I don't even know what that means one Ally power okay are you familiar at all with World War II I I haven't taken

Maria history class in like four years okay so one name a bad guy and name a good guy oh my God from World War from World War II I don't know why do you keep asking

Marime these questions that I don't know I keep telling you I'm not is your answer just you don't know yeah okay what about you one Allied Power one access power from World War II I I'm going to be honest I'm not going to s

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)too much of a genius I'm not totally sure on the definition of those so I don't know if I feel comfortable answering

TTS Donation Readerexactly okay sorry um Japan for which

TTS Donation Readerexactly they were against us the Bron donated repeal the 19th Amendment immediately the majority of these women make carded people look like they have

TTS Donation Readerstuff together goth Mong chick needs the boot Gustavo get the rocks what does Boost mean get the Rocks yeah Abdul

Brian Atlasyeah get the Rocks get the Rocks what I said Pearl Harbor there there that's not a power like that's not one of the powers that was Japan so okay

Brian Atlasone all I saying that's that was in my head one one Allied Power one access power from World War II okay what about you um we were against

Brian AtlasVietnam no oh boy oh do it tell me wait so World War II one Allied Power

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)one access power God I obviously do not know okay what about you I don't know either so I'm just not going to guess either I don't know how it's relevant the British for allies us to make us

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)look stupid why flame Russ Japan or yeah okay all right

Katiewhat about you um uh Midway Japan for Midway was an island in the Pacific but

Katieright but that was that Japan right that was part of har yes Japan access power y

BriMH um Allied Power uh the British okay what about you uh I would say The British is I'm just piggybacking off of

Briyou to be honest let's say The British uh are our our our our gosh say that five times fast are our

Natalie Wintersallies okay and then Japan do you want to give us three all I thought this was a dating show I how this is in Japan Italy Hitler Germany and then on the

Natalie Wintersother side of things you have the United States France not the vichi government you also have the Soviet Union technically China thank you for the I'm a St major to be fair lot

Mariof world war thank you for the crash course the United States Germany yeah but all the history haven't taken history in like I graduated high school in like but

Unknowndon't you like World War II the biggest conflict the history books are they really that accurate not a lot of us like whatever not not think understanding history matters I feel

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)like you guys 100% you know more about Kim Kardashian I think this shows that the school system here has failed us yeah it really let's blame the school system or the history books but what

Katieabout like self I can't remember like a lot like I'm on Wikipedia what other self knowled not a good spot for self knowledge first of all history is one I

Brian AtlasI want to keep it you know the the chatter sent it in I asked it but it's not

Unknownrelated to every single person at this table let's move forward n Wikipedia

Natalie Winterslike all right whatever go ahead yeah where is did you see it oh that Bri is easily the most beautiful woman you've had on you should all recognize who she

Natalie Wintersis beautiful who would date Brian matchmaking Brown ey who's Bri oh okay yeah hey Brian

Brian Atlashey oh my God all right if you want okay we'll go around the table he's asking if you would date date me go ahead no that's fine no I don't have any hoes so

NaomiI mean if you want to get dinner after thisy no yeah oh okay that's nice how old are you

Mari34 yeah too young I like the dad BS I would you I have a question Brian sorry no you're very cool

Brian Atlasoh all right there you go all right yeah um what was your question um if I were to say yes would you date me for my age wait what do you mean for your age yeah

Brian Atlaslike am I too young for you no okay interesting there's other considerations though I will say that um we have wait can you only date like male witches if

Natalie Wintersthat's a thing or she can date warlocks who do you date wait let me have you read this one love the panel tonight especially Naomi effing love her Brian

Natalie Wintersher body is just sick Naomi I totally Crush for you simp how do I make that happen she does she has visible ABS is this like one of your your homies I

Brian Atlasdon't know I hope so it's just a little are you sub to my only fans Thomas maybe what you're getting money from this all right thank you Thomas thank

Kirayou Thomas it's just a little a little simpish you know but all right thank you I like Sim I told you that last time uh can you read this one was seeing a Crystal's girl for a couple of months she said she never get married because

Natalie Wintersshe doesn't want government to have a say in her relationship she was a walking red flag but that throat was Primo oh man was I supposed to say she was the mouth That Got

Brian AtlasAway okay uh thank you clay um maybe she got away uh that's interesting all right and then we have a chat here from Stephen thank you marriage is a

Natalie Wintersspiritual union and Covenant before God marriage between a man and a woman is a direct reflection spelling error of Christ's love for the church all you

Natalie Wintersbrainwashed 304s resist the slave mind Trump 2024 # chist okay Stephen Carrera appreciate your Super Chat man thank you very much

Brian Atlasthank you thank you yeah uh okay where were we we're talking about you being a witch um you talking about got halfway around the table about something yeah we

Katiea I don't think so we were yeah I don't know what it was remember we went way off topic way past it I think you were talking about marriage yeah it was something to do with marriage I yeah we

Brian Atlaswere talking about oh the uh you're right the are you actually single was the conversation I was a little more curious just to wrap up the witch

Mariconversation um so you cast spells or what what exactly do you do um currently I'm not casting spells I'm just educating myself a little bit more

Brian Atlasbefore I have done like one or two spells but it was all about myself all about spiritual empowerment and stuff like that okay got it got it all right

Brian Atlasso we were going around the table when it comes to your relationship status so I think we we finished with you you

Brian Atlasclaimed proper single yeah I'm single you're proper wait but so hold on we'll get to you in a sec so last time you were on the show y you gave me quite a bit of pushback because I said that when

Brian Atlasfirst meeting a girl I would want her to be properly single and not like dating a bunch of other dudes even if she wasn't have sex with them I just wouldn't want a girl who's like dating a bunch of dudes certainly it's 100% a deal breaker

Brian Atlasif she's currently sexually involved with another guy even if it's casual even if it's casual for me 100% deal breaker goodbye back to the streets you go yet you are currently precisely in

Naomithat situation but so why why do you find it objectionable for me to essentially desire a woman who's in your position I mean it's not realistic to assume that every woman is in my

Naomiposition and like I I'm very untraditional clearly but I do want a traditional relationship make that make sense you're non-traditional but you want a traditional relationship so if I

Naomididn't tell you what I did for work I mean you would have no idea right what what's the context of being untraditional otherwise I feel like I'm

Brian AtlasIND there would be there would be other indicators what are the other indicators well I mean aside if you even if you didn't disclose um even if you did not disclose what you do for work for example I mean it could be something to

Brian Atlasdo with your appearance it could be uh your degree of modesty that sort of thing which could make it guide someone in determining whether they view you as a traditional woman or not do you think you haven't been able

Naomito attract a traditional man or traditional relationship because of why you do for work or why do you think you haven't been able to I'm not I'm not looking for a relationship right now so I'm not like even trying to and like any

Natalie Wintersman that's try but didn't you just say you do hypothetically down the road want a traditional relationship yeah down the road do you think you're deserving given your line of employment of a traditional relationship everybody is deserving of

Katielove I respect your well I think people can be accountable for their actions accountable for and aren't you a religious person don't you believe that God is the person who would ultimately be holding her accountable well I think

Natalie Wintersif you engage in a profession where you're constantly making men or whoever engage in sinful actions such as lust and frankly contributing to the decline of marriage in a lot of religious institutions and values in this country

Natalie Wintersthen I would say you're not necessarily an innocent bystander I agree God is the ultimate judge but from an anecdotal level of just your experience I think if you're engaged in an industry that isn't really doing anything to promote values

Natalie Wintersthat are good for a society or frankly for for women that I don't necessarily think that you deserve to be I'm saying you specifically but just people who engage in that deserve to be or not even

Natalie Wintersdeserve I just don't think you would really find a man who would bring to the table what you want because any traditional man is not going to put up with someone who has a past like yours I very much disagree so the last time I

Naomiwas on here I respect your opinion um Michael nolles right was on here the last time and we were going back and forth quite a bit and he even talked about a 10-year rager period where he

Naomiwent off the walls him and his wife now who he was a high school sweetheart with they broke up for 10 years he went on a bender he did ungodly things and then

Naominow he's back on his path I mean he's now traditional conservative has that traditional woman they have that traditional relationship

Natalie Wintersand so I just don't think like what I do now defines me yeah it's part of who I am and they have to accept that but well what he did though I think there there is a difference there right having like

Natalie Wintersa decade of fun versus having videos of yourself having sexual relations with other men on the internet there's a little bit of he didn't disclose what he did though I highly doubt Michael nlls

Natalie Winterswas filming porn we don't know you don't know that fairly confident to say that there's no pornograph but but still I think

Natalie Wintersrecorded to that point I think one of the issues with women who engage in I don't like the term sex work but if you want to call it that is that you take on

Natalie WintersI think a very masculine interpretation of sexuality in other words I think that Michael NES can probably or whoever it is a guy can get away with having 10 years of fun and it doesn't have as much

Natalie Wintersof a negative ramification on them whereas female sex sexuality it really makes it harder for you to I think pair bond with your mate down the road when you have sex with a lot of people or if

Natalie Wintersyou just view sex as sort of a commodify I don't have sex with a lot of people I have I think that's a very valid point I think it's a valid point I just well also too I think my my other issue even

Natalie Winterstaking the the sex stuff out of it like for example you know oh say if you had children or would someone who used to do only fans like make a good wife I think

Natalie Winterseven the fact that there's like I said explicit content of you on the internet I also think and again I mean this in a respectful way but I think it's it speaks to people's character and morality in the sense that again I'm

Natalie Winterssure you'll hit me with that you find doing only fans really empowering and we can have that discussion but I think it sort of shows that people prioritize short-term gain for short uh for just short-term profit like it's immediate

Natalie Wintersgratification cuz again I don't buy into the narrative that if you join only fans you just start making six figures a month on average you make $180 a month and only fans loves that that myth is perpetuated but putting that aside I

Natalie Wintersjust think that it speaks to a woman's character that they they would do that and I think that that speaking of commitment to me would make it think that someone who does only fans and is so willing and eager to sell their body for male validation or for what probably

Natalie Wintershave a higher propensity to cheat and frankly I don't know if they would make from a just looking at it objectively from a mating perspective necessarily a great mom because I think that like I said it's putting short-term

Natalie Wintersgratification for money for whatever lifestyle you want and not looking down down the road I don't know if you want to have kids but I do yeah and I don't think it's going to affect my children and my unborn how can how can you say

Naomithat though I mean it's a profession regard I worked in corporate before I did only fans I did both at the same time so like at first it was a secret I kept it a very big secret from everything and then so if you had to

Naomikeep it a secret though was that because it was bad because I didn't want to get fired so why would they have fired you though because that's just how it is I still think I I mean it's my body so I

Brican so my question to you girls that do only fans and stuff like that um what's your exit plan um I had a question so now my brain is

Mariscattering sorry um my exit plan out of all of this just specifically getting out of sex work um I want to throw my own events I'm an event management major

Briwhile I'm work on working on there but do you have like a timeline or like a like a goal like like I make x amount of money now I can retire or I have two

Natalie Wintersyears and I'm done now yes yeah are you guys going to pull the like Nala card and be like oh I forgive myself for what I did I'm repenting I'm like a new she

Maristill has her only fans though wait no but um about the question you guys are both Christian right yeah I am okay so I had not super religious actually I had

MariChristians knock on my door the other day maybe it's a sign um but they were just explaining to me like your guys's beliefs and everything so I was asking them about like okay so he died for a

Marisin so they told me that means we came to this life already as Sinners so we can do whatever we want as long as we believe in Jesus Christ's

Mariquestion mark and God cuz that's how they made it seem cuz I was like I don't want to say the r word the r word but I was like so if I rward someone I'm still

Brigoing to heaven mhm so the reason why we have Free Will and the reason why there's so much death and destruction and evilness in this world which is very unfortunate is because we

Brihave free will and God wouldn't be a loving and gracious father if he made us love him so the Free Will is by choice to we get to choose to love him or we

Briget to choose not to um that's why there's death death and destruction and chaos but when it comes to intentionally making bad decisions you can live your entire life and make intentionally

Brireally really bad decisions but the turning point in in Christianity specifically is acknowledging that you're you've made faults acknowledging that you've hurt people acknowledging

Natalie Wintersyour sins and turning from it but yeah and then so of course like praising and like being religious my opposition though to what you guys do is not really actually derived necess neily from

Natalie Wintersreligious stuff I think it's more that what you guys are doing is part of a myriad of ways that whether it's big corporations Elites in this country

Natalie Winterspowerful globalist organizations want to destroy the nuclear family want to destroy traditional gender rules want to frankly destroy traditional relationships so I'm not couching it in like religious speak I think you look at

Marilife more as a physical material matter way I do yeah because like you believe in heaven and everything right like you go to heaven yeah see I believe in

Marireincarnation so my body right now this body isn't going to come with me to the next life so whether I'm making money however the you guys care about it doesn't matter in my opinion cuz but

Natalie Winterssorry to interrup but I'm not even talking just about you I'm talking about the other people's lives that you're impacting not not you specifically but with the work that only fans creates like do you think only fans is a net

Naomipositive on society um I think it's an inevitable part of men watch porn regardless so I think if they're going to watch free porn they might as well

Natalie Winterswatch but like everything happens for a reason what I have to say if no offense if if I ask you if what you do is good for society and within one second your comeback is well it's just going to

Naomihappen that's not really a great argument for why it's good that's just sort of like a neutral wash right I mean so what's the difference between mainstream porn and only fans to you in

Natalie Wintersyour eyes anything um I have never consumed only fans content or explicit content I don't believe that you scared of it um I am scared of what you guys are doing to your your bodies your souls and the men who watch your content so

Natalie Wintersyes I would say I am scared I ask why you're scared of it like are you is there anything in your childhood that like no um I actually have wonderful parents who raised me and I think that's precisely why I'm scared of it are you

TTS Donation Readerhave you been cheated on a lot like cuz usually people who are like scared of like girls like that Doc venil is donated $100 female promiscuity is a firm

TTS Donation Readerindicator of cluster B personality disorder a cluster B woman will not make a good partner or a good mother by extension no healthy man will want to marry your

Natalie WintersF I don't think the reason that thank you doc appr opposed to only fans is because I think that that's why men have have cheated on me if that's what you're saying no yeah I was just trying to pick

Natalie Wintersyour brain a little bit but um yeah no cuz I like to see the root of why people are this way um but is your reason why you Jo only fans like oh well someone's they're going to consume the content

Natalie Wintersanyways I can't make a change so I may as well do it that's not mine not so much why do you guys do it then I like genuinely enjoy it to be so

Naomiand like your point of like you were raised by good parents like I totally respect that and like that's your view point on like why you don't enjoy porn but like I was raised by really good parents also and I come from a good family that's true and they have good

Naomimorals at the end of the day do they approve of what you do for work open support me they are very open-minded yeah so my question to you ladies is if

Briyou genuinely think that what you do contributes positively to society um if let's just say that what you're doing you're running a business right if you had to create a mission statement can

Briyou give me some character traits of what your business consists of would it be would it be honesty respect loyalty of course give me give me some characteristics of the business that you

Brirun um loyalty um like you said respect commitment but don't just pair it off of what I'm saying okay I'm TR no no because I'm I'm genuinely trying to understand because commitment because

Brihow can you tell if a man or woman is single how can you tell if you're not talking to someone that is already taken how can you tell but you can't that's the companionship though I would say

Naomicompanionship I'm very honest with me like I don't have Chatters so it is me speaking like I send you guys ever talk to them the one-on-one mhm yeah and don't don't you think it's better to profit off of a man who's cheating on

Maritheir wife no I don't think I think you're enabling what interesting I don't feel that way I just I'm I I I get it

Maribut like we all obviously have different views like spiritually religiously and I just yes but I think what you guys do you you play the like L Fair like oh

Natalie WintersI'm just doing this cuz it's fun and empowering but it has a really really negative effect on society and I'm just wondering if you you saying I agree because porn addiction is a very big thing so I don't believe in porn

Naomiaddiction what do you you don't believe in porn addiction it has I mean yeah it hasn't scientifically been proven as a thing gambling has but porn hasn't um I think porn addiction is yeah

Natalie Wintersknow even Billy Alish made a song about it well we can pull it but I just you want like do you really want to be sitting there defending being like porn addiction isn't a thing sing pictures of

Naomimy body on all you want but it hasn't been proven by science so you think that I me got to trust the studies I mean is religion proven by science question I am

Natalie Wintersnot some like I'm just playing I'm just playing Devil's Advocate I rooted my arguments in anything religious no you're good you're good I was just questioning I that's not what I but I

Natalie Wintersjust I think you guys like I said I said can you point to one positive thing that what only F that only fans does for society compion I can I can chime in I

Katiedon't I don't do only fans but I can say I grew up when the internet was just getting started and I think for many

Katiegirls young girls they can learn about themselves learn about their bodies I think that's disgusting especially when you see how they've been pushing content on young girls why do you think it's disgusting that means you're looking at

Katiethem sexually that's kind of weird not all only fans porn showing no I didn't say porn I didn't say porn inherently not all only fans is completely explicit

Brian Atlassome I don't think are you saying that young young girls are going to O to get sexual health

Katieeducation what that's absurd that's not some might some or some might grow up in such a religious home that they're

Natalie Wintersafraid to explore themselves precisely my point and that only fans creates a pathway and a pipeline to normalizing commodifying your body and viewing sex

Natalie Wintersthrough a very weird very parasocial lens that if that platform didn't exist those people would not have access to the platform now I'm sure all you sexually liberated however you want to euphemize it women would say oh that's so great that young women can sit there

Natalie Wintersand when they're cuz they're evil Christian parents they're like don't have premarital sex oh well they that's that's precisely the problem so let me

Katieask you question how did you learn about sex um I had sex out in my class or my school that nothing is an internet basically a a huge conglomerate of sex

Natalie Wintersed and all of the different avenues that one could educate them themselves I'm not critiquing learning about sex my critique is very specific to only fans in the context of what she said which is

Natalie Wintersthat only fans the the uh one liner on why the elevator pitch for only fans is that is quote great for commitment and I think that that is abjectly false not companionship people like to spend their

Natalie Winterstime with me I don't I'm not always naked on there I think I think that's a sort of a a siren song I think it's a a false flag in the sense that you're perpetuating this like lie this frankly delusion in these guys heads that

Natalie Wintersthey're in a relationship with you you're privately chatting with them right you're giving them the girlfriend experience that's the distinguishing factor between only fans and porn but you're not ever actually giving them a meaningful relationship you're just sort

Natalie Wintersof stringing along the guy into thinking that they could potentially have something with you and frankly that's probably why you sit there and say you aren't seeing anyone because that's a real critical part maybe that's better

Naomifor him than nothing he'll let me bring up a point what about twitch so a girl that's streaming on Twitch she's not naked and she's getting donations for hanging out with people then what are

Naomiyour thoughts on that simps yeah I mean that but so how is that different if I'm not naked only on my life I mean people who watch my show they're not watching me because they're lonely they're

Natalie Winterswatching CU they want to watch political content no actually I'm really good investigative sure you're very SM they don't watch and I been very careful to not have my job because of the way I look but frankly what you just said right there I think is a perfect

Natalie Wintersreflection of the only fans mindset I know you were half kidding when you said that but that shows you that you've commodified me into the reason that I have my job is because of how I look have because I'm actually extremely well and I'm a very good investigative reporter but from the only F mindset you

Natalie Winterswould only think that I have my job because of the way I look because that's all your Valu for I'm not I didn't say that about also I want to flip that you're looking at us like that well cuz you guys are doing that to yourself I wasn't doing it to you well I'm going to

Natalie Winterslook at you guys as people who Comm modify and and exploit your bodies do so you find out that we we have only fans you're just like I think it speaks to your character I do it don't you I mean

Natalie WintersI'm just like you probably think me working for Steve Bannon who I don't know your politics you think that speaks to my character I think what you choose your professionally speaks speaks to your character right that's not a judgmental I mean I guess it's judgmental definitionally but that's not

Natalie Wintersa judgmental with a pejorative connotation I'm just holding you guys accountable for your actions just like if you guys don't like Trump I'm sure you would hold me accountable for working for arguably the most magga most prot Trump podcast in the the media EOS

Natalie Wintersmedia ecosystem right yeah so I'm holding you guys accountable for for what you do too I just think what you do is considerably considerably worse um for the country for society r at large and I don't think you guys have really

TTS Donation Readergiven me one actual reason as to why it's good talk um Society well societ society's Christ his Lord donated

TTS Donation Reader$100 thank you listen to me very carefully there is a reason why for all of human history for thousands of years prostitution and selling yourself has

Marimostly been viewed as shame F Society is unraveling you say Society is huge but not with declining birth rates I just think you're too attached to physical

Mariand material items and I think you need to like touch grass and meditate touch wait she just a i' I got to come in on this because you're just too attached to only fans girls what is the you said

Marithat she's you said Natalie is too attached to physical and material yeah because when you think about it at all the access your job is physical and material mine is intellectual and

Mariemotional I know it is you sell your body I've never sold anything physical I believe that my soul is going to reincarnate to the next life so you reincarnate into duck like yes and my

Mariphysical got is not coming with me to the next life that's physical body not coming with you my body no just my soul word mhm I like respect all your points

Natalie Wintersyou're making I Just Disagree and you disagree with me I disagree with that's why we're here yeah but I just I still don't think you guys have given like any defense of why only need to defend themselves I do

Natalie Wintersthink I you can use whatever word you want instead of defend but I do like I can say what I do for work I'm very proud to wake up every day and have the job I do I think it's a net positive for society can you guys say that I mean for

Naomimy subscribers yeah it impact their life in a positive way wait just curious how yeah I already said companionship and I'm not selling false girlfriend it's

Naomithe same comp wait I thought you were single oh so you are you're you're dating multip men that would be yeah that would be too much it's not you are dating

Naomiselling experience but I compared it to Twitch already wait so but you said you're companionship romantic companionship no like I am companionship to my Subs

Naomiromantically no so what did they're not romantically interested in you well oh they're romantically but you're not in them well I'm not dating any of them what is that like but then how is it

Briit's but it's it's not actual companionship like you romantic companionship it doesn't have to be romantic to be companionship but I my my question I'm posing to you now is do you think all you're good for is

Bricompanionship because that's all that you've said in terms of quality that you bring to society do you actually no I'm not coming for you what's one positive thing I think

Natalie Wintersyou sell yourself when you do only I mean okay so before I did this I was in tech so what did that do for society that was more than what you're doing now respectfully we could definitely have a debate should if a woman's going to

Natalie Wintersschool should they become like a mainstream media journalist or an only fans Creator which is worse but um I I don't know I just think you you're basically profiting off of like the lowest common denominator of which is

Natalie Wintersyour your your body and the fact that you have boobs in a vagina that everyone you on this platform has barely did you say barely yeah oh okay cuz I just think

Brian Atlasit's sort of like you know they guys there's guys who smaller bre Grace War Room donated $100 Natalie's wifey material let's do it yo Grace very much appreciate your

Brian AtlasTTS appreciate it let me try to shift things here a little bit wait Naomi you said you were involved in Tech sales it's in your notes you said you're the ex director of sales op mhm and then you

Brian Atlasalso said you're an ex D1 cheerleader mhm University of Arizona yep as or ASU no not the ASU okay were you a flyer

Brian Atlasyeah we were all Flyers you how tall are you 5'6 Little Tall to be a flyer no offense how do I even know what that is okay uh can you show let let's lighten

Brian Atlasthings up a little bit na me why don't you show us a cheer a cheer a cheer you got it for you got James Palmer donated

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