She DIVORCED Him For BAD $3X?! Dating A FEEDER?! Husband CHEATED With Men?! | Dating Talk #147

Date: 2024-03-27

Duration: 7h 42m

Guests

Brian Atlas

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TTaylor (DT147)>

JJamill (DT147)>

KKatie (DT147)>

NNatalie Winters >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Naomi(guest)

SPEAKER_06Mari(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Jamill (+ Kira bleed)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Bri(guest)

SPEAKER_12Katie(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kira(guest)

SPEAKER_14Natalie Winters(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions round. Nine guests introduce themselves. Notable: Natalie Winters (War Room co-host, returning), Naomi (OnlyFans, returning ~1 month), Jamill (39yo RN, divorced after 18yr marriage). Show title references three key stories: bad sex divorce, feeder fetish, husband cheating with men.

“"we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location"”

Key MomentJamill reveals her 18-year marriage ended after husband disclosed Craigslist affairs with men and desire to swing with both men and women. She refused and initiated divorce ~2 years ago. Led to extended dead bedroom. Has 2 kids. Now in a 1-month FWB. This is the "Husband CHEATED With Men" title reference.

“"one of the first things being that he started seeing some people some guys from Craigslist"”

Key MomentBri reveals her 5-year ex had a secret feeder/weight-gain fetish. Discovered 400+ messages on his drunk phone at a friend's wedding showing him telling overweight women to gain weight and monitoring their food intake. He had been taking Bri to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week. This is the "Dating A FEEDER" title reference.

“"it was like a feeding fetish chubby chaser it wasn't even just chubby chasing feeder"”

QuoteBri describes discovering her feeder ex had been taking her to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week during COVID as part of his feeding behavior. "I thought going out to all you can eat sushi multiple times a week was normal — it's not."

“"going out to all you can eat sushi multiple times a week was normal it's not"”

ControversyNatalie Winters (War Room co-host) debates OnlyFans creators Naomi and Mari on ethics and societal impact of sex work. Argues it destroys nuclear family, is anti-intellectual, and predatory on lonely men. Naomi/Mari defend with companionship and autonomy arguments. Extended debate touches on Christianity, porn addiction, feminist theory.

“"I just think what you guys do is considerably considerably worse for the country for society"”

QuoteMari defends OnlyFans using reincarnation theology: her physical body will not carry to the next life so her current physical choices are irrelevant from a spiritual standpoint.

“"I believe in reincarnation so my body right now this body isn't going to come with me to the next life"”

QuoteNatalie Winters reveals she has been sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party for investigative reporting and has been cited by Congress.

“"I'm sanctioned by the Chinese Communist party because of my investigative reporting I'm cited by Congress"”

OtherSelf-ratings round. Most women rate themselves 10. Mari: 10 (mood-dependent). Emmy: 10. Naomi: 10. Katie: 6. Bri: 8. Brian: 5. Brian declines to validate the 10 self-ratings. Viewer TTS donor assigns ratings by clothing description.

“"ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you"”

ControversyMari suggests men who prefer virgins are "predatory" (pedo-adjacent). Unable to defend argument when Brian challenges with 25-year-old virgin scenario. Says it "just gives the ick." Cannot name 10 books supporting her witchcraft beliefs. Calls Christianity a cult based on a missionary's explanation of grace. Double standard noted: will not make same claim about Islam.

“"it just gives you the ick potentially pword potentially"”

QuoteBody count round: Naomi states body count is "less than 20" and declines exact number. Mari states 5, Brian applies ×3 rule of thumb. Jamill's count of 29 referenced in group.

“"uh five five mhm I'm 22 years old multiply by three and that's the real number"”

QuoteKatie argues people can grow beyond a high body count or promiscuous past. "There's always a lid to every pot" — even someone with an egregious past can find someone who accepts them for who they are now.

“"there's always a lid to every pot so even if you do egregious things when you're younger"”

OtherEnd of show. Brian wraps up around 7:42 AM (running very late). Raids Twitch streamer. Crew signs off.

“"it is quite literally past my bedtime"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status

Nine guests introduce themselves: Mari (22, Orlando, event promoter/OnlyFans), Emmy (22, Bay Area, UCSB sociology), Naomi (26, Phoenix, OnlyFans, returning), Taylor (25, Bay Area, RBT), Kira (24, Bay Area, SBCC comm), Jamill (39, RN/standup comedian, divorced 18yr marriage), Katie (41, OC, optical, single 7yr), Bri (26, Santa Clarita, public health student), Natalie Winters (23, Palm Beach, War Room co-host, returning). Relationship status round: three guests are returning (Naomi, Natalie Winters, and Kira per context). Notable: Jamill recently divorced after husband revealed interest in men and swinging.

Jamill: husband cheated with men / divorce story

Jamill (SPEAKER_10) describes her 18-year marriage ending: husband confessed around year 14-15 that he had been seeing men from Craigslist, then disclosed he wanted to swing with other men and women. She refused and initiated divorce ~2 years ago. Preceded by an extended dead bedroom. She was married 2005. Two kids.

Bri: ex-boyfriend feeder fetish story

Bri (SPEAKER_11) reveals her 5-year ex-boyfriend had a secret feeder/weight-gain fetish. Discovered 400+ messages on his drunk phone at a friend's wedding. Messages showed him monitoring women's food intake pre/post meals, telling them they weren't worthy unless they gained. He had taken Bri to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week. She had gained weight during COVID; he encouraged it. After breakup: had brief revenge sex with 2 men.

OnlyFans debate: ethics, value, and societal impact

Extended debate between Natalie Winters (SPEAKER_14, anti-OnlyFans), Naomi (SPEAKER_03, does OnlyFans), and Mari (SPEAKER_06, does OnlyFans). Natalie argues OnlyFans normalizes commodification of women's bodies and destroys nuclear family. Naomi and Mari argue it provides companionship, is no different from Twitch, and is her choice. Religion debate embedded: Bri (SPEAKER_11, Christian) engages Natalie on Christianity vs. Mari's reincarnation/spiritual worldview. Natalie's credentials: War Room co-host, sanctioned by CCP, cited by Congress. Naomi defends: she was in corporate tech before, does OnlyFans by choice, parents are supportive. Porn addiction debate: Naomi disputes it's scientifically proven; Brian cites Adams et al. 1999.

Christianity vs. OnlyFans / religion and sexuality debate

Embedded in OnlyFans debate: Mari and Naomi defend their work using reincarnation and "it's going to happen anyway" arguments. Bri and Natalie push back from Christian perspective. Mari: "I believe in reincarnation — this body doesn't come with me to the next life." Bri: discusses exit plan from sex work and Christian accountability. Natalie: argues promiscuity has more societal cost for women than men (pair bonding argument). Reference to Michael Knowles's 10-year partying period vs. now being traditional.

Relationship status and single panel details

Brian goes around table examining single women's dating situations. Taylor: 3 years single, 8-month situationship; hookups that didn't become relationships. Kira: 1 year single, not looking (moving). Mari: 1.5-2 years single. Emmy: 6-7 months, not looking (moving). Jamill: FWB 1 month, most serious since divorce. Naomi: 2+ years single. Katie: single 7 years, briefly dated in summer. Bri: just out of 5-year relationship (a few weeks). Natalie: has a man "a little in the picture."

Roster / dating multiple people simultaneously

Brian asks who has dated or slept with multiple people simultaneously. Bri (SPEAKER_11): yes, 2 men after 5-year breakup (revenge sex). Someone (likely Taylor/Emmy, SPEAKER_02): 3-4 people casually in past. Others: mixed; most say no roster or just casual overlap. Mari: relationship girl; doesn't maintain a roster. Natalie: "never had a roster."

Partner preferences round

Brian asks each guest desired partner income and number of kids. Mari: min $50k; 3 kids. Emmy: just financially stable; ~2 kids (unsure). Naomi: depends on lifestyle; 3-5 kids. Taylor: stable; 2 kids max. Kira: not specified clearly. Jamill: enough for kids to live comfortably. Katie: at least $75-80k; one child (done; IUD). Bri: stability; stay-at-home mom early on; 2 kids. Natalie: more than her father (infectious disease doctor); 2-3+ kids (above replacement). Brian: would marry if she's rich and has large labia (joke/tangent).

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Viewer (Stiffler) asks panel to rate looks 1-10. Order (going around table): Mari: 10 (mood-dependent; sometimes 1). Emmy: 10. Naomi: 10. Someone (Taylor or Kira): 7. Someone: 6. Someone (Jamill): 7 approx. Katie: 6. Bri: 8. Natalie: did not explicitly state (donor rated her ~6.8). Brian: 5. Brian declines to assign ratings to guests ("you guys are not tens — no offense"). Donor TTS: "natal 6.8 Raven hair 7 used baggage 3 mamas San 2 obes blond 2 bimbo 4 a cup bimbo 3 deep voice C four goth thard."

League theory / men sleeping outside their league

Brian explains theory: women get rejected on the back end, men on the front end. Men will sleep with women below their league but not commit; this creates situationships when women overestimate their league. "Your league is who you can get commitment from, not who you can sleep with." Debate over whether women who self-rate high are delusional. Extended discussion with Emmy (SPEAKER_02) who says rating is subjective/pointless. "Will you be more attractive in 10-20 years?" round: Most guests say yes; Brian calls it delusional for those over 22. Exception: Bri (26) says no, youthfulness peaks earlier.

Would you date a World of Warcraft player

Brian asks if guests would date a WoW player (7-14 hrs/day). Emmy: 7 hours is a lot but if he's making money streaming, ok. Bri: no (it's too much time). Mari: if he's a Twitch streamer making money, maybe. Katie: her ex/baby daddy played Dungeons & Dragons. Brian discusses Season of Discovery Phase 3, raid composition, guild leader responsibilities, split-raiding for loot. Twitch raid from "Stay Safe" mid-show.

Plastic surgery / cosmetic procedures debate

Brian reconfirms natural body supremacist position. Prefers: flat chest over implants, natural labia over labiaplasty, natural lips over filler, natural belly over lipo, natural ass over BBL. Naomi reveals she got a labiaplasty during her year of celibacy (2022). Brian: "that's a dagger to my heart." Katie: former esthetician; left beauty industry over values conflicts. Discussion of who is to blame for unrealistic beauty standards: majority say "a little bit of both" (men and women). Brian: biological male preferences (large butts, big breasts) drive some of it, but not blame per se. Natalie: cosmetics companies and social media are primary drivers.

Abortion debate

Brief abortion discussion triggered by chat TTS. Emmy (SPEAKER_02): abortion acceptable for emergency situations; not a simple issue. Bri (SPEAKER_11): values life; stricter position. Brian: returns to topic briefly then moves on.

Who should pay on dates

Brian asks who should pay on a first date. Mari and Naomi: whoever asks should pay. Emmy: man should pay to show he's courting. Bri: traditional — man should pay. Katie: split down the middle (first couple dates); once in relationship, alternating. Natalie: man pays as provider expression. Brian: suboptimal to pay for women who made prior men wait but now won't make you wait.

Last name debate: would you take husband's name

Brian asks if women would take husband's last name. Most say yes or probably yes. Bri: yes (traditional). Natalie: yes. Mari: probably yes but depends on last name. Katie and others: probably/open to it.

Virgin preference / "pedo" debate

Mari (SPEAKER_06) suggests men who prefer virgin women may be "predatory" (pedo adjacent). Brian challenges: is a 25-year-old virgin woman's male admirer a pedo? Mari cannot explain her argument; says it "gives the ick." Brian: are Christian and Muslim men who prefer virgins PWs? Mari says yes for Christians, avoids comment on Muslims. Bri (SPEAKER_11) and Natalie (SPEAKER_14) push back as Christians. Mari calls Christianity a "cult" due to her interpretation of grace/salvation doctrine. Bri explains Christian theology on free will and grace. Brian notes double standard: Mari criticizes Christianity but not Islam.

Body count round

Brian asks guests for body counts. Mari (SPEAKER_06): 5 (Brian applied ×3 skepticism). Naomi (SPEAKER_03): declined ("less than 20"). Group count round: "Angel nine, 29" called out — Jamill stated 29. Bri (SPEAKER_11): less than 10 (only within relationships). Natalie Winters (SPEAKER_14): declined to disclose. Brian: declined ("personal rule not to disclose"). Extended debate: does body count define a person? Katie (SPEAKER_12): disagrees — people can change and grow. Natalie: there is a meaningful difference between men's and women's promiscuity impacts.

Transcript

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Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)grilled build on feminism are you sure I never said I was a I never said I was a feminist I wasn't getting ruled okay well no I know but your friends were that's fine you could save

Naomithem you don't want you don't want to talk about feminism you don't want to take about sexual positions okay what about you missionary because what the I like eye contact girl I was going

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)to say that agree same I also agree missionary there's other okay anyways what about you both disagreed you miss it all huh I may have to agree with that

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)you disagree I also said what she said and then she said she said what I we all agree missionary you guys are missionary okay I like being spooned oh that's a

Katiegood one okay what about you same same I like missionary cuz I like eye contact oh okay I just prefer not to say

Brian Atlasokay pass she going to pass you sure you guys want okay all right going pass okay uh I'll say my favorite

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Brian Atlasyes are are you envisioning it I'm going to leave my mind there's other considerations okay all right um I kind of like to do the work though like girl on top of that

Brian Atlaswould do the work you can do the yeah you can do the work relax bro relax I'm not saying calm down bro last show wait what what go

Brian Atlasahead what what are you going to say nothing okay thank you Naomi that was great um uh we have e the prophet Q for Brian do you consider yourself modern traditional or somewhere in the middle

Brian Atlasif in the middle would you consider changing the Q on your form for the girls to sliding scale instead of binary okay yeah so on the girls messages message us requesting to be on the show

Brian Atlaswe ask if they're feminist or traditional um sure I guess I could change it as far as what I con myself

Brian AtlasI'm somewhere in the middle I'm not staunchly traditional but I also am not totally 100% dgen so I'd say I'm somewhat in the

Brian Atlasmiddle um Bender the offender ladies who's to blame for the unrealistic beauty standards for women women for women women conforming let's start

Brian Atlasactually we can start with no let's start over here we'll go around okay sorry influencers and celebrities your thoughts who's to blame is it is it men is it the patriarchy oh

Brian Atlasand social media sorry are men to blame is the patriarchy to blame who's to blame women oh I think a little bit of both huh yeah I agree with everyone is

Katieto blame everyone all right including us everyone's to blame what are your thoughts I would say a little bit of both your thoughts a little bit of both a little bit of both okay I think Photoshop and filters

Katieand the exaggerated of everything on social media nobody looks like how they actually look in real life and I think it it gives this false representation

Katiefor especially young girls on what they should look like versus what people actually look like she's right I come from the beauty industry I'm a licens esthetician I was in the beauty industry

Katiefor 10 years and one of the main reasons why I got out of it was just because my ideals and my values no longer aligned with the beauty

Briindustry okay especially after having my daughter your thoughts I think women are to blame for adhering to the mail gaze it's all your fault oh my God ditto and

Brian Atlascosmetics companies W yeah I don't know uh I mean I think there's certain biological things like I don't think we can deny that generally speaking men

Brian Atlaslike women with large butts and big boobs generally so women could be sort of like

Brian Atlasfor example with like bbls and breast implants women could be trying to achieve that sort of ideal body that men find attractive but I don't know if it's

Brian Atlasmen to blame for that necessarily and also as a natural body supremacist I have a strong preference for no plastic surgery I give me okay oh

TTS Donation Readerokay all right Scott donated $100 these modern day women have more rights than ever before and taking the life of the innocent is how they choose to act upon this privilege is absolutely

Brian Atlasdisgusting Big W to the two ladies next to Brian thank you Scott for your TTS I very much appreciate your message and um let me just finish my point though on

Brian Atlasthis so I would when it comes to plastic surgery I'd prefer a girl with an AUP even even flat over fake tits I'll

Brian Atlasprefer L belly over lipo small ass over BBL small upper lip over lip

Brian Atlasfillers and a giant labia instead of labia plasty which you got which is like the most just dagger in the heart O My Heart's over there Soul crushing I sound

Naomilike I fit that description so everything I was like I was like it sounds like he's describing me like they literally called me out for like a cup bimbo wait why did

Brian Atlasyou laugh no you like looked down at your I been I just put on my sweater oh okay okay I don't know why you okay does anyone here have plastic

Brian Atlassurgery no well you have the what do you have labioplasty yep anything else lips no just my lips and Botox tonsils oh not exactly plastic

Brian Atlas[Music] surgery got you plastic surgery plastic surgery plastic surgery plastic surgery lip filler lip filler is not plastic surgery but I do have lip filler

BriI want it to be a plastic surgeon plastic surgery is going under the knife aesthe it's anesthesia is it under the perview of cosmetic surgery but it's

Brian Atlasnotg procedure cosmetic procedure procedure yeah well is it's a any procedures then it's an injection yes Li pillar that's itly

Brian Atlasno okay yeah yeah see I'm a feminist in that regard I'm a feminist I'm so against

Mariplastic surgery cosmetic procedures I you feel me yeah mostly well I'm just against

Mariour the US's hospital and stuff I like Western medicine more because the US likes to like treat symptoms what do you mean Eastern

Marimedicine I mean sorry yeah the US treats symptoms in Western D stop it get some help thank you I need it um yeah my

Brian Atlaspoint exact oh stay safe I don't know if you're still in the chat but He's a brave and a decent man he's a Pioneer thank you stay safe appreciate the r okay uh yeah I think we should ban

Katieplastic surgery how about that yes is that a radical position yeah that's that's a little wild I don't know about B I think we would have less 12-year-olds looking like 18yar olds yeah I don't know if I mean if I never

Naomitold you I got a labioplasty there's no way any of you would know it's a thing for like myself that I got while I was celibate I would know how would you know I would

Brian Atlasknow I just would know I don't know how I would know but I would know I would know is that a dare Brian wait what

Brian Atlasno no no now I'll say this if you're dating a guy and he's pressuring you to get that's a red major red flag for the ladies I would strongly

Brian Atlasadvise should probably break up with him mhm if you got AC cups and he's like babe let me buy you some titties how would you well I'm curious how would you

Brian Atlasreact bu would you would you be like or would you be like you find a that you want what about you if your boyfriend I'll take some titties oh

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)no don't do it I'm not advocating for them I'm happy with myself but I'll take some titties you you'll take titties I'll take some titties if the titties are free you'll take the titties if the titties are free I'm taking the titties

Naomishe takes free titties I I would as well but like not because he's recking I'm I'm disappointed I'm not mad I'm just disappointed like I do want titties but

Naomiit's not because anyone's like asking me to who are pressuring me to I just want them so if my boyfriend was like I think you should get boobs I'd be like the

Brian Atlasbut if I'm like I want boobs can you pay for them I think that's F okay what about you I don't really get the question like would I take the like if a guy wanted to get you and it could be like if a guy wanted to change something

Brian Atlasabout change like he wanted to get you a BBL or Li filler or something like it'd be kind of weird right yeah I would also probably say no it's almost like oh sorry go ahead oh that's a hell no for

Katieme yeah it's like that that guy who waves the big red flag running around yeah immediate red flag yeah no uh no can I make a prediction though sure okay

Natalie WintersI think that they have gone out of their way to normalize men being feminine in a host of ways particularly like wearing dresses and wearing skirts I think in the near future you are going to start

Natalie Wintersseeing the normalization of plastic surgery for men and not not like in the way that some men get it but I think like lip fillers

Katieand it's more common in in in back in East especially I think it's going to be think about it Sephora you go to Sephora and you just see like dudes

Katieeverywhere and that on the walls I think it's already a thing it's just more subtle it's like definitely a thing already that men get things done it's it's very popular in Asia men wearing

Naomimakeup base concealer well that's their culture you know failed failed Society but that's their culture you say makeup in general though it's not just like for

Natalie Wintersthat specifically you hate when women wear makeup Journey life uh can you read this one some of you said you seek a traditional man that will pay give an allowance Etc so I'm puzzled I'm not religious at all but the three that

Natalie Wintersagreed to wait elevated your attractiveness to 20 forget looks I'll stick with you for life good values for kids do I have to convert so what to Christianity is that

Brian Atlaswhat he's talking about um wait uh who here wants like a traditional Dynamic with a guy show up hands on this what you say traditional

Brian Atlastraditional Dynamic he pays for dates and that's it that's like too I

Brian Atlasmean those sound good sound good I don't know the car door be nice well you can be nice and not traditional I suppose I know so that's how I

Brian Atlasfeel wait so who should how about this who should pay on the who do you think should pay on the first dat starting with you your my answer is going to be

Maristupid you could just answer the question just say the stupid thing okay and then we'll move on I think both of us could pay we could go half and half I don't think that's stupid thank you for

Naomiwhoever initiates the date should pay whoever initiates the date should pay okay um I think that can be the case once you're in a relationship but I think on the first date a male should

Naomipay M um would you prefer the guy to pay for the first date yeah mhm okay that I think that's natural for like any animal kingdom type thing let me frame it like

Brian Atlaslet me frame it like this for you cuz you said whoever ask should pay which sort of glances over the fact that in 959 9% of situations men are asking

Brian Atlaswomen out on dates not the reverse um if a guy asked you out on a date and on the date he was like hey um the waiter comes by and he says Hey two two bills please

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)would you feel a certain type of way about that I would would there not be a second date it would be negative right it depends how good the date is maybe he's

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)down bad maybe he's real down bad and man not be pursuing you asking you on a date that is true maybe you shouldn't invite someone on a date if you can't pay for

Naomithem oh he can pay but he wants to split oh okay I don't know about that that would give the wrong impression you're not trying to court that why does that give that impression what do you mean you're trying to win over this you could

Brian Atlasstill you could still have a romantic interest in somebody and want to split the bill yeah but why are you asking a girl on a date if you're expecting her to pay what do you mean like I said once

Naomiyou get into a relationship right whoever like initiates it then I'm like okay if I ask you to specifically go somewhere like I'll pay for it Nikelodeon donated

TTS Donation Reader$100 Brian please put this miserable witch out of her misery and throw a glass of water in her face best case scenario it cleans the spunk out of her

Brian Atlaseyes do it do it no I'm not going to throw water on any of my guests but uh thank you man I appreciate the sentiment I guess thank you thank thank you Nickelodeon appreciate it Nickelodeon go

Naomiahead go ahead I have an interesting um so I was on a podcast a couple weeks ago access Vegas with Michael Stine and Rolo yeah red pill people too um and they asked all the guys in the room if they'd

Naomiever initiated a date without the intention of having sex and none of them raise their hands and then they asked all the women if they've ever gone on a date without the intention of having sex and all of them

Naomiraise their hands but then the thing I want to get your opinion on is I think it's fair if a man like has the intention of wanting to have sex with a woman because he ultimately finds her

Naomiattractive and like that's right part of that and it's okay but I think also on a woman's perspective it's not necessarily a bad thing because you could be giving someone a chance that you may not have otherwise to get to know them what are your

Brian Atlasthoughts you mean if the woman goes on a date with a guy who she has not yet determined if she wants to have sex with him but so is that the question is is that fair or good or gives her an

Brian Atlasopportunity to yeah what's your what's your thoughts on it in general if that was I don't object I don't object to it if you haven't made a determination whether you want to have sex with this person or not and you go I don't think

Brian Atlasthere's anything wrong with that okay you can go I don't think women are obliged to go the only scenario where you can go on a date with a man is if you want to have sex with him I don't think that that's has to be the case I

Brian Atlasthink you should have a gen romantic interest and not just be going on the date because you're bored or want a free meal I'm not saying all women do that but some do mhm so okay yeah I just want he what were they arguing that the woman

Naomihas to want to the guy that's crazy well just saying like of course a man wants to have sex with a woman I'm like yeah I agree with you of course a man would want to have sex with a woman that he's expending his resources on right but that's I agree like a man should pay

Brian Atlasfor the first time I mean I would agree that most men if they're wanting to go on a date with you they've probably already made a deter that you're attractive enough to have to have sex with although I've had situations where

Brian AtlasI've gone on a date with a girl wanted to have sex with her and she kind of talked herself out of that I'm like oo I don't really like you anymore so there's that and I

Brian Atlasdiffer with from some guys like some guys are like yo I'm still going to hit but she's a terrible person I'm like no I'm just I I just can't do it I

Naomineed to like the girl a little bit thanks babe appreciate it why didn't little banter here just a little banter jeez okay I just I wasn't sure if you were talking to me but you

Brian Atlaswere looking right at me so I was like oh my God okay are we having a moment no just don't don't over don't overthink it I'm blushing don't overthink it um we wait we're going around the table oh who

Brian Atlasshould pay I would prefer if he paid prefer the prefer if the guy pays I think whoever initiated it should pay but more often than not who initiates man okay what about you I think you

Katiesplit down the middle my girl okay I totally agree I think it's split down the middle at least for the first couple dates and if he's insistent that he pay then I'll

Katieusually always offer to tip or get dessert and once I'm in a relationship with somebody I like to do the you pay I pay you pay I pay okay what about you um

BriI'm a traditional woman so I expect a man to step into his masculinity and be the provider because I'll be feminine and submissive sure uh dinner dates are

Brian Atlasoverrated by AG guy okay yeah see I okay one follow-up question then I'll give my take on this

Brian Atlasuh would you when you get if you get married when you get married would you take the guy's last name yes depends on

Brian Atlasif it's a cool last name oh hold on but hold on traditional gender roles such as men paying for the first date traditional gender rules would seem to dictate that you should take the

Brian AtlasMan's last name in the case of marriage they do what if he has a shitty last name doesn't matter doesn't matter you take it anyways but okay I'll go around the table before yeah I I would take my husband's last name would you take your

Brian Atlashusband's last name I mean I'm I guess I can't say that yet but I wouldn't be opposed to it wouldn't be oppos but hold no no no it's not just that if you want traditional treatment I never said I wanted I you want you said you want the guy to pay for the first dat choose huh

Brian AtlasI get to pick and choose what do you mean pick and choose equality the buffet it's a buffet you get to pick and choose the thing that benefits you and those that okay that's why it's but you actually

Brian Atlasadmitted to you want to pick and choose the things that benefit you when it comes to traditional gender roles I mean I'm I'm probably going to take his last name but I just haven't

Brian Atlasthought about it till right now so I can't say confidently and I also really like my last name okay so that seems like it would be a begrudge I would have to think about let's say

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)let's say he has a bad last name how bad give me an example yeah give a bad name I think I'd like it maybe oh my God I

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)Taylor fle I can see it Taylor fle everybody that's how about Mrs fle like you can't I don't think that's that bad I think that's a pretty good one

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)corn donger that's even better po I don't I don't care about the last name I would take it just to make things like easier but to me that's not like

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)a I don't think I'm like giving up a part of myself but that's how tradition is I get I get your point fer I love that f f

Brian Atlasthat kind of sounds sick too I might now oh my God okay to me I just I don't think it's that big of a deal you you said that you want to pick and choose I was kind of kidding but before to start

Brian Atlasthis conversation are you traditional or not and I said like what is traditional like I'm have some that are traditional and some that aren would you take your husband's last name I would like like add it to mine you H it yeah but you

Brian Atlaswant a guy to pay for the first date I said whoever initiated the first date would pay do you frequently initiate First Dates yes I have you have but more

Brian Atlasof than not I have multiple times actually and do you pay or do you split yeah if I'm taking them I asked them on a date I'm going to pay for them first dat not not boyfriend not guy you're

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)seeing first date I'm concave on this but okay whatever I can actually be here on the testimony contest for

Brian Atlasme okay whatever okay what about you well you said 50 it should be split right yes yeah okay but I would take on his last name actually here's my

Brian Atlasposition I want the girl to want to split but I'll just pay for it well yeah you always you always say oh I'll split it and then they're supposed to yeah first one no the first one no I actually

Brian Atlasno let me let me go I hate guys who just talk let me just go even that's great what

Brian Atlaswork uh I'll I'll go even further I want the girl to want to pay for everything oh but I want I'll pay actually you know what what if she more I want her to S

Naomiand actually I'll just let her pay I'll just let her pay that's like the most based thing ever what was your question if she makes more money than you said you want to marry a girl that's I would be willing to marry a woman who makes more money than makes more money than you but you pay for

Naomieverything she wants to pay for everything wait what's the question he wants her to really want to no no no that's what I'm saying if a girl made more than you yeah and she wanted she she went to reach for the bill every

Naomitime but you paid anyway would you still pay if she made more money than you or like no I'd let her pay really yeah she can pay for everything I still want to lead

Marithough what's your sign what's your sign I know that's stupid but what is it it kind of

Mariis um what's your sign I'm a Taurus okay I'll tell you after the show what the why can't you say it during the show I don't want to say it during the show oh you don't want them

Brian Atlasto know yeah I don't want I don't want any witches out there to cast some like Capricorn know everything from your sun sign I don't know bro I've talked to some witches bro you don't know you don't you haven't seen

Brian Atlasthe things I've seen bir I'm not telling you my birthday anyways moving on moving on yeah most of the time I'll just pay

Brian Atlastrying to fight now I'll pay mhm but it's kind of dope if she's such a a simp that she wants to pay that's kind of dope that's a good Dynamic

Brian Atlasokay okay all right cool after good talk hold on we got some more notes here wait you didn't finish oh sorry sorry my bad I took my husband's last name and I was really stoked to take his last name cuz

Brian AtlasI really liked it good for you yes I'd gladly take my husband's last name of course there you have it folks there you have it there's this we had this girl on the show who she made this joke uh she

Brian Atlaswent viral actually and maybe Nick you can pull it up it was the girl who she did a Tik Tok and she it was about paying for the first date um it was the one that chase was on do you remember

Brian Atlaswhat I'm talking about Nick um she was like oh that's funny like if if a guy ever offered on a date to split the bill she would be like oh that's funny I didn't know that we were

Brian Atlasthat this was like a friend date just friends class it was a Tik Tok um and then she came on the show we had her on the show is that the girl that said oh my God I'm so embarrassed I don't know

Brian Atlasbut let me finish my thing it is okay oh yeah yeah yeah that one oh I'm so embarrassed mhm actually play it and then I'll I'll do the explanation

Brian Atlasexplanation what do you have the do you have it no I'm looking for it what do you what do I look up uh girls it's like maybe Google search there was a New York New York Post

Brian Atlasarticle New York Post uh girls reaction to men paying for not paying for the date I think that might that might find it what was

Brian Atlasher name while you're doing that I'm going to read some chats here maybe not uh wait we did this one Brian do you game if so what are your games and what is your console I used to I used to play

Brian Atlasvideo games I don't play anymore I haven't played any video games since like April 2020 um I yeah I used to play video games used to play World of Warcraft Just I'm too busy it takes up way too

Brian Atlasmuch because I'm not like the type of guy when it comes to video games where I can like play for an hour I'm I'm like an addict with talking about yourself earlier I'm an addict with that shits a

Brian Atlasday if I'm going to play a video game I'm going to play that all day so does so I have to I just prevent myself from playing it all

Brian Atlasotherwise yeah are you good like I'm pretty I like I played Hearthstone I was I hit Legend World of Warcraft like you know I was I was in

Brian Atlasthe top rating Guild like you could like stream and like make money from it though or no I don't I would into it I don't want um I wouldn't do that but Tor I appreciate

Brian Atlasyou get addicted again I don't know if it's an add personality question mark I actually don't think I have an addictive personality but with video games it's

Brian Atlashard to like with World of Warcraft it's hard to play for just an hour like you want to keep playing that all

Unknownday so you found it yes go ahead oh yeah I've seen this one wants to go 50/50 with you on a date do this oh

Unknownyeah oh my God I'm so embarrassed right now um wait you wanted to just be

Brian Atlasfriends oh some medium was that was it an ad or something or yeah there's more to it though yeah if you're able to pay play the rest just

Brian Atlaslet the ad play on mute and then we'll uh let me see if there was any chats here no no chats there guys go totv whatever oh there it is okay go ahead hopefully wait what oh sorry oh just let

Brian Atlasit play Let It Play Let It play Let's see if there's more oh it wasn't that it was just new you forced okay it's lame that they won't let the whole thing play but whatever

Brian Atlasyou get the idea so she's like oh you you want to split oh you wanted to be friends and then she came on the show and then then we asked uh somehow the question of would you take your

Brian Atlashusband's last name come up and she was like well no I got I like my last name I wouldn't take his last name and then Chase who was my uh who was one of the male guests on the show he said oh I

Brian Atlasdidn't know you just wanted to be friends you don't want to take my last name that's cute too sh uh lawyer or I don't know what Fu the

Brian Atlashow the turntables have how the turntables okay uh what what's up what do you want to say Naomi say it nothing say it I'm

Brian Atlasgood it was just funny okay cool thank you for sharing Naomi that was great oh Natalie you wanted to talk about Princess treatment

Natalie Winterswhat you got for us oh yes um I think the term in and of itself is hypocritical because all women don't

Natalie Wintersdeserve princess treatment because they are not princesses the inent part of that is that you have a certain status you're born into something so you get treated a certain way out of factors that you can't control and I think a lot

Natalie Wintersof women show up to relationships just looking what guys can do for them um and they don't necessarily deserve like the traditional relationship Dynamic um but I think also there's just a weird trend

Natalie Wintersof like very weird social media dating advice for women I think that makes you think like it's all great to Value yourself but like being a high value woman and how you date as a high value

Natalie Winterswoman and it's just sort of I don't know maybe I get weird Instagram ads um but yeah I just I don't think I don't agree with that term yeah you give what you get your ads are based on your like like

Brian Atlasyour search history and what you say on your phone by the way I I did know that yes I think a lot of you know these people calling themselves

Brian AtlasQueens Kings I think it's kind of cringe even both men what's that it's very entitled Behavior yeah oh I'm a queen I want princess treatment at best I can

Brian Atlasoffer you Court Jester treatment that's the best I can do otherwise you're going to get peasant treatment surf I'll give you surf treatment you're a surf it goes

Natalie Wintersback to I think the inflated sense of self which I guess is maybe sort of the hypergamous nature of women but if you view yourself not as a literal princess but like as deserving of that I just

Natalie Wintersthink you're showing up to relationships looking for what you can get out of someone and nine times out of 10 women then like reject the traditional female role in a relationship I'm not going to cook I'm not going to clean and it's

Brian Atlaslike well what what are you bringing to the table so basically what you're saying is is that women should immediately as soon

Natalie Wintersas you meet a guy do his laundry I'm not saying that necessarily I just think that's what I'm saying women show up sometimes I think with a

Natalie Wintersdelusional sense of self in relationships and they they just want men to like do everything yeah and they don't reciprocate and if you were to ask them to like do your laundry they would

Natalie Wintersliterally be like what the heck this guy is like from the 17th century he's so backwards it's like well not not really um but I think that is also kind of female nature I feel that I don't really

Naomilike the term like bring to the table either cuz like in a relationship I feel like you should be like building together and get to that point where like you do submit to your man because I I do that naturally in relationships even though I'm

Brian Atlasnon-traditional like I do want traditional relationship I've always been in traditional relationships so you you want a traditional relationship yeah Brian we went over be hard that's a hard sale that's a hard

Brian Atlassale I think so you were in sales though so give me your hard pitch not to she was making a third though no I'm kidding I wasn't at the end but when I started right out of

Brian Atlascollege but like do you okay there's there's videos of I mean you said you've done BG content right mhm so there's videos of you out on the internet having sex with other men on

Brian Atlascamera I mean maybe we got different definitions of what traditional is but I feel like that's not the most traditional and do you think traditional men

Naomiwant videos of their girlfriend or wife having sex with another man out there on the Internet G you think that could be a sticking point for some men for sure it's not the pool that I will be dating in though in terms of people that are

Brian Atlasnot okay with what I do so but it it doesn't it doesn't really wkak of being traditional but you really want a traditional relationship Dynamic and

Brian Atlaswell actually to almost make your make an argument for you I think the sad State of Affairs is you might actually you've probably got a good

Brian Atlaschance of actually getting it yeah now now here's but here's my argument though I think because there's a lot of simps out there and a lot of men who will bend over backwards uh

Naomifor the ladies I don't know if you deserve it but you're going to get it anyways that's your opinion which I kind of OB that's totally okay I respect that I respect her opinion too on that you both

Brian Atlassaid like I don't deserve it yeah y'all said that but I think she's going to get it she's going to get it anyways because like she will she will men will thank

Brian Atlasyou cuz like there's a lot of cope like I do think there's a lot of cope where guys are like oh she she did O like her her prospects are forever ruined MH and

Brian Atlasit's like you do close the doors on some guys but like there will be a there will be a guy and we don't know if he's secretly a cuck or feeder or whatever he

Brian Atlasmight be watch out you might get her treatment I'm King friendly so it's okay he's going to Fan you up you never you won't know though he's going to get you I mean your metabolism is good I

Naomihope yeah he's still going to try though I like I eat a lot he's going to inject lard into the cookies here babe here's a cookie hey I'm traditional I would be baking I'm actually a good Baker you're going to be

Brian Atlastraditional I'm going be n Smith one day you're going to be who Nara Smith you know I this is like the weirdest intuition I have with you but like when I look at you oh my god hold on sorry

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Brian Atlasplay get your bagante well we're not a match that's okay AFF all what were you saying about I was this is like the most like Fringe

Brian Atlasintuition I feel like you would have like a you would have one season of a reality show on A&E okay but that would that would be it

Brian Atlasjust one season like a reality show like an offshoot like a total C tier offshoot of the Kardashians okay I don't know if that's a compliment or an insult but that's the

Naomiintuition I have if she did would you watch it well that no I I wouldn't watch you would yeah I think you would you came up with this in your own head thinking about it this was entirely like

Naomia thought of yours I don't know I didn't come up that that was I think honestly though Rand there's a lot more to me and I know you guys don't know me right there's a lot more to me I don't have to

Naomidefend myself but like I don't think I was attacking you I don't think I'm just like only fans itself so I think we would actually get along I mean we do get along really well right

Naomibut we get along outside of the camera when we're not debating things I'm just confused why what wait what okay wait okay let's I

Brian Atlaswant like I'm a good person at the end of the day yeah I do only I don't know I'm not saying you're not I just I don't know you that well mhm that's what I said that's how I started the the

Brian Atlasstatement like sometimes I look at you and I'm like is is this the Antichrist sorry what Ryan I don't know I get this like demon energy from you I

Brian Atlasget some Demon Vibes bro I'm clipping that like there's something in your eyes I'm like he you drawn in or what no I'm kind of scared dude me I'm terrified bro

Brian Atlasthere's something evil I'm kidding maybe it's me but am I but I'm kind of I'm just kidding but I'm serious you let me come back on maybe it's I don't think like I don't think you mean that

Brian Atlassometimes you must confront evil and Shine the Light upon it all that which is exposed to the light itself becomes light okay so I'll see you same time

Brian Atlasnext month or are you flirting no I'm just goinging it's giving FLIR I'm not flirting I just called her evil and Antichrist you know

Naomihow I don't know this is I'm sorry guys we have these once in a while no I mean it is six to seven hours to be fair I'm flirting I called her evil that's really sweet though she's evil you can find

Bribetter way now you understand why like I I'm not trying to flirt I'm just you're not trying to but you are I just made in this here I'll make I'll make uh intuitions about all of you that would

Unknownbe fair oh God go ahead all right all Lord hail Jesus before you

Maristart do you want a word you're going to live an interesting life thank you I don't know if that's a compliment um it is that's my intuition speaking wait

Mariyou're speaking out of intuition I just realized that and you just yeah I'm manifesting right now no that's not manif real that's not manifestation you're just speaking out of you're going

Brian Atlasget a ton more tattoos you're going to date a bunch of bunch more abusive men don't put that on her put that on me thank you that's what I'm projecting I'm

Brian Atlassorry was that did you're projecting that so have you been abused was that out of the pocket don't get canell on your own podcast take that one wait why would that be no keep it on keep it on why get

Maricanel for that keep it on keep it on there's a pattern there's a pattern of behavior here I've I've healed was

Brian Atlaslittle I've healed it's been years no was that a little in the gut punch and it wasn't even to me you

Unknowncalled me the Antichrist At Last I know you can keep going if you want um moving on to you okay I think for

Brian Atlasyou you're going to marry like uh like a senator or a congressman you'll get divorced at 45 you'll have two kids

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)you'll go on to own a maple syrup company for some reason I'm not sure EX why that's so funny you say that because I talk about how I'm going to get married twice it's her plan it's my

Brilittle plan wait you're you're planning to get married twice wait this is on the internet forever maybe don't say that wait let them dig their own grave please

Brian AtlasI'm kidding that's that that bad you have a wedgie de you have a

Brian Atlaswedgie off me I'm going to pass on that one thank you for the invitation I'm going to pass Happ when you

Naomigot I like okay um I think I already Antichrist evil that's so crazy that that's how you see me I feel like I have a very positive energy to myself yeah I

Naomiagree princess you guys don't agree with what I do but like I don't think I'm a bad person at all under there's there's this like bubbling Dark Energy bubbling

Brian Atlasunder the surface you got you got me like I have here's another intuition you you what's

Brian Atlasthe the mom of the Kardashians what's her name Chris Chris Jenner I feel like that's going to be you in the future you're going to be

Brian Atlasthey say the devil works hard but Chris Jenner Works harder so can you guys uh kindly shut the up back there thank you

Brian Atlasum can I ask where the maple syrup came from I get like a I just get this vibe from you like a maple syrup I mean I kind of like that for you though I know I don't disagree I do too I don't know

Brian Atlaswhere it came from like it's going to be this sort of like Artisan like she's going to have the best maple syrup out there Artisan maple syrup company and you're going to like distribute through Trader Joe's like that's the vibe that's

Brian Atlasa good that's a good I like that that's good right uh for for you um should I smile more for wait what's that I said should I smile more yeah the

Brian Atlasonly time you smile at me the entire night um I think for you you're going

Brian Atlasto work in HR Human Resources you're going to be the you're going to do well in HR this is mean I don't like it wait what do you mean HR

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)HR you're going to be work about me she's more worse than the I think the bubbling is me like the dark energy I don't get dark energy from you though you're going to I

Brian Atlasthought that's what he would say you're going to date he doesn't even know a plumber a plumber that's you're

Brian Atlasgoing to date a plumber a blue collar guy my payack but but you're going to torture him okay uh not like in a physically violent way and then for you that's what I'm scared

Brian Atlasnow yeah you're going to breed french bulldogs oh hell yeah I'm down for that you're going to be like so down for that

Brian Atlasyeah you will get married but he'll die early to stress and then wait why why is he so stressed out though because of me and my dogs you you

Brian Atlasknow why for you you are um well your Life Path is kind of set so

Brian Atlasthat's you got two kids I'm just being like really can't be an HR no Antichrist you're going to become a yoga teacher how about that okay I can see that

Brian Atlasyou're going to save all the money you've made from being an RN and and you're going to become a yoga teacher you're going to you're like a Disney person right you're going to

Brian Atlasthere's going to be a viral video of you freaking out at Disneyland like being a like on some Karen you're going to go viral you're going to it's going to ruin your career you're going to end up homeless

Brian Atlasum but then comeback story you're going to end up um meting my prince charming no you're going to end up uh writing a very successful series of romance novels

Brian Atlasnice yeah can I can I do it next uh you over here you're going to um get married you're going to pump out seven children

Brian Atlasdon't put that on me girl put that on me you're going to

Brian Atlasuh that's about it um nadle nadle is going to uh run for you want to politics she's going to do something in the political sphere which she's already

Brian Atlasdoing she's going to become you're going to you're going to be the what's the The Spence Spicer what what was thisr you're going to be the Press SEC secretary

Brian Atlasyou're going to be the press secretary for the president in 20 wait 20 2024 in 2040 you're going to be the

Brian Atlaspress secretary for the Rock and Logan Paul the rock my

Naomithat's the ticket in 2040 yeah thank you okay that was that pretty accurate I feel like I got a pretty good read that was kind of cringe my bad

Naomichildren the devil yes where did you see yourself using your where do you want to be 10 years I see myself retired I don't know I you

Brian Atlaswant I'm going to be I don't know what I don't know what the future holds maybe if I get cancelled who knows what the future has in store for me I'm going to continue on with the podcast in some capacity for for as long as possible uh

Brian AtlasI don't know if I'll be doing the dating podcast forever maybe I bring in some young blood eventually cuz I want to be having this these conversations and when I'm like 45 that would be yeah have a

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)question for you I think I got like three years in me to like have these conversations and then I'm going to want to okay I had now check out I have a question so we claim you're claim to be

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)a dating podcast correct cuz that's what like all the topics or at least that you sent us or she wants to get to the dating you want to talk about well I feel like we barely talked about it and I was like okay it's

Brian Atlasvery true it was a debate we can I didn't really think mean I didn't know a political leaning episode for sure yeah I know I was excited talk about dating I have some stor let's talk

Brian Atlasabout dating then late we can talk about we can talk about it I forget them hold on Sean have question for us say most here are conditional traditionalists wouldn't submit to their husband if they

Brian Atlasdisagree with him I mean I disagree with that yeah wait huh sorry guys I was I wasted five minutes on the future of that I agree with that thank you Sean

Brian Atlasappreciate it here I'll get into some of the pre-show notes here um let's talk about dating are you a Disney adult oh God I would consider myself one yeah

Brian Atlasokay talk about you said the adults uh you have a great awful first date story yes you want to tell us that

Katiesure I it was a blind date with somebody in the military that I met online we exchang

Katiepictures we talked briefly on the phone mind you this was a long time ago but we met at BJs which if you're I don't know

Katieif they have it in anywhere else than California but it's basically it's a micro Brewery pizza place lots of lots of options so we meet there I sit down

Katieand he's did I he's he was in the military and he's just an immediate night nightmare super boisterous

Katiecomplaining talking the waitress comes up she asks what we want to drink and he says I want a Budweiser and the waitress is trying to

Katieexplain because BJ is their micro Brewery that they didn't have Budweiser and he got just really vocal about this is America and I'm an American and I'm

Katiein the military and I want an American Beer and meanwhile I'm just going like this cuz it's so embarrassing uh and so I get up and

Katieleave I decide 5 minutes into the day I didn't want to be there and I go to the restroom I flag down my waitress and I said look this guy is a nightmare and

Katieshe said I don't blame you but the I guess the the funniest part is is this guy was so completely off his rocker that I was afraid that he was going to

Katiefind out that I was leaving and so I parked probably a quarter of a mile away and this is in Laguna Beach and it's

Katiereally hilly and so I'm just booking it up and down all of these Hills to try to get away from the sky as fast as I can

Katiecuz I didn't know what he would do and I unfortunately had left my jacket on the back of the chair and I called the restaurant probably 15 minutes later and and you they said yes he's going

Katieabsolutely berserk be glad that you left so that was my absolute nightmare okay you said you had stories

Katieabout dating a con con artist and a dumpster diver oh

KatieGod so um my second boyfriend I was with him for 2 years um and

KatieI rode the wave of delusion for too long but yes he he considered himself a messiah um a self-proclaimed Messiah

Katiebasically the second coming thought he was the most spiritual evolved person on the planet and me just being really dumb

Katieand naive I kind of was indoctrinated into his philosophy but he was also homeless for a lot of the time that I was dating and so you dated the homeless

Katieguy he was homeless for for a period of time and then he was kind of sort of living in somebody's garage for a period of time and he was I feel that when you're

Katieyoung you kind of just are blind to certain things um but yes on more than one occasion he would take me to this one particular dumpster that was behind

KatieI think it's what is it not Papa John's um Little Caesars that have those ready to go pizzas and at the end of the night they would throw the perfectly good pizzas in a bag into the dumpster and so

Katiehe would fish them out of the dumpster and then take them back and I dated him for two years chivalry is alive

Brian Atlaslady wow romantic romantic you said you wanted to speak on having multiple sexual partners before marriage as opposed to being a virgin what did you

Brian Atlasmean by that what did you want to speak on specifically on that oh gosh um well there's so many ways that I can go

KatieI the there's there's two ways that I can go with this um I think that to your point I wouldn't what did you how did

Katieyou phrase it you wouldn't um you wouldn't purchase a car without test driving it yes and so for me at

Katieleast I feel like my sexual compatibility my sexual chemistry is very quintessential to having a really strong

Katierelationship and you don't know you could have the most amazing loving connection with somebody but you don't

Katieyou cannot predict how you will engage with them sexually until you have crossed that line and I've dated a number of people who I thought I have

Katiethis amazing relationship with them I have this amazing connection with them and then I sleep with them and it's just not there and it's it it's not

Brian Atlasnecessarily awful but it's just not what I was expecting well so does the for you to consider a guy for a long-term relationship does he have to be the best

Brian Atlassex you've ever had oh no not at all but he I I don't want to have a virgin cuz you wouldn't want to date a virgin but it's that okay let's say he's not a

Brian Atlasvirgin though the first okay actually question for the whole table here cuz maybe look some I think we can all agree sometimes you don't always put

Brian Atlasforth your best performance all the time and maybe that's the first time right uh if the first time was bad would that just

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)be no just instantly not going to see them a second time no no no you give them a second chance you know a lot of times they can be nervous and it just

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)doesn't work out oh there you go that's reasonable that's reasonable I agree with cick yeah I agree now depends first time not so great it could be really bad it could be really really bad I've had

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)that happen and but would you still get another chance or no into the mic first time really what if they were nervous yes yes if they were nervous but like I've had scenarios where I've it's the

Brifirst time and they did horribly bad and it was just doesn't Okay well and then yeah like give it a fair shot a couple times or so I'm reting for marriage um

BriI'm not a virgin at the moment but in the past I would be very gracious for the first time in the past okay gracious all right Natalie what about you

Naomiyes okay all right okay interesting wait so wait was that a yes to you would has said yeah okay wait so the you were

Brian Atlassaying though that you want to test drive the car and if the sex isn't but isn't you know look isn't that something you can work on yes and no so for

Katieexample I married my husband I was incredibly in love with him thought he was a love of my life had oh wait your

Katiehusband was not good in bed let me get to it okay so thought he was the love of my life we had D so we had dated for off

Katieand on for seven years before we got married yeah and I was a th%

Katieconfident convinced that this was my person I had found him I loved him intrinsically insided out false and all

KatieI ignored the red flags in the relationship meaning the wait you ignored the red flags to the guy you

Katiemarried cuz I was so in love with him and the idea of marrying him because I

Katiejust I loved him and I was willing to overlook things specifically the sexual Dynamic the sexual chemistry that we had

Katieor didn't have what was lacking I'm sure everybody at this table can have an experience where you have

Katiehad Partners where you just naturally click with them you just naturally there's just a connection there's an energy between you and it just works and then you can be with another partner

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