She DIVORCED Him For BAD $3X?! Dating A FEEDER?! Husband CHEATED With Men?! | Dating Talk #147

Date: 2024-03-27

Duration: 7h 42m

Guests

Brian Atlas

NNaomi (DT147)>

TTaylor (DT147)>

JJamill (DT147)>

KKatie (DT147)>

NNatalie Winters >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Naomi(guest)

SPEAKER_06Mari(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Jamill (+ Kira bleed)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Bri(guest)

SPEAKER_12Katie(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kira(guest)

SPEAKER_14Natalie Winters(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions round. Nine guests introduce themselves. Notable: Natalie Winters (War Room co-host, returning), Naomi (OnlyFans, returning ~1 month), Jamill (39yo RN, divorced after 18yr marriage). Show title references three key stories: bad sex divorce, feeder fetish, husband cheating with men.

“"we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location"”

Key MomentJamill reveals her 18-year marriage ended after husband disclosed Craigslist affairs with men and desire to swing with both men and women. She refused and initiated divorce ~2 years ago. Led to extended dead bedroom. Has 2 kids. Now in a 1-month FWB. This is the "Husband CHEATED With Men" title reference.

“"one of the first things being that he started seeing some people some guys from Craigslist"”

Key MomentBri reveals her 5-year ex had a secret feeder/weight-gain fetish. Discovered 400+ messages on his drunk phone at a friend's wedding showing him telling overweight women to gain weight and monitoring their food intake. He had been taking Bri to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week. This is the "Dating A FEEDER" title reference.

“"it was like a feeding fetish chubby chaser it wasn't even just chubby chasing feeder"”

QuoteBri describes discovering her feeder ex had been taking her to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week during COVID as part of his feeding behavior. "I thought going out to all you can eat sushi multiple times a week was normal — it's not."

“"going out to all you can eat sushi multiple times a week was normal it's not"”

ControversyNatalie Winters (War Room co-host) debates OnlyFans creators Naomi and Mari on ethics and societal impact of sex work. Argues it destroys nuclear family, is anti-intellectual, and predatory on lonely men. Naomi/Mari defend with companionship and autonomy arguments. Extended debate touches on Christianity, porn addiction, feminist theory.

“"I just think what you guys do is considerably considerably worse for the country for society"”

QuoteMari defends OnlyFans using reincarnation theology: her physical body will not carry to the next life so her current physical choices are irrelevant from a spiritual standpoint.

“"I believe in reincarnation so my body right now this body isn't going to come with me to the next life"”

QuoteNatalie Winters reveals she has been sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party for investigative reporting and has been cited by Congress.

“"I'm sanctioned by the Chinese Communist party because of my investigative reporting I'm cited by Congress"”

OtherSelf-ratings round. Most women rate themselves 10. Mari: 10 (mood-dependent). Emmy: 10. Naomi: 10. Katie: 6. Bri: 8. Brian: 5. Brian declines to validate the 10 self-ratings. Viewer TTS donor assigns ratings by clothing description.

“"ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you"”

ControversyMari suggests men who prefer virgins are "predatory" (pedo-adjacent). Unable to defend argument when Brian challenges with 25-year-old virgin scenario. Says it "just gives the ick." Cannot name 10 books supporting her witchcraft beliefs. Calls Christianity a cult based on a missionary's explanation of grace. Double standard noted: will not make same claim about Islam.

“"it just gives you the ick potentially pword potentially"”

QuoteBody count round: Naomi states body count is "less than 20" and declines exact number. Mari states 5, Brian applies ×3 rule of thumb. Jamill's count of 29 referenced in group.

“"uh five five mhm I'm 22 years old multiply by three and that's the real number"”

QuoteKatie argues people can grow beyond a high body count or promiscuous past. "There's always a lid to every pot" — even someone with an egregious past can find someone who accepts them for who they are now.

“"there's always a lid to every pot so even if you do egregious things when you're younger"”

OtherEnd of show. Brian wraps up around 7:42 AM (running very late). Raids Twitch streamer. Crew signs off.

“"it is quite literally past my bedtime"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status

Nine guests introduce themselves: Mari (22, Orlando, event promoter/OnlyFans), Emmy (22, Bay Area, UCSB sociology), Naomi (26, Phoenix, OnlyFans, returning), Taylor (25, Bay Area, RBT), Kira (24, Bay Area, SBCC comm), Jamill (39, RN/standup comedian, divorced 18yr marriage), Katie (41, OC, optical, single 7yr), Bri (26, Santa Clarita, public health student), Natalie Winters (23, Palm Beach, War Room co-host, returning). Relationship status round: three guests are returning (Naomi, Natalie Winters, and Kira per context). Notable: Jamill recently divorced after husband revealed interest in men and swinging.

Jamill: husband cheated with men / divorce story

Jamill (SPEAKER_10) describes her 18-year marriage ending: husband confessed around year 14-15 that he had been seeing men from Craigslist, then disclosed he wanted to swing with other men and women. She refused and initiated divorce ~2 years ago. Preceded by an extended dead bedroom. She was married 2005. Two kids.

Bri: ex-boyfriend feeder fetish story

Bri (SPEAKER_11) reveals her 5-year ex-boyfriend had a secret feeder/weight-gain fetish. Discovered 400+ messages on his drunk phone at a friend's wedding. Messages showed him monitoring women's food intake pre/post meals, telling them they weren't worthy unless they gained. He had taken Bri to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week. She had gained weight during COVID; he encouraged it. After breakup: had brief revenge sex with 2 men.

OnlyFans debate: ethics, value, and societal impact

Extended debate between Natalie Winters (SPEAKER_14, anti-OnlyFans), Naomi (SPEAKER_03, does OnlyFans), and Mari (SPEAKER_06, does OnlyFans). Natalie argues OnlyFans normalizes commodification of women's bodies and destroys nuclear family. Naomi and Mari argue it provides companionship, is no different from Twitch, and is her choice. Religion debate embedded: Bri (SPEAKER_11, Christian) engages Natalie on Christianity vs. Mari's reincarnation/spiritual worldview. Natalie's credentials: War Room co-host, sanctioned by CCP, cited by Congress. Naomi defends: she was in corporate tech before, does OnlyFans by choice, parents are supportive. Porn addiction debate: Naomi disputes it's scientifically proven; Brian cites Adams et al. 1999.

Christianity vs. OnlyFans / religion and sexuality debate

Embedded in OnlyFans debate: Mari and Naomi defend their work using reincarnation and "it's going to happen anyway" arguments. Bri and Natalie push back from Christian perspective. Mari: "I believe in reincarnation — this body doesn't come with me to the next life." Bri: discusses exit plan from sex work and Christian accountability. Natalie: argues promiscuity has more societal cost for women than men (pair bonding argument). Reference to Michael Knowles's 10-year partying period vs. now being traditional.

Relationship status and single panel details

Brian goes around table examining single women's dating situations. Taylor: 3 years single, 8-month situationship; hookups that didn't become relationships. Kira: 1 year single, not looking (moving). Mari: 1.5-2 years single. Emmy: 6-7 months, not looking (moving). Jamill: FWB 1 month, most serious since divorce. Naomi: 2+ years single. Katie: single 7 years, briefly dated in summer. Bri: just out of 5-year relationship (a few weeks). Natalie: has a man "a little in the picture."

Roster / dating multiple people simultaneously

Brian asks who has dated or slept with multiple people simultaneously. Bri (SPEAKER_11): yes, 2 men after 5-year breakup (revenge sex). Someone (likely Taylor/Emmy, SPEAKER_02): 3-4 people casually in past. Others: mixed; most say no roster or just casual overlap. Mari: relationship girl; doesn't maintain a roster. Natalie: "never had a roster."

Partner preferences round

Brian asks each guest desired partner income and number of kids. Mari: min $50k; 3 kids. Emmy: just financially stable; ~2 kids (unsure). Naomi: depends on lifestyle; 3-5 kids. Taylor: stable; 2 kids max. Kira: not specified clearly. Jamill: enough for kids to live comfortably. Katie: at least $75-80k; one child (done; IUD). Bri: stability; stay-at-home mom early on; 2 kids. Natalie: more than her father (infectious disease doctor); 2-3+ kids (above replacement). Brian: would marry if she's rich and has large labia (joke/tangent).

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Viewer (Stiffler) asks panel to rate looks 1-10. Order (going around table): Mari: 10 (mood-dependent; sometimes 1). Emmy: 10. Naomi: 10. Someone (Taylor or Kira): 7. Someone: 6. Someone (Jamill): 7 approx. Katie: 6. Bri: 8. Natalie: did not explicitly state (donor rated her ~6.8). Brian: 5. Brian declines to assign ratings to guests ("you guys are not tens — no offense"). Donor TTS: "natal 6.8 Raven hair 7 used baggage 3 mamas San 2 obes blond 2 bimbo 4 a cup bimbo 3 deep voice C four goth thard."

League theory / men sleeping outside their league

Brian explains theory: women get rejected on the back end, men on the front end. Men will sleep with women below their league but not commit; this creates situationships when women overestimate their league. "Your league is who you can get commitment from, not who you can sleep with." Debate over whether women who self-rate high are delusional. Extended discussion with Emmy (SPEAKER_02) who says rating is subjective/pointless. "Will you be more attractive in 10-20 years?" round: Most guests say yes; Brian calls it delusional for those over 22. Exception: Bri (26) says no, youthfulness peaks earlier.

Would you date a World of Warcraft player

Brian asks if guests would date a WoW player (7-14 hrs/day). Emmy: 7 hours is a lot but if he's making money streaming, ok. Bri: no (it's too much time). Mari: if he's a Twitch streamer making money, maybe. Katie: her ex/baby daddy played Dungeons & Dragons. Brian discusses Season of Discovery Phase 3, raid composition, guild leader responsibilities, split-raiding for loot. Twitch raid from "Stay Safe" mid-show.

Plastic surgery / cosmetic procedures debate

Brian reconfirms natural body supremacist position. Prefers: flat chest over implants, natural labia over labiaplasty, natural lips over filler, natural belly over lipo, natural ass over BBL. Naomi reveals she got a labiaplasty during her year of celibacy (2022). Brian: "that's a dagger to my heart." Katie: former esthetician; left beauty industry over values conflicts. Discussion of who is to blame for unrealistic beauty standards: majority say "a little bit of both" (men and women). Brian: biological male preferences (large butts, big breasts) drive some of it, but not blame per se. Natalie: cosmetics companies and social media are primary drivers.

Abortion debate

Brief abortion discussion triggered by chat TTS. Emmy (SPEAKER_02): abortion acceptable for emergency situations; not a simple issue. Bri (SPEAKER_11): values life; stricter position. Brian: returns to topic briefly then moves on.

Who should pay on dates

Brian asks who should pay on a first date. Mari and Naomi: whoever asks should pay. Emmy: man should pay to show he's courting. Bri: traditional — man should pay. Katie: split down the middle (first couple dates); once in relationship, alternating. Natalie: man pays as provider expression. Brian: suboptimal to pay for women who made prior men wait but now won't make you wait.

Last name debate: would you take husband's name

Brian asks if women would take husband's last name. Most say yes or probably yes. Bri: yes (traditional). Natalie: yes. Mari: probably yes but depends on last name. Katie and others: probably/open to it.

Virgin preference / "pedo" debate

Mari (SPEAKER_06) suggests men who prefer virgin women may be "predatory" (pedo adjacent). Brian challenges: is a 25-year-old virgin woman's male admirer a pedo? Mari cannot explain her argument; says it "gives the ick." Brian: are Christian and Muslim men who prefer virgins PWs? Mari says yes for Christians, avoids comment on Muslims. Bri (SPEAKER_11) and Natalie (SPEAKER_14) push back as Christians. Mari calls Christianity a "cult" due to her interpretation of grace/salvation doctrine. Bri explains Christian theology on free will and grace. Brian notes double standard: Mari criticizes Christianity but not Islam.

Body count round

Brian asks guests for body counts. Mari (SPEAKER_06): 5 (Brian applied ×3 skepticism). Naomi (SPEAKER_03): declined ("less than 20"). Group count round: "Angel nine, 29" called out — Jamill stated 29. Bri (SPEAKER_11): less than 10 (only within relationships). Natalie Winters (SPEAKER_14): declined to disclose. Brian: declined ("personal rule not to disclose"). Extended debate: does body count define a person? Katie (SPEAKER_12): disagrees — people can change and grow. Natalie: there is a meaningful difference between men's and women's promiscuity impacts.

Transcript

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Katiewhere you may get along with them really well but the sexual Dynamic is not there and there's no way of making it work there's no amount of counseling there's

Katieno amount of practicing that you could do to fix it and that's where I fell short with my husband I just I loved him

Katiebut I didn't have that inic part that you need with a partner that makes it different from every other relationship that you have

Katiewait you guys were married for 5 years was it no no no no no so we dated from the time I was 23 to 30 off and on it wasn't one off and on again Rel an off andon relationship and then you did get married though we got married and we

Katiewere married for married mhm the the reason why I was so hellbent on marrying him is because for

Katiethe the longest time he wasn't ready or didn't want to commit to me so when he and that's the reason why we would always break up is because I wanted to be in this committed relationship but he

Katiewas not willing to give me that so I would break up with him and then we would get back to together and how many times was it off and on a lot he moved a

Katiecouple times 10 times less maybe five five times who would who would reinitiate I think me because I just I love and you would initiate yes I just loved

Katiehim so much I just couldn't let him go cuz I was convinced that he was my person and I was just willing to make the sacrifice of maybe not getting everything that I wanted at the

Katietime but you would eventually got married mhm who initiated the divorce it was Mutual it was Mutual I think we were both unhappy for different reasons what was the I don't know if you said it what was

Brian Atlasthe reason for the divorce was there infidelity no it was just what sex was bad was that the reason for the divorce think I think there's I can only speak for myself cuz I can't speak for

Katiesomebody else but I think for me the reason why I personally didn't want to be married to him for the rest of my life was because

KatieI could see myself cheating on him and I didn't want to do that and so I decided to make the decision to break up because

KatieI was yeah excuse me I was just unhappy sexually I felt like I couldn't ever connect with my partner he had a lot of emot you guys having were you

Katieguys having sex or was it a dead bedroom we we were we were also trying very hard to conceive for most of the time that we were engaged and married so we were having a lot of sex but you have a kid

Brian Atlaswith with him or is this from a different man okay you have one kid different man um wait and you got married before or after you have a had a kid I I got married at

Brian Atlas30 and I had my child at 35 so I with a different person okay uh wait so did you tell them that the sex wasn't

Katiereally oh yes we had so we we talked about okay well do we need to go to therapy and maybe we need to practice the way we kiss with

Katieeach other and we would openly talk about the fact that we wanted to fix this as a couple as a unit as a as

Brian Atlasa what was his explanation there I don't I would you would you

Katieclimax I would make myself you uh okay mhm so he wasn't able to make you climax not him alone no

Katiewould are other have other partners been able to do that M I usually always have to help myself a um but it was for for my husband I it

Brian Atlaswas just has a guy a guy's never been able to make you climax yes but it's more rare it's very rare yeah and I I don't mean to get is

Katiethis are we talking clitoral orgasm or I've only had that I would say maybe as I could probably count on one

Brian Atlashand and is that like something that cuz for some girls it can be a mental thing like it's maybe there there's not a level of comfort there or I was very comfortable with him what it what the

Brian Atlasproblem was is it was just very mechanical te for for you no did you watch did you watch porn no did you use toys no so with your own hands you'd be

Katieable to get yourself to climb I just didn't feel that he he had a lot of emotional blocks that he wasn't comfortable talking about and so I think it inhibited from feeling that super

Brian Atlasdeep intimacy with him and I need that in a partner order to clim well in order was the sex bad because you could the guys could the guy couldn't make you climax or were there other reasons why

Brian Atlasthe sex was bad it was bad because it it wasn't intimate and there wasn't love and there wasn't romance you mean he just like wanted to hit it from the back basically like all the time did you feel

Brian Atlasempowered when you're with him that's the question not at all there you go the sex wasn't intimate what do you mean it just there wasn't was he really into rough sex was that kind of I mean and

Katieyou wanted more gentle sex yeah okay I see I I get that and I think he was willing to give that to me and compromise but the what was missing at

Katiethe end of the day was that that pure intimacy that you can only get when you're really vulnerable with another human being and he wasn't able to give

Katieme his full vulnerability so I always felt like he was holding back um I mean I'm not that sounds a little bit

Katielike I'm not sure why that's a component of the sex being bad but it for me it is I have to have really emotionally

Katieconnected sex for I mean don't get me wrong I like to be you know railed every

Katieonce in a while but but most of the time I like to have a close loving bonded connection with my partner and I just

Brian Atlasnever felt that with him but you you said you loved him right I did so the sex was bad from a technical

Brian Atlasperspective or there was a missing connection Comfort intimacy mhm that's what it was I think she said both emotional connection he was always

Katieholding back and I felt that I felt like he was holding back sexually no emotionally I felt like that's what men do that's the name of the game we don't

Katieyeah but not with your wife how was he holding back he wasn't allowing himself to be fully present with me he was I think he was scared

Brian Atlaswhat do you mean fully present I mean it's obviously I imagine this is something that's hard to precisely articulate but without actually seeing the dynamic

Katieor knowing the dynamic but uh it wasn't and it wasn't just it wasn't just sexually he just he held a lot of Secrets from me in general and I

Katiefelt it the most in the bedroom yeah you have to pay attention to how you feel when you get oh no man from a GU I don't know man that sounds like a

Naomilot of work it sounds like kind of a lot of work I disagree I mean you don't even want to get married to someone but like

Brian Atlasthere's a level of intimacy and I can speak the sex was bad yeah but I can speak on that as a sex just but you said that you want a test drive so like for you it wasn't this thing

Katieof like when you're dating somebody new how long do you typically wait before having sex with them a couple couple like at least a week or two sometimes longer but it's usually it's it's

Katieusually a few dates in okay it's usually never the first date so the sex is always going to be bad no well I'm just confused because like it was just bad with him cuz I just couldn't I just

Katiedidn't ever feel close to I thought it was just it felt just very mechanical like the sex that you get when you meet somebody for the first time and you're just banging that's what it felt like for me it didn't feel like the love and

Naomithe intim intimacy that you're supposed to feel with your lifelong partner okay uh I know what you're saying I completely actually like understand what you're saying yeah know I do too that's

Katiewhy I was trying to like give a little yeah you can have amazing great sex on paper or like for example one of my last

Katieboyfriends was a perfect 10 on paper he hit all of the boxes we had theoretically great sex but we didn't have that connection and so we only our

Katierelationship only lasted for a couple months because he felt it and I felt it and it was just like a Mutual you know this was great while it lasted thank you very much but I'm going to be on my way and I don't know man that sounds like a

Katielot of work so what it sounds like to me Brian is you have had a lot of mechanical sex but you haven't had a lot of really intimate wonderful beautiful sex because you don't even know what I'm talking about no it just seems like you

Katiewant this sort of vague nebulous ethereal thing which the people who know the people who know know what I'm talking about that's all I have to say me I'll actually throw this out there I

Brian Atlasactually don't like the rough sex that you speak of I actually prefer more intimate gentle sex I'm not clear if that's what you're really why are you looking at me that way look I get that you want to just like have super crazy

Brian Atlasrough sex relax not everybody's into that okay chill out bro I'm just trying to see what you're going to say no I actually prefer I don't want to like do

Katiethe the Jackhammer yeah real connection like have you felt that super deep connection with someone like have you looked into a woman's eyes and just like held her hand and have it

Katiebe this beautiful moment between you two like two Souls bonding together if you've never it doesn't have to be that you want some Disney doesn't have to be that but you know a difference between like when you have a con kind I

Brian Atlascan't can't say the word I'm not going to say the word but that sounds kind of no that's I think what real true intimacy is I think your expectations be kind of crazy when it comes to okay my

Naomiquestion though have you had experiences where you feel more connected than another if you're having the same type of sex have you felt more connected to one person over the other emotionally during the sex sure yeah okay so that's

Naomiexactly what she's saying but it to her extent is not exactly your extent but it does make sense right of that different level of connection and it's not a lot of work when you have a natural intrinsic connection it just it works

Naomiyou don't have to think about it it makes sense to test it out before you get married in certain people's scenario if you're not for religious reasons that's totally cool and that's your own thing but like for some people that's not what they believe in

Brian Atlasso I'm I'm a little lost to be honest I'm not even sure where to tackle that from maybe maybe your expectations are a

Katielittle too high that's possible I had a really I had a pretty I had I was blessed enough to be

Katieintimate with somebody who blew my mind in every way possible and it wasn't the sex it was the intimacy it was the love

Katieit was the connection and so I have a pretty high Benchmark from which to base my future connections and I I would I would tell him all the time and if

Katieyou're watching he knows I would tell them all the time you ruined me you literally ruined me because because now I have this super expectation so I'm very Cog I'm very

Brian Atlasaware of it there's this I don't like the term Alpha but it's actually a good descriptive uh thing here so you've been with a guy was he um I mean the sex itself was great but was he also like

Brian Atlasreally attractive and like hit a bunch of check marks too I don't think yes and no I don't think well yo

Brian Atlasthis is dangerous once a girl gets a certain way bro you guys are I'm sorry dude I'm sorry I'm

Katiesorry I'm sorry but I I would say it's over I would say I would say he's he was a traditionally attractive guy I don't know this is why body this kind of Segways into our next conversation that

Brian Atlasyou wanted to talk about is body count here's the thing once you enough guys you've landed on a certain dude that just like it could it it might not even be SE but it could be like you're

Brian Atlashe's just so attractive or his status or just like something his Charisma or the way you feel about him that is not going to be easily

Brian Atlasreplicated in other men and you're going to use that guy as The Benchmark for all the other guys going into the future absolutely I have a really great analogy for but this actually almost let me let

Brian Atlasme just add one do that too though not really not really it's bit different um this actually stems back to the rating

Brian Atlasthing so here's where women get into big trouble because you have sexual access to men that you can't get commitment from if you those really attractive

Brian Atlasdudes that will never give you commitment and then like the guys who will actually commit to you are like one two three points down either their sex

Brian Atlasgame status money whatever it is you're going to be like you're going to be comparing the guy who who you can actually get commitment from to the guy who you can't get commitment from and

Brian Atlasthat makes for a terrible terrible relationship cuz you think you've settled when really you're just shooting out of your league huh talking about physical is not the same as what she's

Maritalking about though exactly she was talking about connection that whole time mhm that do you not know what connection is okay so let me let me let me give you my analogy that's not the same thing of

Naomilike at the end of the day in terms of sex what we were talking about is looking for that specific connection so like what does that even mean the connection if you if you've

Marinever experienced it it's hard to quantify the vibe you guys are talking about the click the chemistry the vibe there is there such thing as sexual chemistry experienced like that connection with some there's sexual chemistry and then there's romantic

Brian Atlaschemistry I'm sure you would agree like you can feel the click or Vibe for somebody before you've had sex with them right yeah okay but sexual chemistry is what she's talking

Brian Atlasabout okay there hold it sounds like you're holding these men to this like this one guy just really proper he he literally ruined but she actually

Brian Atlasadmitted it she said from her own mouth she said he ruined me for other men and that's precisely why segueing here why I think body count matters cuz eventually you keep it's like a Russian Roulette

Brian Atlaswell not Russian Roulette you keep keep rolling the dice and eventually you're going to land on a dude who you just right or who's just attractive enough and then all the all the guys let's let's assume that that

Brian Atlasrelationship doesn't work out that's the Benchmark for all the other guys moving forward and it sets those men up for disappoint you're going to disappoint your

Katiegirl but there's always there's always the potential to form a new Bond or a new connection with that partner so it's not it's not completely that's so okay

Brian Atlasyou said that like while you're while you're these like new men do you think about the guy who put it down just right that's such a oh my God that's

Brian Atlascrazy bro I that's so crazy dud she's she's having sex with other men she's having sex with other men and she's thinking about the guy who did it just right so I can answer oh my God that's

Katieso I can answer that question so the reason why that's crazy the reason why I knew I needed to get a divorce was because I have a crystal clear memory of

Katieme having sex with my husband and thinking about this other guy and me knowing in that moment I have to divorce him because if I don't get out of this marriage I'm going to cheat on him I'm

Katiegoing to try to find this and I know that's really up but I didn't want to be a cheater not it's not I that's happened to me too so while you were hold on let me

Brian Atlasrecap here while while you were having sex with your husband you were thinking about another man who you were having who you had better sex with and because

Brian Atlasthe sex with your husband wasn't as good as the sex with this other man you wanted to get a divorce it wasn't the sex it was the connection but yes it was the realization the guy who was really

Brian Atlasgood in bed how long did you dat him for 6 months and how soon did you have that connection at after meeting him immediately it was immediate you wait

Katiehold on I thought a connection is something that takes a while to develop no it's that intrinsic connection that you either have or you don't with a person it's either there or it's not you can build you can build on that

Mariconnection to have formed deeper connections but this is a red pill if I've ever heard no but there's different types of connections there can be a sexual connection well this was a Bas Primal

Brian Atlasconnection mhm you had the click mhm mhm you never had that before Why didn't it not why did it not work out with this

Katieguy because he was a lot younger than me and I didn't want um younger meaning uh he was he was in a completely

Katiedifferent stage in his life from me and I didn't want to hold him down by being in a relationship with me I kind of made

Katiethe sacrifice to let him be young and do and experience his Youth and not be tied down by me mhm was he a was what AR Arch

Katietype archetype is was he are we bad was he a bad boy archetype archetype um he was cocky but archetype but sweet cocky

Brian Atlasbut sweet M um tattoos no no tattoos mm okay pretty much the antithesis of what my type is I should say

Katiehe was the opposite of what your type is what's your type tall dad bod not cocky down to earth short he was

Katienot short I think he was right about my height ripped skinny no skinny skinny bad skin bad skin yeah okay mhm

Katiebut I saw beyond the physical I just fell in love with who he was uh were there any were there any

Katielike be uh did he have any personality disorders no he was the most normal he was he was

Katieso mature like I met him when I was 28 and he was 22 and at 22 he was already a pilot he was already working in aviation

Katiehe was already on his way towards his Aviation career and he was just very goal driven hly donated

TTS Donation Reader$100 it's beyond up Brian's right good men get over cause of your fairy tale delusion disgusting after you

Katiesegue into body count can we ask why they deserve this man that they dream of I didn't say I I completely am I'm I'm don't live in dulu land I am very aware

Katiethat it's up thus why I wanted to get a divorce cuz I didn't want to be that awful person that she did on her husband at least she's aware of her life like actions a lot of people can't be

TTS Donation Readeraware of that and they don't validate it Nikelodeon donated $100 and they say peir bonding isn't real girl you're ruined am take the guy

TTS Donation Readerthat's willing to love you and be happy you got it Soul TI after this show that will probably be harder go back to a hubby well he's married to somebody else

Brian Atlassoul ties are real soul ties are real this is crazy I mean this is a huge difference ni and I appreciate your um your message we have another one here that's about

TTS Donation Readerto loose energy donated $0000 holy These Hoes are Haram thinking of other dudes while your husband is you Brian Abdul is

TTS Donation Readersharpening his rocks he would like to see this 304 a sap # get the rocks well when I said when I said when I agreed with her I was thinking about a

Katiegirl not another guy just saying and I'm not a 304

Brian Atlassorry I'm almost at a loss for words here that's crazy that's wild um I'm if anything I'm 100% honest I'm

Brian Atlasnot delusional I know I credit you for your honesty and actually being able to admit that because that's spreading awareness by doing that

Brian Atlasum you thought that was funny definitely not mainstream I mean this look really quick on the whole click chemistry Vibe lightning butterflies whatever whatever

Brian Atlasterm you want to attribute to it uh I don't really believe in that cuz you've never had it no look I've had I've had women that I get along better with You' never had it if you if you can't no

Maribecause men and women are different feeling you'll know that feeling that's just a cop out it's not a cop out it's just this like it's sort it's this nebulous thing bro nothing

Brian Atlashappen agree with them on this one that's fine if you agree but it's like here's what I think it is who hurt you when you don't feel that here's what it is he doesn't trigger your anxious

Brian Atlastrauma response which you confuse for love that's what that is that's what the click and the chemistry and the connection is or the other thing it

Brian Atlascould be is you'll feel that for a guy who's like really out of your league M that's the other way to to trigger it no I 100% am very aware of the whole

Katiebutterfly thing you're not supposed to Fe want to feel butterflies with the person you have potential partnership with because your anxiety is heightened and your cortisol levels are heightened

Naomithat you should feel calm and at ease with your partner mhm I guess your s aware not the same thing as sexual chemistry no but we're talk okay there's like differences here yeah that's what

Brian AtlasI'm like that's all I was talking about the whole time that's that's crazy son that's crazy explaining the difference to between that well I mean if if we're

Brian Atlasgoing off of The Click or the chemistry or the vibe how many who here has felt going around the table starting with you who here has felt that for

Brian Atlassomebody have you felt you felt it you felt it you felt it you felt it you felt it you felt it you felt it you felt it well did I

Brian Atlasmean I'm curious did that person end up always being a good person that you felt that for yes they always were a good person yes they were always the the one

Brian Atlasyou should have been with no no did any of those guys let me ask you another followup question starting with you did any of those guys that you did feel the chemistry or the click or the whatever

MariSparks whatever the term is with did that guy turn out to be a piece of yes but there's a difference between the feeling that you feel that's

Naomiall I'm going to say continue yes I'm still just talking about sexual chemistry just romantic chemistry romantic chemistry they end up being a piece of yes not in every

Brian Atlasscenario no I'm not saying in every scenario but have you felt it for a guy and turns out he really wasn't the you probably shouldn't have picked him yeah

Brian Atlasokay have you had that yeah okay yes yes yes with other people yes yeah yeah well it's not clear to me then if

Brian Atlaspicking men based off of this nebulous click is really the optimum way of finding a partner it's not happens yeah but we were not

Brian Atlasbeholden to our Base Animal instincts of wanting that person that you know maybe boring is good maybe

Brian Atlasunexciting is good um cuz y'all are so yall got the it's like you your dopamine hits so up you need a guy who's like chaotic or introduces chaos into

Briyour life because you're addicted to the drama and the excitement you're chasing the feeling yeah not me you're addicted you guys are addicts you like the toxicity you like the toxic guys I mean

Brito be completely Fair my 5ye that was like he was super boring in every way and he had a feeding fetish so well that no one's safe okay

Naomino oh I just think in terms going back again to the sexual chemistry part it's important for someone like me and I said it's not for everybody because if you're holding off until marriage or whatever

Naomithen that's totally like your own thing but for me I do want to make sure that I am sexually compatible with my partner before getting married I I think that's fine I think it's fine if you want to

Brian Atlashave good sex with a partner I do think there's a difference though here between men and women men don't typically prioritize sexual experience in women IE because women really value like that

Katieintimacy what do you mean exactly what you just said no I think Brian is saying Brian most men would prefer women that don't have a lot of sexual is that what you mean sexual experience men prefer MH

Brian Atlasyeah yeah that's fine right well there's a differential here though seems women either don't care or prefer men to have some degree or perhaps a great degree of sexual experience never yeah I never

Maripersonally said that I just feel like the connection has to kind weird of men though cuz like why do you want someone who's like freshly experienced like it's kind of like okay it's giving you want a

Brian Atlaschild or something if you look at biology like men want to okay always with the you you do realize like for example to make the extreme argument like a woman could be 25 and still a

Brian Atlasvirgin yeah it does what what do you think let let's just take your thing to The Logical conclusion what do you think is more p word a man who wants to date a woman who's 25 who's a virgin or a man

Brian Atlaswho wants to date an 18-year-old who's had sex with 100 men what do you think is more and I don't actually I mean well a virgin you

Brian Atlasthink you think it's more p word to want to date a 25-year-old let's say he's let's say he's 28 and how old is the girl I already gave you the numbers

Brian Atlasshe's 25 and she's a virgin versus an 18-year-old who's had sex with

Marimen that's a hard one now because I thought the 18yearold was a virgin um okay yeah I'm still going to go with the Virgin

Brian Atlasanswer that makes absolutely no logical sense but okay um we have Sean here Brian put in a good word for me with oh she who's Bri here oh I'll bring this back up when

Brian Atlasyou come to the table then bro that's so you're talking like age Gap now or you think me do you you think men who prefer women who have a low body count

Marior who are virgins are predators you think it's predatory PWS um not all of them but it can give some

Maritra it can give some not all of them but it could give some traits for sure especially as um like I'm 22 and I was really like I've always looked really young right now I don't know how old I

Marilook look but I've always looked really young like since a jit so I've realized how men act and yeah I don't know it's just weird that's all I got to say so

Brian Atlasyou think it's weird for men to prefer women of any age with a of any adult age with a low body count virgin low body Count's different

Brian Atlasokay so men who want to date women who are virgins are PWS not pord they're what then it's just it gives you the ick is that it it just gives you the

Maripotentially p word potentially well now you're going back okay it's potentially pord why should I say 5050 of them are p word or should I what if they're what if they're the same age no no no no hold on

Brian Atlassay what you're going to say go ahead all of them are PWS all all men who want virgin women are PWS but what if they're the same even if the woman is 30 and she's a virgin he's is he

Brian Atlasreligious I don't see how that's relevant let's say he's not if he's not um

NaomiH I'm just going to say with both the ansers yeah yeah I think it just goes back I actually agree with you on this point it goes back to like not wanting to have

Naomiyour girl compare you to anybody else I don't know my guy friends I've talked to they're all like I want to be her only experience doing YZ and not just like sexual in general like experiences like

NaomiI want to be the only man that took you to this restaurant if if you've been here before don't talk to me about it that type of thing because they're like I don't want to know I want to be in my mind like I want to be that only experience for you yeah I guess so

NaomiI think it's fair from that perspective do you agree with that mindset or no I agree for men to yeah I think to want to be like your only experience in their head at least of like I'm doing this I'm the only one that's done this fair and

Katieit's totally natural and I think on the flip side women actually prefer men and I'm not speaking in generalities but women

Katieprefer men who have had more than one sexual partner because I don't maybe it makes them more manly like they're experienc they know what to do they know what not to

Katiedo they could take the lead like I wouldn't want to be with somebody again that's a virgin or hasn't had sex all that much because and I feel like I'm taking the masculine role and I don't

Brian Atlasthink women like that so I think there's a dichotomy there wait I we'll get to body count just a sec going back to you m what is your argument for men who are

Brian Atlasattracted to women who are virgins what's your argument there for it being

TTS Donation ReaderPW well what's the reason what's the reason why they want to explore a new Young body like that what if they're not young what if it's a 30-year-old V donated

TTS Donation Reader$100 feel for you Brian don't think you'll get through to them dot ladies men and woman aren't the same most of this panel is 100% delusional men don't

TTS Donation Readerseek experience they seek exclusivity and security wulu okay what is your so what is your argument I just think it's a little

Mariweird okay you think it's weird what's your argument um I get what she was saying what are you saying but also it's just like

Mariwhat's the intriguement behind a fresh new body like that because I don't know cuz like like I was saying the PW like

Mariyoung people who aren't experienced Just Like a Virgin you know and I'm just trying to make that connection for you and if you can't click it then that's okay end of

Brian Atlasconversation okay words have meaning definitionally words are spells

Brian Atlasso let's say for example a 25-year-old virgin this is an adult woman so how what is the argument you're going to make that a man who's attracted to a

Brian Atlas25-year-old woman who happens to be a virgin is in any way p word what's my argument like what do you

Brian Atlasmean how are you coming to the conclusion that the man who's attracted to a 25-year-old secretly is attracted to what is it you have to be under 15 or

Mari14 to be considered attracted that he's been sitting there waiting for a virgin is kind of weird um who knows who knows that that's the case but also I know

Brian Atlaslike the religious standpoint and all that um okay sure let's go there so are Christian men or Muslim men who want to date a virgin are you prepared to make

Brian Atlasthe argument that Christian and Muslim men are PWS because they prefer virgins Christians

Brian Atlasyes why no comment that's it ah okay so you're fine with attacking Christians but not Muslims is that what you're saying I wonder why that is me too if

Briyou really feel that way I would like you you enlighten me I've asked her to make an argument and she can't and if you if you misspoke then you can just say that you misspoke but if you genuinely mean that I would

Marilove to hear why have you guys not I'm sorry I'm just not trying to like get like the government on this government no you're good but like explain your

Brithought like like fully cuz we you came on a podcast to explain your opinions and to put your opinions out there I'm a Christian I would love to hear what you have to say about this um and if you

Mariwant to recant your statement recant your statement CU remember how I was talking about how they knocked on my door yeah okay so um I just see Christianity as and I know

Mariyou guys look at me like a demon but I see is kind of like a cult lowkey and you guys are being brainwashed and I don't mean that in no disrespectful way

Brian Atlaswait just curious why are Christians in what way are they being brainwashed is it because they believe in God earlier I don't recall you explaining it because

Maribecause okay this is what they told me and she explained it too but she said or the people told me I was like okay so in

Mariorder to go to heaven all I okay Jesus committed his sins for us so we came here as Sinners so we're already Sinners so that's what they told me right so I

Mariwas like okay so in order to go to heaven all I have to do is just like pray and believe in whatever and she and then she explained to me like the differentiation between that

Mariand I was like oh so that means if you're an r word or in whatever you're still going to heaven and yeah and they're like yeah so that's why I was kind of like what the fu okay but back back to you wait wait one thing you said

Brian Atlasokay you said Christianity is a cult what about the other religions are you prepared to make that statement about the other religions no what so why do you single out Christianity um cuz I've just been doing more research on that

Kiraone right now I mean if any I think you can make the argument about Catholicism don't Islam but Islam is let's wait let's not let's not go there let's not

Brian Atlasgo there I I just wanted to know your your further in-depth opinion I'm not even going to continue engaging there it's just getting ridiculous let's hit on body count really quick let's try to wrap up soon so body count yeah so you wanted a segue you said you disagree

TTS Donation Readerwith me on oh hold on grle donated $150 this woman is stupid pedos don't care if a child has experience or not they are

TTS Donation Readerattracted to children that's why they are pedos the definition is someone attracted to a child adults aren't

Brian Atlaskids word yes words have meaning here I'll read this and then we'll get into it uh Sean Brian put in a good word for me with Bri remember I saved you from that

Brian Atlasline yeah Sean Bri uh Bri Bri Sean did save me from a lion one time oh my God thank you Bri oh my God I'm so happy he's alive if he

Brian Atlasum if he uh slides into your DMs I'm just saying give him a chance you know give him a chance hi Sean thank you all right you disagree with me on body count

Katiewhat go ahead so you I don't remember when you said it but you said well you you made the connection of Body Count

Katieonce you have a high body count it almost sticks to you it is your past and it defines who you are and you equated it to well once you're a murderer you're always a murderer and I I can see where

Katieyou're coming from but I don't agree with that I feel so for example did I say that yeah you did did I yeah okay

Katielet's just assume I did okay and so for me personally I and I I I don't

Katiethink I Stu on a lot but I had my share fun after my divorce and I did a lot of regrettable things when I was younger

Katieand as I've matured as I've grown older as I've become a mother I take my who I let into my bed more

Katieseriously and I've grown and I've become more wise and more particular with the men that I choose to be with and I I don't feel like once you've been a

Katiepromiscuous person once you've been an an only fans girl that that always has to Define you I think you can grow and learn and evolve and mature and move on

Mariand that stigma doesn't always have to be attached to you exactly just like the whatever podcast doesn't have to be attached to you forever you feel me like you can grow from that you can get

Marianother that just I mean it's it's basically just like throwing it out there Dro on your head as a child were you cuz you're clearly not understanding what I'm saying no I'm

Katieclearly not so I guess you were dropped I mean wow was that the reverse Uno well done you did great there that was to just like throw it out once somebody's born again you know whatever they born

Katieagain no whatever they've done in the past they've Now set a new life course for themselves living in for example a better a better more pure light okay so I mean there's a couple things there so

Katiethere's one my I make arguments but I also just to interrupt you I feel that way to a point if you slept with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people

Brian Atlasthen it's kind of a slippery slope so I say to a point okay well there's a couple things there first we can get into the body count but the other thing is I've made arguments of well if a girl

Katiein her past previously for example had sex with men fairly quickly but then all of a sudden changed up yeah the the past 20 men she slept with and then forcing the next guy to wait like three four

Brian Atlasfive weeks or until marriage I've heard that yeah you're free to do it mhm but I think that's a that's an L for the guy I think that's an L for the guy um I think

Brian AtlasI can understand her you might be able to find a guy who's okay with it but I personally would be like one I mean I maybe I'm not the best guy to ask on this because I'm not interested in Waiting long periods of time before

Brian Atlashaving sex I think me personally I don't really believe in waiting for sex uh you know in terms of like um I feel that you know I'm fine having sex relatively early on and I'm not going to judge the

Brian Atlasgirl for it I think there's better indicators where you can make judgments on that front but I just think it's uh well there there's a couple factors to

Brian Atlasthis so for example if like that's going to just be her guaranteed position moving forward okay I want to wait months from now on and you're never going to falter from that that's a bit more respectable than like I would feel

Brian Atlaskind of like a sucker she was wishy-washy with this yeah like a week ago she a guy really quick oh you meet me you've changed up you want to wait 3 months we date for 6 months and then as soon as you're out of the relationship you a guy right away

Brian Atlasit's like okay that was never your actual value set you just arbitrarily wanted to leverage sex for some reason or you you heard something in a Cosmopolitan and you're going to leverage sex

Brian Atlasabout it it now I mean but my advice to men for example who maybe they also want to wait I still think it's a suboptimal dating choice for you to get with a girl who previously was promiscuous and then

Brian Atlasnow she's going to make you're look as a woman you can always change up you slept with a 100 men on the first date and then you meet a guy you really like and you want to wait until marriage that's

Brian Atlasyour call you can do that I think that's a raw deal for the god you're free to do it but I from the guy perspective that feels like a raw deal I could totally I could totally whether

Katieyou want to wait or not mhm I always like the adage there's always um a lid to every pot so even if you do egregious things when you're younger you don't

Katiemake the wisest decisions all it takes is one person to love you for who you are and see past what you see past what you did in that past except you for who

Brian Atlasyou are now and your goals and how you want to move forward and call it a day you just need that one person to see everything happens for a reason I mean just from my own experience I've

Brian Atlasencountered like I've dated some women who they'll tell i' I'll ask kind of some details about their past they'll tell me and I do feel like a bit raw

Katieabout it like oh you you've hooked up with these guys and you hooked up with them quick but now you want to wait well maybe she thought you were special and different and that's why she wanted to

Katiewait because she was like Wow Brian's this really cool intellectual interesting guy I don't want to ruin my chances and sleep with him right away and have the chance that he's going to think of me a certain way so I'm going to wait for him well here's the thing

Brian Atlasyou at least for me specifically you've actually gone ahead and ruin your chances with me if you're going to make me wait when you didn't make other men in the past wait if it's always been

Brian Atlasyour standard if all the guys you dated you waited that's more acceptable if you're a virgin that's more acceptable but but if you you 10 10 other dudes seven other dudes quick back and

Brian Atlasthen oh Brian I want to wait I want to wait until marriage I want to wait 3 months I'm going look at you like I'm just not going to date you I'm not going to pressure you I'm just going to be

Brian Atlaslike hey there's a mismatch here you want to wait I don't let's go our separate ways I think that's a little weird of you to ask such a specific question though what do you mean how's it weird

Naomilike has any guy ever asked you girls like how what what's your patterns on how you have sex in the past before me that's a little weird no never well it could come up like this I mean if if you

Brian Atlasif you're a guy and you're desirous of having sex with a girl and she's like no no no I've got a 90day rule a 60-day rule I want to wait 3 months and be like oh okay I respect that has that been

Brian Atlasyour standard for all the other guys you've dated and if you tell me no oh yeah I hooked up with a guy a month ago you're not fresh enough in your new value set for me to take you seriously

Brian Atlaswith that so if you if you're going to be steadfast and want to wait it's nice meeting you but yeah I ain't waiting that's I can see where you're coming from and I think women if you want to

Brian Atlasmake just like you said you want to give the car a test drive like women can also if if the guy wants to wait till marriage and you want as women want to have sex before marriage that can be a

Brian Atlasdeal breaker for you and you can say I don't want to wait I'm going to meet somebody new it was nice to meet you goodbye yeah respectfully no so it's I don't have a double standard on it okay

Brian Atlasbut um look let me to give you I want to give you an analogy here so you you were saying well she really likes you so you know all those other guys were

Katiejust mistakes and we just fun but she really likes you or maybe she just decided she woke up one day and she's like you know what I don't want to be promiscuous anymore I don't want to sleep with guys on the first date

Brian Atlasanymore cuck flower meme that's uh oh cucks the cuck flower meme that it it has to be uh it has to be sens the censored one though um I'm a

Brian Atlasprofessional in cucks okay thank you for sharing that it's just I I don't it's you're going to have to Google it it's just look you reward the boys who will

Brian Atlasnever give you commitment with them and you reward them with immediate sex but you punish the guys who are worthy of a relationship by making them wait weeks or months I don't know it's just I think

Katiemaybe the mentality and I I could be wrong but I think maybe the mentality is kind of going along with what you said or what you've said in the past is if if a girl sleep sleeps with you right away

Katieyou might not take her seriously down the line said I never said that okay well some men some men might think that like if if they sleep with a girl right away she's kind of she she's out of the

Brian Atlasrunning for relationship status I agree with you that some men will will certainly view it that way me personally I don't think that that's a good metric to disqualify a girl on based on the

Brian Atlasquickness with which he has sex with you yeah okay oh he's ready you got something Nick yeah this is kind of uh we it's

Brian Atlascensored but uh I don't know this is like kind of it that's how that's how guys feel kind of gay kind of well no it's not wait what the

Brian Atlasuncensored part I can't make out what it is okay it's a line of men there's a girl at the end and then one of the guys has flowers is the girl bending over

Brian Atlasthis just sounds like a bunch of insecure men okay insecure yeah okay here I'll give you a couple analogies here so tell me if this resonates at all how this is for the whole panel tell me how

Brian Atlasyou would feel so you really like this guy you go on a date everything is great but you find out he wants to 50/50 with you until you guys are

Brian Atlasmarried but then you learn his last three girlfriends he paid for everything rent dates vacations he even went on a date a week

Brian Atlasbefore he met you and he paid the entire Bill all the chivalry all that how's that make you feel I think maybe he's just being cautious maybe he's just been screwed

Katieover one too many times by gold diggers I don't mind mind the cautiousness I think if maybe you wouldn't feel a certain type of way about that I mean everybody has everybody has the right to change their

Katiemind and to change you know how they go about dating you don't have to stick to one thing for the rest of your dating life well she also say you you said you were okay with doing 50/50 though right so that's I mean yeah obviously I think

Katieif we started da I got more analogies I we started dating and I could see that we were both you know going towards a certain path I wouldn't mind doing 50/50

Brian Atlasbut it's it's like you withhold intimacy with the man that you supposedly like but you'll give it away to men who are undeserving I like we'll have girls we've had girls come on the show and

Brian Atlasthey'll say well uh if I'm traveling or I just want to have fun I'll just right away but then the guy I really like I'm going to even though it's not even my my value set it's just this arbitrary thing I'm going to make the

Katieguy who I really really like I'm going to make him wait for sex even if he wants it I'll make him wait yeah because she probably wants a relationship from that particular person she just doesn't want to get she just doesn't want a you

Katieknow so you're using sex as leverage she's us using the as a distraction until she gets the other I think she she just wants to go with the intent of having it be more serious as opposed to

Brian Atlasjust a hookup in the beginning how about this how about this okay all the X's got five star meals

Brian Atlasmhm but you get you get McDonald's I'm fine with that because he turned because he turned over a new Leaf hey he's saving money okay that didn't

Brian Atlaswork okay how about this one I'm really open every Friday you guys how about this I thought we were against McDonald okay I'm I'm let's just okay we're just going to go back to body

Brian Atlascount because I'm not going to be able to explain this to you guys uh okay do you think going around the table do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count yes

Naomino um not necessarily insecure if it's like religious regions but kind of explained earlier of like they ideally want a girl with a low body count

Naomibecause they don't want her to compare so it's not saying like oh you're just insecure it's just like yeah I mean in the back of your head sometimes

Katiesometimes I would sometimes too they're insecure okay no no okay I would say no I think it's just personal preference

Brian AtlasFair i' say sometimes sometimes insecure okay what about you uh no okay all right should body count

Naomimatter um no yeah for me it does okay for me it

Naomipersonally doesn't no no no no no yes if body count doesn't matter what's

Mariyour body count uh five five mhm I'm 22 years old multiply

Mariby three and that's the real number oh okay um 5 * three what's your body count seven I'm not disclosing no come on

Brian Atlasdidn't you say it last show no range want to give a range less than 20 okay seven seven hold on now

Mariyou guys all have the same body count on your friends seven the truth seven Angel nine 29

TTS Donation Reader29 wait hold on ohed $100 high body count shows a difference in values women don't like men who sleep with dudes why do you all think men want

TTS Donation Readeryou after you've slept with the exact PPA you don't like in a partner wom uh yeah Bas Bas Cagle uh body count

Brium I'm not going to say range you want to do range I only sleep with people I'm in relationships with in the past I would do that less than 10 yeah okay I

Marididn't disclose last time why why are some people allowed to disclose not I guess it's not fair life's not fair I mean he's not like holding you yeah you're right life's not

Marifair at least I'm not capping five I'm 22 and I was in a relationship since I was 15 three

Mariyears then wait one then three then one huh yeah I want to ask the chat chat do you think she's telling the truth let me know chat going to say no well

Brian Atlaswhatever your answers are multiply by three and that's the real number all right I want to give you guys credit I want to give you guys credit though for answering the question those of you who did no it's it's good I know it's hard

Brion you to do that no it's not I think it's hard on you that's why you didn't do it for me wait Brian yeah what's up what's your body count well hold on you didn't disclose you can't be asking yes I did I gave you a range give me a r yeah what

Unknownis your body count I don't disclose my body count sorry guys but it's personal rules for the there we go wait I have a

Mariquestion give us range gustava what's your body T we should up no no said Sarah uh Sarah that's really personal

Marithough it's crazy how you ask these personal questions to us and we can ask I'm kind of the interviewer kind of I know but like imagine that what happened

Unknownbro what is up with in your childhood BR what girl you should make merch I don't know what happened what happened Brian

Unknownthat's what it's going to say sorry honestly I would buy that's copyright right there maybe I'll just I'll put a one instead of an I so I don't get copyrighted go no you totally could and then you can

Bridonate the proceeds to people for who need therapy boom I don't think it's insecure for men to care about body count okay in fact I think it's super secure okay super secure interesting

Brian Atlaslook let's just go over a couple basic ones obviously somebody who's had more sexual partners is more likely to have an STD people who have had more sexual partners more likely to cheat more ly to

Brian Atlasuh for there to be infidelity greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction greater likelihood of difficulty when it comes to pair bonding uh also there's um there's a

Brian Atlasbiological component and an evos pych component of why men care about this more than women it comes down to paternity certainty so in the past before there were DNA tests if a if a

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