Andrew Wilson vs. Feminists! Scumbag Doctor GHOSTS Her After Taking Her V-CARD?! | Dating Talk #152

Date: 2024-04-15
Duration: 8h 15m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background Voice(audience)
SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson (alt segment)(guest)
SPEAKER_02Raina(guest)
SPEAKER_03Faith(guest)
SPEAKER_04Daliah(guest)
SPEAKER_05Alicia(guest)
SPEAKER_06Kisha(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08TTS/Donation Voice(audience)
SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_12Millennial Millie(guest)
SPEAKER_13Renee(guest)
SPEAKER_14Eden(guest)

Key Moments

00:03:26
IntroBrian asks guests to introduce themselves; reveals notable panel: 21yo married Faith, former OnlyFans creator Raina, 27yo Kisha with trafficked sister.

"please tell us your name age location and occupation"

00:04:45
OtherRaina introduces herself as a 21yo who has had OnlyFans for 2 years and is looking for a new job after quitting.

"my name is Raina and I'm 21 and um my occupation I've had only fans for the past two years"

00:17:10
OtherKisha reveals she was briefly married; husband put her in hospital; her sister was trafficked and she has not seen her in 4 years.

"he had put me in the hospital... my sister was trafficked... I haven't seen her for four years"

01:20:20
OtherRenee says "I wish I was aborted" as a hypothetical argument for abortion rights; panel takes it seriously and checks on her wellbeing; she clarifies it was rhetorical.

"I wish my mom had aborted me... I wasn't alive today because my childhood was rough"

01:35:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson argues women should not have the right to vote; argues rights are social constructs enforced only by men. Brian quickly disavows the position on camera.

"men are the enforcers of Rights... only men should be able to have the stake and the claim to vote"

01:41:09
QuoteBrian publicly disavows Andrew's women-shouldn't-vote position to protect channel from cancellation.

"women should vote I'm I'm fine with it not trying to get cancelled"

02:44:37
QuoteDaliah rates herself a solid 8 in looks.

"do a solid eight solid eight"

06:23:20
OtherRaina recounts visiting LA for modeling; her agent had no real license; she received death threats at the model house on her first trip to LA.

"apparently my agent didn't even have a real license... when I got to the model house I was getting death threats"

07:03:10
OtherFaith recounts waking up with unexplained dark bruises after sleeping with an atheist coworker she describes as possibly an "Antichrist" type; never saw him again; experience drove her to celibacy and Christianity.

"I woke up with um like things bruis like bruises and what the [bleep]... really really dark bruises and I don't know how they got there"

07:18:23
OtherEden recounts being a 19yo virgin who dated a 40yo podiatrist from San Francisco for 3 months; he took her virginity then immediately blocked her on all platforms. He kept a digital Kindle scrapbook of every woman with photos and written reviews.

"after after we had sex though I I got home and I was blocked... there was chapters"

07:19:30
QuoteBrian's shocked reaction to Eden's doctor ghosting story.

"holy F*** bro this is... he had the big book of virgins"

08:08:20
QuoteRaina discloses her body count as 21; notes she knows a civilian man with 23 so she is "doing better than most."

"uh like 21... I know a guy with 23 and he wasn't even a sex worker"

08:13:10
OtherBrian announces this was the longest stream ever, breaking the 8-hour mark, then raids WowGrandma78 (82yo World of Warcraft streamer) on Twitch.

"this is our longest show ever we broke the f*** eight hour stream mark... we are going to raid... WowGrandma78 she's 82 she plays World of Warcraft"

Topics Discussed

00:03:26
Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation, relationship status. Notable: Kisha reveals briefly married (husband involved in trafficking, put her in hospital); Raina reveals 2-year OnlyFans career; Faith reveals she is 21 and married.

00:07:40
Relationship status round

Brian goes around the table asking about current relationship status, longest relationship, how it ended, and recent dating activity. Renee: on-again-off-again (ex texted her that day). Raina: recently single after 2-year relationship with ~40yo adult film performer. Faith: met husband at club in Berkeley. Kisha: was briefly married, husband became adversarial. Millie: common-law married 12 years, two kids. Eden: 1.5-year age-gap relationship with 32yo.

00:30:30
Men play chess, women play checkers

Kisha presents her father's philosophy that men and women think differently: men play chess (long-term strategy, compartmentalization), women play checkers. Discussion of whether feminists in power are being manipulated by men behind the scenes. Panel debates and partially agrees.

01:04:00
Deal breakers round

Brian asks each guest for their deal breakers in a partner. Renee: no passion in life, no style. Daliah: disrespect, disloyalty. Kisha: man who does not put God first; unequally yoked. Raina: mama's boy, porn-watching, feminine men. Faith: passive/feminine men. Millie: not loyal, no God relationship. Alicia: addiction (vice as mistress). Eden: no goals/career ambition, too much partying. Andrew: cruelty to children and elderly.

01:05:00
Porn, OnlyFans, and body count

Discussion of whether prior adult content work is a deal breaker. Raina (former OF creator) says it depends on context; deal breaker is active habit. Panel analyzes psychology: ex watching porn -> Raina started OF. Brian's position: sex work history is 100% deal breaker for long-term relationship.

01:13:20
Abortion debate

Extended debate triggered by hypothetical: Renee says if she got pregnant tomorrow she would consider abortion because she wants to go to law school. Andrew Wilson argues from pro-life position. Debate covers: when life begins (24-week viability vs conception), Scott Peterson double-homicide analogy, financial readiness argument, adoption and foster care. Renee mentions she sometimes does not want to live; panel addresses this carefully.

01:24:15
Who is a feminist (panel round)

Brian asks each guest if they consider themselves a feminist. Renee: identifies as black feminist (intersectional). Andrew: not a feminist; argues Millie IS a feminist by egalitarian definition. Millie: not a feminist; reformed feminist; believes in traditional gender roles. Faith: not a feminist. Alicia: not a feminist. Eden: qualified yes (equality + traditional roles). Kisha: not a feminist; Christian. Daliah: not political.

01:24:15
Women's voting and Christianity — patriarchy debate

Andrew Wilson argues Christian ethics require patriarchy; female pastors are "fake Christians." Millie partially agrees on traditional roles but rejects women-shouldn't-vote. Panel debates whether submission in marriage means husband has absolute financial authority. Millie says husband manages joint account; she trusts his judgment.

01:35:00
Women's suffrage debate

Andrew Wilson argues women should not have the vote; bases argument on: (1) rights are social constructs enforced by men, (2) only enforcers of rights deserve voting stakes. Millie and Renee argue from constitutional/god-given rights framework. Extended debate on whether rights are real vs social constructs. Brian disavows Andrew's position on-air ("women should vote, I'm fine with it").

01:46:00
Military conscription and women

Panel debates whether gender equality requires women to be subject to military draft. Eden says she would be "not opposed to it." Millie argues women should not be drafted due to reproductive role and physical differences. Andrew runs population/polygamy argument. Brian notes he personally does not support female conscription.

02:44:00
AR-15 in bedroom — gun ownership as red flag?

Chat scenario: perfect man in every way but has a loaded AR-15 next to bed. Renee: would ask why; would want it secured away from future kids. Kisha and others: not a deal breaker if he follows gun laws. Faith: depends on context — goofy college kid vs. grown man. Andrew/Brian: self-defense discussion; AR-15 fires small 5.56 bullets.

02:44:37
Self-ratings (1-10 looks)

Brian has Stiffler (chat) ask each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Daliah: 8. Raina: 8.5. Background voice: 6. Millie declines to rate but chat can rate her. Kisha: 4. Andrew rates his wife at 6. Debate over whether self-rating is meaningful or gendered.

03:06:40
Physical attractiveness: male vs female standards

Extended debate on whether women can objectively rate their own attractiveness. Andrew argues women deflect the question by adding non-physical qualities. Kisha argues women gauge attractiveness through internalized male gaze. Discussion of fertility as basis for male attraction to women. Andrew rates his wife at 6 physically.

06:15:00
Hoe to housewife: can promiscuous women reform?

Panel debates whether women with promiscuous or sex-work backgrounds can make good long-term partners. Kisha (Christian): references Rahab from Bible; reformed individuals deserve family. Brian: women can change but men are not obligated to marry them after. Alicia: shares personal redemption arc around alcoholism. Andrew: hypothetical about son wanting to marry 250-scene OF performer.

06:15:00
Raina's adult industry story

Raina elaborates: started OnlyFans at ~19 living on her own; recruited by message. No family financial support. Ex-boyfriend was ~40yo adult film performer; narcissistic/abusive. He cheated; she found him searching for new girls on YouTube. Also recounts: modeling agency in LA; agent had no real license; received death threats at model house on first visit to LA.

06:33:20
Faith's personal story: party phase, Antichrist encounter, marriage

Faith describes freshman year at ASU: feminist/astrology phase, party culture, depression. Describes relationship with atheist coworker she slept with 3 times after 4-month slow-burn; woke up with unexplained dark bruises; never saw him again; describes this as encounter with "Antichrist-type." Became born-again Christian; met husband at club; married at 21.

07:18:23
Eden's doctor ghosting story

Eden (21yo) recounts: at age 19, met 40yo podiatrist from San Francisco on Tinder. 3-month courtship; daily calls; 5 in-person dates; he promised love and future. He took her virginity; as soon as she got home, he had blocked her on everything. He had a digital Kindle scrapbook with chapters on each woman he'd slept with (reviews, photos, profile pics). Brian/panel: he was a serial virginity-collector. Panel reacts with shock; Eden says she dodged a bullet.

08:06:52
Body count round

Brian asks each guest their body count. Renee: declines initially; confirms less than 10. Raina: 21. Millie: single digits (between her and future husband; been with current partner since age 20). Daliah: declines. Andrew: declines; teased to multiply whatever he says by 3. Panel agrees men have the right to care about body count.

Transcript

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07:38:23
Reneeand over I don't know [ __ ] cuz I'm 19 and you're like oh I wonder is it it's so so it's my fault that you're stupid because you're 19 it's not your fault no
07:38:33
Unknown/BackgroundI know it's not I'm just 19 it's not my fault yeah but theoretically if there was a 40y old 19 sher's feminist I'm a badass empowered woman but at the same
07:38:44
Millennial Millietime at the same time I'm a victim of the evil patriarchy is there any limit though to the to the age Gap like would you say that like I would get pretty grossed out clear though that I don't have a we're
07:38:57
Millennial Millietalking about we're talking about adult Rel ship here we're talking about I don't even want to entertain I don't 60 and
07:39:07
Millennial Millie20 60y old lady and a 20 no I'm saying a 60y old lady trying to date a 20 something year old guy that's fine yeah there I can't think of a moral argument
07:39:20
Millennial Millieagainst it right but it's ick right like you grossed out by it sure right but but it's not like it's not immoral as in no never say that there's a problem with
07:39:33
Brian Atlasit okay wait couple last few things on your thing and then we're going to wrap up the show you said uh some red flags you mentioned there was the book right right you had the Scrapbook with all the
07:39:44
Brian Atlasother girls he had carnal knowledge of um did you get the impression that he like dated those women long term or like was there any inkling as to this guy was just like running through chicks or what well I thought that at the time I
07:39:57
Edenthought that they were like girlfriends that he had had for like a long time and so that's why he was kind of like holding on to Memories maybe that's what I told myself did he show you photos of these girls uh yeah were there photos in
07:40:08
Brian Atlasthe Scrapbook were they mostly younger women no there was like there were older women older women some grandmas in there okay um I mean like now you and Faith
07:40:18
Brian Atlasover here are friends um apparently Faith you actually met this man correct yeah I did you went to a concert you met him one time uh yes right you guys went
07:40:30
Brian Atlasto a concert together and the whole time he was being really nice but then once the concert was over he got super quiet on the drive home and he flipped out on you about he didn't want to drive home
07:40:42
Edenand how we had been terrible to put up with the whole n mhm so he was just being weirdo in the car yeah yeah but he was like very very
07:40:52
Faithangry like yelling scre I know were you guys being obnoxious no no like I I was like so like shy like I I was just excited to like see they don't seem that obnoxious yeah I don't I don't get that
07:41:03
Edenimpression so he brought a friend were you guys liquored up or no no okay he brought he brought a male friend yeah and he had kind of been foot
07:41:12
Edendoctor huh was it the foot doctor too I don't gynecologist yeah maybe but um he was kind of like I interpreted it as he was like hitting on you the entire night and so I
07:41:25
Faiththink that maybe he might have been upset that yeah that what because I I had a boyfriend at the time too so obviously like so yeah I mean his friend was actually very very polite very shy
07:41:36
Faithso I didn't really like say anything cuz I just was like okay you know I have a I have a boyfriend and this guy isn't like addressing me or anything so I'm not like deliberately ignoring him or giving him the cold shoulder trying to I think
07:41:49
Brian Atlasthat that was his intention with it though like you said this guy was creepy he was like creepy or whatever mhm yeah okay yeah his friend was like and he freak he freaked out well so like your
07:42:02
Brian Atlasimpression though after having met him was that the third date second date what date was that probably like third third um I mean did you get any bad vibes from from the guy yeah he not the friend the
07:42:14
Faithno no no the yeah no the guy that she was yes awful so just so rude so Snappy like his mood would change in a second
07:42:23
Faithjust like total emotional like Whirlwind um he didn't want to have to even though he said that he would drive me home and he offered I I was like oh no I can have my boyfriend come pick me up or whatever
07:42:36
Faithhe was like no I I want to drive you home then afterward all of a sudden he was when he was all wigging out he was like why don't I just like leave you right here on like the San Francisco State bridge and then your boyfriend can come get you and I was like and it was
07:42:48
Faithlike 1:00 in the morning or something or 12: at night and I was just like I have barely said anything I've been like so nice and like like
07:42:59
Faithpolite like I don't know what your deal is but when I saw that mood switch and how like obnoxious and snappy he was getting with me I was like oh he obviously doesn't have respect for her
07:43:11
Faithbecause if he had respect for her and I genuinely I'm very self-aware I genuinely like was not being obnoxious or anything and he can just flip on her like closest friend like that that and
07:43:22
Brian Atlasand doesn't care about her friend's opinion at at all that gives me a really really bad read so after after this experience did you advise your friend yeah of course hey this guy's bad news course but it's but at the end of the
07:43:35
Brian Atlasday like I can advise but at the end of the day it's her business her life right yeah yeah um and you said lastly he took advantage of you because you're young inexperienced and then your your words
07:43:46
Brian Atlasnot mine pretty stupid uh I don't think you're stupid no uh this is a pretty crazy scenario P um you uh I I don't
07:43:59
Edenknow if there's any any other details you want to share about this no I just want to make it clear that like even though my ageg gaap relationship has worked out I don't Nick we can't see
07:44:10
Edenher no it's not your fault that's not like typically like what I go for or anything like that it's just the men the younger men I have like talked to throughout my life all that they were
07:44:21
Edenafter was sex and so I feel like older men have been the only um people that have like taken me seriously and
07:44:30
Brian Atlasregard so you're saying younger men that's they only want one thing in my experience yes I could see that you you've had experience with that Renee
07:44:41
Reneeyeah I'd say especially like um you guys aren't from here but in Isa Vista it's definitely a big culture oh yeah I have a couple friends who go to UCSB yeah it's like well I was using dating apps a
07:44:53
Edenlot at the time and so it's it's rare that you even will find a guy that like is willing to take you on a date he just like do you want to meet at my place come over seriously uh I do want to say one thing though cuz I hear this so uh
07:45:05
Brian Atlasfairly frequently from a lot of women all men they only want one thing all the all men want is [ __ ] I have a quote from the late and great Patrice
07:45:17
Brian AtlasO'Neal I think he said something along the lines of [ __ ] is not all I want unless that's all you got wild
07:45:31
Brian Atlasthat's not my position yo wheel wheelchair kathle think for the gift to 20 memberships I think it goes something like pussy's not the only thing I want unless well okay
07:45:42
Edenwhatever um I would like to think I have a lot to offer we can't okay no it's just we didn't see you when
07:45:51
Edenyou said that oh okay you you have a lot to offer I would like to think so what I mean I have like a career career going for myself and I'm do you think men care about
07:46:02
Brian Atlasthat I think that men want a woman that's driven nope sorry I'm I'm not saying that you don't bring other things besides that
07:46:11
Brian Atlasbut I think one thing that sometimes women will do is they'll think about what they desire in a partner and make the ass false assumption that men desire
07:46:23
Brian Atlasthose same exact traits that they find attractive in men and so when it comes to your ambition your success your money
07:46:32
Brian Atlasyour career achievement your um educational achievement uh I'm not saying that that's bad that's if you want to pursue that fantastic but in
07:46:44
Brian Atlasterms of making yourself more appealing it doesn't make you more attractive to men in the same way that a man who's for
07:46:52
Brian Atlasexample has some sort of uh status or money or um reputation think that's Universal I wasn't saying that I it makes me more attractive I was just saying I have more to offer than just my
07:47:04
Daliahbody I think that everybody has something to offer it's just in the other person to see the value there are broke boys out there there are broke boys out there who want a mother to provide well the first thing you you
07:47:15
Brian Atlaswent to was well I I think you said what you're ambitious your career or something right and then also I'm I mean I hate to break it to you men don't give a [ __ ] generally speaking okay but also
07:47:27
EdenI feel like there are other things like in a traditional relationship that the woman can bring to the table like being nurturing being a mother fig things like that stroking your man's ego I think
07:47:37
Edenthat that is also something that in today's age is kind of rare to find with the Modern Woman and I'm just pushing a back back against this because I mean
07:47:48
Brian Atlasthere's a biological basis for this but just this is sort of a a lie that feminists teach is like yeah men are really preoccupied with your
07:47:59
Brian Atlaseducational achievement your degrees your money your career achievement men it it's good look if you have that stuff
07:48:08
Reneeit's good but in terms of dating it's not an attraction trigger so you would want to be with a woman who's like a high school
07:48:19
Andrew Wilsondropout why would that be a deal breaker cuz I don't know say something have any why would that be I mean honestly why would that be she if she met the criteria because you don't care about the brains of your females you
07:48:32
Andrew Wilsonguys just want subservient that men don't care I don't understand is her being a high school dropout mean that she's instantly going to not have a brain because you're going to college and you're dumb as [ __ ] oh so
07:48:44
Andrew WilsonI don't know I don't know why you would why you would bring that up so I'm just asking like honestly how would that how would that be a disqualifier she's she's not dumb um thank you thank you guys I
07:48:56
Brian Atlasdon't think I think though that as a mother sorry to a child it's important to be educated so that you can I'll I'll actually engage you on this question though so for example I'm 34 I'll date
07:49:08
Brian Atlasand I'm fairly successful I will date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A don't give a [ __ ] she could most women graduate high school so I mean I'll just say she's a College
07:49:19
ReneeDropout don't care I'll I'll date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A aren't you bothered by her lack of like work ethic to continue trying in college I mean that's proving his point that men don't mind probably happy that she works at
07:49:32
EdenChick-fil-A so she can bring him home like free food and everything you know I think that also goes into the type of man that um I'm wanting you know a high value man I think you think a high value here's the here's what's funny you you
07:49:45
Brian Atlaswant a high value man so do you want a guy who's I who's got status or wealth not necessarily wealth but just has something going for himself well okay the my argument here
07:49:57
Brian Atlaswould be the more successful a guy becomes the more status he gets the more money he gets the less he cares about your money right but those type of men want to have want to be able to have an
07:50:09
Millennial Millieintellectual conversation no not really but okay so hold on like have a good girlfriend well here's the thing I I think that maybe don't don't speak for
07:50:19
Millennial Millieall men because there are exceptions to the rule on that like for for example my husband he needs intellectual discussion and conversation he's a he's a
07:50:30
Millennial Milliephilosopher like he has to have that like he's you know and so one of the things he valued with me was he could have those type of discussions and conversations with me and and it wasn't only just a looks thing like he valued
07:50:43
Kishabeing able to have those discussions my dad is have a woman around he can't trust a woman who's dumb to his children right and also my man wants a woman that's going
07:50:56
Brian Atlasto get him out of bed in the morning morning and push him to keep doing things anding that has nothing to do with your academic or career achievement you have to get up out of bed in the morning to do stuff like you you think
07:51:09
Reneethe Chick-fil-A worker who going in at 4 is going to be like get up for your 6 a.m. sh sweetie here's your coffee like no she's going to be laying in bed example of what I was saying I think well no you're making some why be
07:51:21
Brian Atlaslaying I would actually argue I I think you're looking down upon fast food workers these people work incredibly [ __ ] hard they're on their 10 hours a day they're showing up
07:51:32
Brian Atlason time every single day [ __ ] working hard you think I actually would rather I think the the women who work at a fast food restaurant have learned more
07:51:41
Brian Atlasvaluable life lessons than some pampered [ __ ] College chick for sure who a lot of these college chicks their daddy whatever their parents pay for everything they've never even really
07:51:52
Brian Atlasworked a job yeah I'll take the the girl who's actually worked in a fast food environment over the girl who's never worked who's gone to college education I
07:52:03
Reneetake I take I take that and I respect fast food workers no but my point was I I was assuming like this is someone who's like your age and working at Chick-fil-A and she's planning on working at Chick-fil-A for like the rest of her life well that's kind of crazy I
07:52:15
Millennial Milliethink what what a lot of the a lot of the men what if she likes chickf they they don't care about the wom's career as much because they're thinking more along the lines of they would prefer
07:52:26
Millennial Millietheir their wives to be wives mothers of children and I think a lot of men that actually have the ability to they prefer for their women to be able to stay at
07:52:37
Edenhome and raise children I you have to take into account though also his age I mean he's obviously way more experienced than I am and so he's had that where you
07:52:47
Edenknow they maybe weren't as driven and so you know he's told me firsthand that this is something that he wants for you to be driven for his partner to be
07:52:59
Edenbut you're dating him right so he SE are you saying he sees that he's talking about well when we were first dating he obviously we went over what we wanting a partner and but okay hold on now now you
07:53:10
Brian Atlashave to look at Men's motivation and the reality is is that I mean he still tells me that to this day that oh right he's okay men look if a
07:53:21
Brian Atlasguy look there are some men who I suppose genuinely will care like care about your career or whatever educational achievement whatever you also have to understand if a guy if you
07:53:33
Brian Atlascare about that and the guy's like I don't give a [ __ ] about it you're probably going to be like I don't want to date this guy so a lot of men are going to play the game like let me ask
07:53:43
Brian Atlasyou let be honest ladies do men lie to get [ __ ] all the time yeah would would it be in a man's best interest to be
07:53:52
Brian Atlaslike Renee I [ __ ] love that you're going after your diploma I you're so smart and I you know I really I I'm
07:54:03
Brian Atlasimpressed I think it's sexy I think it's so sexy that you're you know you're going after this and you know um I want to support you and I'm not doing a great job with this but bro they're gonna like
07:54:16
Brian Atlasthat's what guys do and they're gonna gas you up and they're going to tell you [ __ ] like that but like deep down I would argue most men most men priority
07:54:29
Brian Atlasit's very low on the totem pole most men are going to prioritize other things in terms of what they find attractive in women like what well me men want support someone to cook for them like I'm going to be so
07:54:40
Brian Atlasswies sandwiches beverages being submissive bringing a man peace not being quarrelsome MH um making his food that's I will say basic stuff when um
07:54:51
Daliahvery simple being at the same time she's 19 so the the men that she's interacted with are very different was an examp she's 19 so the men that she's interacted with and had like you know
07:55:03
Brian Atlasrelationships with or whatever is very different from men that you but the men her age care even less about it no that's cap that's cap
07:55:15
Brian Atlasbecause some of them are know they're going to grow up grow up poor think not grow they're not going to be able to get a good job you think Frat Boys or [ __ ] party [ __ ] Boys in Isa Vista give a [ __ ] about what you're doing with
07:55:28
Brian Atlasyour do you think they care if you're a biom major versus a com major they don't give a [ __ ] I'm sorry it might be that some
07:55:35
Millennial Millieof the guys that don't that are not high earners do see I was just going to ask are you attracted to those men is
07:55:46
Brian Atlasthe question to non-h high earners well yeah unforunately in the past cute but like you're you're also you're 19 right you're in college your earning potential is so delayed that it's even irrelevant now what these these they still think
07:55:59
Brian Atlasabout it we definitely still talk about really the 20-year-old guys are like 5 years down the road she's going to be providing for me like really like these the most of these dudes are temporary let's be honest yeah but I mean I don't know most these college relationships
07:56:11
Faithare [ __ ] coule I will say that um you know my husband frequently talks to me being like when are you going to be done with your Bachelors when are you going to be done with your Bachelors I'm so tired of watching you get stressed I just want you to stay home all day and
07:56:24
Faithdo what you love cook hang out you know hang out with the cat like he genuinely and he was so much more excited when I got my job at the grocery store than he was when I brought home my 4. whatever
07:56:35
FaithGPA for the whatever time this last semester um and honestly like uh if you if you if you really want to just be able to hook a guy like be good at
07:56:46
Faithmaking food I promise you my husband's an EMT when he's working his only 20 you can't be interested in that oh no I make a mean pasta I was good at cooking and I still got cheated
07:56:58
Brian Atlasalso on the on the whole like high value thing so the more money a guy makes the less he's going to care about your money cuz Millie you made a good point well
07:57:07
Brian Atlasyou know it look there is an economic reality here that uh for most households there's going to it's going to have to be a two um two income household to support a family that's just the
07:57:19
Brian Atlaseconomic reality of today so you know the average man it might be more part of the calculus but the reality is like that average man when it comes to the optimum in terms of what he finds
07:57:31
Brian Atlasattractive in women there might be economic realities but in terms of strictly dating and what men find attractive like it's really not like he's going to if he has to pick between
07:57:43
Brian Atlaslike the girl who's got a better personality and more physically attractive but she's not if the here's two scenarios she's 30 years old she's an attorney she's a bit
07:57:55
Brian Atlasdisagreeable because she's an attorney uh but she makes really good money versus dating a 22-year-old who works at Chick-fil-A and she's 1 two three points
07:58:06
Brian Atlasmore attractive than the attorney chick most guys even if he's not a high earner want that uh chick-fil-et chick I mean why why can't you have both
07:58:17
Aliciathough rais the kids huh mean if you have if you're as ambitious to go after a career and if you're saying like he's high value he who would raise your kids yeah we I would but I mean we're we want
07:58:29
Aliciakids further down the line I don't plan on having children until I'm at least 35 so then would well you you would have a geriatric pregnancy and that would not be like the best situation I could
07:58:40
Andrew Wilsonfreeze my no need to hate my mom had me at 42 I mean your mom's a legend rather and all you do is walk around tired by how you want to unive yourself
07:58:52
Edenyeah all that work God how dare I I would rather be in a position where I could comfortably provide for my child and not have to rely on my man to carry the weight you know I mean but what if
07:59:03
Aliciahe would want to yeah what if he leaves right exactly what if he cheats on you if he leaves and you guys are married she would be in a position where she would actually be supported through alimony and through child support yeah sometimes they don't pay child support
07:59:16
Millennial Milliethat doesn't always work out yeah I think that are I think there's a valid thing here like I think a lot of the reason why you see so many women adamant about having careers is the fear that what if the man leaves they don't want
07:59:28
Millennial Millieto be on welfare they don't want to no no no who initiate most of divorces though okay but I'm saying a lot ofat on you think about they initiate divor because the men treat them worse what if
07:59:40
Aliciathey're abusive what what those aren't the those aren't the figures that represent the majority of divorces most women aren't divorcing recable differences it's because and because of cheating a lot of wom the figures you
07:59:52
Aliciacan find them on Pew research in fact Ryan can pull them up I just think it's smart to have a backup plan that's crazy but couldn't you also have a backup plan like let's say you had kids younger
08:00:03
Brian Atlascouldn't you also go into the job market once your kids are older and you'd still be but I'll be burnt out by then I won't have the energy that I do now you just you won't have the energy to have I I
08:00:14
Brian Atlasjust you know as some some fatherly advice here I think 3 35 is a bit you know maybe like mid to late 20s is when you should start pumping them out at
08:00:24
Edenleast 30 32 maybe I I regret having kids as as old as I did how many kids do you want at most two but I mean every person that I've talked to that has had kids in
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Aliciatheir 20s says that they wish that they would have waited I had kids in mys I wish I would have had kids younger because I would have been able to have more and now I like right now I would love to have another kid but I feel like
08:00:48
Aliciathat would be more selfish for me because I would be potentially now um compromising the uh viability of my child M the other value to it is is that
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Andrew Wilsonyou're when they're old enough and and move out you're still fairly young like you're still fairly young enough to chase after your grandkids and do all that kind of stuff yeah I mean my parents had me when they were 40 and they're still yeah you look you can have
08:01:13
Brian Atlaskids when you're older um guys it is getting late I do have to uh wrap things up here let me read these chats and then we're going to wrap up okay uh Renee you've got a lovely speaking voice let
08:01:24
Reneeme have you read these for me all right one more to say say this feminist is definitely an idiot and no one listens to apology after a # me too the guy's life can be completely destroyed he
08:01:35
Reneewants to destroy his channel just to see some nip question mark exclamation point idiot I feel like you read that well thank
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Reneeyou okay evil World body cams hey thank you man appreciate it go ahead M I don't know why people are shocked about the man ghosting women ghost guys all the time
08:01:58
Reneefor [ __ ] reasons and no one complains maybe he quote got the ick like you women like to say no one took advantage here I don't think the guy I mean we
08:02:10
Brian Atlasdon't know his side of the story right but uh given what she said I don't think this guy was conducting himself
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Brian Atlashonorably yeah let's say I I think uh I don't know I mean also bro it's like a that's I'll play it The Sound
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TTS/Background Voiceagain I don't know man that sounds like a lot of work oh that's a lot of work to like how did he finish quickly I'm not answering that cuz like
08:02:44
Brian Atlasbro what okay let's just say like the sex like was 15 minutes that's bro you're going to put in 3 months of work for 15 minutes of pleasure hello attainability to know that he can maybe
08:02:55
Brian Atlasit was worth okay sure it was a conquest though I mean my like my I mean it's the ego myquest patience like I'll give it you know okay never mind anyways all
08:03:06
Andrew Wilsonright um she went in a big book I mean got to fill up the book got to fill up the book we having a gun safe with empty spots right we have
08:03:17
ReneeDaniel W modern Uh Oh Renee can we uh Renee can we have you read this modern age women lack accountability far more than men
08:03:28
Reneelook at divorce women will divorce over the most arbitrary reasons abuse is rare incentivized by corrupt family court systems that are relatively new child
08:03:37
Brian Atlassupport is not quote child support Andrew Brian panel yeah um well I mean child support is well I mean
08:03:50
Brian Atlasthere's there's child support that exceeds the amount of the minimum amount of money that is necessary to support a child and then you'll see scenarios where for example if the man's a high
08:04:01
Brian Atlasearner uh The woman there there's nothing like you know with food stamps you have to like the money the government gives you you have to spend it on food but a woman if if you're
08:04:11
Brian Atlaspaying her child support uh and the child's needs are met uh by say $300 but the child supports $1,000 a month well she's going
08:04:23
Brian Atlasto go ahead and spend that money on you know conceivably she's going to go get her nails done get her hair done that's not child support so I actually this is a men's rights position uh in
08:04:35
Brian Atlasthe same way that with like Snap EBT food stamps whatever you have to spend on food and they track it and you get given a card I think with child support you should be given the card that the
08:04:46
Brian Atlasexpenses have to be used on children I think that seems fair and also there should be some sort of cap I think child support shouldn't be based on
08:04:58
Reneeincome I don't think that's a controversial take Kanye W I don't think any women would be like yeah women should be spending their welfare checks on or like their child support on their nails I have seen a couple wom women like but I don't
08:05:09
Reneethink the exception but no but no one believes that I think think anyone thinks I think the problem is more that the CH children aren't being supported uh we have Daniel W equality comes from the unique differences between men and
08:05:21
Brian Atlaswomen radical individualism and removing shame social stigma has been catastrophic for the West support and praise a divorced woman rather than shame them of the abuse they cause to their children me to of movement
08:05:33
Brian Atlasquestion mark um well yeah there's definitely no social stigma or shame associated with divorce really anymore um so that's probably another reason why divorce
08:05:45
Millennial Millierates are very high I think because it's basically valueless to a secular RIS right exactly I don't think anyone here talked about praising women for divorce like literally nobody well well
08:05:59
Brian Atlasmay not there's no shame anymore like it used to be shameful to to be divorced but there's no shame Rakowski is trying to make it Chic yeah oh my gosh I was I
08:06:09
Brian Atlaswas thinking the same thing good good point okay uh guys this is our longest show ever we broke the [ __ ] eight hour stream Mark godamn there was just a lot of
08:06:20
Brian Atlasconversation um it was great um we're going to let me do my outro here uh I'm trying to think there's oh sorry okay last thing uh really quick I'm just
08:06:32
Brian Atlasgoing to how close are you on your numbers well we'll check that in just a sec um last thing really quick uh we
08:06:40
Brian Atlasalways do this question so body count um does body count matter does body count matter how about this do you object to men caring about a woman's body count
08:06:52
Reneeokay um no they're allowed to care but they have to hold themselves to a similar standard okay yeah I guess just don't be a
08:07:02
Rainahypocrite about it um uh everybody has a preference sorry can you repeat the like I know it's about body count but I can't remember how you phrase it do you object
08:07:12
Millennial Millieto men caring about the woman's body count um no not necessarily no I I agree with Renee yeah too no I think men
08:07:20
Brian Atlasshould have men have the right to care about that absolutely yeah no no okay uh final thing what's your this is
08:07:32
Brian Atlasthe segment called what's your body count decline estate wait um you want to give a range
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Brian Atlasno personally after everything I've heard in the show I don't want to be called a cake no one's going to call you a cake no cakes no one will call you a cake well she declined to answer she declined to answer in it do you want to
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Reneedo a below X um this I don't think I don't think I want to share publicly I'm sorry rule number 76 no excuses play Like A
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ReneeChampion okay less than 10 less than 10 there you go go me okay wait okay that's so okay it could be zero all
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Brian Atlasright yeah I prefer not to stay anybody G to have some kones anybody G to have some kones and answer the question what about you you going to answer I feel like mine's like a lot lower than people
08:08:26
Rainathink because I was a a sex worker what is it I mean it's still pretty high but go ahead uh like 21 okay thank you I appreciate you thank you for Sharon no
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Rainano shame I know a guy with 23 and he wasn't even a sex worker so I know I'm honestly doing better than most civilian so I got to keep my celibacy um that's a
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Millennial Millieconversation for me and my future spouse so I yeah it's between my husband and I but it is in the single digits right I mean this is one of the things where like I've so I've been in
08:08:59
Millennial Millierelationship for 12 years with the same guy I got with him when I was 20 M right so I guess I'll I'll put that out there but like they're all saying my husband
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Millennial Millieknows and that's all it needs to know no I'm not answering remember I'm not answering not
08:09:17
Brian Atlasanswering gustava s he's a virgin um well I credit you for being the one person who's
08:09:26
Brian Atlaswilling to uh answer the question I'm gonna yes that's awesome thank thank you multiply uh whatever your numbers are though
08:09:38
Andrew Wilsonmultiply by three and that's the real number okay okay your turn oh you guys won't share there's no way I'm sharing sorry she shared one wait last time one of us answered a
08:09:50
Andrew Wilsonquestion like that you refused to answer it when it was posted back to you remember but he's the one asking the question yeah I know but last time you you asked the question I answered and then you refused the answer so you don't want to answer the questions that you
08:10:02
Andrew Wilsonask okay but that's the same standard that you just had for us so you don't want to ask answer it either I'm guessing why would I okay I I will I
08:10:13
Andrew Wilsonwill answer it for you if you will then go back and rate your husband like you promised me you were going to do earlier and then you refused to after prom I was going to rate him right so I mean you're the hypocrite you still blame the guy
08:10:24
Reneefor ghosting it's never the woman's fault also what's feminists obsession with talking about a quote man's ego and what a quote real man is oh something [ __ ] unfortunately
08:10:36
Brian Atlasyeah this is a podcast where they're talking about what it means to be a man and a woman I don't understand I don't know what their obsession is with talking about a man's ego and what a real man is I don't even
08:10:48
Brian Atlasknow if that's yeah I don't even didn't really come tonight yeah I don't know if it came up tonight but evil World body cams I uh appreciate all your patronage tonight thank you for all the messages
08:10:58
Brian Atlasreally appreciate it guys um all right let's do the one sec guys okay we are going to oh bedtime okay uh let's see we
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Brian Atlasare going to do a twitch raid Nick if you're able to pull up our favorite Grandma we are going to raid let's see
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Brian Atlasher name is wo wow Grandma 78 she's playing World of Warcraft on twitch and uh Nick if you're able to get
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Brian Atlasthat pull up Go full screen can you go uh full screen I endorse this this is crazy all right guys so uh guys she's on World of Warcraft she's her name is uh we're
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Brian Atlasgoing to raid on those of you on Twitch uh wo Grandma 78 she's 82 she plays World of Warcraft uh tell her she should come on the podcast guys like I said I would say be nice to her uh don't you know be nice if I hear you're being
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Brian Atlasup okay where's my bandaid all right so guys we're going to raid her be nice in the chat uh she's got about 200 viewers right now I like to raid you know some smaller twitch
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Brian Atlasviewers and that should be sorry guys that's going down in like just a few seconds uh all right she's got a dude she's got a dope computer setup there
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Brian Atlasdamn solid streaming setup she has a 20% off G fuel code better than us oh my God all right the raid get out of that should have gone through it should be going through right now uh let's see
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Brian Atlasdoes it go through little wholesome moment here at the end is it going through my little is it going she's I think she's got a stream delay here thank you for the
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