Andrew Wilson vs. Feminists! Scumbag Doctor GHOSTS Her After Taking Her V-CARD?! | Dating Talk #152

Date: 2024-04-15

Duration: 8h 15m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMillennial Millie >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson (alt segment)(guest)

SPEAKER_02Raina(guest)

SPEAKER_03Faith(guest)

SPEAKER_04Daliah(guest)

SPEAKER_05Alicia(guest)

SPEAKER_06Kisha(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08TTS/Donation Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_12Millennial Millie(guest)

SPEAKER_13Renee(guest)

SPEAKER_14Eden(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian asks guests to introduce themselves; reveals notable panel: 21yo married Faith, former OnlyFans creator Raina, 27yo Kisha with trafficked sister.

“"please tell us your name age location and occupation"”

OtherRaina introduces herself as a 21yo who has had OnlyFans for 2 years and is looking for a new job after quitting.

“"my name is Raina and I'm 21 and um my occupation I've had only fans for the past two years"”

OtherKisha reveals she was briefly married; husband put her in hospital; her sister was trafficked and she has not seen her in 4 years.

“"he had put me in the hospital... my sister was trafficked... I haven't seen her for four years"”

OtherRenee says "I wish I was aborted" as a hypothetical argument for abortion rights; panel takes it seriously and checks on her wellbeing; she clarifies it was rhetorical.

“"I wish my mom had aborted me... I wasn't alive today because my childhood was rough"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson argues women should not have the right to vote; argues rights are social constructs enforced only by men. Brian quickly disavows the position on camera.

“"men are the enforcers of Rights... only men should be able to have the stake and the claim to vote"”

QuoteBrian publicly disavows Andrew's women-shouldn't-vote position to protect channel from cancellation.

“"women should vote I'm I'm fine with it not trying to get cancelled"”

QuoteDaliah rates herself a solid 8 in looks.

“"do a solid eight solid eight"”

OtherRaina recounts visiting LA for modeling; her agent had no real license; she received death threats at the model house on her first trip to LA.

“"apparently my agent didn't even have a real license... when I got to the model house I was getting death threats"”

OtherFaith recounts waking up with unexplained dark bruises after sleeping with an atheist coworker she describes as possibly an "Antichrist" type; never saw him again; experience drove her to celibacy and Christianity.

“"I woke up with um like things bruis like bruises and what the [bleep]... really really dark bruises and I don't know how they got there"”

OtherEden recounts being a 19yo virgin who dated a 40yo podiatrist from San Francisco for 3 months; he took her virginity then immediately blocked her on all platforms. He kept a digital Kindle scrapbook of every woman with photos and written reviews.

“"after after we had sex though I I got home and I was blocked... there was chapters"”

QuoteBrian's shocked reaction to Eden's doctor ghosting story.

“"holy F*** bro this is... he had the big book of virgins"”

QuoteRaina discloses her body count as 21; notes she knows a civilian man with 23 so she is "doing better than most."

“"uh like 21... I know a guy with 23 and he wasn't even a sex worker"”

OtherBrian announces this was the longest stream ever, breaking the 8-hour mark, then raids WowGrandma78 (82yo World of Warcraft streamer) on Twitch.

“"this is our longest show ever we broke the f*** eight hour stream mark... we are going to raid... WowGrandma78 she's 82 she plays World of Warcraft"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation, relationship status. Notable: Kisha reveals briefly married (husband involved in trafficking, put her in hospital); Raina reveals 2-year OnlyFans career; Faith reveals she is 21 and married.

Relationship status round

Brian goes around the table asking about current relationship status, longest relationship, how it ended, and recent dating activity. Renee: on-again-off-again (ex texted her that day). Raina: recently single after 2-year relationship with ~40yo adult film performer. Faith: met husband at club in Berkeley. Kisha: was briefly married, husband became adversarial. Millie: common-law married 12 years, two kids. Eden: 1.5-year age-gap relationship with 32yo.

Men play chess, women play checkers

Kisha presents her father's philosophy that men and women think differently: men play chess (long-term strategy, compartmentalization), women play checkers. Discussion of whether feminists in power are being manipulated by men behind the scenes. Panel debates and partially agrees.

Deal breakers round

Brian asks each guest for their deal breakers in a partner. Renee: no passion in life, no style. Daliah: disrespect, disloyalty. Kisha: man who does not put God first; unequally yoked. Raina: mama's boy, porn-watching, feminine men. Faith: passive/feminine men. Millie: not loyal, no God relationship. Alicia: addiction (vice as mistress). Eden: no goals/career ambition, too much partying. Andrew: cruelty to children and elderly.

Porn, OnlyFans, and body count

Discussion of whether prior adult content work is a deal breaker. Raina (former OF creator) says it depends on context; deal breaker is active habit. Panel analyzes psychology: ex watching porn -> Raina started OF. Brian's position: sex work history is 100% deal breaker for long-term relationship.

Abortion debate

Extended debate triggered by hypothetical: Renee says if she got pregnant tomorrow she would consider abortion because she wants to go to law school. Andrew Wilson argues from pro-life position. Debate covers: when life begins (24-week viability vs conception), Scott Peterson double-homicide analogy, financial readiness argument, adoption and foster care. Renee mentions she sometimes does not want to live; panel addresses this carefully.

Who is a feminist (panel round)

Brian asks each guest if they consider themselves a feminist. Renee: identifies as black feminist (intersectional). Andrew: not a feminist; argues Millie IS a feminist by egalitarian definition. Millie: not a feminist; reformed feminist; believes in traditional gender roles. Faith: not a feminist. Alicia: not a feminist. Eden: qualified yes (equality + traditional roles). Kisha: not a feminist; Christian. Daliah: not political.

Women's voting and Christianity — patriarchy debate

Andrew Wilson argues Christian ethics require patriarchy; female pastors are "fake Christians." Millie partially agrees on traditional roles but rejects women-shouldn't-vote. Panel debates whether submission in marriage means husband has absolute financial authority. Millie says husband manages joint account; she trusts his judgment.

Women's suffrage debate

Andrew Wilson argues women should not have the vote; bases argument on: (1) rights are social constructs enforced by men, (2) only enforcers of rights deserve voting stakes. Millie and Renee argue from constitutional/god-given rights framework. Extended debate on whether rights are real vs social constructs. Brian disavows Andrew's position on-air ("women should vote, I'm fine with it").

Military conscription and women

Panel debates whether gender equality requires women to be subject to military draft. Eden says she would be "not opposed to it." Millie argues women should not be drafted due to reproductive role and physical differences. Andrew runs population/polygamy argument. Brian notes he personally does not support female conscription.

AR-15 in bedroom — gun ownership as red flag?

Chat scenario: perfect man in every way but has a loaded AR-15 next to bed. Renee: would ask why; would want it secured away from future kids. Kisha and others: not a deal breaker if he follows gun laws. Faith: depends on context — goofy college kid vs. grown man. Andrew/Brian: self-defense discussion; AR-15 fires small 5.56 bullets.

Self-ratings (1-10 looks)

Brian has Stiffler (chat) ask each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Daliah: 8. Raina: 8.5. Background voice: 6. Millie declines to rate but chat can rate her. Kisha: 4. Andrew rates his wife at 6. Debate over whether self-rating is meaningful or gendered.

Physical attractiveness: male vs female standards

Extended debate on whether women can objectively rate their own attractiveness. Andrew argues women deflect the question by adding non-physical qualities. Kisha argues women gauge attractiveness through internalized male gaze. Discussion of fertility as basis for male attraction to women. Andrew rates his wife at 6 physically.

Hoe to housewife: can promiscuous women reform?

Panel debates whether women with promiscuous or sex-work backgrounds can make good long-term partners. Kisha (Christian): references Rahab from Bible; reformed individuals deserve family. Brian: women can change but men are not obligated to marry them after. Alicia: shares personal redemption arc around alcoholism. Andrew: hypothetical about son wanting to marry 250-scene OF performer.

Raina's adult industry story

Raina elaborates: started OnlyFans at ~19 living on her own; recruited by message. No family financial support. Ex-boyfriend was ~40yo adult film performer; narcissistic/abusive. He cheated; she found him searching for new girls on YouTube. Also recounts: modeling agency in LA; agent had no real license; received death threats at model house on first visit to LA.

Faith's personal story: party phase, Antichrist encounter, marriage

Faith describes freshman year at ASU: feminist/astrology phase, party culture, depression. Describes relationship with atheist coworker she slept with 3 times after 4-month slow-burn; woke up with unexplained dark bruises; never saw him again; describes this as encounter with "Antichrist-type." Became born-again Christian; met husband at club; married at 21.

Eden's doctor ghosting story

Eden (21yo) recounts: at age 19, met 40yo podiatrist from San Francisco on Tinder. 3-month courtship; daily calls; 5 in-person dates; he promised love and future. He took her virginity; as soon as she got home, he had blocked her on everything. He had a digital Kindle scrapbook with chapters on each woman he'd slept with (reviews, photos, profile pics). Brian/panel: he was a serial virginity-collector. Panel reacts with shock; Eden says she dodged a bullet.

Body count round

Brian asks each guest their body count. Renee: declines initially; confirms less than 10. Raina: 21. Millie: single digits (between her and future husband; been with current partner since age 20). Daliah: declines. Andrew: declines; teased to multiply whatever he says by 3. Panel agrees men have the right to care about body count.

Transcript

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Millennial Millieokay French I want bag I want croissants okay no croissants cakes Just Cakes P okay just

Millennial Milliecakes okay so so we have this okay come on now go ahead go ahead we have this okay at the bakery there's a case full of beautiful cakes pristine gorgeous in

Millennial Millietheir own way right and then you have a line of men line want to buy a cake right now the guy at the front of the line decides the guy okay stop interrupting it's kind of rude the guy

Millennial Millieat the front of the line decides he's going to go and stick his finger in each cake cuz he wants to try it before he wants to buy it okay yep so is he is he

Millennial Millieuh being disrespectful more so to the men behind him that want to buy the cake or is he you know essentially being more disrespectful to the cake itself I just one point of clarification he's sticking

Millennial Milliehis finger or his penis in the cake well you could say whatever but essentially he wants to taste it before he buys it right they covered this in americ besides oh I'm going to Great film great film by the way American let me finish my

Millennial Millieanalogy we're actually going to have a discussion here right or is this a clown show okay so the the cakes essentially um are you know he decides he's going to

Millennial Milliebuy the cake that you know he wants for himself but now the next man behind him comes and every single cake he sees has a fingerprint in it and then he decides to take a finger and then by the by the

Millennial Milliethe time the guy at the end of the line here gets to it you have all these cakes that have been just just you know battered and it's not in its original condition not the original so what's

Millennial Milliehappening here is I don't understand why men in society aren't mad at the guys who are going and sticking their fingers in all the C I'm pissed off well I'm

Andrew Wilsonknow why why all women be virgins what about what about all those [ __ ] cakes opening their legs though to like put your finger in

Millennial Milliehere they have a Runway going right towards the finger insert I hear it but but I don't see any accountability on the men's part and I don't see any IR towards it sounds like you're only

Millennial Milliegiving accountability to the men well I say obviously I said I'm against premarital sex are leaders except when it comes to sex right then women are The Gatekeepers

Millennial Millieof bottoms but men usually make the first move on most occasions okay now here's the thing okay but they G us the most actually it's the parents a lot of times they'll say you know women have

Millennial Milliesex to have relationships men have relationships to have sex okay so this is what I'm getting at yeah you have to have to realize that men should also hold other men accountable for going up

Millennial Milliethere and tarnishing all of the cakes because what's happening is you're actually disrespecting by having if you're dating a woman and you're sleeping with her and you have no

Millennial Millieintention of marrying her you are actually tarnishing her for her future husband and you're disrespecting her future husband so you have to

Millennial Millierealize be she would be but where's the accountability on the part of the men as well in respect to other men go ahead should men respect other men I I don't

Reneedisagree with your general like idea definitely like say it Renee say it I don't know men shouldn't be sticking their fingers in the cakes like

Reneecrazy like that they should want to wipe them up but wait what but however yeah this is a fallacious analogy because you can't tell from cake like you wouldn't

Reneebe able if you walk can't look at my cake you you wouldn't know the damn difference look at me and tell me how many bodies I have that wouldn't be a

Reneefous analogy will demonstrate no you you would never know would never know it's called emotional when but they would never know listen man wouldn't

Andrew Wilsonknow no and even if Li he might know he might not know the precise number do you know what a Continuum fallacy is actually what you just hang on what you just did is called a Continuum fallacy

TTS/Donation Voiceit's where one thing is not another the woman posts a bunch of pictures on the internet for men to see what her Bakery has to offer what if I leave a good review dumb

Reneeanalogy you'd have to put the finger like in the bottom where no one can see it wait Millie can you answer this one okay he didn't really what did he say

Reneewho's held responsible did you catch that okay wa you get the you can't see when you walk by a woman you cannot see how many men she's that's but that's not

Brian Atlastrue like no it is true Rene Rene Rene listen there's something called check this [ __ ] out the Thousand [ __ ] stare okay and sometimes

Brian Atlasyou can look a girl in the eyes and you know we're looking at Ur I'm joking there's like a thousand [ __ ] stare

Alicialook some women have it do I have it a little bit not going to lie just kidding it's like a 200 no I'm joking I'm joking so in the analogy why do men

Millennial Millieget to remain like men and then the women become the in aminate objects no well here's what I the reason why I give this analogy for the men in in general right here is because I I want them to

Millennial Milliebe able to think about um should men be disrespecting other men it's not as much about the women the the real analog the real Point here is when the man is doing

Millennial Milliethat to the men behind they're disrespecting the men do you understand it's actually question I'll give you my I'll give you my disrespecting other men well I don't think it's I don't think it's really men

Brian Atlasdisrespecting other men uh one I think women are The Gatekeepers of sex as Andrew says uh women are The Gatekeepers also from my point of view I don't advocate for male promiscuity I'm against male promiscuity now I don't

Brian Atlasknow if I take it as far I certainly don't take it as far as you do uh I'm I don't object to premarital sex but I also object to like hookup culture um object to here's my here's my

Brian Atlasperspective if I want to sleep with a girl I want there to be continuity I want to continue seeing her I want to pursue a long-term relationship with her that doesn't always necessarily lead to

Brian Atlasmarriage for example in my case um so I'm probably not as far along as you like me but I'm not uh as far back as there's these guys who just want to [ __ ] a girl once and never talk to her again

Brian AtlasI'm against that uh if me personally if I if I want to sleep with a girl I want continue seeing her I want to pursue a long-term relationship are you ready for marriage right now in your life well here's the other thing I don't want to

Daliahget married okay so then AR you going around damaging women then just going around making more per you're making more he can still have a longterm

Kisharelation no but you're contributing to body you're contributing to whoredom and destruction one of the cake stickers yeah you're the finger Dipper and then like oh you're such a 304 you should

Millennial Milliehave let me dip my finger and it's like but you promised a long life with me then you don't have room to judge you don't have room to judge the women Rel you don't have room to judge the cakes that have had their fingers stick

Brian Atlasthere's no commit you're doing the sticking actually find new C guys one one [ __ ] thing at a time I can only respond to one person in a Time traditionally men when they slept with

Kishawomen they were removing they were defiling their status and yeah fathers would hunt men down and beat The Living Daylights out of them or shoot them sometimes yeah

Kishaif you slept with their daughter and they lost status or something because challeng that's not the point it is the point no what they would have to do is

Andrew Wilsonthey would have to pay restitution you didn't let mebe but still the fact is you are causing damage and it's a disrespect to a family also causing damage to the male and virginity being

Andrew Wilsonintact was also something which was considered to be um you know inside of society is something that which need to be held intact it damages everyone that's the point it's a disrespect to everyone including yourself and if

Kishayou're going to go around continually just sleeping with people without marriage and then saying oh well women have to stop being 304s you're contributing to the problem you're literally quite literally you hear anything I just said but you said you want a long term but not marriage and if

Brian Atlasit doesn't work out then yeah but there's do you do you acknowledge there's a difference between these guys who will [ __ ] like multiple new women a week and never talk to them again versus a guy who's actually genuinely interested in pursuing

Millennial Millielongm no intent to Mar if you're being up front if you're being UPF front with them exactly I'm literally saying I'm saying it on the podcast mean like you're being I never said you're being

Andrew Wilsondis you're causing harm the only the overarching point you're making is fine I agree like I literally agree with you I I've agreed with most of what you said

Andrew Wilsonwhen it comes to this but but here's the thing thing I don't really in this sense I don't understand why you're negating the responsibility of women whose sexual

Kishavirtue is really important for biblically I didn't I didn't her responsibility I didn't say she was inept mentally and she count like I'm actually speaking more like from man to

Millennial Millieman brother to brother yeah I'm disrespecting other men yeah know but I'm talking specifically what's up Nick everything okay Nick yeah oh okay thought I heard something so are you thinking it's a more compelling argument cuz men respect other men so if they

Kishathink they're causing harm to other men then it might make them they are causing harm to other men they are because on you wouldn't want someone doing that to your daughter or your sister or your mother son or your no but the someone coming a man coming along saying I want

Kishato have a long-term relationship with you I'm not going to marry you but I do expect you to sleep with me and do all the roles of a wife what type of woman the roles of a wife a father would not want that for his that's removing autonomy from a woman that's the only

Andrew Wilsonproblem arum can do my laundry so why would you expect that full commitment from a woman without giving that full commitment with her why is she giving it her choice at the end that's the argument back why is she giving it well if if she doesn't want that why is she

Kishagiving the the argument of who's giving it or who's receiving argument is why are you doing it why do you want to participate in that when you're you're complaining about that being a part of the problem why are you participating in

Kishathe problem why is she you are complaining about the problem she's doing care I'm not conceding I'm not saying that it's wrong it's not wrong I'm saying

Kishait's wrong on both ends but he's saying that it's okay why is it okay to contribute to all of this and say it's a problem but then continue to contribute to the problem if you want to have sex

Andrew Wilsonwith women before marriage I answer the question so if Chastity is important to a woman great if important to again he should react and make his morals based the argument before you cut me off in 5

Andrew Wilsonseconds relax I'm just Rel so here's the I'm sorry so here's the so here's theuse so here's the argument back right you're right that men and women should keep their

Andrew WilsonChastity intact 100% they both have a responsibility to do that women even more so than men because of how valuable it is and they are The Gatekeepers of sex we know this because based on

Andrew WilsonAncestry we can see that men have twice as many female ancestors as they do male ancestors okay you're a man in the relationship so hang on let me finish

Andrew Wilsonalmost done so because of this we know that women get keep sex that's as it should be and yes it is absolutely biblical and yes there's nothing wrong with that and Men also are supposed to

Andrew Wilsonmaintain their Chastity my only my only contention with your entire argument here is that if a [ __ ] dgen Brian and another D no I'm kidding I'm joking but

Andrew Wilsonrelax calm down but anyway and and a d gen woman a little bit right they're both hooking up together I don't see where you can delineate and say that that's purely the

Millennial Millieresponsibility of the man it clearly isn't and the same thing the but that's her argument right okay it's not my argument I didn't say only the responsibility of a man don't put that in my mouth that word well but who's

Andrew Wilsonleaving the finger on the cake this implies that the cake itself was perfect until this finger hit it said the cake has no autonomy right the can't choose if you stick your finger what I said I

Millennial Milliesaid hold on this was my analogy so I want to address this because you're you're you're actually saying that I said something and what I'm what I'm saying here is the reason I gave the analogy was to pose the question of if

Millennial Millieyou think it's okay as a man to be disrespecting other men by essentially tampering with causing causing damage such

Andrew Wilsondevaluation to another man's future the answer is damage the answer is no damage is the answer and the answer to the other side no damage occuring it's also not okay for her doing the same behavior

Andrew Wilsonyou don't so so men don't think that they have to respect other men I do want to add something real quick I literally just said I agree with you they should respect the man they shouldn't be

Andrew Wilsonpulling the ladder up behind him right what I'm saying to you though is it's as much in this in this case the I guess inanimate object of cake which is like a dunderhead woman uh also would have the

Andrew Wilsonthe same responsibility and is also cheapening sex and chiefing Chastity which is way more valuable to women than it even is to men for all of women they they're kind of [ __ ] the whole Sisterhood you know what I mean the whole Sisterhood which

Brian Atlascould keep the Chasity together so that's my problem with women allow I didn't have a question for you are you are you a virin it does make sense are you are you I

Kishatold you that I was she was married married before even was like not to address what you're saying because I agree with you on thata were you marry me stop he now what the

Brian Atlasheck um traditional men approach fathers first so in courtship is he watching the show right now stop it what's his name um that's crazy yo um check this out uh

KishaI don't know I'm going to make up a name for your dad no his name is Dale Richardson don't disrespect him oh that no I was trying call him random I was trying to respect him by not you know no that's that's okay you know saying his

Brian Atlasname just you know no but he's I mean he's all over my Dale Richardson Dr can I call him Dr yo what's up Dr I wish to good job Dale she's got good values I wish to make a

Faithproposal okay sorry this is cringe as [ __ ] my bad I do want to add something real quick so about the the cakes and everything so um oh my God she convinced me qua convinced me I had propos this is

Millennial Milliea really degenerate Bakery we're in right now well let's say let's say the the the the chef of the bakery is like the dad and the chef Chef should be also watching over and saying what if the dad

Brian Atlasaway from my so I did get aard and I was never that's not even that's not I'm going to sometimes like I mean the chef tastes sometimes the chef will sample I'm just saying sometimes the chef he

Brian Atlaswants to make sure the food is came out right he sometimes samples disgusting that's disgusting that's absolutely disgusting that's absolutely that's not even funny I want to hear what she had

Kishato say I thought that was a bit okay I mean the p word no that's not in incest yeah no no that's not funny go ahead okay thank you

Faith[Music] um my bad okay so um my husband and I one time we were talking about this really cool study and I'm joking OB West

FaithVirginia I don't know I don't know the exact source of it um off the top of my head but it was talking about how the more people that um someone sleeps with

Faithparticularly this yeah particular yes particularly this situation women um the less emotional capacity she has to get attached and everything and so I think like you were saying with the with the

Faithcakes and whatnot eventually if enough men dip their finger in the cake there might not be any cake left and it's not that necessarily there's like no value she's horrible whatever it is just it's

Faithit's it's a like a a mental and emotional depletion over time that takes away from from the quality of relationship with with a man or you know

Kishawhoever so cake just stops tting good when too many fingers get in it yeah but that's not that's not even I don't think

Kishadisagree I mean please tell me like get super from you're right I would love to know guys thought no one no one is sign

Kishame up no one is saying that what like I agree with you faith I don't think anyone's disagree with milk I drink it up I'm sorry I never play that I had to

Brian Atlasplay it because food wait hold on let's I I do want to move things along because we're getting stuck here for too long really quick okay so your position is this is the real cake game this is um so you said you wanted to criminalize it correct premarital sex I said yeah I

Millennial Milliethink that it should be a there are if you weigh the pros and the cons um which I really have a hard time finding a single con which maybe you guys could see if you think of a con but the pros

Millennial Millieof what it could do for society would be it would drastically cut down on STDs and especially super STDs y it would um

Millennial Milliedecrease unwanted pregnancies it would um it would essentially do away with this hookup date culture where they treat sex like a handshake it would it

Millennial Milliewould and by decreasing unwanted pregnancies you would be able to have this a stronger nuclear family unit and um by essentially encouraging that more

Millennial Milliemen and women are are virgins going into a marriage statistically they're going to have a better outcome for uh essentially staying together and not getting divorced which is going to

Andrew Wilsonaffect the children in a better way right because we know divorce damages children um so I that's just a couple sounds like sh right isn't that what you're no it's

Millennial Millieactually holding men and women accountable that want to act irresponsibly by punishing their choices would both men and women be held like both of them held criminally liable

Millennial Millieright both men and women or would it fall more both men and women it's not only men it would be both men and women is it a fine I'm actually would it be cheaper than taking a woman on a date I am no I'm thinking

Brian Atlasit it would be be like I'll just pay the 300 bucks [ __ ] it dang well a fine and maybe a misdemeanor and wait you know felony should no I didn't say death penalty what about you could go to jail

Millennial Milliefor a mdem Mee right repeat offender maybe if a guy's like going around and he's got seven baby mamas all on child support don't you think the guy should probably be going to jail for some of that I mean he's causing a damage well

Millennial Milliehold on he's causing injury to the public because now the American taxpayers are having to pay she caused all the damage too though no not necessarily fisel if the if this guy is going around impregnating deportation

Aliciashould should we Deport people we're going to have more welfare Queens you know if should we Deport people for premarital sex Deport people anyone should be deported couldn't that just be achieved through like stigma or returning to stigma rather than

Andrew Wilsoncriminalizing yeah way better way better strategy Lu get me a criminal good there used to be a much was not crime if was not a crime in the 40s it

Andrew Wilsonwas just highly stigmatized and that kept Society together through shame which works well all right that's that was an interesting here's my thing can you think of any

Millennial Milliecons criminalizing anything so wait I'm not you're not criminalizing children going to jail that's not criminalizing children no it's it's

Millennial Millieactually preventing going to be encouraging children to be born in all we're not going to here we it was this was no actually I really want to know what are the cons can you actually

Unknown/Backgroundunconstitutional does it say in the Constitution right we have a right to have sex we have a right are saying that in the constition no do we have it's a

Millennial Milliegod-given right a lot of our do you have a right to drink and drive no because you have the potential of injuring the public I can uh it's listen listen you do not have a right to drink and drive

Millennial Millieokay that yes that is impeding your free will whatever you want to you know try to say but you are potentially going to injure the public therefore they have made it illegal to drink and drive if you are engaging in a reckless sexual

Brian Atlaslifestyle you have a high potentiality of injury but as naville societal Sol work but I'm fine with it look as a as just a quip that's kind of humorous to talk about I

Brian Atlasthink yes but like realistically speaking do you think that this will ever occur no so like let's well how do you know it's never going to happen well do you think that it will ever not with women voting it won't happen do you

Millennial Milliethink it will ever occur that women won't be able to vote Yes no it won't because the women would have to vote to think I don't think I don't think that

Andrew Wilsonwe would suprem cour it's actually more likely only need apreme cour outw there's women on the Supreme Court nowadays women on the Supreme Court who outlawed abortion too let me read some

Andrew Wilsonchats boys boys let me read some chats Brian it's way easier to convince nine people than it is to convince 70 million Brian is why our democra that's why democracy sucks when

Brian Atlasyou when you have cardal knowledge stop stop stop stop stop Brian when you have Cardinal knowledge with Eve you become flesh even without marriage you are impacting your temple and creating soul

Brian Atlasties cool man thanks thank you bro cool story bro thank you Rose appreciate it um yeah sorry I'm GNA you just called 403 guys I'm going to continue is it 304 I'm going to continue uh I'm not trying

Brian Atlasto like you know run through a bunch of chicks but yeah I'm probably not going to stop premarital sex sorry stop the degeneracy I'm a d I'm a d but you would get

Aliciamarried got out of it right you would get married if the state got out of the equation right I'd get married under the current terms if she was rich would you

Millennial Millieget married sign up would you get married if the state outlawed premarital sex if the state made it illegal to have premarital sex would you get married can

Brian AtlasI have multiple wives no I'm just kidding uh would that change it for you well yes I would be more inclined to get married have I would be more inclined to get married if I could not if it was illegal to have premarital sex yeah so

Millennial Millieyou do realize though like drugs are illegal and people still do drugs though right no I do realize that but at the same time it would probably drastically cut down on the hookup culture that we're seeing today where you

Brian Atlashave this is this would be enforcement question like this would be such an infringement on like the the police state necessary well you would know it by if there's a unintended pregnancy out

Millennial Millieof weather though but but wouldn't you have to get rid of contraception for this plan work not necessarily if pull knows could yeah because you could not

Millennial Milliebe able to tell there no way for you to do yeah do anything about it if there both parties were consenting yeah and if at at no point in time did either party you know go astray and and decide well I

Andrew Wilsonmean couldn't one of the parties also not want to like report SAS because if they did they would feel like um they potentially could be guilty of an alternative crime wait [Music] what guys this is great look let's move

Reneeon all right one of the smartest things to said all night uh hold on Mr trol nothing I say wait Rene can you read this one for me uh undercover blonde feminist and glasses are complete loons not actually guys sorry completely

Reneetaking accountability away from woman now they want to criminalize consensual sex they women choose who to have sex with

Kishadummies um can I actually so I I mean I can respond I think I actually take accountability every single time that I say I actually have to listen to my father's advice when he tells me to do what's best for

Kishame and I choose to listen it means I'm protecting myself from doing bad mistakes I'm taking accountability for myself and doing what is right for me so

Kishais a [ __ ] Legend yes he is he's the OG engineer That's What I Call he did he did good he understand though CU we're not disputing that point I'm all I'm saying no but him the the the the sir whoever said that I'm just saying that when a woman puts herself under the

Kishasubmission of her father she's taking accountability for herself in her life understanding that that's what's best for her like I'm not saying that women should not do that if more women listen to their fathers they'd be in less problems wait I have a question for you

Kishaif you were married I assume your father would still have some degree of influence right I mean if I'm married I'm listening to my husband but would you listen to your husband over your father yes yeah yes I mean if if my if my husband told me to do something that

Brian Atlaswas harmful to me then I can't listen to him biblically like what does that mean harmful like if he if he told me like if he told me to like shoot Millie I don't know like cuz like if we were married

Brian Atlasand like you know I should have ultimate Authority and then your dad sounds kind of [ __ ] based I know like how can I ever live up how can I ever live up your dad and your your husband feel like

Kishawould over me if your dad and your husband were in a dispute over your future and they both had your best intentions she was listen to your hus the thing is so all the PE so I'll give an example so the people I've dated in the past like gen dated um they've gone

Kishato my dad and asked okay I'm interested in your daughter how are men talk to each other I don't know I like her whatever can I date her whatever I don't know and then that goes that way I date or whatever if there's a problem that they feel like my they need my dad's

Kishaopinion on since he knows me better they have called him and reached out to him like Hey I would like to understand how to approach your daughter better in this situation and he will talk to him and he's had a close relationship with them so I've never been put in the position

Kishawhere I had to listen to one or the other because they've been in it came were to call my dad if I that them off what's WR with your daughter why doing this my dad's like I get it

Andrew Wilsonshe's been doing this to me too like this is how you fix it I don't know we have AB Che hey dude AB Che thank you man I appreciate it make slute shaming great again okay that is UL it's ultimately a better solution to move towards shame if you want to see that

Andrew Wilsontype of movement in think you can shame women into into like being better though but you can and I can tell you how the same reason you got them to smoke because women are highly susceptible to

Andrew Wilsonpropaganda far more than far more than the alternative sex the same thing exists I was trying to bring this up earlier but if you look at that same program Jones talks about a bunch MK

Andrew WilsonUltra you find what they found kind of studying this is it's like 15% on the front end and the back end are open to suggestion meaning

Andrew Wilson15% you can't [ __ ] brainwash for [ __ ] okay bottom 15% of society totally susceptible to it women are far more

Andrew Wilsonsuggest suggestible to propaganda though than men are overwhelmingly and they conform to social norms far more than men do so if you utilize propaganda even

Andrew WilsonState propaganda works great for this by the way women tend to enforce State propaganda more than any more than any man does and yes you can move through propaganda for shame and if even just

Millennial Milliehaving a switch and Hollywood towards alternative propaganda would do wonders for shame all I say is you should carry that same energ to the men who are being told you it's really hard for to

Andrew Wilsonpropagandize men it's really easy to propagande not necessarily you don't have the evidence behind that I just gave it to you it's called MK Ultra I literally just said it you weren't even paying

Millennial Millieattention just sitting there going is you don't have to use propaganda to carry that same energy yeah you don't have to use propaganda to carry that same energy towards men what how men

Andrew Wilsonhold other men accountable is through Force correct you you want us to go and beat the [ __ ] out of them fine that's wonderful but what we could easily do is just move into a shame culture of stigma

Andrew Wilsonstigma works better than anything why do you think progressives are always trying to [ __ ] remove stigma as part of their social as part of their social agenda remove stigma from lgbtq remove stigma from you know uh women in the

Andrew Wilsonworkforce remove stigma from It's Always a destigmatization campaign because they know how effective stigma is in society that's why they're always moving to remove it okay you had a good point what you were saying about women um with the

Kishapropaganda and they do because they're emotional and that's that's true what I'm saying is though when women go into a bad lifestyle that's harmful to them and they're trying to get out of it for example only fans or something say they

Kishastart learning about Jesus or they learn about a better way of life and they're like you know what this is terrible I want to stop a lot of society will shame them so bad they'll feel like they have no option but to go back into it because people accept them when they're in it

Kishaand they're like oh yes Queen do what you want or that's just her only fans life or whatever but as but they try to like when they come out of it they shame them so bad it's like they can't handle

Kishait you can sometimes you can shame to a certain point but you cannot shame an emotional being into positive progression long term it doesn't work

Andrew Wilsonyou need to show them you show them how to actually solve the problem yes can you need to actually show them you can replace the ideology after it's broken down most certainly and you should but saying that the stigmatization doesn't

Andrew Wilsonwork long term is insane we use stigmatization Works long term all the time for everything for behavior for how you act in class to how you act at home T you act everywhere T you act in a restaurant stigma works everywhere you

Andrew Wilsonsee it applied Everywhere You See It applied it works you mean like people are doing things because they're afraid of the stigma as opposed to their actual ideological Bel corre nobody tells you to get you don't get arrested for cutting in movie theater line you just

Andrew Wilsondon't do it CU all the social or all the shame of the people looking at you and going get to the back of the [ __ ] line it's the then they could use shame they could use shame in place of laws

Andrew Wilsonfor things like drunk driving work when it comes to like people needing to be they give you an additional penalty on top as part of a deterrent however if you had a sufficient amount of social

Andrew Wilsonstigma Against Drunk Driving like I don't know you could probably get a law pass like prohibition which was largely pushed by women and it was largely uh to stigmatize alcohol and yes of course it

Andrew Wilsonworked and it was only uh push back through kind of countering that stigma where it started to fall apart yes stigmatization works it if you had a social Norm that was so entrenched um that you know people

Andrew Wilsonadhere to whatever it is it could be more powerful than a law sometimes social norms can be more powerful than a law you put on the book tradition can be more powerful than a law pic yeah again Traditions can be more powerful than law

Andrew Wilsontoo imagine tomorrow for instance there's a law that said you couldn't celebrate Christmas it would be that would be a tall order right the the traditionalism that you know maybe people are rooted in be more powerful than the law itself it would prohibition

Andrew Wilsonwas a bad example because that one was also criminalized and it failed what prohibition of alcohol that was my but my point was it was a stigmatization against alcohol but it was also but when

Andrew Wilsonwomen were pushing back the other direction then they went ahead and removed the loss and also there was all sorts of other problems with it but there the way that a lot of that stigma happened the way a lot of the men went

Andrew Wilsonwith it is because women would hold up signs and [ __ ] and say things like alcohol that have touched our lips you'll never touch our lips now granted they were ugly women but still

Andrew Wilsonpropaganda but it fails ultimately Tim it fa policy the policy failed the stigmatization did not fail people still drink Al if you if you could shame women

Kishaout of only fans like there' be no 304s you can't shame a girl she has to make that decision a girl can't handle longterm dealing with that kind of emotional like attack

Kishawithout having an actual solution to the problem her real time like she needs when it comes to the lgbtq are progressives trying to destigmatize

Andrew Wilsonthat what hold on look when it when it comes to certain groups like that group progressives want to destigmatized they don't want any stigma towards that group right you don't have to participate if

Andrew Wilsonyou don't want yeah but they don't want want any stigma towards that group right yeah okay why tell me why no you tell me why I asked you I mean I I don't know what

Andrew Wilsonyour answer is okay it's yeah but anyway the answer is simple they want to destigmatize these things because when they are stigmatized people push back they literally push back they go no we

Andrew Wilsondon't want this we don't want that certain parades [ __ ] like that they will push back as long as stigma is resenting something doesn't I'm sorry got to move on culturally where are the fathers from

Brian AtlasBen George uh thank you Ben George not sure if that's an actual question or hypothetical or you know the kids all got

Brian Atlasaborted and parental alien there's a lot of alienation going on you know okay uh we have Mr Travolta shut up about your father you have a father we get it you

Brian Atlastalk too much for someone that listens to Dad I was talking about criminalizing pre maral sex also my DUI question was for the whole panel I forgot what your DUI question was something about female privilege or white privilege but she

Rainaanswered that already I he wanted the whole panel to answer I we could go around really quick I guess a little bit of both do you identify as white yeah I don't know what the question is no I'm

Reneenot white oh sorry what is the question I don't I say actually it is female privilege I I think the the piggies do be giving you some slack as a

Kishawoman okay quick please oh the question is uh is it is it female privilege or is it it's female I

Kishathink or is it both I mean it could be both itend shees identify as white so I would well not for her specifically but I mean like if it was anyone else I mean it could be both depending on the

Kishacircumstances but she I don't know for her maybe just female whatever I'm not really sure for this one female

Brian Atlasum female privilege female okay all right let me get through my show notes here I would like to try to wrap things up relatively soon so I do need

Brian Atlasto get through a lot holy [ __ ] okay uh nalia you are a political correct nalia yeah Raina oopsie sorry it's okay yeah you

Brian Atlasprobably should okay it's all good okay um you said the government is ran by Cult leaders and Aliens yeah yes that was just kind of a joke but oh so you don't actually think

Rainait's run by aliens um I think it's like um I just think it's like weird I just think it's weird that um our food is poisoned but yeah that's all the food's poisoned yeah the American food

Rainasystem big food the FDA just let everything that's where you get you a vegan I'm not a vegan I love meat I like grassed meat though I don't like grass

Rainafinished not Grass Grass fin grass finished it's a real thing you're real big food and big Pharma so all of you none of you are vegans right no so there's some someone have say uh Ben George two scared T

Brian Atlasculturally where the fathers are why might that be wait so what do you want me to ask I'm a little confused where the fathers are why think maybe he wants to go around like and

Brian Atlasfind out Dad okay here let me I'm going to take some uh Liberties here uh going around the table are your parents still

Daliahtogether Jes no into the into the mic

Brian Atlasplease no yes no no no no yes no yes yes all right Ben George I'm changing up

Brian Atlasyour chat here I just don't really know what you want me to to ask them uh going back to you Raina is that sure I don't know I'm just going to call you Gerard

Brian Atlasum sure you said you uh got some hot takes on the adult industry uh you were in it for two months you got the [ __ ] end of the stick and exposed to what it's really like and you said you spoke

Rainaout against it can you give us a quick plot synopsis uh it's kind of hard to put in a nutshell but um I don't know basically I I don't know my personal

Rainaperspective on like pornography and only fans and stuff like that I know people often say it's addictive to watch you know they say they talk about how men struggle with watching it and stuff like that I think um on the other side of

Rainathat like a lot of these women are addicted to making it like I really feel like it's like a real genuine like addiction like drugs too you you were living in a in a house Mel House

Rainaattention yeah I went to this okay so that was like part of the big part I was talking about so yeah I did go to like this uh model house one time and uh so basically my agent was involved with

Rainalike some of the biggest companies in the industry and so like I trusted him initially obviously like don't ever trust anyone in the industry who's a man like they'll just Li your face but yeah

RainaI don't know I just remember like he was like you know giving me what I wanted as far as like money and the jobs I wanted and stuff like that but um I I don't know they have something

Rainaweird going on I have no idea like apparently my li My agent didn't even have a real license and that he was actually working for some other guy and I don't know when I got to the model house I was getting death threats my

Rainafirst time in LA there he said that this guy was after me and that he wanted to hurt me something like that deal with it okay um you let's bring it back to

Brian Atlaswe'll bring it to dating you said you dated a uh male adult star who was jealous of you uh what's the story

Rainathere um I don't know pretty much he did you know that for like a lot longer than I did um did he smash dudes no he never did anything gay or anything like like

Rainawith another guy he he just had like his own stuff like um but I think he yeah he was just I don't I don't know sorry I like no you're fine Mumble a lot here I

Brian Atlascan help prompt you so you said that he wanted to impregnate maybe do split nick uh he wanted to impregnate you and insisted on getting married to you but

Brian Atlasyou found out he was cheating you said you said he was a psychopathic narcissist who is twice your age yes so you were what like 20 I was 19 when I started in so he was like 40 or

Rainasomething he's yeah about 40 and I met him yeah two months into filming and pretty much he just told me that um you know he wanted like the best for me he didn't want me to be involved in any of

Brian Atlasthat and I believed him okay but it sounds like he wanted you to quit the industry and did he quit it with you so we were shooting only fans exclusively together and then like

RainaI know he he like cheated on me with someone else and like shot a scene with them and then like he cheated on you and you broke up with him yes but then you got back then I got back together you got back with him but this recent time

Brian Atlasyou're recently single oh so this is the guy that you uh you said that you been single for three months mhm okay so that's the one this is the relationship the two-year relationship that you're talking about correct yes my longest

Brian Atlasrelationship okay um you're single again after looking through his phone history of him searching for of girls yeah to date to work with with um well when I met him I

Rainaremember I saw him like looking for this stuff on YouTube and he told me like that his it was from before and that his intention was to work with these girls so when I saw it again I just kind of didn't give him the benefit of the doubt because he's already cheated on me so

Brian AtlasI'm assuming his intention was to work with someone else again okay all right and uh you said that he was jealous of you uh you

Rainamentioned the impregnation thing what made him a psychopathic narcissist um he's like a huge [ __ ] he's a really big [ __ ] narcissism no he's abuse

Rainahe's a Nar he's abusive narcissist how do you know he's a narcissist uh I've been watching like a lot of videos from doctors and stuff I have I've been studying like my own journey and stuff like that do you like do you think if

Rainayou watched a bunch of videos from doctors and stuff that you would be able to I don't know diagnose cancer it's not like I was just like oh mental health what is mental health like I dialed in on like what is narcissism and um I

Brian Atlasthink it's pretty uh pretty spot on okay we won't linger too long on that uh you did want to talk about that you can turn a hoe into a housewife did anybody else

Brian Atlashave that as a thing you wanted to talk about turning a hoe yeah into a housewife did you you put that in your notes not word for word but the essence yes okay that's I didn't by the way

Brian Atlaswhat's that you did it too I didn't but I agree oh you agree so would you these are your words but I didn't say ho you said hoe you said you can turn a hoe into a housewife I have to disagree with you here but I'm I'm open think you're

Rainawrong Brian well I'm open to hearing you out so what's your position I don't know I just I think I mean I don't know cuz my ex was a hoe too though so like you know like men have to like you know we

Rainawere saying a little bit take a little bit of accountability you know um should you turn a hoe into a house five not always um I feel like I have like just sometimes yeah I feel like like you

Rainacan't like you okay only a hoe can turn themselves into a housewife really like it hased water yeah but you can't make well she'd have to find a man who's

Brian Atlaswilling to do that and my general recommendation to men my prescriptive suggestion is that's not even the Avenue you go

Brian Atlasdown that's not even the path you go down if she has a past of doing sex work or past of promiscuity that is a 100% a deal breaker go find yourself a girl and

Kishathere's plenty of women out there who aren't promiscuous who haven't done s work mhm go get that girl can you ask for if you're not doing it though like if you're not like if you're if you're

Kishasleeping around or have slept with like say you've like say you're a guy say you slept with like 10 women that you tried to have long-term relationships with and it didn't work can you realistically ask for a virgin because a lot of virgin

Kishawomen who are like conservative or Christian they want also virgin men who have the same mental fortitude that they did so I'll answer your question I'll answer your question so just to reiterate I'm not in favor of male

Brian Atlaspromiscuity however I would say that there is a differential here in terms of the impact that promiscuity or being engaged in sex work for examp let's just keep it the promiscuity has on men and

Brian Atlaswomen now I think they're both bad but this seems to be more pronounced there's a more pronounced impact on women and that's there's biological reasons there's other reasons there's just kind

Brian Atlasof societal cultural reasons in terms of you know uh the reputational stuff but I actually don't think there's anything wrong with for example a guy who was

Brian Atlaspromiscuous making the sort of assessment that well actually the best women to partner up with are women who are not promiscuous we're all chasing after the best we can get both men and

Brian Atlaswomen women want the best man they can get men want the best women that they can get that's fair I don't think think there's anything wrong with a guy who has a pass a promiscuity acknowledging

Brian Atlasand realizing that if for example if he's desires of long-term relationship that the most Optimum choice for him the most selfish choice and I think self

Brian Atlasselfishness to some degrees of virtue um okay I'm not going sorry that's going to derail the conversation uh we're all going to choose what's best for us right sure yeah so yeah I don't object to it

Kishaat all well all I'll say is is like of course there's going to be what's optimal um as a Christian in the Bible uh Rahab was a full-on prostitute she uh saved the well I'm just saying that that's

Kishacool but let's just talk about secular people no but this is but secular person fine but not everybody okay but not everybody subscribes Rel I subscribe to and the Christians who do will also

Kishaagree that Rahab who is a prostitute gave her life to God she saved people from the spies turned away from prostitution and God gave her a family and she had a husband and children Jesus

Kishacame from the line the line of Rahab so can you turn a ho to a housewife if they choose to give their life to God and turn away from sin yes they can and we can accept those people and they can

Brian Atlashave a part of society they need to have that hope that they can change they can be accepted and be better or there's no incentive okay look women can change and be redeemed but men do not need to then disregard their baggage and marry them

Brian Atlasthese are compatible even from a religious and I would say can I say yeah go ahead my one thing is um huh uh sorry no go

Aliciaahead go ahead goad goad Sor okay um I have a bit of a Redemption Arc because

Aliciaof my alcoholism but I wouldn't tell my son that he should maybe like do some the same thing that maybe his dad did

Kishabecause that is suboptimal and yes I made changes but that is is the exemption or exception yeah I'm not saying to go out of your way and look for someone who's a reformed prostitute to marry that's not at all what I'm

Kishasaying I'm just saying that those people have just as equal opportunity cuz if God says they have value once they give their life to God and he has gifts for them that he's going to bless them with I have no authority to tell that individual that they have no right to

Andrew Wilsonhave a family or no right to have children or no find a guy who's willing to do that but my would you tell your uh would you tell your virgin son to marry a reformed prute I will tell my son to marry whoever God tell to marry yeah but okay

Andrew Wilsonso so just to there is obvious hang on hang on hang on hang on relax relax before you start prattling again forever and ever and I can't get a word when we when we move into this okay I just want to know your

Andrew Wilsonson comes to you he's 18 years old and he's like Mom Betty's out down the road who did only fans for three years I want to marry her and she's done 250 scenes and sucked a thousand dicks I want to marrier you're going to be like well

Kishaokay Junior I would as God called you to do it he goes sure has Mom I would tell him to ask his dad about that his father about it talk to Father what do you think his dad would say whatever his father says that's his father so do you

Andrew Wilsondo you do you think that his father would probably say uh no I don't know it might depend if she's given her life to God if she's changed okay well if his dad does say uh no uh then you're going to you know go with that right well why

Andrew Wilsonnot like he's not doing anything wrong by telling Junior no don't go and marry this prostitute even if you think God told told you to that's not what I said I said if someone's reformed and they've

Kishagiven their life to God they're a new person in Christ and they've changed their ways sure they're just as much as a valuable individual as I have every that so I can't tell somebody not to

Kishamarry that person because of their past why not because everybody has a past and Jesus says when you are saved you are washed and cleansed by the blood of the Lamb you're new like that doesn't mean your past is erased it doesn't mean it's

Kishaerased but it means I cannot now treat you like you are a Sin you are not a sin you live a life of sin but you yourself as a human being are not a sin got it then let me ask you this last question right let's assume for a second that

Andrew Wilsonyou're you found out that your babysitter had been a reformed Christian for 15 years and lived a model life but he had molested 15 children would you leave him at home with your children that's not at all would you leave him at

Kishahome with your children he's a new person that's not you have no right to judge his past no that's not at all like the same is consensual the other not the same kill people who do that wait it it wouldn't be your preference to do that

Millennial Millieit wouldn't be your preference to leave them there pedophile no because there's would you with your daughter so you're equating a prostitute to a pedo no what I'm equating to is I'm trying to

Andrew Wilsonsay that you're comparing cons to try to say that because a person has a p it's insane to say that because a person doesn't has a past you can't make a value judgment because they've been

Rainasaved that's L think people can can they can think that and they are you saying that those people can't be reformed whatever they can't I know a situation where so they can't be reformed I know a

Andrew Wilsonsituation where so they can't be reformed all right can they be reformed God says to K you want to answer my question God I gave you God's solution in the Bible can so yes or no can they be

Millennial Milliereformed I gave you my answer yeah you want to answer the [ __ ] question weak can who be reformed the wom you're calling a woman weak yeah how how the real question the real

Reneequestion is can they be forgiven by Jesus no the question is reformed can they be forgiven by Jesus well this is the same question in your Catholic belief do you think that a a pedophile

Brian Atlaswho molested 15 kids can be bro guys guys guys don't let's not even I'm hold on hold no no no I'm just changing the entire topic because you guys reason the reason it is brought up is to test the

Andrew Wilsonlogic of saying can we judge the past I would say of course put him the sword in a second love to say it but I'm giving you examples but I'm also not saying that a person like that can't be saved not saying that a prostitute can't be

Brian Atlassaved but I'm saying we can look at both of their past and go we can make a value judgment on you I can understand that there we can we can judge okay I'm just I'm changing the entire conversation Jud Behavior bed can't abide by the the

Brian Atlasguidelines we provided before the show Andrew you are my hero I've been listening to you talk on whatever for a while now and it has made me consider a lot about my role as a female and wife do you want to quick response awesome

Brian Atlasglad glad you enjoy the show thank you man to the Medtech we have also Mr Travolta here coming in in just a second respectfully first and last day super chatting dating podcast is off the rails

Brian Atlasreligious nuts absent hosts feminist accusing men of looking down tops yeah that was lackluster answers for super chat

Andrew Wilsonquestions uh fishizzle um sorry I don't know this was a weird we're show tonight I not but I think it's because it was really contentious and so when so when chats

Brian Atlascame in we weren't really focusing as much on those as we were with arguing yeah and sometimes look the questions aren't always the most clear when it comes to some of these chats if you know what I mean often times it's best to uh

Brian Atlasyou know make it make it as simple as possible Nigerian scammer Chatters we have Ben George two scare task culturally where the fathers are why might that be and then he clarified culture we live in the Melting Pot of

Brian Atlasculture do you know what culture means no I'm mared sorry I don't know what that means uh then he says Ben George there is Asian culture Latin culture black or African-American culture Native

Brian AtlasAmerican culture there's also dare I say white culture or European culture why would you why you why dare you say that um so which culture has the fathers present

Reneeuh is that I well I couldn't

Andrew WilsonIIA on beh uh you don't want to engage with this one oh I don't no

Brian Atlascuz is it t I don't know if it's yes that one I would not is it I don't think it's to like to just State a stat about yep

Brian Atlasit's t that would stay clear a bit oh hey you know what Andrew he's the adjudicator he's the he's the Arbiter of this so uh you know unfortunately Ben George I think we know what what you're

Brian Atlastrying to get at and uh can we say that there's different rates of fatherhood among different R that's I think that's okay there's different

Millennial Millierates of father doesn't isn't this like a Ben Shapiro like Ben Shapiro says this [ __ ] all the time hey but you could say whatever you want to say on qux the tech company I

Andrew Wilsonco-founded little Shameless plug can can can you go on there can you go on there and be a Nazi you can go on there and say whatever you want to say it's even if you even if you were like

Brian Atlaslike Pro HW you could go on there H you can say whatever you want to say on there really yeah all right here let's move this on you know whether you like it or not free speech is Free Speech uh

Brian Atlasokay we are we were talking to r r Raina uh we're talking about turning a hoe into a housewife yeah I don't recommend it but look you know it's not for the week

Brian Atlaswell you AR for the strong you would yeah you would argue it is for the weak I mean strong men a strong men would not be inclined to deal with that headache that's not always necessarily always

Brian Atlastrue no we men we go into the world and combat the difficulties of the world we don't want to come home to a uh if I can quote Proverbs 21:19 better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and

Brian Atlasnagging wife uh we don't want to contend with our wonder you should just read Proverbs 5 out loud I'm not familiar with you should read it okay well I'll

Brian Atlashave to look it up later but um let's see I'm just seeing if there's any other stuff from you um he there was cheating uh you were dating this guy uh

Rainawere you uh jealous if he did scenes with other chicks um yeah I think it it did eventually uh get to that point but

RainaI think he gave me problems about my first and then that jealousy kind of grew the resentment grew in me because he would do that to me when he said that you know it wasn't fine so yeah I think

Rainait became like jealousy over time but not at first I wasn't I was like really cool and just all right uh so okay we're going to move on to faith

Faithyes Faith here you said you went through a little party phase yeah I did um so I grew up very very sheltered um I was I

Faithwent to to Catholic school did the whole shebang and um and then it I I I went off to my first year of college and um I never I I never really went to a party

Faithin high school except for one party my senior year and I stayed for like an hour and so then my freshman year of college when I went off to ASU I just was like oh my gosh this is awesome you

Faithknow and um you went to ASU yeah I go I goor party school I heard about that yeah um and I was an idiot uh because I was still a hopeless romantic at heart and I was like hm I really want to find

Faithmy husband you know where the perfect places to do that fraternity parties I I feel like you could say something about this too but um but yeah and and so I would go to these fraternity parties and i' would be there

Faithfor like 15 minutes and then all of a sudden I would see like the disgusting Behavior going on and I would just sort of have like a dissocia dissociative moment and like start like crying outside being like oh my gosh this is so

Faithlike depraved and sad and depressing and I would go home and then I would repeat the cycle again expecting a different outcome because I was just stupid how often were you partying um just just on

Andrew Wilsonthe weekends and like maybe on like like Thursdays just occasionally if I finished my homework life is evil you would go to the party for 15 minutes leave and then go to a new party for 15 minutes no no no no so I would I would

Faithgo to a party for like 15 minutes I would get all doed up get ready go out to this party for like 15 minutes sometimes 30 if it was like more tolerable and then I would go outside and I would just be super bummed super

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