Andrew Wilson vs. Feminists! Scumbag Doctor GHOSTS Her After Taking Her V-CARD?! | Dating Talk #152

Date: 2024-04-15

Duration: 8h 15m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMillennial Millie >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson (alt segment)(guest)

SPEAKER_02Raina(guest)

SPEAKER_03Faith(guest)

SPEAKER_04Daliah(guest)

SPEAKER_05Alicia(guest)

SPEAKER_06Kisha(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08TTS/Donation Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_12Millennial Millie(guest)

SPEAKER_13Renee(guest)

SPEAKER_14Eden(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian asks guests to introduce themselves; reveals notable panel: 21yo married Faith, former OnlyFans creator Raina, 27yo Kisha with trafficked sister.

“"please tell us your name age location and occupation"”

OtherRaina introduces herself as a 21yo who has had OnlyFans for 2 years and is looking for a new job after quitting.

“"my name is Raina and I'm 21 and um my occupation I've had only fans for the past two years"”

OtherKisha reveals she was briefly married; husband put her in hospital; her sister was trafficked and she has not seen her in 4 years.

“"he had put me in the hospital... my sister was trafficked... I haven't seen her for four years"”

OtherRenee says "I wish I was aborted" as a hypothetical argument for abortion rights; panel takes it seriously and checks on her wellbeing; she clarifies it was rhetorical.

“"I wish my mom had aborted me... I wasn't alive today because my childhood was rough"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson argues women should not have the right to vote; argues rights are social constructs enforced only by men. Brian quickly disavows the position on camera.

“"men are the enforcers of Rights... only men should be able to have the stake and the claim to vote"”

QuoteBrian publicly disavows Andrew's women-shouldn't-vote position to protect channel from cancellation.

“"women should vote I'm I'm fine with it not trying to get cancelled"”

QuoteDaliah rates herself a solid 8 in looks.

“"do a solid eight solid eight"”

OtherRaina recounts visiting LA for modeling; her agent had no real license; she received death threats at the model house on her first trip to LA.

“"apparently my agent didn't even have a real license... when I got to the model house I was getting death threats"”

OtherFaith recounts waking up with unexplained dark bruises after sleeping with an atheist coworker she describes as possibly an "Antichrist" type; never saw him again; experience drove her to celibacy and Christianity.

“"I woke up with um like things bruis like bruises and what the [bleep]... really really dark bruises and I don't know how they got there"”

OtherEden recounts being a 19yo virgin who dated a 40yo podiatrist from San Francisco for 3 months; he took her virginity then immediately blocked her on all platforms. He kept a digital Kindle scrapbook of every woman with photos and written reviews.

“"after after we had sex though I I got home and I was blocked... there was chapters"”

QuoteBrian's shocked reaction to Eden's doctor ghosting story.

“"holy F*** bro this is... he had the big book of virgins"”

QuoteRaina discloses her body count as 21; notes she knows a civilian man with 23 so she is "doing better than most."

“"uh like 21... I know a guy with 23 and he wasn't even a sex worker"”

OtherBrian announces this was the longest stream ever, breaking the 8-hour mark, then raids WowGrandma78 (82yo World of Warcraft streamer) on Twitch.

“"this is our longest show ever we broke the f*** eight hour stream mark... we are going to raid... WowGrandma78 she's 82 she plays World of Warcraft"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation, relationship status. Notable: Kisha reveals briefly married (husband involved in trafficking, put her in hospital); Raina reveals 2-year OnlyFans career; Faith reveals she is 21 and married.

Relationship status round

Brian goes around the table asking about current relationship status, longest relationship, how it ended, and recent dating activity. Renee: on-again-off-again (ex texted her that day). Raina: recently single after 2-year relationship with ~40yo adult film performer. Faith: met husband at club in Berkeley. Kisha: was briefly married, husband became adversarial. Millie: common-law married 12 years, two kids. Eden: 1.5-year age-gap relationship with 32yo.

Men play chess, women play checkers

Kisha presents her father's philosophy that men and women think differently: men play chess (long-term strategy, compartmentalization), women play checkers. Discussion of whether feminists in power are being manipulated by men behind the scenes. Panel debates and partially agrees.

Deal breakers round

Brian asks each guest for their deal breakers in a partner. Renee: no passion in life, no style. Daliah: disrespect, disloyalty. Kisha: man who does not put God first; unequally yoked. Raina: mama's boy, porn-watching, feminine men. Faith: passive/feminine men. Millie: not loyal, no God relationship. Alicia: addiction (vice as mistress). Eden: no goals/career ambition, too much partying. Andrew: cruelty to children and elderly.

Porn, OnlyFans, and body count

Discussion of whether prior adult content work is a deal breaker. Raina (former OF creator) says it depends on context; deal breaker is active habit. Panel analyzes psychology: ex watching porn -> Raina started OF. Brian's position: sex work history is 100% deal breaker for long-term relationship.

Abortion debate

Extended debate triggered by hypothetical: Renee says if she got pregnant tomorrow she would consider abortion because she wants to go to law school. Andrew Wilson argues from pro-life position. Debate covers: when life begins (24-week viability vs conception), Scott Peterson double-homicide analogy, financial readiness argument, adoption and foster care. Renee mentions she sometimes does not want to live; panel addresses this carefully.

Who is a feminist (panel round)

Brian asks each guest if they consider themselves a feminist. Renee: identifies as black feminist (intersectional). Andrew: not a feminist; argues Millie IS a feminist by egalitarian definition. Millie: not a feminist; reformed feminist; believes in traditional gender roles. Faith: not a feminist. Alicia: not a feminist. Eden: qualified yes (equality + traditional roles). Kisha: not a feminist; Christian. Daliah: not political.

Women's voting and Christianity — patriarchy debate

Andrew Wilson argues Christian ethics require patriarchy; female pastors are "fake Christians." Millie partially agrees on traditional roles but rejects women-shouldn't-vote. Panel debates whether submission in marriage means husband has absolute financial authority. Millie says husband manages joint account; she trusts his judgment.

Women's suffrage debate

Andrew Wilson argues women should not have the vote; bases argument on: (1) rights are social constructs enforced by men, (2) only enforcers of rights deserve voting stakes. Millie and Renee argue from constitutional/god-given rights framework. Extended debate on whether rights are real vs social constructs. Brian disavows Andrew's position on-air ("women should vote, I'm fine with it").

Military conscription and women

Panel debates whether gender equality requires women to be subject to military draft. Eden says she would be "not opposed to it." Millie argues women should not be drafted due to reproductive role and physical differences. Andrew runs population/polygamy argument. Brian notes he personally does not support female conscription.

AR-15 in bedroom — gun ownership as red flag?

Chat scenario: perfect man in every way but has a loaded AR-15 next to bed. Renee: would ask why; would want it secured away from future kids. Kisha and others: not a deal breaker if he follows gun laws. Faith: depends on context — goofy college kid vs. grown man. Andrew/Brian: self-defense discussion; AR-15 fires small 5.56 bullets.

Self-ratings (1-10 looks)

Brian has Stiffler (chat) ask each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Daliah: 8. Raina: 8.5. Background voice: 6. Millie declines to rate but chat can rate her. Kisha: 4. Andrew rates his wife at 6. Debate over whether self-rating is meaningful or gendered.

Physical attractiveness: male vs female standards

Extended debate on whether women can objectively rate their own attractiveness. Andrew argues women deflect the question by adding non-physical qualities. Kisha argues women gauge attractiveness through internalized male gaze. Discussion of fertility as basis for male attraction to women. Andrew rates his wife at 6 physically.

Hoe to housewife: can promiscuous women reform?

Panel debates whether women with promiscuous or sex-work backgrounds can make good long-term partners. Kisha (Christian): references Rahab from Bible; reformed individuals deserve family. Brian: women can change but men are not obligated to marry them after. Alicia: shares personal redemption arc around alcoholism. Andrew: hypothetical about son wanting to marry 250-scene OF performer.

Raina's adult industry story

Raina elaborates: started OnlyFans at ~19 living on her own; recruited by message. No family financial support. Ex-boyfriend was ~40yo adult film performer; narcissistic/abusive. He cheated; she found him searching for new girls on YouTube. Also recounts: modeling agency in LA; agent had no real license; received death threats at model house on first visit to LA.

Faith's personal story: party phase, Antichrist encounter, marriage

Faith describes freshman year at ASU: feminist/astrology phase, party culture, depression. Describes relationship with atheist coworker she slept with 3 times after 4-month slow-burn; woke up with unexplained dark bruises; never saw him again; describes this as encounter with "Antichrist-type." Became born-again Christian; met husband at club; married at 21.

Eden's doctor ghosting story

Eden (21yo) recounts: at age 19, met 40yo podiatrist from San Francisco on Tinder. 3-month courtship; daily calls; 5 in-person dates; he promised love and future. He took her virginity; as soon as she got home, he had blocked her on everything. He had a digital Kindle scrapbook with chapters on each woman he'd slept with (reviews, photos, profile pics). Brian/panel: he was a serial virginity-collector. Panel reacts with shock; Eden says she dodged a bullet.

Body count round

Brian asks each guest their body count. Renee: declines initially; confirms less than 10. Raina: 21. Millie: single digits (between her and future husband; been with current partner since age 20). Daliah: declines. Andrew: declines; teased to multiply whatever he says by 3. Panel agrees men have the right to care about body count.

Transcript

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ReneeI don't I don't get the the mentality of if you have always a reason why someone does something and why would you buy 25 okay if they say that they're collecting them that makes sense obviously that's

Andrew Wilsonthe answer that I needed if they're like I want to go shoot 25 people with 25 different guns then that would if they said that about anything you would be upset it has nothing to do with the object right if they said I I collect pennies cuz I want to stuff them down a

Daliahguy's throat that would still be just as bad right I all they asked me is what I would do and I said i' ask your answer go ahead I'd be the same it's a little concerning I'm just going to ask why do

Brian Atlasyou have that self-defense but the question is so what's your reaction perfect guy strong handsome good income but he owns a single

DaliahAR15 um I think the do I would you no longer date him basically I mean I guess like I don't know he's the perfect guy and he has no

Kishaintention of using that gun other than self-defense so sure why not I'll stay with okay um I I've never owned a gun so like I don't know why it was loaded but if the laws state that like it's okay in

Kishathat state and he's following all the laws for the gun or whatever and I don't mind I actually shot guns for the first time like a little while ago and I like them so um I actually like guns I want to have my own gun so I probably wouldn't question him about it

Faithespecially if it was right next to his bed i' probably just um you know assume it was there for his sure I think it would I think depending on the location

Faiththe context what type of guy he is well like the what type of guy he is if he's just kind of like a goofy college kid who like plays video games all day and like lives in his mom's basement it's

Faithlike okay you know what's going on here but if he's like a fully grown man living in his own place like like you said then it I I'd maybe just go hey you

Faithknow what's that doing there cuz I mean it just the Norms in society now it's been pushed you know very anti-gun in a lot of ways so I think think I've been you know especially this state yeah and

FaithI think I've and I think I've fallen you know prey to that a little bit too where it it is like very intimidating and off-putting but I mean he's if he's the perfect guy that answers it itself

Millennial Milliewhatever I would ask him why he doesn't have an AR-15 no he he does have oh oh it sounds like sounded like you said he just had a handgun by his bed I said why don't I

Andrew Wilsonwould say why don't load are you bi are you biased against the AK-47 what said he want he had the AK-47 let's go to the shooting range let's have some fun what if it was the AK instead of the AR

Andrew Wilsonthough you got to weigh in on the debate what if he was like I like the AK-47 that 762 x39 has way more hitting power it's way more reliable [ __ ] ARS Jam

Andrew Wilsonall the time you know I just don't like those I want that good Soviet AK-47 actually you know my husband likes to have me armed with a double barrel shotgun that way I can't miss you got

Edenthe Biden thing going the double barrel yeah it's a double barrel um it sounds similar to when I met my husband and I didn't have a problem with it um I wouldn't have a problem with it

EdenI plan on having my own gun one day but if we did have kids together I think that it would be best if we had it in a safe yeah I mean that's one thing I will say as a mom with kids I I do take into

Andrew Wilsonconsideration like you have to be safe with with kids in the home absolutely you just train them to use them then they keep them under their beds you have get up in the morning so many way they kick in the door the kids take care of

Brian Atlasit you can sleep in for the time Stamper here we are coming back to the rating 1 to10 question we got stuck with you you seem to have not wanted to uh I think

Brian Atlasthe TTS about the R15 came in while we were talking about this I said the audience can rate me if they want oh no I think well you were sort of it sounded like you were objecting to this question to some degree uh why is

TTS/Donation Voiceit I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $200 Jesus this is why I'm losing my [ __ ]

TTS/Donation Voicerights 19 handguns are for defense in public shotguns are for home defense and our 15s or assault rifles are for when tyranny is present well they're not assault rifles it's ArmaLite but fair

Brian Atlasenough Point okay um so going back to uh stiffler's thing I was just a little confused what what exactly kind of is your objection again with with the look

Millennial Millierating looks on the scale of 1 to 10 thing I think because I think the subject here is very much around dating and how people view themselves when

Millennial Milliethey're dating and because I I never really was taking into account what my physical looks were when I met my husband and I wasn't taking into account

Millennial Milliehis physical looks either none of that really was an equation for me and so I wouldn't I don't think along those lines so Andrew you might have missed that I

Brian Atlaswas asking her when you know with her she's married uh when you first met him and I asked uh you weren't even considering looks at all even a little

Brian Atlasbit it wasn't even a you know weight height no facial symmetry nothing so are you not physically attracted to your husband I'm a bit confused no I'm attracted to him yeah okay what are the

Millennial Milliequalities that make him attractive physically well he's very intelligent no physically oh physically MH well here's the thing I've I I have went

Millennial Millieon dates before with with guys who would you would Define as like a physical model and I've been completely unattracted to them and bored with them

Andrew Wilsonso for me attraction actually is very much based on how I feel with them and whether or not they stimulate me intellectually intelligent men attct to

Andrew Wilsonintelligent my wife one of the things that she does all even annoys my chat things like this all she does is talk about how stunningly gorgeous I am which is in no way shape or form true but

Andrew Wilsonshe's very kind to do it okay okay but what she does is she'll say this I like this quality I like that quality I like this quality she tells a story about how when we met and she opened the door she heard Dream Weaver in her head right the

Andrew Wilsonwhole nine yard speaks very very highly of me from the perspective of the husband he's sitting at home watching you right now right and he's like I can tell you

Andrew Wilsonsome things I like what's the physical qualities nice smile and he's he's got you know I guess pretty colored eyes I don't know but that's that's all your physical so just no physical attraction

Millennial Millieat all that doesn't matter at all physically attract I'm attracted to him but it's not it's not one of those things where like I'm I'm not shallow in

Millennial Milliethat I will dismiss somebody if they don't look like a certain thing I'm after like for me like I said I will I will dismiss somebody if I think that

Millennial Milliethey're stupid or if I think I don't respect them or if I think that they're mean or arrogant or condescending I will I will not be attracted any bit of uh

Millennial Milliephysical will be gone if I if I you know if there's personality issues or if I see that that person is yeah I get it but the the reason that this is asked as

Andrew Wilsonwe're purely looking at the physical end of it which you you would agree is super important for maybe not you maybe you're the one exception to this rule I've ever

Andrew Wilsonfound but most everybody has some kind of qualification for physical tress even you must like for instance you wouldn't debate or or you wouldn't date a guy who's 900 lb right that would be yeah I

Andrew Wilsonmean you're probably right I probably wouldn't want probably wouldn't want it so there are some physical barriers when we're looking at that we're saying what you would consider those physical

Andrew Wilsonbarriers there you could kind of um assume What men's physical barriers may be and based on those how would you rate your physical looks to

Millennial Milliethat I'd have to ask the men I've heard different things from men as to what they think I look your perspective of what you think men would think how men have have thought about me what they

Millennial Milliethink my number is yeah well I think it's probably obviously I'm 33 right now so my number's probably gone down sure right when I was younger a lot of men I

Millennial Milliealways was just con constantly being approached by almost every man I was coming into contact with but um I mean how much do men just say to women you're gorgeous you're beautiful

Andrew Wilsonyou're stunning you're this all the time and that's just not just them saying yeah I agree with all that I'm just saying based right now you're 33 how you look right this second how would you perceive that most men most men would perceive you on a scale of 1 to 10 10

Andrew Wilsonbeing the highest for physical attractiveness zero being the least 1,000 lb JS out to he zits all over the face right right right where are you at in that scale I don't know that's why

Andrew Wilsonyou had to guess men are visual creatur let's just say you guessed if you had to guess if I had to guess had to guess yeah I don't know I already told you I think we should let the you don't know

Andrew Wilson (alt segment)how you don't know a guess well I know that my my husband would say he probably thinks I'm a 10 yeah I know you okay but what do I think yeah yeah all right I'm going to just move on go ahead I don't

Brian Atlasknow I would say like a six or a seven same okay all right Andrew four four okay I give myself a five twin five all right there you have it there you have

Brian Atlasit folks I have a maybe a quick throw out here actually let me read this chat really quick glad I tuned in tonight instead of a bunch of 304 we have a based

Brian Atlas306 no [ __ ] idea what the 306 is but come back to S South Korea SK we need more women like you SK is that Saskatchewan sir oh oh yeah oh I think

Brian Atlashe's you're say he's saying your base maybe 306 because it's north I don't know I don't know what's a 304 I definitely an area

Brian Atlascodee definitely and goty supposed to be never mind one one question related to the rating thing does anybody here think they're going to be more physically attractive in 10

Brian Atlasyears as compared to how you look now all all else being equal does anybody here think they'll be more physically attractive in 10 years time starting

Rainawith you go ahead no no I mean no objectively probably not um I don't know realistically societally

Faithprobably not okay I I don't know but going by the typical pattern of things probably

Brian Atlasnot no no I think so I think that your 30s are your Prime yeah oh okay all right what about uh let's go 10 years in

Brian Atlasuh Ford well hang on okay sorry yeah yeah uh so 20 years from now you are uh 21 right yeah uh okay so are you going to be more physically attractive at 41

Brian Atlasas compared to now at 21 all else being equal uh no at 41 I would not be okay so you think you'll Peak early 30s basically looks wise right yes all else

Andrew Wilsonbeing equal yes okay oh okay you had something Andrew I did so do you think that attractiveness between men and women is tied to

Andrew Wilsonfertility you think that would be a good reason for why men would find younger women to be attractive is because younger women have high fertility I think that that's part of it

Andrew Wilsonyes not in all cases really what would be the other case besides a fetish well so that was that was pretty much so that's that's like if you're going to

Andrew Wilsonif you're going to introduce like lunacy to it like fetishes or or something like this sure but generally speaking wait can you say the question again like since

Andrew Wilsonsimplified again sorry yeah so don't you think that uh what is considered attractive between men and women would often be tied to fertility I mean there's that argument for sure but um

Kishawhen I ask my father about it he tells me that uh he bases it on a woman's uh relationship with God her spirituality as well as her intelligence because he needs to be able to trust that woman to raise children with him well I wish your

Andrew Wilsondad was sitting where you are because if I said the woman had all of those things but all things being equal you had to pick between one who was a four and one who was a 10 and both of them had all those same qualities which would you pick your dad would say the 10 well he

Andrew Wilsonsaid circumstantially it depends on what that woman is capable of doing and I just said that they have the exact same values just one's hotter than the other would you would you pick would you pick

Andrew Wilsonaye old 10 over your wife no of course not okay why because of the value distinction okay that well I think that's that makes that literally makes

Andrew Wilsonno sense what you just said my question to her was they have the same values you say what about the distinction of values it makes no sense to my question the values are identical if the values are

Kishaidentical maybe a man would prefer the one who's more attractive who has the exact same values and why would they prefer the one who's more attractive I mean that's I'm not a man that I should answer that

KishaI just all I'm saying is that wait wait why would you have to be a man in order to answer that cuz it's circumstantial like I said it's not circumstantial the human race must survive right can I finish what I'm saying sir please well I

Kishame can you make it quick can you make it snappy well I could have been done if you didn't inter no I can't so anyway can you make it quick what I'm saying is like I said um I've asked my father the same questions and what he delineates to

Kishame is that it's circumstantial based on what he's compatible with that woman what she's capable to do with him in a relationship in raising children having a home uh having a relationship with God and things like that it's not just on

Andrew Wilsonattraction alone and he would take so I know we know this but I I don't understand why you're incapable of engaging with this you don't have to be a man in order to engage with the idea that of course men are going to be

Andrew Wilsonattracted to women who are more fertile and on top of that I gave you the equation of same value structure that your dad would like woman whose four has it woman who's 10 has it you say he'll pick the woman who's 10 I say great if

Kishayou'll pick the woman who's 10 why you go I'm not qualified to answer that that's crazy I'm saying that I you you said okay I said that if the attraction was 10 and four maybe he might pick the

Andrew Wilsonone who's a 10 they have the same values because maybe he might be whatever but youever and that's not what I whatever is the question do fertility the

Andrew Wilsonwhatever is the question because of our biological wiring right so the question is the whatever part why would he be attracted to the 10 over the four even if they have the same values other than

Kishabecause I can't answer that for him because he he doesn't answer questions like that he literally doesn't answer questions like that do you value do you value them and love them based on how

Millennial Milliephysically beautiful they are no of course not why because I'm looking at the value structure of the human being so do you think God judges and values

Millennial Milliethe women his daughters based on 1 through 10 of how they look no no and what does it say in the Bible about what does that have to do with what makes a man's dick hard lady what does that have

Andrew Wilsonto do with what makes a man's penis go up what does what God values in a woman or a child or what you value about Sin

Andrew Wilsonand lust no I'm talking about physical attractiveness okay that's what you're talking about I'm talking about phys IAL attractiveness you do realize in order to have a baby you have to have sex yes I know but it also says b you're

Andrew Wilsonsupposed to be Christian penis required to be hard for you to have sex would that require an attractiveness level so that the penis can get hard to have sex to have the baby but how

Millennial Milliedrinks I don't think I I really hope the the future your future son-in-law I really hope your future son-in-laws don't treat your daughters the way you Tre and think about women I'm pretty

Andrew Wilsonsure how do I think abouten fathers virtuous women of proverbs 31 can you can you help me out how do I Think About Women by saying that there's going to be a physical metric for

Andrew Wilsonattractiveness how is it that I'm in any way deviating from any type of Christian virtue tell me I mean you never the way you're talking about women in the way

Kishayou're talking about talking about fertility being the standpoint rather attractiveness yeah but proverbs 31 mentions a whole list of things as opposed to simply just fertility so God

Kishasays and man a man wrote that strictly talking about physical attractiveness and that's it but that's not what men decide that's well at least my father told me that that's all that he makes

Faiththe decision on when he's talking about a woman I think what he's saying is that say that there are two women that both fulfill the proverbs 31 things but one is less physically attractive and one is

Faithmore physically attractive which would the man go with say he wasn't married or anything I can't say that he'd pick the 10 because I don't know what the 10 looks like and I don't know what the four looks like I don't know what the preference is the 10 physical attraction

Andrew Wilsonsome ungodly like me attraction means nothing all that matters is what the virtues are we all go get 9,000 PB what you know what I mean it's just crazy we're talking specifically about physical attraction of course it's going

Kishato be tied to fertility of course it's going to be tied for T why wouldn't it be you're asking me to Think Like a Man and I don't I'm not I'm asking asking me females are highly competitive with other women when it comes to I know what a man's going to prefer mentally and

Kishayou're asking me to answer a question like a man what one would a man prefer how would I know that do you have to compete do you have to compete with other females for virtuous men maybe but I'm a female I think like

Andrew Wilsonhow would you know what a how would you compete with other women how would you compete with other women for a virtuous man I would ask my father what a man would want do you think your father would say do you think your father would say well looking like [ __ ] would be the best thing you could do no that's

Kishaobviously but that doesn't mean that all I'm saying is it's not like the only thing but you can't sit here and ask the only thing how a man thinks is the best thing they're not going to you're not going to

Reneeget that response out of them there's a group of women MH like they're not going to be thinking like women don't compete with each other but they do not think like men what's your what's your point because I I I I agree with your argument

Andrew Wilsonokay fertility plays a part in sexual attractiveness whatever what's what's the what's the point the whole point of this was just to state that yes we understand that there's virtues that men are after of course that's true there's

Andrew Wilsonvirtues that women should be after but nowadays it seems like less and less but men I think do are attracted to Virtue I think that is a big role really but if we were to take have you seen the rise

Andrew Wilsonof only fans it's pretty bad but if we were to take virtue if we were to take virtue out if we were to take virtue out of the equation and just look at the pure physical and just look at physical

Daliahattractiveness we're not looking at all the virtues this and that just whatever is aesthetically pleasing that's all we're talking about physical attractiveness I me at the end of the day like any human being is going to

Daliahevalue Aesthetics you're going to choose the better looking car the car the car might be might have the same engines it might do the same exact thing but are you going to choose the one that's all scratched up or you going to choose the

Daliahbrand new shiny one at the end of the day you want to pretty rock over a cracked up one so if you're asking that like it's just human nature to well this

Andrew Wilsonis why I think I think when this question is asked of women in particular when they refuse to give a rating it's because they don't want to be honest and so what they do is they reframe every way that they can but what about this

Andrew Wilsonquality this quality that quality that quality and it's like look just talking about physical attractiveness in and of itself I understand there's other qualities and maybe even combining those with physical attraction May raise it a

Andrew Wilsonpoint lower it a point but I think people still when it comes to physical attraction it's still tied to fertility that's why men are attracted to younger women why wouldn't that be the case it makes complete sense so I don't understand why women are incapable of

Millennial Millierating themselves unless they just don't want to give the answer they because it's a matter of how what do the men perceive as as beautiful or attractive and and that

Millennial Milliecan vary from man to man and then like like Kaa was saying you're asking us to kind of think along way I don't think women are ignorant to this I think that women have a different probably standard

Andrew Wilsonfor what they think is beautiful ATT men like I think that women would your probably judge looking attil you would have to look at the

Andrew Wilsonstandard on both edges so for you to perceive the beauty of women there's no way for you to say that you wouldn't be influenced on how men perceive women I don't see how that's I would be of

Kishacourse you would so I don't think women are ignorant of this I asking a woman asking a woman to delineate that information asking her to behave like a saying most women you're asking her to be a feminist right now not asking her

Kishato be femin because asking her to delineate the information that a man would tell a woman is asking her to be a feminist and think like a feminist a woman is not going Tois Doan a woman is not going toess herself the way that a

Andrew Wilsonman assesses a woman didn't ask him to you just asked her I asked her to rate herself based on what she thinks okay then that would be the opposite of what I'm asking her what men think I'm saying

Andrew Wilsonthat men have standards yes know men have standards because men have because men have standards that is going to inform your opinion on how you rate yourself fine but they're not going to think of it the way that a man would so

Daliahshe you asking her to rate herself based on what she thinks okay herself that's different than to what a man yes I know which is why we asked her that I mean beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Daliahlike at the end of the day it so you can say you're a 10 you can say you're a one it doesn't really matter because everybody has a different view on it so at the end of the day it doesn't matter

Millennial Millieso the question that you're asking is it just doesn't matter in our minds one guy could could rate a girl as a seven and another guy could rate her as an eight and another guy could rate her as a two

Millennial Millieand another guy could rate her as a nine and it depends on what that guy finds attractive but wasn't it asking what we thought of ourselves yes I I think it's to yeah but then for him to say that

Andrew Wilsonit's not realistic in the eyes of men so the point I'm just saying that your self assessment will be informed also by men that's the point I think it also shows do you are you affected by delusion yes

Aliciayes to just pretend it does not exist and that oh I no one said it didn't exist don't know that's not the but like when people hyper conflate their looks

Aliciawell then they would also expect to make possibly um match with somebody who they think are their equivalent but if you're honest with yourself then you're going to match yourself and not have this

Kishahyper conflated idea of what you're going to go after that's understandable I agree with so that's why they're trying to just gauge a sense of delusion yeah I understand that but there was a mention of a man's perspective and

Andrew Wilsonthat's all that I said was not the mention of a man's perspective was to say how you end up ultimately determining what your value is 1 through 10 and it's arbitrary nobody says it's

Andrew Wilsonnot is at least somewhat going to be informed and how the opposite sex perceives you and what you've witnessed the opposite sex considering to be attractive or unattractive that's what's going to be true because that's how

Reneeinformation your brain works internalized male gaze as said by someone on the right no it's not an internalized yeah it is you just argued that we we look at ourselves through the man I'm saying that we look at no I didn't yes you did you said how do you

Andrew Wilsonknow you're attractive if you don't use it can assist you in making an informed self assessment but the same would be true the opposite way so is that an informed female gaze yeah okay so there's a female gaze too okay so then if that's the case then we're talking

Andrew Wilsonabout nothing we're just talking about objective reality I know but some people argue that the male gaze doesn't exist so well it depends on how you're defining internal if you just Define what the male gaze you have concurred with me that women have internalized

Reneeperception of what men think well it's going to help inform it there's no way around it you know earlier when you asked me what disadvantages me when I'm born a woman that okay but instantaneous have to wake up in the morning and do my makeup pretty why did you just say

Reneebecause I have an internalized you said that men suffer from the same thing which means that again you just negated your own points but the the one for men men value fertility much higher than women do do you see men doing their

Reneemakeup so they look more fertile women yeah women do because the internalized male gaze is way stronger than the internal F gay let prove it I just did how women do makeup women dress way nicer women do their nails wear nice clothes and they try to get high status

Reneeand they try to get tons and tons of money and they try to do all those things that's that's the female Gaye is money and there are so many I don't understand how it's not listen to this because of the feminist because of the feminist movement all these days women

Reneewill go for ugly broke men but men are not going for ugly women obviously they're what women are going for ugly broke men what women are out there going for ugly broke men almost none the ones

Reneewith no dads that's not what the stat like you so you go for ugly broke men for real yeah my ex my ex yeah I I'm not ashamed at but what I'm my point was as someone on the right you admit that

Reneewomen have a male gaze inside of them they can they can see how men what I'm saying is that every they internalize thech and that internalization is already I'm saying is that every human being who

Andrew Wilsonexists regardless of where they're at in the world if there's other human beings who are around them it's going to inform their opinion of themselves and their opinion of the surrounding but one of them is the full standards of the male gender that's I but that would be true

Andrew Wilsonthe opposite way too which would make you a misandrist no it is true the opposite way but I'm saying that the male standards are so much higher than the female standards prove that I that's deviate where's the proof for that claim

Faithokay I will say that a lot of males know where's the proof to that claim speak I will say that a lot of male standards are very looks based because the fertility in importance is much higher

Faithin in women you know because they're the ones that are carrying a child and so when that that sort of standard lapses when as they get older and everything then it's then it's like okay my value

Andrew Wilsonjust boom but men because it does go boom no exactly and for men it for men for men it doesn't because yeah but it's a trade because iner ages for

Andrew Wilsonmen they don't have as much power in order to attract their mate so it's a trade off both ways so to say that it's more keen in one than the other you'd have to demonstrate that to me it's just I think and you have to demonstrate it to me the opposite way I think it is

Andrew Wilsonmore confining when it's I actually wouldn't I wouldn't need I would need to falsify it I would just negate it do you think that men only

Millennial Milliepick women to be with or marry based on how how high they are on that 1 through

Millennial Millie10 numbering system no so why why is that so important in because I suspect that men who enter into matrimony with a

Andrew Wilsonwoman want to have children and in order to do that they have to be able to perform in the bedroom and in order to do that they have to have some semblance of attraction to the person they're

Millennial Milliehaving sex with do you agree or disagree well yeah well yeah so I don't understand why you ask but we're not talking about every like every guy isn't going to marry a 10 every girl isn't going to marry most guys are never going

Millennial Millieto marry a 10 and most women are not tens to marry so okay so so why use that value if that's not the only thing that people are going to judge when they're choosing

Andrew Wilsona life partner why is that so important we're not saying that's the only value we're asking specifically only on the one criteria of the physical not saying

Andrew Wilsonthat other values don't exist tens of thousands of other values exist all sorts of little nuances and niches exist for different behaviors that you're

Millennial Millieinterested in we're purely talking about rate your wife 1 to 10 then uh okay as soon as you rate your husband 1 to 10 no rate your wife as around you didn't want

Millennial Millieher to answer question and you're going to answer the question you went around and you want all these women to rate themselves right so rate your wife on pure physical on pure physical attractiveness at her age my wife wife

Millennial Millieis about six now rate your husband I would do it your turn I yeah I don't that's right no I told you I don't use distinction

Millennial Milliebetween distinction between honesty and a liar ladies and gentlemen physically on physically only not on my not on My

Andrew WilsonATT only physically yes that's what the rating skill is do it I just did do it you can't do it

Andrew WilsonI'm not doing that right you're not Fu totally dishonest demands it from me refuses to say it you're the one setting the standard my wife's literally watching it guarantee she's not upset at all but you can't answer the question

Millennial Milliehonestly I think it's a disrespectful question why cuz I I think because it's true that's her own values if she doesn't want to answer she doesn't right but demands that the other person does yeah because you're the ones saying

Millennial Millieyou're the one asking a table full of women to rape themselves so wait second I'm asking a table full of women to make a self assessment based on pure physical qualities and you say this is an

Andrew Wilsonimpossibility to begin with okay we'll Grant it but then you said fine I'll call you out rate your wife okay I did rate your husband no no I'm not going to rate it it's [ __ ] pathetic it's not pathetic is pathetic I think it's

Andrew Wilsondisrespectful so I would be a hypocrite to then rate onp you're a hypocrite now because you made the demand you yourself won't fulfill right because my point is disrespectful and I think the fact that you do you not know rating your wife

Andrew Wilsoneven with that is of disrespectful why is it disrespectful do you think how do you think she rates herself do maybe she rated herself this way 15 times and I'm using her rating well I think that's sad why because you should probably rate her

Millennial Milliea 10 she's your wife why do you rate yourself cuz you ain't as good-look as she is honey okay well that's fine that's your opinion not necessary it is

Kishanecessary this is this is exactly why I said like the rating the question of yourself was from a man's perspective a woman's not going to answer the way that you want her to because in the end the conclusion that you're coming to is not

Kishawhat they're calculating so it's already an unfair it's not unfair it is it is unfair then how come men how come men can make those self assessments then no I'm not talking about because what you're asking right now the line of questioning that you're going down that

Kishathe end result is completely different to what is being discussed amongst the ones that the women that are answering and even what you mentioned coming down to oh the delusion or whatever it's like that's not what they're even thinking

Kishaabout the question is not who's not thinking about that the women answering when they're like oh what are you rating yourself they're not thinking about oh well am I delusional you just ask what you think about that and I'm not I'm not

Kishahey I said four I could care less but the fact I am a four so if you get a six that's going up right that's good yeah but the fact is what you're looking the answer for they're not they're clearly

Kishanot thinking and what's being displayed very clearly here is chess versus Checkers just like I said at the beginning you're the outcome that you're looking for is not What's Understood in the initial questioning or the response

Aliciafor well what you uh mentioned about you know uh the delusions and you no I'm saying that that's why they asked that question I understand that's why they for anything I just answered the question I wasn't posing it was a correct it was a correct answer I

Kishaunderstand that's where it was going but I'm saying that that's not what's understood in a woman's mind when you ask what are you rating yourself and why that's not what it that's that's exactly what I don't I don't so this the that's

Andrew Wilsonthe the whole argument here is nonsense no it's not you're what you're saying the argument is is nonsense what tell me what could possibly bar you from giving

Andrew Wilsona self self assessment on what you think your is for attrac different than the outcome that you're that's that's a distinction with

Andrew Wilsonno merit what's barring you answer what's bar no they didn't but what's barring you from giving in a assessment of your own personal attractiveness nothing everyone gave an assessment of personal attractiveness save Milly I

Andrew Wilsonthink yeah so so then everybody so then that would not be everybody then okay except for mil yeah except for the person who didn't who you said it's impossible for her to do

Kishait for technically impossible for her to rate herself I said the outcome you're looking for at the end of the whole line of question is not where their mind's going to go so ultimately at the end of

Kishathe day every answer is going to seem delusional not looking at they don't all seem delusional well a lot of the times it does or is what does that have to do with anything just like I said it's not the same line of thinking it is the same

Andrew Wilsonline of thinking I don't understand what's the distinction between a man giving a self assessment and a woman giving a self assessment the reason is different what is the reason well your reason you're talking about the fertility and the physicality or

Andrew Wilsonwhatever like being attractive and things like that the same reasoning that women would have actually that's not what was said earlier no no no no what's being said is they tried to displace the

Andrew Wilsonactual question and say I'm going to go for everything except what is physical women don't think like that no they do think like that one thing women do think like is how attractive am I yes they do that's not what I'm talking about though

Kishathat's not how it is what you're talking about no because no that is not what I'm talking about then what are you talking about that's not how they gauge attractiveness a lot of women will gauge

Kishaattractiveness based on how they feel uh or what think benefits them emotionally or mentally or whatever it's not just physicality like yes but we're asking the question of pure physicality and I

Kishadon't think that women are so irrational they can't answer the question based on that that has nothing to do with irrationality and everybody answered like I said except for Millie what I'm saying is the end result that you're looking for you think you were accurate do you think you were accurate in your

Andrew Wilsonassessment that has nothing to do with what I'm saying well it has something to do with what I'm saying do you think you were accurate with your ass you're deflecting from what I'm talking I'm not deflecting at all I'm asking a direct question nothing to do do you think your assessment was accurate I'm not a man I

Kishadon't know how a man would rate me you can ask your audience I don't care it has so you don't know I said four I stand by four I don't care and do you think it's accurate doesn't matter if it if I think it's accurate or not a man might why would you give a number if you

Kishadon't think it's accurate that's not what I said I said I I gave a four I stand by four I said if a man agrees I'm not going to I don't know if a man's going to agree or not he might agree he might not agree but you

Andrew Wilsongave the number so clearly you think the number is accurate right I said four four do you think that's accurate cuz if you don't think it's accurate why would you give the number I said would you rather she not give

Kishaone I don't actually understand the conversation at this deflecting from the initial Point here which is that you asked a question that you know women will answer differently based on how

Kishathey feel and are going in a completely different direction in the end about something completely different that men portray in different way but the question becomes are they is it because they're being honest or not or if it's

Andrew Wilsonreally because they're just irrational like you're claiming it's a completely different line of thinking and it doesn't matter if nobody says they're not thinking about it along different lines but that doesn't mean that they're still not being dishonest or they're being honest how are they being

Andrew Wilsondishonest about what they because I've seen 250 lb fat uh obese whales sitting right there saying they're T is anybody here 250 and now you're

Andrew Wilsondeflecting the women here right now that just goes to show how pointless the question saying I've seen I've seen those women do that and clearly they're being dishonest and when questioned it's

Kishaobvious they're being dishonest that's why okay but we're you're so you're basing our argument right now based on previous ass other people of

Millennial Millieour it's an empirical question this is the this is the contradiction what's tell us the problem you just you're being dishonest no I didn't say you're being dishonest no no you did you literally said literally never said

Millennial Millieanybody's being dishonest a woman sitting there looking like a whale rating herself 10 and you're saying she's being dishonest we through inquiry I said through inquiry we discovered you was being dishonest yes okay okay you

Andrew Wilsonunderstand the inquiry like I asked a bunch of questions and she answered them and came to the conclusion she was being dishonest he inquired so she was the one who said oh no I'm not yeah well she

Andrew Wilsonliterally said there an inquisition she said phys yes it's true blah right but emotionally I'm a 10 or metaphysically

Millennial MillieI'm a 10 or whatever yes through inquiry Inquisition it was discovered that she was not being very honest yes well that's I think that men are going to be

Brian Atlasthe best judges of how attractive they find women at the end of the day okay well we got a chat here from Alex Alex says I enjoy your Christian view oh hey

Brian AtlasAB Che thank you for the gifted gifted 20 memberships appreciate it man Andrew but you lose me when you start acting Petty ignor ignorant and belittling of these women if you want your message to

Brian Atlasbe heard the the is this tone policing I don't know the delivery ma is matters stop sing Alex dude chill out stop sing Alex he has um room full it's a room

Andrew Wilsonfull of crazy feminists let's see you do better I don't uh I'm not a feminist you're a feminist absolutely not absolutely are a feminist you're an egalitarian V harder femin

Andrew Wilsona feminist I'm not a feminist then what is feminism wait can I ask a question here let's no are we having an argument sit there why we have the argument go ahead I'm not a feminist where did MADD

Andrew Wilsongo so I'll agree with her definition feminism is the mve I'm not a feminist don't even go there you don't get to say what I am did I just did it's the movement towards egalitarianism between

Andrew Wilsonmen and women inside Society how do you delineate from that I have a question do you think that okay anyway so back to this how do you delineate from that anyway how do you

Millennial Milliedelineate from that I'm not I'm not answering your question you just you literally just made a false claim against me feminist and I'm not you are a feminist if you okay so I'll Define

Andrew Wilsonfeminism penguin I'll I'll Define feminism penguin yeah I mean he's just making things up let's have the argument the delineation or will will allocate feminism way let's not bring aquatic

Andrew Wilsonanimals into this conversation go ahead I'm Prett sure feminism the movement towards the egalitarian

Andrew Wilsonequality of men and women how do you differ from a feminist because I'm not I don't believe in feminism that doesn't tell me anything how do you differ from

Andrew Wilsonthe of egalitarianism that that's not antithetical to feminism right I'm not a feminist so how do you delineate from E the movement of the egalitarianism

Andrew Wilsonbetween men and women women if you think she's wrong why don't you provide Solutions why don't you let us have the argument without interjecting go ahead men provide Solutions and women be silent why they

Andrew Wilsondo go ahead submit I've not heard you provide a single solution I think it's hilarious the solution is to yeah I did multiple times I already said we should limit suffrage we should limit the women's right to

Andrew Wilsonvote we should do all sorts of different things I gave tons of solutions you just have a selective memory cuz you are interjecting again when there's an argument that doesn't even include you go

Andrew Wilsonahead I'm not a feminist I just okay so how do you differ from ideology what I am and am not I get to Define what feminism is this is Give me a definition they give me a definition of feminism what is it what I what I am fine then

Millennial Milliewhat is the definition of feminism how do you defer from I don't know because I'm not a feminist you don't I'm not a feminist wait a second you know what a feminist is if you don't know the definition is that a cup how do you know

Andrew Wilsonyou're not a cup IDE that makes no sense how do you differ from feminists in ideology if it's the movement towards the egalitarian equality of men and

Andrew Wilsonwomen yeah just nothing I'm not a feminist I already told I don't believe I Believe In traditional roles man and woman marriage if a transgender was sitting where you are they would be like

Millennial MillieI'm not I'm not a man I'm a woman no that's not look it's not even the same I don't even understand how you're exactly the same how do you delate claiming I'm something okay so I'll just ask again so

Andrew Wilsonthat I don't strawman any positions do you agree that feminism is the movement of egalitarianism between men and

Millennial Milliewomen you're wrong because the goal of feminism is to reach full equality aru at a time please thank you go ahead the which is actually I I

TTS/Donation Voicestill don't see how you you you are the one who made a claim 200 here the thing you make claim you are a feminist all of your talking I back my claim up with the definition and said you don't delineate

Andrew Wilsonfrom the okay well then give me a counter definition how you delineate from it just because you think a woman should be able to vote doesn't mean you're a feminist okay great feminism do you agree is the movement of

Andrew Wilsonegalitarianism between men and women or not I would say yes how do you delineate from that that's what I thought she wants the

Andrew Wilsonpreservation of social norms for men and women what I thought and that is not what feminists want a little I think that good Lord I think

Andrew Wilsonthat for you to sit there and just claim I'm something I'm not is you just did I just said is that the definition you said yes I said how do you delineate nothing yeah because you didn't give me a a chance to resp give you a chance you

Millennial Milliedidn't give me a chance to okay I'm giving you a chance okay because you don't know all of my belief sets give me the belief set that delates on marriage on gender roles on the role of a man for

Millennial Milliethe belief delineation what is it okay what waiting for that delineation from feminism what is it he's asking you how you deviate from that how do I

Millennial Milliedeviate from feminism yeah okay well I believe that you know women should be mothers and prioritize a motherhood role over a

Andrew Wilsoncareer and that's one thing I think that feminists would probably disagree with the okay but you would also agree that there's many feminists who would agree that that's just fine if mothers want to

Andrew Wilsonprioritize that maybe yeah okay so what actually delineates your ideology from the feminist ideology of egalitarianism that women should submit

Andrew Wilsonto their husbands that women should submit to their husbands okay and are they if their husbands submit to first to God okay MH so maybe there's if that's true and we'll we'll get into

Andrew Wilsonthat next now this is more interesting So when you say submission what do you mean they should submit to their husbands what does that mean like they

Millennial Millieshould trust their husband's judgment in the home and uh basically to a certain degree they should trust his judgment and um allow

Millennial Milliehim to make some of the decisions but I think that it it kind of becomes one of the things where it's not that the woman doesn't have a say but it's that they

Andrew Wilsonshould submit to the husband what if says no you have no

Millennial Milliesay well I I guess the thing you'd have to think about is is his decision- making in line with God's with What God Says in what the Bible says well the Bible says to submit to him if it's

Millennial Milliesomething that would that's what it says well well here's an example if your husband said that you should go and say do it an only fans right mhm would you would you say that a woman should submit

Millennial Millieto that well that wouldn't be an actual Christian marriage at that point right right so at that point he would be you're in a christianr marage not in that case yeah if you're in a Christian marriage though

Millennial Milliehe's a Christian you're a Christian he's not going to be asking you to only fans right okay so should you submit even if he as long as what he's saying is in line with God yes say say absolutely with with the Bible with teaching let's say he says something like this let's

Andrew Wilsonsay he comes to you and and you guys are discussing finances and he goes actually we're just going to do everything this way and I don't give a [ __ ] what you have to say about it and I'm emptying out your account tomorrow and I'm going to do what I want with the money and you

Millennial Millieneed to just deal with it are you going to just shut up and take that um he I already let my husband do what he wants with my account so right now do you have your own account uh it's

Andrew Wilsona joint he's on it and he does whatever he wants to it okay well maybe there's a slight deviation then which is that you'll allow for some sort of sub allow for him to look at my phone I'll look at him phone I can do you he can do whatever he wants on my accounts you do

Millennial Millieyou think that women should be forced to submit in marriage I think that women should always be able to to to some degree have the right to choose and have a right of consent basically a man

Millennial Millieshouldn't be able to force himself on a woman yeah of course not a man shouldn't be like basically if if a man's like I want to have you know what tonight and she's like you know no she has a right to say no right she has a right to

Andrew Wilsonchoose do you believe that there's implied consent in marriage what do you mean like I like your husband rolls over in the morning and you're still asleep and he plows you

Millennial Milliethe [ __ ] did he did he did were you essed no no but if you there an implied consent legally there's already implied

Millennial Millieif you were saying no stop no stop then I would say that it was rape okay as soon as the woman it's implied consent as soon as a woman says no it's no

Faithlonger consent right can I just ask how do y'all's view of feminism influence your expectations for dating and marriage and all that sort of stuff also I

Andrew Wilsonjust this one really quick I'm not going to let you get away with it cuz you called me a feminist you are a feminist how am I a feminist because the only thing that you could come up with the only thing that you could come up with

Andrew Wilsonand by the way feminists also feminists who make claims that they're Christians will also make the claim for submission they'll say I'll do it within the context of religiosity but when it comes to society

Andrew Wilsonitself you want to see the egalitarian movement of men and women and you've said it over and over and over and over I did not say that okay well then give me a deviation which is not personal but

Millennial Millieit's a societal prescription a societal prescript my okay here's what I'll say I would say that my belief set as far as

Millennial Millierelationships go is very traditional in that I totally believe in the Dynamics of the man fulfilling the male role the

Millennial Milliewoman fulfilling the female role and those those um being very defined in that feminist believe that too has nothing to do with an egalitarian prescription for society what sorts of

Andrew Wilsonthings do you think as far as egalitarianism in society would you move away from when it comes to men and women under the law or under you know any type of um you know social patriarchy like

Andrew Wilsonhere's a good example do you support a patriarchy

Millennial Millieyes yes to a certain degree yeah what does that mean though a certain degree I I believe that men should be allowed to be masculine and and fully

Millennial MillieEmbrace I Believe In traditional like roles you knowy means chiv patriarchy means the father right men are in charge that's what it means so if men are in charge and women can't be in charge is

Millennial Milliethat okay with you I I don't think that that's how it naturally happens in the nuclear family unit though to a certain degree cuz women do have say in matter they do have a say in matters it's not that a woman

Reneenever has a say in any matter do you think a woman could should be able to be president I feel like that's kind of what he's asking president or like just a large leadership role something like that right like is that what you're asking are you saying that all women

Millennial Milliethis is my question are you saying that all wom he asking like legally what we can't do that men my my question is so you're saying okay so not only should women not vote but they shouldn't be able to hold any type of a job they

Millennial Millieshouldn't be able to hold any political positions political positions no okay so why would they be why would they be expected to work and provide which is a role that a male is supposed to perform for his family but not be able to vote

Andrew Wilsonwe don't expect them to work inside of a patriarchal system okay so you're saying the women should be allowed to work though they should be allowed to work that doesn't mean that they should have to work okay so how is that not a

Andrew Wilsonfeminist belief then how is that a feminist belief because I'm I'm telling you that I endorse a patriot Aral system patriarchal systems traditionally have protected women if women are working though would that be considered the job

Andrew Wilsonof there could be interest that they have or they might need a little part-time cash or something like this but if you contracted 50% of the workforce which would be female tomorrow wages would [ __ ] Skyrocket I guarantee men would be making a lot more

Andrew Wilsonmoney so the question becomes if you're inside of a patriarchal system the patriarchy itself is in charge women can't hold political political office at all they say no you're not allowed to hold political office which was the tradition of the United States no you're

Andrew Wilsonnot allowed to vote which was the tradition of the United States what's your problem with that will you realize that the United States is a corporation right no it's not yes it is no it's not that's a sovereign citizen [ __ ] it actually is a corporation no it's not a

Millennial Milliecorporation it is a corporation what type of Corporation it is a corporation what type of Corporation is it an es Corp is it an S corporations oh gosh okay so so what I'm getting out here is so women should be able to work and

Millennial Milliefulfill roles at corporations and at at jobs but they shouldn't be able to they shouldn't be able to fulfill political role in office can is different than

Andrew Wilsonshould you realize this right if I say should that means ought to do if I say can means capable of so yes women should be capable of working and should be able to work if they choose to work doesn't

Andrew Wilsonmean they should work there's a distinction between those two words when you're living inside of a again a patriarchal society what would your actual problem with a patriarchal

Millennial Milliesociety be or do you have have none um my actual deviation would just be more along the lines of traditional nuclear family roles why would that not exist inside of a patriarchal system

Millennial Milliebecause that's not what that's not what we're seeing today we're seeing the femin the feminist movement up today we're seeing women pushing for you know young girls to never get married to just

Reneestay sexually promiscuous and just go get a job in like gender studies said we live in a benevolent patriarchy where that you guys allow us to vote Yes you

Andrew Wilsondid I said the best I said the best thing about a benevolent patriarchy is that they don't use the enforcement arm to saying the best thing about something impes that it exist I'll get back to you you just told me stop talking in the

Andrew Wilsonmiddle until I finish until I finish this anyway go ahead by 19yearold

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Brian Atlaswhat's the question again uh tall Rich fit large peen terrible per uh horrible World Outlook and bad attitude in

Brian Atlasgeneral or 52 30k year chubby 4in pen but positive outlook and ooes confidence and Swagger ooh the second one okay wait

Faithfirst guy the the who would the first guy first guy the second guy second guy could I change my answer actually to the first guy I'm sorry I wasn't like totally why so why why um well just cuz

FaithI heard you reread it again and I and I I you know didn't process fully what was it that made you switch um I I do think that there's a provider aspect as well

Faithum to the first guy and everything that was the paycheck it's not even it's not even a paycheck but like he's fit we talked about yeah well I think I think it's a an aspect of taking care of

Faithhimself and that gives self assurance that already radiates confidence you know and so I can respect a lot of those aspects um but you know fisel yeah all right we have Rose given the implied

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