Andrew Wilson vs. Feminists! Scumbag Doctor GHOSTS Her After Taking Her V-CARD?! | Dating Talk #152

Date: 2024-04-15

Duration: 8h 15m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMillennial Millie >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson (alt segment)(guest)

SPEAKER_02Raina(guest)

SPEAKER_03Faith(guest)

SPEAKER_04Daliah(guest)

SPEAKER_05Alicia(guest)

SPEAKER_06Kisha(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08TTS/Donation Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_12Millennial Millie(guest)

SPEAKER_13Renee(guest)

SPEAKER_14Eden(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian asks guests to introduce themselves; reveals notable panel: 21yo married Faith, former OnlyFans creator Raina, 27yo Kisha with trafficked sister.

“"please tell us your name age location and occupation"”

OtherRaina introduces herself as a 21yo who has had OnlyFans for 2 years and is looking for a new job after quitting.

“"my name is Raina and I'm 21 and um my occupation I've had only fans for the past two years"”

OtherKisha reveals she was briefly married; husband put her in hospital; her sister was trafficked and she has not seen her in 4 years.

“"he had put me in the hospital... my sister was trafficked... I haven't seen her for four years"”

OtherRenee says "I wish I was aborted" as a hypothetical argument for abortion rights; panel takes it seriously and checks on her wellbeing; she clarifies it was rhetorical.

“"I wish my mom had aborted me... I wasn't alive today because my childhood was rough"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson argues women should not have the right to vote; argues rights are social constructs enforced only by men. Brian quickly disavows the position on camera.

“"men are the enforcers of Rights... only men should be able to have the stake and the claim to vote"”

QuoteBrian publicly disavows Andrew's women-shouldn't-vote position to protect channel from cancellation.

“"women should vote I'm I'm fine with it not trying to get cancelled"”

QuoteDaliah rates herself a solid 8 in looks.

“"do a solid eight solid eight"”

OtherRaina recounts visiting LA for modeling; her agent had no real license; she received death threats at the model house on her first trip to LA.

“"apparently my agent didn't even have a real license... when I got to the model house I was getting death threats"”

OtherFaith recounts waking up with unexplained dark bruises after sleeping with an atheist coworker she describes as possibly an "Antichrist" type; never saw him again; experience drove her to celibacy and Christianity.

“"I woke up with um like things bruis like bruises and what the [bleep]... really really dark bruises and I don't know how they got there"”

OtherEden recounts being a 19yo virgin who dated a 40yo podiatrist from San Francisco for 3 months; he took her virginity then immediately blocked her on all platforms. He kept a digital Kindle scrapbook of every woman with photos and written reviews.

“"after after we had sex though I I got home and I was blocked... there was chapters"”

QuoteBrian's shocked reaction to Eden's doctor ghosting story.

“"holy F*** bro this is... he had the big book of virgins"”

QuoteRaina discloses her body count as 21; notes she knows a civilian man with 23 so she is "doing better than most."

“"uh like 21... I know a guy with 23 and he wasn't even a sex worker"”

OtherBrian announces this was the longest stream ever, breaking the 8-hour mark, then raids WowGrandma78 (82yo World of Warcraft streamer) on Twitch.

“"this is our longest show ever we broke the f*** eight hour stream mark... we are going to raid... WowGrandma78 she's 82 she plays World of Warcraft"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation, relationship status. Notable: Kisha reveals briefly married (husband involved in trafficking, put her in hospital); Raina reveals 2-year OnlyFans career; Faith reveals she is 21 and married.

Relationship status round

Brian goes around the table asking about current relationship status, longest relationship, how it ended, and recent dating activity. Renee: on-again-off-again (ex texted her that day). Raina: recently single after 2-year relationship with ~40yo adult film performer. Faith: met husband at club in Berkeley. Kisha: was briefly married, husband became adversarial. Millie: common-law married 12 years, two kids. Eden: 1.5-year age-gap relationship with 32yo.

Men play chess, women play checkers

Kisha presents her father's philosophy that men and women think differently: men play chess (long-term strategy, compartmentalization), women play checkers. Discussion of whether feminists in power are being manipulated by men behind the scenes. Panel debates and partially agrees.

Deal breakers round

Brian asks each guest for their deal breakers in a partner. Renee: no passion in life, no style. Daliah: disrespect, disloyalty. Kisha: man who does not put God first; unequally yoked. Raina: mama's boy, porn-watching, feminine men. Faith: passive/feminine men. Millie: not loyal, no God relationship. Alicia: addiction (vice as mistress). Eden: no goals/career ambition, too much partying. Andrew: cruelty to children and elderly.

Porn, OnlyFans, and body count

Discussion of whether prior adult content work is a deal breaker. Raina (former OF creator) says it depends on context; deal breaker is active habit. Panel analyzes psychology: ex watching porn -> Raina started OF. Brian's position: sex work history is 100% deal breaker for long-term relationship.

Abortion debate

Extended debate triggered by hypothetical: Renee says if she got pregnant tomorrow she would consider abortion because she wants to go to law school. Andrew Wilson argues from pro-life position. Debate covers: when life begins (24-week viability vs conception), Scott Peterson double-homicide analogy, financial readiness argument, adoption and foster care. Renee mentions she sometimes does not want to live; panel addresses this carefully.

Who is a feminist (panel round)

Brian asks each guest if they consider themselves a feminist. Renee: identifies as black feminist (intersectional). Andrew: not a feminist; argues Millie IS a feminist by egalitarian definition. Millie: not a feminist; reformed feminist; believes in traditional gender roles. Faith: not a feminist. Alicia: not a feminist. Eden: qualified yes (equality + traditional roles). Kisha: not a feminist; Christian. Daliah: not political.

Women's voting and Christianity — patriarchy debate

Andrew Wilson argues Christian ethics require patriarchy; female pastors are "fake Christians." Millie partially agrees on traditional roles but rejects women-shouldn't-vote. Panel debates whether submission in marriage means husband has absolute financial authority. Millie says husband manages joint account; she trusts his judgment.

Women's suffrage debate

Andrew Wilson argues women should not have the vote; bases argument on: (1) rights are social constructs enforced by men, (2) only enforcers of rights deserve voting stakes. Millie and Renee argue from constitutional/god-given rights framework. Extended debate on whether rights are real vs social constructs. Brian disavows Andrew's position on-air ("women should vote, I'm fine with it").

Military conscription and women

Panel debates whether gender equality requires women to be subject to military draft. Eden says she would be "not opposed to it." Millie argues women should not be drafted due to reproductive role and physical differences. Andrew runs population/polygamy argument. Brian notes he personally does not support female conscription.

AR-15 in bedroom — gun ownership as red flag?

Chat scenario: perfect man in every way but has a loaded AR-15 next to bed. Renee: would ask why; would want it secured away from future kids. Kisha and others: not a deal breaker if he follows gun laws. Faith: depends on context — goofy college kid vs. grown man. Andrew/Brian: self-defense discussion; AR-15 fires small 5.56 bullets.

Self-ratings (1-10 looks)

Brian has Stiffler (chat) ask each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Daliah: 8. Raina: 8.5. Background voice: 6. Millie declines to rate but chat can rate her. Kisha: 4. Andrew rates his wife at 6. Debate over whether self-rating is meaningful or gendered.

Physical attractiveness: male vs female standards

Extended debate on whether women can objectively rate their own attractiveness. Andrew argues women deflect the question by adding non-physical qualities. Kisha argues women gauge attractiveness through internalized male gaze. Discussion of fertility as basis for male attraction to women. Andrew rates his wife at 6 physically.

Hoe to housewife: can promiscuous women reform?

Panel debates whether women with promiscuous or sex-work backgrounds can make good long-term partners. Kisha (Christian): references Rahab from Bible; reformed individuals deserve family. Brian: women can change but men are not obligated to marry them after. Alicia: shares personal redemption arc around alcoholism. Andrew: hypothetical about son wanting to marry 250-scene OF performer.

Raina's adult industry story

Raina elaborates: started OnlyFans at ~19 living on her own; recruited by message. No family financial support. Ex-boyfriend was ~40yo adult film performer; narcissistic/abusive. He cheated; she found him searching for new girls on YouTube. Also recounts: modeling agency in LA; agent had no real license; received death threats at model house on first visit to LA.

Faith's personal story: party phase, Antichrist encounter, marriage

Faith describes freshman year at ASU: feminist/astrology phase, party culture, depression. Describes relationship with atheist coworker she slept with 3 times after 4-month slow-burn; woke up with unexplained dark bruises; never saw him again; describes this as encounter with "Antichrist-type." Became born-again Christian; met husband at club; married at 21.

Eden's doctor ghosting story

Eden (21yo) recounts: at age 19, met 40yo podiatrist from San Francisco on Tinder. 3-month courtship; daily calls; 5 in-person dates; he promised love and future. He took her virginity; as soon as she got home, he had blocked her on everything. He had a digital Kindle scrapbook with chapters on each woman he'd slept with (reviews, photos, profile pics). Brian/panel: he was a serial virginity-collector. Panel reacts with shock; Eden says she dodged a bullet.

Body count round

Brian asks each guest their body count. Renee: declines initially; confirms less than 10. Raina: 21. Millie: single digits (between her and future husband; been with current partner since age 20). Daliah: declines. Andrew: declines; teased to multiply whatever he says by 3. Panel agrees men have the right to care about body count.

Transcript

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Faithsad and um I would go home and then the next week the cycle would repeat because my my friends would be like hey you know such and such theme is going on we can get dressed up blah blah blah BL blah and so I was like okay yeah I don't I

Faithdon't want to be left out I don't want to stay at home in in my dorm dorm room you know and so so what did you do wrong if you just went to these parties and left in 20 minutes I it's it's it was the it was the it was the drinking and

Faiththen you getting drunk in 20 minutes no like the pregaming and then additionally when you go there they also give out free alcohol and so I was I would just get so you would get drunk to go to the party yeah yeah were you that's how bad

Brian Atlasit was no you said but you're now you're newly married you said you describe yourself born again Christian yes 21 uh you said being married at 21 in this day

Brian Atlasand age is an anomaly and itself um okay it's true you said also there's a huge divide between men and women today as there's a attack on family the female empowerment lifestyle I was living

Brian Atlasbefore becoming Christian was highly counterproductive to what is healthiest what most women my age actually want deep down an emotionally mature strong

Brian Atlasloyal man many of the qualities women are pushing back on are the exact qualities that will give them the stable and healthy relationships they desire and that every human being deserves do

Faithyou care to elaborate on any of that yeah absolutely so also my first year of college um I was an astrology girl I was just

Faithtotally off my rocker I was like I hate men men suck F the patriarchy you know and like I was on my

Faithwhole right w w I know I know it was really bad it was really bad and and I was like I don't need to conform or submit to any man it's garbage blah blah blah blah blah and then it's like okay

Faithyeah you say all this and yet here you are unhappy single alone you know um and depressed really really depressed and um and then I had um and I just hit rock

Faithbottom and I had an uh a personal encounter um you know I I feel uh with with god with the Holy Spirit and everything wait were you about to say you had aoran just what it sound like no no no

Faithno no no sounded like you're about to say okay no no no no no no not at all not at all um but yeah no I I just I just hit a rock bottom I like self-isolated from everyone I just I

Faithjust found that it party culture just a lot of people there it's just kind of like a bottomless void of nothingness and emptiness and you're not going to find anything really fulfilling and meaningful there and so those places where I was seeking that out it's and

Faithand how I was seeking it out and conducting myself and that behavior it's not going to provide anything that I wanted because at the end of the day I did want a loyal man and when I would watch the whatever podcast and everything I would see all these girls and they're like oh yeah you know in a

Faithcouple years when I want to settle down after after I finish my o career whatever it is I would love to be on one of those podcasts yeah like like when I finish my of career you know I'll find this husband blah blah blah so it's like even like if you're not really thinking

Faithabout it or even like how how you were saying like it's and and how all of us were saying we've all had experiences most of us where a guy has screwed us over and it's hurt because we want that commitment we want that loyalty and we can't get that if we're going out

Faithpartying being like totally crazy whatever it is um and uh so after after I became Christian I I humbled myself um and I got like a totally you know I

Faithgot a totally new nature I got way more in touch with my femininity and um and yeah I don't I don't you know resent my did you ever have color in your hair uh I did I did was this your feminist days

Faithyes what color blue purple no no no it was like it it was it was red it was yeah not not like a like a bright like Pennywise red photos of it oh my God uh

Brian Atlasit's on my phone but yeah all right uh you one of the things that you wanted to you said you had a dis agreement with the show sometimes the way women are

Brian Atlasdemeaned yeah and I assume you're talking about Andrew here this raing was I'm sorry raging mogy no not a misogynist because you do believe it

Brian Atlaspushes women to be angry at men more divided uh well I've often received this this uh accusation to I suppose uh so in

Faithcan you provide an example of a time you know yeah um I wom demeaning can't think of like the exact

Faithtonight no I like I just no no there was there was um a time on a recent episode I can't remember like word for word but

Faithno no no it it was Andrew wow I'm sorry I'm sorry and again I like I I I agree with your views um but uh but it's the way I say it it's it's no it's not the way you say it it's actually like words

Faiththat you say and it's counterproductive to getting your point across I don't I like my like my dad like straight up like is super conservative and when I was in my liberal pH would like straight

Faithup like yell at me whatever it is but I you know it it wasn't in the way like that um so there was a girl that was talking about like I'm a born again virgin or whatever it was and you're like can you like piece together like or

Faithcan you can you regenerate no the Asian girl when I asked her if God could give her backer Heyman yeah yeah that was super funny I and and she was so piss

Andrew Wilsonthat chick was so mad but it's stupid it's stupid it is it is stupid then why doesn't anybody just say look don't be you can say it's stupid but there like you what really emphasizes that what really emphasizes that is when you make

Faitha comment like that and they're like [ __ ] that okay that's stupid yeah yeah I I can understand that but then you also have people that are like see you know like uh like he hates women and this is

Faithwhy like you know we should rebel against this versus I I feel like if the comments were maybe a little less cross in that in that regard it could have gotten your point across better but I do I do understand and like I could be totally wrong youever heard of a Creator

Andrew Wilsonnamed Pearl Davis um Yes actually yeso sh yeah one of the reasons that um I think that so many

Andrew Wilsonwomen come after her and hate her guts is because she's funny and most women are not funny they suck and they're miserable when it comes to humor they're just not funny and I think they actually

Andrew Wilsonget mad at her because she's hilarious and that's just really rare to see mhm that comment that I made was super funny and everybody was laughing except of course a bunch of women or I can't

Brian Atlasbelieve I don't think it's what about the message and it's like have I demeaned have I done any demeaning yeah you were awful Brian he was pretty bad No not tonight I mean like not honestly

Faithnot that I demeaning I probably think of of course off the top of my head I'm not going to say something that's not true or that I can't recall I've probably demeaned I mean like we're and we're all guilty

Millennial Millielike I think that some of the questions I've asked on the show have been a bit wait wait wait wait hold on say that again I think some of the some of the questions asked on the show have been a bit dementing and I don't know if it's

Millennial Milliejust because of this being a dating podcast some of the questions that are being asked but I find some of them being very

Millennial Millieinappropriate or you know just pushing boundaries which which one well I mean there there's different ones

Millennial Milliewhere you've asked um I know you had an issue with the rating yourself thing yeah was the rating one inappropriate or demeaning I wouldn't say that one I mean I that seemed to be the only question

Millennial Millieyou really I give me some examples I agree okay so I thought that that one was to me it's kind of

Millennial Millielike not a very I feel like it's not a very intellectual question what to to ask somebody just asking them to rate themselves but I guess if that's the

Millennial Milliecurrent dating culture that everyone just does then maybe I'm just not aware of that because I've you know haven't been dating for 12 years okay but um so I I think some of that stuff just to me some of the the level of questions that

Millennial Millieare being asked just don't seem like I'm used to for example I'm used to going on a lot of podcasts on a lot of shows and I'm used to men interacting with me in a way that's more professional or

Millennial Millierespectful so I I my thing is I noticed like the questions being asked here and the way the women are being talked to here is kind of more or less like uh a little bit more like they're being

Brian Atlaslooked at as sex objects which you know maybe maybe how could you possibly arrive hold bro you're a [ __ ] feminist I'm sorry hold on I'm going to

Brian Atlas[ __ ] Double Down [ __ ] you're a [ __ ] feminist everything that's come out your [ __ ] mouth you are a [ __ ] feminist holy [ __ ] allow me to prove it

Millennial Milliehere's a point here on one of your podcast on one you said tonight though hey no I didn't say tonight I said on one of your one of your podcasts you

Millennial Millieasked women about the anatomy of their vaginas how is that not treating women like sex objects on I think the TTS does that what's specific okay tell me specifically what I said I think I know

Millennial Milliewhat you're getting at but specifically what did I say are you talking about the two-hole prostitute no you asked women specific about the anatomy of their vaginas that's what you asked on your on your specifically I think you said if

Millennial Milliethey had any vaginas or outy vaginas you're asking them to go around the table and talk about their vaginas and to mean you made a joke you son of

Millennial Milliea not a joke I think to me that's not a I mean that's kind of a demeaning question to ask a woman would you ask that to your mother what yeah would you ask your

Millennial Milliemother and her friends you know do you have in your out D in a bakery first off would you ask that to your mother first off the way how many fingers have been in her cake

Brian Atlasyeah call up your mom right now and ask her if she has an in or oute vagina well hold on the question I mean is that appropriate are you going to let me answer are you going to let me answer the question are you just going to continue yapping on as Andrew says here

Brian Atlasokay go ahead okay the way that you conduct yourself in any scenario is going to vary based on the relationship dynamics that exist for example we we're all actors to some degree the way that I might conduct myself or that I might

Brian Atlashave conducted myself when I was in school for example and there's a teacher I'm going to conduct myself much differently than when I'm among my friends or the way you conduct yourself at work is much different than the way

Brian Atlasyou might conduct yourself uh you know with again a friend group or your girlfriend for example so would I ask my mom about first off I'm kind of you

Brian Atlasbringing my mother into this is sort of insulting in its own right but no to answer your question I wouldn't ask her this question but we're this is a dating podcast we regularly

Brian Atlastalk about sex related things dating related things now to actually address the initial point that you made about that I was asking that question you're actually just full on erroneous you're

Brian Atlaswrong and you're actually it's very disingenuous just like how's it dis hold on just like when we were saying she should bow you made this like false

Brian Atlasaccusation Our intention was to be predatory and T down her shirt which actually wasn't the case at all camera I'm about to destroy your

Brian Atlas[ __ ] position a TTS came in and asked the question it wasn't me it was a TTS that said Ines or outies ladies if I if I'm recalling it was the previous show

Brian AtlasI'm pretty sure Nick you might recall Spencer you might recall recall Madison you might recall it wasn't me just like out of The Ether asking the question a TT s asked it and I was almost like

Brian Atlashesitantly like uh do you like I was kind of it's obviously a bit uncomfortable to ask somebody about their genitalia but the T out of respect for the TTS I was like okay [ __ ] it I guess

Millennial Millieso it's a bit disingenuous for you to say that it was me asking when I was just entertaining the person who asked the question via the TTS right I mean do you have to ask I told the girls I'm pretty sure

Brian AtlasI told the girls you don't have to answer the question and in fact Andrew I think you were there too in the call in so it's just a little bit unfair you've done some very unfair characterization don't you think that is inappropriate

Andrew Wilsonquestion to be ask how this always works is like this and I've watched this now I think by the way I made history tonight because I think that I'm the what like the most recurred you are the most

Andrew Wilsonrecurring most recurring guest ever history what do you know anyway um I've seen this so many times now but what Brian always does is he'll he will stop on a question if you don't want to

Andrew Wilsonanswer it and he might ask you your reasoning and if your reasoning is silly he might argue back and forth he never actually tells women they have to answer the question he'll just argue if they're

Brian Atlasgiving a reason why they won't that makes no sense and if I recall see that's a problem if I recall correctly to that actual question mind if I recall I think none of the women answered and I

Andrew Wilsonleft it at that yep just asked it from the TTS but okay but I mean on a dating podcast you're going to talk about sex you're going to talk about all that kind of stuff I mean that's that's what the

Andrew Wilsonwhole point is like I get it it's not it's not comfortable to be in a room full of [ __ ] Deens talking about sex all the time but if you want to get your message to people you want to go would

Andrew Wilsonyou ask that on a first date to a girl you [ __ ] yeah bro if she had an any pull up big laia matter pull that [ __ ] up [ __ ] it I'm not # bigia matter for me

Andrew Wilsonthose of things I don't give a [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] how many you know this has happened or that or what you R like those things for me are the least important thing from my perspective for the podcast I don't care that's it's

Andrew Wilsonthat's not what I'm here for I'm here to give ideological push back I'm just saying to you I understand on a dating podcast it makes sense why those questions would be asked that's all uh

Reneegirls ask me if I'm a Munch that's a Munch you don't you don't want you don't know wait Rene why don't you tell us Rene Rene why don't you tell need

Reneefeminism a Munch is just a certified eater oh my God you just you just invite him over to eat you out that's it that's [ __ ] disgusting hey you do you have

Reneethat no I just know what it is you call it an eater well they call is that the thing that people call it a Munch is that the thing that ice spice you you're just a Munch you're

Brian Atlasjust EA my coochie that's oh my God I thought it was like like a Cheeto what foul creature like hold on Millie do you see why me and Andrew might think you're feminist because you've used a bunch of

Brian Atlasbuzzwords sexual objectification you uh what was the other Dem demeaning is it in well here's the question is it impossible to be sexually objected to a man or a woman yeah both men and women can be sexually

Millennial Millieobjectified I don't even really know what that was like my perspective and take on asking certain questions like that was that it was kind of treating the women as sure but the go-to here's

Andrew Wilsonthe big example right is the go-to the go-to is um with the bow thing the bow thing was nuts like that made no sense nobody was trying to see down this girl shirt okay well you understand she's

Millennial Milliewearing a low cut BL there's an ongoing meme on the show there's a camera right here you said face the camera bow the camera I'm seeing that as she's bowing down you can start to see more and more and I was wanting to let her know hey

Millennial Milliewait they're trying to they're trying to kind of be like mother but couldn't just said you might be exposed yourself rather than they're trying to who are you accusing though who are you accusing well you guys seemed like it was really

Andrew Wilsonfun and funny and just yeah it's a meme okay literally it's an ongoing meme of the show there's women it's it's like um oh you know can we get her to do it then it's patriarchy wins again it has

Andrew Wilsonnothing to do with any it's an ongoing meme literally a joke and it's funny I'm guy also so yeah that was definitely not the intent

Millennial Milliebut it was your go was your go along with all the other feminist ideology not feminist I am not a feminist I'm a conservative see I don't think you guys are actually he said he's not a conservative man I agree that he's

Millennial Millienot you say that you're a conservative man but I've heard you tonight espouse a lot of kind of beliefs that aren't necessarily can't wait to hear one I would love to hear one belief I have a

Millennial Milliespouse that's not conservative just one well I I guess uh some of the beliefs you said on you were pushing back against um making it illegal to uh

Andrew Wilsonessentially have premarital sex it's a non-conservative belief not to criminalize premarital sex is that correct right but then the other things no is that correct okay well I would say

Millennial Milliethat if you were that is that correct I'm not saying that necessarily okay that was one indication that was indication was is when we were discussing about um what cons what conservative men should be held

Millennial Millieaccountable to as far as like engaging in premarital sex and you were really kind of pushing it more on that it was the woman and that she's the one who has the choice and to say at the end of the

Millennial Millieday and the power and that you said women you said women hold the power Gatekeepers of sex you said Yeah women hold the power they're Gatekeepers of

Andrew Wilsonsex as though and that's kind of pushing back in that you know men also have a role in it as well yeah I said that yeah and not only did I say that but I said

Andrew Wilsonthat male chastity is necessary I said absolutely 100% male promiscuity should be socially stigmatized just like female uh promiscuity all of it I still haven't

Andrew Wilsonactually heard a single position that I have be antithetical to cons I know believe in the Constitution and you did say you didn't believe in the constition no listen so that you understand cuz I

Andrew Wilsondon't think you ever got the argument it's not a matter of believing or not in the Constitution Constitution exists it's the law of the land people follow it they do or don't follow it whatever I was making an argument against rights

Andrew Wilsonbeing anything other than a social construction that has nothing to do with my belief in the Constitution saying the Constitution is wrong nothing like that just that the rights which are entailed

Andrew Wilsonin it are a social construction built on a false starting point an axiom that's it that's the whole argument there's nothing antithetical to conservatism about it in fact conservatism should

Andrew Wilsonabout be about the conservation of the Bible not the conservation of the Constitution we know this because you yourself would want to see certain amendments from the old Constitution taken out like slavery right so you want

Millennial Milliethe Constitution to be amended don't you well it already has been right and and you would like that right that's not a bad thing yeah but I

Millennial MillieI Constitution as it stands today and you know the values that it has yeah and it did kind of sound like earlier you you were essentially are arguing under well there's lots in the Constitution I

Andrew Wilsondon't like yeah totally tons of things in it I don't like that I think suck I mean uh I think that it sucks for one thing that we uh we have a congress now um that doesn't elect the president and

Andrew Wilsoninstead it's elected by popular vote I don't like that I think that that sucks I think that that's a stupid process and it never was the process uh I don't like uh the fact that uh we have expanded suffrage and we're continuing to expand

Andrew Wilsonsuffrage that's a bad system there's a lots of systems I can to their Superior tons of things in I disagree with but what does it have to do with anything it's not a conservative principle so I I don't I'm still

Millennial Millieactually waiting to hear a single conservative principle I don't hold right I don't I don't necessarily agree with um wanting to ban I guess women's right to vote or take away women's right

Reneeto vote as conservative that's a conservative uh we do have a chat here Renee can you read it for us you got this feminist Lon made me chat one more time they see the quote

Reneemale Boogeyman end quote everywhere it makes no sense for Brian to ask her to bow to see up her shirt with thousands of people watching you are an idiot I don't well then why did he ask

Andrew Wilsonthat because it's an ongoing meme it's an ongoing meme of the show where Pete wom will stand up and bow wait are you actually still just holding firm on your position like she stood up and bowed

Millennial Milliewait are you still holding firm on your position makes no sense to to have her stand up and bow in front of the camera and I'm I'm saying well you did but well yes I'm not denying that I

Brian Atlasasked her to do it but are you are you staying firm in your assertions that my motivations for doing it was to see down her shirt well it was interpreted that that

Millennial MillieI interpreted it as that was a possibility of what was going on there you just got me too homie I was interpreting it as that it seemed kind of like it I mean you're you're asking

Brian Atlasthem to bow forward with low cut shirts towards the camera the cam bowing motion like that there's no other way to Bow than to I'm familiar right but so what

Millennial Millieevidence do you have that the motivation was to see down her shirt I said that's how I interpreted it how cuz the way that like there was like laughing

Brian Atlasgiggling and it just it seemed like it because laughing and giggling implies that there's a like a

Millennial Milliebad faith reason for like I don't get it okay well then why after I brought it up no why after I brought it up that you could see out did you still continue to

Andrew Wilsoncarry on and encourage her to do it because that was never his intention you're okay is this a post talk justification um so after you knew that

Andrew Wilsonthe possibility existed that she had a low cut shirt and it could spill the beans for the entirety of the camera why would you risk your Channel with a nude shot by having her bow and show all that Brian you

Andrew Wilsonfool why you sick [ __ ] get your [ __ ] together Brian unbelievable so I don't even think I

Brian Atlaspressed it that much further but you're saying by virtue of me following up on the bow request that is evidence that

Millennial Millieyour initial assertion is correct well it it it kind of made yeah following up when I'm like hey you know you we can totally see down your shirt and your

Brian Atlaslogic it seems a little faulty here I don't think so okay let me I'm going to I want to try to give an example where I could just turn this on you and essentially call you a um you should be grateful if anything

Andrew Wilsoncuz I I I prevented you from getting a terms of service because wait a terms of no that's different wait wait hang on that's different do you think he wanted to get a terms of service right my shirt I a jacket do you think he wanted to get

Andrew Wilsona terms of do a bow with a jacket on hang on though if you don't think he wanted to get a terms of service strike then why would he ask her to bow to see down her shirt well I mean you potentially could I mean

Millennial MillieI don't know if you're going to see nipple I'm sure if you show nipple you're more like to see your cleavage real bad like really that's like I already said I'm an ass guy like I don't

Millennial MillieI'm not really like that interested in okay well all I know is me as a woman if you know I was is going to potentially do something that could be exposing myself in front of the whole internet I

Brian Atlaswould want other women to be like hey you know we can totally see down your shirt but that's not what you said you said they want to see down your shirt that's what it appeared to be like it

Millennial Millieappeared to be that what evidence do you have for that it appeared to be that way okay well I'm just tell and look you have the opportunity to be like you know that's totally not what we were

Millennial Millieintending and I can go okay you know but I think that that's what I'm doing right now you know what here's the thing when I initially said it if you guys would been like oh wow okay you know what hold your shirt if you're going to bow or

Millennial Milliewhatever then I would have like say she could then I probably would have been like okay you know what I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions there no but you you pushed back and said no no no don't do it don't do it they're trying Tois such ridicul kind push back on her like

Aliciano no no don't do it yeah because you could totally see that doesn't prove your point because you would have just said hey when you bow do

Aliciathis cover yourself but you immediately implied there was like malicious intent and and like I said that's how I perceived it damn bro this is how dudes

Aliciaget falsely accused this is how dud get fused no it's not it seemed like that's literally what you're doing though the joke was that she presented herself as the most feminist here so to get her to Bow they're going to say patriarchy wins

Millennial Milliethat was the joke the joke wasn't haha we're going to see her titts okay just a meme all right well well here's the thing what I will say if you guys really

Millennial Millieand truly didn't intend for her to be you guys I didn't [ __ ] ask anybody to Bow anyway Brian if you really didn't intend for her to be like exposing herself like that to the millions of

Andrew Wilsonfollowers you have then I apologize for jumping to conclusion maybe I did maybe I was like yeah go ahead and bow and you know what I'm going to double down you should still go [ __ ] bow still right

Andrew Wilsonthis second you should bow and you're still a [ __ ] feminist and you're dumb and you made an accusation has no merit whatsoever Tred to meet to this guy totally try to meet this gu I'm not trying to meet he wanted to see down the

Andrew Wilsonshirt of this poor 19-year-old girl has no no proof at all for your alligate just made it for no reason at all pretty awful if you ask me pretty shitty female

Millennial MillieBehavior did you hear what I just said I said if he in fact didn't intend then I apologize okay well then I apologize to to you Brian if you really didn't you know intend to do that but it's how I

Millennial Millieperceived it and you know that's why I said that's a feminist perception it's not a feminist perception no because the way the way the conversation led up to it G and the joking and the laughing and it kind of seemed like you guys were

Millennial Milliegetting kind of giddy I thought okay well it kind of seems like we're about to see a show of her breasts you know on on the big screen can we move on or something I feel really uncomfortable with this

Brian Atlasconversation can can we ask the person in question Renee did you feel like that was my intention asking for the bow uh no but I am glad I didn't

Brian Atlasactually like fully I would have just rathered maybe if someone like hold your shirt up girl right yeah I mean this is within the context of my conversation with you because you actually

Brian Atlasspecifically wanted to talk about your experience with the bow so it was like it wasn't just like nonc would her let me ask Renee over here for B it was within the context of our convers my God

Brian Atlasthis is such a meta conversation uh it was within that context so okay did I just get that was a me too

Andrew Wilson (alt segment)for sure bro that was [ __ ] totally that was a me too okay uh all right well um you sick son of a [ __ ] yeah yeah okay

Brian Atlaswell good talk I guess all right let's get some uh let me read some of the chats we have Nickelodeon she focused on on the at the camera part of the bow request Brian was respectfully telling her she didn't have to bow to him so do

Brian Atlasit towards the camera apparently that makes you a predator Brian yeah you know um I'm yeah it is what it is thank you Nickelodeon I I don't recall the exact

Brian Atlasverbatim of what was said what wasn't said so yeah um uh evil World body cams this feminist is an idiot they just can't see past the male Boogeyman yeah

Brian Atlaspretty much uh anything men do is always going to be viewed within like this sort of lens of uh I guess uh men it's always

Brian Atlasviewed in this like um men tend to be pathologized always so uh I'm saying that there are thousands of people watching so that wasn't his intent he worked too hard to lose

Brian AtlasChannel to see some nit yeah bro I we we've had we had a nip slip once or twice on the show we are

Brian Atlasvery avoidant of that sort of thing um yeah okay thank you evil World body cams appreciate it man uh let me finish try

Brian Atlasto get through my notes Here bringing it back to Faith Faith you said if you can be quick tell us the Antichrist story really quick oh my gosh yeah okay so

Faithyeah yeah right this is there red heer involved uh huh nothing goad I'm I'm sorry um okay so back when I was just starting to kind of get into Christianity and whatnot I I wasn't

Faithtotally convinced yet but I was moving closer and closer starting to do some research on the Bible and everything and um I was seeing this this guy sort it

Faithwas my first and only ever sort of like Friends with Benefits sort of thing I very much regret it um and uh and and

Faithone night did he go to 15-minute parties with you too no no no no um uh one night I I had gotten a call from someone who was like a a sort of spiritual religious

Faithmentor and he was actually the pastor that married my husband and I in the end but um I remember earlier that day he had called and was like hey just by the way I kind of got uh I was deep in

Faithprayer this morning and just stay away from from men right now like there's I I just I was like H yeah whatever fine you

Faithknow and then later on in that day this guy the the Antichrist came over and um I was kind of talking to him about how I was feeling really guilty about what we were doing I was like I don't I don't feel like this is this is spiritually

Faithright I don't feel like this is right for me anymore I just don't feel like I'm this type of girl I just it's not and um and he was like well why do you think that I'm like oh well because I I I'm really starting to fall in love with

FaithChristianity and I'm falling in love with God again and everything and his demeanor totally switched and he just like totally different person I'm like getting chills right now like totally different person

Faithand he was like well I hate God and I was like what do you mean and he's like well I'm atheist and I was like oh okay and he's like yeah no I I hate the Bible and I was like well don't you go to a

FaithCatholic college and he's like yeah I do but that doesn't that doesn't mean anything he's like I'm the and then all of a sudden he starts to say um and it was stupid of me to think that but you

Faithknow it was late at night I was tired whatever um and then all of a sudden he's like yeah and I'm I'm the Antichrist actually actually and I can't

Faithwait to burn in hell I can't wait to die and burn in hell um and right right and he started to go on and on about this and I just totally like freaked out he

Faithwent he went to take a shower I I called the my are you saying you slept with the Antichrist oh my God it it freaks it freaks me out but I did like a lot of

Faithdeep prayer afterward and everything and um I I think he's just just very anti-christian and everything and so I called my my mentor and I was like oh my God you you were right I what do I do what do I do and he was like just pray

Faithabout it I'll pray about it you know we'll figure this out and the next morning and I kind of slept with one eye open that night because it was like 3:00 in the morning I did I didn't want to do anything cuz I've never heard some guys

Faithsay crazy stuff like that um and the next morning I like woke up with um I don't know if I can say this but um like things bruis like bruises and whatnot like all over my body like

Faithreally really dark bruises and I don't know how they got there and I never saw him again thankfully but that was my final thing of like okay God this was my sign I guess on the bruises thing how did the bruises come about I literally

Faithdon't I don't know I don't know how they got there I the next morning I took a shower were you maybe just tossing and turning maybe but I I've never had that that HP that ever happen before um but yeah and and maybe it doesn't have any

Faithmaybe it doesn't have anything to do with it at all I just thought it was very very very peculiar and strange and the next and I and I saw it the next morning when I was taking a shower cuz I literally couldn't stand the stench I I actually came down to Santa Barbara for like 3 days after the fact cuz I didn't

Faithwant to be in my house anything or well my apartment I didn't want to be in my apartment anything I was just so freaked out about it um but I'm I'm thankful that the experience happened because it was a huge learning experience and it

Faithwas it was enough to scare me into celibacy until I met my husband months months later you did you hook up with the guy did you hook up with him uh yes yes it was it was consistent we knew each other for months before

Faithand talked for a little while and yeah wait so you were having sex with this guy Antichrist the Antichrist yes but I didn't know but it was the very last time that I saw him after after consistent and and my husband knows this story I've i' talked with him to make

Faithsure he's comfortable with me talking about this but yeah um yeah so I mean if anyone is who's watching you know is is curious like sometimes like this stuff

Brian Atlasis legit like this was a very real experience and is crazy so but yeah but you said this you said this man was essentially just an atheist college man who I met when I was

Brian Atlasdebating celibacy was first starting out to know God so you met him you were interested in pursuing uh Christ you were interested in you were trying to be

Faithcelibate but he veered you off the path a bit on this on your cacy I it wasn't that I was even because I wasn't fully committed to Christ yet so I wasn't intentionally trying to be celibate I just was because I just I at the time I

Faithwas I was self-isolating it was my post-party phase I was self-isolating I didn't want to have anything to do with anyone and so I I just happened to meet this guy through through wait just a couple questions sure sure uh you met

Brian Atlashim how did you meet him um I met him through work through work yeah and you said you did have sex with him how quickly after meeting him did you have sex with him um I think like four months four months

Faithfour months mhm cuz we would just see each other at work and he would take he would walk me home after work atheist yeah yeah but we we never really talk we never really got to that point because at the time I wasn't like really oh were

Faithyou guys like not dating for the that period of time no and and I fully regret it and I fully advise against it so yeah but but so four months and then you guys were hooking up for how long um just it

Faithwas only like three like three times that was the third time three times that was the third time that that happened you waited four months and okay well it was cuz he would he would only be at work occasionally he kind of was like

Faiththe it was like the I I was I was a server at the at a restaurant and so sometimes when it would get really really packed he would kind of he would host and everything so um okay yeah um

Brian Atlasgood times but then when just I forgot if you already answered this sure you're married uh did you wait until marriage to for carinal knowledge with your husband no and I yeah and I think you

Faithanswered that yeah I I and again I I advise against it but there was a there was a point it was when we first it was when we first started started dating and um I'm much I'm you know we're both much stronger um in our faith now but um when

Faithwe first started dating you know we weren't um uh we yeah and it got to a point where I was getting a lot of like conviction and everything and I would I would pray about it and I'd open up my Bible and all of a sudden like all I could see was like you know celibacy

Faithcelibacy like everywhere and I was like okay this is definitely like okay yeah and so and and we had to talk about it and I was like yeah I'm just I'm just not comfortable with this and and it's been really good and or and it was really good because we were able to whenever we had disagreements we could

Faiththink about like we think through things more logically and everything and it was it was just better and allar around healthier and I and I definitely think that's why yeah uh final notes here from Eden Eden you said that you're in a

Brian Atlascommitted age Gap relationship with your boyfriend who's 32 you are 21 correct correct okay um you tell us your craziest dating

Edenstory um so this happened when I was 19 I was um dating this doctor in s Francisco and he was 40 years

Edenold yeah pretty crazy um what kind of doctor he was a podiatrist I don't know foot doctor foot doctor they can get it he didn't have a foot fetish though

Edenso I would guess that that would be bad if you were a foot doctor have foot fetish but um yeah it was it was really crazy looking back on it um it was

Edensomething I got super invested in at the time just because I was so so young and naive and he kind of like I mean we it was super intense we went on like trips to Napa I mean he bought me designer

Edengifts and we were going to concerts and stuff like that and um I don't know he was just like promising me the world and stuff and so I um you know me being 19

Edenand stupid I was just like okay this man loves me because he's saying he does but um yeah after after we had sex though I I got home and I was blocked but looking

Brian Atlasback on it there were a lot what wait hold on and I have some pre-show notes here so perhaps I can prompt it so he you're 40 or excuse me he was 40 he was 40 he's a doctor you were 19 he was

Brian Atlastaking you on expensive dates bought you luxury gifts uh he was fun intellectual conversations Christian good morals although that seems dubious yeah overall

Brian Atlasthe perfect package right um how long were you you said you guys had sex once and then ghosted like he into the mic

Edenyeah so I obviously didn't have sex with him initially and so this happened over like a span of 3 months okay and so I had sex with him like at the end of 3

Brian Atlasmonths three months three months yeah this guy waited 3 months to have sex one time are you sure he wasn't like married or anything like that I mean he lived alone but I mean he could have been

Edencloser to the mic wait so okay couple questions here um how did you meet him um it was on Tinder actually you met him on Tinder yeah he just like randomly asked me if I wanted to go to a concert okay and how many um so you it was

Brian Atlasthree-month period of time but like how frequently would you see him once a week twice a week um I would say average every every couple weeks maybe three weeks dur oh so you only maybe went on

Brian Atlashow many times did you see him before you guys I would say we saw each other like five times five times okay so three months but only hung out every day and I mean he would just every day really constant like phone calls he lived in

Brian Atlasyour city no he lived in San Francisco and where did you live presno how far is that like an hour away or a couple hours yeah would you drive to see him I would but he would he' pay for your gas and stuff okay um can she just put the mic

Edenin her oh yeah that might be better um so you would talk every day for like how long an hour or something I mean just like throughout the whole day phone calls

Edenreally yeah and I mean it was like super intense because he would like talk about okay so sorry go ahead he would talk about how you know he loved me and like wanted to make plans for the future and

Brian Atlasobviously he was just filling my head with whatever I wanted to hear so that I would damn bro this guy okay I got some I got some thoughts on this dude but um

Brian Atlasso he was doing all these nice things um you had sex and then you did a complete 360 you got home and you were

Brian Atlasyou were blocked right um did he communicate with you at all like did he say why do you have any suspicions as to

Brian Atlaswhy he did this or I mean into the mic no he didn't say anything I hadn't spoke to him spoken wa so okay you guys so let's let's break this down you're on

Brian Atlasyour fifth date or whatever you guys had a great whatever date one thing leads to another you have you have sex um I mean I drove back he kisses you goodbye everything's all hunky D he was

Brian Atlaslike I'll see you next time and then as soon as I got home nothing like after having sex nothing's strange or anything no it seemed completely fine everything was good you go back home you send them a text and it's like green or some [ __ ]

Brian Atlasyeah yeah and you've not heard anything from this guy no did you try to call him I did yeah obviously it didn't go and you never got through

Edenright damn bro holy [ __ ] there wait so okay uh I did dodge a bullet though looking back on it cuz there were

Edena lot of red flags I remember one night he um you know we were drinking and he showed me this book that he had actually like on an iPad that he had made and it was like a collection of all of the

Rainawomen that he's ever been with wait a book yeah like wait oh my God it's like a um do you

Millennial Milliethink you're in it now oh she oh yeah for sure wait hold on he when you say page like 330 he's a he's a seral cake finger

EdenDipper when uh when he showed you the book is it just was it names was it photos names um like messages between them and what the [ __ ] profile pictures

Brian Atlasyeah narcissist sociopath it was like insane wait what are those books called where it's like uh there's there's a scrapbook scrapbook this guy's [ __ ]

Edenscrapbooking holy [ __ ] wait so how many girls were in this [ __ ] I mean the mic I mean I saw at

Brian Atlasleast like 10 but I mean after he kept showing me I was like I don't want to see this anymore like how thick was the book hold on no it was like you get one of the George RR Martin [ __ ] no it was on an iPad so song oh oh okay never

Edenmind never mind I mean there were chapters so it was a Kindle there was chapters God damn what the [ __ ] he would give feedback on it like he would like write how many chapters a yel

Brian Atlasreview honestly yeah my God wait so this guy was telling you he wanted a future he wanted kids even or oh yeah definitely and and you had sex once yeah and one of the weirdest things like

Edenlooking back on it he was like you would look so sexy pregnant and I'm like that is just such a weird thing to say

KishaI don't even I'm wow that's crazy could the sex have been was the sex bad um no comment could there be chapters of bad like just bad people n that's that

Kishaseems weird yeah it was like out of a movie honestly of people like with just reviews like Yelp reviews mind you like in high school I never dated or did anything like that so I was very like

Edennaive and this was kind of like the first experience I had had with a man wait were you a virgin um at the time yeah wait so he that was your first time

Brian AtlasGod yeah that's right so he had the big book of virgins holy F [ __ ] maybe I don't know I mean there old there was was his name Tristan Tate was his name Tristan Tate holy [ __ ]

Brian Atlaswait I'm going to send the asteroid on this one holy [ __ ] bro this is wait actually you know what I'm going to send the asteroid but then I'm going to send the [ __ ] new C on oh my God but yeah there were like older on has anybody

Faithbeen watching Fallout on Amazon it's kind of it's okay do you think like afterwards he would just get like after sex with all these wom you'd be like tear diary today like da you know today I took this girl's virginity and just

Kishablocked her on everything and never talked to her like and like a whole layout of what happened like that's just so that sounds like so creepy it's so

TTS/Background Voicesick that I don't know man that sounds like a lot of work that sounds like a lot of work to like [ __ ] once yeah and throw it away like that's very

Brian Atlasmeticulous use a condom that's very weird yeah bro imagine doing all this [ __ ] to [ __ ] a girl once with a condom tind anyways bro what something in Brian just want to

Kishawatch the world burn I mean it was probably he just wanted to like know that he take take the V and blood of virgins like left right in Cent it was more about like

Millennial Millieattainability I would say [ __ ] maybe he's like a like his fetish is taking girls virginities and he just moves on and he has a [ __ ] book about it

Millennial Milliedisgusting that's kind of that's demonic dude I feel like this is enough info for hold on never mind never mind uh this is kind of making my

Millennial Milliepoint though about the bakery I'm just saying right and so I wanted to yeah dude that's that's BR she's ruined I'm kidding I'm sorry but like but like bro that's some

Edenbaggage right is that some baggage or you you chill about it I mean well I wanted to bring up the point about like ageg gapped relationships because obviously that was a situation where I was taken advantage of but you know

Edensince meeting my boyfriend now I've completely like changed my morals and I he like um wait can you let her finish she has two times the whole time can she just

Andrew Wilsonfinish I she was like half his age yeah I'm just I'm asking a question that's all is that okay your majesty is it okay for me to get some clarification I'm just is there anything else we can

Edendo for you so anyway so back to this I was just I was just wondering for the purposes of clarification what do you mean taking advantage of well like I went into it thinking that you know we

Millennial Milliewere going to be together forever obviously so isn't that kind of fraudulent like to be like basically he put on to you that no he totally

Andrew Wilsonthe whole thing was just a big kind of yeah that is being taken advantage of it hard to do to a 40-year-old woman if you that's a good argument against

Andrew Wilsonvoting rights isn't it so anyway question I mean if a if a 18-year-old is too dumb to make relationship standards why should she

Andrew Wilsoncancel out the 40-year-old vote makes no sense I have a question experience but that's the argument that's the argument back I'm not saying she's done but what I am saying is is that no he did come to

Andrew Wilsonher let's not forget this part of the story with a big book of I [ __ ] her and she was like well you did say there were red flags you did say there were red flags were cuz you said you're 19

Edenyou don't know what oh my God that's so crazy bro that's a you got girlfriends right like that's kind of

Brian Atlasripf how to doy old yeah well sure then why should they cancel out their votes I don't even think this is an age thing I don't even think it's an age thing I

Brian Atlasthink a guy I think a guy her age would be just as capable of finessing her virginity like guys her age do this [ __ ] all the time too financial means and all that they

Millennial Milliedon't need them it would have been harder for them they they just go at it a different way men can be more skilled as they get older if if that's what they want to do they they've picked up a lot of tricks along the way but there's

Brian Atlasplenty of 1920 Oney old [ __ ] boys who are like hyper attractive I'm assuming this 40-year-old guy despite his his status and finances I mean probably guys your age are more physically attractive

Andrew Wilsonwould you agree he was very attractive okay all right well yeah he all well okay okay so I'm debunked so he's a hot podiatrist with the big books I humter and you just like okay we're doing this

Daliahso your first so this was kind of like your first encounter with a man and he happened to be 40 and he was 40 years old in the age Gap between that so do

Daliahyou think that that um made you put up a wall for your next relationship I know that you're in age Gap relationship now but did you you know kind of step back

Daliahand think to yourself like oh you know a 40-year-old my last relationship he was 40 and it was age Gap and this happened like did you have like I don't know kind

Edenof walls up to get into a new age Gap relationship 100% um when my boyfriend first you know like when when he and I first started dating he was like obviously trying to or well

Edenhe was telling me that he wanted a relationship with me and I was like very against that and I really made him like

Edenprove himself to me so huh interesting interesting but yeah I think that um some of the positives from like an ageg

Edengaap relationship is that they can kind of guide you to making better decisions like life choices and so I think that I take that with me and this new experience really quick going around the

Brian Atlastable uh your thoughts on age Gap relationships for against neutral what's the oldest guy you date I

Brian Atlasguess it's going to be the ick I'm going to say against you're you're against yeah like you wouldn't date like I just a 39-year-old like farri extremist Christian

Edennationalist no sorry 40 is it 40 40 40 my bad you wouldn't did okay just sorry Andrew in my experience though like with dating or not dating but like talking to

Edenyounger guys it's like they were only after one thing and so obviously he was too but I mean they never even like mentioned like wanting a relationship or

Daliahanything like that so I yeah didn't know any better I've never experienced it myself but I'm don't think that I'm for

Brian Atlasit sorry what's the oldest guy you date for you two I don't if you answered but at 19 into the mic please quick probably 28 I'd say no more than

Daliah10 years okay that's pretty de decent I'm 20 and honestly I probably wouldn't go older than my brother and he's 23 so I know that's like not a my parents are 5 years

Kishaapart and I know a lot of other people but um I probably say like maybe like 10 or so years so probably like 38 or something yeah I kind of have this Theory and

Rainamaybe it's just like I don't know but basically I have this theory that if I'm always like younger than the guy I'm with then I'll always be young and beautiful to

Faithhim um I'm I'm for it I would say 10 years but also as you get older then you can do a have a larger and larger age

Millennial MillieGap possibly right I'm for it as long as the man going into it has honorable intentions okay that's fair I'm not against age relationships well you're

Millennial Millienot against it Andrew or the woman I mean we we could have a situation where there's a woman with there's nothing whoever's the older party I still have not heard a good argument yet I mean

Andrew Wilsonit's not like for the the age Gap relationship being problematic if you consider women at 1819 to be adults what could your argument possibly be from

Andrew Wilsonthis adult dating another adult I would love to know other than it gives me the ick first of all I never said that don't put words I didn't say you did I said other than that cuz that's where it's going to go I promise that's not what I

Reneewas going to say I haven't really anything in that nature because you can take advantage of her go ahead uh well no I just think you've experienced so much less of life like isn't it pretty obvious that you wouldn't know as many

Andrew Wilsonthings you haven't been with as many partners you that to Lear why why how how in the world could you tie that into it being bad because you're just not at the same place in life and is bad do you mean immoral I no I wasn't saying it was

Reneeit's not immoral uh I never I never said it was but I think it so it just gives you the hick no I was I was saying I was saying you're at different places in your life

Andrew Wilsonso you're going to be fundamentally incompatible a person takes advantage of another person is it immoral yes okay so then if your argument is there's a potential here for a person to take advantage of you but they may not and

Reneeyou have no moral argument for it then what could your objection possibly be other than yuck I I just told you because you're at different stages of your life and one person has learned less they're more likely to be able to take advantage of

Andrew Wilsonyou right that's what I literally just said you would argue so I literally just said the only argument that you could possibly have is that there's a potential however there's a potential for somebody your same age to take advantage of you too that's true so what

Andrew WilsonI never said I was against age relation I literally did you said only 10 years why not 12 why not 13 um I think we all said like 10 years

Reneego on just say well didn't you say yourself that it's unattractive for men to be with INF ask you what is I'm sure that men's seed is getting worse as they're getting older unfortunately can I ask you a question is it just the I no

Reneeit's because I have biological receptors in my brain that can sense a man's fertility and it's going down would that still be the ick so that would still be the ick if you're not making a a moral Argent the ick is whatever you define it

Andrew Wilsonas this could be the ick if you want it to be the ick you see this cup be the I it it could be the ick and inside that cup would be your logical arguments can you you want to take a drink yeah there

Brian Atlasyou go my God now get up and bow camera chug chug chug anyway Andrew is the one with the beer um oh my question is but like and maybe I'm just misunderstanding a little bit I don't think you object to her

Andrew Wilsonhaving a preference to date someone younger right that's just I just want to know an actual argument that you can come up with which is moral or why you thinkal argument one person has more life experience you just said it wasn't

Andrew Wilsonimmoral 5 seconds ago I feel like can you do you want to reconcile this at some point it's not IM take another drink of your logical cup there go ahead who said it's a cup It's actually an ick

Reneewell then take a drink of your ick what I was saying is that it's immoral if they do it but you were preventing me from saying that like it's immoral altogether because it's only a

Reneepossibility it's not guaranteed so then it's not immoral it's possibly immoral there you we just found it out is possibly immoral from your standard yeah so is premarital sex possibly

Andrew Wilsonimmoral ask you about the possibility of it being immoral rather I asked you if it is immoral I fism it's not fundamentally immoral to

Andrew Wilsondate someone a different age than you right that's my whole point the only objection you would have to it then would be that you have a preference against it no I would say that you're at

Andrew Wilsondifferent stages of Life Of Life development brain is less developed before you're 25 scientifically uh first of all that's not true but second of all yes it's not true it is true your brain

Andrew Wilsonfly you're taking two studies which are taken out of context but here's the counterargument to that as well past 25 it begins to degrade yeah that's right that prefrontal cortex begins to degrade

Andrew Wilsonafter 25 so if you were 40 wouldn't you have a more degraded prefrontal for cortex and so by this logic wouldn't a man then at 40 also be right around the same maturity as a 20 25 your argument

Andrew Wilsonis wrong because we haven't calculated the rate of degradation as compared to the rate before the for me right in front of us so do okay wait a second tell me the number tell me the number tell me the number

Andrew Wilsontell me study showing me that it's 25 at all what's it called by who since you you want to be hypers specific it called I don't but I'm just using I'm using the same argument that you used on me over

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