Andrew Wilson vs. Feminists! Scumbag Doctor GHOSTS Her After Taking Her V-CARD?! | Dating Talk #152

Date: 2024-04-15
Duration: 8h 15m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background Voice(audience)
SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson (alt segment)(guest)
SPEAKER_02Raina(guest)
SPEAKER_03Faith(guest)
SPEAKER_04Daliah(guest)
SPEAKER_05Alicia(guest)
SPEAKER_06Kisha(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08TTS/Donation Voice(audience)
SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_12Millennial Millie(guest)
SPEAKER_13Renee(guest)
SPEAKER_14Eden(guest)

Key Moments

00:03:26
IntroBrian asks guests to introduce themselves; reveals notable panel: 21yo married Faith, former OnlyFans creator Raina, 27yo Kisha with trafficked sister.

"please tell us your name age location and occupation"

00:04:45
OtherRaina introduces herself as a 21yo who has had OnlyFans for 2 years and is looking for a new job after quitting.

"my name is Raina and I'm 21 and um my occupation I've had only fans for the past two years"

00:17:10
OtherKisha reveals she was briefly married; husband put her in hospital; her sister was trafficked and she has not seen her in 4 years.

"he had put me in the hospital... my sister was trafficked... I haven't seen her for four years"

01:20:20
OtherRenee says "I wish I was aborted" as a hypothetical argument for abortion rights; panel takes it seriously and checks on her wellbeing; she clarifies it was rhetorical.

"I wish my mom had aborted me... I wasn't alive today because my childhood was rough"

01:35:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson argues women should not have the right to vote; argues rights are social constructs enforced only by men. Brian quickly disavows the position on camera.

"men are the enforcers of Rights... only men should be able to have the stake and the claim to vote"

01:41:09
QuoteBrian publicly disavows Andrew's women-shouldn't-vote position to protect channel from cancellation.

"women should vote I'm I'm fine with it not trying to get cancelled"

02:44:37
QuoteDaliah rates herself a solid 8 in looks.

"do a solid eight solid eight"

06:23:20
OtherRaina recounts visiting LA for modeling; her agent had no real license; she received death threats at the model house on her first trip to LA.

"apparently my agent didn't even have a real license... when I got to the model house I was getting death threats"

07:03:10
OtherFaith recounts waking up with unexplained dark bruises after sleeping with an atheist coworker she describes as possibly an "Antichrist" type; never saw him again; experience drove her to celibacy and Christianity.

"I woke up with um like things bruis like bruises and what the [bleep]... really really dark bruises and I don't know how they got there"

07:18:23
OtherEden recounts being a 19yo virgin who dated a 40yo podiatrist from San Francisco for 3 months; he took her virginity then immediately blocked her on all platforms. He kept a digital Kindle scrapbook of every woman with photos and written reviews.

"after after we had sex though I I got home and I was blocked... there was chapters"

07:19:30
QuoteBrian's shocked reaction to Eden's doctor ghosting story.

"holy F*** bro this is... he had the big book of virgins"

08:08:20
QuoteRaina discloses her body count as 21; notes she knows a civilian man with 23 so she is "doing better than most."

"uh like 21... I know a guy with 23 and he wasn't even a sex worker"

08:13:10
OtherBrian announces this was the longest stream ever, breaking the 8-hour mark, then raids WowGrandma78 (82yo World of Warcraft streamer) on Twitch.

"this is our longest show ever we broke the f*** eight hour stream mark... we are going to raid... WowGrandma78 she's 82 she plays World of Warcraft"

Topics Discussed

00:03:26
Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation, relationship status. Notable: Kisha reveals briefly married (husband involved in trafficking, put her in hospital); Raina reveals 2-year OnlyFans career; Faith reveals she is 21 and married.

00:07:40
Relationship status round

Brian goes around the table asking about current relationship status, longest relationship, how it ended, and recent dating activity. Renee: on-again-off-again (ex texted her that day). Raina: recently single after 2-year relationship with ~40yo adult film performer. Faith: met husband at club in Berkeley. Kisha: was briefly married, husband became adversarial. Millie: common-law married 12 years, two kids. Eden: 1.5-year age-gap relationship with 32yo.

00:30:30
Men play chess, women play checkers

Kisha presents her father's philosophy that men and women think differently: men play chess (long-term strategy, compartmentalization), women play checkers. Discussion of whether feminists in power are being manipulated by men behind the scenes. Panel debates and partially agrees.

01:04:00
Deal breakers round

Brian asks each guest for their deal breakers in a partner. Renee: no passion in life, no style. Daliah: disrespect, disloyalty. Kisha: man who does not put God first; unequally yoked. Raina: mama's boy, porn-watching, feminine men. Faith: passive/feminine men. Millie: not loyal, no God relationship. Alicia: addiction (vice as mistress). Eden: no goals/career ambition, too much partying. Andrew: cruelty to children and elderly.

01:05:00
Porn, OnlyFans, and body count

Discussion of whether prior adult content work is a deal breaker. Raina (former OF creator) says it depends on context; deal breaker is active habit. Panel analyzes psychology: ex watching porn -> Raina started OF. Brian's position: sex work history is 100% deal breaker for long-term relationship.

01:13:20
Abortion debate

Extended debate triggered by hypothetical: Renee says if she got pregnant tomorrow she would consider abortion because she wants to go to law school. Andrew Wilson argues from pro-life position. Debate covers: when life begins (24-week viability vs conception), Scott Peterson double-homicide analogy, financial readiness argument, adoption and foster care. Renee mentions she sometimes does not want to live; panel addresses this carefully.

01:24:15
Who is a feminist (panel round)

Brian asks each guest if they consider themselves a feminist. Renee: identifies as black feminist (intersectional). Andrew: not a feminist; argues Millie IS a feminist by egalitarian definition. Millie: not a feminist; reformed feminist; believes in traditional gender roles. Faith: not a feminist. Alicia: not a feminist. Eden: qualified yes (equality + traditional roles). Kisha: not a feminist; Christian. Daliah: not political.

01:24:15
Women's voting and Christianity — patriarchy debate

Andrew Wilson argues Christian ethics require patriarchy; female pastors are "fake Christians." Millie partially agrees on traditional roles but rejects women-shouldn't-vote. Panel debates whether submission in marriage means husband has absolute financial authority. Millie says husband manages joint account; she trusts his judgment.

01:35:00
Women's suffrage debate

Andrew Wilson argues women should not have the vote; bases argument on: (1) rights are social constructs enforced by men, (2) only enforcers of rights deserve voting stakes. Millie and Renee argue from constitutional/god-given rights framework. Extended debate on whether rights are real vs social constructs. Brian disavows Andrew's position on-air ("women should vote, I'm fine with it").

01:46:00
Military conscription and women

Panel debates whether gender equality requires women to be subject to military draft. Eden says she would be "not opposed to it." Millie argues women should not be drafted due to reproductive role and physical differences. Andrew runs population/polygamy argument. Brian notes he personally does not support female conscription.

02:44:00
AR-15 in bedroom — gun ownership as red flag?

Chat scenario: perfect man in every way but has a loaded AR-15 next to bed. Renee: would ask why; would want it secured away from future kids. Kisha and others: not a deal breaker if he follows gun laws. Faith: depends on context — goofy college kid vs. grown man. Andrew/Brian: self-defense discussion; AR-15 fires small 5.56 bullets.

02:44:37
Self-ratings (1-10 looks)

Brian has Stiffler (chat) ask each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Daliah: 8. Raina: 8.5. Background voice: 6. Millie declines to rate but chat can rate her. Kisha: 4. Andrew rates his wife at 6. Debate over whether self-rating is meaningful or gendered.

03:06:40
Physical attractiveness: male vs female standards

Extended debate on whether women can objectively rate their own attractiveness. Andrew argues women deflect the question by adding non-physical qualities. Kisha argues women gauge attractiveness through internalized male gaze. Discussion of fertility as basis for male attraction to women. Andrew rates his wife at 6 physically.

06:15:00
Hoe to housewife: can promiscuous women reform?

Panel debates whether women with promiscuous or sex-work backgrounds can make good long-term partners. Kisha (Christian): references Rahab from Bible; reformed individuals deserve family. Brian: women can change but men are not obligated to marry them after. Alicia: shares personal redemption arc around alcoholism. Andrew: hypothetical about son wanting to marry 250-scene OF performer.

06:15:00
Raina's adult industry story

Raina elaborates: started OnlyFans at ~19 living on her own; recruited by message. No family financial support. Ex-boyfriend was ~40yo adult film performer; narcissistic/abusive. He cheated; she found him searching for new girls on YouTube. Also recounts: modeling agency in LA; agent had no real license; received death threats at model house on first visit to LA.

06:33:20
Faith's personal story: party phase, Antichrist encounter, marriage

Faith describes freshman year at ASU: feminist/astrology phase, party culture, depression. Describes relationship with atheist coworker she slept with 3 times after 4-month slow-burn; woke up with unexplained dark bruises; never saw him again; describes this as encounter with "Antichrist-type." Became born-again Christian; met husband at club; married at 21.

07:18:23
Eden's doctor ghosting story

Eden (21yo) recounts: at age 19, met 40yo podiatrist from San Francisco on Tinder. 3-month courtship; daily calls; 5 in-person dates; he promised love and future. He took her virginity; as soon as she got home, he had blocked her on everything. He had a digital Kindle scrapbook with chapters on each woman he'd slept with (reviews, photos, profile pics). Brian/panel: he was a serial virginity-collector. Panel reacts with shock; Eden says she dodged a bullet.

08:06:52
Body count round

Brian asks each guest their body count. Renee: declines initially; confirms less than 10. Raina: 21. Millie: single digits (between her and future husband; been with current partner since age 20). Daliah: declines. Andrew: declines; teased to multiply whatever he says by 3. Panel agrees men have the right to care about body count.

Transcript

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00:57:03
Faithagainst masculinity but actually seeing the beauty in it but a lot of that is because men right now are they're not giving us the opportunities to appreci appreciate masculinity as much because you have a lot of like is also because
00:57:15
Faithyour husband won't put up with any of that [ __ ] yes yeah yeah won't put up with none of that but not but not in a chauvinistic nasty way but he'll tell me you know he'll tell me logically of like hey you're overthinking which is you
00:57:27
Faithknow like you were saying like chill out you know and and I appreciate that and I appreciate that masculine reflection um because it does help me be able to operate better and on a more logical level but because I was vacillating so
00:57:41
Faithmuch between the femininity and masculinity I was so much more mentally exhausted and depressed and and it's crazy because I was like screw men blah blah blah but then I would go home at
00:57:51
Faithnight and be like I I want I want someone to take care of me I want to be a wife everything you know so but I do understand what you were saying and I um and I just think that it's because there's not a lot of healthy masculinity
00:58:04
Millennial Milliefor for men and that's partially our fault as women right now because we're trying to turn things into a matriarchy can I just say something to you um although maybe you don't have your father in your home or or as much in
00:58:15
Millennial Millieyour life as you deserve you always will have heavenly father and God in your life and if you let him be in your heart he will be be there with you and you can
00:58:27
Millennial Millieknow that he loves you and the other thing is that if you follow his word it will naturally protect you from these things so if if you're following the
00:58:37
Millennial Millieword of God the Father your father then you will be able to have some protection and be able to you know uh I guess protect yourself from some of the vulnerable uh things that you might have
00:58:48
Reneeso do you agree with that Rene um no I'm I'm 19 and my parents have not been together since I was like three I've not had a dad forever and
00:59:01
Reneethat whole time my mom was pushing the Bible on me and you know she said the same things you did you're going to end up getting manipulated by men you're too much of a people pleaser you know you're too emotional like of course I've heard
00:59:13
Andrew Wilsonit before of course Oh daddy issues and this no well okay well not about the God part because it oh just not about that part
00:59:25
Reneejust about all of the things all the other things no disrespect to people's religion but I think if you're a certain age especially my age and if you are very set on like what you think like I'd
00:59:35
Aliciasay I'm I'm like just skeptical in general like it's not even like oh my God are you skeptical of your skepticism uh no that's can I give you an example about something that I noticed with my
00:59:48
Aliciadaughter if I want my daughter to do something she's like seven but I have to go tell my husband to show her that this is the right way she trusts me she'll tell me anything she won't tell her dad
01:00:00
Aliciaa lot I mean she will but she's seven she doesn't have a lot the point is though if I really want her to do something I know I have to make him present the idea because she respects
01:00:11
Aliciawhat he has to say more she's more even at 7 more afraid or at least cognizant of disappointing him she's not really worried about disappointing me that's true because i' say I grew up with that
01:00:23
Reneetoo even though my dad wasn't in the life I'd say I'd also I also experience that phenomenon and building off of that I would say that I think a lot of me not following the gospel that has to do with my experience in the church which was
01:00:35
Reneepretty bad too like the experiences of both like mother figures and father Figures were just not good to the point where it's like I I would maybe go to another church another time but it's just like it wasn't for me then it's
01:00:47
Millennial Milliequestion did they judge you did they judge do you feel like this maybe a personal question but do you feel like your father kind of rejected you by not being in your life no it was really early like it was cuz of my mom I know
01:01:01
Millennial Millieit was cuz they hated each other it wasn't cuz of me could have been in your life though right he was he was partially in my life partially okay I just wonder if you're
01:01:12
Millennial Millieyou know rejecting God the father has anything to do with feeling rejected by your father no I just think I'm not a religious person and there's a lot of people reject religion who have fathers
01:01:22
Millennial Millieyeah yeah right mhm yeah but we we all reject God at one point or or another in our life for different reasons right like I when I was younger I'm not here to judge you when I was younger what
01:01:34
Millennial Millieabout the outliers they don't do that okay yeah sure you're right and I'm speaking in generalities okay so you know when I was younger there was a point in time when I was about your age and I decided I was going to be an
01:01:45
Millennial Millieatheist and I was going to kind of reject Christianity and how I was raised and brought up and all I can say is that it brought a lot of just suffering and
01:01:58
Millennial Milliebad things happening to me and I wouldn't recommend that for anyone and you kind of have to in some way some of us in our journey in life we have to find out the hard way that you know when
01:02:09
Millennial Millieyou when you don't want to follow God's laws and his Commandments in his word you actually find out that you find yourself in these situations it's almost like he's giving us a guide through
01:02:19
Millennial Milliethrough the Bible of how we can live our lives and not be hurt and not have things bad happen as much as they could right so he's giving us these these Commandments not because he wants to
01:02:29
Millennial Millietell us what to do not not like an authoritarian he's coming from it like a a loving paternal father figure that wants to keep you safe and wants for you to only have blessings and good things
01:02:41
Millennial Milliein your life for you and when you realize that that's when you know like okay he loves us he wants us to be safe he wants good things you know and I know you probably heard these things before
01:02:53
Millennial Millieand like I said you're just going to have to go through life and and go on that Journey yourself but I hope you eventually know that you know God loves you and jesuses she doesn't believe any of that [ __ ] like look at her she
01:03:03
Millennial Milliedoesn't either for a really long time I admire your advice and I definitely I think about it got to her does believe I got through to her she you know what don't judge people because you never know should judge people there so many
01:03:17
Millennial MillieChristians out there who originally were the biggest atheists or the biggest anti- God people out there and they literally turn around they didn't Le it on a podcast they usually got like
01:03:27
Reneekicked their ass well you never know I've been baptized by the way already when I like 10 well that's great from a secularist perspective if you can't you got to take the worldview out before you
01:03:39
Andrew Wilsoncan replace it with something better and the thing is nothing better than God but from a from the secularist perspective see she's a skeptic she told you right I'm skeptical you have provideed me Pro there people that but the why like the
01:03:51
Kishawhy matters right and the Bible tells us in Isaiah that we're supposed to the fatherless the Widow and the poor and she said that while she was in church she had a bad experience and as Christians it's our responsibility and
01:04:03
Kishaour duty to make sure that we are showing the love of God and Jesus Christ in our life by destroying all arguments yes no but by like you know helping by destroying all arguments so that's what the the whole point is tear down the
01:04:15
Andrew Wilsonworldview before it can be replaced something secist starts no the world view an ideology can be attached to the worldview usually is attached to the worldview but when you look at Christian it the Christian ethic is a worldview
01:04:27
Andrew Wilsonit's a prism from which you view the world it's not just a religion that you follow it's not just the personal relationship with Christ it's actually the prism it even even with when it comes to logic when you're talking about logic things which are logically possible to a secularist are not
01:04:40
Andrew Wilsonlogically possible to a Christian logical possibility does not even exist in our worldview the same way that it does the secular worldview that's why it's so important to break down the secularist first before you can replace with actual Dogma that makes sense
01:04:53
Andrew Wilsonusually you can't because what ends up happening is this is my experience it's no offense to you guys all right I'm glad everybody's out preaching the gospel I'm just saying that what I see over and over and over again is you'll
01:05:05
Andrew Wilsonpreach to a s they don't give a [ __ ] they don't care they're like I've heard this I've heard exactly I've heard this [ __ ] 2,000 time don't give a [ __ ] the only thing I've ever noted that's ever
01:05:16
Andrew Wilsonworked is to actually destroy the worldview as it exists from the secular perspective granting the secular perspective is true showing him how absurd it is then he can replace it with the truth but that's just my
01:05:27
Kishaexperience otherwise it just seems to me like you're just talking to a wall well I wasn't I was actually implying something different I was actually um implying taking action not actually
01:05:36
Kishawords so I was saying that it's our duty to actually go out and help the people like the fatherless the Widow and the poor and do what is necessary to help those people be in a better situation so
01:05:48
Kishathat they can see the love of Jesus and then want to accept it because Jesus in the Bible like he healed people before he preached and things like that right so that's kind of the approach I was trying to take yeah and just because you
01:06:00
Brian Atlashad a bad I do have to move on I do have to move on uh let me get a couple of the chats and we did have grid one was my dad he wanted to ask the ladies what are two deal breaker characteristics in a
01:06:13
Reneeman we'll start with you we'll go around the table go ahead deal beard Breakers man that one sounds a hard one I feel
01:06:24
Reneelike I need does anyone have one that's like at the top of their head what about you um a deal breaker two deal breakers
01:06:35
Daliahum I would say like disrespect just undering dis being disrespectful yeah just disrespectful and um maybe yeah just disrespectful to not
01:06:48
Daliahonly myself but people around them that's something that I don't like and then um maybe just not being loyal I think everybody should be
01:06:59
Kishaloyal I would say for me um it would have to be uh someone who respects and serves God above themsel
01:07:11
Kishaum yo sky thank you for the gifted 20 memberships uh so these are deal breakers yeah if they like if they don't do that um yeah if they don't if they don't respect God above thems and serve
01:07:24
KishaGod above thems because then I can't trust them to be loyal to the family or me um and then I would say if they're not um if they're not like a genuinely kind just
01:07:35
Brian Atlasperson okay yeah any Renee any anything come to mind if they have no passions in life no passion like they just want to work a desk job or something um so they they need to be ambitious yeah or just
01:07:47
Reneelike have something that you like doing besides making money what about video games what if they're passionate about video games at least they're passionate about something you know okay I I meant more like
01:07:57
Reneecareer-wise like they're passionate about a certain career path huh yeah okay was there another one another deal um if they can't dress they can't dress
01:08:09
Reneewhat do you mean like no style or I mean I guess I could I could fix that uh that one's like more of a joke um I don't know if they're you need like a super stylish disloyal I I don't know it's
01:08:21
Rainait's all like kind of the same yeah um I think a deal breaker for me would be if he's like a mama's boy um I don't really like like whenever their mom like if
01:08:33
Rainathey're like super mama's boy and like kind of like acting feminine I feel like okay and then also if they watch like adult content or anything like that I okay it's a deal breaker if they watch
01:08:45
Rainaporn yeah okay don't you do porn she used to no I did it for two months back in 2022 and I have haven't done it in like since then
01:08:57
Andrew Wilsonso is that what informed that deal breaker huh is that what informs the deal breaker sorry what do you mean like is it because you did that that you see that now it's like a huge I think even before that I had a before I even
01:09:10
Rainastarted that I was in a relationship with this one guy and uh it kind of started then so way before all that and I I like knew that he would watch it and it would make me really upset so oh wait
01:09:20
Brian Atlaseven while you were no that was way before that yeah well but what do you think is a bigger deal breaker a guy who watches porn or somebody who used to do
01:09:32
Rainaporn I don't know it just depends on who the guy is because some people have like moved on completely from their lives and erased that completely and like you know rebuilt themselves so well the
01:09:44
Rainainternet's forever though right yeah but I mean I mean I already dated a porn star so uh I kind of know what that's like um so I mean well I'm not really framing the question for from your point
01:09:55
Brian Atlasof view in terms of is it a deal breaker for you to date a porn star or an next porn star I'm saying do you think it's a bigger deal breaker or red flag perhaps
01:10:06
Brian Atlasuh for for from the guy's perspective to date someone who used to do porn versus from the girl perspective to date somebody who currently consumes
01:10:16
Rainaporn um I probably would say like if you're still actively watching it and it's like still a habit in a part of your life I would I would say that's probably worse than let's say
01:10:27
Brian Atlashe the consumption is just average what is average to you once a week once or twice a week no I uh like I don't no no what no
01:10:37
Rainaporn like I just don't want no no no no but what's the bigger deal breaker like if you were to compare the two or let's try it just like I said it just kind of depends like I don't let's
01:10:49
Andrew Wilsontry to frame it a different way maybe go ahead let's assume if you were thinking if you had to give an answer on a man's dating preference mhm and you asked him would you rather have a woman who consumed porn once a week or once every
01:11:01
Rainaother week versus one who used to star in porn which would you rather have what do you think he'd say I think he'd probably go after the girl who wants who just watches it yeah so what do you think that the delineation is is it
01:11:13
Andrew Wilsoninformed Again by the fact that used to do it and so you you're just kind of hoping that that's the case no I just that's like a boundary I have that's all yeah yeah but is it informed by the fact that you used to do
01:11:26
Rainait no like I said it started way before that in my first relationship with my first boyfriend so it kind of started then okay mhm did I get an answer to my question though which no you still did
01:11:38
Andrew Wilsonnot the reason I framed that up though was was so if we turn this around kind of show why would your standard be so much different than what their standard yeah but my point of view is just different from everyone's here cuz no
01:11:50
Rainaone's done porn so um that's just right so then it informs your standard that's my whole point I guess so yeah okay I guess the reason I'm asking is
01:12:02
Brian Atlasbecause I don't know if there's a specific term for this you're not really coming to the table I don't know if Clean Hands is the right term but you're not like you used to do porn right mhm so I feel like if you're coming to the
01:12:13
Brian Atlastable with certain potential deal breakers or red flags or baggage doesn't it mean well I guess you can desire anything in the partner but doesn't it it would occur to me that you have to
01:12:25
Brian Atlasgive a little leeway to the potential partners that you're capable of getting I guess so so you're just saying like let my boyfriend watch porn or well you're entitled to have that
01:12:37
Andrew Wilsonpreference that's not what he's saying at all he's just he's just saying if your preference 180° is that you think that men would prefer a woman who
01:12:46
Andrew Wilsonconsume porn once a month or once a week versus dating somebody who was in porn then couldn't you understand why the why the preference reverse would be the same I can totally understand that yeah yeah
01:12:58
Millennial Millieso that's from my own experience so you were bothered by a boyfriend you had watching porn and then you decided to go do porn yeah so what what do you think the psychology is that what is that what
01:13:10
Millennial Milliehappened yeah like I'm trying to analyze the psychology here like the psychology of like okay so she was upset that her boyfriend was watching porn which in a woman's mind they might feel like
01:13:22
Millennial Milliethey're being cheated on right like it felt like a betrayal like cheating on you right and then her response then is were were you guys broken up when you started doing the porn or were you together when you started doing no we
01:13:33
Rainawere broken up and then I did it like two months after that yeah that you said your new relationship that so I met my last partner in the industry
01:13:44
Millennial Millieso do you think that him watching the porn made you feel like those other girls who were doing the porn were better and that you wanted to then go do that because he found that more
01:13:55
Rainainteresting than you I'm just religious so I think if you lust like a lot then it's just kind of like a sin and you should probably just work on that just it's you you guys get what I'm saying right like it's kind of interesting here
01:14:07
Millennial Millieto see that you know she then pursued that it's very ironic I don't know if it's ironic it's it's it's kind of interesting to understand the psychology of what gets a girl to go down the path
01:14:19
Millennial Millieof only fans money yeah it was primarily money Mone I think that there's psychological reasons I also don't have a father was the money a necessity um or
01:14:32
Rainawas it just something like oh I just want more money yeah added benefit um I was like living completely on my own in my own apartment and so I was like I had been struggling mentally for like quite
01:14:42
Rainaa few months I feel like that so right and it was just kind of like I don't know someone messaged me and was like hey you want to make uh, make a bunch you want to make a bunch of money so you can go buy [ __ ] you want you're like
01:14:54
Brian Atlasyeah and of course you know 19-year-old me I lived on my own no I none of my parents have ever helped me out financially we are going to move on uh just one deal breaker please if you can
01:15:03
Faithuh one deal breaker in a man passivity SL femininity passivity SL what do you mean um just being a big wimp baby having me to be the man um I think it's
01:15:15
Faithgross I think it's disgusting I think you should act like an adult be an adult care for me um unless they sick yeah well of of course even a cold even a cold is level 10 oh yeah no no I know I
01:15:27
FaithI love I love cooking for him and caring for him and everything but you know it's it's like it's a mutual thing they'll kill a grizzly bear but if they have a cold yeah we all know men like to be babied when they're sick I think that's because their body is like completely
01:15:40
Kishabreaking down from the 10 billion things that they've been overworking themselves to do yes right and that's that's what women are they just can't handle it anymore and then the wives are like you're being such a baby it's like I'm
01:15:50
Millennial Millieabout to die that's actually uh good good point good point uh one deal breaker a deal breaker I would say oh there's a couple
01:16:01
Millennial Milliebut I I would say probably not having a good relationship with God and and essentially that's that's up there but as far as like other more personal ones
01:16:11
Millennial Millieis um any type of sign of not being loyal or cheating sure things what about you uh someone who has Vice a vice and I mean pretty substantial not like a
01:16:23
Aliciasmoking cigarettes no something that would make me the mistress and them the wife or the family like like drugs you mean yeah just something that completely like a heroin
01:16:34
Edenaddict okay okay well just something that would break apart like the dynamic yeah and safety okay um kind of she said I think
01:16:44
Edensomebody that parties too much and too much partying okay yeah and then also just no goals in life or like career aspirations I feel like there are a lot better things that you could be doing
01:16:56
Edenwith your time and I think that it's unattractive when your partner has no drive all right Andrew uh a deal breaker for women sure I'll give you I'll give
01:17:08
Andrew Wilson (alt segment)you two easy ones cruelty to children and the olderly deal breakers massive deal breakers definely that's like for anyone right no not for anyone it's
01:17:19
Andrew Wilsonparticularly like I think you look at the nurturing or what you consider the the nature of woman to be nurturing you know you find some women who talk [ __ ] about kids maybe you don't but in these
01:17:31
Andrew Wilsoncircles you find them all the time anti-natalist people like this actually mock children mock what they call breeders mock what they call women who actually take care of their children mock motherhood right one of the
01:17:44
Andrew Wilsonrepresentations of the view that I have even though feminists hate my guts is I feel like I represent real women uh at and in that worldview better than most because ultimately what I see over and over and
01:17:57
Andrew Wilsonover again from Liberal Progressive scumbags and from the uh liberal atheist mind and from the feminist mind is that they're anti-natalist they hate children
01:18:07
Andrew Wilsonand they hate the elderly and they mock them incessantly oh wow constantly all the time non-stop I would say those are the two if I had to really think about it the two biggest red
01:18:18
Reneeflags any type of feminist who does any mockery of actual motherhood that's the biggest red flag I would run the other direction why did you have to start that with feminist before doesn't feminist
01:18:30
Reneejust someone who wants equality between two genders czy that's where the mindsets from wait can you say that one more time doesn't feminist just mean equality between the two genders is that what that means that's it's the definition sure I'll Grant the
01:18:42
Reneedefinition is that what it means I'm I'm a polysi student yes in our classes it means that someone who's equality how
01:18:51
Reneeum legal equality uh social equality what's social equality uh it it would require a lot of different determinant like the draft would that be social
01:19:03
Andrew Wilsonequality are there any feminist I just wanted to ask you I was asking you why I'm giving you an example no you're asking of how of how well through the
01:19:13
Andrew Wilsonquestion it gives you the example of how you can see where feminists in the the one side of their mouth we'll say that we want social equality and now the other side of their mouth really are not
01:19:23
Andrew Wilsonstriving for actual social equality what they're striving for is supremacy Female Supremacy and this is why you constantly see the victimhood uh and I see it time and time
01:19:34
Andrew Wilsonagain of of what I call Schrodinger's feminist which is I'm an empowered boss [ __ ] I'm awesome and the but the patriarch is oppressing me it's like Well it can't be both either the patriarchy is oppressing you or you're a badass Boss [ __ ] CEO like which one is
01:19:47
Reneeit I wouldn't say the patriarchy is legally oppressive but I'd say there are societal norms and standards that impact women on their daily lives that fundamentally how they act like what knowing that men play chess and women play checkers now I'm scared now I'm
01:19:59
Reneescared to go talk to a man cuz they play chess and now I think I'm not good enough I have impostor syndrome maybe that's my fault for not having a dad but keep
01:20:07
Millennial Milliegoing here's my question to you do you know any feminists that are pro-life uh are feminists pro lifee personally I'm sure I I don't know any personally
01:20:18
Millennial Milliethey're usually pro-abortion they're usually for people being able to have abortion so when he's saying he's talking about women that display cruelty towards children analism you know
01:20:29
Millennial Millieprenatal babies in the womb um he's it is relevant to say feminist because we know that the feminists are the loudest about aborting unborn babies and many of them I've literally debated on the
01:20:40
Millennial Milliestreets talk about thinking that it's okay to abort fullterm babies okay so so when you have women I I talked to a feminist who had literally
01:20:50
Millennial Milliehad babies being eaten by alligator earrings hanging off of her ears and talking about how wonderful it was to abort all these babies and I think that it's relevant to talk about feminism because those people are the loudest
01:21:02
Reneeabout being able to abort babies I I don't think that comes from a place of disliking children or holding animosity towards children I think it's more saying as a woman I shouldn't be tied down to this one outcome of raising a
01:21:14
Kishafamily and having a child is that because attack your children it's all me me me it's putting yourself before before the life of a child but is that because of the fear of having to take on the responsibility of the child alone as
01:21:27
Reneeopposed to getting the support from the father maybe I let's say uh I got pregnant tomorrow I forgot to take my birth control look at me premarital selx what a [ __ ] okay yeah but this is just a
01:21:37
Reneetheoretical let's say I I got pregnant you guys would all want me to have it what about I want I want to go to law school I'm a polysi major okay but what's
01:21:49
Andrew Wilsonwrong this is the point I'm telling you this is the point of the red flag what I'm saying is that the the fact that all I heard is me me also me well a man would be able to do that and not receive
01:22:01
Andrew Wilsonany back and go to law school you want the answer or not go for it so when you go me me I me me me me me me me I'll kill the kid cuz then I can get the [ __ ] that I want yeah we think of that as
01:22:12
Andrew Wilsonbeing [ __ ] monstrous we think of it hang on we think of it literally akin to a monster a monster is the type of person who would say I'm going to do [ __ ] that I want give myself the life that I want get all the material games
01:22:24
Andrew Wilsonthat I want at the expense of killing children I literally cannot Define a monster better than that I wish my mom had aborted me she was a horrible mother she did not have the money she did not
01:22:36
Reneehave the money out doesn't it no no it's not cuz I'm suicidal but I just wanted to make well that's that's really that's really strange though you're not I just wanted to make a really aggressive point you wish your mom would have boarded you can you let me finish my sentences you're not you're not want you don't
01:22:48
Reneewant to un alive yourself it's so weird no no no I don't okay but what I'm saying is my mom was not capable financially of raising a child at that time and it gave me a way shittier life that I have to deal with every day oh I
01:23:00
Reneeknow me me me me me yeah but if she had you know she was old whatever but like if someone who was super young who's not financially responsible yet now what if your mother what if your mother had you
01:23:11
Millennial Milliebut she put you what if she had you but put you up for adoption and you were adopted by a very well-off mother and father that gave you best that would have been great but she wasn't going to do that and she didn't I'm saying if I was about to have a kid right now it
01:23:23
Reneewould have a horrible so I think it would be better off for everyone not to mention the issues with the Foster system even if you put I have a friend I have a friend who's been in the foster care why wouldn't you just un okay let me get this right she did not like it
01:23:35
Andrew Wilsonyou don't want to un alive yourself right now right no right now well I mean because you have a good life right H okay um I actually so I have a question well hang on let me finish the line of inquiry do you have a good life now you
01:23:48
Reneewant to talk to my therapist and that's why you don't of course you have a therapist but I'm guessing you don't want to unive yourself I mean I'm here oh that doesn't answer the question okay I didn't mean actually
01:23:59
Andrew Wilsonlike I wish I was dead I was saying but that's why Circ in some circumstances abortion would be better yeah I get it but in your case you said I wish my mother would have aborted me this is I wish my mother would have killed me so I
01:24:12
Aliciawasn't alive today because my childhood was rough not just not just that but yeah sure I say that can I ask you something I in your example when you said because
01:24:23
AliciaI want to go to law school school and if tomorrow I got pregnant you made the choice to have engage in sex correct in this in this hypothetical we're talking about this theoretical that you set up
01:24:35
Aliciabut don't you think it's a bit absurd to make the most vulnerable person in that entire Dynamic the most responsible for your actions and the actions that you engaged in that's a good point the most vulnerable person being theab the egg
01:24:48
Reneethat has not even the seen has not even reached it yet well if you have an abortion that means morning after pill that's not the theor that's not the but would that be Chill Vibes with all y'all that's not that's
01:25:00
Andrew Wilsonnot what we're that's not what we're what you let's Grant let's Grant all of those okay at what point is the cut off for you to abort oh I don't know I'm not
01:25:12
Andrew WilsonI'm a poly major I'm not why so then it's a distinction with no merit if you can't tell us when life then why did you say can't tell us when life when the medical people say the heart whatever is important I don't medal people don't
01:25:24
Andrew Wilsontell when life begins they can't it's an ontological question there there's a there's something in the law that's been demarcated yeah you know when human life is degreed on for beginning by all scientists on planet Earth that
01:25:35
Millennial Millieconception conception by scientists by all scientists take a biology course that's human life there's no way around it the moment of conception when the sperm meets the egg there's literally a flash of light that happens
01:25:47
Kishaand can we get a can we get a camera on that yeah it's actually it's been documented can I ask you a question sure and what's your name by the way Rene Rene beautiful name I'm sorry I it's it's a big pile on I'm probably mve it on here in a second I just want to say
01:25:59
Kishafirst of all I'm glad you're here um I have to say that because I I I really feel sad that you've said that just now um but my my question was you mentioned
01:26:10
Kishathe financial aspect do you think if men took accountability for their actions with the women both taking accountability that for the child that they've created that they've helped create do you think that more more women
01:26:23
Reneewould feel the need to do this because you mentioned only a financial have choice they have to take accountability I'm just saying I didn't mean financially was the only thing I also think my parents were just both mentally unfit to have a child at all which I don't want you guys to take that too
01:26:36
Reneeseriously when I'm like I wish I was aborted that's obviously like a talking point it's obviously a was it a talking point yeah it was because because then when I followed up with you do you want to be alive right now you're like well cuz I'm funny and people in this
01:26:49
Reneeday and age don't want to live sometimes I don't know but what's it called um I mean that's answer her question sounds kind of miserable it's it's a joke to answer her question sounds like
01:27:00
Reneesounds like cope not a joke I don't mean my point that I was trying to make was that there are some circumstances where I just think the parents should not be parents at all like it would just
01:27:10
Reneebe worse for anything that was born like regardless like I just think like maybe I don't mean like I don't want to live at all but like I would have rather been born to a million other different parents and I know that's impossible and
01:27:22
Andrew Wilsonit's a lottery but when I'm why these are exclusive positions you can have horrible parents after the baby is born and you know what happens if there's horrible parents K gets taken out and
01:27:32
Andrew Wilsonplaced with another family same exact thing that she just suggested sometimes but here's the thing you can't always you can't put an always on it's like saying well we shouldn't Outlaw murder because there's always going to be some
01:27:45
Andrew Wilsonmurders yeah there are there's nothing you can do to mitigate 100% everything that's not relativism it's the opposite of relativism it's not even pragmatism it's recognizing objective reality that's sure even if you outlaw murder
01:27:58
Andrew Wilsonthere's still going to be murders but these are not exclusive positions I understand saying well you can have bad parents yeah that's true what does that have to do with the boarding children maybe some parents know that they were they would be bad parents at time have
01:28:09
Reneeto keep the child the child for adoption the the foster care system is awful adoption is not the same as the why are people who are not prepared
01:28:21
Kishato take the consequences of their actions having sex to be with because then you are blaming the child for the consequences of your actions like um the Miss over there said that you're putting the full owness of the consequence on
01:28:34
Kishathat unborn baby because you chose to be irresponsible that is a reactionary response and I I would say that a man is just as dangerous as a woman who decides to abort the child um but it in no way
01:28:46
Kishawould benefit you to even be with somebody a man especially who tells you yeah I want to kill my own child that man can't be trusted to take care of you either so in what way for what reason is
01:28:59
Kishadoes it make sense to punish a child because you choose to be irresponsible in your own day-to-day life and that man that is the most feminine thing I could maybe you're not punishing the child you're saving the child by murdering it
01:29:10
Andrew Wilsonyes by the life it would have had if it was born you're saving it from the life it would have had if it was born how how benevolent of you yes that's why now this is why the benevolent patriarchy
01:29:22
Andrew Wilsonmust exist because if we left it to people like you you say you know the most benevolent thing we could do is [ __ ] kill you that's that's what that's literally your line of if there were better like welfare societal
01:29:35
Andrew Wilsonsystems in place maybe how about responsible men children oh it's just that we don't have enough welfare which which demographic would you thought if you had to think about it takes up a
01:29:46
Andrew Wilsonhuge majority of welfare funds single mothers Oh I thought I thought we just didn't have enough of a welfare system but they're getting tons of cash from the welfare system what the [ __ ] are you talking about didn't the welfare system
01:29:57
TTS/Donation Voiceactually incentivize the degradation of the family especially in particular communities yes gri one Motorsports donated $200 I cannot think of anything less
01:30:09
TTS/Donation Voiceworthy of joking about the tending unborn life we cannot choose our parents but we can choose our path feminism has failed you the patriarchy is here to help I feel enlightened yo grid one good
01:30:22
Brian Atlasto see you in the chat man thank you very much uh while we have that in we do have a couple other chats let me just get through the chats and then we'll continue on with uh some of the convo
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Brian Atlashere so uh grid one thank you very much man appreciate it we have Pico uh be love to see Andrew on ladies if on o and want to move on start developing other
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Brian Atlasskills now you can make millions later if you start now sex is the easiest way to do it but it's not good long term okay thank you uh Pico appreciate it man
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Brian Atlastrue we have rose Rose coming in the blonde infow Wars is preaching Sky daddy principles
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Brian Atlasto the locusts from the pit casting pearls to swine I will restore the years the locusts have Eden The Book of Joel is great do you have a quick response um
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TTS/Donation VoiceI would say that um I would say that big sassy donated $200 s any other girl in any other country would would be so happy to be in
01:31:25
TTS/Donation Voicethis girl's shoes the fact this girl thinks it preferable to be aborted shows the level of ungratefulness despite a difficult upbringing I would well don't worry she's going to talk for a therapist
01:31:38
Reneeabout but do you want to respond to that really quick yeah um maybe I am a little ungrateful to my parents because they had me at a time in general I just say I'm ungrateful to my parents they shouldn't have had me but that doesn't mean I'm ungrateful of where I am I
01:31:51
Reneestill am very happy with my circumstances the fact okay yeah I get what you mean I getes no sense I understand the argument that you're making okay you ended up fine look at you you're fine you ended up
01:32:02
Reneegreat you're happy but the thing is that that didn't need to happen that didn't I didn't need to go through all the things what needs to happen like I could have been happy anyways with like a normal set of circumstances and that wasn't even like the main if you're talking about need though think about what
01:32:16
Andrew Wilsonyou're saying if you're talking about need it also doesn't need to happen that you bored a child that doesn't need to happen so when you you use an example of need right this is like some type of imperative this does not need to nothing
01:32:28
Andrew Wilsonneeds to happen right but the point so the point I don't even know how that's a point in your favor to say it didn't need to happen so what so what if it didn't need to happen also abing the kid doesn't need to happen maybe I can say
01:32:40
Reneethat all of that rough [ __ ] made for better character development in my life but like fundamentally wouldn't you agree that like if a couple is like about to have a child you would probably
01:32:51
Reneetell them no okay maybe you don't want the abortion to happen cuz that's just so evil but you'd probably tell them no if they're in really shitty Financial emotional circumstances beforehand that's kind ofp that would be I would
01:33:04
Aliciasay that's eugenic not you're saying people who are financially suitable should only be the ones to have children so people in poverty should no you can I'm saying I'm saying I get what you're saying people should be able to have the
01:33:16
Kishachoice if they know that they're going to as charitable as I can your arguments keep coming back to finances and that's why I said at the end of the day if were accountable for their actions as as well as the women and they took
01:33:27
Kishaaccountability for their children and they protected and provided for the woman and child and you were able to continue to live your life unimpeded then what would be your argument for abortion because the main
01:33:40
Kishathing that you continuously come back to is finances so if the men were taking care of you and you were both responsible then what's the issue I have a question I know you want to like one one question at a time so she can respond though okay go ahead go ahead
01:33:52
Andrew Wilsonwell you you wanted to be yeah I was just well I was just saying now I'm doing it I was just saying to be as charitable to your view as possible which is I think that this is just your argument if two people came to you and
01:34:04
TTS/Donation Voicesaid we're thinking about having a child but all sorts of rough shape financially big SAS energy donated $200 you're more than fine you live in the greatest country in the greatest
01:34:15
Reneetime in the history of the world travel to other countries get some godamn perspective damn I know I'm chilling I'm just saying so anyway you're just saying
01:34:26
Andrew Wilsonwould you advise them to you know maybe wait to have children yeah sometimes but sometimes not like what if we took their age into account we like okay she's 33 he's 32 then I wouldn't advise it and be
01:34:39
Andrew Wilsonlike well maybe things would be a little rough but yeah you probably should have them now if you're going to have them but if you're talking about 21 22 years old sure you might say hey guys you can wait a couple of years till you know you have your feet under the ground a little
01:34:50
Andrew Wilsonbit better nobody's adverse to any of that and it's not an argument in your favor for killing kids even if we Grant the entire worldview how in the world does it help you with your argument of
01:35:03
Reneetaking out the kid I don't you're not killing a kid you're preventing it from being born that's my view so I know that's not y'all's view so let me let me just let me just make sure I get this
01:35:12
Andrew Wilsonright Scott Peterson viciously murders his wife kills unborn baby right goes to prison for d double homicides you'd let him off on the one homicide right he's unborn baby
01:35:25
Reneewhat oh one homicide instead of double homicide yeah sure you would you would you would exemp from the one homicide they're getting a life sentence anyway yes okay he's only let's say he's only going to get 15 years okay then I what
01:35:38
Millennial Millieage do you think I just want to make sure clear hang said it is in the law almost done I just want to finish this okay so 24 almost done weeks yeah just want to be
01:35:48
Andrew Wilsonclear 9mth pregnant stabbed in the stomach okay then double homicide if it's past the legal what's the what what if legal what the legal I don't know the
01:36:01
Andrew Wilsonlaw like it's what if it's that's why don't muddy the water here for just a second let's say it's eight months let's say eight months they say you can legally do it let's just say you can legally do it up to 9 months there's
01:36:10
Andrew Wilsonlegislation in places for that no no well then when 24 weeks okay so 24 weeks it's 24 weeks in a day then it's a double homicide but it's 23 weeks nope
01:36:22
Reneethen then he gets that's how it is with every law really or yeah really okay but you're make the point that you just tried to make uhhuh is how every law has
01:36:32
Andrew Wilsonto be interpreted like strictly yes it would be single homicide before and double homicide interpreted on a Case by case but that aside even assuming we were charitable to that if you can't
01:36:45
Andrew Wilsontell us when life even Begins the [ __ ] should we care about your opinion on abortion anyway I just said 24 weeks because she told you that but you couldn't tell us why it starts at 24 weeks I didn't say that's when life
01:36:57
Andrew Wilsonbegan you guys told me it was that conception the light explo say that life this why when you get too many when you get too many you know heads in the cookie jar with one
01:37:06
Andrew Wilsonconversation becomes this I'm just saying if we look at it you would say that that guy should get Exempted from one of the murders if he kills unborn unborn kid I
01:37:19
Reneejust want I just want to hear you say it this is such a this has this is not helping your point at all then woman should be able to end a child before 24 weeks if she's not ready why the child
01:37:32
Andrew Wilsonbecause that's what the scientists say is oh which ones social the ones you just made up you didn't know when life began two which are they which ones are they minutes ago scientist that say that they didn't know anything about the science scarecro you're scarecro right
01:37:44
Reneenow or no what's the fallacy it's the one where you're attacking straw man the STW man you're attacking my character for not knowing the scientific start date of when of no no I'm attacking your direct position that you said I don't know when this begins did you not say
01:37:56
Andrew Wilsonthat you're not you're attacking the fact that I don't know you literally just said I don't so then that's your position how's that a straw man what no I said 2 now I'm saying 24 weeks you were saying why
01:38:09
Andrew Wilsonshould we trust you when you don't know the actual SCI date that's based on based on 24 weeks right you say 24 weeks why does life begin in 24 weeks I couldn't tell you yeah so then what the
01:38:20
Alicia[ __ ] are you talking about I'm straw Manning you okay well U you have to do the research yourself sorry if you took a biology class don't they say that basically Life Starts at fertilization no it start and the last time I took a
01:38:32
Brian Atlasbio class was my sophomore year of high school that's not what the AR I do have to move things on I do have to move things on we've got a lot of chats to get through so let me get through some
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01:41:12
Brian Atlasbriefly touched on feminism and then it quickly descended into an abortion conversation uh just going around the table who is a feminist do you consider yourself a feminist oh
01:41:26
Andrew Wilsonum I'm a black feminist like ra like you're no it's an ideology what is the ideology of black feminism I've never heard that me
01:41:36
Andrew Wilsonneither should you be talking about it if you don't know what it is I I didn't do some research did I do some research Andrew find out bro super super weird me asking you the question what is thing how about you read about some black
01:41:49
Andrew Wilsonfeminists from some black feminists themselves wait then I'm I follow the political ideology of white Angela Davis I follow the ideology white
01:42:00
Reneepatriarch can you black feminism is I follow the ideology of white patri we learn it in my political science classes I'm not black but it's in wait you're
01:42:09
Millennial Millienot oh my God I bro I got that she could she could identify I mean she's a moral relativist right did you identify as black I no I identify as my present
01:42:21
Andrew Wilsonbiological race thank you are you like you don't think race is a social construction that's weird half to Vis yes but any in any case yeah asking you a question about what thing is would be
01:42:33
Reneethe opposite of speaking you mean by black feminist it's just like intersectional feminism so usually when you say feminism it's um four distracted
01:42:43
Reneedetracted from questions of uh race and class so it's just including questions class okay yeah sure yeah wouldn't you say that that's more in line with fourth wave feminism now that we've gotten into intersectionalism with
01:42:55
Reneefeminism I would still go with the definition that I know just because that's what I'm familiar with and I don't want to classify myself as something that I'm not so that we're not speaking past each other though when I say feminism with the egalitarian belief
01:43:07
Andrew Wilsonat intersectionalism that's what I consider fourth wave we're not speaking past each other we're talking about the same thing okay yes okay basically all right what about
01:43:17
Daliahyou I'm not very political to be so honest I hair I I read you wrong I guess yeah I
01:43:27
Daliahhonestly like I don't want to add words I can't speak on you know what I mean so you're are you a political I guess so like I don't really I know like obviously I should educate
01:43:38
Brian Atlasmyself and obviously I'm not who are you voting for in this upcoming election um I probably I haven't looked into it at all well you have it occur it seems like
01:43:49
Daliahit's going to be Trump and then you have Joe Biden you leaning I haven't done any research or haven't done any research no like not at all like and I and I know you know
01:44:00
Andrew Wilsonwho the president is right now yeah obviously I'm not like stupid who is it it's Joe Biden like I know that I just want to make sure obviously I'm aware do you know what the vice president's name
01:44:11
Daliahis camela Harris like obviously I know of things but do I do my own personal research no I have not so do I know who I'm going to vote for because I no I
01:44:21
Daliahjust haven't done any research so I'm not going to go and say oh I want to vote for this person when I don't know anything about them yeah that's reasonable you know and obviously I do have to educate myself as an aist are
01:44:32
Andrew Wilsonyou going to vote I'm not sure well okay let's assume you are let's just say Let's Make a Deal you do no research but you promise me you won't
01:44:43
Daliahvote deal like okay yes we got yes awesome I don't know don't worry about a research are you leaning in any
01:44:54
Brian Atlasdirection I just said I have not I kind of feel like you're like a full-blown like magga trumpster you just seem I get that vibe from
01:45:03
Brian Atlasyou like are there issues you care about like were you there for January 6 I kind of get that VI like no I'm not you weren't there like you didn't catch a felony or anything like that Jes you
01:45:15
Brian Atlasdidn't catch a felony nope that I could SW I saw you you weren't storming a certain building did you storm did you storm the capital you storm the all right um all right what have you started Brian
01:45:28
Brian Atlaswhat are you doing I don't know I don't know um so you're kind of unsure if you're consider yourself a feminist yeah I mean obviously just like how you said like it's equality for
01:45:40
Brian Atlaseverybody but then at the same time do you want to be drafted as a woman you know what I mean so what if you didn't like what if feminism was you don't have to be dra well that's what it isn't that what it is that no I mean at the end of
01:45:53
Daliahthe day okay then yes I would say that I am a feminist and if I did have to get drafted then okay because that's for the equality of it all based no bro I know is uh do you consider do you consider
01:46:04
Andrew Wilsonyourself a feminist no I'm a Christian I'm not a feminist can can Christians be feminists only no here's why because the
01:46:14
Andrew WilsonChristian ethic requires patriarchy it is a patriarchal religion period there's no if hands or buts about it everything from the union between a man and a woman is patriarchal everything from the church structure down is patriarchal
01:46:27
Andrew Wilsonwomen are not allowed to be pastors not allowed to be priests or not allowed to be clergy it is a patriarchal structure like you're not probably why our friend here fell off of it but it is a patriarchal structure is there a denomination that well that's actually
01:46:40
Andrew Wilsonnot true what you just said there are women pastors I've met them they don't follow that's ilal no that's that's that not only not only is that the Protestant
01:46:51
Millennial MillieBible it is a fact not and that's okay that's your belief and I might agree with that belief but what you're saying is not factually true it is factually true what I said was that if you are a
01:47:02
Andrew Wilsonfemale Pastor you're female clery all female clergy are phony baloney about the doct as opposed to like what's actually happening it has to
01:47:13
Andrew Wilsonbe it has to be that way we have we can go back to the earliest church history and we can make the determination of what was determined to be clergy in very olated cases women were called in to do
01:47:25
Andrew Wilsonthings like baptism and they may have become deaconesses or things like this but it was for a very very limited uh perspective from the church's perspective but it was mostly to do with hey we don't want to see girls naked
01:47:37
Millennial Milliethat's inappropriate so we have women do the baptism but they weren't allow is said fact true you you should have said there are women pastors but I don't believe I said
01:47:48
Andrew Wilsonwas fact no this is factually accurate too fake Christian if you are a female clergy in a Christian Church you're a fake Christian that's factually accurate
01:47:59
Reneethat's what I that's your belief no that's the truth that's what is factual well is there a reason why you think that women are not capable of yeah because we have 2,000 years of church
01:48:11
Andrew Wilsonhistory and we know what the Saints said and we know not only what the Saints said we know what the apostles said and we know not only what the apostles said but we can literally judge this all the way down to when heresy Church started under Luther and even Luther knew I knew
01:48:25
Andrew Wilsonwhat the scientist said but I didn't know why do you know why they said that yeah why because the patriarchal structure which was laid down by Jesus Christ to his Apostles to go and start
01:48:35
Reneethe church they were all headed by men that was part of the Gospel that's why I'm hang on was there anything else that you had there any wise yeah because you just named another president as your
01:48:46
Reneereason why is there any reason why in the fundamental like mentality of the man and versus a woman just know that this is his own secular like Bel that's what I'm asking him yeah
01:48:57
Millennial Millieno I guess not more secular sorry this is his own individual version of Christianity it's not every version no no it's not every version of Christianity the fake
01:49:07
Millennial Millieones I can point out all these female pastors then I can say it's not your version but it's not every version Christianity so know that there are
01:49:19
Millennial MillieChristian religions that have female pastors does subcribe to that right and and guess what the meth say the others are not and the these say those aren't and you know the Catholics say the other
01:49:31
Millennial Millieones aren't Christians and everyone everyone does that in Christianity so there's a lot of they just protests just Protestants do let's not get into all the nuances of individual do you
01:49:42
Rainaconsider yourself a feminist um I would say no um no is wait no is what do you mean
01:49:53
TTS/Donation Voicewell I do believe that you know women should be offered the choice you know human beings but hold on just living under Cordon $200 I'm fighting the inner sism for the
01:50:04
TTS/Donation Voiceblack girl she's great to the girl across from Brian thanks for coming would be boring without you it's not of the bad life is better than no life I
01:50:15
Brian Atlasagree black feminist the black feminist to the black feminist mhm I do have to read one that's about to fall off before we continue did you want to respond to this really quick
01:50:28
Brian Atlasor I guess you can just can you read this for us oh wow I don't know if I want to read this one okay starting from across brine ratings out of 10
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Brian Atlaslooks like I that's right yo thank you living appreciate it man um okay Dad bods are back in style I here I guess um wait so you were saying is not a feminis
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Faithis what do you mean um well I I do believe that women should be off of the choice um you know Free Will in that
01:51:07
FaithEssence do I do I agree with you know um like new way feminism not at all um I I have my views and I and I feel like people should be off able to have their
01:51:18
Faiththeir views as well and um to have their preferences and I also o think that when women are able to have the option to stay home and it's not necessarily forced that's so it's so much more
01:51:29
Faithappreciated um but you know but also there is there I I do want to go back in time and you know talk to some of the women who were like oh I hate having to just sit at home and take care of kids
01:51:41
Faithand animals all day I want to go out into the workforce and you know I want to be I want to push major university like there's actually very few of them just so you know the anti- stuffer the
01:51:52
Andrew Wilsonwhen when it comes to feminism the anti-suffrage Jets far outnumbered the suffragettes far and way outnumbered them so I guess the real question is why do you think the men allowed it voted it
01:52:04
Andrew Wilsonin cuz the men were the ones that voted it in because they had people like Rockefeller who were doing this Mass funding behind the scenes and there was occult roots that go all the way back to the early basically protestantism
01:52:15
Millennial Milliebrought you feminism but how do you think they convinced the general male population that exactly you don't think we should vote that's your view yeah oh wow I think women should be able to vote
01:52:28
Millennial Milliebut I'm not a feminist why do you think they should be able to vote why shouldn't I be able to vote well that's not my question that's answering my question with a question no well that is I think I should wait we didn't get
01:52:40
Millennial Millielet's start over we didn't get taxes hang on let's start over should I pay taxes your position is you should be able to vote yes absolutely okay why should you be able to vote because I'm an American citizen and I pay taxes okay
01:52:52
Millennial Millieso let's assume for a second as you know most people in America do not pay taxes do you think they should be able to vote well if you the problem with your reasoning is we have a law that says you can't have taxation without
01:53:05
Millennial Millierepresentation yeah so it the law doesn't say that if you're tax paying American and that's why they debate this in DC all the time DC residents are paying taxes and they don't have proper representation first of all this is a goalpost move I'm not going to let you
01:53:18
Andrew Wilsonget away with it we're going to move right back and then I'm going to address that second point after we move right back at your first point the first point there are people yes I will watch there are the the first point are the first
01:53:29
Andrew Wilsonthe the first point is there are people right now who pay no taxes right what about should they be able to vote probably not okay so you would agree that those people they should still be
01:53:39
Andrew Wilsonable not arguing with you yet so we should be able so then as we look at this then we should be able to see that you want for at least some people to not
01:53:50
Andrew Wilsonbe able to vote right well I'm saying that Americans have the right to vote that's what it says okay so then should I'm asking you an ought not an is I'm not asking you what is true I'm ask you what ought to let me ask you a question you can ask me a question have to answer
01:54:04
Kishamy question taxes we missed we missed shouldn't be able to vote like are we that emotional so anyway should we even pay taxes calm down relax you calm down one one step one step at a time yeah
01:54:17
Andrew Wilsontelling you to calm down it's me being emotional so yeah you are you seem to getting a little frustrated I know you kind of a dumbass you want to answer my questions so an from do you know do you
01:54:27
Andrew Wilsonknow what an A and an is is is claim is true ought should happen should everybody be able to vote no who's everybody should Americans be able to vote I don't think illegal
01:54:40
Millennial Millieimmigrants should be able to vot don't be pedantic should all Americans be able to vote are all Americans required to pay taxes work yes yes yes but do all Americans pay taxes and guess what happens to those who