100 Body Count By 19?! She CHEATED On Fiancé W/ His BEST Friend? ØF Mom/Daughter? | Dating Talk #247

Date: 2025-06-16

Duration: 7h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAnya Matusevich >

CCrystal (Sociology)>

PPervin/Pearl >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Crystal (Sociology)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Pervin/Pearl(guest)

SPEAKER_06Felicity Hughes(guest)

SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_13Anya Matusevich(guest)

SPEAKER_14Vanna Rose(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian introduces episode with remote Andrew Wilson

Topics Discussed

Episode with Andrew Wilson remote

Andrew Wilson joins remotely. Multiple guests.

Transcript

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Vanna Rosethose people obviously have mental issues. Yes. Like when I'm younger it's different. Like I was like 13 years old like young and depressed. Like I'm not doing that now.

Brian AtlasYeah. Yes. Yes. Yep. Okay. So, getting into the questionnaire. Honestly, you guys are pretty tame on the questionnaire here. Uh, we're going to go to Annabelle.

Brian AtlasAnnabelle, you said that men are more privileged in society than women. Why is that, Annabelle? Did I click that? Or well, you you agree with the statement? Yeah, you said uh so

SPEAKER_05the statement is men are more privileged in society than women. You agree with the statement? Um, I think I might have clicked the wrong thing because actually I disagree. I think because men have to

SPEAKER_05be like if there's a war they have to they're the ones who have to go out and do the fighting. So actually I think I just clicked the wrong button. Sorry. Right. Rightyo. Rightyo. Uh you okay?

Brian AtlasYou also said a woman should not be rejected because of her weight. No. See I've I've done it the wrong way round. My goodness. Annabelle. I know that degree in Latin really got me far.

SPEAKER_05Proper. this girl. [ __ ] Sorry. Didn't I say to you, Chloe? I was like, I'm confused. How does this scally wagon? I think I did the same thing. Yeah. Yeah, I got

SPEAKER_05confused. Oh god, how embarrassing. It says c Yeah, it says circle the ones that you agree with on the top. I have I'm a little I'm a little bit autistic and I have ADHD. So, you're autistic?

Brian AtlasYeah. Oh my god, that Why didn't you tell me earlier? That explains everything. It does, doesn't it? I totally get that from you. Yeah. Sorry. Oh my god. Thank you, Annabelle. Wait, I

SPEAKER_05think you hurt her feelings. What? I I just found out like a week ago. Wait, why are you Are you cry? Wait. No, it's just It's a bit of a It's just a bit weird to be diagnosed with autism. It's

SPEAKER_05not really everyone's dream, is it? I don't think you can. I think everyone's on the spectrum. Yeah, I feel Everybody at this table's definitely got something normal. Yeah, you. But I I have ADHD as well, so I'm just like a melting pot of

SPEAKER_05disastrous mental health issues. I have ADHD, too. It's hard sometimes. That's why I've been going like this. I'm like trying not to make a noise. It's been noisy here. Okay. So, that's why I clicked the wrong circled the wrong

Brian Atlasthing. Okay. Sorry. Uh well, then here, let's go to this. Uh you said that wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex. Do you agree with that? Yeah. Okay. Crystal,

Brian Atlasyou also agree that it's wrong for man to dump his girlfriend if she regular turns him down. And then Pearl, you also said wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regular. Because I feel like they could have a conversation

Pervin/Pearland if they're not on the same page, they can just part ways instead of just dumping. This is part of a healthy relationship, isn't it? But wouldn't that be I mean

Brian AtlasI assume I assume that there's some conversations maybe I miss the Here's the conversation. The guy's trying to have sex with her. She doesn't want to. They

Pervin/Pearldon't have sex. She should want to have sex with her man. It's probably a mistake on my end cuz the compatibility is gone. English isn't my first language. So I apologize. Well, it's if

Brian Atlasthat's your position though, that's I'm not that's fine. No, but based off of you clarifying it, then I do understand what you mean. But you you're a Christian, right? Don't you believe like

Pervin/Pearlas a Christian that both the husband and the wife owe their body to each other? No. Because everyone's situation is different. Just because I believe

Pervin/Pearlsomething that doesn't mean another No. But within your worldview, within your relationship No, it's okay. I don't I'm not like a hardcore believer of like,

Pervin/Pearloh, they need to remain together, you know? I I'm open enough to But you're Are you You're okay with divorce? Yeah, that's okay. Like, that's okay. The the

Brian Atlaswoman is just there's no abuse, no infidelity. She's just like vaguely unhappy and wants to go [ __ ] other dudes. Is that grounds for divorce? If two people are not happy with each

Pervin/Pearlother, I think yes. Is that what your faith prescribes? It has nothing to do with my p my faith. It's reality. Anything could happen. Two people can be

Pervin/PearlWell, yeah. I I understand that secular people can get a no fault divorce. I'm asking I'm assuming you said you're a hardcore like Christian. That's the thing I believe. You said you're

Pervin/PearlOrthodox, but I'm not like hardcore Christian. I know, but I'm not a fully practicing person. I have faith, but I'm not like reading everything to the text

Brian Atlasof it. Does that make sense? Hold on. So, what do you disagree with God's word? What What do you disagree about God's word? I don't disagree with anything. I

Brian AtlasYou said you don't follow the tech. So, what texts as it relates to the Bible or whatever do you not agree with or follow? I believe that everyone can have

Pervin/Pearltheir own understanding and perception of whatever is what do you think for me I think it depends if a couple is not happy let's say two one side is not

Pervin/Pearlhappy with the other vice versa whatever the context is in that relationship it's okay for them to part ways I'm not like no no once they're married though yeah that's okay if under your world view as

Brian Atlasa Christian my understanding is under Christianity Can somebody in the chat, I know we probably have some orthob bros in the chat. Can Orthodox Christians, if there there's no abuse, the woman is just

Brian Atlasvaguely unhappy, she wants to get some new dick, is she under the faith, is she permitted a divorce? Because I know in Catholicism, you can't get a divorce. Um, I'm curious

Brian Atlaswhat the chat says. Is divorce permitted in Orthodox Christianity? Uh, sorry, my chat's super delayed. Can you guys keep spamming the answer

Pervin/Pearlbecause my chat's going to take like 10 seconds to catch up? I don't think it's permitted in any circumstance, but based off of my perspective, I I tend to be more open-minded. I tend to be more

Pervin/Pearlsecular. I tend to be more understanding towards differences. So, hold on. You said you're an Orthodox Christian. Yeah, but you just said you're secular. What does that mean? I tend to have more

Pervin/Pearlsecular open-minded perspectives towards my understanding towards others. No, but I'm put put the others aside. I'm just asking about for me I am an open-minded

Pervin/Pearlperson. So like in a scenario where two people are not happy with each other, it's okay for them to separate. It's okay for them to have a divorce but

Pervin/Pearlunder my beliefs. Okay. Do you have like orthodox friends? No, I don't. I just I think I Wait, are you I'm a very like

Pervin/Pearlconservative person. I'm very shy. I'm not like super outgoing. So for me, there are some things that I hold like for example within my morals, but it's okay. Like if two people are not happy

Brian Atlaswith each other, it's okay for them. Do you go to liturgy? Do you go to church on Sundays? Like what's No, I'm not. Like you said you were an Orthodox Christian. What does being shy? Wait, hold on. Going to church doesn't make

Pervin/Pearlyou crazy. I No, no, no, no. I'm not saying going to church makes you crazy. All I'm saying is I don't follow everything on the book. Like I'm not What do you What are the things in which you don't follow? Like for example, how

Pervin/Pearlyou're saying, "Oh, it's prohibited to get a divorce. For me, it's okay. If two people are unhappy, it's okay." Like that's the So if you were, let me ask you a question. Your husband, your

Brian Atlascurrent boyfriend, uh is he Orthodox Christian? No. Is he Christian? Yeah. You're but you earlier described yourself as uh orthodox Christian. Okay.

Pervin/PearlBut that has nothing to do with me being an understanding individual to but I'm asking about your own I am I am I get that you're fine with secular people getting divorces. I'm asking about you.

Pervin/PearlFor me personally, if there was like a difference or like an altercation or an indifference between my partner and I, obviously I would want to discuss it

Pervin/Pearlbefore immediately going to separation. But worse comes to worse, it's okay if two individuals separate. It's okay. But okay, can you tell me what are you an

Pervin/PearlOrthodox Christian? Yes. But what does that have to do with my pre preferences? It goes against your belief. Wait, hold on. it how it would have everything to do with your

Pervin/Pearlpreferences. I have preferences and beliefs, but that's not going to sit there and steer me away from being an open-minded, understanding person. It's okay. So, you're you're open-minded

Brian Atlaswhen it benefits you. No, it could benefit anyone. No, when it benefits you, it could benefit anyone circumstances. I if there's an ortho bro in the chat who can clarify. I think

Brian Atlasthey said that uh divorce is not allowed. Maybe there are some exceptions to if there's abuse or something like that. Um infidelity possibly. I didn't get the full details on this. Uh it

Brian Atlasshould they say marriage is indisoluble as in it should not be broken. The violation of such a union perceived as holy being an offense resulting from either adultery or the prolonged absence

Brian Atlasof one of the partners. So like kind of abandonment I guess. Um, let's say you were you got married. Mhm. And there was

Brian Atlasno abuse. He treated you well, but you were vaguely mildly unhappy. Would this be grounds for you to get a

Pervin/Pearldivorce? Like I said, if there was an indifference between my partner and I, I would obviously like I wouldn't jump into divorce right away. We would talk, we would discuss, we would try to figure

Pervin/Pearlthings out. But if things come to a point where we cannot continue this marriage, it's okay. Just because I believe in God or just because I'm a Christian or just because I'm an

Pervin/Pearlorthodox Christian. Then what do you believe? I have been telling you what I believe. Yes, I It's all negotiable for you. You think you you just admitted everything in life is negotiable. Do you

Pervin/Pearlthink the Bible is negotiable? No, of course I read it. I practice it. But to the consent to the point where what I believe in and what my what are my preferences this is what it is. What and

Brian Atlaswhat are your preferences as to the things in the Christian faith that you want to disregard. What do you want to disregard in the Christian disregarding? I said obviously I wouldn't jump into

Brian Atlasthe notion of divorce. That would be the last resort if the your hus your husband's there. He's a good father. He's he's good towards

Brian Atlasyou. But you just maybe I don't know you're vaguely unhappy. Mildly unhappy. But there's no abuse. He treats you well. No, I wouldn't leave. No, I

Pervin/Pearlwouldn't get a divorce. I'm saying worse comes to worse where there are no resolutions. There's no like, you know, we're not able to figure things out. Things get bad, things get domestic.

Pervin/PearlLike abuse, worse comes to worse. then it would be okay because obviously at the end of the day like why should two people be together if they're not happy? Can I ask you a question? At least for

Brian Atlasyou, in order for you to get a divorce, what is the the the [Music] lowest threshold that you would get divorced?

Brian AtlasCould you define that? What do you mean by threshold? Like so it would be really clear like if he was beating you and there was infidelity, absolutely go get your divorce.

Brian AtlasBut what is like the lowest relationship dynamic in your worldview that would be acceptable for a divorce to occur? Those would be the two exceptions for me. No,

Brian Atlasno, no. But that's the that that would be like a a clearcut what's the lowest threshold. So maybe something less than that. Like what if he was like he called you a bad name once? Like he called you

Pervin/Pearla [ __ ] one time. No, obviously not. Like it would come So the thresh that's that's not the threshold. Where's the threshold? It would come to the worstc case scenario. Infidelity or abuse.

Brian AtlasWell, yeah, but we could probably think of things that aren't as bad as those things where you would still get a divorce. I can't really think of anything. Those

Pervin/Pearlwould be like like ongoing verbal abuse. Ongoing verbal abuse. I would come to a point where I would try to figure things

Pervin/Pearlout whether it's like counseling whether it's therapy what like try out all my options and worse comes worse you know things are not getting better he's not getting better obviously that would be okay

Pervin/Pearlare you are you going to take your husband's last name yes okay are you going to be submissive yeah I mean I feel like as females we We

Pervin/Pearllike I feel like society nowadays puts females and males against each other, you know, like, oh, females are oppressed if they're being submissive. I don't think that's the case. I feel like

Pervin/Pearlwe both have our advantages and disadvantages and we shouldn't always be pinpoint against each other. Rather, so we should be like filling each other's

Pervin/Pearlholes and being like a puzzle. So yes, if it comes to be the scenario, I would be a traditional wife. Yes. I feel like like earlier when you were like, "Oh, I

Vanna Rosewant to do Only Fans cuz I have morals and all that stuff." Like I feel like so you can just choose like whatever morals like if it's like say like cuz it's like you're Christian, you have to follow certain things, but then you can change those Christianity. It has nothing to do

Pervin/Pearlwith Christianity. Even if I was an atheist, even if I was Jewish, I personally would not put myself in a position where I'm being vulnerable out to millions. It has nothing to do with

Pervin/Pearlreligion. It's just my preference. I I would not find myself asking Yeah, I would not find myself comfortable to be in that position. I see. I see. Okay. Um

Brian AtlasI was just a bit confused. I don't know if you've walked back the position a little bit. You said that uh you don't strictly adhere

Pervin/Pearllike the Christian hardcore like I'm not a super hardcore religious person. That's why whenever she asked about morality, it's not based off of a religion like I could have been Jewish,

Pervin/PearlI could have been atheist. That morality comes within me and how I perceive life and how I perceive things and how I put value in certain things and that's just

Pervin/Pearlhow it is. What are the things in the Christian faith that you I guess don't align with? I wouldn't say I don't align with specific things. I

Pervin/Pearlwould say that I would read it. I would understand. I would practice and I would be open to having a more understanding perspective versus someone who's

Pervin/Pearlreligiously reading it and they're like, "Okay, this is what it says in the Bible and this is the only way I have the capability to understand another person's perspective, another religion's

Pervin/Pearlperspective." That's what I mean by I'm I have an open-minded perspective and I'm understanding to different opinions. Well, going back to the prompt then, uh,

Brian Atlaswrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex. Uh, there are a couple people. I think it was Annabelle. I don't know if that was you accidentally circled that. No,

Crystal (Sociology)no, I meant that. Okay. Uh, wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex. Why is that wrong? I think it uh relationships

Crystal (Sociology)are more than that. Like you shouldn't you got with your significant other because of other reasons, not because you sleep together, but it's a it's a it's a very big intimacy is incredibly

SPEAKER_05important in a relationship. Intimacy is incredibly important in a relationship. Going back to religion, that's not like the most important thing. Well, I'm I'm not talking about religion. I'm just talking about past experiences. And I

SPEAKER_05think that like sharing a bed together and having and being intimate together is like extremely important. That's kind of what love is. It's part of love. It's not everything, but it's part of it.

Crystal (Sociology)It's probably part of yours. It's not like specifically mine. Okay. Well, good luck to you. To you, hold on. Let me ask

Brian Atlasyou guys Let me ask you guys a question. What if uh a guy was dating a girl and part of the reason that she got with him is because he was being a provider? And that was sort of her expectation laid

Brian Atlasout at the beginning of the relationship. And then 1 2 3 years later, he stops being a provider and would it be wrong for her to then and

Brian Atlashe's capable of being a provider. He's capable of going to work. He just kind of ah he got got slack a little bored, a little burned out. He you know you know

SPEAKER_05it's uh um I that's a really good question. I think would it be okay for a woman to break up with? No,

SPEAKER_05it wouldn't. I mean I would I would stay with them until they try to find something else. So in intimacy is more sacred than money and providing I think

Vanna Rosewhen it comes to loving relationships. But but if there's like no like for example if he's just doing it for no reason just because of choice. I feel like I I feel like that it would be the

Vanna Roseright for the women to want to leave if and like they like they've been doing that and that was like the agreement then all of a sudden like he wants to switch it up. Like I feel like that's not really like fair on her. So if that

SPEAKER_05was her choice to want to go and find that in someone else, I feel like that would be I think that you know as you should want to be sleeping with your man, you know, like that's just if you

Vanna Roselove if you love your husband or your boyfriend or whatever, then you should want to have sex with him. I agree. You know, but depending on like Yeah, because of like religion and stuff like that. Some people obviously like they that isn't really a part of the

Vanna Roserelationship, but I do agree. I feel like if somebody were to cuz it's their own preference. So if someone was like, "Well, you're not giving me like you're not having sex with me and all this stuff and that's something that they really want in a relationship, I feel

Vanna Roselike they would have the right to be like, well, I don't want to be in this relationship and go find somebody that they could find that in whether it's smacks or if it's, you know, money or like people like being like support or

SPEAKER_05providers and things like that." Yeah. Yeah. And it's oxytocin and it's bonding and it's, you know, that kind of so I mean connection.

Brian AtlasWhat's confusing to me though is how many women push for commitment and part of commitment means he's only sleeping with you, you're only sleeping with him. Mhm. If you start pulling back on the

Brian Atlassex, you're allowed to do that. But I don't think we should be surprised if that man breaks up with you because you're kind of like breaking the understanding that

SPEAKER_05you if you want that man to be you want that commitment. Of course, you should you should want to have sex. You should Yeah. Firstly, you should want to have

Vanna Rosesex because you like fancy him or whatever. Secondly, you should want to make your man happy. Yeah. I feel like it's not really fair for a woman to hold that over them. You know what I mean?

Pervin/PearlLike if they just randomly like So I agree with that statement. Yeah. You you were going to come in me. It looked like you were leaning into Yeah. I was reading what he said. Oh wow. That's not

Crystal (Sociology)really related to the Congo yet. I was I had a question. Why did you stop um what having with your boyfriend? What are we

Pervin/Pearlreading? Like I said, I think it was like a wrong decision for myself. I'm not saying it's a wrong decision for others. It was just I wish I had not

Pervin/Pearldone it. I wish I had waited. If that makes sense. That's sad. [Music] Not the music. Oh no. Look, you want to be in a

Pervin/Pearlrelationship with a guy you had sex with him and then Was he bad in bed? Is that why? No. Nothing with him. I just think like the mental capac like the mental capacity that I am like processing

Vanna Roseeverything. I just wish I had waited. Nothing to do with him to do with his thing. But yeah, no, I I do I agree that if somebody if that's like the agreement in a relationship and then you know like someone but like not saying you

Vanna Rosespecifically, I'm just saying like for example like just in other predicaments, you know, like I if someone if I wasn't having sex with someone and they wanted to leave me and I would be like well that's understandable because I'm not providing what they want. Especially like you know like how someone doesn't

Vanna Rosewant to be with someone who has a high body count and stuff like that. It's just preferences of certain things and if that's like how they want to be then that's their choice. Yeah. and flipping it around like if I was in a relationship and a guy, you know, didn't

SPEAKER_05want to sleep with me anymore, it would really like hurt me and I wouldn't feel desired and loved anymore. So, understandable. He can leave if he wants to. I No, I wouldn't feel any Yeah,

Felicity Hughesexactly. I'm just saying it works both ways. That's a part of the topic. Yeah. So, exactly. It's okay. Pearl's situation is different because they both have like they're both have the same they have the same understanding that either of them want to have sex, but it's totally different if like you're

SPEAKER_05having sex and then all of a sudden one partner just doesn't want to have sex with you. Yeah, I think that's fair. And I think it hurts it hurts women's egos more when the when when their husband or

SPEAKER_05boyfriend um doesn't want to sleep with them. Like because men I mean just generalizing here, I do think that men have higher libido. So when a guy suddenly starts pulling back and doesn't

Vanna Rosewant to have sex with you like for girls like it's crippling like it really upsets us. Yeah. And I feel like also it could be like people then at that point you feel like people are being like unfaithful and stuff like that cuz it's

Vanna Roselike why all of a sudden do you not want to have sex? Like there's obvious like if you were already wanting to have sex and then now you don't want to have sex like I feel like that something's wrong with ours you know whatever. Yeah. I actually had a relationship like that

SPEAKER_05was quite like that actually where the guy I was with just like sort of stopped wanting to have sex with me. I would be like what the freak and it and it and and it could just it made me so so so

SPEAKER_05like my self-esteem like just went completely like yeah really really hurt me. All right we have some chats here. We got woke bloke. Thank you man. Woke bloke donated $69.

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Brian AtlasThat's one of our earlier episodes. I'm trying to remember. It's um Andrew crucified her with that. That was so mean. No, I know who's It's like the girl in

Brian Atlasred. The the like Latina girl in red. I don't know the dating talk number. I know the exact one you're talking about, though. It was Andrew Tate. I remember cuz I watched it so many times. I found

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SPEAKER_07Yeah. Just didn't And then you were like what? And she said again what? Blis donated $70. King Henry VIII sorted this out and created the Anglican Church.

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Brian Atlassurvived. Those are his six wives. Oh, no. I'm going to find it for you, sir. Uno momento. Just to be nice, I'm going to

SPEAKER_05find it. Okay, let's see. I think it's he killed I think it was Ann of Cleves. He beheaded her so that he could be with Anne Berlin.

Brian AtlasYeah. Yeah. Right. Indeed. Indeed. Wait, hold on. Told you. Which one is it? I got it for you, dude. I got you, dude.

Brian AtlasDating talk 120. Dating talk 120. S paid her bills on first date.

Brian AtlasYeah, there it is. Okay, we have lazy prodigy deis vault. I'm Orthodox Christian. She's not Christian. Divorce

Brian Atlasis only for adultery, abuse, or anything equal. She's a liberal. She's not a follower of the faith. She picks and chooses. You want to respond to that?

Pervin/PearlYou spent 70 bucks to bash me and call me a liberal when I was just being understanding to different situations. That's not very Christian of you.

Brian AtlasSnap. Wow. Wow. Lazy prodigy. Are you going to let her talk to you like that? Lazy Prodigy, are you going to let her spend some more of your money? Come on.

Brian AtlasFirst off, Lazy Prodigy here. This guy's a crypto. He's deep in crypto. Okay. $70. That's like a quarter to this guy. That's it's a penny. I didn't even bash

Pervin/Pearlanyone. I was literally being nice and understanding to different scenarios. And I said, "Worst comes to worse. You know, divorce is okay." But I guess to

Pervin/Pearleach their own. You could believe whatever you want. I'm not a liberal and you can choose to think whatever you want. I don't really care. Why do women do this? I You didn't do

Brian Atlasit, but have you ever seen I've been I've been commenting about it. Like all these girls on Tik Toks who are just man haters. They do the They do this [ __ ] thing. Wait, let me zoom in on that.

Brian AtlasThey do they do this and they all got the [ __ ] clacky nails. It's cuz when you're talking like you want to be like it's like especially right when you get your nails done, you're like they do the double. Are they trying to show off the manicure? No, it's not like this. It's

Vanna Roselike this cuz they're snapping at them. They're like you there's like it's like a turtle. Oh my god. I hate that [ __ ] That [ __ ] bothers me. I know. Especially right when you got your nails done. Trust you. You just be like I love the

Vanna Rosethreshold. I swear like if I'm in an argument I do use my hands though. I hate that though because I feel like a lot of the times like I don't want to be threatening people like if I'm arguing with them but then I'm all like in their face and I'm like I would be scared too but not like scared but like I'd be like

Brian Atlaswhy is this [ __ ] put hands in my face? Who the hell cares? Just kidding. Just kidding. Crystal, you wrote Crystal, you said or well, you agree with the following statement. Adult age gap

Brian Atlasrelationships are wrong. I need to fix that. That's [ __ ] Um, adult age gap relationships are wrong. Why? Why is that? Just not a lot of common interests. Like, you're with somebody because you

Crystal (Sociology)have common interests, not because they're young or uh cuz they look better. You you think common interests is the only reason people are with each other. It's

Crystal (Sociology)the it's the base of why people are together. Common commonality. It's not common. Commonality and attraction. Yeah. Well, attraction is the first

Crystal (Sociology)thing. Yeah. Go ahead. Attraction is the first thing uh that comes up when you meet somebody. But once you're with somebody, um common common interests are

Brian Atlaswhat keeps people together. And do you think men are more likely to find say women between the age of 20 to 25 more physically attractive? Probably. But it doesn't keep them together.

Brian AtlasPerhaps not necessarily. But if there is uh that mutual interest, mutual attraction, and you can have things in common with somebody who's younger than

Crystal (Sociology)you, what's the actual uh issue? I guess probably because if an older person is dating somebody younger, it's more likely because they're young, not

Brian Atlasbecause of common interests. So, what is the ultimate uh thing that people go for? Common interest or just

Crystal (Sociology)physical attractiveness? At first, attraction. But I mean, if you're dating somebody younger because they're younger at first, it most of the time doesn't

Vanna Roselast because most of the time So let's even if it's true. So I feel like a lot of the times like I feel like older men like they actually are more aware of

Vanna Roselike things like they've been through like more stuff. So, it's kind of like more of an understanding of like what they need to provide and what they need not provide. Like, not that they need to provide, but as for younger men, they're

Vanna Rosegoing through the still like wanting to be young and do all the like the things that kind of hurt you more. As for like the older guys, not all of them because like I'm not saying that all older men are like that type of person, but

Vanna Rosetypically they're more understanding of like the way that you act and like the reasons behind it and like they've gone through like those things to like understand that. Like typically, wait, why did you say it was wrong? Like

Crystal (Sociology)inherently wrong? Yeah. What's What's the argument? It's not inherently wrong, but I feel it's wrong because most of the time when somebody's looking for when they get with somebody younger,

Crystal (Sociology)it's because they're young, not be well because they are attract because as long as we're obviously consenting adults. Yeah. It's not wrong,

Vanna Rosebut it just um it's like doesn't last long is what I'm saying. I feel like it lasts longer because they actually are aware of what they need to do. as for younger men like there are like people in that age most of the time like for

Vanna Roseexample I'm 23 like a 23year-old for me isn't going to understand like at what I want especially if I'm looking for something longer term like they they're not really looking for a longer

Vanna Roseterm relationship so older men like are typically more available to wanting that like younger men are like oh they just want to date they want to [ __ ] around and do all this stuff while for older men a lot of the times they're like yeah

Vanna RoseI want to settle down and it kind of gives you like the understanding of like that they wanted they know what they want more than younger men. Also, don't fact check me on this, but I I think it's either married couples or even just

Anya Matusevichdating couples. I'm pretty sure it's married couples like age gap relationships end up working more often than than closer um ages. But like don't fact

Anya Matusevichdon't fact check me on that. I think I just saw something about that. I've seen that before though. Um but yeah, there was some statistic that was like um relationships with age gaps typically actually work out more often than not.

Vanna RoseYeah, I feel like it really depends on the man because it's like, you know, like yeah, obviously there's manipulators out there and everything like that, but I feel like you as a woman know the way that they're acting and the way that they're treating you.

Vanna RoseLike off the bat, you would know if they're trying to manipulate you or if they're really just trying to find something, you know? And like obviously like being an older guy, it's nice to be attracted to like obviously they're going to be attracted to like younger women. And a lot of the times too, like

Vanna Rosefor example, in my own personal experiences, the older guys I've been with, the reason they don't want to be with the same aged women is because a lot of the times like they've lost like not everybody, but like a lot of times they don't like want to have fun. They

Vanna Rosedon't know how to like let loose and like be like different. They want to have that experience still, but still be able to be loyal to them. And I a lot of the times younger girls don't know

SPEAKER_05they're being manipulated. Just really quickly, I think I might not get this stat completely correct, but I think that I read somewhere that um men reach emotional maturity by the age of

SPEAKER_0538 and women um reach emotional maturity much younger. So I think it could kind of you know that's just an argument in

Crystal (Sociology)favor of age gap. What what would what's like an acceptable age gap for you? Depends on how the old they are. I wouldn't say like Yeah. How about a

Crystal (Sociology)20-year-old dating a 30-year-old? I would say late 20s for a 20-year-old, not a 30-year-old. I feel like when you're 30 and like like So 29. Okay.

Brian AtlasProbably like 27. Okay. 27. Okay. So, for example, if I was I'm uh I'm 36. If I was dating a 25-year-old, is that would that be too much of a age gap? Probably. Yeah. No,

Vanna Rosethat's I feel like that's not really fair because like like she said, most of the time you mature around that age and to be honest with you, it's like

Vanna Rosenowadays like so you're saying that they have to stick to that generation of people that if it's not what like for example I'm an older soul like I've always hung out with older people. I've never hung out with people that are

Vanna Rosenormally my age group. So for me, like I wouldn't want to have to limit myself to people that aren't think the same way as me or act the same way as me over just being an age. I I guess I see it more as

Crystal (Sociology)like I'm dating this person because they're young, not because I have common interests or like wanted. Yeah, but that's also perspective. If you had to

Brian Atlassteal man the the position of men dating younger women, what would be the reasons for why men would want to date younger

Crystal (Sociology)women? more attractive. Uh probably don't fight as much about about like different topics. Easily moldable.

Vanna RoseI feel like younger Wait, continue. Birthable. Fertility. Fertility. Fertility. Fun. Just more fun. Exactly. That's what I said. Like they want to have more. Exactly. Like they don't want to have to deal with someone who's just

Brian Atlasgoing to be like this. Let me ask you a question. So, um, explain to me what would be the benefit to me of dating a 35-year-old over a

Crystal (Sociology)25-year-old. It's I would see it as like more lasting. Wait, like the relationship long Wait, did you the relationship

Crystal (Sociology)lasts longer? Wait, did you say molesting? No. Did she not say molesting? I I I put the words together. Oh, more lasting. What? Yeah, more lasting.

Crystal (Sociology)Okay. Um, the relationships. Okay. Okay. That's not really compelling. I mean, you get with people to stay with

Vanna Rosethem. I feel it is. Yeah. But why can't someone who's like why can't me being 23 years old want to date someone older and want to laugh that last? Like just because they're Wouldn't they wait? But

Brian Atlasif if we take this If we take this argument to its logical conclusion, if like the primary thing people are trying to do when they get into relationships is making sure that they last, which by the way, I think it's a good thing for

Brian Atlasrelation. Hopefully, the relationship lasts forever. Yeah. But wouldn't it then be the case that if that was the primary goal, people would

Brian Atlasactively actively date well below their league? Because it would somehow make sense if you really dated below your league. Like this person would be lucky to be with

Brian Atlasyou and they would be more likely to stay with you. What do you consider below your league? Like if you're really really physically attractive and they're really really ugly and they have and like you have a I don't know. That could

Crystal (Sociology)be it. I mean, I wouldn't get with them because they're because I wouldn't be attracted to them, right? But so it always comes to down to attraction then.

Crystal (Sociology)Uh first impression is attraction. So, and are more are men more attracted to younger women? Yes. And it lasts a certain amount of time, but it doesn't last forever because if that's the only

Vanna Rosereason you're staying with somebody, it doesn't he'll be by the time she For me, if I'm going to be with someone, I'm I'm going to want them. Like for me, like when I settle down, I want them to be

Vanna Roseolder than me because I want to be able to have that, you know, understanding of like the way that cuz they're going to be more capable of actually being able to know what they want in a relationship because they've already gone through all

Vanna Roseof those things. As for like someone younger, like they're not going to know exactly what they want. And a lot of people like my age aren't really to like the mind that I have. Not saying I have a bigger mind than that, but I am an old

Vanna Rosesoul. I've always connected with older people always. It's just kind of how it's been. So I feel like that would be fair for someone just because of like and all the times it doesn't always have to do with the tr like just because

Vanna Rosethey're young that's the only reason why. Like some people don't even look at age. Like I feel like age nothing but a number. You know what I mean? Like the Leah song. So for me if someone's looking at me and they're like oh cuz they're young. No, they're looking at me

Vanna Rosebecause she has these mindsets and she's capable of all these things. Like they don't even look at the age. They're looking at the person as a whole. I do think as well like girls, we like to

SPEAKER_05learn things from our man, you know? So if a guy is a bit older, he can teach us stuff that we don't know and it kind of makes you feel a little bit more safe. Agreed. Having someone who's, you know,

SPEAKER_05lived longer and can handle more knowledgeable, more experienced. But I I want to pose the question to you again, Crystal. What in terms of the benefits, right?

Brian AtlasWhat benefit is there to me dating a 35-year-old over a 25-year-old? It just depends on why you're with them.

Crystal (Sociology)Yeah. I'm asking you what the benefits would be. It It doesn't matter if it's 25 or 35. It like there's diff there's not going to be different benefits. I'm

Crystal (Sociology)saying the the older guy if he's dating somebody because they're younger and they are physically attract

Crystal (Sociology)attracted to them firsthand and and they that's the only reason why they stay with them, it's not going to last long. Okay. But

Brian AtlasI don't even know how to approach this one. Um, again though, if we all prioritized for it would last long, then people would

Vanna Roseactively seek out like partners that are less attractive than them cuz they wouldn't know that they wouldn't leave them. Yeah, exactly. You want them They could still leave you, but it would

Vanna Roseargue it would be argue arguably less likely for somebody if if you're dating below your league. Yeah. They're less likely to break up with you. You still want to be attracted to them though. But he's saying that as in terms as like, so

Brian Atlaswhat's the difference between and I also just want to be attracted to that woman that I'm with. And this typically happens to be like younger women are typically more physically attractive. Are you going to not stay with them

Brian Atlaslater when they get old then? No. If that's my partner, then you're going to stay with them. It's not like I'm just going to upgrade to a younger model. No. It's not always that's what he's saying that it's not always about the

Vanna Roseattractiveness like that. Just because someone's young doesn't mean that that's because they're more attractive. It's just also they that person they are into. Like it doesn't have to do anything with the age. It doesn't have to do with the attractiveness to them

Vanna Rosecuz it it's more than just attraction when you're in a relationship. It comes down to a lot more things than that. So he's basically saying that that would basically say, "Oh, I'm going to be with someone uglier just so that the relationship doesn't break." Basically saying, "Oh, I'm not going to be with

Vanna Rosesomeone younger just because of the relationship might not last." He's like basically saying that that's where it doesn't make sense. Yeah. I mean, I guess where I get where you're coming from, but but again, I'm I

Brian Atlasstill haven't really gotten the answer. What is the benefit if you're trying to like deter men from dating younger women because you you're against age gap relationships?

Brian AtlasWhat is the actual argument for no, don't date her, date her. Is it just it's like it's more she's more likely to

Crystal (Sociology)stay with you? I I wouldn't necessarily say that. I I I just took it as like older people looking for younger people because

Crystal (Sociology)they're more attractive. That's the whole reason why I put Yeah. Yeah. Okay. A 35year-old dating a 20-year-old. You object to this, right?

Brian AtlasYeah. Yeah. Does it give you the ick? Yeah. Yeah. Gives you the Okay. Um, but you even said like 35 25 have some obje

Brian Atlasobjections there. Do you want to make an argument for why? I mean, I feel like I kind of said I mean, let

Brian Atlasme ask you a question. Would you have an objection with a if you had a uh time machine and there's a 35-year-old who's dating a 20-year-old, but you know, you can see

Brian Atlasinto the future that they're going to get married and they're going to have a good healthy relationship and they're never going to

Brian Atlasseparate. Do you have any issues beyond just higher incidence of breakup? Do you have any issues with the 35-year-old dating the 20-year-old if they end up

Crystal (Sociology)staying together for the rest of their life? I I feel like it depends on the per person cuz I feel older men looking for younger women have different

Crystal (Sociology)intentions than what you're saying. What are their intentions? To basically be more It's easier to manipulate someone who is

Brian Atlasyounger than That's what I was looking for. But the thing is it's easy. Let's let her finish. It's easier to manipulate. Expand on that.

Crystal (Sociology)Basically, I mean, if a 35-year-old is dating a 20-year-old, he I feel like he feels he can do whatever he want and

Brian Atlaswants. And what do you mean by do whatever he wants? What does that mean?

Crystal (Sociology)I mean kind of for example maybe cheating and saying oh it's your fault and then the girl believing oh it's my fault because he cheated not his fault do that of any age. That's what I was

Vanna Rosegoing to that was what I was about to say after this. You can easily manipulate anybody at any age like it doesn't matter like just and to for me like I'm I feel like I'm very like aware of certain things that I'm going to know if someone's trying to manipulate me.

SPEAKER_05like I'm not going to just let somebody manipulate me just because I'm 23 years old. Like that's not really you can flip it on its head as well and also think you know this man can teach me a lot that I don't already know. So that's then that's that's a beautiful thing.

Vanna RoseAnd if you feel like they're manipulating you that that's when the people would leave. And at the end of the day, everyone makes their own decision. So if someone were to stay with the manipulation, then that is their choice. But typically not everybody's just dating younger women

Crystal (Sociology)just to manipulate them. Like I feel like that's standard. I wouldn't say all of them, but it's more likely for younger women to believe the older

Vanna Roseperson. I'm not saying everybody, but some will. I feel like anybody, it's like people are going to like not everybody, but a lot of people like in a relationship, if someone's going to lie, like it doesn't always just have to be

Vanna Rosebecause they're younger. Like people are just like going to be like that no matter what. Like they're going to do that to their 35-year-old girlfriend. and they're going to do that to their 23-year-old girlfriend if that's just the type of person that they are. Yeah. So, are but I guess my confusion here,

Brian Atlasyou would agree that same age relationships can be predatory and abusive, right? Yeah. Okay. So, assuming the older individual has good intentions, do you have any objections

Brian Atlasbeyond what you've already stated? I wouldn't say so. No. Okay. So, so long as the 35-year-old has good intentions,

Crystal (Sociology)you're fine with him dating a 20-year-old. Yeah. As long as it's not based on looks and No, it is based on looks. I mean, like you're if they have good

Brian Atlasintentions. Yeah. Yeah. That's I mean, sure, he likes other things about her, too, but Yeah. Okay. I just don't see it that way most of the

Brian Atlastime. Do you think it's predatory? Um I mean with most I feel like with most guys. Yeah. Oh, okay. Most guys So

Brian Atlasmost guys who who have a preference for younger women, it's predatory. What do you What do you mean by

Brian Atlaspredatory? Uh I mean seeking to take advantage of I would say yeah. Okay. So how how are

Brian Atlasmost men who have an interest in younger women? How are they seeking to take advantage of these younger adult women?

Crystal (Sociology)I mean, I I feel like I kind of said they are more able, I feel, to um push their beliefs and and uh have them

Brian Atlasbehave the way they want them to. Manipulate, I think, is the word you're looking for. Yeah. Okay. Um you think it's more likely.

Brian AtlasYeah. It's just kind of an assertion though. I don't know if I hear an argument. So, any man you date, I could just say you're trying to take advantage of him.

Brian AtlasSo, how would it how is it manipulative or predatory? It depends on their intentions. Their intentions are good. They want a

Crystal (Sociology)long-term monogous relationship. Well, then I would say yeah, it's it's fine. Okay. Yeah. I mean, if they have good

Crystal (Sociology)intentions and uh they both care for each other and have common interests and all that, I don't feel that would be uh predatory. What if they have no common

Brian Atlasinterest? Why are you with them? Well, they have they have uh similar values, but in terms of common interest, they don't have the same hobbies. They don't have

Brian Atlasthe same taste in music, same taste in movies, same taste in shows, same taste in food, I feel like, but she's just really really hot.

Crystal (Sociology)I mean, if they're if they're like say both Christians and like maybe have one interest, the both Christian. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't I mean I feel like that

Brian Atlaswould work. So, question. If I presented to you an age gap relationship, say a 35-year-old dating a 20-year-old, but there was no manipulation occurring. She said it, you witnessed it, it's a

Brian Atlashealthy relationship. Can you make an argument against that relationship? No. Okay. All right. Good times, I guess. Um. All right. Uh, guys, $30 TTS. We're going to

SPEAKER_07do a roast session, then we're going to wrap the show. Okay. We got Pasty George here. Thank you, brother. George donated $70. Hey, George. Hey, George. You're a buller. Western men have more in common with young traditional women in other

SPEAKER_07countries that do not have the internet, including social media, but have access to education. Uh-huh. Thank you, Pasty George.

Brian AtlasThat's for you, Chair 5. I'm I'm kind of confused at the question. Would would me western men have more in common with young traditional women in other countries that do not have the internet including social media but have access

Brian Atlasto education? Uh what is access to education? What do men and women have in common with like

Brian Atlaswhat what would it what would I have in common with a woman that would make me more into her? Sense of humor, shared interests.

Vanna RoseMaybe like you guys like the same like type of like you guys are kind of like the type of people like that want to be motivated to do things like you both have motivation to want to like accomplish something in your lives to be

SPEAKER_05ambition same taste in movies and books loads of things. Yeah. Like yeah movies books I think you even need to have in common really. You don't need to have everything in common. And it's nice to

Brian Atlasbe able to do your own thing, but it's good to have like Tell Tell me what I would have in common with a 35year-old that I can't have in common with a 25-year-old. Not really in any I feel like that's not

Brian Atlasthat much of an age difference. A little bit more life experience. That's it. Yeah, that's it. I I don't think men value life experience. I'm not saying they do. I'm just saying that's the only thing I can think of, Brian.

SPEAKER_05I mean, they grew up in a different decade. The only thing I could think of would be like my last two boyfriends were 10 years older than me and they were the best like relationships I ever had. So, what did you say? The only thing I could think of would be like generational things, but I don't really

Vanna Rosethink that matters that much. Yeah, exactly. Especially because like still everyone wants it to be traditional just as it was back in the time. So, it's like what? Yeah, exactly. So, it would be like that would it Yeah, I'm agreeing

Anya Matusevichwith you. Oh my god, she didn't watch the original Karate Kid movie. I'm done. Over jumped. Yeah, you can. show the person all these things like if they matter so much to you. I feel like a lot

Vanna Roseof times if people have too much in common like then it's like boring. Yeah. Exactly. Like for example some people like in a relationship, right? You go out they you you both can't match your guys' energy when it comes to being crazy. If both of you guys are crazy, it's going to be too crazy. There needs

Vanna Roseto be a little bit of a chill one and there needs to be somebody so you guys can balance each other. So, I feel like that's also nice to have like an older guy that's like a little bit more chilled out so that when you go out and stuff, you feel that safe and you feel like you can kind of do that because

Vanna Rosethey don't feel like they need to be doing that instead of like two 23 year olds that are just going crazy and then it's like no one's there to balance each other. Yeah. What are you going to talk about if you just have the same thing in

SPEAKER_05common? Yeah, I like Yeah, me too. Yeah. Right. Nothing to talk about, nothing to learn. Like you guys just Yeah. Music taste is important though cuz you don't want to be having to listen to like bait

SPEAKER_05when you want to listen to Oasis. True. In the car. You know what I mean? I would do it if I if I love them. What you say? Sorry. Sorry. Is it a deal breaker if they don't have the same That's what I'm saying. But it's just

Brian Atlasit's just that is one thing I would deal with. She listens to rap music. I'm not going to lie. And I feel like younger women lean a bit more towards listening to rap. What? I don't know if it's a I

Vanna RoseDJ old school hip hop. I feel like I like I'm talking I'm talking like more I don't know past 5 10 years stuff. Are you talking about like sexy red? Cuz I don't listen to sexy. She's despicable.

Vanna RoseYeah. I don't know. I don't know. Terrible. I don't know the rap song. No, it's vulgar and Yeah, it's like it's honestly crazy. It's a lot especially for the fact that kids like there's like three-year-olds that are like not three-year-olds, but I have like

Vanna Rose5year-olds that are like singing it like I'm scared. Like I'm like that shit's terrible. That's that's where things are wrong. Yeah. No, me neither. Every time people

Vanna Rosedance to it at the club, I'm like like this is not cute. I get requested for hat all the time. All right, we're going to let some more chats come through. We got Clay here.

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Pervin/Pearlthat I guess it's I guess it's a bad thing to ask questions. Sorry. Yeah. God, it's horrible. Death queen. Yeah, bro. Everyone always does that to me.

SPEAKER_07Bl. Let me fix that. Thank you. Blist donated $30. What if a 40year-old man and a 21-year-old woman wanted to start an together? Would that be okay? I would

Crystal (Sociology)say yeah, because what's really the difference? It's I I don't think Only Fan is Only Fans is more I think Yeah, she's against OF so maybe not the best

Brian Atlasquestion. Uh sorry, mister. Wait, how about this though, just for blah fest here. Blest, you owe me this one. What would you rather see?

Brian Atlasuh a guy being in a long-term monogous committed relationship like 35 dating a 20-year-old or those two same people just having a one night stand and that's it?

Brian AtlasWhich two people? 20 35 and the 20-year-old staying together. Oh, but like wouldn't you agree that there's much more opportunity for a girl to be manipulated in a

Brian Atlaslong-term relationship? You say they weren't. I thought you said it was a good relationship. And I said it was a long-term monogous relationship, but you would you would agree with me even under those circumstances that

Crystal (Sociology)manipulation could occur. She could be manipulated. Yeah. I mean, if you're giving me two two uh choices, I'm going to pick the other one. It's less. But you would agree that like if a girl just

Brian Atlashas a one night stand and that's the extent it's kind of hard absent her I suppose her being manipulated into sex beyond

Crystal (Sociology)that manipulated in other ways she wouldn't be I I just don't I don't know I don't believe in one night stands I don't I

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SPEAKER_07are now predators and will divorce a man over stupid things like him forgetting to put down the toilet seat and telling her no when she is wrong. Oh, this is a little cray cray mystery. You know what?

Brian AtlasI actually This reminds me I've never shared this anecdote before. By the way, $30 TTS, guys, if you'd like to get it in. Also, uh pull up the thing shop.what whatever.com because you can also get

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Brian Atlasgenuine flack, not like banter for having left. She was at my place leaving my toilet seat up. What was she? And we hooked up. What's she doing? But

SPEAKER_05there was not a second not a second date. I'm just confused and baffled at why she was leaving the toilet seat up. No, she was at your home, right? She was

Brian Atlasat my spot. I went to use the bathroom. Oh, sorry. I left the toilet seat up. And then she's like, "Wow, why did you leave that toilet seat up?" It's your place, man. Like, who does she think she is? Well, there was, to be fair, that

Brian Atlaswasn't the only reason that there wasn't anything else. What if it was? But that was a strike against her. Yeah. Yeah. And there was some other [ __ ] too. But like, yeah, I had if it was in her place, which is what I initially thought. No, it's still okay. Well, I

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