100 Body Count By 19?! She CHEATED On Fiancé W/ His BEST Friend? ØF Mom/Daughter? | Dating Talk #247

Date: 2025-06-16

Duration: 7h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAnya Matusevich >

CCrystal (Sociology)>

PPervin/Pearl >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Crystal (Sociology)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Pervin/Pearl(guest)

SPEAKER_06Felicity Hughes(guest)

SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_13Anya Matusevich(guest)

SPEAKER_14Vanna Rose(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian introduces episode with remote Andrew Wilson

Topics Discussed

Episode with Andrew Wilson remote

Andrew Wilson joins remotely. Multiple guests.

Transcript

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Anya Matusevichout sleeping with men. I don't know if that's really the case anymore, but I don't really know like what the point of the question is because it's like he's basically asking me would I there's two different things

Anya Matusevichhere. He's saying would you sleep with a man who slept with other men here? I I'll frame it like this. Do you think a woman's past should not matter? I think it should matter somewhat. I think her body count. Yeah. Her body

Brian Atlascount. Yeah. Like if a guy didn't want to date you just because of your body count. I think that's totally fair. Oh, okay. That's totally fair. I think the he would then argue, okay, well, if if you said, "Oh, woman's past shouldn't matter." He would probably pause it,

Anya Matusevichwell, okay, what about a guy who used to sleep with men? No, that's totally fair. Okay. I I I wouldn't sleep with a man who has slept with other men. Going to

SPEAKER_05Chloe, uh, should a woman's past matter? Um, no. Or no. Yes, it does matter. Sorry. And

SPEAKER_05um, yeah, I think so. I think that men respect women who aren't easy. What about you? Like I like uh she said

Vanna Rosethe first that I feel like it it depends to a point like and to a point. Mhm. Okay. What about you? I would say yeah. Um pass past matters. Yeah. Okay. What

SPEAKER_05about you? Into the mic for me if a guy chose not to be with you. Can you tilt your mic down? Can you move your mic over this way? Sorry, I keep getting Is this one Leave it where it is, please? Is this one right here? Yeah, you're fine. Okay, cool. So, I would say that

SPEAKER_05if a guy didn't want to be with me due to my body count, then he's not the right guy for me. So, okay. So, it shouldn't matter. Uh, no, not at all. Um, it should matter just like we were

Pervin/Pearltalking previously about preferences of life choices, you know, to do only fans or to not do it. It should be the preference of a man or a woman to decide whether they want to pursue this

Brian Atlaspartner. And it's all about compatibility. All right. going around the table then people you know pass should matter should matter uh body count Felicity you go first two uh we're

Vanna Rosegoing to skip over to Chloe um five okay we're going to go around we're going to go to you I mean I don't really want to like talk about that cuz I don't really know

Vanna Roseexactly like did you lose track no I just don't feel like I really want to talk about that topic exactly cuz I'm not I don't really want to talk like I would say like seven but Like I don't

SPEAKER_05really want I don't really want to say that but feel like it doesn't really matter. Okay. Um going to you body count. I never counted

SPEAKER_05ever. You want to do a range a ballpark? Um for me specifically I've probably been I'm 44 years old. Um

SPEAKER_05I don't know at least a hundred men and if you include women probably 200. Okay. And wait, question. Um, do you

Brian Atlasrecall what it was like because you guys opened up your relationship, right? Um, what was it like when you got married?

Brian AtlasWhen I got married? I I I really honestly never ever counted. But But do you think that that the high proportion of that

Brian Atlasyou said 100 plus for including men, 200 plus if you include women? Do you think that that occurred half after you opened up the marriage and then started doing I'd probably say half and half. Yeah. I

Brian Atlaswas promiscuous when I was young. Okay. Permiss. I had no intention on getting married or doing anything like that. So you think it was maybe between the range of like 50 to 100 prior to marriage?

SPEAKER_05Yeah. I'd say around Yeah. 50 I'd probably say 50 women 50 men before marriage and then 50 women 50 men after marriage. So, didn't you get married

Andrew Wilsonsuper young? Like 20? Yes. 19? Wait. So, at 19 years old, you had 50 and 50. Yeah. Yeah. I would I mean, I never counted.

SPEAKER_05Like I told you, you're asking me a question of I I never for me, I never saw a point of counting. Like, if I wanted to to have sex with somebody, I

Brian Atlaswould do it. Was it um do you recall like how young were you when you first Yeah, I lost my virginity at 13. Mhm. Like with a boyfriend or Yeah, with

Brian Atlasa boyfriend. Well, it was my best friend's brother to be honest with you. Mhm. Well, she knew. Sorry. She knew. The T knew. And then by like the end of

SPEAKER_05high school, do you know what it might have been by like end of high school? I I never ever counted. that I I was never one of those people that were like, "Oh, you know, there was Bobby

SPEAKER_05and Justin and Damian and Jquas." No. And but I've been on on my own since I was 13 years old, right? When girls were worrying about prom and

SPEAKER_05dances and things like that, I was worrying about like how I was going to feed myself, where I was going to stay, things to that nature, right? I just came from a completely different life then. Wait, have you done any escorting?

SPEAKER_05Oh, no. I never did escorting. No, I never did that. I I mean I I worked I had a job uh I lived on a reservation. I had a job at Arby's at a at 14 years old. I was doing paper routes. I was

SPEAKER_05literally surviving. By the age of 16, I was traveling across the United States selling magazines door to door and I had a fake ID. I was going to bars. I was having one night stands. I was going to

SPEAKER_05Migra. I was just doing crazy things that a normal 24 25year-old do but at a very young age. I had to grow up extremely fast. So, I just never I I

SPEAKER_05just while girls were worrying about prom dresses like I wasn't going like one there's Freddy and Lisa and Marie and all that kind of stuff. I was living

Brian Atlasit up. Got it. Okay. Uh moving through the rest of the notes here. Uh Chloe, really quick, just a recap here. You said last show that you pass out during sex because of a condition that you

SPEAKER_05have. Yeah. What do you want to talk about? Well, that's one of the reasons why I have I think like a I mean, some people

SPEAKER_05might think that five is like a high body count, but for me, um like I just don't like trust people because I have that problem with passing out. Um

SPEAKER_05because you can like take advantage of me. Um so yeah. Doesn't it only happen though while you're already having No,

SPEAKER_05like if someone fingers me or like eats me out, it happens too. A allegedly. Allegedly. We don't know if this is a

Andrew Wilsonruse deal with that. We don't know what the truth is, Chloe. We don't know. I have a followup also from the previous question on body count. Um, those of you who answered the body count question,

Brian Atlascan you quickly raise your hand very quickly? Oh, wait. We need to Did we not get the answer? Oh, Anya. Okay, really quick. Let's finish it. Anya, body count. Uh, five men, two women. Body

SPEAKER_05count? I prefer quality over quantity and I'm so 50. No, but I'm basically just my

Brian Atlasboyfriend's. So, which has been like a million like five. So, multiply it by three and that's the real number. Five. Okay, whatever. There wasn't there

SPEAKER_05wasn't that one time in Aiza. There wasn't that one time. There wasn't that one time in Monaco. No, back then. I was too busy

SPEAKER_05doing drugs and drinking then. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Kind of joking.

Pervin/PearlUh, did we get body count? One. I wish it was zero. Biggest. Is it your heart boyfriend? Regret. Wait, sorry. Go. You said Yeah, I said one. Wish it was zero.

Pervin/PearlBiggest regret and mistake cuz I wish I like waited. Was it Is it your current relationship? Yeah. But you regret Wait, question. Are you Yeah, just regret not waiting. I just wish like it was

Pervin/Pearlpostponed. Like I wish it didn't happen. But are you guys So you like has nothing to do with him personally. I just personally I wish I

Pervin/Pearlhad waited, you know. But so are you continuing to wait? Um, or are you guys in an active sexual relationship? Um, no. It's has nothing to do with whether

Pervin/Pearlwe are or not. It's just I wish it never happened. No, I know. I'm just asking based off of just the way that I like perceive. Okay. But I'm just I'm just asking. I get that you wish it never

Brian Atlashappened. Are you It's with your current boyfriend. Are you guys in an actively se sex sexually active relationship? No. So, it

Pervin/Pearlwas like a one-time mistake. Not a one time. Like, it happened, but he's like the only person. That's why I wish it never happened. Does that make sense? So, it happened once. No, it happened multiple times, but I'm talking about

Pervin/Pearllike it happened with one specific person. I just wish it never happened with your current boyfriend. Yes. Okay. Like I wish I waited. Like I wish it didn't happen. Wait, so you guys, so

Brian Atlasyou've been dating for 3 years? Yes. How far into the relationship did that happen? Um, I would say like within the first year. Okay. But you guys are now

Pervin/Pearlboth remaining celibate. Yeah. Was that your idea or his? Mine. Is he a religious guy? Is he also Orthodox Christian? I would. Yeah, he is. But like him aside, just personal preference

Pervin/Pearllike I wish it never happened. No dis to him. Nothing towards him specifically. Okay. Um,

Brian Atlasand was he on was he on board with that? Yeah. With not having sex anymore. Okay. Uh, everybody answer the body count

Crystal (Sociology)question. Um, I refer prefer not to say. Do you want to do range or ballpark? Uh, less than 10. Okay. Dope. So, my my

Andrew Wilsonfollowup here. Okay. This is a fun social experiment. So, all you guys got to put your hands on the table right in front of you. Go ahead. Everybody puts their hands on the table right in front

Andrew Wilsonof them. All right. So, I'm going to ask a question and I if if after I'm done with the question, I just want you to

Andrew Wilsonraise your hand. Okay? If uh if you know depending on if it's true or false, raise your hand. If I asked you if your

Andrew Wilsonbody count would increase based on [ __ ] would it raise your hand?

SPEAKER_05And capping ass lion ass [ __ ] women. [ __ ] capp lion ass [ __ ] women. [ __ ] capping maybe. So every single time you like

Andrew Wilsonyou had sex, but no. You you said no. Would your body count increase if you counted [ __ ] If you counted [ __ ] would your body count increase? Show of hands.

Vanna RoseI don't know. I'm going to hand I'm a half hand. I'm a half hand cuz I don't All right. All right. I really didn't

Brian Atlaslike to keep counting. Anyways, are you coming back to the table or

SPEAKER_05Sorry.

SPEAKER_05Oh, can we move our hands? I thought we're doing like the if you've done this, have you done this? All right. I'm just asking if the body count would increase. Would the body

Vanna Rosecount answer be different if we based it on things like [ __ ] fingerings, things like that? Would the bo would the body count? probably fingering and stuff like that might have changed because like when you're

Vanna Roseyounger, you know, like I feel like it was like different cuz like we like I didn't have sex with like I didn't have sex until like I was with the guy for like three me and him were together for like two and a half 3 years almost but

Brian Atlasbefore that like I've done like little side things like that like when you're like younger. All right, moving on to the notes. Annabelle, you said you used to live in London when you were 23. You're the epitome of a good girl. You

Brian Atlasended up doing a runaway bride type situation. You actually ended up running away with your fiance's best friend, but that relationship ended up being six years. So, arguably the cheating, which

SPEAKER_05you still felt bad about, was kind of worth it. Well, yeah. Well, I still feel like that's such a sickening and awful thing to do,

SPEAKER_05but I did. Sorry. Um, however, the only thing that kind of like stops me from kind of hating myself so much about what I did

SPEAKER_05is that at least the person that I ran away with and cheated on, like it was quite it was a long and loving relationship and I I but like I take full accountability and trust me, karma

Brian Atlasgot me. Uh, a couple questions here on this. Um, so you guys were engaged. Yeah. How how long had you guys been

Brian Atlasdating? Uh, two years. Okay. And a clarifying question, had you was there infidelity prior to the running away

SPEAKER_05bit? There was we kissed and then we it was kind of like it sounds this sounds really really really crazy but like the moment we kissed we both kind of like realized

SPEAKER_05that we were like really in love with each other. And so then we kind of like were like we've got to run away and like cuz cuz we we didn't want it to we

SPEAKER_05didn't want it to go any further because we knew that that would be like even worse, you know. But did you literally run away like you left the city or? Yeah, we we we booked a flight to Bali.

SPEAKER_05And this is like karma is real because on the way on the plane to Bali, my dad died. So I landed in Bali with my

SPEAKER_05runaway lover and then Yeah. So karma really is real, guys. Did you say Bali? Bali. Yeah. Indonesia.

Brian AtlasYeah. Was his name was his name Jake by chance? No. Why? Oh, okay. I was just curious. I need uh some some clarifying questions here. Uh so you were dating the guy the

Brian Atlasoriginal guy your fiance for sorry two years he said three years. Two years. Yeah. Okay. And had you cheated on with him on anybody else or sorry? Absolutely. With anybody else or just

Brian Atlaswith his best friend? Yeah. Only only with his best friend. Yeah. But so how how soon after the kiss did the runaway happen? Like two three weeks we were

Brian Atlastrying to because we didn't want it to keep going on. You know what I mean? We felt so guilty like I felt sick. Wanted to be in in a different hemisphere before you had sex. I mean I was best

Brian Atlasfriend. Yeah. I was young. It was Oh, you said 23. Yeah. When this happened. Okay. I assume the wedding was Had the wedding been planned? I'd actually paid

Brian Atlasfor the whole wedding. So, I canceled it. How close to you uh how close were you to the wedding? Six months. Okay. Six months away. Yeah. Uh how much had

Brian Atlasbeen paid for for the wedding or whatever? About £50,000. £50,000. Uh and had you guys had you had feelings for the best friend during the course of the relationship? No, it was literally

Brian Atlasjust like in one night just like boom. It was absolutely it was the strangest thing ever. Best friend. his best friend. That's like multiple betrayals. I

SPEAKER_05actually sometimes think that he the best friend is like obviously what I did was morally despicable, but I think the best friend is even worse because

Brian Atlasfriendship of like 20 years. I mean, yeah. Who's more evil, her or the or the best friend? Yeah. It's I

SPEAKER_05mean, both. It's both. It's It's both just Yeah. It's disgusting. And I take full accountability for it and I've apologized and I How did he take it? Your fiance? He was really confused. He

SPEAKER_05was very upset and then I had to come back to London for my dad's funeral and everyone thought we were engaged and it was just a complete [ __ ] show. Absolute shitow. Mhm. Damn. Okay. Uh you said, "However,

Brian Atlasnow that you're 34, you're still single. So you'd love to discuss the topic whether you've done the right thing as a DJ, whether your job could be perceived as promiscuous." Yeah. You said you have a lot of regrets yet. Respect yourself.

SPEAKER_05You're super MAGA by the way. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I do think that sometimes because of because like so I don't really go out like clubbing and get wasted and stuff, but if people see

SPEAKER_05you behind the DJ decks, you I am out at night and I am in that environment. And so I think that, you know, a lot of you don't exactly find like great men in a

SPEAKER_05nightclub listening to hip-hop and R&B. And so I think I'm kind of sometimes like pushed into that category of the like party girl when I'm not really. I'm

Andrew Wilsonjust the DJ if that makes sense. Okay. Yeah. Good times. By the way, guys, it was a pleasure meeting all of you. Got to get out of here this evening. I enjoyed the conversations back and

Andrew Wilsonforth. I never hold any ill will or bad blood towards anybody. I know that the panels can get contentious, but um you know that's that's part of having conversations is that you have

Brian Atlascontention. So I was uh happy to talk to everybody and I hope all of you have a wonderful evening. Pleasure to meet you. Nice to meet you. Thank you for tuning in, Andrew. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Andrew. Have a good night. Have a good night. I have to go. So

Brian Atlassalute. All right. You can hide that on Discord and we'll probably hide it also on the center Zoom too. Uh if you want to just grab that. Okay. Hide it there. Yep. All right. So, uh, getting into

Anya MatusevichAnya's notes. Anya, I know this, uh, you have a God tattoo on your side. Yeah. Um, what does it say? It's not an actual, it's not like in the Bible or anything. It's the serenity prayer from AA. God, grant me the serenity to accept

Anya Matusevichthe things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Um, it was mainly to I don't want to get too deep into it, but to

Anya Matusevichit's an AA and it means a lot to my family and a lot means a lot to me. Um, I struggled a little bit with addiction in my own life and um, even though like

Anya MatusevichI I can still drink here and there, I choose not to use any elicit substances. Um, but I still think it's a great prayer to kind of use in your daily life. I literally have that in like in my room. I have this glass thing and it

Vanna Rosesits there and it has the same exact It's literally the exact same prayer. Yeah. And it and it has a rose on it. It literally sits right there. And I was just looking at it literally yesterday. I was like, I've had this for so long. It just follows me. That's really cool that you have that, too. That's That's

Anya Matusevichfreaking It was actually the first tattoo I ever got. I was It It was something ever since I heard it, I carried it with me through my entire life. That's beautiful. a little.

Brian AtlasAnd uh are but you're not Christian as I understand it. Half and half. Somewhat half and half. Okay. Yeah. And

Brian Atlasuh hold on one sec. So do you do you believe in God or I do. Okay. Um so related to your only fans

Brian Atlasthen and being involved in sex work. Uh and you do have that tattoo and you do say you're pretty conservative and so forth. Uh, do you think God wants you to

Anya Matusevichdo porn? No. Okay. What do you think Satan wants you to do? Um, I don't think it's necessarily

Anya Matusevichsomething Satan want I mean maybe, but I I think it's going back to what I said before. I think I understand that there's definitely a lot of bad about

Anya Matusevichit. I don't think I'm doing charity work. Um, but I also think that I'm setting my life up in a way where my children are never going to have to worry about, oh, their mom's at a 9 to5,

Anya Matusevichmom can't come to my soccer game, mom can't do this, mom can actually spend time with me and provide me with everything I need. And she's actually going to

Brian Atlasinstill I mean, I know this is rich coming from you, but instill some kind of morals into me. And um yeah, well, I'll respond to that really quickly. Uh thank you, Andrew, for the raid. Crucible crew,

Brian Atlaswelcome, welcome, welcome. By the way, really quick, uh as we're as you guys are joining us, we've lowered the TTS to it's going to now be a $69 TTS. I'm going to let some chats come through in just a moment. $69 TTS. Let's get those

Brian Atlasroasts in. If you want to roast me, you want to roast anybody on the panel. $69 TTS. Um, well, I guess my question is though is you said, "Well, I I understand that Only Fans can be very

Brian Atlaslucrative. You can make a lot of money, but uh it seems like you're going you're you believe in God, but you you don't want to you don't want to take on the uh

Anya Matusevichtitle of Christian. Is that correct?" Yeah. So, I was actually raised Russian Orthodox, which if anybody in the audience knows Russian Orthodoxy, it's the strictest and like most harsh form

Anya Matusevichof Orthodoxy. Um, so I me and my mom both actually left that denomination. And not to speak for my mom, but for

Anya Matusevichmyself, I've been slowly trying to rebuild a relationship with uh with God. Um, and I'm kind of letting that build as a relationship. I don't think I'm um educated enough or practicing enough to

Brian Atlasactually label myself a Christian because I think that actually takes on a big role. Um so yeah, I mean look, I'm Andrew is probably better suited for this conversation than I am. But uh

Brian Atlasthere is a Bible verse that I think he often cites that I find kind of compelling in this case. Again, it's not totally clear if you actually consider yourself a Christian. You say you believe in God. Uh it's Matthew 16:26.

Brian AtlasFor what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? And you said, well, you're doing only fan so that you can amass a significant amount of money that you

Brian Atlasperhaps otherwise wouldn't be. It's for my children. Not that I have children now. But wow. I would sell my soul for my children. You would sell your soul for your children? For my Yeah. For them to have a good life, I would do it. That actually be an interesting conversation

Anya Matusevichfor Andrew. Powerful state. Like would you do I would die if I had children. and I would die for my children. I would sell my soul for my children. You would die for your children. Yeah, sure. But also, this is coming from somebody who doesn't have children yet. So, let's

Brian Atlastake this with a grain of salt. I'm curious what the chat thinks. And I I know there's a lot of uh you know, we have a lot of religious viewers, a lot of Christian viewers. If it meant protecting your ch Well, hold on. Ah,

Brian Atlasyou're kind of sneaking something in there, but if it was the case that in order to save your children, this is a ridiculous hypothetical. In order to somehow save the life of your children, you had to become an oaf trumpet. I know

Brian Atlasthere's a lot of men out there. You men have to become o of manhores, I guess. Would you do it? And would this be in contravention of the Christian faith? Uh but the thing is though is that plenty

Anya Matusevichof people are capable of providing for children absent doing sex work. I agree. Um I think it's a lot harder nowadays. I think that's why you have a big financial crisis going on in the US and a lot of people aren't having children.

Anya MatusevichOur birth rates are significantly declining to the point where we're below replacement rate. Um, and I don't want to contribute to that. I actually want to have children. Um, and you've heard

Anya Matusevichpeople around this table say, hey, like it's impossible to raise children in California. Um, for financial reasons. Um, not you're in Florida, though, right? I I live in Florida. It's

Anya Matusevichcompletely different. Um, also Florida is getting so expensive. Um, but cost of living is still extremely high and the

Anya Matusevichmarket is there. Um, I was already gettingualized all the time my entire life and I thought, hey, I'm if if it's going to

Anya Matusevichhappen anyway, I might as well make a profit out of it and at least set myself up for something in the future. And Andrew said something that was um interesting to me that that we're kind

Anya Matusevichof going in the cycle where we don't understand what's coming next. Um like what the second wave of this is going to be for us. I totally understand. I

Anya Matusevichunderstand that even now and not even I'm less than a year in and there's definitely part of my psyche and part of a mental health aspect of it that's

Anya Matusevichdefinitely hurt and definitely affected. I I already know these effects. I've spoken to other people where I can understand the effects. Um but I'm willing to take on the effects to have a future where my children don't have to

Anya Matusevichworry about those things. But couldn't you have chosen like any other job? Yeah, I could have. But again, the money versus the time spent into it. The time that I can spend with my

SPEAKER_05children. You don't have your children yet. You could become a lawyer and you can make way more money than an only well I sorry I don't know how much money

SPEAKER_05you make, but yeah, you could do that and then you could have your children and then your children would look up to you and you'd still be able to support them. Um, school will be better in the long term. I I'm honestly so against

Anya Matusevichcollege. I don't even want to have the argument about. What about an an electrician? No, I totally agree. But I'm not getting I'm not going to get into how much money I make, but that's

Anya Matusevichwhy I went into this saying I'm either going to go all the way in or I'm going to go all the way. I'm not going to halfass it. Um, what what do the uh We got We got an Orthodox Christian here. What do you think? You got You want to

Pervin/Pearlweigh in? I totally respect your preference and everything and your desire to, you know, make a living for your kids in the future. That's great.

Pervin/PearlMy question is as an immigrant yourself, you know, what would you say first generation? Yeah. Like as Yeah. But like you have like an immigrant background. Um what would you say to all those other

Pervin/Pearlcountries in the world that are less privileged than the United States? What would you say to those families and mothers who are trying to make a living for their kids in terms of what? Like in

Anya MatusevichYeah. How you you're like, "Oh, it's like it's this is the easy way out." Oh, I'm not saying that. Let me clarify that real quick. That's that's not what I'm saying. I'm not advocating this for everybody. I never said that. I will not

Anya Matusevichadvocate. Like I've had many, many, many people come up to me, mostly like girlfriends that I have in my past, people just randomly that I'll meet that know that I do it. I always say I say,

Anya Matusevich"Unless you're willing to know that your brother, your dad, your grandparents, your children, everyone is going to see your unless you know that that's going like you're ready for that to happen, don't

Anya Matusevichdo it. Unless you're ready for everyone to know you as an S worker, like don't do it. This is not and also if you're going to go all the way in this, it's hard work. I'm not saying it's as hard

Anya Matusevichas being a doctor or being a lawyer or anything like that. Please don't get me wrong, but I'm saying there are hours that people don't see in the in the back

Anya Matusevichof it. Like I easily put in 65 to 75 hours of work in every different aspect of it every week. Um so it's definitely hard work. Um it's not the easy way out.

Vanna RoseYeah. And you still have to deal with like the the backlash and all that stuff too. It gets even harder because it's like you have to deal with all that stuff. I would never advocate this for 99% of people that I meet. No. And what

SPEAKER_05I can say a as a mother, right? I understand what you're saying because I did go to school, right? I went to two different schools to get two different educations and I did make decent money.

SPEAKER_05My husband made decent money, but we were still riddled in debt. It was so hard to put the amount of groceries that needed to be put on the table, the bills being paid, and provide the life that we

SPEAKER_05really wanted to provide for our children. Since I've been doing, I get way more quality time with my family. We go on great family vacations together and I I can afford to be like, "Hey

SPEAKER_05guys, guess what? We're going to Hawaii 7 for 7 days in a great location. I'm able I am debtree. all my lifetime of

SPEAKER_05debt is paid off. So, I do understand that and Mhm. I understand, you know, and I understand like you're saying that that this, you know, I don't know if

SPEAKER_05what we're doing is right or not. But I do know that this has provided a lifestyle for my family that even when I went to school and worked my booty off that I could not get to my And

Anya Matusevicheveryone's going to argue that it's we're saying that we can buy things for our children. we can buy vacations. That's not what we're saying. It's it's the time spent. Most par like All right, I'm done listening to the cope. I'm sorry you guys are just rambling on

Brian Atlasabout this. I'll just repeat it one more time, then I'm going to move it on. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? We have some super chats here. Kzac, so

Brian Atlaschair one, no kid wants to know their dad's had times with other dads, just like they don't want to know their moms were spread as wide as the Grand Canyon. How can you wait? Did you hide? It was a

Brian Atlasduplicate. Okay, we should have Well, how can you possibly say say uh you would do this for free and want to have a family in the same breath? Zack, uh thank you for the super chat. Uh just FYI with super chats and Streamlabs

Brian Atlasmessages. They don't get pulled up right away. Uh I think you sent this in at 10:04. It's 10:24. They get batched uh typically at, you know, 30 to 60 minutes. But I saw you sent in a duplicate. It's not that we missed it.

Anya MatusevichWe were just waiting to pull it up. So, thank you, Zach. Do you want to do a quick response to Zach here? Yeah, I don't necessarily know what the second part like has to relate to each other.

Anya MatusevichUm, definitely not been spread as wide as the Grand Canyon, but um I don't I don't understand like why it's hypocritical for me to say that I'll do this for free, but also want to have a

Brian Atlasfamily. I think because he's saying that you're doing it so you can provide for your kids. But at the same time, maybe it's just the cascading downstream consequences of being involved in Only

Brian AtlasFans when it comes to your your own mental health, the desiraability of yourself. Correct. As it relates to men, most men are going to at least look, I'm not saying all men are going to not want

Brian Atlasto date you because you no I agree are or were involved in Only Fans, but it is going to close the door for a certain caliber of men. Some uh and then in addition to that, there's like the

Brian Atlasdownstream ramifications as it relates to your future children. It is going to probably result you are going to have to parse the whole potential bullying thing. That's a factor there, too. So, so what I was going to say is the exact

Anya Matusevichsame thing that I said before, the workload. So, if I would have done it for free, I would not be putting in that same mentality of I'm going to go all the way in or I'm going to go all the way out. If I was doing it for free,

Brian Atlaswhich I said I would, I would not be posting a million times on reals, a million times on Tik Tok, a million times on Magga Ramble. Anna, I've I've seen your numbers. You can retire right now and

Brian Atlasour kids will be pampered. We don't need more money. This is your boyfriend or something? No, I have no clue who this is. Maga Rambe. All right. Uh, you got to pay the tax. He's got to pay the SIM

Brian Atlastax. Sends in another super chat, guys. Go use Streamlabs. Streamlabs.com whatever. Uh, streamlabs.com whatever. I should have given I almost always give priority to Streamlabs, but starving.

SPEAKER_07Uh, thank you for sharing that. Appreciate it. Pasty George donated $100. Yeah. Thank you, Pasty George. Appreciate it. Math proves that men have a much lower body count than women.

Brian Atlasusing available statistics and charts to demonstrate this. Nowadays, it's just a fact that many women sleep around more than men. Thank you, Pacey George. Uh, this came in a while ago. Uh, thank you.

Brian AtlasThat was when we were talking about the whole body count conversation. Homath, great channel. We've had him on the show before. Uh, be sure to check him out. Thank you, Pasty George. We have Dill Pickles. Chef Dill Pickles donated $100.

SPEAKER_07Thank you, man. How many women at the table would marry a man that took another man through his back door? No. Did he Was it just Show of hands. Show of hands. Would you marry a dude?

SPEAKER_05Did Your husband didn't though, right? No. Okay. Just checking. Just checking. I I've slept with by men. I I think it's hot. Okay. That's my opinion.

SPEAKER_07Cool. Cool. I love that for you. Um Okay. Chef Dill Pickles. Chef Dill Pickles donated $100. Thank you, brother. Exbs worker. Among the absolute plethora of men you've invited into

SPEAKER_05yourself, what was the most popular male name? Well, I Who was working at Arby's? That was you. That was me. I wor I was working at Arby's when I was 14. Oh,

Brian Atlasyeah. So, what was the most popular male name for Were there a couple like uh Jacobs or Bartholomew or like like overall name

SPEAKER_05Cornelius or Cornelius? I like that. Can we go with that? Um name I I have no idea. I didn't collect names

SPEAKER_05in front of me be like, "Oh, look it. There's 13 Georgees and 14." Oh my gosh, that's my dog's name. Yeah. No Benjamin. I've never slept with a Benjamin. Um,

SPEAKER_07okay. All right. We have Chaw. Chaw coming in, guys. $69 TTS. Streamlabs.com/ whatever. Share one's arguments are ones we've heard 1,000 times. It makes no sense, though. In the

SPEAKER_07pursuit of money and a traditional family, you're doing the exact thing that damages your chances of getting it. I think it's already really hard to get it, but it's hard out here. It is. It's

Anya Matusevichhard out here. [ __ ] I don't I think it's definitely going to be difficult um just as it would be if I didn't. But I think I offer enough in my personal life to a man that it

Anya Matusevichwould make it worth it. But let's be honest, on a scale of 1 to 10, how crazy are

Anya Matusevichyou? I mean, honestly, I'd probably say a four or five. Four or five? Maybe four. Do you have

Anya Matusevichany diagnosis? No. Mm-m. Nothing. BPD, bipolar. When I was like 12, I had a doctor tell me I had anxiety and depression, but not anymore. No, I

Anya Matusevichdon't care about that stuff. We We've all probably not. Okay. We could ask hundreds of women outside and they'll all say yes. Yeah. I used to take depressants, too. I have ADHD. the

Brian Atlaswomen the women SSRI epidemic with any of your ex-boyfriends. Oh, well, you haven't really any of the guy ex guys you've dealt with, not necessarily boyfriends, would

Anya Matusevichand you might disagree with them. Would any of them Have you ever been called crazy by a guy? Actually, no. And if I called them up right now, they'd be like, I mean, yeah, we had kind of a rough breakup.

Anya MatusevichWe had kind of a rough breakup, but any of them, if they still texted me right now or if I texted them, we wouldn't be like, "Oh, I hate you. I hate you."

Vanna RoseWe're like, "Hey, you okay? Good." Oh my god. What kind of music is that I've heard? All right. Okay.

Brian AtlasLook, I I don't know if it's even appropriate for me to go there. Can I go there? Go wherever you want. I can go wherever I want. Whoa. I'm down on you. All right. relax. That's a little kinky. I noticed and you don't hide it, so I

Brian Atlasfeel like it's kind of fair game. And I'm gonna try to be as polite about it as possible. I was looking at your Instagram. I noticed that

Brian Atlasuh you have markings. Yeah. On your legs. Yes. Is it okay if we talk about this? I don't want to talk about comfortable

Brian Atlaswith it. Go on ahead. Okay. So these were self-inflicted markings? Yes. A lot of them. Yes. Was this associated with an episode of

Anya Matusevichsomething with Yes. with drug use or what? No. Okay. It was one particular incident that happened when I was 12 that was like a family situation. It was

Anya Matusevichit was an accumulation of a few different traumatic incidences. Um, I took it out in that manner and I shouldn't have, but So that was that was

Anya Matusevichlike a limited episode that was not ongoing really. It was just when you were younger. It was ongoing for like a couple months, but it was very minor and

Anya Matusevichthen it was one day where it was just like all most of them. It self harm, not someone else did it. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. Uh, it was like most of them and then I

Anya Matusevichnever did it again after. Were you like did you see a doctor about that or I mean Yeah. Did they give you a diagnosis or um honestly because of all the other

Anya Matusevichtraumatic incidences that were happening that led to that? Um we that was the one that diagnosed me with anxiety and depression. They put me

Anya Matusevichon SSRIs. I was on SSRIs for like a year or two and I realized that they were horrible for development and horrible for me and got off of them and yeah.

Brian AtlasWell, I'm sorry to hear that you went through a difficult experience when you were younger. Um, and I'm glad to hear that uh you over it sounds like you overcame and that was a episode that's in the past. So, uh, wait, we have some

Brian Atlaswe have some other chats coming through. We have Brad here. Big Brad. Uh, wait. Is it? Sorry. Oh my god. Streamlabs. There we go. Brad donated $70. A man

SPEAKER_07will see the value in you as how you conduct yourself. Doing of reduces your value and the man you want will not commit to you. Men care about your past

Brian Atlasas woman care about the man's future. That's Yeah. Very wise. That lost. Yo, Brad, thank you for the message, man. Appreciate it. You have uh Well put,

SPEAKER_07Brad. Well put. Chef Dill Pickles. Chef Dill Pickles donated $69. She's had the meats. Bum bum bum bum. He's talking about the Army. What's her

Vanna Rosename back there? Has an Arby show. Can you like just kind of tilt yourself? Oh, the scary doll. Tilt. I don't know if Oh, she has a R. She's sporting. That's

Brian Atlasmy girl. She has a just like tilt. No. Til No. Tilt that way. Tilt that. Yeah. Boom. She's got [ __ ] Ashley. Her name's Ashley. She

Brian Atlashas an Arby's. She worked at Arby's before she became a whatever podcast. Uh, enjoyer, I guess. Okay, we have Magga Ramble. Thank you for the super chat, man. No taxation without

Brian Atlassimpresentation. Damn, bro. Are you doing on the YouTube app, too? You realize if you say cuz if this is how you tell if it's $99.99

Brian Atlasit means you're using the YouTube app. YouTube takes 30%. Apple takes 30%. Because you're doing it on the probably the YouTube app. They're taking uh $49

Brian Atlasof this. They're taking more than half. Bro, they're taking more than half. She didn't even got this little paper thing on the table. Get that out of here. You didn't

Brian Atlaseven look at it the entire show. Throw that throw that [ __ ] out. Uh, thank you for the super chat. Appreciate it. Maga Maga Ramba Rambi

Brian AtlasBrav guys, you did it so perfectly. $69 TTS. $69 TTS. Get them in. Get them in. Okay. So, uh, as far as the rest of the notes, going back to Anya finishing yours up, you said, uh, you're very

Brian Atlasconservative and you're selective with dating. Two of your exes turned out to be gay and one ended up becoming a trans. Damn. Oh my god, girl. You have been

Anya Matusevichthrough it. You have been through. Yeah, I really do. [ __ ] Um yeah, so the one who transitioned was actually the long like the long long-term relationship

Anya Matusevichone. And to be fair, I um I was not conservative at the time. I was very like lefty. Um so that kind of chalks up

Anya Matusevichto that. But he just recently transitioned. Um, but the two that are

Anya Matusevichgay, they're not out. So, it was instances where one of them I found him on Grinder. Um, I found Wait, wait,

Brian Atlaswait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Excuse me. Why would you Hold on. You went I wasn't on Grinder. I was on his I

Anya Matusevichsaw on his He got a notification that was a grinder notification. Oh, okay. I I thought you That's how you found out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I I we were like in his bedroom and I he gets a

Anya Matusevichnotification. It's a grinder notification. I was like, "Oh, that's strange." Um and then a couple things started adding up and I was like, "Oh, this makes sense." And then the other guy,

Anya Matusevichum, yeah, I'm not re revealing any personal information, but he always want like, you know, sometimes you don't want to have schmecks, so you just kind of talk, you know, whatever. He would want

Anya Matusevichme to talk about other men and particularly men that I knew. And I was like, "Oh, that's odd." Um, I didn't really respect

Anya Matusevichmyself at the time. And then finally got a brain. So during sex? Not not during sex. Like if I didn't want to have sex, but if he wanted to get off and I was just like,

Brian Atlas"Okay, I'll talk you through it." Oh, goodness me. So wait, he it was it was like a JI.

Anya MatusevichYeah. He would want me to fantasize about his about males.

Anya MatusevichAnd then I was like, "Oh, yeah." Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um Okay. Wow. Yeah. And you did it. Uh yeah. And then now one of them you said transitioned. Yes. That

Brian Atlaswas the long-term one. Um I was a lefty then. Okay. You said you're very passionate. Or wait, hold on. Uh skipping that one. You said women rarely go for the good guy, but that the one that's going to be an instant high and

Brian Atlasnot a gradual buildup. We should also return to a more traditional setup for relationships. Yeah. Don't you think a more traditional setup for relationships would include

Brian Atlasyou not posting your butthole on the internet? I agree. Um, you know, a little traditional. I agree. Are there Here, let me ask you. Are there pictures of your butthole on the internet?

Brian AtlasYes. It's very traditional of you. Look at We've got a great conservative here. Where's the MAGA hat? Oh my god. Throw it. I was bring I was going to bring mine, but hell yeah. You said no hat.

SPEAKER_05You vote for Trump. Here you can put it on for a few minutes. You said no hats on the pre. Should we ask Andrew if that's hypocritical? What is if that's hypocritical?

Brian AtlasA traditional relationship, but then No, it's a [ __ ] shitty Chinese one or something. They No, I got a real one. Yeah, we need I need Charlie Kirk to hook me up with some mag. I got one from

Brian AtlasCharlie. Oh, yeah. Did you do one of his TP USA? I didn't go to an event. No, I went up to the microphone and be like, "Hey, Charlie." I would just be like, "I love you." But future, I guess. Um,

Brian Atlasbut I want you to look into this camera right here. This one right here. And I want you to say, "I voted for Donald Trump. Make America Great Again, BTW. I post butthole pictures on the internet.

Brian AtlasI voted for Donald Trump. MAGA. I post bee hole pictures on the internet." All right. Based and submissive housewife. There you go. She She did it at least. I'll take I'll take the hat back. That

Brian Atlaswas great. Thank you. Thank you. Uh let's see here. What um conservative though? Um I Okay, you vote con more conservative, I guess. Okay, so it's not even that I vote conservative. It's

Anya Matusevichlet's literally take just let's let's put o aside for literally two seconds. Um I generally believe that for most women, I think the

Anya Matusevichbest place is to be at home with children. um away from the workplace. I think that um yeah, I I I think that

Brian Atlasthat's kind of the best setup. Mhm. Um Mhm. Shoot. I was losing my train of thought just now. Well, you you were just talking also. We should also return to a more traditional setup. Again, this

Brian Atlasis just confusing for me. You're posting some crazy [ __ ] on your Instagram [ __ ] legs spread and [ __ ] That shit's crazy, son. How are you gonna be like, "Oh, traditional duh," but like,

Anya Matusevich"Hey, boyfriend, can you take a video of me doing like an a heyo face or whatever the fuck?" Well, cuz the the boyfriend is Okay. Okay. Felicity. The boyfriend comes home. He he has his meal cooked

Anya Matusevichalready at 5:00, 6:00. It's warm. It's ready for him there. His his clothes is ready the next morning. It's no problem. The house is clean. Everything's taken care of. He's never going to have to worry about it. But there's like a

Anya Matusevichglaring elephant in the room here. Yeah. a giant dildo in the room. I understand. I You post butthole pictures on the internet. I totally understand. And you know the thing is

Brian Atlaslike Anya, you're you know uh you probably maybe you could have got the guy. You could have got the like the guy who You could have got that. Why am I doing the [ __ ] Trump hands the past few weeks? I've been doing a lot of

Anya MatusevichTrump hands. I I could get it right now if I wanted to. I I know like you're going to get like a get what? I I know that there's men I can I can think of

Anya Matusevichlike a couple men particularly in my hands no in my in my per in my personal life that I know that are very traditional that are okay with my

Anya Matusevichtraditional values and are traditional themselves that are accepting of this that are ready for that life.

Brian AtlasAnyways, I know that I can because I Yeah, faux show. I'm not going to linger on the porn bad thing because we talked about that forever earlier. Uh, okay.

Brian AtlasSo, we have some more chats coming through. We have Oh, wait. Hi, Brazman. Chair 7. Marry me yesterday for Christ's

Brian Atlassake. Only sane woman. Hairy balls on you. Oh, okay. I'm good. Thank you. Ooh, hairy balls on you. Rejected. Realizing.

Brian AtlasOh, by the way, she's got a boyfriend. Bro, you got to you can't be hitting on a girl who's got dating a guy for 3 years. Thank you for saying, you know, that's a nice compliment. You know, our

Brian Atlashome girl here, she's single. What's up? Show her some love. Harry Balls on you. Would you date? Would you go for hairy balls on you? I don't know him or know

Brian Atlaswhat he looks like, so maybe. Maybe. He's clearly Is it Harry? What if his What if he's like the he's the most attractive man in the world, but his

SPEAKER_05balls are also the hairiest? I would go for it. Like I'm talking foot long ball hair dangling dangling to the floor. I think that's a deal breaker. Snip snipers are gone. No, you can't. Oh,

Brian Atlasright. You're not. You know how like when your nails grow really long, like you can't cut that [ __ ] Could I braid it? It's the same with ball hair. That [ __ ] gets too long, it's You got to go under anesthesia. Can I braid it? Get

Brian Atlasthat removed. No. Unacceptable. All right. Why? Uh $69, guys. $69 TTS. Get him in. We have some more. Sons of Liberty. This guy. My god. Thank you.

SPEAKER_07Sons of Liberty donated $69. Thank you, brother. Virtue, morality, boundaries, foreign concepts to these women. The Neuremberg trials concluded the end does

SPEAKER_07not justify the means, but to these women they do. Degenerates. Degenerates. Thank you. So many degenerates at this table. Thank you very much. Very many degenerates. It's just crazy. Thank you,

SPEAKER_05Sons of Liberty. How do you guys feel about Do you guys Do you take ownership of the degenerate title? Chloe, look into you. Um, I don't even I'm going to sound like a dumb blonde, but I don't

Brian Atlasknow what that means. Degenerate. I'm going to Google it. It means like a low life. Having lost the physical, mental, and moral qualities considered normal and desirable.

SPEAKER_05No. or an immoral or corrupt person. I don't think I'm a degenerate. I did that one bad thing with the cheating, but other than that, I'm not a

SPEAKER_05degenerate. I'm definitely not. When's the last time you smoked some crack? Oh god. Oh my god. I'm joking. I've never I've never smoked some crack. I swear in

SPEAKER_05my life. You're a [ __ ] liar. You're a [ __ ] What? Do I look like a crackhead? Is that Scouse, by the way? You're a [ __ ] liar. M I don't know. Yeah. No, that was qu. No, I've never never never ever smoked crack. That's

SPEAKER_05just I don't want that. Can you do the queen's English? Talk like the queen. Yes. Um Oh, it is a bit rather ridiculous that we

SPEAKER_05put a sun dial underneath a tree. I have to admit that's the best I can do. Wow, that was See how far the termites have spread and how long and well they've died. Where are you getting? Rest in

Brian Atlaspeace, Christopher Hitchens. Okay, that was great. We have Thank you, Sons of Liberty. We have We have Pasty George. Boom. Thank you, Pasty George. Pasty George donated $70. Thank you, brother.

SPEAKER_07I've noticed that more and more young women nowadays have old cut scars on their arms, legs, and other parts of their bodies. What is wrong with today's women? I feel like honestly, what So, is

Vanna Roseit about today's women? But it says from the past. It says old cut. So, how can that be today's woman if it's from the past? Oh [ __ ] Pasty George just [ __ ]

Anya MatusevichShe just lawyered your ass. [ __ ] lawyered Pasty George. Actually, I would say that every

Anya Matusevichgeneration of young women has had their vice. So, I would say uh right before my generation, I would say it was EDS. Um,

Anya Matusevichso EDS were the vice of young girls. Um, and you don't really notice those on most women because either they've

Anya Matusevichrecovered or they've other things. Um, but they're not as noticeable of a past. And then I would say

Anya Matusevichselfharming was more of a fad during my era. Um, and it was one of those things where it's like, okay, you it I need to feel better. How do I do it? I feel like

Vanna Rosenowadays like people don't even do that as often. like at least like cuz I have a lot of like little cousins and stuff like that and I feel like at their age like I was doing those things and so the fact that like they're all like no

Vanna Rosethat's like lame like they literally say stuff like that nowadays but before it was kind of like an actual big thing like everybody was doing it it's like a it was like a trend but in a way but like everyone everyone would be a sad

SPEAKER_07girl you know like all that stuff I think donated $69 the young blonde lady in all red is lovely I'm weird weird, so it's easy to

SPEAKER_07not care. Can I know the lady's name? Um, I'm Chloe. Yummy. Thank you. That was really sweet. And I'm Brian Atlas.

SPEAKER_05Vanna Rose. Is your voice actually that high pitched or do you put it on, Chloe? Be honest. Um, be honest, Chloe.

SPEAKER_05Um, I have a really high voice naturally. Like my dad even like sounds like a woman on the phone. Um but I

SPEAKER_05definitely like put it on um a lot and on my Instagram and like for Olaf like I can really do baby but like a lot of guys like that but I know like you love

SPEAKER_05it or hate it. I think it's adorable. I just wanted to know if it was real. Like yeah it is real but I can make it like go really high. Go on. Do do baby voice.

SPEAKER_05God. Come on. Um, hello. Are you shy? Chloe, I'm shy. Hi, Chloe. How are you today?

Vanna RoseWhat the [ __ ] It sounded crazy with the British accent and the baby voice. I was like, wait, do it. Um,

SPEAKER_05Daddy, please. Oh my gosh. Please follow me on Instagram, please. Chloe Yummy X, please follow me. Oh my god. Your your

SPEAKER_05baby voice is sexual. Why did you make it sexual? I don't know. It is a sexual Wait, I have something for this. Wait, listen. I'm so nervous. I'm going to pretend like you didn't just make my

SPEAKER_05dick go soft. What the [ __ ] I'm a child and I don't like you. I tried not to do it. Oh my gosh. Now I'm embarrassed. No, it's my fault. I made you do say no. No, babe. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I'll stop. I'll

Brian Atlasstop. I'll stop. I'll stop. I just I had to hear it. Hey, how you doing here? [Laughter] Proper naughty one.

Brian AtlasWait, what? You having a giggle, mate? O, bro. Pass the tea. Yeah. Sorry. All right. Okay. Okay. Chill out. I'm really sorry. I I apologize. When can we get out of here so I can go and have a

SPEAKER_07point? We have Blest. Clever. Blis donated $70. I keep getting

SPEAKER_05distracted by her TTS. I get it. That's funny cuz he's like a he's doing a TTS. I don't get it. So funny. It was good.

Brian Atlas$69 TTS. Guys, we're going to get back to the convo though. We have one more coming in. Thank you, Blaw Fest. And then Pasties sent one in. There it is. Pasty. Pasty George donated $70. Share

SPEAKER_07for it takes between 12 and 18 months for a wound to form into a scar. Please stop trying to think. Thank you. Yeah, but you you're saying in the past. So

Vanna Roselike in the past like 12 to 18 I haven't done that in 12 to 18 months. That was probably like 7 years ago. God, who the hell cares? 7 years ago is different from 18. Like obviously I hope to God no

Vanna Roseone's or I you know I hope that no one's freaking at my age self harming themselves. Like I feel like that's like you you need to be in a like mental right. Like that's just not okay. Like

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