100 Body Count By 19?! She CHEATED On Fiancé W/ His BEST Friend? ØF Mom/Daughter? | Dating Talk #247

Date: 2025-06-16
Duration: 7h 19m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Crystal (Sociology)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Pervin/Pearl(guest)
SPEAKER_06Felicity Hughes(guest)
SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_13Anya Matusevich(guest)
SPEAKER_14Vanna Rose(guest)

Key Moments

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IntroBrian introduces episode with remote Andrew Wilson

Topics Discussed

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Episode with Andrew Wilson remote

Andrew Wilson joins remotely. Multiple guests.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaswithout further ado, actually with a bit more ado, guys, there's some crazy [ __ ] protests in Santa Barbara. You know, I blame the these protests for our
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Brian Atlasmight happen, might not, but I will get to the drama later on in the show. But like I said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So, please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're
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Anya Matusevichfrom, education. Go ahead. Hi all, my name is Anya. I'm 19. I'm from Florida. And excuse my voice. I was at Six Flags yesterday. Not a 30-year-old smoker. Um,
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Brian Atlasbut I do. Yeah. So, all right. And you said you're from Florida? Yes. From BFE, Florida. So, Okay. Any uh Are you in college right now or? No. No college?
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Anya MatusevichNo. Are you planning to go or just focusing on work? If I do go back, it's going to be to get my diesel mechanics hurt, but
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SPEAKER_05not really planning on it at the moment. No. Okay, got it. What about you? Um, hi, I'm Chloe Yummy and I'm 19 and I'm from Tennessee. All right. Any school or college or
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SPEAKER_05anything like that? Um, I just do Only Fans. All right. What about you? Hi guys, my name is
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SPEAKER_05Annabelle. I am a DJ. I'm originally from London. Um, but I live in Mexico because I just prefer the vibe of DJing
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SPEAKER_05on Rooftops Under the Stars and recently just produced my first track. So, I guess kind of a producer as well. Hoping
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SPEAKER_05to be. Age? 35. Sorry. Most important part. Uh, education. Uh I have a degree in classics and Latin from Nottingham University
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Brian Atlasand that's like through that's uh I don't know what what the is there a different term like do you guys have bachelors and master's degrees or what are they called in I actually you know
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SPEAKER_05what Brian it was so long ago and and I will admit something that a degree in Latin has absolutely no bearing on becoming a DJ so I'm not really sure why I did it but I'm just one of those eccentric types of people that likes to
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SPEAKER_05do lots of and you said it was also Classics. Classics. So, classic literature. So, ancient history, Latin. Very pointless, but I found it very, very interesting. So, Gotcha. And you
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Vanna Rosesaid Nottingham. Nottingham University. University. Okay. That's a good one. What about you? Hi, I'm Vanna Rose. I am 23, just turned 23 in April. I am from Washington. Well, I was born in
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Vanna RoseWashington, raised in Vegas. Um, I do Only Fans, but I do dance. I'm planning on going to fashion school, but we're just working on that right now. Getting Okay. And going back to you really
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SPEAKER_05quick, you said you currently live in Mexico. Yes. Are you an illegal immigrant in Mexico? No, I'm not. Um, so, uh, with with the visas, you can go as long as you leave every six months,
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SPEAKER_05you can come back. And obvious, you know, I I miss London so much. So, I Do you? I do. I really do. You know what? I just miss having a [ __ ] pint in the
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SPEAKER_05pub sometimes. Um, so yeah, and I miss my friends. So I travel a lot. I'm not there just the whole time, but it's my
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Crystal (Sociology)Padel Carman is my base right now. Yeah. What about you? I'm Crystal. I'm 32 years old. I'm from California. Um, I'm just a warehouse worker. 32 years old,
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Crystal (Sociology)you said? Yeah. Any university college? Um, I have my bachelor's in sociology. I'm working towards a master's in psychology.
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Crystal (Sociology)Okay. Bachelor's in so what did you learn in sociology? Basically how society works. Basically macro macro
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Crystal (Sociology)micro level. How does society work? How does society work? I mean you said you learned how society works. How does it work? basically how basic basically how
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Crystal (Sociology)like statistics to certain studies about um society. Um it's just basically broad topics
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Crystal (Sociology)about why we act in certain ways in different situations depends sociology. Yeah. Okay. What what um and you said
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Brian Atlasthat was your major, right? You got your is it it's a bachelor of arts or is there a Oh, bachelor of science. Yeah, sociology is a science. I didn't know
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Brian Atlasthat. Yeah, I thought it was just Okay. Uh so wait, tell me what like what are some classes like is there uh feminist propaganda
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Brian Atlas302? Like what's the name of some of the classes you take if you're studying sociology? It was so long ago to be honest. Um there was gender studies. I know that. How many gender studies
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Brian Atlasclasses? There's one. One class. Yeah. Do you recall the name? Like was it just um I think it was just genders. Gender. Gender studies. What did you learn in gender studies class? Perception.
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Crystal (Sociology)Perception. Yeah. Basically of what? Of gender and and Yeah. What? But like give me like I'm not asking you to go over the entire curriculum, but give me Yeah.
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Brian AtlasI I don't remember everything 2 years ago. Give me three. Wait, it was 2 years ago. Yeah. Oh, that's Wait, hold on. No, 10 years ago. Well, cuz you're 32. So when you But if it was just two or three
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Brian Atlasyears ago, I mean, that's not that far back. Um, give me like three things you learned in your gender studies class. I
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SPEAKER_05I honestly didn't even take it really ser seriously. But isn't a requisite for graduating with a sociology degree? to remember at least three of the modules that you did when you were at this university, right? I I honestly don't.
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Brian AtlasYou don't remember the modules at all? Wait, question. Your final year, uh, your senior year, I guess you could say, uh, what classes did you take under sociology? Um,
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SPEAKER_05I I don't remember. But wait, hold on. Wasn't like two years. Wait, when did you graduate? What year? 2022. Okay. Sounds like even more of a waste
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Brian Atlasof time than my to be honest. Like she's gonna be a DJ also, I guess. Maybe turn it up. Wait, but so hold on. Okay,
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Brian Atlasthe final year of university. I'm not going to ask you to like dig back to like your sophomore, junior year. Give me like three things you learned
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Brian Atlasyour final semester or quarter. Was it a quarter or semester system? Semester. Okay. final semester, three things you learned. Um,
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Crystal (Sociology)recidiv recidiv Oh my god.
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Crystal (Sociology)Rec recidivism and like um re-entry um to society when people go to jail.
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Crystal (Sociology)That that was a a course. It it was a course. Yeah. Um,
00:11:29
Brian Atlasgender studies. I mean, yeah, but what did you learn about what did you learn about that? What did you learn about gender studies? Wait, what's the name? Was it a is in California? Yeah. Which
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SPEAKER_05school did you go to? San Bernardino. Cal San Bernardino. Cal State San Bernardino. Okay. Mhm. Is that a good university, Brian? I don't know. Okay. Sorry. I don't think it's a bad one. doesn't sound like one considering she
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Brian Atlasdoesn't remember anything. I mean, the Cal State system is I mean, I don't want to be uncharitable. The Cal State system is good. I mean, it's not an Ivy League school, but Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah.
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Brian AtlasBut can I get three things you learned your final semester? Just three like specifics. Just I got to stop talking. You just answer the qu
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SPEAKER_05three things you learned. It's like three they just hold on everybody going to go to this university ever again after this podcast goes live three three things just three things you learned
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Crystal (Sociology)your final year of school final semester um different ages are that are um more
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Crystal (Sociology)likely to be incarcerated um what's another one qualitative qualitative and quantitative um sorry don't look at
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Crystal (Sociology)Go ahead. Sorry. Disregard my qualitative and quantitive data and um stat statistics surrounding um different
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Crystal (Sociology)uh surveys when you survey people. So, this is an ad for trade schools. [Laughter] You know not what school not to go to.
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SPEAKER_05Did you pay for this university? I don't really understand history. Oh, that's why I went. There we go. degree. Yeah. I mean, you pay something to go to like you're you're in school or
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SPEAKER_05instate student, right? Yeah. I mean, you pay something. You get free university in America. I thought it was But I didn't have to pay. Well, who
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Brian Atlaspaid? Your parents or No. Um, your I had um You probably paid them. I'm joking. Taxpayers. No, somebody's paying. Somebody's paying. Someone's got the money. Where's the guy?
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Brian AtlasI feel like you could have just like today you could have just asked chat GPT tell me about sociology and that would have been but you're asking different
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SPEAKER_05topics that was 3 years ago. You don't know any topics darling. Huh? You don't know any of topics that you studied. So long ago. What are three things you learned in Latin? So two years ago I
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SPEAKER_05went to Nottingham University like Nottingham University 13 years ago and I can still remember at least three modules. Oh wait. Yeah. Okay. Go for it. The fall of the Roman Empire. Um I
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SPEAKER_05learned Latin. I know it's a dead language. Kind of speak it. I said it's a dead language so you can't speak it but Kilius SN40. There we go. What is
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SPEAKER_05Veni Vidivichi? Don't recognize me. That's Latin right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like what I'm my my point being darling and no I disrespect is that you know I went to
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SPEAKER_05university 13 years ago and I can still remember a little bit and I have ADHD and I have a lot of trauma so my brain is really she does have a lot of trauma. I traumatized her before you were on the
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SPEAKER_05show. Don't worry I won't bring it up. Why would they teach a dead language if it's a dead language? I mean that's what I ask myself every day darling. It was a waste of money and it was wast like if I'm going to learn a language it's going to be like well educate
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SPEAKER_05what what did you learn to use just to be fair um so it helps cuz I speak Spanish and I speak French and a lot of the derivatives of these languages are from Latin. So I mean you know you know
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SPEAKER_05there's something there and at least I remember something darling unlike you. Okay. Did you want to go to school? I just did
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Crystal (Sociology)it cuz I was bored. just just to have it on my record. Huh? Oh, we got Desert Joe here. Hold on. We'll we'll finish up with the intros in
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SPEAKER_07just a sec. $200. Thank you, man. Happy Father's Day to the fellow dads. Keeping it real. Happy Father's Day for the Discord channel. Happy Father's Day.
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SPEAKER_07Who hurt you? Drink up, mates. Lol. I'm breaking in my new Crucible 100k tumbler glass with Irish whiskey. Oh, yo, Desert Joe, good to see you, man. Thank you for
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Brian Atlasthe uh big $200 TTS, by the way. Thank you for I saw you leave some positive comments with the whole like dispute drama thing. So, I appreciate your support, Desert Joe. You're a legend. Thank you, dude. I could use a shot of
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Brian AtlasJameson right now. I'm here with you, buddy. I think that's for the people watching in the Discord. So, they're they're they're drinking. Um, do you speak uh
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Brian Atlasyour accent? Is it RP? I don't know what that means, Brian. received pronunciation. I I just grew up in central London, so there's Wait, you don't know? But you know the different like British accents.
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SPEAKER_05Oh, right. So there's like I don't want to There's like what like received pronunciation is like what the So like there's workingass, middle class, and upper class. I guess I don't really know
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SPEAKER_05how to describe it. It's if you heard my father's accent, he you's almost incoherable. His feet is like really it's really lovely to see you today.
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SPEAKER_05Like Literally like shameless like the British version shameless. He he that's that's literally like how he was that's how he's brought up. Wait, do we have any do we have any
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Brian AtlasBritish people in the chat chat? What is her is she is she uh speaking RP received pronunciation. Is she There's like a a level like that's like old
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SPEAKER_05school BBC presenter. I actually was a presenter. No, not that the British. I actually was a presenter for a while. Yeah, it's a TV. You're so clever,
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SPEAKER_05Brian. Um, yeah. No, it's it's it's it's Notting Hill, Chelsea, Nightsbridge vibes. I don't know if any of you know London, but lovely. It is rather lovely. That's fantastic. I actually tone down
00:17:43
Vanna Rosemy accent because sometimes I feel like people judge me and think, "No, turn it up." I must insist you turn it up. I really I always talk in a British accent. Like, I literally I told her, I was like, "Don't get offended if I accidentally talk
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Brian AtlasBritish accent." I love it. Going back to this though. Okay.
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Brian Atlas[Laughter] Two things you learned. I I said like three, right? I said no, but break that [ __ ] down. You got a bachelor's of art
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Crystal (Sociology)of of science. Break that [ __ ] down for me. Which topic? Gender studies. Gender studies. Basically, uh, gender
00:18:25
Brian Atlasis, um, what you perceive at what you are. Uh, sex is male or female, but chat GPT could to Well, hold on. Chat GPT
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Brian Atlaswould Okay, hold on. That wasn't a bad GPT could answer anything. That's true. That's true. But give me like give me some nuance or give me some some meat. Give me substance.
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Vanna RoseNo substances here. What is a woman? Can you answer what is a woman? Someone who has XX chromosomes. So, some like gender and sex is
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Vanna Rosedifferent. Did you need to go to university to learn that, babe? No. Okay. Okay. Oh, do we have Andrew? I wasn't sure. Wait, is he ready? Is he Oh, okay. Well,
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Brian Atlasyeah, we're we're going to have Andrew join. Sorry. Sorry, Andrew. You got uh sidetracked. We we'll get you called up in just a bit. Or Mary, do you know how to do it? I do not. Okay, I'll I'll come back in just a sec. Andrew, if you're watching, we're going to get you uh
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SPEAKER_05we'll get you in just a sec. Let me just get the uh intros. Uh okay. What about you? Hi, I am Well, most people know me as Mama Blonde Bombshell, or you can
00:19:38
SPEAKER_05call me Mama Bombshell, Mama B. Um I'm 44 years old. Uh I'm from all over the West Coast, currently residing here in
00:19:47
SPEAKER_05Los Angeles. And um I am a social media personality. I also do only fans and before that I was a licensed esthetician and certified makeup artists working in
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SPEAKER_05the beauty industry for the last 15 years. Got it. Okay. And uh you you are related. This is my daughter. That's my
00:20:08
Vanna Rosemom. That's cute guys. You guys mother daughter. Uh and wait question. So uh hold on. Wait. No worries. And you guys both do Only Fans. I actually do
00:20:20
Vanna Rosetogether. I actually No, we would never do that. We do like Safe for Work social media together, but not. So, basically what happened was I was telling her I was like, "You're hot, mom. Like, you should like do something with that."
00:20:32
Vanna RoseBecause it was there's a bunch of stuff that happened with her job and I was trying to hype her up and then she really hopped on it and she just like blew up on Instagram like all of a sudden like she just got like she's at like 400K already on there. And so
00:20:44
Vanna Rosebecause she was doing I was dancing and then because of that like I seen how much she was doing like good on there and I was like okay well I might as well try it doing it because I danced already. So it was like better cuz I wasn't like actually in front of everybody all the time, you know, or
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Vanna Roselike it wasn't always like I have to drive far and it was it was just a lot easier and a little bit more comfortable to be able to do and I got to travel and like do more things like that. So Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. And so like Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05So you helped your mom out. Yeah. Yeah. She encouraged me. She's like, "Mom, you're hot. Have you ever thought about doing Only Fans?" And at first I was like, "No, no, no, no." And then she was like, "Mom." And I had other people in my life that were really like, "Hey,
00:21:22
SPEAKER_05have you ever thought about doing Only Fans?" And I was like, "I look, you're looking [ __ ] hot for your age, girl. I get it. Over 81,000 people think the
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Vanna Rosesame." And I was just like, 81,000. Wow. And so my ego would be But no, it's it's really nice. It's really nice to be able to like travel with her and it's like a comfort thing because you know sometimes when you go to like collab
00:21:45
Vanna Rosehouses or places like this like you don't really know anyone. You don't know how they're going to be. So it's so it's like basically a content house. So you go and everybody goes and you like guys I make content reals like o content
00:21:56
Vanna Rosewhatever Tik Toks YouTube things like that. And then so it's nice to be able to have her with me so that cuz there's been some incidents where there's been some things like foul stuff that's happened at those houses that you know
00:22:09
Vanna Roseif I was alone that I wouldn't really feel safe. But because I had my mom there like she was there to be like to teach the rules and this place and we wear the same clothes. So I take all of
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SPEAKER_05her clothes. A cl a clap house. So it's collab a collab collab. It's basically like a bunch of influencers or only fans girls and they all get together and
00:22:30
SPEAKER_05we're trying to call you make Instagrams, Tik Toks, that kind sounds kind of fun. It is super fun. I couldn't do it, but it sounds pretty fun. Yeah,
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SPEAKER_05sometimes a lot of people think that I got her in and they're like, "You're such a bad influence." And I'm like, "It's the influenced money." Like I was like, "You know what? Why not?" like give me your money.
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SPEAKER_05It's It's been a nice experience. I literally want my mom to do it, too, because my mom is so pretty, too. Um but she doesn't want to like She like
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SPEAKER_05supports me, though. Um I love that. She um is a model. Like she modeled for Elite Management and Oh, that's awesome. Um she's so gorgeous. Like I love your guys dynamics. Thank you. Yeah. You
00:23:19
Vanna Roseknow, honestly, I always think it's better for your parents to be there to support you because at the end of the day, like you're going to make the decision you make anyway. So, I feel like for example, like growing up, you know, it's like if you're going to do something like as a kid, like you might
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Vanna Roseas well be safe at home doing it or like things like that, you know, like people that are going to go out and drink, like if you're going to drink and stuff like that at a young age, you might as well have like actual protection and things like that. So, I think openly and then at the end of the day, it's like people
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Vanna Rosedon't even want to do it. Like what? like uh there's a place in Amsterdam where all the all the drugs are legal, but no one even does drugs because it's so accessible. So, it's like if someone's there to like tell you like, you know, like you could do these things or whatever and support you. A lot of
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Vanna Rosetimes people won't even want to do that or you feel safer doing it or like comfortable and you don't have to go and lie, that's when a lot of times people get like in trouble is because they're like lying to their parents and trying to hide things and then that's when
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SPEAKER_05things go bad. Not to mention so many parents would be really judgmental about it and like I've heard stories of only fans girls being like disowned by their parents. So it's so like nice that
00:24:21
Vanna Rosethere's just like complete juxosition and that's Can I ask a question about it? Yeah, go ahead. Okay. So you said you started doing O first. Well, no, she started. So I basically told her that she should be like doing like Instagram
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Anya Matusevichand stuff like that. Encouraged me and then so she blew up and then I started. Yeah. So in like a mother daughter dynamic like that whether it's the mother or the daughter first got to
00:24:45
Anya Matusevichclick on there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that happens to you as even if you don't do if you just do influencing um would you want your
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Anya Matusevichparent or your daughter to go through that like for example stalkers um like the immense amount of hate all that other kind of stuff like I I would my don't get me wrong mom if you're
00:25:06
Anya Matusevichwatching you are your bombshell. But I would never want my mom to go through it because of the things that I've gone through just knowing how little I've been here. But if you think about it, like no matter what you do, like there's
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Vanna Rosegoing to be something and an issue with anything. Like even like for example, if we were don't do Only Fans, like I walk down the street and people harass and stalk anyways. So it's like at the end of the day, might as well make money off something that somebody's trying to that's they're going to just react that
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Vanna Roseway anyways. We would literally go on the beach and people would try to take pictures with us and like get in a line like a line of people taking pictures with us like you know what I mean and then there's people that harass like for no reason and that was before we ever even did the only fans. So to be honest
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Vanna Rosewith you I already kind of dealt with that always. So for me it was like I'm already going to deal with it anyway. So it's not really anything that's going to change it except for now I'm going to actually get something from that. I see what you're saying, but then like you know there are a lot of beautiful women
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SPEAKER_05in the world like every single woman around this table is gorgeous and just because you are beautiful you might get wolf whistled in the street doesn't mean that you need to feel the need to monetize it you know. Yeah. But it was
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SPEAKER_05just something that I was going to do anyway. So it was like well and not only that even if you are a social media personality and you're not doing only fans you are opening yourself to the
00:26:23
SPEAKER_05haters out there everyone knows what's going to happen if you do only fans are not if I am presenting I even before I started Only Fans I did um
00:26:33
SPEAKER_05makeup and skincare reals and Tik Toks and went live and I got just as much hate educating women about cosmetics and skin care that sometimes even more than
00:26:46
Vanna Rosewhat I do now for what I do base like what you're going to do off of what other people's actions are. Yeah, I I 10,000% agree. But can I ask you a question? by being whatever beauty influencer or whatever you said you
00:26:58
SPEAKER_05were. The difference between that and being, you know, in the only fans kind of world, I think that you're not going to get as much hate if you're teaching a girl how to
00:27:10
Anya Matusevichapply her massage. Someone's going to send you your address in your DMs the night that you land in your Airbnb. What was that? Some No one's going to send you the address of your Airbnb in your Instagram DMs if you're just posting
00:27:24
Brian Atlasmakeup. You know what I mean? Well, you never know that. Some people will. Like, it depends on what the type of who the person is. Moving on. Uh, so uh when did
00:27:31
SPEAKER_05you have her? Um, I had her in 2002. So, when I was uh 21. 21. Got it. Okay. Is uh dad still in the picture or? Yeah, I've been married for 24 years. You guys
00:27:44
Pervin/PearlYou guys are married. Okay. Got it. What about you? Yeah, my name is Pervin. and my friends usually friends or co-workers usually
00:27:53
Pervin/Pearlcall me Pearl just so it's easier. I'm 25 from San Diego. I'm an administrative assistant and I have a bachelor's degree in architecture.
00:28:04
Brian AtlasOkay, welcome. My name is Felicity. I'm 19 from Santa Barbara and I'm going to school for business. All right. And then going around the table, uh what's everybody's relationship status? If you're single, how long have you been
00:28:18
Anya Matusevichsingle? And what's the longest relationship you've been in starting with you? Um, single for a while now. I'd probably say like 3 4 years maybe. Um, longest relationship was I think 2
00:28:31
Anya Matusevichand 1/2 years. How old were you when you So you were like 16 17. Yeah. So I guess you can't really call it like a serious relationship, but yeah. Okay. Uh, the
00:28:42
Brian Atlas2-year relationship, who broke up with who? I broke up with him. Got it. Okay. Not on the most pleasant terms either. All right. And there's no guys in the You've been single three to four years,
00:28:55
Anya Matusevichyou say? Uh, are there currently any guys in the picture? I don't carry a roster. Um, yeah. No. Um, there's guys I find attractive that I think are cute,
00:29:05
Anya Matusevichbut I just don't think I'm in a time in my life where I I scale my life on priorities. Um, I think it's Andrew that
00:29:14
Anya Matusevichtalks about the um, what is it? the priority hierarchy or whichever it is where you have a hierarchy of what your
00:29:24
Anya Matusevichpriorities are and for me right now that's work and saving up for my future and I can't really focus on a relationship at the same time and give
00:29:35
Anya Matusevichboth of those 100%. Do you do VG content? Yes. Okay. What the guy you shoot with does are you guys dating or No, it's strictly business. It's strictly business and it's one person.
00:29:46
Anya MatusevichIt's just somebody that I've trusted for a really long time and that I know is what BT content boy boy girl boy girl on boy girl on fans. Yeah, that means you
00:29:58
Vanna Roseshoot uh scenes with a guy with another person. Yeah. And like solo would be you're just doing solo content and then girl girl like or Gigi whatever you know. I'm so oblivious. Okay. All right.
00:30:10
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's all good. Uh what about you Chloe? Um what's the question? relationship status. Oh, okay. Um, I'm single
00:30:22
SPEAKER_05and what's the more How long How long have you been single? Um, pretty recently, like um I would say like a
00:30:31
Brian Atlasmonth now. Yeah. Is that just your voice or were you about to cry? I'm sorry. Can you tell? It sounded Okay. You've been single for
00:30:43
Brian Atlasone month. So, last time you were on the show, you were in Were you in a relationship? Yeah, I was in a relationship. Yeah. Okay. Longest relationship? Um, three years like during high school? Years. What about
00:30:55
SPEAKER_05you? So, I'm a bit of a serial monogamist. Um, so I haven't had many boyfriends, but Well, wouldn't that mean you've had many
00:31:06
SPEAKER_05boyfriends? Well, but they're quite longterm ones. Oh, sure. So, yeah. Um, so my longest relationship was six years. Um, and I've been single now for three months because
00:31:18
Brian Atlasum, I was like really savagely uh, cheated on. Um, yeah. So, still stings a bit, but uh, the three the one that ended 3 months ago, how long was that
00:31:30
Brian Atlasrelationship? It was only about four months before I realized that he had another girlfriend. Okay. In another country. So in in order of the length of your relationships, so give me like six
00:31:41
SPEAKER_05years and then what was the next longest? Um since that I haven't had like a really problem. No, just like you've had a six-year relationship. A I've had three I've had I've I've had
00:31:52
SPEAKER_05about uh three like three year relationships. Okay. One two year maybe and then the sixyear one. Gotcha. So three three year I Yeah. Okay. The six-y
00:32:04
SPEAKER_05year relationship. Who broke up with who? I broke up with him, but still I miss him. And it's You broke up with him? Okay. Yeah. The the first three-year relationship, who
00:32:14
Brian Atlasbroke up with who? Um, it was me. The other third-year relationship, who broke up with who? It was me. The final thirdyear relationship, who broke up with who?
00:32:26
Brian AtlasHim. He broke up with you. Okay. All right. And you've been single for three months. Have you had a rebound? No. No. I'm not really like that. Okay. Yeah, sure. Are there any guys in the picture
00:32:38
SPEAKER_05currently? No. I'm sorry. I've got no juicy gossip vibrating. Chloe, any guys in the picture currently? Um, just like
00:32:48
SPEAKER_05the guys that I shoot boy girl content with and like guys I shoot like Tik Toks with too. Wait, the guys you shoot Tik Toks with too? Yeah. That's not a
00:33:00
SPEAKER_05relationship. Well, isn't that like that's a Well, I still have to like hang out with them to make videos. She's so cute. Wait, so hold on. Um, that's Are
00:33:10
Brian Atlasthere any notable Tik Tok people you've had carnal knowledge with? Are you shagging your Tik Tok friends? Um, well, she is. We know she is. I'm just curious
00:33:21
SPEAKER_05who if there's any like Young Gravy. Young Young Gravy. Is that a rapper? No, he's Yeah, he's kind of a rapper, but very good. Isn't he dating? Isn't he
00:33:33
SPEAKER_05dating what's her name? You guys don't know who Young Gravy is. He's young. I do Tik Toks and reals sound all the time. I met him in Vegas.
00:33:45
Brian AtlasClarify that he is not very good. Wait, was that before they were dating or after? Wait, guys. Guys, guys, one one at a time, please. One at a time. Go ahead.
00:33:54
SPEAKER_05What? I love it. I mean, okay. So, you were Are you still seeing him or No. Um, I mean, he texted me last night, but like I thought he had
00:34:05
SPEAKER_05a girlfriend. He's with um this Tik Tocker um Arians girl. I've heard of her actually. That is actually crazy. They're like really
00:34:16
Brian Atlasblowing up on Instagram and Tik Tok like right now. Like crazy. So, are you like the you're the side piece is basically the side piece? I guess I am. Well, I mean, it's okay.
00:34:28
SPEAKER_05You're fine with I mean, I wouldn't date him. Like, she's getting the money, I guess, if he's good at what he does. But I I like him, but I wouldn't like be I don't want to be his girlfriend like
00:34:39
Pervin/PearlOkay. You know, Ari's his girlfriend. So, I see. Of course, he's a colleague. You do only fans, so you would be okay being a side piece. So, that's how it
00:34:49
Brian Atlasseems like it. I mean, like I sure. Yeah. Okay. So you're you're dating him. He's a side piece. It's I mean it sounds like it. It sounds
00:35:00
SPEAKER_05like it. Exactly. Wait, so are you okay with it being open knowledge that you're the side piece? When's the last time you saw him? Well, I I mean he texted me. He was texting me
00:35:10
SPEAKER_05last night. Um I saw him maybe like a month ago. I like went to his house because sometimes I like I fly to LA to
00:35:20
Brian Atlaslike um film videos and like collabs and stuff and like I stayed at his house. Wait, hold on. In your pre-show notes here, you said you want to talk about how you and Young Gravy used to be a
00:35:32
Brian Atlasthing, but he never would post you because it was bad for his image to have a Only Fans girl on his social media. But now he posts Ari. Is she an Only Fans girl? Yes, she is. She's a huge
00:35:43
SPEAKER_05Only Fans girl. like maybe one of the top she's overweight or she's stunning. She's like super big. Like she's I watch her because of her makeup tutorials.
00:35:52
SPEAKER_05Yeah, she's Oh, big in that way. Okay. She has a lot of like girl fans too and guy fans like she's Okay. Yeah. Are you
00:36:02
SPEAKER_05guys beefing? Um I mean maybe now because I've never like no one knows about this but I mean I still like her but I mean she probably like me. But but hold on. You said you said you're
00:36:14
Brian Atlassingle, but then in your notes, like from last night, you said you want to talk about how your new boyfriend pretends to be your brother. What? For Only Fans in Instagram for
00:36:25
SPEAKER_05views. Well, okay. He is not like my boyfriend. He's just one of the guys that like I do. He's a boyfriend. Do one of the guys you do. He's a friend boy.
00:36:35
SPEAKER_05Yeah. He's a performer. How many How many friends do you do? Um, I don't want to say how many how many do you have on the roster? Um,
00:36:47
SPEAKER_05okay. Well, basically it's really just him, but I make him like dye his hair to be different people and or I'll make him like wear a mask like what the [ __ ] He
00:36:59
SPEAKER_05just dyed his You said that. I love that. He just dyed his hair blonde so we could do like, you know, sibling content on Tik Tok and Instagram. And I
00:37:11
SPEAKER_05really It was going viral and like people Stop it. Get some help. Is this like So wait, is it Are you Sorry. Is this pretend incest? Like it's or have I
00:37:23
SPEAKER_05got completely wrong? I just was thinking in my brain like how to go viral. And I know it's like not the best, but like I don't have a brother or a sister. I'm an only child. So I just
00:37:35
Vanna RoseYeah. So for you it was like it wasn't like Yeah. Cuz like for me I have a brother. So for me I wouldn't be able to do that. But if you're an only child like I see like it's like I'm an only child and I and it's not really actually that. So if people think that then it's
00:37:47
SPEAKER_05like that's on them honestly. Especially if you don't have like you know so it was believable. a lot of people believed it and we did this like video that um it was like a sibling song and then at the
00:37:58
SPEAKER_05end we like he kissed me and it went really viral. So yeah. Wow. So wait, when you send out the videos, do you
00:38:08
SPEAKER_05label them brother sister? Um I know the one I saw had sound. It had like a sound on O. Do you do that? Cuz
00:38:18
SPEAKER_09that's insane if you do cuz that's against to I there's no way you say like step. Anna's going to snitch. I don't know. Oh, I'm not snitching. I'm not snitching. I'm just trying to get to the
00:38:28
SPEAKER_05bottom. Like honestly, I don't think so. I don't think I call him my brother on Only Fans, but people recognize him from that video. You know what I mean? I love it. That's great. That's I love that for
00:38:39
Vanna Roseyou. Um so anyways, uh here moving on to you. Relationship status. Um I'm single. I've been single for like 3 years. Um, my longest relationship I would say was about like 3 years, too. It was the
00:38:52
Vanna Roseperson that I lost my VC card to when I was younger. We were together for like 3 years and then that happened and then we ended up breaking up. How old were you when you guys broke up? Um, I was like 15.
00:39:03
Vanna RoseSo, wait, no. Yeah, I I Yeah, I was 15. Yeah. 16? No, I was 15. I was 15. Cuz we didn't move to Cali until I was 16. I
00:39:14
Vanna Rosemove when we moved to California, I was 16 years old. So, I was like 13 when I was with him. Okay. How old was he? He was the same age as me. We went to school together. The cutest couple.
00:39:25
Vanna RoseYeah. We got the Queen King shirts in school. Who broke up with who? Um, I honestly broke up with him cuz he tried to ask my best friend to prom or something like that. It was really weird. I think he was just trying to get cuz he was like really controlling. So,
00:39:38
Vanna Rosehe would be like, "You can't wear your nails." Cuz he's Mormon. So, he'd be like, "You can't wear your nails. You can't have belly piercings. You can't drink tea." And stuff. And I kind of got over it. And then so to get at me, he like tried to get at my best friend and
00:39:50
Vanna Rosethat didn't last long. I was like I literally was like I'm done with you. And then we just kind of broke up and we recently actually connected like 2 years ago and I found out he's like making music and he has like really long hair
00:40:02
Vanna Rosenow. And I was like this is super weird. Did uh lives in Vegas and stuff like did did he actually hook up with your best friend? No, thankfully. But if he did you like [ __ ] it, I guess. But he's got
00:40:14
Vanna Roselong hair now, so who cares anyway? But he did try. She told me about it. I was It was really confusing to me cuz I was like, "Why would you be trying to control me and then you're like trying to hook up with my best friend?" But any
00:40:26
Vanna Roseguys will be guys. Any guys in the picture currently? Um, no, not right now. Just working my way up, trying to focus on me. I feel like I'm always focusing on other people that I've haven't put in the time for me. So like
00:40:38
Crystal (Sociology)this is my time now to focus on me. What about you? Thank you. Uh, I'm single. I've been single for a couple months. Um, longest relationship is about 3 years. Who broke up with who in the three-year relationship? I broke broke
00:40:51
SPEAKER_05up with him. And the most recent one, how long was that one? That was a couple months, probably like eight months. Who broke up with who? I broke up with him. All right. Uh, what about you? Relationship status? Uh, I'm married.
00:41:02
SPEAKER_05Longest rel relationship, 24 years. Your current one, I'm assuming. Yes. All right. How long? Uh, you've been married for how long? 24 years. Oh. Uh, together
00:41:13
SPEAKER_05how long? 24 years. Oh, so you guys got married pretty quick then? Yeah, we knew each other 6 months from the day that we met to the day we walked down the aisle. Got it. Yeah, my brother's like one year
00:41:25
Vanna Roseolder than me. So, it was like back to back. So, my son's 24. So, yeah. Married 24. 1 plus 1 equals two. How about you? I'm in a relationship for three years.
00:41:37
Felicity HughesAll right. Is that your longest relationship? I would say. Yeah. Okay. All right. Felicity, what about you? Single for three weeks. Longest relationship was like almost two years.
00:41:49
Brian AtlasAll right. Rock and roll. That's everybody's um I know Andrew probably wanted to uh he heard some some things there earlier on in the conversation. Maybe you wanted
00:42:00
Andrew Wilsonto jump in on Andrew or uh first of all to let's see what do we got here. Chair 7. Did you say that your
00:42:09
Pervin/Pearlname is Pervert? No, my name is Pervin. It's not Yeah, perv. It's actually No, it's actually pronounced Pin. But in
00:42:19
Pervin/PearlAmerica, they pronounce it like that. That's why usually people like you. They, you know, notice that or they'll make that sort of remark. So, I just go by Pearl. What do you mean like you?
00:42:32
Pervin/PearlPeople like you, Andrew. What do you mean people like you? people like Andrew make a comment like that. So is that is that a racial he's projecting? No, it's what do you have against white people?
00:42:43
Pervin/PearlNo, nothing against Andrew. I think he's very intelligent by any way. It's just people who haven't heard of it. They're like, is it like Greek or what is Yeah, it is. Oh [ __ ] I guess I just guessed
00:42:54
Pervin/Pearlthat [ __ ] The thing about it is um different countries have like different ways of writing it, pronouncing it. And in like Greek or in Turkish, it's pronounced paran, but in America they
00:43:05
Pervin/Pearlpronounce like that, which is the reason why you would assume that. Nice. I knew that was going to be the first thing coming on to here. That's crazy. I mean,
00:43:15
Andrew Wilsoncome on. It's objectively hilarious. No, I know. That's why I'm not surprised. I'm not even mad. So, here I'll show you. I'll show you how funny it is. So, take take chair three. You're British, right?
00:43:27
SPEAKER_05Me? Oh, no. We have a bird in the Oh my gosh. How did he get in here? Andrew, there was a really scary bug in here and I didn't like it. It's a hummingbird. We've had this before. How does he get
00:43:38
SPEAKER_05in? Okay. At first, I thought it was a feather. Here, Mary, open the doors all the way. I'm sorry. Hold on, guys. Hold on. Hold on. It's okay. Relax. E. Crack the door open all the way. It's going to
00:43:51
SPEAKER_05be a little distracting. Is it a bug or is it a bug? Okay, that's okay. It might be so hard to get out. It's a bird. Can I Can I I go we I just don't want him to hurt anymore. There's nothing to deal with,
00:44:02
Brian Atlasbut go ahead. You can see it's a bird. It's definitely not a bug. Just sound. Yeah. Yeah. Go. No. No. No. No. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. God damn. He's almost there. He's working his way
00:44:14
Brian Atlasover. It's okay. I like little bird. He's probably so scared. Oh my god. Just guys, it's going to be a little distracting. It'll fly out the doors. Just try to ignore it. It's not a big
00:44:25
Pervin/Pearldeal. All right. So anyways, it's gonna [ __ ] on the table. On my head. Where did it go? It's just sitting there. It's kicking it. It took us [ __ ] three hours last time to get
00:44:38
Brian Atlasit out. It was probably the same bird. Imagine he's like, I know my way out. It ended up dying. But that's Oh god. Conversation. Oh my god. Probably like it was inhaling all the women's perfume and just Yeah, it was us. We were the We
00:44:50
Brian Atlaswere the Andrew, it seemed like you maybe might have had something for uh chair five. What chair number am I? Chair six for
00:45:00
Brian AtlasCrystal. Got it. Uh she's the sociology uh major going to get her master's degree in psychology. Did you have something for her or did I Maybe I got that wrong.
00:45:12
Andrew WilsonHe was still stuck on my name. Oh, we can't Andrew can't hear you. A mic check. Oh, I said not not right now. I haven't uh I haven't heard enough to uh dive in on anything yet. I'm just kind of Okay, cool. Cool. Figuring out the
00:45:25
Brian Atlasbackgrounds and the world views and all that stuff. Sure. We're in the getting to know you phase, right? Yeah. We have a message from Chaw. Hey, Brian. Just wanted to drop a little donation to the charity event you're running right now. It's not often people are willing to
00:45:37
Brian Atlastake out a day of their time to babysit the differentlyabled. Yes, it is true. I am um I am a uh this
00:45:46
Brian Atlasis a licensed daycare facility for for only fans. I love to be babysat. This is you know last show this is quite the uh quite a difference from our last show
00:45:58
Brian Atlasbecause last show we had no only fans girls and then this show we have one two three four on the panel. So like half the panel does does o
00:46:08
Pervin/Pearlswitch. Fourth one. What's that? Who's the fourth one? Oh, uh, one, two, three, four. Yeah, unless Crystal or Per. No, I
00:46:19
Pervin/Pearldon't. You only found I have morals. Going to [ __ ] bad. I feel like it really just depends on what your morals are on anything. I'm not Well, everyone
00:46:30
Vanna Rosehas different morals. I don't know if you're aware of that. I can hear you. I just think it's very correct morals and some of us don't. Yeah. Well, it just depends. Like some people just have different morals and that's just how it
00:46:42
Pervin/Pearlis. You think it's morally okay to pop your [ __ ] on? I do. But that's your opinion and what you believe in and I don't live my life off of other people's
00:46:52
Vanna Roseopinions. So but what are your guys person and I treat people with respect and if I choose to do what I want to do with my body then that's myself. But I'm not a [ __ ] or anything like that. So that's at least my morals. So basically
00:47:04
Pervin/Pearlhow you treat people. No one thought that you were a [ __ ] Yeah, you are being I'm saying you're being a [ __ ] radiating. But it's okay cuz not all of us can do it cuz not all of us look like
00:47:14
Pervin/Pearlthat. So, okay. Your [ __ ] What does the look of anyone have anything to do with selling your [ __ ] It's okay. That's definitely the way you look. I don't know. For clarification purposes, like
00:47:27
SPEAKER_05doesn't every single woman walking the planet, well, depending on what we define as a woman, I don't want to get in trouble. Have a vagina? Yes. Does that make sense? Great point. Astute point. Cambridge or Wade Nodingham or
00:47:39
SPEAKER_05whatever. Yeah, because love that. Well done. You know, I one thing I I'll say is I um admire the bravery like because I could I
00:47:52
SPEAKER_05personally could never do that. I would be so I' I'd feel insecure. Wait, bravery to do what? Well, it's in in a sense it in a way you've got to be pretty [ __ ] ballsy and sorry to swear
00:48:03
SPEAKER_05again, Brian. and brave like to be able to I personally feel as a woman it's not natural to
00:48:15
SPEAKER_05I feel like everybody expose myself on camera to you know potentially millions of men for clarification doesn't feel very natural so that's what I mean as in I mean it takes I guess some bravery to
00:48:27
Andrew Wilsonyou know or something yeah but but hang on by that metric wouldn't it be brave to be a serial killer but we're not doing that. So that doesn't even make sense. It's completely different topic question. Let me ask her the question.
00:48:39
SPEAKER_05There's not there's not there's not that much difference. Hang on. Hang on. Wouldn't it be the case by that metric that it would be brave to be a serial killer? Yeah, actually Andrew, you're completely right. And I think I just I
00:48:50
SPEAKER_05didn't word it correctly. What I mean is it takes some kind of some there's something that I mean I I basically what I'm trying to say shamelessness. I'm usually I articulate
00:49:02
Vanna Rosemyself quite eloquently. I couldn't do it. That's what I'm trying to say. And if you can't do it, then that's exactly something that I feel like other people shouldn't judge what other people do with their lives because it's their
00:49:12
SPEAKER_05lives. Don't get me wrong, I could do it, but I wouldn't want to do it. Yeah. It wouldn't it wouldn't sit it wouldn't feel natural to
00:49:22
SPEAKER_05me. And that's fine. And I but I also just don't want to be like, you know, slammed for like being mean to girls who do Only Fans because at the end of the day, there's the millions and millions of men who are paying for this. Yeah,
00:49:35
SPEAKER_05exactly. Not everybody knows what people go through in their lives and the reasons why things happen. They just, you know, I just think that sex has been sold since the beginning of time since men and everybody's going to have sex
00:49:47
SPEAKER_05anyway. So, it's like it ch if someone chooses to do it a certain way that they feel like they want to do it. I don't feel like it people's morals. But do you understand like morals is a crazy thing to say? Morals. But do you understand
00:49:58
SPEAKER_05the damage that you're doing to society? Because do you understand that now men are no longer hunters? Well, they were already going to do that anyways because like I said, it's already been there.
00:50:08
SPEAKER_05Men no longer are hunters and they no longer like go and you know, whatever. Let's say go up and ask a girl for a drink in a bar because they can just sit behind a screen and they can do whatever
00:50:20
SPEAKER_05and look at girls like you. And it's kind of, you know, it's just ruining humanity in my opinion. People have always watched Korn and everyone's always, it's been around since forever.
00:50:31
Vanna RoseEven the pirate movies, like it's always been a thing. So, for example, Only Fan just made it a platform so that girls cannot be scammed by people that are directing and doing things like Korn and stuff like that. It was a platform for
00:50:43
Vanna Rosewomen to take their own and to be able to be like, if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it. I'm going to get what I want out of it and not be controlled and abused in situations like in the corn
00:50:53
SPEAKER_05industry. How sorry and no disrespect I didn't know that um corn or whatever we're gonna talk say it I didn't know that had been around for what did you
00:51:04
SPEAKER_05say thousands yes it's been around while with their cameras that long ago whenever there was cameras people were making movies like that since the beginning so do you not think that now
00:51:14
Vanna Rosebe it's be becoming exponentially worse so you know I feel like at the end of the day everyone that's the whole point of like everyone in life that you that's what you do is you mate So if people
00:51:25
Vanna Roselike it's already a thing that happens. So for me to just want to be able to do or make something from that when it's already happened anyways. I'm already being sexualized wherever I go. I'm
00:51:36
Vanna Rosetaking my stand for it. Like you're sexualize me anyways. Okay. So that I'm going to get my money off of it because no matter what you're going to do that to me no matter what. I understand you and I hear you. But every single woman around this table gets sexualized when
00:51:48
SPEAKER_05they walk down the street by men. And I don't think every single woman around this table has decided to has decided to spread her spread her legs on camera. Can I ask you a question? And don't take this offensively. When when you go out
00:52:00
SPEAKER_05and DJ, right, and you're out there and you're spinning on the table, um what type of outfits do you wear? Can I ask? I wear like a t-shirt, some denim
00:52:11
SPEAKER_05shorts, a bandana, and headphones. Is it kind of sexy and appealing? And and do you think do you have I try to make my I try to make my image look like quite like more interesting but I
00:52:23
SPEAKER_05don't dress like extremely provocatively but sexy right and that will bring people if I'm doing there's a difference between dressing sexy because you have a
00:52:31
SPEAKER_05talent and you are a DJ and just only we're capitalizing on being sexualized and only fans like she was saying only fans
00:52:44
SPEAKER_05is is around it's going to be around, right? It's not going anywhere and I'm not going to miss that bread. Well, we don't know the exact fact, but can I ask you a question? Mhm. Well, we'll see about that. We'll see about that. Well,
00:52:57
Vanna Roseeither way, the corn industry in general, it's been around for as long as it's been around. So, it's not just going to go away. Going to keep interrupting me. Can I ask you a question? You haven't given anyone else time to talk. I'm not interrupting you. I was in the middle of saying something, too. Your statements are very long, so
00:53:11
Anya Matusevichpeople don't get a chance to actually say something. I did want to say something. I I'm sorry. I wanted to ask you just for clarification purposes where do your morals come from? Are you Christian? Are you morals in the sense
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Pervin/Pearlof everyone talks about oh power empowerment of women and like is that the real definition of it? That's the notion of it. I don't think
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Pervin/Pearlit's morally okay. No. No. I'm not I'm not asking like your morals. I'm asking where they come from. Those are my opinions. No, it doesn't have to be a specific religion. It's my personal preferences. Those are my opinions. No,
00:53:46
Pervin/Pearlthat's fine. Do you know where they were of comments that came from here? Oh, it's [ __ ] If you guys don't care about other people's opinions, isn't it kind of hypocritical and rude for you to say my opinions are [ __ ] It was the
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Pervin/Pearlway you said it. You're like, I have morals. It doesn't matter. No one's sitting here coming at you for what you're doing. Those are your opinions. Okay, cool. And that's your opinion. And that's your own opinion. Those are my opinions. You don't have any right to
00:54:12
Pervin/Pearlsit there and you know she's well educated person. So my I'm not sitting here and bashing you. I'm just saying morally that's not what I think is okay. Okay. Well, you didn't state it like
00:54:22
Pervin/Pearlthat. You said I have morals. You didn't say my morals to which I would not do that. I wasn't talking about you. I wasn't talking about her. I wasn't talking about your mother or her. Those
00:54:32
Pervin/Pearlare my morals, my opinions. I did not bash any one of you. But instead, you sat there and said, "Oh, what a [ __ ] remark to make." Like, that's very, very rude. Can I upset at all by what you
00:54:45
Anya Matusevichsaid? Like, I'm genuinely upset. I'm just trying to get to the core of it. Like, everybody has somewhere where their morals were sourced from, right? Whether it be a religion, whether it be
00:54:54
Anya Matusevichfrom their parents and their parents had a specific reason for it. Um, do you like have a source in your head or are you just like this is stuff I've picked
00:55:04
Pervin/Pearlup over life? Um it's just I think like sex intimacy is you know a very vulnerable aspect to any type of individual whether like whatever
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Pervin/Pearlbackground you come from whatever religion you come from. So those are my morals based off of how I perceive it. No judge, no shame to others. Those are just my opinions. Okay. Since this is a
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Pervin/Pearlpodcast about talking and discussing differences, I just feel like it was the difference. I just didn't know I would have gotten a remark as Oh, that's a very Well, it was the way that you said you said I have morals, not these are my
00:55:39
Vanna Rosemorals. It was the statement though. It wasn't. Okay. Do you not hear me talking? Yeah. What I'm saying is you said I have morals. You weren't like these are my morals, so that's why I
00:55:49
Vanna Rosedon't. You said I have morals. Stating that anyone else's morals aren't okay. That's what I got from it. never said other well the statement the way you stated it there's different states of things so if you state it differently
00:56:01
Pervin/Pearlthen it will mean something else but the way that you stated it sounded like you were saying it specifically like why are you getting so triggered by what she said I'm not getting if you are going to perceive it that way that's a personal
00:56:13
Pervin/Pearlone one at a time one at a time let's start with chair seven and then you guys you know you can you kind of hash this out that's based off of your perception if you're going to understand my
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Pervin/Pearlstatement that's That's a personal problem. I did not say other people. I did not say this person, that person. I said my morals X, Y, and Z. So, I don't understand why you're perceiving this
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Pervin/Pearlassumption that I said this, this, and this to the point where you get offended and say that my opinion is [ __ ] That's kind of very rude. You didn't say my morals. You said I have morals. There was two different statements. I'm