100 Body Count By 19?! She CHEATED On Fiancé W/ His BEST Friend? ØF Mom/Daughter? | Dating Talk #247

Date: 2025-06-16
Duration: 7h 19m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Crystal (Sociology)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Pervin/Pearl(guest)
SPEAKER_06Felicity Hughes(guest)
SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_13Anya Matusevich(guest)
SPEAKER_14Vanna Rose(guest)

Key Moments

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IntroBrian introduces episode with remote Andrew Wilson

Topics Discussed

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Episode with Andrew Wilson remote

Andrew Wilson joins remotely. Multiple guests.

Transcript

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03:48:14
Brian Atlastwo bagger at least. Scroll down. What's a two bagger does that mean when you put it on? Keep going. bag over their head. No, you know, you know where to bagger is. Come on. There people were posting
03:48:26
Brian Atlaslike a bunch of funny photos. Maybe she Oh, she deleted it. Wait, keep going. Just keep going though. Maybe it'll pop up. Damn, she did this dirty because they were all kinds of funny photos on like photo comments. It's a million
03:48:39
Brian Atlasviews. She could have That must have been very time consuming to It might be maybe it was just on mobile that I People were like making all these funny edits. Uh
03:48:50
SPEAKER_05yeah. Who does she think she is speaking about men like that when she's I think she has more videos like that on her channel. Is that like her like brand like she's like trying to like Maybe she's doing it for um what's it called?
03:49:01
Andrew WilsonTo trigger people so that she gets more view. Of course. Oh, okay. I mean I'm sure I'm sure that that's exactly what she thought. She was like what can me a hideous wilderbeast
03:49:11
Andrew Wilsonto trigger as many men as I possibly can. me, a busted ass uh looking well below average, hideous woman. What can I
03:49:22
Brian Atlasdo to trigger as many men as possible? And so that's what she did. You're right. You're right. There's a lot, you know, there's a lot of uh people coming to her defense, though. In fact, you know, maybe we'll pull up my Twitter.
03:49:35
Andrew WilsonAlso, hideous wilderbeast. Tik Tok is kind of like an effort. Oh, Tik Tok is the most It's terrible. And she's already funny. I find Facebook the worst. Uh, do you have my Twitter? No,
03:49:47
Andrew WilsonTik Tok is the worst. You know why? You know why Tik Tok's the worst? Why? Because most of the user base, it's like 60 or 70%. I think it's it's 70 plus% actually is women. And so when you're on
03:49:58
Andrew WilsonTikTok, especially when you're on the lives, you're in the mind of a woman. And so it's just absolute carnage and chaos and [ __ ] madness and stupidity all the time. That's why that's why Tik
03:50:10
SPEAKER_05Tok is [ __ ] horrible. Horrible. I had no idea that that it was mostly women. Oh, yeah. It makes so much sense. That's why that Well, I mean, obviously the comments were deleted, but it makes
03:50:21
Andrew Wilsonsense because would be like saying what you're saying, right? Yeah. That's why when they were like, "They're going to delete Tik Tok." I was like, "No, they're not going to delete Tik Tok. There'll be a you know uh 200,000
03:50:34
Andrew Wilsonuh dumbass women tomorrow with signs who'll be like, "Don't delete my Tik Tok." Oh my god. Yeah. And before and guess what? I was 100% right. Hundreds
03:50:44
SPEAKER_01of thousands of whiny ass women who were like, "No, we have to have the Chinese invade us [ __ ] take over our social media cuz otherwise I can't post fish lip selfies with my busted [ __ ]
03:50:56
Vanna Roseface." That's literally what happened. And because and before that they had like musically, they had Vine. Like they were going to make another one too. Like it was going to like there was musically Vine and then there was Tik Tok. So like they were going to make another one no
03:51:07
Brian Atlasmatter what. Like they were gonna just pull up my Twitter. No. Did you send the link? Oh, okay. Yeah. Scroll down. All right. Scroll down. I'm going to tell you. There were two girls. We're
03:51:20
Brian Atlasonly going to watch part of it. Uh do the Wait, wait. Stop there. Uh the one with the nose ring. Oh my god. Who's that? Oh god. Why did
03:51:30
Andrew Wilsonyou do Click it? Terrible. All right. Uh video tab. I don't know why you guys stay. You guys are coping so hard. Take one look. You see the same thing I see coming. Go
03:51:42
Felicity Hughesahead. Play it. Thing about the war going on against the chopped man epidemic girl is that she's actually quite beautiful. Hello. Actually quite beautiful. Like actually dare I say more
03:51:53
Felicity Hughesthan conventionally attractive. But you guys are brain rocking. Pause it. I did. And then X out of that. What? That's kind And then go to the other video. Go to the other video. The one with the
03:52:05
SPEAKER_09yellow shirt. I'm in You have it? I do. Okay. Uh, video time. Oh, lord. Uh, play it. The war on the side of the chop man epidemic girl. She's right. Y'all are ugly. You don't
03:52:17
SPEAKER_09put effort into your appearances. You don't have hobbies. And you expect women to want you. And you're going to screenshot pictures of me and her while she's talking in an effort to make her feel ugly. When in reality, you would
03:52:28
SPEAKER_09cry of happiness if me or her or any of the women in her comment section touched you with a 10ft pole. Why? Cuz you're a version. Pause it. Just pause it. This isn't This isn't real. This is a little
03:52:40
Felicity Hughescreaky. This is baby, but she's not either. I know what this phenomenon is called. What happens is when one ugly chick sees another ugly chick, they instantly compare. And the one ugly
03:52:52
Andrew Wilsonchick's like, "I'm hotter than her, so if I'm friends with her and I'm out hanging out with her, I'll look pretty in comparison to this ugly broad." And so I I actually see this happen all the time. That's why you see clicks of
03:53:04
Andrew Wilsonreally pretty women together and then you see clicks of really [ __ ] ugly women together where they're all like fat and they're hideous and [ __ ] like that. It's literally look, I'm sorry, but all the time this is what I see.
03:53:16
Andrew WilsonClicks of really good-looking chicks and then clicks of really [ __ ] ugly chicks. That's what I see all the time. There must be something going on there. It's rage bait. Is that what it's called? Rage. What do you consider? We
03:53:28
Brian Atlashave uh Pasty George. Brian, why are you showing us videos of crackheads? That is a good question. Good question. Um, a really quick question, not related to this, just is
03:53:37
Brian Atlasanybody here Christian? Just curious. Kind of. You, what denomination? Um, I would say Orthodox. You would say Orthodox. Okay. What about you? Uh, Lutheran. Sorry, what? Lutheran.
03:53:50
SPEAKER_05Lutheran. And then, um, I'm not really sure. I went to Catholic. Get the mic to the edge of the table. Sorry. Sorry. I went to a Catholic boarding school. So, but I'm not Catholic. I'm just You just touched it. Sorry. Scoot it to the edge
03:54:03
Brian Atlasof the table. There you go. Um I'm just kind of my own Christian. I don't really know. I just Okay. All right. Uh we have Pacy George. To be honest, the woman on the video who said that men today are
03:54:15
Brian Atlaschopped, she looks like an indigenous crackhead. Okay. He had to add a qualifier there. She's not just a crackhead or looks like one. She's an indigenous crackhead. Looks like she eats bad head soup. A Andrew, what would
03:54:28
Vanna Roseyou consider like since you're saying like that was ugly, like what would you consider like pretty because you say you see pretty girls and then you see ugly girls, like what would you say like your level of pretty would be? I don't think that uh attractiveness is nearly as
03:54:40
Andrew Wilsonsubjective as women like to cope about, right? Yeah. Um the the truth is is that it seems like angular features with hourglass shapes, things like this, uh
03:54:50
Andrew Wilsonare universally accepted as being highly attractive. And here's why. Don't do that. Don't do that. The reason the re stop doing that. It's gross. But the the point is is the reason for this is just
03:55:02
Andrew Wilsonthink of it think of it from a reproductive standpoint. There has to be something that signals inside of men's brains and inside of women's brains to reproduce. Yeah. Has to be something, right? So there has to be some features
03:55:15
Andrew Wilsonwhich are universal that women have. They don't look sickly. Yeah. Right. Okay. Great. We got that out of the way. But what else? They like take care of themselves. Yeah. They have an hourglass
03:55:24
Andrew Wilsontype feature, wider hips, robust, they like go to the gym, things like this. That's all signaling health and reproduction. That's what men are going to be attracted to because sex ultimately is about reproduction, right?
03:55:38
Vanna RoseSo, of course, men are going to be attracted to youthful uh women with angular features, hourglass shapes, things like this. Yeah. Like people that take care of themselves and things like that. Like they actually like care about
03:55:49
Andrew Wilsontheir appearance. Not just taking care of yourself, but also there is a genetic element where there are some women who are born [ __ ] ugly. And there's some men who are just born [ __ ] ugly. And
03:56:01
Andrew Wilsonthat's the case. That is the truth. Objective truth, not sugarcoated, with no [ __ ] There's some people in this world who are [ __ ] ugly. But at least women can use pretend that that's not the case. You can pretend it's not the
03:56:13
SPEAKER_05case. But at least women can use makeup and stuff like that, you know, and men can't. So, it's kind of an unfair advantage. Well, it's not just that. I mean, uh the
03:56:24
Andrew Wilsonamount of fakeness of women, I I would I would actually counter and say I think that there's probably better looking men than there are women in the world. The truth is is that if I go back and I just
03:56:35
Andrew Wilsonlook at what women look like in the 1800s when all of the filters weren't there, no breast implants, right, none of this [ __ ] the rigors of hard living. Oh my god, they are
03:56:48
Vanna Roseyou wouldn't want to see it, right? Go look for yourself, right though? Looked about the same as they do now. I feel like back then too like food and stuff was different. So it's like I feel like a lot of times a lot of things are more processed nowadays. So I feel like
03:57:01
Vanna Rosecuz back then like people would eat the same stuff and do the same things a lot of the times, but I' they've changed a lot of that stuff. So, I feel like it's harder to keep that type of body, you know, like cuz everyone, if you look
03:57:12
Vanna Roseback in like the 50s, like everybody did have hourglass glass shapes and I feel like that does have a lot to do with like the food and stuff like nowadays, like the processed stuff, right?
03:57:23
Andrew WilsonThe mini Scott was they all smoked in the 40s and 50s and smoking is an appetite suppression and you didn't see like women smoked. All women smoked. Once upon a time,
03:57:35
Andrew Wilsonalmost every woman on in the United States was smoking and almost every man was smoking. It was prescribed by doctors to smoke for stress and it was an appetite curbing. That's what it did. So, are you saying like smoking is what
03:57:46
Vanna Rosehelped people keep the hourglass shape? It's one reason. Yeah. Keep skinny. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why people like Yeah. Like vaping and stuff. Like when you stop vaping, you like turn to something else like and then they people like start doing like Well, like certain people like if you stop vaping like
03:57:59
Vanna Rosethey'll want to eat more and then they'll gain weight and stuff like that. And I could see why because it's still it's the nicotine that suppresses it. Yeah. Well, it wasn't just that. You didn't have fast food. You didn't have any of that stuff. Yeah. Exactly. Also,
03:58:11
SPEAKER_05the reason why the minikrt was so popular in the '60s was because we didn't have as much but we weren't as we were malnourished. Yeah. So, we you know, women were skinnier so that's why we could pull off
03:58:23
Andrew Wilsonminiskirts and malnourished in the 60s. Crazy. Okay. Malnourished. It's the opposite, right? Okay. Like we were we were we had much better quality food.
03:58:35
SPEAKER_05Well, maybe obesity levels now are much much much higher than in the 60s. What do you mean for men? Yeah. Sorry. You mean for men?
03:58:46
Andrew WilsonThe tea levels are lower now than they were in the 60s. Really? Significantly. Oh, I didn't know that. So, yeah, the tea levels in men have been dropping off
03:58:56
Andrew Wilsonsince the early 1900s like a rock. Oh, fascinating. Thanks for the Yeah, it has a there's a correlation of there's a massive combination of factors that goes
03:59:06
Andrew Wilsoninto it, but it it's a mixture of plastics, diet, bad genetics. I mean, it there's a whole host of issues speculated as to why, but uh yeah, the testosterone levels has drastically
03:59:18
Brian Atlasdecreased. It meant almost globally, by the way. Oh, that makes sense. Okay. All right. We have Josh Brooks British accent at beard
03:59:30
Brian Atlasraley gay guat is coming for it ya humou wuzo please give me your best British accent
03:59:41
SPEAKER_05and say this phrase thank you dude I don't understand what you're up to Josh Brooks is this I'm not sure I'm not sure about this that's uh that's an interesting one like
03:59:52
Brian Atlasit could have just signed recently should used a different paper. That's annoying. Um, okay. One sec, guys. We're going to get into the uh the questionnaire here. I think
04:00:03
Andrew Wilsonactually, you know what? We're going to Oh, you I'm sorry. Did you Did I Maybe I I missed this. Did you say obesity
04:00:12
SPEAKER_05or testosterone? I'm sorry. Did you say obesity? Who me? You chair three. Yeah. Uh,
04:00:20
SPEAKER_05I said I I I thought that back in the 60s people had more of a healthy body. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. That's what I was saying. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. I'm sorry. I think maybe I misheard you.
04:00:33
Andrew WilsonThat's why I got so confused. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, you're good. Somebody corrected me. They were like, "No, no, she was talking about obesity." Yeah. Um, yeah, but I I I guess I heard it wrong. So, my apologies
04:00:44
Andrew Wilsonthere. I was like, "Oh my god, I've got it completely wrong." No, no, no, no. You had it completely right. That is the case that in the in the uh 40s, 50s, 60s, obesity was not an epidemic like it
04:00:56
SPEAKER_05is now, right? Okay, cool. Thank you for clarifi clarifying. What are the What are the red blue pills? Yeah, I was wondering from it's a reference to the film The Matrix. Yeah, I know. I just
04:01:09
Vanna Rosedidn't know if it was for that specifically or something. Pro to the film. Uh, okay. So, um, that's pretty cool. And I never knew that they made those.
04:01:21
Brian AtlasOh, I got to pull this up. Oh my god. Yeah, there's [ __ ] Okay, I'm just going to do Anya your questionnaire because it's all scuffed. Um, the bloody You said that men should have the same
04:01:31
Anya Matusevichstandard body count as the women they're dating. Yeah. So, the question was if I disagreed with anything that's kind of talked about on the show. Um, a lot I
04:01:43
Anya Matusevichfeel like a lot of the times in the red pill community, a lot of guys want women to have a low body count, which I agree with, but then they'll have a very different standard for themselves, which
04:01:54
Anya Matusevichto be fair, I think body count is different for men and women. I think men can have a high higher body count than women and still with it working out. Um, but I think if you're a man who has a
04:02:06
Anya Matusevichbody count of 100 and you turn down a girl who's perfect, but she has a body count of 15 and just because you're against the body count issue, you have
04:02:16
Brian Atlasnowhere you have no room to talk. So, you think it's uh Sorry. Sorry, Brian. Go ahead. I mean, do you do you think it's hypocritical?
04:02:26
Anya MatusevichYou think it's unfair? What? H um I I think it's the same reason that you want a woman to have a lower body
04:02:34
Anya Matusevichbody count, you'd kind of want the man to have a lower body count body count. I don't know. I mean, I it's just it's kind of hypocritical, which again, I still state that me it's it's different
04:02:48
Brian Atlasfor men and women, right? But you would agree. You Well, I don't know if you would agree with me, but do you think that there are certain things that women want that they don't possess themselves?
04:03:00
Brian AtlasYes. Okay. Like, would it be hypocritical, for example, for a broke woman to have a preference or be attracted to like a really rich guy? I
04:03:09
Anya Matusevichthink if she Yeah. I think it would be strange for a woman. It would be really rich of her to be like, "Oh, I only go
04:03:18
Anya Matusevichfor millionaires as she is making no money."
04:03:26
Brian AtlasI don't think it would necessarily make her a hypocrite. I mean, I don't I think it would just she wouldn't have room to talk like she she can't be that picky. How about
04:03:37
Brian AtlasHow about this one? Uh, a woman who's not a professional athlete. So, well, you're kind of muddying the water a little bit here by saying only wanting to date this.
04:03:50
Brian AtlasSo, is that your original position? So, like what if a guy his his general preferences towards low body count women, but he himself has a high body count? Okay. Well, even if I was going
04:04:01
Brian Atlasto, you know what, I'll just bite on it. So, the the guy with a high body count, he only wants to date low body count women. Okay. Don't actually have a problem with this. Um,
04:04:12
Brian AtlasI I I just I don't see what's wrong with it. Would it be wrong for I shouldn't ask I shouldn't even phrase it this way. What would actually be wrong with a woman who has a preference for dating
04:04:23
Anya Matusevichprofessional athletes, but she's not a professional athlete. And women do do this. Yeah. Like women do this for Why do they do it? They do it for the money and the fame, right? Or
04:04:34
Anya Matusevichthey're just attracted to professional athletes. I don't know. I mean, now we're getting down to like what the root cause of attraction in that specific case is, but I think if she was going
04:04:45
Anya Matusevichafter money and power, right? So, if she's going after money and power, then I would call her a gold digger. Um, but I mean, can you help who you're attracted to? No. Okay. I I mean, I
04:04:58
Andrew Wilsonthink you can actually I think you can work towards it. Um, you work towards it. Okay. But if you can't help, generally like, can you right now find men you find unattractive attractive?
04:05:10
Andrew WilsonI can somewhat push myself into it, but I'd prefer not to. Not generally, though. Right. Correct. So, if you only found men who were 6 feet tall attractive, is that something You're not
04:05:21
Anya Matusevich6 feet tall, right? Right. Okay. So, are you a hypocrite? I mean, I I I see what you're saying. I think we're talking like what's the purpose of wanting a woman with a low
04:05:34
Andrew Wilsonbody count, right? Because you're more attracted to it. You're more attracted to it. But why? Well, let's just let's just assume that whatever the reason is is [ __ ]
04:05:45
Andrew Wilsonridiculous and stupid. Let's just assume it for the sake of the of the argument. So what? Even if it was the case that it was just a stupid and ridiculous reason why they were attracted to it, is that
04:05:58
Andrew Wilsonany less stupid and ridiculous than the reason you're attracted to men who are 6 feet or taller? I mean, I think it's fair to want a woman with a low body count. I'm not against that. Um, yeah, but that's not really the question. The question isn't whether or not you think
04:06:10
Andrew Wilsonit's fair. The question is is about it's about attraction, right? Uhhuh. when you're talking about being attracted to men, right, who are, let's say, they're over six feet. Do you find
04:06:21
Anya Matusevichmen who are over six feet attractive? I I think it's I guess then how does he feel about the fact that he does have a high body count? And is that something that How do you feel about the fact that you're not 6 foot
04:06:34
Andrew WilsonI didn't put in my question there be six foot, but if I can jump in really quick, let's just say let's just say you're attracted to men who are six feet or taller. Uhhuh. What would be actually wrong with that? I mean, I don't think there's anything
04:06:45
Anya Matusevichwrong with it. I think it's just a little bit hypocritical. That's it. Because you're not 6 feet or taller yourself. No, I'm saying the the body count debate is a is a little bit hypocritical. I
04:06:58
Andrew Wilsondon't understand the difference though. If you're attracted to You also can't control your height if you're only Yeah, you can't control it. But that's my whole point. You can control your body. You can control who you put it in. Okay.
04:07:10
Anya MatusevichMaybe. But so what? But are you attracted to black men? I mean, I can find them conventionally attractive, but they're not my type typically. No. Okay. And if there's white people who are not
04:07:21
Andrew Wilsonattracted to black men, um, is is that somehow wrong because that's an immutable characteristic. I don't think it's wrong. No. Yeah. So, it it but body count is something you said you can
04:07:33
Andrew Wilsoncontrol you just said you can control this thing, right? But you can't control height or things like this. It's like, but you can't control skin color either. And that could that could ruin your chances for a conventional
04:07:45
Andrew Wilsonattractiveness, can't it? Right. You can't you can't control your skin color. You can't control your height. And so you can't control But you can control your body count. You Sure. Sure. But what if you're attracted to
04:07:58
Anya Matusevichwomen have a low body count? You just don't want to have a low body count yourself. I mean, I think it would just be a little bit hypocritical because you the reason you want a woman with a low body
04:08:08
Anya Matusevichcount is because she is all yours. You've had you have like the privacy of her. She's I'm trying to look for the specific word. I can't think of it. But like
04:08:21
Anya Matusevichshe's all yours. She hasn't been passed around by a bunch of men. I wouldn't want a man who's been passed around by a bunch of women. You know what I mean? Okay. So, you're saying you wouldn't find that attractive?
04:08:34
Anya MatusevichA man who's been passed around by a bunch of women? Not necessarily. Again, I'm not saying he has to have a body count of zero. I think that that's fair. I think that there's some women who wouldn't find that attractive. Yeah. But I think the overwhelming majority of men
04:08:46
Andrew Wilsondon't find it attractive when women have high body counts. I agree. And so, here's here's where we run into this kind of issue. So, that woman there was a woman, you just heard her talk, who
04:08:56
Andrew Wilsonsaid, "You would be lucky to be with a woman like me. you're still a virgin. It seems that she's equating status with
04:09:06
Andrew Wilsonmen who are able to have lots of sex with beautiful women. That's really strange. Why would women, do you think, equate status with men who have sex with many beautiful women, but also give them
04:09:19
Andrew Wilsona lower status if they've had sex with no women? I wouldn't give them a high status. I wouldn't I don't think specifically. I'm asking about women. Why is it that women seem to give a higher status to men? I can't give you
04:09:31
Anya Matusevichan answer. Beautiful women and give a lower status to men who have sex with no women. You're ask You're asking me to explain You're asking me to explain the reason why a woman thinks the way she does when I don't think anything like
04:09:43
Andrew Wilsonher. Did she say Did Did she say beautiful women? Beautiful. She like when she said she said that she's she she said that she was conventionally attractive and
04:09:56
Andrew Wilsonthat the other woman was conventionally attractive and that these men would be lucky to have them because they're still virgins. You see? So if that's the case, it sounds to me like she's assigning a lower social status. I think it's cuz
04:10:08
Andrew Wilsonshe thinks women are the gatekeepers then she would assign to a man who is able to I don't know pull women in her category, right? I I think in I guess
04:10:19
Anya MatusevichShe's the hypocrite because she's thinking that women are the gatekeepers of sex or sorry schmacks. Uh women are the gatekeepers of schmacks but at the same time
04:10:30
Anya Matusevichthat men like she's saying the same thing but for both sexes. Do you smoke? Somewhat.
04:10:42
Anya MatusevichYeah. You shouldn't. Does that make me a hypocrite? Um, how do you feel about it? That you shouldn't smoke.
04:10:53
Anya MatusevichOkay. So, I I think we all do things that we know are bad for us. Yeah. Does it make me a hypocrite though? I'm smoking. I think a little bit. If I tell my
04:11:04
Andrew Wilson10-year-old not to smoke, am I a hypocrite? Um, no. Well, I guess not because you How come I'm not a hypocrite when I tell my 10-year-old not to smoke, but only a
04:11:15
Anya Matusevichhypocrite when I tell you not to? No, I mean, if you told both of us not to feel like it also comes with age, like when you're legally allowed, Hang on, hang on before the sisterhood kicks
04:11:27
Andrew Wilsonin. I just want to finish the exchange. I mean, I 10 years old. Why is it if I tell my 10year-old not to smoke, even though I'm a smoker, that I'm not a hypocrite? I think it's because you're
04:11:38
Anya Matusevichyou're um you have a responsibility to instill knowledge and to instill values and to instill like behaviors into ch into your child. This is you have a responsibility over this kid. You don't
04:11:51
Andrew Wilsonhave any responsibility over me. It's also leading by example. Here's where the problem comes in is that you're you misunderstand what the word hypocrite means. Hypocrite does not mean I am
04:12:01
Andrew Wilsondoing the same thing I'm telling you not to do. That's not hypocrisy. Hypocrisy requires pretentious acting. That's what hypocrisy not believing what you're
04:12:13
Andrew Wilsonsaying. If you're really fat and you're on a treadmill and you look over at a guy who's really fat and you say, "Hey, you shouldn't be so fat. That's not healthy for you." There there is no hypocrisy there. He's correct. That guy
04:12:25
Andrew Wilsonis fat. He does need to lose lose weight. The status of you being fat has no bearing on that whatsoever. It's only if publicly I said smoking is bad, let's say, and then privately I was smoking
04:12:36
Andrew Wilsonaway, then I would be a hypoc. So, so it's not believing the things that you're putting out there. Yeah. There would be a sense of acting. Yes. So, if a man says that he prefers a
04:12:49
Anya Matusevichwoman with a low body count, he himself has a high body count. Where's the acting? Okay. So, so that's that's what I said is that it depends on how he feels about it. If he regrets it and he
04:13:01
Andrew WilsonNo, he doesn't regret it. That's all he seeks is virgins and that's all he wants. Mhm. How does that make him a hypocrite? Cuz he's not practicing what he believes. No, he is practicing what he
04:13:13
Andrew Wilsonis. He believes that he should have a high body count and she shouldn't. I mean, I don't know. I just So, where's the hypocrisy? Let me let me think. It's just like I'm
04:13:25
Andrew WilsonLet's just say I'm fat cuz I am. And I wanted a woman who was skinny, right? Am I a hypocrite? That's your preference. Of course,
04:13:37
Andrew Wilsonthat's not hypocrisy. That's not what hypocrisy means. I think you have a I think you have a a bad idea of what hypocrisy is. I think with the smoking thing, it's more about
04:13:48
SPEAKER_05um like trying to what's the word? um you want your son to grow up to maybe not have the habits that you have. So it's
04:13:58
Andrew Wilsonmore about setting a good example. So it's not hypocrisy. It is hypocrisy. But how is it hypocrisy though? Well, if you're smoking if I smoke if I if I smoke and tell you smoking is bad,
04:14:10
SPEAKER_05that's not hypocrisy. Well, it's No, if I tell you smoking is bad and I would never smoke. If you're smoking a cigarette in front of your son and then tell him not to smoke a cigarette,
04:14:19
Anya Matusevichthat's hypocritical. hypocrisy. Wait, so so then Okay. So what is the man? So So then the man in this scenario, he would
04:14:27
Anya Matusevichsay a high body count is bad, but then he has a high body count himself. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm I'm I'm getting a little bit lost on our definition. I feel like we're going more bouncy.
04:14:41
Andrew WilsonHere's what you're doing. What you're doing is classic reframing, right? Sure. In a case where a man says high body counts are bad, right? and he has a high body count. Maybe you could make the
04:14:52
Andrew Wilsonequation of hypocrisy then, but that's not what men say. Okay, so I guess that was I have a high body count and that's fine. And I want a woman has a low body count, that is not hypocrisy.
04:15:03
Anya MatusevichSo, so my statement is I guess I should have clarified in the note that a man who thinks that a high body count is bad and prefers women with lower body counts but then at the same time goes out and
04:15:16
Anya Matusevichsleeps with a bunch of women while also saying that having a high body count is bad. I think that that's hypocritical. Well, that would be hypocritical. Who's doing that? So, let me cl So, that was my that was the clarification on my
04:15:28
Andrew Wilsonopinion. Yeah. I mean, if you if there was a serial killer who told you serial killing was wrong, he's not being a hypocrite. It's if the man was actively pursuing serial killers cuz he said it was wrong
04:15:40
Anya Matusevichand then secretly he was serial killing, then he would be a hypocrite, right? So, like for example, like I've seen fit I think their name is Fit and Fresh. I think I've seen FitFresh say having a
04:15:52
Andrew Wilsonhigh body count is bad, but then at the same time they'll talk a lot about I can tell you right now that I can tell you Myron's exact position. Okay, Myron's
04:16:02
Andrew Wilsonexact position is that men and their status equation with having a high body count for women actually makes them more attractive to women. And women who have
04:16:12
Andrew Wilsona higher body count makes them less attractive to men. And here's how he backs this up. And it's really hard to argue this point because what he says is
04:16:23
Andrew Wilsonlook, women will usually insult men and put them in a lower social category if they haven't had sex with multiple
04:16:32
Andrew Wilsonwomen. They say you can't pull women. You're in a lower social category. Women though never put men in a lower social category because they have slept with
04:16:42
SPEAKER_05many women. I actually if I um go on a date with a guy and he tells me he slept with like like loads and loads of girls, it actually puts me off him.
04:16:55
Andrew WilsonYour preference of attractive Hang on. Your preference for attraction may go down. Sure. But that doesn't mean his social status goes down with women because it doesn't. Your particular your particular and specific preference may
04:17:08
Andrew Wilsongo away just like your preference may be to have blondhaired guys. That doesn't mean that the social status of a man goes down because he doesn't have blonde hair. The truth of the matter is is the social status of men, at least in the
04:17:20
Andrew Wilsoncurrent society, if they can have sex with beautiful women, is real high. Well, that's social status for women having sex with multiple men is not because it's really easy for women to do that, isn't it? Yeah, of course. Any any
04:17:32
Andrew Wilsonpretty much any woman can walk outside and get laid within 5 seconds. If you and I go out, if you and I go out to the street tomorrow and we're holding a sign and you say, "First man who honks, I'll suck your dick, right, and I say, "First
04:17:44
Andrew Wilsonwoman who honks, I'll sleep with you." Who do you think is going to get honked at first? Probably the girl for sure. Of course. Yeah, the girl for sure. So, it's not some big feat. It's not some great task that you've accomplished, is
04:17:56
SPEAKER_05it? Oh, absolutely not. I don't think that a woman having a huge body count is a something to be proud of at all. But for a man it is actually a big task, isn't it?
04:18:07
Andrew WilsonThat if you could pull tons of beautiful women, that actually is something which is uh which is not something most men can do, but for women seems to be super duper easy. So that's why the social
04:18:19
Anya Matusevichstatus seems to be associated with it. You said something specific. You said if he can sleep with many beautiful women. I think I think women can sleep can sleep with a
04:18:31
Anya Matusevichlot of men but they but certain women choose to be chase right that's the word chase um and their value goes exponentially higher exponentially
04:18:40
Anya Matusevichhigher so man's does not if if you look at a man you're like oh yeah he can definitely get it but then you talk to him and he's like yeah I don't throw myself around there I think on maybe we
04:18:53
Andrew Wilsoncan go around most women see that as a red flag Actually, can we actually go around and ask because most women will see men in their 30s who are virgins as being red flags, what's wrong with him? Okay, what's going on with him? What's the problem with that guy? Okay, but
04:19:07
Anya Matusevichlike if I see a conventionally attractive man and I know that he could get any woman in the bar at that at that specific time and then I come up to talk to him and he's like, "Yeah, I've actually only really had one relationship, only had one partner." I
04:19:20
Anya Matusevichthat would instantly make me attracted to him. I I I honestly think everybody here would agree with that. I think we can see an attractive man, understand that he can get it, but knowing that he didn't is hot. And it's the same way for
04:19:33
Andrew Wilsonwomen. Yeah. Well, let's find out if this is true. Okay, we'll we'll do this with just a quick social experiment. I'm ready to be proved wrong. I want you I
04:19:41
Andrew WilsonIf you have slept with more than three men who have had only one body or less, raise your hand.
04:19:52
Andrew WilsonIf you have slept with more than two men who have had more than five bodies, raise your hand. Wait, can you can you say that? If you have slept with more
04:20:03
Andrew Wilsonthan three men, more than three men and those three men have had more than five bodies, raise your hand. Wait, sorry, I was getting confused.
04:20:14
Andrew WilsonHow What's confusing about this? Sorry. I zoned out. If you slept Hang on. If you've slept with three men, three women
04:20:21
Andrew Wilsonthree. No, sorry. Okay. Who have had more than three women? Raise your hand. Raise it up. Come on. Raise it up. You
04:20:33
Andrew Wilson[ __ ] lying. S. Raise your Yeah, there we go. But nobody was raising their [ __ ] hand when it came to the man who had only slept with one. But you want me
04:20:43
Vanna Roseto believe that you just find them to be conventionally attractive? Yeah. Right. Tell me some more [ __ ] some other time. I feel like it's kind of hard to find men that's only slept with like one
04:20:55
Vanna Rosegood guy, especially like well like where where we are at like in LA and stuff. I feel like a lot of people like typically it's either you haven't had sex with anyone cuz you're saving yourself or like you've had sex with
04:21:07
Andrew Wilsonmore people when it comes to men. That's how I feel. Let's see. Let's let's put this to the test. Do you think it's easier to find men with a lower body count or women with a lower body count? women. You think it's easier to find
04:21:20
Andrew Wilsonwomen with a lower body count? Absolutely. Shall we go through the stats? Just because we can get more doesn't mean that we do. Hang on. Can we Shall we go through the stats of how
04:21:30
Andrew Wilsonmany men remain virgins versus women by the time they're 21 years old? You want to go through those stats? I'd love to hear. Let's do it. It's because they're watching porn and they don't have hunter mentality. Men definitely have a lower
04:21:43
Andrew Wilsonbody count than women in general. definitely have a lower body count generally speaking than women do in their same age bracket. And why? Because of of sex selection. It's just sex selection. They just can't. Maybe I've
04:21:55
Anya Matusevichseen the wrong people cuz all the men I know slept with. I think it's also age brackets. So I feel like women sleep women get more action when they're
04:22:06
Anya Matusevichyounger. So between the ages of probably I'm I'm pulling this out of nowhere, but probably like 18 to 22. And then men are probably getting more action once they've actually set up their careers.
04:22:19
Anya MatusevichThey're making more money in the field. Women are more attracted to them. So then it's like 24 to n they stay [ __ ] for a minute. Yeah. Mm-m. But I'm saying like when do at which I' I'd actually
04:22:32
Anya Matusevichreally be interested in seeing the numbers on this is when each sex um kind of accumulates their body count at what ages generally.
04:22:45
Brian AtlasDo you understand what I'm saying? He's not He's not even here. He's gone. Well, here we did kind of at what age? But I I want to bring it back to like the central thing that we were talking about. Hide the
04:22:56
Brian AtlasDiscord really quick. um until he's back. So, to your original point, you're like, "Oh, well, a guy who has a high body count, if he desires a low body count, woman or a virgin, blah, blah, blah." Like, that's wrong, whatever. But
04:23:09
Brian Atlason that same questionnaire, you indicated that you have an expectation that men pay for first dates. Mhm. Okay. You have that expectation, you have that
04:23:18
Anya Matusevichdesire, you have that want. Do you pay for first dates? I mean, I haven't gone on many dates, but the ones I have, no. Or even if you
04:23:31
Brian Atlasdon't go on many dates, do you want to pay for the first date? No. If like, so you desire something in a partner that either, in this case, the trait of willingness to pay for the date. You
04:23:43
Anya Matusevichdon't possess said trait of willingness to pay for the date, yet you want men to pay for the date. I don't think it's wrong. I think what we clarified was was
04:23:52
Anya Matusevichit would be me saying that it's wrong to want men to pay on the first date and then expecting that out of men because that's what we clarified with Andrew on
04:24:04
Anya Matusevichwas that I cl I clarified my opinion was that I think a man a man who thinks a high body count is bad but then expects that of out of a woman
04:24:16
Brian Atlasthat is hypocritical and I think that's what we agreed on was that that's the definition of hypocrisy. What if it just is the case that it it is the case perhaps this is pattern recognition that this high body count man through his
04:24:30
Brian Atlasexperience and through getting that high body count he's realized well it seems like the women that I've had longerterm relationships with or the more pleasant women uh or just like a general vague
04:24:41
Brian Atlassense of lack of an ick or whatever it is. He's come to that determination through his high body count. I prefer low body count women. What's What's actually wrong with that?
04:24:54
Brian AtlasI feel like everyone's allowed to have their own. Don't we Don't we all want to get the best that we can get? Yes. And if we can get it, we're going to go for it. So, if it is the case that the highest quality women, the best quality
04:25:06
Brian Atlaspartners, girlfriends, wives, whatever, the lower body count, the better. Wouldn't even men who are promiscuous themselves have a preference towards low body count women because these women
04:25:18
Brian Atlaslower likelihood of STDs. But does he think a high body count is bad? Does he think a high body count is bad? Uh women he thinks a high body count is
04:25:29
Anya Matusevichbad. Let's say he thinks it's cuz that was the clarification that we came upon was that if he thinks it's bad, but cuz that was the definition of hypocrisy.
04:25:38
Andrew WilsonHaving a look, if he thinks that having a high body count um in general is bad, right? Like, oh, this is this is bad. This is uh this is blah blah blah blah
04:25:49
Andrew Wilsonblah. He can still a man can have a preference even if he has a high body count to have a woman with a low body count. That's not hypocrisy. It would only be if he's making a moral advocation of X while at the same time
04:26:02
Andrew Wilsondoing X. That would be what would make him a hypocrite. Agreed. Definitionally, it would be I'll just tell you the definition. So, but agreed. So, so he wouldn't be continuing claiming to have
04:26:13
Andrew Wilsonmoral standards or beliefs to which one owns behavior does not conform. That's hypocrisy. Okay. So he has a belief that having a
04:26:23
Anya Matusevichhigh body count is bad, but his actions, as you just said, don't conform to that. How is his actions not conforming to it after having a a high body count that he
04:26:34
Andrew Wilsondoesn't regret or he doesn't think, hey, maybe let's say he does, let's say he regrets it, but he still has a preference for a woman with a lower body count. That wouldn't make him a hypocrite, right?
04:26:46
Andrew WilsonWait, I'm sorry. Say that again. There's like people screaming. Jose says high body counts in men and women are generally bad. Right? They're bad. Men shouldn't be promiscuous and women
04:26:57
Anya Matusevichshouldn't be promiscuous. But in my dating life, I prefer women who have a low body count. That is not hypocrisy. But wasn't that what we agreed on was hypocrisy?
04:27:08
Andrew WilsonNo. You said something different earlier. I think you said that there was an advocation that he was saying a high body count is bad while he was out [ __ ] Right. That's what I'm That is what I'm saying is that Yeah, but that's
04:27:21
Anya Matusevichthat's a distinctly different thing. If he settles down and says, "I'm not going to increase my I'm not going to keep doing what I'm doing and keep sleeping around." That's what I'm saying. Mhm.
04:27:33
Anya MatusevichThen that's fine. But if he continues sleeping around and at the same time he's let's say running through all of us and telling every single one of us high body count is bad, high body count is
04:27:43
Andrew Wilsonbad and just running through us. That's that's when I think it's kind of silly. Yeah, that would be a moral advocation of a thing you don't actually believe. True. If you're saying but that's only
04:27:54
Andrew Wilsonif the inference is towards the man. If he's saying in both men and I'm saying both this is bad, then yeah, that would be a hypocrite. I'm saying both. Yes. If that was his advocation, both
04:28:07
Andrew Wilsonthat's bad. And then continue to do the behavior. Yeah. That would be hypocrisy. Correct. That's my statement. That's what I'm saying. Both. Yeah. But that doesn't like that doesn't help us reconcile anything because it's not actual hypocrisy then. If a man has a
04:28:20
Andrew Wilsonhigh body count, prefers a woman with a lower body count. It would just come down to preference, right? Not hypocrisy. Can I Okay. So, I'll take the paper and I'll rewrite my statement into exactly what you and I just stated is
04:28:31
Anya Matusevichthat and I'll I'll write it with the 1500 characters. Is that if he Well, it's not 1500 characters. I'm just making sure that we're clear on what it is we're talking about. That's all. And yes, that is the clarification is that if he continues saying that a high body
04:28:44
Anya Matusevichcount is bad, but continues in those actions, and we're talking about men and women, not for men, not for women, and continues in those actions, I think that's hypocritical. Well, and the other
04:28:55
Andrew Wilsonthing is is to remember like on on the Myron side, everything that he's saying there when it comes to power dynamics between men and women seemingly plays
04:29:05
Andrew Wilsonout socially as being at least somewhat true. When men have these ridiculously high body counts they pull in, let's just say that they slept with three 300 women, right? And they're uh, you know,
04:29:18
Andrew Wilsonmulti-millionaires and and things like this. Their social status in society doesn't seem to go down a bit. It just doesn't seem to go down a bit. And just because they drastically nose dive for
04:29:30
Anya Matusevichwomen. Just because they win from it doesn't mean it's good. Like just because I'm making money from OF doesn't mean that's good. Look, I don't advocate for that. Can I just say something really why why he comes to this
04:29:41
Brian Atlasconclusion? I've been waiting. Can you guys finish up your uh exchange? It's literally just going to be 30 seconds. Is it Is it related to this topic? Yeah. Yeah. Um, and I know this I'm not
04:29:52
SPEAKER_05condoning I don't know, but men I think are hardwired to sort of this is very uh cringe, but to spread their seed and women are meant to because you know
04:30:03
SPEAKER_05they're pregnant for 9 months. So it's like on an animalistic level it kind of makes sense that maybe men would have more sexual partners than women. I could I could agree. I wish I'd explained that
04:30:16
Anya Matusevichbetter, but well, just because you're programmed or want to do something doesn't necessarily mean it's correct. Like, for example, like, well, I I understand, but you can say the same thing about gay people. They they make
04:30:28
Anya Matusevichthe same argument. Well, I'm I was born and I was wired to have schmacks with the opp with the same u same sex, so it's right for me to do it. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just
04:30:40
Vanna Rosesaying that's the argument that they make. But I feel like like there people like men are actually meant to have like do that like that's just a choice like people like agree. So but like that's
04:30:51
Vanna Roselike actually like in like you know like the guys are there to produce. So I could see why it could be like more cuz I I think that's where I think that's where religion comes in is that like
04:31:02
Anya MatusevichOkay. So are we saying that cheating on your wife is good just so you can spread your seed all over? No. Because I'm not saying it's acceptable. I'm just saying
04:31:12
Andrew Wilsonthat maybe that's one of the reasons why it's more acceptable in a way for a man to have a higher body count than a woman. I think it's way simpler than
04:31:21
Andrew Wilsonthis. I think that um in women's lizard brain, man who virgin, right, can't pull women, red flag come up in lizard brain.
04:31:31
Andrew WilsonMan who lots of women like, green flag come up in lizard brain. Super simple. I don't even think it's that complicated. Oh, lots of women like him. There must be something about him that's great. Oh,
04:31:44
Andrew Wilsonwomen don't like him. There must be something about him that's bad. I think it's really that simple. I don't I think that all of this is an over you're over uh or trying to make something complex
04:31:55
Andrew Wilsonthat's not really that complex. If it is the case that women avoid the company of a man, right, likely it raises a red flag in the lizard brain of other women. Why is everybody avoiding the company of
04:32:08
Andrew Wilsonthis man? And if you see a man on the other hand who women seem to really enjoy his company, I think that it go you go, "Wow, I wonder what that's all about." That's what I think. I don't
04:32:18
Anya Matusevicheven think it's that complex. Well, the the question was, what did I think about it? Did I think it was hypocritical? Maybe all the women here don't think it's hypocritical. Maybe they all want a man with a high body count. But I'm
04:32:30
Anya Matusevichsaying for me personally, I think it's hypocritical. And it's not something I would want in a partner. is. And again, I'm not saying you're you're also making a black and white statement. You're saying he's either getting thousands of
04:32:42
Brian Atlaswomen or he's getting no women. I I want somebody who's like over here. I'll make it super simple. I'll make it super simple. Me and Andrew don't have objections to women having the
04:32:52
Brian Atlaspreference of I myself as a woman want a low body count man. But would you be willing to agree to this that generally speaking, women are far more forgiving
04:33:02
Brian Atlasof promiscuity in men than the reverse? Like women will deal with if if a guy is super attractive and he's got a high body count, then that's that's like less
04:33:15
Anya Matusevichof a big deal. Whereas promiscuity in women is a bigger bigger issue. I can agree to that on a societal level. Okay. I'm not saying on a personal level, but on a societal level, yes, women I'm not saying it's the case for you, but I
04:33:28
Brian Atlaswould say generally speaking, women either care a little bit, I agree, less, don't care at all. uh Chris Brown who's probably slept with hundreds if not thousands of women and also has a
04:33:38
Brian Atlashistory of like I could say that alleged domestic violence or I maybe it was well is it alleged I don't know whatever uh just look at the men do tend to care more that's for sure like like literally
04:33:50
Andrew Wilsonjust look at the groupy phenomenon there's rock stars out there they got hundreds of female groupies who are just on demand to sleep with them whenever they want that does not happen in
04:34:00
Andrew Wilsonreverse that it does not happen you don't see a bunch of females out there who are big pop stars and this and that who have hundreds of male groupies who follow them around. You just don't see it. It's not the same thing when you're
04:34:12
Andrew Wilsonlooking at the social status. What is compelling all those women to [ __ ] the rock star? What is doing that? What is compelling those women to uh get a hold of the serial killer in prison and have
04:34:23
Andrew Wilsonsex with him? What what is the deal with this? Right? That is that is not a phenomenon which happens in reverse. It doesn't happen in reverse. Although uh I don't know. There's a lot of desperate
04:34:35
Andrew Wilsondudes though. Like the dudes who [ __ ] Bonnie Blue. Sick. Yeah, that's a fair comparison. Yeah, but it's not it's not impressive because any woman can go out tomorrow and be Bonnie Blue.
04:34:48
Andrew WilsonAny woman sitting at this table tomorrow can walk out in the middle of the street, hold up a sign, say, "Any man who wants to [ __ ] me right now can, and there's going to be an unlimited supply of men who are going to pull off." Blue
04:34:59
SPEAKER_05is revoling, but so are the men who who are engaging in that. They are revoling as well. Hang on. Hang on, lady. If a man goes out there and holds up a sign
04:35:07
Brian Atlasand says, "Hey, I'm open for business." Okay, he's going to go home real [ __ ] disappointed. That's just the truth. That is the truth. I have a really good test. I have a really good test for
04:35:19
Brian Atlasthis. Anya, who is a guy, maybe you can give us a male celebrity, who is like your celebrity crush who you just you really find super super attractive?
04:35:30
Brian AtlasMorgan Wallen. Um, and I'm sure he has a body count of a million. Morgan Wallen. But but so so so the question is, hold on. God damn.
04:35:42
Brian AtlasThe question is, if you knew that he had slept with a thousand women, but he wanted a long-term relationship with you and he was serious about you, whatever,
04:35:51
Brian Atlaswhatever kind of relationship dynamic you wanted, would you date him? Is he that the it's behind him?
04:36:02
Anya MatusevichI mean, yeah, I would still get I would if he if he said, "I'm done with this lifestyle. I'm done with, you know, sleeping around with tons and tons of women and I'm ready to commit to just to
04:36:13
Brian Atlasyou. Okay, sure. And then how about this? Uh, he's still actively kind of being promiscuous, but you get the opportunity to hook up with him. Do you do it? Probably not. I don't like a roster. You pass? Yeah. What do you
04:36:26
Brian Atlasmean? I don't like I don't have a roster. I don't like being on a roster. But there's no male celebrity you could think of like despite him being maybe promiscuous actively. Let's like remove like risk of STDs or whatever from this.
04:36:38
Anya MatusevichNo, you would. I think this leads to heartbreak because women sex formex for women is very different than schmecks for men and women get very attached. Are there any girls here who like your male celebrity crush, whoever you think is
04:36:51
Brian Atlaslike super attractive, maybe they're promiscuous, maybe they're not. Let's assume they are. Would you have a casual encounter with your, I don't know, the guy who you think is like the sexiest
04:37:01
Vanna Roseman in the world, whatever. Like for example, like like so let's say he was he was messing around still. Would I still do something
04:37:12
Brian Atlaswith him? Is that what you're asking? Sure. I mean if like I want Who's your here? Let's start with this. Who's your male celebrity crush? Um does somebody else can I'm sorry. Can
04:37:25
SPEAKER_05somebody else who can actually give me an answer? Just please give me an answer. I can try. Okay. So, my celebrity crush is Theo Vaughn, right? Okay. If he asked me out on a date, I would definitely go. And he's obviously
04:37:38
SPEAKER_05slept with thousands and thousands of women. But would I just have a casual um one night stand with him? Probably not, cuz I've never done anything like that before. Sure. But you don't rule him out as a potential partner. But just just so
04:37:50
SPEAKER_05I can get through this, what about you, Chloe? Um, literally Morgan Wallen is like like one of my biggest celebrity crushes. Okay. Would you? Um, but I
04:38:02
SPEAKER_05wouldn't sleep with him if I just met him. But I would if he wanted a long-term relationship like [ __ ] liar. You're a [ __ ] liar. All right. What about you? Um, I would say maybe
04:38:13
Pervin/PearlZack Efron. I would. Okay. Zack Efron. Yeah. Okay. What about you? Honestly, I can't think of anybody. Okay. What? Uh, what about you over
04:38:22
Pervin/Pearlhere? No, I wouldn't because Well, hypothetically if What was that? Hypothetically, if you weren't No, hypothetically, I wouldn't. Even if I was single, I don't I find it
04:38:33
Pervin/Pearlmeaningless to have casual sex. Okay. What about would you Okay. What about a date? Would you go on a date with him? No. Because your celebrity crush No, because if I if
04:38:45
Pervin/Pearlthere is no intention or purpose behind that date, I wouldn't No, there's an intention. He's He's willing to date you. Okay. Yeah. If it's going to lead into something more with purpose and like commitment, what if your celebrity
04:38:57
Pervin/Pearlcrush had slept with a thousand women before though? It would definitely be in the back of my mind, but I don't think it would be equal to what a guy's perspective would be towards women.
04:39:10
Brian AtlasOkay. So, the point I was trying to make here is, at least for me, you could present to me whatever the most attractive woman I've ever seen, if I know, even for a casual encounter or long-term, if I know that she's actively
04:39:23
Brian Atlaspromiscuous, it's 100% a dealbreaker. If she [ __ ] a dude last night, I don't care how hot she is. For me, it's a wrap. It's over. Don't care how hot she is. Don't care
04:39:34
Brian Atlashow outside of my league she is. Don't care. She [ __ ] another dude last night. Not interested. If she's got a high body count, not interested. It's just 100% a deal breaker for men. Well,
04:39:45
Brian Atlasexcuse me. I shouldn't say for you. It's for me. For me, it's 100% a dealbreaker. Don't care how hot she is. Don't want to have sex with her once. Don't want to friends with benefits. Don't want a relationship. Don't want anything with a
04:39:58
Vanna Rosegirl who's currently actively [ __ ] other men or has a past of promiscuity. Well, let's say like is someone like for example how you guys were talking about how if a guy like wanted to change his ways like let's say a girl when she was
04:40:10
Vanna Roseyounger and dumb or whatever was doing a bunch of stuff like and they didn't want to be like that anymore you would say that that would affect it like completely like you want to give them like any benefit of the doubt like yeah the million that's the million-dollar
04:40:22
Andrew Wilsonquestion right you really you finally kind of kind of hit on the thing we're getting at here so I think that all of you basically said you know if it came to my celebrity crush and they're reformed. I would still go on a date
04:40:35
Andrew Wilsonwith him, you know, and maybe if if if things went well, you know, yeah, I would definitely settle down with a guy, maybe he's a really good guy, something like this. For a lot of men, it's a complete disqualifier immediately,
04:40:46
Andrew Wilsonright? Even your past still remains with you. There's a lot of this that happens where women will move over to the Christian church, right, after having a uh love life filled with threesomes and
04:40:59
Andrew Wilsonevery horrible thing in the world. And they should, right? they should come into Christ. I agree with that. But it doesn't erase their past. You don't get to buy a new reputation. So, a lot of them think that they deserve to have men who are extremely high quality even
04:41:11
Andrew Wilsonthough they have that past. And well, they don't. Men still have a preference against that. They're like, "Well, you know, you did [ __ ] 300 guys and uh I'm going to, you know, take a hard pass on
04:41:22
Andrew Wilsonthat or uh you know, even 20 or 15 or 10, you know, and uh the reason for that is because exponentially it makes them feel like they're not special really.
04:41:33
Andrew WilsonYou think about it. What isn't that really what they would feel like? Like, oh, okay. Well, yeah, I have you, but so did [ __ ] half the block, right? They wouldn't Why would Why would it make them feel good about themselves, right?
04:41:45
Anya MatusevichThat's not an accomplishment, right? When when you mentioned groupies, not as a I'm not saying you were using it to justify it, but when you mentioned groupies as a example of kind of how
04:41:56
Anya Matusevichthis dynamic works, I don't I don't think just because it happens that it's okay. Um, and I think it's also just a product of dating culture.
04:42:08
Andrew WilsonWell, look, I agree. I don't I don't think male pro promiscuity is good. I don't think female promiscuity is good. So, we're on the same page about it on on Yeah, on both on both fronts. I think both are bad. I'm not I'm not in the
04:42:20
Andrew Wilsonsame camp as a lot of uh different people are. I think it's bad for men generally to be promiscuous, but I also understand social dynamics. And while I can say both things are bad, I can
04:42:32
Andrew Wilsonclearly tell that women care way less about it than men do. And if that's the case, then that needs to be taken into account in the dating scene, right? It really does because what happens is
04:42:42
Vanna Rosewomen limit their prospects later for fun now. I feel like Yeah. And if that's like something that someone wants, I feel like there shouldn't be a problem in it looking cuz you know everybody like when you're looking for somebody that you want to be with like you obviously everyone's going to have
04:42:55
Vanna Rosecertain standards. So I feel like if that's just what somebody wants to hold a standard to, then I would say that that is their right to do so. you know, some people are different, but I feel like that that is completely like
04:43:08
Vanna Roseunderstandable if that's something like in their future like where they know like they're going to spend the rest of their life with this person. If that's something that they wanted to have in a woman, then I feel like that could that should be respected because there is a
04:43:21
Andrew Wilsonmillion different people. The thing that's funny about all this is like I know I can tell you how history is going to go. I like in a crystal ball right now. I'll tell you exactly how it's
04:43:30
Andrew Wilsongoing to go. You can imagine that men, let's just say men magically tomorrow had access to the NFL in mass. They could all just go play for the NFL
04:43:42
Andrew Wilsonwhenever they, you know, basically any of them could just go do that. A lot of them would go do that and they would get brain damage. They would get [ __ ] up. They get all kinds of messed up going and playing in the NFL, right? But when they were young, they wouldn't care
04:43:53
Andrew Wilsonbecause they'd be making a bunch of that NFL money. They wouldn't care. They wouldn't think about the stage two, stage three of life. they would only think about that stage one. What we're seeing right now is the phenomenon of
04:44:05
Andrew Wilsonwomen in the same exact uh mindset. They can all join the NFL. They can all join of and be part of that sexual elite and
04:44:14
Andrew Wilsonmake that big bag of cash. Easy money, right? But that's only stage one. What happens when he gets a stage two and stage three? Well, the boxers, men who box, they get brain damage. They get
04:44:27
Andrew Wilsonmessed up. They have all sorts of consequences. men in the NFL, all sorts of consequences. Men who do these things end up with severe damage in exchange for that money. Same shit's going to happen to all these only defense girls. Same stuff. They're not preparing for
04:44:41
Andrew Wilsonthe future. They're not preparing for the future uh them. They're only preparing for the right now them. And you can imagine the damage that would do to men if they had that kind of access. But for some reason, women don't even think about the amount of damage they're
04:44:54
Andrew Wilsondoing to themselves. Well, then you've got to blame the men in a way because they're the ones who are paying for it. You got to just let him finish his thought before you Yeah. You're going to run in you're going to run into stage two of life and you're not there yet. And when you get there, you're going to
04:45:05
Andrew Wilsonrealize that oh [ __ ] there's a heavy heavy price and a heavy toll to be paid uh for the bag. Now I I'm not any funds. Okay. Um chair one, you're in the corn
04:45:17
Brian Atlasbusiness. Most men in the corn business have to start with corning men. So would you be exclusive with a guy with a higher body count than men? Why was just making money like you? Thank you, Zach, for the super chat. Would
04:45:29
Anya MatusevichI be exclusive with a guy with a higher body count than women? Um, that I think that's presupposing that I have a high body count just because I'm in the corn
04:45:39
Brian Atlasindustry. Um, I don't. Um, well, he's also saying that often men I mean, this is like in the traditional adult entertainment industry that they start