DEBATE w/ WOKE Feminist College Girls! Charlie Kirk HATER?! ANTI-TRAD Boss Babe?! | Dating Talk #263

Date: 2025-10-06

Duration: 7h 17m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDaniela (DT260)>

KKatie (Cashier)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Katie (Cashier)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Kira(guest)

SPEAKER_04Love(guest)

SPEAKER_05Cody(guest)

SPEAKER_06Shona (DT260)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Bella (Econ)(guest)

SPEAKER_09Mari(guest)

SPEAKER_10Swanie(guest)

SPEAKER_11Daniela (DT260)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 9 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentShona requests Charlie Kirk discussion; debates his rhetoric with Brian

ControversyBrian confronts Swanie/Mari about intoxication; Mari admits weed; red card issued

QuoteSwanie discloses body count ~400

Key MomentShona declines billionaire trade-off: wants to earn own career as psychiatrist

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

9 guests including 4 UCSB students.

Charlie Kirk Discussion

Shona requested topic. Debate on his rhetoric, Islamophobia, gun control.

Immigration Debate

Wide-ranging: ICE, family separation, Mexican constitutional law.

Traditional Gender Roles/Bowing

Brian shows bow video. Most refuse. Extended chivalry debate.

Trump SA Allegations

Swanie mentions Trump's record. Extended debate on presumption of innocence.

Weed Incident

Brian confronts Swanie and Mari about intoxication. Mari admits smoking weed. Red card.

Body Count Round

Shona 0, Daniela 0, Swanie ~400, Katie 3, Bella 1.

Billionaire Trade-Off

Would you accept billionaire husband if condition is never working?

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> Yes. That's >> when you do you say drained. You mean money? >> Damn. You research research. >> It's on your Instagram. I look at people's stuff. >> I know, but you got to click on >> I prepare for these podcasts. Uh when you say drain because these find >> Oh, yeah. You drain. Yeah.

Mari>> Drain the money. >> Yeah. Drain the money. >> Okay. the finum stuff. Uh, >> and then goddess is like they worship you, so they just want to like >> worship. Okay. >> Okay. Um,

Brian Atlas>> you're welcome. When >> you said you do hardcore porn? >> No, I No, no, I don't. Did I say that >> you on your little on your I think it's

Mariyour OF. It says amateur sex with BBC. >> Okay. Yeah, amateur is not hardcore porn. Amateur is like is like brand new. It's like it's like from record from the phone.

Mari>> Well, hardcore just means like the you see the penetrative sex. >> Oh, I thought hardcore was like you're in an industry. You're in like all like all that. >> That would just be that'd be like mainstream porn. But you said okay.

Shona (DT260)Amateur sex with BBC. Can just >> Yeah, but that was when I was younger. >> Do you want to share what that what is BBC? >> Um >> isn't it isn't it like a drink like

Brian Atlasbuzzball beatbox? No, I think it's the British British Broadcasting Channel. >> Oh, that's Yeah, it is. >> What is it? What is it? >> It is. It is. >> What does it mean? Tell us what it means.

Mari>> Don't be mean. >> I wasn't being mean. I was also laughing. >> I do not know. You're good. You're good. >> Okay. Um >> um Big Black C. >> Thank Okay. We >> imaginations. I hope you guys

Mariimaginations. You also do you do girl on girl threesomes >> but the yeah this was literally my OAF is more curated to when I was younger. >> Um that sounds crazy but when I was like

Brian AtlasI'm 24 right now. >> Um but moving on to this. You said modern dating is not the best right now. You don't believe most men know how to properly treat women? >> Yes. >> Do you think most women know how to properly treat men?

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Yes. Women do. No men don't. Okay. What does it mean to properly treat a woman? Like what does that mean? >> Um >> all the traditional stuff we were talking about before. >> Yeah. Yeah. Very tra Yeah. Yeah. Like opening the door like that.

Brian Atlas>> Do you think you deserve traditional treatment? >> Um honestly, yeah. >> Just to be clear, I don't think >> Wait, are you going to give me your >> I don't think anybody should be mistreated, but I mean, >> you're not a traditional woman. You do sex work.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Yeah, I get that. >> There's videos of you online. >> I knew you were going to go to this. >> And so, you should still be treated well by whoever you date. Although I'd question if you tend you have a tendency

Brian Atlasto choose men who are let's just say not suited well for you. Uh but I don't know if >> but yeah that ex passed that's the ex that passed away.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. But I again I'm just like if you're a sex worker can you really demand >> I don't do that. I have a regular job

Maritoo. >> Yeah. But there's like videos of you BBC BBC videos. >> Kim Kardashian >> BBC. It's on your Twitter regrettably though. I can't believe I >> It's not on my Twitter. Oh, yeah. But it's But it but it's not.

Mari>> You should You should put a disclaimer. >> It's blocked. >> You should put a disclaimer. >> There is a disclaimer. You have to have that your thing is on Twitter. You have to have that your AT&T plus is on on.

Brian AtlasThat means yours is on. So congratulations. You watch porn on Twitter. I look at people's social media accounts and I was like, "Okay, does she have any like hot dating takes on her

Brian AtlasTwitter?" It's like, "Oh, okay. >> BBC video. Cool. >> I don't know. Let me go through my socials." >> Uh, okay. So, you also you think a lot of men use their testosterone level?

Mari>> Yeah, how I was talking about that. Yeah, that >> whatever. >> Cuz I Oh my god, I went on fresh and fit. I brought you up. >> Okay, cool. I guess >> I I didn't know. >> Didn't know what

Mari>> I just didn't know that like you guys were like I don't know. But it doesn't matter. But yeah, it was so weird. Um >> whatever. >> But no, can I tell you something? The producer got mad at me because I went to

Marium Miami and um I didn't tell him and now I'm not like back allowed on there. >> Thank you for Thank you for sharing. Appreciate it. Yeah. >> I'm sorry. Did that hit a nerve?

Brian Atlasbalance on her forehead. >> Don't make me do it, Brian. >> No, I'm not. Excuse me. We're not going to do that. But um >> Oh my gosh.

Brian Atlas>> She's so peace. All scream on the count of three. This is literally open. >> What the [ __ ] What? By the way, for the

Brian Atlasother women here who are sober, um this is not the normal usual Oh, hi. Not the normal, you know, people are typically not passing out uh on the whatever

Brian Atlaspodcast, but uh just, you know, little interesting panel tonight. Okay. Uh let's see if there were any other notes we have. Let's see.

Brian AtlasThere's more for from you, but uh let's see. >> Yeah, you're really Christian. >> Uh

Brian Atlaslet's see. Did her Sorry. One sec, guys, while I'm just letting these come through. Cody not here. Uh, did Bella's notes on Katie's notes, Daniellea's notes,

Brian Atlasuh, Kira's notes. I mean, there's mostly just you. What we're going to do, honestly, guys, we're going to we're going to do a roast session. So,

Brian Atlas$69 TTS. If you guys want to get a roast in $69 TTS, if you guys want to get a roast in, we're going to do that and

Brian Atlasthen uh try to uh try to wrap here pretty soon. Um so, one sec, guys.

Brian Atlas>> Y'all got energy drinks. >> Uh we do we do have I mean it's tail ends of the show.

Brian Atlas>> That's one earlier. So, uh, yeah, Uno Momento Porf. All right, guys. TTS69, if you want to get it in. One sec.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, any fun, any like thoughts from any of the panelists? Any topic that you want to hit on tonight that maybe we didn't? Any thoughts from anybody?

Swanie>> Stop saying I'm intoxicated because I don't want to talk if you keep saying that. Yeah, >> especially if I'm shy, don't for me at least. >> Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> Nothing. Shauna Sha >> Shaa >> Shaa, I'm sorry. >> What? >> Final final uh final thing. Any topics you wanted to hit on?

Brian Atlas>> Thank you for having me on here. We're not wrapping yet, by the way. But, uh, final. Nobody. Okay, then I'll just uh hold on. I need to adjust the things. Um, hold on.

Brian AtlasUh, does anybody here think that

Brian Atlasuh can women be sexist towards men? Starting with you?

Shona (DT260)I mean, not like heck >> yeah. Thanks. >> Sure. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Okay. What do you think? Can women be sexist towards men? >> Yeah.

Love>> Okay. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. Yes.

Swanie>> Oh, it's my turn. Um, hi Keem. Yes. >> How about this? Do you um I'll just move on then. Um,

Brian Atlas>> do women have equal rights to men in the USA? >> Just because we were talking about feminism before. I feel like it's interesting. Starting with you. >> Sorry, what was the question I was reading?

Shona (DT260)>> Uh, oh. Do women have equal rights to men in the USA? >> Like on an institutional legal level? Yes. >> Okay. On some other level, no. >> Like society, some people have their like prejudices and judgments towards

Brian Atlaswomen, but >> well, this would ex uh exist >> rights. So, >> right. But that that would exist towards men, too. >> Sure. Yeah. >> What do you think? >> For the most part, yeah. >> Do women do women have equal rights to

Daniela (DT260)men? >> Well, don't um they still get paid less some places or some jobs or I don't know. Uh I mean there is some debate over the wage gap. I personally everything I've

Brian Atlaslooked into the wage gap doesn't actually exist and I we won't linger on the wage gap long but my argument would be simply this. If well I have a couple of different arguments. If you control for

Brian Atlasall the different variables so the wage gap that's often cited women make 83 cents to the dollar that the man makes. That doesn't typically when you're going to present a statistic, you want to

Brian Atlascontrol for variables. So that statistic that's presented, it doesn't account for the fact that men and women have different jobs. Men work more hours. Men are more likely to relocate. Men are more likely to work overtime. Men are

Brian Atlasmore likely to work dangerous, haz hazardous, dirty jobs, which tend to be uh well compensated or can be well compensated. Uh it doesn't take into account the types of different fields

Brian Atlasthat men are willing to go in. uh interest, this sort of thing, seniority, this sort of thing. So men, for example, just the most obvious one, men just work more hours than women.

Brian AtlasSo even comparing for full-time workers, men are more work more hours. But my two arguments, it's a dating podcast, I'll relate it to dating, is

Brian Atlasuh if 30 40 50% of women want men to pay for first dates and then perhaps a smaller proportion want men to be providers

Brian Atlasand there's not a reciprocal pressure that exists on women to pay for dates, to be providers. This would create a massive mating

Brian Atlaspressure, social pressure that's going one direction to men that doesn't really ever go in the reverse. So

Brian Atlasif women by their own behavior and their own conduct say men should pay for me then I would

Brian Atlassay that men are going to be more just men are very motivated by wanting to have romant romantic prospects with women and they're also I mean on a lower

Brian Atlasbase level they want to have sex and if it's like can't have sex or can't get girlfriend or can't get relationship because I can't

Brian Atlasafford to pay her for the first date. That's massive motivation that men experience that. Hold on. Stop. Stop. Stop back there. Stop back there. Stop. Stop. Mary, stop.

Brian Atlas>> I'm sitting. >> Oh, I don't know what there was. Okay, never mind then. I don't know if there was some other communication going on or whatever. Um, I was just confused cuz you were >> you just kind of pointed this direction. I wasn't sure why.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, okay. Never mind. It's not a big thing. Um, it would occur to me that women's own traditional gender expectations of men would actually be what causes the wage

Brian Atlasgap. Men are more motivated to make money than women are. Simply put,

Brian Atlaslike I realize as a man that women assess me. Uh, I know, look, some of you in college, you probably don't give a Those of you in college probably don't care all that much about money, but once you get into your mid20s,

Brian Atlas>> now's the time to care. Student debt, literally the time to care. >> Looking for jobs and times. >> What I what I mean by that is in terms of like the guys you're looking to date,

Brian Atlasmost college guys are not. Maybe they don't have a job. Like you're not really looking to a guy in college to be a provider, right? So, but as you do get

Brian Atlasolder, 20s, >> mid20s, late 20s, 30s, >> it becomes more part of the calculus. So, women's own dating preferences, I

Brian Atlasthink, would and by the way, there is no wage gap, but if it did exist, it would be explained away by women's own gender expectations of men. I think it also has to do with the fact that men are physically more capable to work longer

Shona (DT260)hours, especially when you look at jobs that require like physical labor and like construction work and all that kind of thing. >> Well, yeah. And men are just physically stronger than women, >> which does help you and give you an advantage when it comes to working

Brian Atlaslonger hours. But that's not me asserting that there is a wage gap. >> Well, yeah, but I mean most I would argue a lot of I I mean sure. Oh, can he's in the chat, I think. I don't know

Brian Atlasif that's the same guy. What's up, man? Thank you for the chat. Um, I mean, a lot of high-paying jobs now are not typically, they can be, but mo

Shona (DT260)most high-paying jobs are actually not exclusively of a physical nature. >> But I'd say majority of jobs that exist are not highpaying, right? >> Sure. Yeah. And I feel like majority of jobs like

Shona (DT260)when you look at like jobs that don't pay as well require some kind of like physical labor or ability compared to like the higher the higher paying the job like the generally it can be

Brian Atlasactually like more chill and like laid-back than having to like use like physical labor because that's not like an intellectual skill that requires like >> a degree and things like that. >> Sure. Yeah. But the wage gap stuff isn't

Brian Atlassuper interesting for me. Um let's see. Hold on. Let me see if there I need to check the chats here. Roast session, guys. Roast session. Then we're going to get this wrapped up. Hold on. Let me make sure.

Brian Atlas>> Love me a roast session. >> Roast. Roast away, boys. Hold on. I need to fix this.

Brian AtlasOh, you know what we forgot to do? Um, there's another question I wanted to ask. Is it wrong for a man to care about the

Brian Atlaswoman's past? So like body count. >> No. No. No. >> No. >> Yes and no.

Brian Atlas>> Yes or no? What do you think? >> No. No. I care about man's past. >> What do you think? >> No. >> Okay. Qu the question we always ask. What's your body count? >> Zero. >> Zero. I think she was zero too.

Brian Atlas>> Five. >> Five. >> Do I have to answer that? >> Yes, >> I have to. You have to >> always make >> We're homies, right? >> Homies. >> Are you my homie? >> That's a strong term. >> This is our first time meeting.

Brian Atlas>> I know. I already feel the homies. >> Oh, really? Okay. >> Yeah, we're homies. >> Maybe. Maybe. >> We're bffs. >> BFFs? >> Yes. >> I think Shoot it out. Shoot it out. >> I'll give you a range. It's five.

Swanie>> Okay. What about you, Kira? >> Less than five. >> Okay. What about you, >> Brian? Will you forgive me after all of this? Uh, revealing the body count would do

Swanieyou favors, I guess. Sure. >> Triple digits. How about that? >> Okay. Um, do you have a sense like 100, 200, 300? >> Um, could possibly be more, but I'm an

Swanieexpositionist, so >> you like to go to expose? >> No, I'm an expositionist. >> Exhibitionist? >> Yeah. >> Um, >> what is that? >> She'd

Brian Atlas>> I like to be naked. Like where? Like in public? Literally anywhere? Because honestly, yeah. It's a form of beauty. >> Um Okay. But do you think it's potentially quad digits or No.

Brian Atlas>> Quad digits. >> Uh over a thousand. >> No. No. Not over a thousand. >> But so when you say triple digits, is it closer to 100? Closer to 900? Like where 500? Where do you think it falls?

Swanie>> Between >> ballpark. I would say between 400. There's some people that I don't want to remember being intimate with, but

Swanie>> yeah. >> All right. 400. All right. Good times. Good times. >> Not too proud, but I mean, hey, >> Bellington about you. >> Bellington. >> Bellington. Yeah, that's >> one. >> One. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> One. >> Felicity. >> Three. >> Okay. And those were, I guess, all your boyfriends. Okay, cool. Uh, there it is. There's that. Uh, hold on. Where's the

Brian AtlasOne sec. Ah, [ __ ] We have some roasts coming through, guys. Uh oh. >> Careful. Okay, let's see here. Did this

SPEAKER_00get fixed? There we go. Uh, >> your XD donated $69. >> Brian Sher one clearly has a crush on you. >> Why you got to hate on her eyebrows, brother?

SPEAKER_00>> I wasn't hating on her eyebrows. Oh my god. brows when she was younger. I think she's into you arguing politics. >> Okay. Uh, thank you, Chaw. Thank you.

MariUm, thank you for the message. >> I think they got past that now. They made up. Brian needs to go to the dark side. >> Yeah, I agree. >> 69.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, it's it's fine. >> I don't have a push on Brian. >> Okay, Felicity, you [ __ ] bait her. I'm just >> you bait. You're baiting. Um

SPEAKER_00>> messing with you guys. >> It is documented. We have this one. >> Pasty George donated $70. It is a documented fact that women take more

SPEAKER_00sick days than men, including mental health leave. Meanwhile, men only take sick days if they are either bedridden with a serious illness or near death.

Brian Atlas>> That is that is another point. women do take more uh sick days, ask for more time off. Uh >> I mean, if you take into account that we

Swaniehave periods and they're very brutal, like I feel like we should at least have a day off for that. >> But if you're like a a ruthless [ __ ]

Brian Atlascapitalist, you're just and it's like you just want to make money for your business. It's like, well, >> but the business should care about its

Brian Atlasemployees. >> Mhm. >> But I mean, women can still work even while they're menrating. >> Is that the right word? >> Yes. >> Thank you.

Brian Atlas>> Some of them are really >> Look, yeah, some women have really bad uh, you know, >> uh, period cramps and absolutely totally

SPEAKER_00totally true. Um, okay. We have Desert Jorge. Desert Horge donated $69. Is anyone on the panel still awake asking for a friend? And as always,

Brian Atlasshout out to my homies in the Discord chat. >> Yo. Hey. Uh, by the way, Nick, could you check for the gender swap? But >> wake us up. >> You know, Desert Jorge, this is why the wage gap exists, >> bro. >> That's why the wage gap exists because,

Swanieyou know, >> I'm good for another [ __ ] I'll go for another three hours. I'm good. >> I can go for another three hours. Oh, Sean, I'm not sure about that. You were passing. I was sleeping earlier, but she got she got a nap, though. She got a power nap, so she's I got energy shot.

Brian AtlasI'm good. >> True, true. >> Uh, okay. We do a segment called Remove Your Makeup. Who's down? Who will take off their makeup? >> I can take off my makeup. >> Will you take the eyelashes? Will you

Brian Atlasgift me your eyelashes? I want to I want them as a trophy. I'm going to put them on my bookshelf back here. Oh [ __ ] Holy [ __ ] Does anybody have a glove? >> Oh my god.

Brian Atlas>> Can you give me a glove? >> I'm clean, Brian. No, I just because I'm triple dishes doesn't mean anything. >> No, no, you're there's Yeah, obviously your fake lashes don't have like an STD

Marior something, but it's it's just >> I don't Here. Um Well, makeup makeup >> a glow. >> Oh, I was joking about here. I'll take it though.

Mari>> Just be clear. I >> scene chat. You know that scene from F? I've been breaking out. So, I'm sorry. This is terrible. >> These are terrible makeup wipes. So, he's going to make us break it out.

SwanieBreak out even more. So, >> yes. Place it in my palm. >> You're very welcome. >> Wow. That here. Should I just >> Okay, now this is getting fun. >> I got two. >> Oh,

Mari>> this is like This is like Costco. >> Wait, put it put it on me now. >> All right. Just let me know when to remove the makeup. >> Wait, hold on. Let me >> Is this the X your wipes used to make like use? Brian,

SPEAKER_12>> put them on. >> He's not listening to me. Can you grab him? My hand. >> He's clueless. >> And do them. He's into the lashes. >> This is so weird. >> Oh my god. I almost fell into my

Brian Atlas>> so beautiful with lashes. Like this is >> my eyelashes already long. They're not. >> Oh wow. Okay. Sona's like, "Your eye your eyelashes, aren't I?

Brian Atlas>> My name is She's right. Sorry. Do you want to call me Briana to as like revenge? Just call me Briana. Call me Banna. It's okay. All right, never mind.

Brian Atlas>> Um, she she doesn't think I think I have long eyelashes. Rude. You know what? That's that's her revenge. >> That's her revenge. He's like, "You know what, Brian? You made a comment. I'm going to make a comment. Your eyelashes

Brian Atlasare not >> Is this a new segment?" >> You're It is. It is a new segment. >> This is crazy. >> What What's crazy about it? >> I don't know. >> Yeah. Do I have to take those out, too? No. >> Yes. And you have to eat them

SPEAKER_12afterwards. >> Actually, will you do it? >> No. But I'll take them out. >> Take them out >> if you want to see the real me. >> Yeah. Those are like demon contacts. Those are demon contacts.

SPEAKER_12>> Your lashes were so luscious. I didn't even notice. >> Okay. Oh my gosh. >> I'm getting I'm ready for bed now. My makeup's off.

Brian Atlas>> You smell. >> Thank you. I breaking out. Love it. $600 TTS. Get it in. Get it in, boys. Get it in. >> Uh there's some more notes from

Brian Atlas>> I'm gonna have to put my makeup on. >> From my girl uh S over here. >> Sorry. >> Shaa. >> Huh? >> Shona, >> you said it. What the [ __ ] Felicity? Get her name right. >> I said Shona.

SPEAKER_00>> No, it's okay. That's so It's hard to It's hard to pronounce. Shaa. I said it right. >> Hasty George donated $70. Women who take sick days for painful menstruation

SPEAKER_00cycles are understandable, but taking sick days for mental health reasons. >> A man trying to claim that would be laughed at and then told to get to work? >> No. If anyone's like clinically depressed or not mentally fit to work,

Brian Atlasthey should have >> Wait, so um can can uh those of you who took your makeup off, can you just hold it up to the camera like like this? >> I'm pretty sure one of my contacts slid back into my eye, but

Brian Atlas>> Oh [ __ ] you're going to die. No, I'm not going to die. I'm just going to lose. >> I wear contacts. >> That's crazy. >> Come forward >> one eventually. >> But just come out.

Brian Atlas>> You're good. You're fine. >> All right. This is the real me, guys. >> Love it. >> Gorgeous. >> I look better than >> You earned every single one of those

Swanie>> 700, sorry. Um 400 bodies. >> Every single one. You earned it. >> Slay queen. Oh, your skin is actually >> I was thinking you were going to say compliments, but thank you. >> I love your double AK.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, you noticed that >> tattoos. >> Oh, yeah. Impulse. Thank you. >> Double AK. >> Yes. >> Let's go. I like No, it's cool. Uh,

Brian Atlasokay. You know what? Uh, we have my girl S over here. She wanted to Um, >> I wanted to What? >> Are you coming back for Andrew? Am I? >> I I'm down to have you. I thought you were great.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, fine. Yeah, sure. >> Okay, because we won't get through all your notes, but maybe we'll do one la one or two last things, then we'll you'll be like the final person because you had so many notes. >> Uh, let's see.

Shona (DT260)>> I thought everyone would. >> You just were very thorough. >> You asked for You asked me to like expand. So, >> yeah, trying to give you Okay.

Brian AtlasYou said you disagree with the hate that only fans models get. I don't know. The of combo is kind of boring, but really quick, why is that? >> I just think like ultimately like men

Shona (DT260)sexualize women in society. A woman decides that it's it's her personal choice. She wants to profit off of that, earn money from that. And I think like >> there's nothing necessarily wrong with

Brian Atlasthat and that woman shouldn't be stigmatized or put down for that. >> Uh or you can go ahead go ahead. I thought you just going back there to whatever. Uh, okay. I mean, would you

Brian Atlasdate a guy who watches porn or subscribe to an OF? >> No. >> Okay. Why is that? Like, is it bad? >> Because I wouldn't want my men looking at other women. >> Okay. But, and I agree like I think in a relationship it's really bad to watch

Shona (DT260)porn. >> Yeah. Personally, like when it comes to >> or even in general >> I mean Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. I was just going to say like when it comes to my values like around like sexuality, sex, like all that like I'm personally like

Shona (DT260)>> very conservative with it like in my own life. But if someone else chooses to not be that way then I don't take issue with that at all and I don't think it's like

Brian Atlassomething that should be hated on. But I mean what do you think it would be good though like if we were to tell women like

Brian Atlasshould they get involved in sex work? Do you think we can make any prescriptive suggestions as to what women should do? Like would you want your own daughter to do sex? >> I would not want my I don't I think like

Shona (DT260)even sex workers themselves they say like oh this industry has many pawns and like drawbacks to it and that it would not be recommended for anyone. >> So I personally wouldn't want my daughter to do that. But again, like if

Shona (DT260)a woman, some other woman chooses she wants to do that and she makes a living off of that and that works for her, then I think that's fine. >> Wait, you said you were Hindu. >> Mhm. >> Do you guys believe in reincarnation?

Mari>> Yeah. >> So when it comes to sex work, it's all about showing your physical body and you're re reincarnating without that physical body. So why should it matter?

Shona (DT260)>> What? >> I wasn't aware that's how my religion worked. But no. Um, if like >> the whole thing with like reincarnation, >> you're not reincarnating to the same body.

Mari>> So, are you saying that I like I'm going to be reincarnated as a sex worker? >> No. No, no. I'm saying that like right now in this lifetime, if you're a sex worker right now and you believe that you're reincarn reincarnating into

Marianother lifetime, >> you're not going to go into the with like that >> the same body that I >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So like I feel like I don't know it just doesn't matter as much when you're when you care about your soul more.

Swanie>> In this lifetime I'm still going to treat my human body like with the respect I think it deserves. >> Yeah. I do have a question. So if you're Hindu why do you wear a cross? >> There it is.

Brian Atlas>> It's a stylistic choice. >> She likes the aesthetic aesthetics. >> That's valid. I like your answer. >> She likes the aesthetics of it. Um, and hey, it's a good it's good uh good aesthetics, you know. Uh, okay guys,

Brian Atlaswe're actually lowering the the roast session to 30. We're going to and then that's what we're capping off the show with. We'll do a 10-minute roast session, then we're going to get this wrapped. So, if you guys want $30 TTS

Brian Atlasroast, get it in. Get it in. >> Take your makeup off. >> Um, and yeah, >> chopped, bro. >> No, I have to put my makeup on. >> You are a 10 out of 10. What was the

Brian Atlaspoint of taking a strong makeup >> and not sleepy anymore? >> Oh, great. Right before we end the show. That >> good timing. >> Just need a little nap.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, okay, guys. $30 TTS if you want to get a roast in. $30 TTS. And I mean, I guess my objections is

Brian Atlasuh I think you would approach adult content from both angles. you reduce the supply and you reduce the demand. So, we need to put messaging programming out there. Uh, and women can

Brian Atlasdo a really good job at this. I mean, and I think it's a lot of women's stated preferences of I don't want to date a guy who watches porn. That's pathetic. I don't want to date a guy who subs to OF

Brian Atlasgirls. That's pathetic. So, it can be like w uh women sort of creating the social paradigm where this is like just unacceptable for men to do. But also, I

Shona (DT260)think we can just say probably shouldn't be producing it also and cut it off on both fronts. >> I mean, again, like if someone makes the individual choice of wanting to put

Shona (DT260)sexual content out there and someone makes the choice of wanting to watch it, I I don't take issue with that. Like that's just like a difference in values around sex. And I think everyone's

Brian Atlasentitled to have different values around sex. But if you want to find high virtue men, like we need to create

Brian Atlasa culture where this is something that's shamed like absent like criminalizing either the consumption of porn or the creation of porn. The only mechanism we

Brian Atlashave to change society would I suppose be through shame. In addition to shame, also saying here's the better uh

Shona (DT260)paradigm of how society should be. >> The high virtue man I want knows that that content is out there and still chooses to not consume it. >> Which like these men are very much real

Brian Atlasnormal men. Like not every man is like a degenerate who's addicted to porn. >> Sure. Even though their pornography exists, there's absolutely men despite the supply being there. They're still not going to consume. And instead of like cutting off the supply, I would rather just have the trust in the man

Shona (DT260)that he >> I think we should do both. Men should be proactive and say I'm not going to consume this content >> and women should not participate in the production of said content. >> But like I don't dictate other people's

Brian Atlaschoices based on what's going to work for me eventually. >> You vote on laws and >> I wish I could vote on >> and you could you could shame people. Shame is super effective. >> I don't like to shame people unless they're actively causing people harm.

Shona (DT260)It's never going to be that way. >> Harms harms themselves and it harms society. >> I think Sophie Reigns earning millions of dollars a year living perfectly well. I don't think she's harming herself.

Brian Atlas>> Well, I mean, there's varying degrees of sex work, but uh >> Oh, >> well, it's uh you have to Stream Labs. You got to do Streamlabs. Um I'm sorry. Send it through Streamlabs. I apologize, but we can't do supers right now. I just

Brian Atlasbelieve in like not asserting my individual ways of living onto others, which is like my overall principle behind believing that. >> I mean, this you referenced Sophie Rain. Yeah, she's made tens of millions of dollars. Maybe a lot of women would do

Brian Atlasthat trade. >> Um, and to be charitable, I don't think she's doing like super insane hardcore stuff is my understanding. I mean, what she claims and what is actually true,

Brian AtlasI'm not entirely sure, but um she says I think that she's just doing solo stuff, >> which it's still sex work. I'm prepared to say it's obviously not as bad as like

Shona (DT260)[ __ ] hardcore orgies and this sort of thing or whatever, but what good? Look, I'm not even Christian, but I know this this uh >> I don't think it's adding to society

Brian Atlasnecessarily. I just believe in in people making their own individual. >> There is a again I'm not Christian but it it is compelling. What good does it what Hold on. >> Oh my god. Butchering it every time.

Brian Atlas>> Think hard about what you're >> What good does it gain? Oh my god. I'm actually I'm actually like cooked right now. >> It's a champagne. >> What? >> Maybe in the bathroom. >> What good does it do to gain the world

Brian Atlasif it's at the cost of your soul? So yeah, you could >> at the cost of your soul is >> Yeah, it's at the cost of your soul. >> It's very supernatural. >> Aren't you a uh what are you

Brian Atlas>> your I don't believe your soul suddenly disappears just cuz you >> put out are you Hindu or >> I'm Hindu. Yeah. >> I mean from like a so this is a a Christian biblical verse. Hinduism very liber like

Brian Atlas>> but from the Christian perspective uh lust and that would that would include like inducing people to lust is a sin. So from the Christian perspective which

Brian Atlasis I cited to a Christian bib biblical verse this actually is completely coherent that if you do engage in lust then you have given up your soul.

Brian Atlas>> Okay that's the perspective >> damaged your soul or harmed your soul. Mhm. >> Yeah. >> So, >> and I say that as an agnostic, you know what I mean?

Shona (DT260)>> I mean, personally, in my own life, I I would rather like I don't I don't think being lustful is a good thing. I just don't think >> I don't think people should be ashamed for wanting to >> How long have you been like an agnostic

Brian Atlasfor your whole life? >> Pretty much. Yeah. >> I want to bring you a book. >> Okay. >> I was living bringing it to you. Ship it. Ship the book. I will appreciate it. I don't know. I would just say to any

Brian Atlaswomen watching who are >> Would you read it? >> Any women watching who are contemplating doing sex work, >> uh, your future husband and future children will not appreciate that there's naked photos of you out there on the internet.

Swanie>> But I'll say that. >> I have a question. What if they appreciate the fact that that sex work provided a roof over their heads, a bed for them to sleep, food on the table, and a whole

Brian Atlas>> usually they want to be part of it. So, >> well, the the vast majority of women on Only Fans make like 300 bucks or something a month. A lot of women, some Yeah, some women can make a bunch of money. A lot of women don't make a lot.

Brian AtlasUh, and that [ __ ] typically is forever out there. Internet's pretty much forever. And I would still say there's other ways to provide yourself. There's

Brian Atlasother ways to make money that don't include posting degenerate photos of yourself on the internet. >> I think if you're going to like

Brian Atlasstigmatize these women, just make sure to stigmatize the men who consume it and desperate just as much. >> Men, don't watch porn, you [ __ ] degenerates. or at least limit limit it to as much as

Brian Atlaspossible. Don't be a [ __ ] gooner. Like don't be a porn addict. I do think to be fair the um >> I think the

Brian Atlasuh it's a like unless a man is a porn addict, I do think the impact of like a man who moderately consumes porn is

Brian Atlasoverstated. Like again, my my own personal conduct, if I'm in a relationship with a woman, don't watch porn. I mean, if we're if

Brian Atlasshe's like on vacation and she's gone for like months, then maybe even then though, I'm typically not consuming porn. >> I think men sexualize women more than women sexualize themselves. >> Oh, yeah.

Shona (DT260)>> Wait, men sexualize women more? >> More than women sexualize themselves. >> That's debatable. >> Yep. It's called Yeah, >> I am cold. >> You're cold.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, you're not. >> Okay, final thing from our friend. We have You say women can be successful in both domestic and professional spheres and are not

Brian Atlasinferior to men in ways people say they are. Okay. >> I I just don't think >> I don't think we should view women as inferior. Um, there's obviously differences between men and women, >> but what >> I guess you say can be su Does anybody

Shona (DT260)want to else want to weigh in on this? Like >> you guys can >> and that just means women can like a woman can pursue the career she wants to pursue while also being present in the household and raising them.

Shona (DT260)>> Yeah. Yeah. Where I come from like like I see so many successful women with successful men raising their children and pulling together their incomes and like leading their child to also be very successful. But so I guess my question to you is >> it only helps the child's future

Shona (DT260)actually. >> Oh here's a good question. >> Two sources of income pulled together. >> Here's a good question. If remind me what you want to do for work. >> I want to go into medicine but ideally like psychiatry. >> Psychiatry. >> Yeah. But like some kind of doctor.

Brian Atlas>> If you were to meet a really successful guy, let's say he made a million dollars a year. This is really high income. That puts you well into the top 1% at that level of income. Even if you lived in like an the highest cost of living place

Brian Atlasin the United States, >> I'd still want to be a doctor >> is like maybe New York or Santa Barbara or Hawaii, something like this. You can absolutely you would never have to work another day in your life.

Brian Atlas>> If though, here's the I guess the trade-off. You can be with a man who makes a million dollars, but he would want you to not work and he would want

Shona (DT260)you to stay at home and raise the kids. I would choose to work because I want to be I want to pursue this like it's important to me to like help people. >> Well, you can help >> and also money like money >> otherwise but

Shona (DT260)>> I think you're able to do it to like a much larger degree on a larger scale >> through psychiatry. >> Yeah. >> Just >> mental health care >> giving people mindaltering drugs and >> curing clinical depression, anxiety,

Brian Atlassaving people's lives who could be suicidal and inatient care. You do think it's fair though like the modern uh psychiatric >> the dis disposition I I believe across the healthc care field not just

Brian Atlaspsychiatry >> but as it relates to certain things there's massive amounts of over medication unjustified medication of people um >> so that should mean there should be better psychiatrists then and I would I would want to go about it the right way in my own career

Brian Atlas>> that's a fair thing to say but I mean a psychiatrist is typically someone you go to specifically to receive psychiatric medication whereas You could be a psychologist. >> I think psychiatrists do more good than harm. Also, psychologists can prescribe

Brian Atlasmedication and they earn more money. >> I I'm pretty sure psychologists can't prescribe. >> They can't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Psychologists can't prescribe, >> right? Psychiatrists make more money because they're capable of prescribing medication. It's a typ It's obviously a

Marihigher level. I think it's Is it med school or is it something different for school? All they do is ask what's wrong with you and just keep giving you meds until like you're like a guinea pig. It's like the weirdest I think it's fair

Brian Atlasto say psychiatrists overall do more good than harm in this world. I disagree. >> I Okay, back to the point though is just to be clear. So if a guy who's a millionaire said >> Oh, this one's mine. Finished it. >> Whoa, I'm a narcissist now. Okay, sorry.

Brian Atlas>> Well, don't worry. Don't worry. Uh, a guy who's a millionaire. Hey, and you really like this guy and he's like, but look, you don't have to work. And knowing like obviously there's a concern like, okay, well, what if it doesn't work out? I should be able to, you know, be in a

Brian Atlasposition where I can take care of myself. Let's say in this hypo hypothetical situation, it's granted that he's a good guy. There's he's not gonna abuse you and he's gonna stay with you forever. >> I still want to work. >> Okay. Uh what about you? Would you meet

Brian Atlasa guy who makes a million dollars a year, but the trade-off is he doesn't want you working? Do you take that deal? >> Hello. >> Yeah. Sorry. No, I was

Love>> like if you added up half the show Stop. No. Because >> Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Yes. No. Yes. Yes. >> What about you? You take that deal >> cuz you're devil's advocate [ __ ] >> Honestly, I would. As much as I want to

Lovework, um >> I feel like if there's an opportunity where I didn't have to work, cuz I've been working my whole life, I'd take up that offer. >> It'd be nice, right? Not to have to work. What about you? You take that deal?

Brian Atlas>> Absolutely. I will. I also like I want to go into like a creative profession though and so I can just do it. Well, he would you would be able to pursue your creativity as a hobby, >> but he wouldn't want you to do it as a profession.

Brian Atlas>> That's fine. >> You're fine with it. Okay. What about you? >> I would make sure to marry old guy specifically so when he dies I can take all his money >> like a sugar daddy. >> Love it. Uh Bella, do you take that trade?

Brian Atlas>> You can be with a guy who makes a million dollars a year >> but not work at all. >> But the trade-off is doesn't want you to work, you don't work. I mean, yeah. >> You take that trade, Felicity. You take that trade. >> You take that trade. >> Yes.

Shona (DT260)>> Okay. >> Hit me up. >> Don't take You don't take the trade. >> I think money is only really meaningful to me when like I feel it that that it's like achieved and not just handed to me.

Shona (DT260)>> Okay. What about let me go super extreme billionaire? >> Definitely not. Also, like I want to be with someone who also like is aligned with me in that way that they want to have like a meaningful impactful career. And I think a lot of billionaires like

Brian Atlastheir money's and their like career is predicated upon just amassing as much money as possible. >> Mhm. >> And like like I want to find another doctor one day for example.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. But don't you think if you were to date somebody who's a billionaire I mean the sort of advantages that that would confer not just upon you and the sort of ease with which you could move through

Brian Atlaslife. We're talking like never have to work never have to >> and when you're a billionaire you don't have to privilege to me. Well, you don't have to hold on. Well, we wealth privilege like having rich parents is like one of the aside from like health

Shona (DT260)privilege. Wealth privilege is like the biggest privilege that it is, but I don't like it's not a privilege to me to be handed all this money by my husband and to just sit back and relax. >> That would be a privilege, but >> it's not a privilege I would enjoy or

Brian Atlaswant. >> Okay. But I mean, and by the way, at the billionaire level, you don't have to do laundry. You don't have to cook. You don't have to clean. They There's maids. >> Cooking's fun. I like cooking. Okay. Well, you can still cook, but like some

Brian Atlasof the household chores or whatever and never have to worry about it. And you've literally set up >> a thousand years of your generation, like your your grandchildren. That's a thousand-year dynasty level.

Brian Atlas>> That is my life's goal >> to pursue this like >> Okay. Um, not even a billionaire. Like, I'll do something. I'd be less inclined to billionaire woman is like, "Brian, let me save you from this podcast."

Shona (DT260)>> You take that. I'm bow I'm bowing. I'm I'm taking that trade. I'll take the trade. Good trade. >> I also don't think I think like majority of billionaires, they just they like I I think if you have a billion dollars, you should keep it. I don't believe in like

Shona (DT260)splitting up your wealth. But >> I think a lot of them are slightly out of touch and just obsessed with money. >> You know what? If somebody wants to say, "I'm out of touch, but I get to be a billionaire." I take that trade. >> I'm sure you would love.

Kira>> Do you take that trade? >> No, I don't want to be a billionaire. You don't >> you wait. So somebody here's a billion dollars. >> I wouldn't take it. I would not take that. >> You wouldn't useful to me if I earned it myself. You

Shona (DT260)would use that money for like extreme. >> I would also never be motivated to I would never be motivated to work again. >> Wait, go ahead. Go ahead. >> It would be hard for me to mo to be motivated to work again if like money

Brian Atlaswas just handed to me like that. >> Motivate to work to what end? Like most people work to make money, right? And I get that people can have careers that are fulfilling in other ways. Yes, absolutely. But I I guess my position

Brian Atlaswas what's the maximal level of help you could do? Like to her point, Kira brings up a good point. If you were just gifted a billion dollars, I get that being a psychiatrist would be helpful for

Brian Atlaspeople, but you could like donate $100 million and that would dwarf any sort of benefit that you could reap by helping people with their psychiatric issues.

Shona (DT260)>> Okay. If you gave me a billion dollars, I would donate it. You could donate it 100% of it to humanitarian aid and then continue on with my life and it wouldn't >> The trade-off is you couldn't work if you get the billion dollar.

Brian Atlas>> No, I want to work. >> But you don't like let me just understand this. >> Even Kira's like me to like give up my life's goal. So, of course, that's >> but but the the if we're looking at the

Brian Atlastotality of the benefit, like you could even give $10 million to like some psychiatric association or you could give uh $10 million so people who go to psychiatrists can probably cost more

Brian Atlasthan that can get their medicine for free. I don't know. You could you could have positive impact that would completely through a billion dollars completely dwarf the benefit that you

Brian Atlaswould do by just being a psychiatrist >> and just have to throw away my life like my life's goals like that. >> Well, you don't have any other ambition? Like what about having a family, having kids, having a traveling? >> But that's like a huge

Shona (DT260)>> You like to travel? >> Yeah, but like again like >> [ __ ] travel. You're you would ask me to compromise on something that's like really meaningful to me and I would be very very sad >> to not be able to work.

Shona (DT260)>> You'd be sad to have someone gift you a billion dollars. >> I I don't >> and the only strings attached are >> I do not worship money. Like maybe you do. I really >> Well, it's not that I worship money. I'm I'm actually >> You sound like you really want that a

Brian Atlasbillion dollars. Well, I mean, I would question >> I would I mean, I'd wonder why somebody like if it was to just be gifted to you, what why wouldn't you want it? >> Because I didn't earn it.

Shona (DT260)>> So, >> so then therefore, it's not like it doesn't it doesn't feel like worth it to me. And it it just feels like >> So, if I if I had a $1,000 right now and I was going to pass it to you, you

Brian Atlaswouldn't take it? >> No. And if I did, I would literally give it to someone who needs it, not myself. I need it. >> Interesting. Um, anybody here who takes the billion? Everybody take the billion. >> Yes.

Kira>> What about the richest man in the world? >> Yes. >> Would you would you not work? >> I have a question. >> Go ahead. >> Do you are you completely like financially independent? >> No. >> But that's again like I need financial

Kirasupport from my parents. >> Yeah, but you didn't earn it though. Like >> Yeah, but you have >> Oh [ __ ] Kira coming in. >> Sorry. I just Yeah. Do you Do you use EBT? Do you have EBT?

Shona (DT260)>> I don't know what that is. >> Okay, never mind. Never mind. I mean, food stamps like someone who's only 18 who doesn't have my own career for myself. I need to be financially supported by perfectly reasonable. >> But even with even with like the allowance they give me,

Shona (DT260)>> I I work a job that I work in like my school's cafeteria and I have to do dishes for hours on end purely because I want to have the experience of earning my own money even though I don't have to do that. >> Outst.

Brian Atlas>> I just I want to teach myself to work hard. here. Uh, okay. Well, um, I don't know. Um, I guess final thought on this this whole uh, Nick, just show the the roast. We'll do the roast. We'll wrap.

Brian AtlasOkay, guys. I'm going to let some Just because I I need to get uh, things wrapped up. We're going to let the roast come through. Holy Oh my god, I'm such a piece of [ __ ] >> What happened? Did you not record it?

SPEAKER_00>> I wasn't. No, no, no, no, no, no. I feel so [ __ ] This guy cherry creams. >> What? I'm sorry. I wasn't shut the [ __ ] up.

SPEAKER_00>> Terry Queen's donated $500 cup. >> Okay, we're muting you for 10 minutes and then you can yap as much as you want.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, okay. Hold on. Oh, wait. But some of these are directed. >> Terry, you're doing me dirty here. Um, >> she can make facial expressions. >> Yeah, you can. You'll do facial

SPEAKER_00expressions, I guess. Yo, Cherry, thank you. I'm sorry, dude. I missed out. I'm sorry. >> Pasty George donated $30. Chair one. You wouldn't want your boyfriend to watch

SPEAKER_00Butterfly. What if your future boyfriend didn't want you to go out to bars or clubs, have a girl's night, or travel abroad with your lady friends? >> Uh, you know what? Here, Pasty. I'll try

SPEAKER_00to get it at the end when she's unmuted. >> Xde, I'm actually sort of curious about chair 9. Did you choose not to have sex

SPEAKER_00outside of relationships for personal reasons? Religious convictions? Best of luck on starting a family with your husband? >> Um, yeah, just for it's just my own morals, I guess.

Katie (Cashier)>> Mhm. >> Um, yeah, I just wasn't about just, you know, having random sex with people. >> Sure. We have Nikki Cuban.

SPEAKER_00>> Nikki Cuban donated $30. Wage gap is due to men generally being more comfortable asking for a higher pay and negotiating. Women are more likely to accept an offer

SPEAKER_00provided. There's a study done. Nothing to do with sexism. >> Charles Sterling donated $30. What do you ladies think about prenuptual agreement?

Swanie>> Yes. Yes. >> I'm in favor for the ladies though. So, >> never getting a prenup. Never getting a prenup. It protects. >> Definitely get a prenup. Definitely get a prenup. Um >> yeah, I'd get a prenup

SPEAKER_00>> here. Pasty. That's another one for uh for chair one. So, we'll wait. >> Ch XD donated $30. If we can agree that flowers harms men and that flowers is addictive and can ruin people's lives.

SPEAKER_00>> Porn, it means porn. >> It's rather telling that women will not condemn an addiction that primarily destroys the lives of men only. Desert Hi donated $30. Society is has

SPEAKER_00fallen because we no longer shame degenerate behavior like we did decades ago. Shame flowers content creators, for

SPEAKER_00example, women. Shame flowers content consumers, for example, men. Eligent. >> Nick, would you do this trade? Your

Brian Atlasgirlfriend Nick is a billionaire. Here's the trade-off. You have to wear a dress for the rest of your life. >> But she's a billionaire. >> No,

Brian Atlas>> you don't do that trade. >> There's no way I'm doing that. Are you

Mari>> the billion dollars >> for money? >> Brian, >> that's that. Wait, that's such a difficult question. >> Harry Styles type dresses like the like good ones.

Brian Atlas>> I can't say it. >> Don't lie. You would do it. Cherry cream donuted $200. >> I muted chair one for 10 minutes. Can you mute her? >> Um, here's what we'll do, Cherry. Uh,

Brian Atlasfor tonight if you want to. The minimum threshold is 10 because of the delay for you. Um, just 10. I'll send you uh you can do three roasts at 10 instead of I

Brian Atlasdon't know if that's I don't know, just to make it up for you. I apologize. Uh, and then in addition to that, if you DM me on Instagram, I'll give you one free

Brian AtlasTTS um for next show. Like you can pre-send me a question and I'll do it. You have to prove it to you though. >> George donated $30. If women don't want

SPEAKER_00men to be goonas by watching puppy, then women shouldn't be goonas for dildos. Why can't women stick with their fingers as some men stick with their hand? >> It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00>> That's interesting. Interesting. >> Uh, okay. >> Pasty George donated $30. Brian, you are never going to get through to her. She

SPEAKER_00is indoctrinated to think that her life goal is to work and be a strong independent woman instead of having a real life such as raising a family. >> I can fix her. Uh, thank you for that,

SPEAKER_00Pasty George. Appreciate it. >> Bl 17 donated $30. She cares about the status of being a doctor. If she was truly motivated by helping others, she would put them first and put her second

SPEAKER_00by taking the billion and putting her dreams/ego aside.

SPEAKER_00>> How much time do we have on the mute? >> L_ats donated $30. Should have Frank castled sleeping Snorlax. L >> You know,

Brian AtlasI try to be forgiving. You know, I try to give people chances. >> I think the >> I was close though. I was very close to giving the red card. Does it look orange on camera? >> Yeah, it looks >> at least on the the TV here. Uh Pasty,

Brian Atlasonce the unmute goes off, I'll do the final ones for her. Um I almost want the the the final thing I just want to engage with you here is the like the boss babe mentality stuff or

Brian Atlaswhatever. She's she wants she really wants. My position would be and if you want you can respond to it after the mute comes

Brian Atlasoff is in terms of what's best for the children. So my perspective and I I know not all families will be able to do this because of the economic reality. I think

Brian Atlasand it could be whether it's the man or the woman but I think the best scenario for the child would be somebody goes out works makes the money

Brian Atlasand somebody stays home and takes care of the kid. I think it's bad for the can be bad for the children to push them to daycare, to push them to babysitters, to

Brian Atlaspush them to nannies, to push them to child care. The best care that any child will will get will always be from the mother.

Brian AtlasAnd I I would even argue you'll get better care from the father than passing it off to some child, some daycare worker that gets paid 18 bucks an hour,

Brian Atlasdoesn't give really care about your kid. Um, they're going to get better care and I think it's going to What's that? >> Oh, nothing. >> Oh, the kid will turn out better.

Swanie>> I was going to say I object. you. How why like why do you care? >> Okay. Because not all moms deserve to be moms. >> Yeah. Sure. >> Yeah. Cuz like

Brian Atlas>> and there's bad moms out there. Like it Yeah. It's conceivable that a a given childare worker could be better than like an abusive mom or something. But factoring in like let's say there's no

Brian Atlasabuse on either like the childare work because there are also abusive childare workers. Children under the in child care could be abused in various ways. But let's

Brian Atlasassume for both cases there's no there's no abuse and they're doing well. The care will still be better from the mother than the childare worker.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> For kids. Anybody? Kira. Bella. It sounds seemed like you really wanted to weigh in here. Bellington. >> Bell. Is that my nickname?

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. I can give everybody else nicknames. Um, Aubrey Plaza. >> Audrey. Is it Aubrey Plaza? >> It's Aubrey. >> Aubrey Plaza. >> Um,

Mari>> I I don't want to bully you. I feel I feel like I can say something. >> You can say Marijuana. >> Wow, that is so good.

Brian Atlas>> Come on. >> It actually was good. Um, >> you didn't even give me one. >> Bella what? What? I can't think of any

SPEAKER_00nicknames right now. >> Bella de la >> forelle

SPEAKER_00>> chair number_1_on some_donated $30. Selfcore delusion paints women as victims in all contexts

SPEAKER_00while dismissing the suffering of men. Men are stronger so can work longer hours. Men objectify women. Psychiatry helps people. Rolling on the floor laughing emoji. Rolling on the floor

SPEAKER_00laughing emoji. Rolling on the floor laughing emoji. Emoji. >> He thinks it's funny. >> Blest donated $30. >> Oh, Bluffest. What's up? >> This guy brings up a very good point

Shona (DT260)about possible gender pay gaps. What about the gender pay for stuff gap? Okay. To that previous chat, I have never and would never dismiss the suffering of men. Like men problems of their own.

SPEAKER_00>> So, you unmuted. >> I don't think women are always victims. And I don't think men are never victims. I think Okay. >> Pasty George donated $30. Share one. You wouldn't want your boyfriend to watch

SPEAKER_00rainbows. What if your future boyfriend didn't want you to go out to bars or clubs, have a girl's night, or travel abroad with your lady friends?

SPEAKER_00Oh, >> pasty George donated $30 your future boyfriend and want him to give up things and adhere to your

Shona (DT260)standards. What are you willing to give up for him? Are you willing to meet his >> I think the mutual compromise that I would make in my relationship is loyalty. I mean sorry like I would like

Shona (DT260)disloyalty. So, in my relationship, my man would be loyal to me and I would be loyal to my man, which means neither of us watch Rainbow or whatever. >> It's fine. It's just the

Shona (DT260)>> go going out to a bar or a club is not watching people have sex. It's not an act of infidelity. >> It's probably worse. If if you go if a girl goes to a bar

Shona (DT260)with her girlfriends and doesn't at all cheat or do anything bad or flirt with men at all, >> I'd say that that'd probably have a stronger negative outcome on the relationship than than watching porn.

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