DEBATE w/ WOKE Feminist College Girls! Charlie Kirk HATER?! ANTI-TRAD Boss Babe?! | Dating Talk #263

Date: 2025-10-06
Duration: 7h 17m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Katie (Cashier)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Kira(guest)
SPEAKER_04Love(guest)
SPEAKER_05Cody(guest)
SPEAKER_06Shona (DT260)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Bella (Econ)(guest)
SPEAKER_09Mari(guest)
SPEAKER_10Swanie(guest)
SPEAKER_11Daniela (DT260)(guest)

Key Moments

00:00:15
IntroAll 9 guests introduce themselves
00:38:36
Key MomentShona requests Charlie Kirk discussion; debates his rhetoric with Brian
04:46:00
ControversyBrian confronts Swanie/Mari about intoxication; Mari admits weed; red card issued
06:13:18
QuoteSwanie discloses body count ~400
06:40:00
Key MomentShona declines billionaire trade-off: wants to earn own career as psychiatrist

Topics Discussed

00:00:15
Guest Introductions

9 guests including 4 UCSB students.

00:38:16
Charlie Kirk Discussion

Shona requested topic. Debate on his rhetoric, Islamophobia, gun control.

01:39:00
Immigration Debate

Wide-ranging: ICE, family separation, Mexican constitutional law.

02:36:14
Traditional Gender Roles/Bowing

Brian shows bow video. Most refuse. Extended chivalry debate.

03:44:00
Trump SA Allegations

Swanie mentions Trump's record. Extended debate on presumption of innocence.

04:46:00
Weed Incident

Brian confronts Swanie and Mari about intoxication. Mari admits smoking weed. Red card.

06:14:12
Body Count Round

Shona 0, Daniela 0, Swanie ~400, Katie 3, Bella 1.

06:36:00
Billionaire Trade-Off

Would you accept billionaire husband if condition is never working?

Transcript

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04:55:44
Daniela (DT260)>> for the person, but like society as a whole like can pretty like generalize what that conventionally attractive look is. So yeah. No idea.
04:55:54
SPEAKER_12>> Like we can all agree that like Megan Fox is a beautiful woman, right? But she's not a 10 or the most attractive to everyone. >> Mhm. >> Like >> she's a 10 to many people.
04:56:06
SPEAKER_12>> Yeah. No, I'm not saying I'm saying to other people like someone could think she's socially, >> right? So then what is she? >> Um, >> no one knows cuz to some people she's a seven. To some people she's a 10.
04:56:18
SPEAKER_12>> And we don't have young Megan Fox. >> People like that. Young Megan Fox, I would say she was a 10. She >> But you just said many some people would say Megan Fox is a >> Yeah, some people would, but I would say young Megan Fox is a 10. >> But then there's no there's no
04:56:31
Daniela (DT260)discerning what she really is given that different people have. >> We can agree. She's attractive. >> She's more attractive than the average person is what her point is. I think >> I think you can give like your opinion and I mean obviously within reason but
04:56:44
Daniela (DT260)without that having to be like for certain like what I say about myself it's like oh it's whatever means nothing like one thing to me something to someone else
04:56:54
Daniela (DT260)>> so I don't think it's like it's going to be different for everyone. >> Question for you. Would you would you date a guy who's shorter than you? >> No.
04:57:05
Shona (DT260)>> Why not? I mean, if you look at like women biologically, we naturally we on average have like a much shorter height than men. So, when it comes to men's height, >> there are men there are men who are shorter than you. >> Yeah. And they're kind of like
04:57:18
Brian Atlas>> and they could be good people and have other attractive characteristics. >> Mhm. >> But you wouldn't date a guy shorter than you. >> No, I wouldn't date a guy shorter than me, but I >> we're not beholden to our biology.
04:57:29
Shona (DT260)But go ahead. Sorry. Continue. >> I'm It's just I would prefer a guy who's taller than me. And even when it comes to height, I'm somewhat forgiving. I would argue like I'm look I look at it based on average height, right? Like the average height for a man is what? >> 5'9. 59. >> 5'9.
04:57:42
Shona (DT260)>> I would perfectly I would like I would be fine dating a man who is 5'9 the way I'm the average height for a woman. So I think that kind of balances out. >> But can I ask would there be would it be a little even if it's minuscule?
04:57:55
Shona (DT260)>> If he's six feet, is it a little bit better? Okay, this is like a whole thing with my friends, but my ideal height for a guy is I'm not even kidding like 5'9, 5'10. I'm not kidding. A lot of girls like tall guys, but like personally I prefer
04:58:08
Brian Atlasguys under six feet. >> It wouldn't factor in at all for you. >> I would >> like would it be a detriment if the guy was 6 feet over? >> Not really. I don't really care much about >> it's just across the board 5'9 and up.
04:58:19
Brian Atlas>> I mean, I would be willing to date a guy who's probably at least 5'7. >> Okay. But you are, even if you're willing to date the average, you've just created a hierarchy. >> So I don't care much. I don't really
04:58:32
Brian Atlascare much. Yeah. >> Well, you said you wouldn't date a guy shorter than you and preferred 5'9. So, for example, would it be fair to say that you'd prefer 5'9 over 5'7? >> I don't really care much, but sure. I'd
04:58:46
Brian Atlassay prefer 5'9. I'd say prefer five. >> What about how tall are you? >> 54 and a half. >> Okay. Would you prefer So 5'5 would technically be taller than you. Would you prefer 5'9 or 5'5? >> 5'9.
04:58:56
Brian Atlas>> Okay. And even if on your own individual level, like in terms of your own preference, maybe you don't care. >> Yeah. >> But I do think that this is part of the calculus. >> Yeah. >> We all want to confer the best benefits
04:59:09
Brian Atlasand privileges to our children as possible. And it's just in the same way that there's pretty privilege. There are certain benefits to being tall. And like society will deem that like you look at, they've done studies on this, people who are taller tend to be paid more. I don't
04:59:22
Brian Atlasknow if there, you know, there's debates over the actual correlation or whatever. They tend to be women. A lot of women have more of a romantic interest in tall men. Uh obviously other things are
04:59:34
Brian Atlasimportant too, but so even if you yourself on the individual level were like, you know what, I from my own attraction perspective, it doesn't change anything. You could still do an analysis like if
04:59:46
Brian AtlasI'm going to confer the best benefits to my uh children, especially my male sons, male sons. Wait, hold on. My male children, excuse me. You'd be like, "Okay, I want my male sons to be tall." Like that would confer more benefits to
04:59:59
Brian Atlasthem. They'll move through life a bit. Like even if it's a little bit slightly >> I wouldn't really think about that if I'm being honest cuz I overall like when it comes to >> I mean it's it's back there in the subconscious probably. >> I mean I don't know if that's true. I really don't care about height that
05:00:11
Brian Atlasmuch. But anyways, you've created you've created a hierarchy already. Even even though you're I think your height your position on height >> is really reasonable, super reasonable. But you still are saying, "Well, I
05:00:22
Brian Atlasprefer 5'9 over 5'5." You've created a hierarchy as it relates to physical attractiveness. So that would be my type. >> I'm just different than someone else's type, which is also different from
05:00:34
Brian Atlassomeone else's type. Well, but if we universally women prefer tall men, >> so I I understand that like probably some chick somewhere wants to date a
05:00:42
Brian Atlasdwarf. Like me personally, I would >> I would get with a dwarf.
05:00:51
Brian Atlas>> I don't know if I you know. >> Yeah. Okay. You know, just just to see just to check it out. >> Uhhuh. Uhhuh. What you're saying is like Okay. >> If anybody know Do you know a dwarf? Danella, do you know a like a cute female dwarf? >> Personally, >> yes.
05:01:04
SPEAKER_08>> No. I don't know. >> Have you been with one? >> Huh? >> Have you been with one? >> Yes. >> How tall are you? >> Huh? >> I'm just curious. How tall are you? >> Uh, five. >> What's the threshold for? >> It's 49 and below. >> 49. So, you could not be a dwarf, but
05:01:17
SPEAKER_12like, >> you know, >> I do know too. >> I've been trying to get her on the show for you. >> Hook it up. >> But, uh, I don't know. You've created a hierarchy.
05:01:28
Shona (DT260)>> Most objective hierarchy. It's my my what I'm attracted to is my individual type. I I understand that. But even yourself, you've created So >> I also I also put like a man who's 6'2 below 5'9 for my personal dating
05:01:42
Brian Atlaspreference. >> That's totally fine. But what I would say is you've you've gone ahead and created a hierarchy. And what we could do, you might object to it. What we could do with your hierarchy is be like,
05:01:53
Brian Atlasokay, well, if we attach numbers to it, and I mean height is actually a literal measurement, little literal numbers. We could say, well, okay, you might not agree with it, but we could say, okay,
05:02:04
Brian Atlaswell, all things being equal of all the other things you care about in a guy, personality, his other looks, whatever, uh 55
05:02:14
Brian Atlas4 5 6 5 and we could actually put a number, a 1 to 10 number on your looks determination or sorry, your height determination.
05:02:25
Shona (DT260)>> Again, it would like dip lower on both ends of like the tall and short. Yeah, that's totally fine. Yeah, I don't think that >> also I wouldn't even like to put like just personally like my feelings on putting attaching numbers to that is
05:02:37
Brian Atlasthat it's kind of degrading and devaluing a little bit to me. >> I mean, this is this is something we all do. >> Men and women do this. >> This we we would >> this person's more attractive than this
05:02:50
Shona (DT260)person. this person is more attractive than this person >> to me or to >> but but so for I I mean if there were 10 people alive >> in this place to this demographic like >> well I mean >> it just varies so much that it just becomes so hard to like
05:03:03
Shona (DT260)>> well sure but I I would just be like okay the USA standard what's the standard in the >> USA if you're asking me to rate myself according to US 2025 conventional beauty standards >> like I my answer is that I don't know but like
05:03:17
Brian Atlas>> okay sure >> you you can rate me if you want I don't even >> no I'm I typically unless the women want me to rate them. I don't rate the women. >> I mean, it's not that I'm trying to avoid that question. I just genuinely like don't know. >> What do you think? What about this? Um,
05:03:27
Brian Atlaswhat do you think? Not what you would rate yourself, but what do you think >> guys would rate me? I've >> If If uh a thousand men were to rate you, what would the average be? >> All I'm going to base this on is what
05:03:38
Shona (DT260)I've heard myself being rated by guys before, but I've been rated like a seven before. >> Okay. Seven or eight. >> A thousand guys. What do you think the average rating would be for you? I don't know about you. >> You gave yourself an eight. Isn't that correct?
05:03:51
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. But I >> What do you think guys would rate you? >> I don't I really couldn't tell you. >> Just guess. >> Eight. >> Sure. Okay. What about you? >> You said you were uh nine, I think. What do you think? >> Like seven.
05:04:04
Kira>> Okay. Eight. What do you think guys would rate you? >> And to the mic. >> Closer to the mic. >> Yeah, I'd say six or seven. >> Okay. Uh you said you were 10. What do
05:04:16
Swanieyou think? Um, >> men would rate you. >> I rate myself a 10, but most guys would rate me like between a seven or a nine.
05:04:32
Brian Atlas>> Uh, okay. >> But you're someone's 10 for the >> And then Bella, what about you? >> Maybe like a six or seven. >> Okay. Felicity. >> Six. >> What about you? >> Six.
05:04:47
Bella (Econ)Okay. Um, oh, I give myself a five. Give myself a five. >> Give yourself more credit. >> Like you're saying you're five points deficient. >> Average or what? You think other people? >> You are passing though.
05:05:00
Shona (DT260)>> 15%. Well, >> no, no, no. >> Average. >> You're saying you're five like half like out of the whole scale like half is >> Yeah, I think I'm like average looking guy. >> But like why would you want to walk around life with like that kind of like
05:05:12
Brian Atlasinsecurity? It's not confident for improvement. >> Hold on. I think it's more confident to be like
05:05:21
Brian Atlas>> I'm a five and I accept it versus like >> wouldn't you like if some guy I'm sure you guys all know a guy >> who's a little bit too cocky who thinks
05:05:33
Brian Atlasa bit too highly of himself. He thinks he's hot [ __ ] but he really isn't. I think I believe in humbleness. I think it's a virtue, but I'm not just saying
05:05:43
Brian Atlasit like just to be humble. Like if I actually thought I was a 10, I wouldn't just be like, "Oh, I'm a I wouldn't humble myself in that way."
05:05:54
Brian Atlas>> I would probably if I actually was a 10, I'd be like, "Shit, I'm a 10." >> But it sounds like you're saying Brian. >> It sounds like you're saying like >> you want Okay, pull up Young Brian. Felicity is gooning over here. She wants to see Young Brian. We'll show Young
05:06:07
SPEAKER_12Brian. Look, I was a little when I was younger. What would you rate young Brian? >> Seven. >> Oh, please. >> No, not seven. When I was young, >> you're old. Really pretty. >> Oh,
05:06:20
Brian Atlas>> scroll down. What? >> I know. I got fat. I'm losing weight, though, boys. I'm losing weight. It's coming off. Down 10 lbs. >> Look, I'm a I'm a stress eater, you know. I don't drink. I don't do drugs. I don't smoke.
05:06:32
Brian Atlas>> That was you. I stress. I'm a stress eater. Scroll down. Wait. >> Go back down. >> The one with the Wait. the the wets suit one. Scroll up. Scroll up in the middle.
05:06:43
Brian Atlas>> Damn, I was thin. Holy [ __ ] RIP. >> But some girls like guys who are like a little bigger and >> I don't care. >> Have you heard that song by Siza? >> Bring me back. >> I need a big boy
05:06:53
Brian Atlas>> to 140 lb. Brian [ __ ] shredded >> athletic. Bring me back. >> Uh 140 145. >> Wow. >> I was trim. I was trim. >> Trim.
05:07:05
Brian Atlas>> Athletic. >> What's your ethnicity? Just French or something else? >> I don't know. Some probably some British. Probably some like southern like Italian. I don't know. >> Um, mostly French probably.
05:07:16
Brian Atlas>> Uh, scroll up. X out of that. What about the whatever picture? All right. Young Brian. I don't know. I was 22 23. >> Brian segment. >> Yeah. Look, aging's a [ __ ] Aging's a [ __ ] [ __ ]
05:07:30
Shona (DT260)>> They said you're still really attractive. >> Wait, you look just as good now. >> Oh, okay. Please. Please. Are you hitting on him? >> No, I'm just trying to get his to to lift his own rating and to to not walk
05:07:42
Brian Atlasaround and say he's a five. >> Look, I just acknowledge uh Well, I mean, this is a different segment where we say, "Do you think people would be will be better looking as they age?" But um older guys are cute. Like, what?
05:07:54
Brian Atlas>> Oh, no. I'm not saying that. >> You know what? She She's the kind of girl She's the kind of girl like >> she she wants to argue with her boyfriend. She wants to get into political debates. >> Wait, you're kind of right. You're kind
05:08:07
Shona (DT260)of right. >> She's like, "Yeah, let's let's debate." >> Wait, I love a good argument. >> Wait, I was just messing with you, but you really like him, huh? >> That's not what I'm saying. I just don't like that he's walking around saying like half of me is not up to par. Like,
05:08:20
Shona (DT260)I'm only a five out of 10. >> You think he's a 10? >> The [ __ ] >> I'm going to start blushing over here.
05:08:28
Kira>> Wait, this is cute. >> Enemies to lovers. That's so beautiful. That's not what I want, guys. Like, he's
05:08:38
Brian Atlasgetting red. >> All right. Um, cool. >> Wait, what? Okay. What do you think makes you a five? >> That's awesome.
05:08:47
Brian Atlas>> What do I Um, well, first off, I'm I'm a little bit overweight. Got to lose a bit of weight. That's, you know, part of it. >> I used to be super fit, but look, >> you could probably You could probably
05:08:59
Brian Atlaslike fight better, though. you know, you know, like more inertia, like >> like a bouncer, you know, we have to be kind of bulky. >> I mean, if I was like wrestling with a guy, I wrestled in high school. If I was wrestling with a guy, my weight could be an advantage because it's harder to move
05:09:13
Brian Atlasmore weight. >> So, you could be a better protector. >> But no, I'd be I' would be a better honestly, I would be a better protector at 150 lbs than whatever the [ __ ] I'm at
05:09:22
Brian Atlasright now. It's it's it's over 200, which is no bueno. Okay, but just like convert that into muscle and you'll be good. >> That's what I'm working on. I'm working on Look, I was I I was stressful period.
05:09:36
Shona (DT260)I was stress eating. >> Wait, but some girls don't even like guys who are like super skinny. Like they like a guy with more meat on them. >> She's not She's not for me then. >> I don't like >> She ain't the one. But uh uh what else? I mean, I don't know what makes me a five.
05:09:49
Brian Atlas>> Okay, that's five whole points off. >> I don't know. I'm pale. >> What's wrong with being pale? >> I'm I'm pale. I'm a I I get dandruff sometimes. My face is red. >> You don't have any dandruff? I don't see
05:10:02
Brian Atlasany dandruff. >> Well, head and shoulders has been >> So, it's been working. So, no points off there. >> Yeah, but it's, you know, whatever. Uh, I don't know. Big nose. Um, >> what did you say about big noses? >> I don't know how to articulate. I'm a
05:10:15
Brian Atlasfive. >> Why are you insulting yourself? >> No. Yeah, stop insulting. >> But I for me, >> I I don't think girls like big noses flaws. >> I don't think it's insult. I'm not like insecure like, "Oh my god, I hate how I
05:10:28
Brian Atlaslook." I'm just like, "It is what it is. I know I'm not a male model, and that's okay. I'm fine with it." >> You can be with some makeup. You can You can know.
05:10:42
SPEAKER_00>> Okay. Um, cool. We have a chat here from >> All right. >> Pasty George $200. Chair one, on a scale of 1 to 10 for attractiveness, you are a
05:10:54
SPEAKER_00five, which is average, >> but that's my opinion. And others in the chat will rate you differently. >> And I'm sure they will, which is why it's so hard to discern what I actually am. >> Yeah. >> Can I ask you a question?
05:11:08
Brian Atlas>> Sure. >> You sure? >> I'm sure. >> It's not bad. I feel like I should have said you sure then she's >> No. Now I feel like it's bad. >> Should I not Should I not ask it? It's really not bad. >> Ask it.
05:11:18
Brian AtlasUm, do you uh do you pluck your eyebrows? >> Yeah. >> Okay, that was it. >> I was definitely considered less
05:11:28
Shona (DT260)attractive by guys before I started doing that. Like, trust me. >> Are you saying that they were >> they were caterpillars? >> Caterpillars. Okay. Okay.
05:11:41
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Why? >> I was just curious. Sorry. Did I make a oopsie? >> No, it's fine. >> Again, you thought you don't Maybe you don't like your >> eyebrows are Wait, eyebrows? Yeah,
05:11:54
Shona (DT260)eyebrows. They're fine. >> No, if it's fine if you don't like them, that's fine. Like other people compliment my eyebrows. So, like again, it doesn't matter. >> Like kind of like how I noticed her armpit hair. I'll just notice it. >> You're just pointing out things that you don't find attractive in women and
05:12:07
Brian Atlasthat's okay. >> No, I didn't say I didn't say that your eyebrows are fine. Show me a picture. Show me a picture of how your eye >> My phone's over there, but I promise it was not. >> Your eyebrows are magnific.
05:12:26
Brian AtlasI was just asking a question. >> I'm sorry. Did I have I >> I just just >> I've just put my foot in my mouth. >> Yeah. No, you're pretty. Just don't listen to him.
05:12:37
Brian Atlas>> Well, I didn't say she wasn't pretty. You're a very handsome woman, >> but beautiful. Sorry, I'm [ __ ] Sorry. Sorry. I shouldn't say that word
05:12:46
Brian Atlaseither. Oh my gosh. >> See, this is I'm my I am my own biggest. Never mind.
05:12:57
Brian Atlas>> Thanks for your thoughts and opinions. >> I >> I feel like there's nothing I could say now. >> You look like my sister. You're really pretty.
05:13:05
Brian Atlas>> I was just asking a qu. Do you want to ask me something like Okay. >> Oh, I want to eat a
05:13:17
Brian Atlas>> Anyways, uh rating scale 1 to 10. >> Can we fix the mic on the table? >> Do you want me to grow them out? >> Which one? >> Oh, you're asking me if I want you to
05:13:30
Brian Atlasgrow grow your >> my eyebrows out. >> Let's see. >> This one? Oh, >> we're not even dating and she's giving me authority over her eyebrows. You know
05:13:40
Brian Atlaswhat? As the arbiter of uh eyebrow growth, I don't know. You You You'd have to show me a before picture. >> It was tragic. It was really tragic.
05:13:52
Shona (DT260)>> Some guys are into that >> and some guys are into thin brows. So, again, this is where this is this is why I take issue with the whole 1 to 10 thing. >> Just make things awkward. >> Yeah, you kind of did. >> I do. me to like crash out about it.
05:14:05
SPEAKER_12Like I feel like I'm just >> I think Brian feels bad cuz he doesn't want to make you feel bad. >> No, I'm okay. Again, like I don't base my self worth based on like other people's opinions on how I look. >> Yeah, I think Brian just he just feels a little bad and thinks you made it
05:14:18
Brian Atlasawkward. >> No, it's okay. You don't have to like my eyebrows. >> I I didn't say I didn't like your eyebrows. Your eyebrows are great. >> They kind of go with your style. I like >> I was just asking if
05:14:29
Brian Atlasif you do pluck your eyebrows. >> I do. I wants to explore. >> You know what? I feel like I got to I got to make a confession >> sometimes. You know what? I Do you have trio tiemania?
05:14:42
Brian Atlas>> What is that? >> Like a compulsive hair pulling or plucking or whatever. >> All right. I'm going to You know what? Cuz I feel bad. >> I'mma expose myself. >> Okay. >> I
05:14:56
Brian Atlas>> Don't do it, Brian. >> What the [ __ ] >> Shut up, Nick. Sorry. >> I get a couple I get a couple little ear hairs and I pluck them. >> I I put a lot
05:15:08
Daniela (DT260)>> like like on the right here. >> I pluck. Okay. I pluck them. >> Yeah. Good. >> As you should. >> Yeah. >> Clip it and ship it, boys. Um >> it's just like my personal style, that's all. Like there's
05:15:21
Daniela (DT260)>> I love that for you. >> I think Yeah, the way you say things. >> I would Oh my god. I feel like I'm guilty of a [ __ ] genocide or some [ __ ] Like I'm guilty. >> I feel like I haven't reacted very strongly for you to feel so awkward or
05:15:33
Shona (DT260)guilty. Like I >> think I'm Am I projecting? I feel like I'm >> No, I I just I don't really care if you don't like them. It's fine. Like >> I love what you Why are you saying that? I don't like them. I I think they're beautiful.
05:15:45
Brian Atlas>> A >> they're great. I just noticed I was just asking a question. Okay, moving on. Uh, rating people from
05:15:56
Shona (DT260)one to 10. Don't Why you looking at me that way? >> Is it just me? She's like daggers. >> Dirty looks, too. >> Daggers. >> I don't know. I just spent all this time uplifting him and now he was taking shots of my >> Well, I'm not taking shots.
05:16:09
Brian Atlas>> The whole reason you brought it up is to like >> Okay, fine. I'll pay you a compliment. Your nose 10 out of 10. >> Thank you. >> Give her another one. >> It's honestly
05:16:22
Brian AtlasDid you get a nose job? She's got a great nose. That's like god tier 10 out of 10 nose. >> Your nose. I never actually thought that. >> Yeah. Look to the side. >> Very nice nose. >> Very nice nose. >> Great nose. >> Best nose. Even
05:16:36
Bella (Econ)>> two eyes. >> Make noses great again. >> Oh, wow. >> I have a big nose. [ __ ] I >> I can tell. >> You do. >> Thank you, Bella. >> I think I'm right. >> It's okay.
05:16:48
Mari>> Thank you, Bella. This is a safe space. Oh my god, I'm so awkward. Okay. Um, this is not a safe space. >> Oh, >> thank you for sharing that. Um, >> thank you for the contribution. Thank
05:17:00
Brian Atlasyou. >> Uh, okay. Rating people 1 to 10. Um, I do think that there So, beauty I don't think is purely subjective. >> Damn. Do I grow my eyebrows out now? >> Oh, you made her insecure.
05:17:13
SPEAKER_12>> See, I >> It's okay. >> You are beautiful just the way you are. >> I don't think you believe that. >> It sounds >> I don't think you believe that. Say it differently. >> No, it's fine. >> Sounded a little >> Do you want to like call me fat or
05:17:26
Shona (DT260)something for >> No, I don't to make it equal. >> I don't take joy in taking shots of people's >> I'm confident in myself. Just call me chubby. Go ahead. >> You're not chubby. >> Call me Rotund.
05:17:39
Brian Atlas>> You're not Rotund. >> Call me Rubenesque. >> Reubenesque. >> Call me a a big beautiful >> big bond. Big bone >> black woman. Sorry. Wait. Wait, hold on. Uh, >> big bon
05:17:53
Mari>> call me. >> Okay, wait. Sorry. I >> Oh, did that offend you? Sorry. >> No. What? >> You just want to >> Go ahead. >> Offend me. How? I want to know how you
05:18:03
Maricould have offended me. [Music] >> Sorry. Go ahead. What's What do you What did you want to say? >> My stomach hurts. And
05:18:15
Brian Atlas>> holy [ __ ] Thank you for sharing that. I've been wondering all night. You know, I was just thinking I was been sitting here this whole time like, damn, I wonder how her stomach feels right now. [ __ ]
05:18:25
Mari>> And I feel like I can't I can't I don't I don't know. I'm not as engaging as I usually am right now. >> And >> oh my god, bro. What am I dealing with
05:18:38
Maritonight? >> You're dealing with normal [ __ ] >> Wait, did you drive here? >> Uhhuh. No. Um, but yeah. No. So, I feel like I'm gonna tap out just cuz um
05:18:50
Mari>> Or you could just sit there. >> You want me to sit here? >> Wait, >> never mind. >> What? Sorry. >> You can do it again. >> Cuz they told me I had to announce it.
05:19:03
Brian Atlas>> No, you're fine. Don't worry about it. You're just going to just enjoy the rest of the show. Uh hold on. We have a message here from Pasty George. >> What do you mean enjoy? >> Pasty George donated $200.
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SPEAKER_00Many western women nowadays are a generic copy and paste of each other who are always insecure. Never true to themselves and always trying to get the top guys instead of the downto- earthth ones. >> Spicy take there. Pasty George.
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Brian Atlas>> Who hurt you? >> Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Appreciate it. Thank you. W Py George. Pasty Canadian. W Canada. Do we have any Canadians here? No. Okay. I didn't think so. >> From where? I'm not Canadian. I've just
05:19:41
Brian Atlasbeen there many times. >> Uh where were we? the looks thing. Oh, right. Yeah. You know, I think though across cultures, there are like universal things that will be deemed
05:19:53
Brian Atlasbeautiful. Like for example, why even cultures who never contacted each other in history? What is it about a flower that's
05:20:03
Maribeautiful cross-culturally, universally? What is it about a sunset that is beautiful? >> There's so many different things, too, cuz because they articulate it so differently. like it could like
05:20:13
Marimetaphorically mean something different like for Do you not understand what I said? Come on. Stop. Stop. Stop. That made so much sense.
05:20:24
Mari>> Like a sunset can metaphorically be like >> the end of something like you know letting go of something and then >> Yes, you're so right. >> I agree with every single
05:20:37
Shona (DT260)>> I just I just gave you the opportunity to tap out and I'm I'm still trying to help you out. >> Thank you. I appreciate that. >> Wait, have you seen that one tribe in Thailand where they like they put rings around their like rings around what's going on in your head, Brian?
05:20:50
Shona (DT260)>> Sorry, what? >> Hold on. Let her let let hers on. No, you go ahead. You go ahead. >> Okay. Like there's like like in certain parts of Africa like women will put like really large like circle plates on their
05:21:02
Shona (DT260)lip. In certain tribes in Thailand, women will put like rings on their neck. And I think in some part of Polynesia, women will get like as fat as possible to seem like healthy. So yeah, like there's not much that's universal about
05:21:14
Brian Atlassome of those things. >> Well, I'm not saying every single thing that will be deemed be beautiful is universal. That's clearly not true. Uh, you know, and we see this across a whole
05:21:25
Brian Atlasbunch of different things, but I would argue that probably the majority of people, I mean, and these are really typically small sample sizes. You're talking about like the tribe, the women
05:21:37
Shona (DT260)who have the neck thing, really small proportion. go larger scale like in China for example like the standards to have like a really small face like big ears is an attractive thing like as pale as possible whereas in the US like women
05:21:48
Shona (DT260)try and be like or have like be like less skinny than that or try they try to be like a little more tan or to have like bigger lips >> and then in like Africa like in Nigeria like the expectation is for women to have like really big butts like be
05:22:00
Shona (DT260)really curvy >> by the way just big lips are across the board attractive >> in China no no like >> even even in Asian countries >> no Like in a lot of East Asian countries like smaller lips are considered attractive. >> Well, no, it's true.
05:22:14
Brian Atlas>> There's so many different Asian countries. I mean, I would >> Okay. China specifically like smaller lips >> is attractive. >> Looking at more like Southeast Asian countries like Vietnam, um like Thailand. I actually think
05:22:25
Brian Atlasgenetically Southeast Asian women tend to have big lips as compared to like Koreans or Japanese or Chinese. But
05:22:36
Brian Atlas>> I do think it is actually the beauty standard in I couldn't speak specifically to like Korea, Japan. >> I would argue even then though like full plump lips are deemed >> like it's universally attractive.
05:22:49
Shona (DT260)>> The center it's I think it's to have like small like heart-shaped lips. That's what I've seen. Like I used to I used to like be into like K-pop and like I saw like that's what like K-pop idols were doing and stuff like that. Like it really the point is like there are
05:23:02
Shona (DT260)standards that vary. What about for white people >> in America? >> Yeah. >> Well, I think the standard is to have big lips. >> Mhm. Okay.
05:23:13
Brian AtlasCuz I mean I I would go back to like the 90s or the early 2000s. Uh Angelina Jolie, big plump lips. Everybody was like, "That's beautiful."
05:23:25
Brian AtlasUm, okay. We We're going to do a fun segment now. We've talked about some I blame I blame her for everything. All of you here who had to endure
05:23:37
Brian Atlasall these terrible political conversations, just don't blame me as the host and owner of the podcast, blame her. >> Why would we blame her? >> Any because
05:23:48
Brian Atlas>> why don't we blame you, Brian? >> Because she's a she's Anyways, >> I think you don't like me. >> Uh, so we're going to do a fun segment, though. Oh, first I have to ask the question. Uh, do you think you'll be
05:23:58
Shona (DT260)better looking in 10 years time? >> I think women reach their peak attractiveness at like 27. >> Like if you look at Angelina Jolie throughout the years, she looked her best at 27, 28. And that'll be like
05:24:10
Brian Atlasthat's the age I'll be in 10 years. >> Uh, so better looking at 28. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What about uh 20 years 38? Better looking than now? >> I'll be less conventionally attractive in 20 30 years. >> You're 20. Better looking in 10 years
05:24:22
Brian Atlastime and 30 for you. >> Better looking >> in 30 years. >> Sorry. Uh, you're 20 now. Better looking in and 10. So at 30, better looking. >> I think around the same.
05:24:33
Daniela (DT260)>> Same. Okay. What about 40? Better looking, worse? >> Than 20. >> Around the same. >> Same at 40. Okay. What about >> that? After that is the decline. I think >> that's the Okay. 24 better looking in 10
05:24:45
Mariyears time. >> Um, so like Yeah, because I'm going to be looking good looking for the 30 year olds and then when I'm 40, I'm going to be good-looking for the 40 year olds. So yeah, cuz everyone has a perception of
05:24:57
Brian Atlasgood looking. >> The question isn't so absolutely people can be attractive for their age. People can still be just generally across the board attractive. >> But the question is compared to now better looking at 34.
05:25:11
Mari>> Yeah. Yeah. >> 44. >> Yeah. 44. Yeah. >> 54. Better looking than that. >> Uhuh. I don't I don't want to talk low. No. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to keep going. Yeah. I'm not going to talk about
05:25:24
Brian Atlasmyself. >> Thank you. >> Save us, please. What about you? >> Save who? >> Not you. >> Oh gosh. Okay. Better looking in 10 years. >> Yeah, I think so. >> 20 years. >> Yeah. >> Uh 30 years. >> Yeah.
05:25:37
Brian Atlas>> 40 years. >> Yeah. >> Where's the color? >> Good genetics run in my family. So, >> okay. What is it? What is the saying? Black don't crack. >> Exactly. >> Mhm. Asian don't raise them.
05:25:46
Brian Atlas>> And I feel like Hispanic don't even wear >> I don't know. dot dot dot dot dot dot dot exhibit A me over here. >> Uh, okay. What about you? Better looking in 10 years time?
05:25:58
Kira>> No, I don't I don't think I'm gonna look better in 10 years.
05:26:14
Bella (Econ)>> I'm so sorry. That was >> Oh my god. What the [ __ ] Bella? She was
05:26:21
Brian Atlas>> Oh my gosh, bro. What the heck am I doing? >> I'm just chilling. >> She's better looking in 10 years time. >> The mic. >> Anyways, Bella, what about you?
05:26:31
Brian Atlas>> I think yes. >> Uh 20 years time. Better looking at uh >> it's 40. Yes. >> 50? >> No. >> Okay. Uh Felicity, we've done you. What about you? You're uh 36. better looking
05:26:45
Katie (Cashier)in 10 years time? >> I don't think so. >> And then were you better looking at 26? >> No, I think I look better now actually. >> Better now. And just curious like did you lose weight, gain weight? Like how? >> I think I just kind of learned what works better for me like in terms of
05:26:58
Brian Atlasjust like you know everything like makeup, hair, everything. >> Gotcha. Okay, cool. Uh once ah she got up. We got Okay, we do the segment where we put all of you through AI >> and then we've made all of you men. We've turned all of you into man. do
05:27:11
Brian Atlasthat. >> Why are we >> [ __ ] with a >> Oh, we don't have either. >> No, we have the first one. >> Oh, but not the >> Oh, okay. >> When did that happen? Wait, how did that happen?
05:27:23
Brian Atlas>> Uh, we actually like took these pictures a week ago. We just stalked you guys to where you live. >> And we had like a photographer with like
05:27:33
Brian Atlasa zoom lens. Just kidding. No, just from the from the from the stream. From the stream. Um, >> hold on one sec. Okay. >> Uh, here we're going to do some What's that?
05:27:45
Brian Atlas>> Are they good or you guys are all of you? No. All of you are >> took some milk. >> Mils. >> Uh, so I confirmed beforehand. >> I don't know.
05:27:56
Brian Atlas>> Wait, are we going to be rating the the gender the AI version of us? >> Would you date? >> Uh oh. Who here would date Luigi Manion? >> Me.
05:28:08
Brian Atlas>> Wait, hold on. Okay. Starting with you. Well, you're married, but if you're >> wakes up, that's the first thing he hears. >> No. >> Uh, >> just based on looks or >> No, no. Like, you know, that guy assassinated somebody. >> I don't want I don't like Gilbert.
05:28:21
Brian Atlas>> Oh, that Bella. >> Oh, >> wait. Didn't you say yes, Bella? >> No. >> Oh, I I thought I heard a yes. Okay. Would you date Luigi Manion, the assassin of the healthcare guy CEO?
05:28:35
Brian Atlas>> I mean, hell yes. >> Into the mic. You can come back. Go ahead. Uh, yes you would. Would you date Luigi if you were single? Hypothetically? >> No. >> No. Would you date Luigi? >> Uh, no. Just cuz he's a killer.
05:28:47
Mari>> Okay. >> Oh, possibly. >> Can you put your feet down, please? >> Sorry, I got a cold. Um, no, cuz he's a killer. >> Okay. >> Lol. >> Uh, realistically, no. >> Wait, hold on. Realistically, no.
05:29:01
Daniela (DT260)>> What do you mean? >> I I get his like appeal, but like >> Oh, boy. >> That's not like datable. I appreciate if it's just based on looks >> cuz based on looks. Yes. But like him entirely.
05:29:15
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. It's the whole package. Whole package. Can't really ignore the whole >> Probably will spend the rest of his life in jail. >> You got to understand his motive though. >> Let's say he got out. Whatever. The motive. Oh boy. Okay. I'm not I won't
05:29:28
Brian Atlasdebate I'm not going to debate the Luigi Manion stuff. Um >> but do you want to debate the health care system in the US? >> Yeah, there's definitely flaws in the health care system. I think that that you shouldn't assassinate somebody, you know,
05:29:41
Brian Atlas>> but that should really tell you something, right? >> You're right. It should tell me something. What it's telling me, I'm not sure, but uh anyways, let's pull it up,
05:29:52
Brian AtlasNick. We have Do we have it? We got it. Let's do it. >> What is it? The gender. >> Uh I think it's just the looks and whatever. >> Okay. >> Smaller.
05:30:04
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Oh, they made your eye super big on the far right, but the middle one's good. >> All right, there you go. Next. Uh, let's just do next, I guess. >> I want to do that. >> Whoa. Damn. >> Wow.
05:30:18
Daniela (DT260)>> Nice. >> Good. >> I did not want to see that again. >> Okay. All right. Next. >> Filter like this on Tik Tok. >> Wow. >> Wait. I don't >> Holy damn. Y'all did her dirty.
05:30:31
Mari>> Whoa. Now the question you have to >> the question is but I I stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop I look like a hippie grandma that like owns a farm and I'm
05:30:43
Brian Atlastrying to live >> you're so right um the question the question I want you >> and she got cool ass hair too >> I pay attention to detail what I want everybody to look at is you see the
05:30:54
Brian Atlastattoo on her neck on the left it looks like the the skull of the I don't know a bowl or some animal or whatever on the far right that just looks like your neck. >> You know what I mean? You know how like old people get >> No.
05:31:08
Mari>> You know what I mean? No, >> I can still see the tattoo pretty clearly. >> All right. Thanks for listening. Appreciate it. Thanks for the backup. Uh, next. >> What? >> That was kind of crazy. >> That was You see that was crazy.
05:31:20
Kira>> Hey, not bad. Not bad. >> She's cute. >> All right. >> Oh, but my Okay. >> Okay. Next. Oh. >> Wow. >> She's cute, too. >> Into the mic. Into the mic. That's special.
05:31:31
Brian Atlas>> That's really special. I kind of like her. I [ __ ] with her. No, you got a good one. I feel like >> we can't. Bella, we can't. You're gonna look great, Bella. You're gonna
05:31:40
SPEAKER_12>> Bella, you're going to be >> No, Bella. No, Bella. >> Look at this. Wow. >> Next.
05:31:50
SPEAKER_12>> She's hiding, >> bro. What the hell? >> I mean, >> you kind of look the same in the first. It's not that bad to be honest. >> I know. >> It's like no different.
05:32:02
Brian Atlas>> It's like canvas. Uh >> this like it looks like if I went through plastic surgery if I decided to go through it. >> No. No. Gender by the way. Just take another uh next. >> Uh oh. Watch out, Bella. Or wait, maybe it's out of order.
05:32:16
Bella (Econ)>> Like hiding. >> Oh my god. >> Wait. I'm not in it. Yes. >> No, you are. >> You are. You see where they are. >> Okay. That's, you know, it's not bad. >> I think we're done.
05:32:29
Brian Atlas>> Next. >> No, I don't want >> Oh, she's cute. >> Bella, you gota look at the screen, Bella. Bella, >> yours is >> Honestly, they did you really [ __ ] dirty, I'm telling to be honest. They
05:32:42
SPEAKER_12did you dirty. >> They did it really dirty. >> Did you see it? >> Yeah. >> Wait, why you just get it away? >> Just hiding behind me. >> You don't need to put it on the screen.
05:32:54
Brian AtlasIt's okay. Mine's going to be really Okay. Oh, well, she >> Oh. Oh, I >> she uh I I guess her something health thing with her kids, so she had to she
05:33:06
SPEAKER_12had to leave. Yeah. >> Uh next. >> Ew. >> Oh, cute. >> Wait, why? She looks like she needs a tone or something. The hair is so yellow. Why Why' they make my hair yellow? >> Anyways, next. >> Oh, okay. All right.
05:33:20
Brian Atlas>> You look like my dad. >> That was the worst one. That one's >> be so dirty. Why the [ __ ] >> That's literally the worst one. >> That's [ __ ] up. Is there another one or is that it?
05:33:31
Brian Atlas>> That literally looks like my dad. >> [ __ ] That's looks like your dad. >> Like really similar. >> Oh, [ __ ] >> Uh, okay, cool. Uh, no gender swap then, I guess. Nick,
05:33:45
Brian Atlas>> let me see. >> Curious. I kind of wanted to see that program. Okay, we're going to blast through the pre-show notes really quick. So, hold on.
05:33:56
Brian AtlasUh, we did. Okay. H, one sec. One sec. Oh, um,
05:34:10
Brian Atlaswait. You said you grew up. Do you have South African citizenship? >> UK citizenship? >> UK citizenship. Okay. since birth. >> Okay. Uh, never mind then. Um, let's
05:34:22
Brian Atlassee. Does anybody here have or has had a roster? >> Roster. >> Roster like dating multiple people at the same time? >> No.
05:34:37
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Uh, who here would date a conservative >> as long as they're mo or like not radical? Okay.
05:34:49
Brian Atlas>> Probably depends on like some like details, I guess. >> Okay. >> Actually, kind of boring question. I'm going to skip it then. >> Uh, would you date a guy who owns firearms?
05:35:05
Shona (DT260)>> Most likely not. But if I really liked a guy and he owned a gun, it wouldn't be a dealbreaker. >> Like responsible gun owner. again. Likely not, but it would be a dealbreaker. >> What about you?
05:35:18
Kira>> Uh, I would >> What about you? >> I already did. >> I'd love that for you. >> Yeah, I would. >> Yeah, if he was safe with it. Yeah.
05:35:39
Swanie>> Yeah. Yes. >> Uh, okay. What about you, Bella? >> Yes, >> Felicity. >> Yes. Yes. >> Love it. Beautiful. Wonder Waba. Thank
05:35:53
Brian Atlasyou, guys. Uh, okay. >> German. >> Yes. Uh, oh, women can't make machine gun noises. >> Oh, >> make a machine gun noise. >> Like a like that. >> Oh, [ __ ] Okay.
05:36:05
Daniela (DT260)>> I can't I can't. >> You got Come on. Try it. Try. Try. Try. Just try. Just try. >> No. I don't fall in peer pressure. >> Daniela, you got this. >> Oh, trust me. My voice doesn't have much
05:36:16
Daniela (DT260)um like range. >> You sound kind of like Russian. >> Really? >> Yes. >> I've heard a couple different things. I don't know. >> But um I hear it's pretty flat, so I >> Machine gun noise.
05:36:29
Love>> Yes. >> Make it be like >> Okay, pretty good. >> I used to be able to do it, but I can't do it with my tongue piercing. >> Oh, you can't anymore. The tongue piercing. What about you? Machine gun noise.
05:36:41
SPEAKER_12Great. Okay, Bella. >> I love Wait, guys. Guys, >> no, that's not No. >> Okay, listen. >> I won't do it till you do it. >> I'll do it. >> Okay, I'll go first. I'll wait. >> No, you go first.
05:36:54
SPEAKER_12>> No, thank you. >> I need inspo. >> Wait. >> Machine gun noise. >> I don't know if it's going to sound like a machine gun, but >> that's pretty good. Wait, now I'm getting really shy.
05:37:06
SPEAKER_12>> I know. I think you did this before. All of us do it. Come on. Come on. >> I think mine was the best. >> I mean, I do it a little differently. It's like, >> okay, >> like that. I do it a little different
05:37:18
Brian Atlasand I do it a little differently. >> Okay. >> Sorry. >> Are Oh, are you going to do it? No. >> Wait, was my machine gun was it kind of >> lame? Accurate. >> Oh, okay.
05:37:28
Mari>> It's like medieval gaming sound. Machine gun. It's not like Call of Duty sound if that makes sense. The one you just made. >> Yeah. >> So true. Only Okay. Um, trying to think here. Okay,
05:37:41
Brian Atlaswe're going to get through some of the >> sarcastic. >> I have no idea. I don't even know at this point. Sometimes [ __ ] just comes out of my mouth. I'm like, did I just say that? Um, >> word.
05:37:53
Brian Atlas>> Okay, hold on. Uh, okay. >> No. >> Oh, yeah. Felicity. What the [ __ ] >> Okay, not bad. Good job. >> Uh, Katie, that's you.
05:38:05
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Katie, uh, you said the fact that you dated two guys before your husband, each for about seven to eight years, but being as naive and dependent as you were, those relationships should have ended about two years in. >> What? Why is that? Were they like
05:38:17
Katie (Cashier)cheating on you? Can you just scoot into the table just a bit? >> Is she okay? >> Her eyelashes are caught on the mic. >> Oh, go ahead, Katie. Go ahead. >> Um, I think they should have ended
05:38:30
Katie (Cashier)earlier just because we weren't compatible. Mhm. >> Um, I'll just talk about my last relationship. Um, I feel like I did a lot for that relationship, but I don't think he really contributed as much as
05:38:42
Brian Atlashe could have, but I really just didn't have the confidence to walk away. >> Like he did try to break up with me many times, but >> Oh, >> yeah. I >> was there ever re reasons given like
05:38:53
Katie (Cashier)were you being annoying or what what was >> I probably to him. He well there was a lot of things that he felt like he needed from me. >> Like one thing it's going to sound stupid but just like you know he wanted
05:39:05
Katie (Cashier)me to like dress up more for example >> you know I was very more modest. >> I see. Okay. >> That was one thing we would argue about a lot. >> I Oh okay. H interesting. Usually you
05:39:16
Brian Atlashear a little bit the reverse but okay. Uh we have let's see down uh okay uh for you how how do you pronounce
05:39:29
Brian Atlasyour is >> did I say that right uh in your Instagram you describe yourself as MK ultra rat >> oh you actually looked at my Instagram I'm surprised >> why
05:39:41
Mariwhy are you looking at me like what the [ __ ] >> I'm sorry >> I've been studying um kale since I I was a kid and so I like >> Oh boy, >> my head blew up. >> Are you an MK Ultra rat? What does that
05:39:55
Swaniemean? >> Um, that was just a joke because I feel like I'm a target individual. >> You're I'm sorry. What? Target? >> That was just a joke because I felt like I was a target individual. So, I just put that in there. >> By MK Ultra.
05:40:08
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> The government brainwashing program. Okay. Um, you also Yeah. Targeted individual. You call yourself a separate entity. What does that mean? that I'm like no other being.
05:40:22
Swanie>> Oh, okay. I see. >> Yeah. Like, why do you think my name's Deenus Deuce? It literally means divine god in Latin. >> I love that for you. >> Thank you.
05:40:34
Brian Atlas>> That is dope. Okay. Uh let's see. We have Bella. >> Uh okay. We already talked about like past relationships having lasted over a
05:40:43
Brian Atlasmonth. Uh, you said you met your current boyfriend. He was your subleaser. Oh [ __ ] Landlord. >> Landlord privileges. After 5 days of talking, he asked you to be the girl.
05:40:55
Bella (Econ)His girlfriend. >> Yeah, that was like the craziest. Yeah. >> Current guy. >> Okay. >> Cuz that was like very >> So, were you guys like living together or he How was that working? >> Oh, no. Like literally cuz I'm from Sacramento, so it was like the sub lease
05:41:08
Brian AtlasI found cuz I'm not going to write for like the place, right? >> All right. >> Yeah. So, like were you still in town or did you like subleasase it? You guys >> No, I was like I didn't know like I
05:41:19
Brian Atlaswasn't here. >> So, you got But you met in person at one point, right? >> We had to switch off. >> Oh, wait. So, he had already been subleasasing your spot. >> Mhm. >> And then he's like, "Here's your place." >> Well, like >> and then
05:41:32
Bella (Econ)>> Yeah. kind of like that cuz I would come see the place just because of the school and stuff, but I mean it's a house with rooms, so >> Okay. >> And Wow. Hopefully he's not watching this >> romantic. Uh I know
05:41:44
Bella (Econ)>> you said double standards. You wanted to talk about double standards. >> I feel like we already talked about it like with the whole >> Is Yeah, sure. Is there anything that you wanted to add though? >> Um I feel like
05:41:57
Bella (Econ)>> men get away with a lot more things when it comes to being [ __ ] shamed than women. I mean I feel like women get the >> um okay >> end of the bad end of the stick on that. >> But I feel like that's pretty not really
05:42:09
Brian Atlasa hot take. I feel like everyone knows that. Or if you think differently then please. >> I Well, I think men have a more invested interest in promiscu like men care more about it. >> Mhm.
05:42:21
Bella (Econ)>> Like they have a greater preference towards >> Right. But I feel like men get away with it when if they do the same action. >> Okay. So basically like if a man sleeps with a bunch of women, he's kind of um
05:42:34
Brian Atlashe's not shamed as much as a woman who sleeps with a bunch of >> I feel like he gets praised or like people like find it like oh it's okay he's like a >> I mean my personal take is I don't think promiscuity is good in men or women. >> Uh I think we should move away from like
05:42:47
Brian Atlashookup culture promiscuity. These things are bad on the individual level and also I think the societal level. It's a bad way to structure the dynamics and interactions between men and women. Uh
05:42:58
Brian Atlasbut I mean I can think of some justifications. I think one women their own preferences seem to care generally speaking women care far less about male
05:43:10
Brian Atlaspromiscuity. So women don't really employ a mechanism to like control or police >> male promiscuity through shame. Um, I mean there's like, you know, >> because we call them [ __ ] boys or
05:43:23
Bella (Econ)whatever, but >> Yeah. But I feel like that's just because they've we've fall not all experienced it, but majority have experienced it >> when we shouldn't have and they probably don't want to do that to guys because we
05:43:36
Brian Atlasknow how it feels. >> Well, I I just think that women are far more forgiving of it. And also, I think that there's just like in terms of what men and women value differently. Men do value, you guys might object to this
05:43:48
Brian Atlasterm, but men tend to value purity. This isn't just sexual purity. Men value uh purity. Women seem to care less than men do about this. And um
05:44:01
Brian Atlas>> we are in Isa Vista, though. >> Sure. Yeah, there's obviously differences. This isn't the case for everybody. I would just I would also just add that um
05:44:13
Brian Atlaslike a a guy who's otherwise really attractive >> Mhm. >> that is good. >> A guy who's really attractive, but he's he's a playboy. He just sleeps with a bunch of women, he's still going to be
05:44:25
Brian Atlasattractive to a lot of women. Like if you look at famous musicians, you look at famous actors, these men have no shortage of like they've slept typically. They sleep with a lot of women.
05:44:37
Brian AtlasThis doesn't this doesn't act as a deterrence at all for women typically because their either good looks or their status or whatever it is supersedes
05:44:48
Brian Atlasthat component. But if a woman is a superstar or whatever, like a famous musician, whatever, whatever, there'd be a greater proportion of men, if if it was known that she like got around, slept with a
05:45:00
Brian Atlasbunch of people, like a much smaller proportion of men would be willing to tolerate uh that sort of thing. And there's just differences between men and women. Also, I would say it's really it's typically uh >> Why do you think that is?
05:45:14
Brian AtlasWell, I mean, there's a whole bunch of reasons, but I would just add that it's really easy for a woman to be a [ __ ] >> It's pretty hard for a guy to be a [ __ ] >> I just
05:45:26
Brian Atlas>> like, and I could frame it a little differently if you have objections there. >> More women can be [ __ ] than men can be [ __ ] >> No. >> So, pretty much any woman, regardless of her looks, like she could be
05:45:40
Brian Atlasunattractive. We'll just >> What's your definition of a [ __ ] though? Is that like >> somebody who sleeps with a lot of men? >> Okay. But >> that's a lot to you. >> Oh, I mean it varies. Um I'll save I'll give you my answer a little later on in
05:45:51
Brian Atlasthe conversation though, just cuz I don't want to preempt it. But uh almost any woman if she wanted to could be a [ __ ] >> She might not want to, but she has the
05:46:01
Brian Atlascapability any woman has the capability of being a [ __ ] regard honestly regardless of her looks. Like if she wants dick, she can
05:46:10
Brian Atlasget dick. However, I think the threshold for men to just easily get sex is a bit higher. And I'm not saying that this is
05:46:21
Brian Atlaskind of an indictment of men that uh men will just throw away their standards for looks even just to get casual sex. >> That's what I'm saying. Like they'll pay
05:46:32
Marifor puss and I say that if they're not even getting it like that. So like they're always going to be able to be a hoe no matter what. But I guess to my point is
05:46:44
Brian Atlasthe reason that some men view it as like it takes some degree of skill as a guy to just sleep with a bunch of women. >> Not really. >> Yeah. It takes a bit of skill or you
05:46:55
Brian Atlashave to be bringing either skill game. Women don't need game. Just show up. You can get laid. >> But men can also bring like if the guy's really obscenely good-looking or he has
05:47:07
Brian Atlasstatus like he's a famous musician actor >> like that. Well, when I say skill, it could be game. Like he's got that would translate also to his >> Yeah. I just think it's just so much
05:47:18
Marimore impactful when a girl has sex versus when a guy has sex. I don't know why. >> I'm not sure what that means, but >> I just feel like there maybe maybe there's sometimes more feelings involved with the woman because of like science
05:47:30
Marireasons. There's more >> chemicals released. >> Sure. I just I just feel like guys are more capable of doing it because they're able to do it more heartlessly.
05:47:42
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I think there's a probably a fair argument there. Women I release like I don't know the specific hormone or something when they have sex that men >> either don't or >> and guys have more ter what testosterone
05:47:54
Brian Atlasor whatever. So they're capable. >> Some men have have a higher sex drive. >> Yeah. So they're capable of having >> generally speaking. Not to say there's definitely women who have higher sex drive than some men. >> Yeah. For sure. for sure. Yeah.
05:48:05
Brian Atlas>> But yes, men have a stronger sex drive than women due to testosterone. So, but uh even then though um again I don't think we should like it's we should big
05:48:15
Brian Atlasup men who just sleep with a bunch of women. But I can understand it like men can deem it actually both genders can
05:48:23
Brian Atlasdeem it more impressive for a man to sleep around because that would point to something about him that he's doing or
05:48:34
Brian Atlasthat he some trait he has. And we know this just simply by the fact that majority of men just can't be [ __ ] Most men, like every single girl at this table, every single every single girl at
05:48:47
Brian Atlasthis table, if she was so inclined, you guys could [ __ ] tonight. Even you could hop on Tinder, get some last minute fun tonight.
05:48:56
Brian Atlas>> We're so good guy. >> Most men, 90 97% most women are not willing to just quickly do something like that. Like there's a bit more of a
05:49:06
Mariprocess typically. Not all the time, but >> Yeah. But they have more options. >> Like every single one of y'all could get late tonight if you wanted to. Me? [ __ ]
05:49:20
Daniela (DT260)>> Fine. Why are you so hard on yourself? >> You like said that like waiting for us to go. >> Yeah. To be like, "No, >> no, I don't don't. No, don't say no." >> No, you looked around. You looked around. >> I don't see that. That's not the implication. Like
05:49:32
Brian Atlas>> validation. >> Not the implication. Um, I mean, we can test this out super easily. Like the the ease with which men and women can get laid.
05:49:42
Brian Atlas>> Um, anybody here down to hook up and be my girlfriend ever after the show? >> What? >> Going around the table.
05:49:54
Brian Atlas>> I feel like this is directed to >> just thinking about it. >> I don't do I don't do like casual hookup culture. >> I know. I'm I only do relationships. after this show.
05:50:05
Brian Atlas>> Is this an E date? >> Are we third? My >> turn. >> Do we need to leave? >> No. >> No. >> No comment. >> Well, some of y'all I feel like maybe if you're in relationships, maybe you don't have to answer, but >> why don't >> Huh?
05:50:19
Brian Atlas>> No. >> I understand. >> Politely. No. >> Okay, whatever. I'm not That was an actual a genuine proposition, by the way. But this idea like that wasn't a
05:50:31
Mariproposition. I sound like you want to know specific answers. You didn't go around the whole point. >> But you got a yes. >> Wait, what? Who said yes? >> What? What about me? >> You said yes.
05:50:43
SPEAKER_12>> No, I didn't. What? No, I didn't. I said I don't I said I don't I said I don't do But that wasn't a no. >> I said I don't do casual hookup culture with anyone. >> Yeah, you said you don't do hookup culture. He said me neither. You're like that's perfect.
05:50:56
Brian Atlas>> I didn't say that's perfect. I mean, there is a ring here, but um >> uh what was I saying? No, but this idea like you women, you could just offer some
05:51:08
Brian Atlas[ __ ] You could offer it. You offer it on the silver platter, guys. You go out to IV, whatever. >> Go up to a guy, hey, do you want to hook up? >> You could if you wanted to. It'd be Don't do it. >> Down bad.
05:51:20
Brian Atlas>> 10. You could sleep with 10 dudes in the night. 10 guys in the night. >> Like physically, I don't know how that would that's like a lot. That's a lot. >> Bonnie Blue did more than that. >> Don't be Don't be Bonnie Blue. Don't be Bonnie Blue. Um, >> is that real?
05:51:33
Brian Atlas>> I think it is, unfortunately. >> But yeah, go ahead, Bill. >> Oh, I thought you were going to ask something. >> No. >> No. Okay. >> Thanks. >> Uh, Cody, she left. So, okay, whatever. Um,
05:51:45
Brian Atlaslet's see. We have Oh, we have some chats here. I'm going to let these come through then. >> Vector donated $200. Chair one is the claim of feminism that
05:51:57
SPEAKER_00women are just as capable as men in general. If so, why is feminism necessary? Why is it necessary to advertise, hey, I'm a woman. I'm just as capable as men.
05:52:09
Shona (DT260)>> I think my understanding and belief when it comes to feminism is like men and women have inherent differences. Men are better at certain things. Women are better at certain things. But like my belief when it comes to
05:52:21
SPEAKER_00>> up >> pasty George donated $200. A lot of Western women, especially those infected with feminism, even the ugly ones, can easily get sex more so than
05:52:33
Shona (DT260)the average man. Only the top tier guys can get [ __ ] anytime they want. >> Yeah, that's true. Women can access sex a lot more easily. But what I was saying earlier is just like my belief when like
05:52:45
Shona (DT260)I don't the word feminism like >> like there's like radical feminism. Sure. So like I I don't always like use that label, but I just believe in women being able to pursue what they want and like have agency to make the decisions
05:52:57
Brian Atlasthey want overall. >> But like men and women have their inherent differences. >> All right, we have uh Kira here with
05:53:08
Brian Atlasyour notes. You said that uh the craziest dating story. You were in high school, got out of a three-year relationship, rebounded a couple weeks later with your guy best friend. Crazy
05:53:19
Brian Atlastales. Uh you also dated a co-orker one time and he cheated on you while you guys were long distance. You only found out by going through his messages. So
05:53:28
Brian Atlasthat's also a pretty crazy story. Um cool. That's it. Yeah. Um >> thanks for narrating that. >> You're welcome. Uh, I think you said
05:53:40
Brian Atlassocial media shapes people's views on what a relationship ought to look like. >> Uh, and then you also said long distance not worth it unless it's like going to, you know, it's your future husband. Um,
05:53:51
Brian Atlasyou wrote here another hot take is that you don't really like the concept of dating apps when looking for a serious relationship. >> Well, I agree with that. >> I agree, but I wanted to maybe parse
05:54:03
Brian Atlasthis out a little bit. You said when looking for a serious relationship, but have you have you and or well, you're in you're dating somebody now, right? Did you use it for casual dating?
05:54:14
Kira>> I Well, that was I just kind of threw that out there because I think it's an interesting topic, but I don't have I've never been on a dating app. This is coming from like people in my life because I have a lot of friends who use them. >> Okay. Anybody here currently on the
05:54:28
Maridating app? Just show of hands. Just curious. Okay, that's pretty good. They're bad. Don't do it. Don't do it. You're on the dating app. Oh my goodness. That's crazy. >> Why? What happened? What makes you think they're bad? >> This girl,
05:54:41
Brian Atlas>> they are bad. >> They're just like Oh my god. Um >> I can't even talk to you. >> Uh you said in your notes, maybe there's these are old. You said you got arrested
05:54:52
Brian Atlasfor a felony. >> You went to school off Molly. You went to high school parties with your ex alcoholic mother. You partied with your mom. Yeah, she was going through it because >> Wait, can you scoot the mic to the edge of the table?
05:55:04
Brian Atlas>> Um, she was going through it. I don't want to bring all of this up, but >> Okay, you don't need to talk about your mom. You said you were in a mental hospital. >> Yeah, when I was like 19. >> Good times. Uh, oh, these are your old notes here. I'll do your new notes. Uh,
05:55:16
Brian Atlasso you do do of you engage in small penis humiliation. >> Oh, yeah. So >> you humiliate men for >> So one of my biggest cl
05:55:26
Mari>> One of my biggest clients are clients that um have a humiliation in the size of their, you know, and they like to like sit
05:55:38
Marithere and just like listen to you make fun of them and like um call them names and all this. >> So you get paid to humiliate them.
05:55:50
Brian Atlas>> It's good. degradation or whatever. >> Uh you on one of your >> profiles you say you're goddess of your dreams. >> Pretty petite 24-year-old Colombian that will drain the out of you.