WALK OFF?! Andrew Wilson vs. RAGING Feminist?! BOW Video 2.0?! She TESTED Him?! | Dating Talk #202

Date: 2024-10-07

Duration: 7h 54m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Chat(audience)

SPEAKER_02Rachel(guest)

SPEAKER_03Elby(guest)

SPEAKER_04Emma(guest)

SPEAKER_05Arina/Bianca (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12TTS/Chat(audience)

SPEAKER_13Unknown guest (lawyer aspirant)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Irene(guest)

Key Moments

IntroFull guest introduction round: Arina, Rachel, Bianca, Elby, Emma, Morgan, Ana, Brian Atlas, Andrew Wilson.

“hi my name is Arina ... my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible”

OtherArina reveals she loyalty-tested a new boyfriend one week after he asked her to be his girlfriend. DMd 20 women from his following list; he agreed to fly them out. He broke up with her when he found out, citing health issues and family problems.

“I got to I got to ask ... I DM'd 20 girls from his following list”

Key MomentSelf-ratings round. Guests rate looks 1-10 (no 7). Arina=8, next guests=6.5. Andrew Wilson jokes he is a 10. Discussion of whether women peak in attractiveness with age.

“ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10 you can't pick seven ... probably eight ... 6 and a half”

ControversyBOW video 2.0 shown. Brian asks if women would bow for their partner. Panel largely refuses. Andrew points out contradiction: women perform sexual acts for near-strangers but won't bow for a committed partner.

“boom huge bow huge bow ... the same woman that says I would never bow for a man will suck a guy's dick within 30 minutes of meeting him”

ControversyAndrew Wilson debates Irene on whether tarot cards are compatible with Christianity, citing Leviticus 19:26 and 20:27. Irene defends her practice as a personal spiritual gift and says she is still rediscovering her faith.

“Leviticus 1926 do not practice divination or seek Omens ... you're doing both divination and seeking omens”

ControversyAndrew Wilson argues women's suffrage destroyed the United States by shifting voting patterns toward security/risk-aversion over freedom. Claims men-only voting would have produced better outcomes.

“women's suffrage absolutely destroyed the United States of America”

OtherBrian mentions at end of show that a girl walked off during the stream; plans to post behind-the-scenes footage in Discord. Walkoff not captured clearly in main transcript — referenced only in closing segment.

“BTS maybe we'll post the BTS of that girl who walked off”

OtherBrian announces fundraiser for Mason, a former guest in a severe motorcycle accident with 10% survival odds. $3,400 raised via GiveSendGo; Brian personally donated $1,500.

“he was in a severe motorcycle accident ... 10% chance of survival ... we were able to raise $3,400”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status round

Guests introduce themselves: Arina (20, CSUF), Rachel (39, Vancouver server), Bianca (22, care provider), Elby (22, UCI pre-optometry), Emma (22, communications), Morgan (18, SBCC soccer), Ana (19, UCSB). Andrew Wilson introduced as co-host. Each guest shares relationship history.

Loyalty testing / Arina's boyfriend loyalty test story

Arina describes loyalty-testing a new boyfriend by DMing 20 women from his following list after one date. He failed by agreeing to fly girls out. Panel debates whether loyalty testing is justified. Andrew Wilson frames it as a crystal-ball thought experiment about foreknowledge.

Paternity tests and trust in relationships

Brian asks whether panelists would agree to a paternity test if requested by a husband. Majority say they would but would be hurt by the lack of trust.

Female submission and masculinity in relationships

Andrew Wilson argues optimal relationships have women deferring to men. Discussion of empathy, narcissism, masculinity. Andrew argues men are biologically designed for low empathy. Irene defends balance and Christian ethics of submission.

Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)

Guests rate their own looks 1-10 (no 7). Ratings extracted: Arina=8, Rachel/Bianca unclear, Elby ~6.5, Emma ~6.5, Morgan unknown. Brian passes. Andrew jokes he is a 10. Discussion follows about whether women get better-looking with age.

Aging / do women peak discussion

Brian asks if guests will be more attractive in 10/20/30/40 years. Arina claims she will keep improving until death. Andrew and Brian rebut with the concept of aging market value. Discord members use an aging AI filter on two of the guests.

Romance declining / chivalry

Panel discusses whether romance and chivalry are declining. Consensus is yes; causes attributed to hookup culture, social media, feminism, and Trudeau (Rachel).

BOW Video 2.0 — would women bow for their man

Brian shows a viral 'BOW video' of a woman bowing when her boyfriend arrives. Panelists asked if they would bow. Most refuse. Irene (SPEAKER_14) refuses citing it is not her culture (uses bow for elders). Brian and Andrew point out the contradiction: women will perform sexual acts for near-strangers but refuse a bow for a committed partner.

Christian faith and tarot cards — Irene debate with Andrew

Andrew challenges Irene's claim of being Christian while practicing tarot cards, citing Leviticus 19:26 and 20:27 (divination/necromancy). Irene argues she is still rediscovering her faith and believes she has a gift from God. Andrew argues she suffers from confirmation bias.

Women working vs. staying home / gender roles

Andrew argues most women would choose not to work given the option, and smart women should raise children rather than waste intelligence in corporate jobs. SPEAKER_13 (career-focused guest) pushes back, saying she wants to be a lawyer and always work.

Andrew Wilson debate: women's suffrage and voting patterns

Andrew argues women's suffrage destroyed the US by causing risk-averse voting patterns that impede freedoms. Claims men voting alone would have resulted in better outcomes.

Dating market hypergamy and internet's effect on dating

Andrew walks through hypergamy argument: internet opened global dating pool, women now compete for top 5-10% of men, men receive few DMs while women receive thousands. Both agree internet destroyed localized dating. DM count comparison around panel.

Body count discussion

Brian asks if men are insecure for caring about body count. Rachel says yes; others say no. Brief panel discussion on whether body count matters in relationships.

Closing segment: pickup lines, Discord aging photos reveal, final bow

Panel shares best pickup lines. Discord reveals AI-aged photos of two guests. Brian asks for final bow volunteers; one guest agrees. Brian mentions a fundraiser for 'Mason' (previous guest in a severe motorcycle accident, 10% survival chance, currently in hospital, $3,400 raised).

Transcript

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Andrew Wilsonhere's my body and I like hiking and walks on the beach and all that right that's all you got to do yeah and then the guy from Ohio finds you right

Andrew Wilsonyeah yeah yeah and so this this is this is the if you want to know what destroyed all of dating it's not really more complex than that I think that

Andrew Wilsonwomen's Liberation and all of this type of thing uh leads to the idea of um of basically reducing the moral grounding to the point where women will engage in

Brian Atlashypergamy but I think the internet's what destroyed dating um I'm that's what we said though yeah I'm I'm just to hopefully get

Andrew Wilsonthrough as much as we can you you did and I I'm agreeing with you but I'm I'm showing you bigger problem which is hypergamy and that's what you weren't

Brian Atlasalluding to right so okay um let me just get through the couple things that we need to get through I got to get through the notes

Brian Atlasso uh let's see do you guys think men are insecure if they care about body

Rachelcount I would say yes okay uh no I don't I don't think it's

Elbyinsecurity um like them being insecure about like our body count mhm do do you think men are insecure if they care about body

Brian Atlascount no not really no no no okay um who said I think you said yes was it just

Brian Atlasyou who said yes okay all right um so do you think body count like doesn't matter or shouldn't matter I feel

Brian Atlaslike I feel like it shouldn't matter okay uh so question for the panel what's your body count starting with

Brian AtlasAna two and then going to you two

Rachelme no I was just more like looking at you and seeing your reaction to your friend who you know very well oh dude I only known her for like 3 weeks oh okay

Rachelall right well body count uh yeah I hi hi yeah yeah cuz I I was I was a drinker

RachelMH very that's what I was I said in like back in the days I'm going get to your but uh yeah actually made a list because of this show oh well because I was like

Andrew WilsonI was like yeah I was like I was like ohly you got the list uh of names I can you read the list I don't want to read the list give no you don't have to read the list but we need but I have the

Rachellist and it's like honestly it's like over and I was like holy like it's yeah it's the old me so I you know that's what it is but honestly I think what's the number I think it was like oh at

TTS/Chatleast 50 I think it was 100 100 I feel like at that point like if you're making a list like you're probably like forgetting a couple you know tomore Stone donated

TTS/Chat$75 selective deviances are PA for the course no one answered the question Andrew is a Boss Brian is a killer too the 1% will always Prevail body count

Rachelmatters LOL yo Tom Stone thank you very much for the uh TTS man really appreciate it thank you thank you thank you uh yeah you were saying like you about some and you you kind of do and the things like as I started doing it

Rachellike a two days like you know like your your your brain keeps working when you're not like thinking about it and I was like oh yeah oh yeah and some some guys I didn't even remember names and some guys I'm going to be honest with this cuz it's not cool but I you

Rachelknow I was a problematic I was an alcoholic right like some guys I I like I was like did I or did I not and I was like you don't remember and I don't think yeah and like I don't think I

Rachelcould have talked about it now like look yeah you know after one year of sobriety I don't think I would have been ready but now it's like it's such like so long go but yeah it's not I'm not proud of it but it's it's real it's did you go

Racheldid you do chronologically for the list you're think I you kind of do because you because you know you need to do the list that's the only way you can do yeah but then then it comes back and then also some come some guys I had to write

Rachellike like coffee you know what I mean like oh you don't remember the name no but then it would come back later and I was like H but um okay so over 100 I

Rachelthink it was around a 100 yeah okay one so wait really two

Brian Atlasthree multiply by three and that's the real number andw it um

Irenethree mhm okay I do not want to share oh how about the range you want to give us a range no thank like 10 to 20 I just feel like it doesn't have anything

Brian Atlasto do with the conversation cuz I agree that body count matters well I mean it that's fair but it does kind of have to do with the conversation but if you don't want to answer hey that's

Brian Atlasfine over 10 okay all right all right okay three oh my God I have to answer the question okay three bro there's too many girl

Brian Atlassorry bro you no way I don't believe okay sister Sor go ahead Emma under 10 under 10 okay

Brian Atlasbro I can tell you're lying dude she's

Brian Atlaslying I don't know you're telling stories about sing the D and like come on but I feel like three that come on wait no I don't I don't do that you

Brian Atlassaid man my friend I got to tell her like she can't be sing the D too soon like I'm looking out from my girlfriend she can't be sucking all that dick so quickly

Elbythat's what you were saying yeah real real yes what's the sing the D count then hundreds dude I don't even know that I

Brian Atlasagain I don't know for like three weeks though all right okay all right uh oh here's a question would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or random bear a

Brian Atlasbear it depends is it a room or we talking about the woods so here's the scenario you get spawned into the woods and then you there's a button two

Brian Atlasbuttons and you can press one button a random man spawns or a random bear

Brian Atlasspawns I mean a bear is in its element when it's in the woods right but because it's the random spawn the the why is the man in the

Brian Atlasforest he just randomly gets he was in his office in Chicago boom you hit the button oh I'm now

Brian Atlasin the woods okay and so that's the condition the condition is it's a random man Rand so you can't be like why is this in the woods no you just press the button that's why he's in

Elbythe woods no no no like the condition is he's like in Chicago it's a random ass it doesn't have to be Chicago I love Chicago he could also be in Utah or

Brian AtlasIdaho or tell you what I'll exclude Alaskan Hawaii because it's not contigous contigous Andrew help Andrew having trouble oh is it contiguous

Brian Atlascontiguous so we'll exclude Alaska and Hawaii okay so 48 the 48 states bottom States okay a random man from those States

Brian Atlasspawns we can also exclude Puerto Rico go ahead okay and Guam I'd say I'd say and other US territories go ahead I'd say a

Ireneman okay a man same here man mhm man wait so who said did somebody say bear you're the only bear why do you

Arina/Bianca (mixed)pick bear cuz I think bears are cute and cudd what I would

Unknown minormind oh boy okay they're not dude girl what I'm just gonna go in there and tell them what

Andrew WilsonHapp yeah why why would this have happened bro this remote

Brian Atlasappearance what the wait can you mute it Austin here just mute the um I think they're just trying to figure out the

Brian AtlasDiscord uh so okay you pick bear uh because they're cute and cuddly okay that's good answer that's wonderful okay I'll just rapid fire the rest uh who is the primary victim of war men or

Brian Atlaswomen the reason for war men no no primary victim who's the primary victim of war men or women so you know if you get shot and you die you're like a

Brian Atlasvictim kind of that whole thing woman uh wait I kind of that up but okay oh women primary victim of War M okay no men men okay men

Brian Atlasyeah men Yes Men of course men men all right is it wrong for a man to not want to date

Brian Atlasthis is definitely a dating question wrong for man to not want to date a trans woman H people have different preferences so

Elbyvalid okay no I don't think it's wrong okay no I don't think it's wrong no no all right are men or women physically

Brian Atlasstronger that's woman oh men men what what men oh I sorry I thought you said women did anybody else

Unknown guest (lawyer aspirant)hear women yeah men I said men okay men men men

Brian Atlaswoman actually ridiculous I think Andrew's texting me hold on um you think women are physically

Brian Atlasstronger why is

Brian Atlasthat I just feel like we can be but that's not the question sure yeah there are some women that are stronger than some men

Brian Atlassure but I'm asking in general like are women okay let me ask you a question are women shorter than men yes are men taller than

Brian Atlaswomen yes are there some women that are taller than men yes yeah but generally speaking men are taller right M but you will this also apply to are men or women physically

Brian Atlasstronger men are stronger my God okay um well done we we we fixed you uh can you be sexist towards

Elbymen yes yeah of course yes I think so yeah can you be racist towards white

Brian Atlaspeople it's not dating that's not a dating question it's kind of dating no not at all you want it there but it's not dating I'll get it there I'll get it there just wait just wait I'll get it there trust

Rachelme yes

Elbyyeah she wants to say no yeah you want to say no just say what

Elbywhat you mean no say what you mean what you think I think as of lately yeah based on based on just like in

Elbyconversations um hearing other people talk and I'm like okay I mean yeah that's a little extreme but H

Brian Atlasokay yes you can be racist to anyone and anything all right there you have it let's see oh the feminist one um oh do

Rachelyou think you're oppressed yes oh my God girl no nope no no no why you pressed she wants a bit of

Brian Atlasattention eh we'll give you a bit of attention here you go all right go ahead uh you're op pressed go ahead Andrew Andrew's bugged Boys by the way Andrew's bugged Andrew's bugged he will be back

Brian Atlashe will be back patience patience young Jedi what the did I just oh my God please smack me and then don't Smack me you've got a strong it's the it's the geek inside of you strong since women

Brian Atlasare stronger it's true yeah it's true it's true um let's see do you beat up your boyfriend denissa have you ever him up like you you wouldn't do

Arina/Bianca (mixed)close for this but you'd smack him right into you into the Miche yeah I could definitely beat him in a fight because women are stronger than

Brian Atlasmen I'm got to hit that button button just letting you know if it's misdemeanor battery the statute even misdemeanor battery the statute of limitations hasn't you've only been

Brian Atlasdating the guy for four months just wait six more months you can admit to being a a man beater okay all

Brian Atlasright uh let's see uh do we need men yes yeah yeah yes mhm what years were World War I and World War

Brian AtlasTwo what years were World War I and World War II I have no idea

Racheluh World War I I'm not sure World War II is around the 19402 4 wait you have to guess just take a guess World War I take a

Brian Atlasguess just give me a decade you don't got to give me date range start end give me a decade 19

Brian Atlassomething you want to finish the last two digits that's not a decade that's a that's a century that's a century that's a century it you you you got the right Century I shouldn't have told you that

Brian Atlasgo ahead take a guess before Christ or like BC or AC

Brian Atlaswhat or is it ad I don't know 1920 okay uh World War I World War II

Elbydate or decade my bad yeah I think was it World War II being 1940

Elby1950 and then World War I was like 1930 199 yeah mhm what about you okay

Irenethese are just guesses like yeah um maybe 1922 for World War I and for World War II

Unknown guest (lawyer aspirant)1954 their guesses the is uh go ahead um World War I I would say around

Brian Atlas1940 actually no no no no um go ahead and then World War II no because I'm thinking about when my grandma was deported deported well I'm

Unknown guest (lawyer aspirant)from Europe which well my grandma she was deported from Estonia to Russia and that was during 1940s so I'm just going to say World War

Emmashe was 1940s okay Emma 13 37 is okay

Brian Atlasthat's is okay uh World War II uh 37

Brian Atlasis be before Christ like BC no or ad n

Emma1937 oh you were saying 30 set 30 no no no 19 13 no wait 19 1913 and

Brian Atlas1937 is not bad not bad all right good job that was good what is the answer what are the answers uh World War I 1914 1918

Brian AtlasWorld War II 1939 1945 so some people were kind of kind of close kind is Andrew doing a little better or is he still he's bugged

Brian Atlasboys he's bugged boys nice uh let's see here and then I'm going to get through the notes really quick we're going to do a row session then we're going to wrap the show so do we have a Raquel we do

Rachelhave a Rael Rael Rael Rachel yeah Rael Rael is the Facebook thing

Ireneum do you guys want to share the conversation you guys are oh sorry we're just talking about like history remembering the date for yeah oh yeah of

Brian Atlascourse yeah I get yeah I do that all the time I mean it is all W you're so far from the mic that's wonderful um sorry

Brian Atlasbeing a little sassy here getting tired okay

Brian Atlasuh Canada Canada can

Rachelon Canadian canadi Patriot to Patriot uh

Brian Atlaspatriotic to De Patriot Patriot like they must be patriotic no come uh how do you say it in French yeah

Brian AtlasP Patriot Patriot Patriot we are Patriot your RS are really

Brian Atlasgood can

Brian Atlas[Music] mhm I'm sure people love it on to the

Brian Atlasneighbor Canada mhm uh

Brian Atlasproper mer uh my French isn't I'm trying to say some I'm trying to say some deep how about this

Brian Atlasto

Brian Atlasoh because you think you think it's good

Brian Atlasconfidence okay

Brian Atlasyou guys like that all right wipe yourselves ladies no you guys you guys at the table the viewers okay chill out ladies chill out

TTS/Chatput it keep your pants on just kidding yeah cuz you what the all right bro all right um okay Ro yes you said you come from a culture of

Brian Atlasbars and restaurants so getting and in and kissing Anybody Everybody each other and thinking that this is just the norm trying to find love in the worst places people because the concept of love that you have is

Brian Atlasmessed up but there's the recovery growth and wisdom that come from a past and I feel that's a very important part of dating that is rarely touched on the fact that humans question themselves hopefully lull and become better and

Brian Atlaswiser even than someone who doesn't do the Wild Thing yeah so you had a c i mean we talked about the body count uh you were working in bars and restaurants and clubs

Rachelgetting it's it's the norm you know like everybody behind the bar have you ever on the bar no not I mean sometimes like yeah I mean everything happens like no in the bathroom or whatever but it's like everybody gets so

Rachelshitfaced nobody you know everybody just it just doesn't matter like there's no kind of importance in it you know like being with someone there's an intimacy there's something special about it and

Brian Atlasbut that's just gone when everybody's drunk H okay and then you also said I have an ex narcissist oh boy uh boyfriend who destroyed my self-esteem

Brian Atlasthe guy on a positive note forced me to rebuild myself and take my take of reality and regain confidence in myself could also be interesting to talk about the man I fell in love with when I was 25 but I was getting up on booze

Racheland cheated on him and broke up with him even if I loved him very very incredibly much mhm so again like that culture of like the drinking and like going going out and

Rachelkissing anybody whatever it's like I had a really good guy that I really loved and he really loved me but I was just so caught up in you know but just like a shitty self-esteem and like that's why

Rachellike it comes going like drinking and kissing and it's like you it's like you think you gain value from that you think you like you need love so much M and you

Rachelthink that the only way to get love or you think that love means that you have to give sex like when you give sex this is when you have value this is how you think of

Rachelthings and when you have that very messed up concept then you you mess you could mess up really like great relationship fair and I think it cuz

Rachellike with that comes like this idea of like um the Emancipation you know of woman like it's like you're liberating liberating to to have sex and just be

Brian Atlaslike casual and whatever well I is this a Bob Marley song uh what's that song Iman wait anybody know what you know what I'm talking about Austin you're you're a music guy I don't know

Rachelemancipation song I think you're talking about Redemption song Oh Redemption Song I emancipation no maybe there's another one emancipation song but like you know

Rachelthis yeah I just think this idea that like you're just you love casual you don't need anything you don't want anything from men I just think it's a lie I don't think it's true and I think alcohol really messes up with that whole

Brian Atlasthing because when you drink you know you just don't care anymore in your notes you did also say that uh why I wasn't ready to accept a good man like

Brian Atlasthis and how the the guy you cheated on uh that you loved uh and how I messed everything up because I was partying and lost and and just unable to communicate didn't understand myself didn't know how to care for someone or how to let

Brian Atlassomeone care for me as long as you don't love yourself properly you can't be in a relationship there's all this backstory to why you choose every single person you date what are you getting from them according to the concept of love you have and what you learn from it or

Brian Atlasshould learn from it you said I'd love to talk about honesty towards oneself um you said modern dating I'm going to skip that one but you said uh

Brian Atlasmodern dating is like McDonald's it's Just Junk it's quick it's fake it demands the least amount of effort and it doesn't focus on what you really need online dating is weird although

Brian AtlasI'm not against it I don't know like sometimes you can like cop a In and Out Burger you know yeah I just think it dep what you're at least like it's like good ingredients but like it's but is it

Rachelreally fulfilling I don't know I eat yeah yeah you're asking but but that's what I mean like you're going to much but how how really is going to like you should choose things in life that really fulfill you that really

Rachelmakes you feel peaceful that makes you feel you know that that makes you grow that makes you a better person does the whatever Burger makes you that I don't

Brian Atlasthink so maybe I'm wrong maybe uh Katarina wait wait Katarina hold on

Brian Atlaskerina Katarina yes where you from by the way like uh uh Estonia Estonia okay you speak Estonian mhm Russian too that's cool you said your in your

Unknown guest (lawyer aspirant)pre-show notes it said you were in a relationship yeah I was um I was just confused kind of how to answer that question because it was in the middle of everything you know and I didn't want to

Brian Atlasjust say something until it was finalized but yeah MH but so you're single correct I am single now uh you think you have a lot of different crazy situations happen in your dating life um

Brian Atlasbut I want to emphasize the difference I encountered from dating in Europe compared to dating in the US and you moved from Europe three years ago so you prefer the US guys or european um I I do think that in Europe

Unknown guest (lawyer aspirant)they have more of um like people commit commit to Serious relationships especially at my age more often than here at least where I'm from from Eastern Europe and I think a part

Unknown guest (lawyer aspirant)of it has to do with like um Western media less affecting Eastern Europe less yes like your uh West Europe and Eastern Europe are completely different completely different and me and because

Unknown guest (lawyer aspirant)of the media is affecting way less countries like Estonia Finland you know even Russia Belarus um I think the dating is more healthy over there I noticed that in America like I mentioned

Unknown guest (lawyer aspirant)with the social media and everything it's just it's way harder to to find someone who I guess really is trying to work problems out I think

Unknown guest (lawyer aspirant)people back out on the first try they can get as soon as things get a little bit hard they just back out here that's what I noticed one of the main things has anybody here ever had a

Brian Atlasthreesome not me shove

Brian Atlashands anybody going once never no reasons why don't you believe it

Brian Atlassomething you want to tell us okay just going to you actually on your notes you said your talking stage lasted for seven months I learned a lot from that experience and I will never allow myself

Brian Atlasto extend the talking stage to that length ever again I think this sort of situation is actually quite common rather than unique but its nature is a

Elbybit ridiculous yes so um usually I think

Elbyin general the talking stage for like uh like a between like people in a relationship or trying to pursue a relationship is usually 3 months

Elbyum I think that's usually the average time of like when a guy decides like okay I I want to commit but we I'm it's

Elbypretty like I I think it was more of a transitionary phrase like this person was uh about to graduate and move back to their Hometown so um didn't want to admit it that it was a transition your

Elbyphas but I like already accepted that it was I was part of that point in their life that I was pretty much the transition and so it it extended for a bit too long cuz I was just waiting like

Elbyokay like are you going to ask me out or are you not going to ask me out and we

Elbydefinitely did the thing that should be technically done after as being asked out but or like after establishing like

Elbyexclusivity but we didn't so matching tattoos no oh um but I definitely did extend it I don't know what are you talking

Elbyabout like like things you know um yeah like third base Third Base so Third Base so

Elbylike damn I I I feel like I I didn't you know I I was kind of holding on to it a little bit third third base wait you were holding on to wait I'm

Elbysorry I mean wait holding what were you wait holding on to what sorry like holding on to the fact that like oh like we could possibly be something because I've already gave a lot to you oh that

Brian Atlaskind of holding on my bad I thought you were okay sorry no bro I'm not holding on to like a dick like a hose while they're peeing yeah that that's why I was asking cuz

Brian Atlasyou you were like Brian would oh okay all right is that like what you're into or no actually you just revealed a lot of

Brian Atlasinformation there I don't know look hey some girls like to be peed on good for you oh not my thing personally I don't think it's a lot of people's things but

Brian Atlashey we're not going to we're not going to yuck your yum weird this is an inclusive space this is a safe space if you like to golden golden

Elbyshowers your friend seems to know something your friend here yeah because you're like literally telling the person the I mean who likes to be peed on no I

Brian Atlasdon't like to be peed on oh Sor sorry sorry sorry you don't oh son girl just trolling but is she no I don't like to

Elbyget peed on I don't I was joking about she knows she knows the story yeah she she she knows the story what's the

Elbystory tell him tell him what story do I have that you know water sip with your

Elbysituationship do I like do I do I like to get peed on or not oh oh oh no no no no no wrong person wrong person wrong person wrong person my bad oh

Production crewyeah of course of course of course so wait go ahead

Brian Atlassorry sorry I like lost sh of like yeah it's I yeah so you're talking about your seven Monon talking stage I think you were mentioning

Brian Atlassomething about um like he wanted to date you but then when you reveal to him that you have this PE fetish she kind of like wo wo wo he was like hold up dog he

Brian Atlaswas like ah man I liked you but now that you told me that this is weird like he wasn't accepting no dude I never got peed on like bro just look it's okay if

Elbyyou got peed on did no girl girl I think you asking the question to the wrong

Unknown minorgirl oh she wait she got peed on wait for real no no no no she likes

Brian Atlasit how do we start talking about peeing man yall crazy I I'm just trying to have like a wholesome dating podcast and youall start talking about like crazy that was you actually me that

Brian Atlaswas her no you said golden shower that was you who brought it up I'm Gaslight this whole thing she brought that up yeah you're gaslighting I'm gas right now look it's look it's okay look some

ElbyI'm not into that but but that's cool for you dog bro I'm not into that but that's cool for you bro I don't even no I don't like that dude like look it's okay I know it's like it's okay it's definitely it's okay if you're into it

Elbythough it's it's okay like I get it it's okay it's fine yeah like it's fine like if people if people like the fetish but I don't like that no but like be your

Elbytrue genuine self like why you got to front my true why you fronting bro I don't dude I don't like getting peed on but I definitely like getting like tied up it's oh

Brian Atlaswait huh word word yeah word by the way Andrew's coming back Andrew's coming back we're trying to get Andrew back by the way chat we're trying to get them back dude our personal is look Lally

Brian Atlasflipped bro I wasn't supposed to be what's it called uh sorry sorry uh the the tying up it's like shabbar bondage no but there's a

Elbysh BDSM sh oh shabar shabari what shabari Japanese bondage shabari like that kind of well that kind that is

Elbykind of like I I think it's aesthetic aesthetic girl it is yeah record next time no hell no I'm not doing that it's for it's for behind the

Brian Atlasdoors all right good talk um okay more getting through your notes here oh yes uh dating topics of Interest what are each other's red flags what is considered red flag from the other speakers how to know when to leave a

Brian Atlasrelationship that's a fun little topic that we can do pretty quickly um red flag like myself or guys in guys in you're the entire red flag girl I'm not

Arina/Bianca (mixed)a red flag I'm a green flag you entire red flag promise I'm a green flag bro where's the green it ain't even blinking oh I was going to wear green today girl wait you should have matched with me I

Arina/Bianca (mixed)know for real I would say

Arina/Bianca (mixed)see a guy that doesn't know how to communicate that gives no efforts and gaslighter

Elbymanipulator your situation can we open the doors your crushes call you all your

Elbyrelationships I'm quiet yeah dead ass no literally girl D dude the fact that we like entered this com this whole podcast with your situation is

Elbycrazy girl like girl see no that's the Pinnacle of red flag girl no I'm going through it right now too you guys from Compton or Orange County we from Orange [Music]

Brian AtlasCounty I'm from Anaheim there's a black person in here crime I'm from the bay be hey will you catch me at Seaside Bakery all right I guess all right if you're

ElbyNorCal I guess you get I guess you get the pass right yeah I get a pass how about you go I don't even want to say

Brian Atlasstuff like that the hell okay why you want to say stuff like that what the um got to have some re wait what's

Arina/Bianca (mixed)the difference between uh NorCal and SoCal Asians hey this is our right here

Elbyokay no no no go here so we're Seaside Bakery ticktockers we we Seaside Bakery no no no no you have to go first girl

Arina/Bianca (mixed)you to go first yeah let's see I would say with North Cal I feel like our our fashion is completely different go closer to the mic slur I thought you were doing this I

Arina/Bianca (mixed)was like no mic um I feel like our styles are very different I feel like with northcal hoodie sweatpants everyone's wearing hoodie and sweatpants but in

Arina/Bianca (mixed)SoCal like we got the Stuy we got the essentials Hearts Chrome Hearts right car Hearts car Hearts yeah car heart isn't it Chrome hearts that too I guess

Arina/Bianca (mixed)opium OPI what the we got the Opium fits and what else who's nicer you think cuz I feel like North Cow are more chill

Elbyand more like bro I think like NorCal is a like like NorCal guys are a bit more stoic and they are bit tougher than

Arina/Bianca (mixed)we're like much tougher like get into fights crimes and stuff and SoCal there's nothing like that SoCal guys are like soft soft boy what about like Texas Asians like you're from Texas right okay

ElbyCas Cash's a Tex oh my gosh bro I mean we honestly I only know like two Texans one being kesy

Elbyand then like Momo Momo we have a name Matt he's from Texas shout out he's a musician yeah he's a musician who the is that guy yeah dude you don't I

Brian Atlasmean he's chill no that me yo boys TTS is 20 TTS is 20 just let you know you guys want to get in R session Rose session I think I think like they're

Arina/Bianca (mixed)chill I don't know too much about Texans besides guns wait I do need advice though on what what happen if you like a

Arina/Bianca (mixed)guy and he says that he doesn't want a relationship but he but he found out you were with his friend last night and he

Arina/Bianca (mixed)confronted you about that so what yeah so you're talking to a dude mhm he doesn't want a relationship with you doesn't want a relationship with me you his boy I did not I

Brian Atlaswent to Seaside to create content with him and then him no I did not he's a Tik toer blow huh blowy no she didn't do bro no I didn't you you're the one telling her to to chill out on all the blow jobs said chill out

Arina/Bianca (mixed)on the blow job I swear to God she's probably watching this right now I swear to God no what's okay we didn't do anything we were and he's mad at you he's mad at me that you that I was that

Arina/Bianca (mixed)was hanging out with his friend at like 2: a.m. 400 a.m. the Lulu at Seaside but we're not exclusive we're not talking it's just like he just you guys smash

Brian Atlasno he's upset he's upset yeah that's probably that's probably a wrap it up like not condom use I mean

Rachellike just just that we need that well for him when I hear stories like that I'm just I'm just like why though H my I'm I'm just wondering why like what what is it that you're what is it that

Rachelyou're doing what is it that you want what I want like he doesn't want a relationship with you okay then you went to F uh to not whatever like did you do it out of spider or like you want like for attention so that the guy that you

Arina/Bianca (mixed)actually like did you was there like a sub text we just friends me and the guy that created content and seaside yeah we were just friends and we just wanted to

Rachelcreate content together at 2 a.m. okay and I did pick him up at his house but I mean you okay but you want to you want to be in a relationship with him just in general do

Rachelyou want do you want a committed relationship I would say like if I find the right person yes yes okay word I mean I'm just saying like so that guy that's mad at you

Rachelyou're not going to have a relationship with him anyways why like does it matter then if he's mad it's beautiful that's why I told so true you know what I mean like what is it that you're like what is that you're actually a thinking girl

Elbylike he has no he has no reason like to get mad exactly and that's why you should think of it as as not that deep and honestly check yourself that's what you can tell Che no not you check him

Brian Atlasyou need to check yourself before you wreck yourself fool it's crazy cuz you might know him you might maybe white

Brian Atlasguy I might know him you might know him H he's a I know like I know him probably

Brian AtlasLogan Logan is it Logan Paul Logan no Edward is it Edward Colin what that was a

Brian AtlasI'm Team Jacob though oh wait okay uh let's see here you said how I view relationships in love colon

Elbytransactional yes I'd like to talk about this so no no so um how I see the way uh like relationships are kind of in terms

Elbyof like self-fulfillment or like fulfillment through like another partner is transactional um so like when you're in a relationship with someone right you like that person you do things for them

Elbyin a way you're kind of expecting something back in return right you you love the person enough but like to be realistic there's always going to be some sort of limitation to how much you're going to give so let's let's say

Elbyum love right but let's turn it into a form of money you're a cashier your partner is a customer that goes to your like uh store every day let's say you um

Elbyyou gave them more charge of money like in return than they should get right so like this guy needs 50 cents but you gave him a dollar is the guy going to complain about the dollar no he's not

Elbygoing to complain about the dollar the more you keep making that sort of investment that like hey like I'll just keep giving him a dollar um and like

Elbyhopefully like you know uh things are okay bro going to keep taking it and taking it um sometimes in certain situations maybe the guy's like oh you

Elbyprobably overcharge me and then you're like oh okay but it's fine like it's it's just a couple of cents or whatever more they don't complain right the more you're going to lose business

Elbycuz you're not you're not keeping the exact amount of change you needed in exchange right so then you're going to be like a I need to run my

Elbybusiness I need to I need some money like I'm not getting anything in return um and so like matter of communication wise is obviously like hey checking in

Elbylike you're giving me a bit too much or you're giving me under you're undercharging me so that's why I like you could use money as an analogy to pretty much explain like fulfillment in

Elbyrelationships in terms of love how much love you give how much love you're lacking of and ways to really like go about it is just a matter of communication but some people are not

Brian Atlasreally as good as um communicating sort of needs or wants so yeah what can can

Brian Atlasanybody translate what she just I'm sorry can um that that was just

Rachellike I know man I'm yeah I did anybody follow what she was saying yeah so like if you get into a relationship where like you give you give you give and then you can create a Synergy where the other person's just going to take and take and

Elbytake and take if you don't have like good boundaries and you have figure those relationships well that's get into Financial Dom Matrix then get get into B you got the money and you want to spend

Elbyit all way bro there's girls out there like want other no what no but she she was doing an analogy do all this no but for me the money though if you got

Elbythe money like and you're like I want to spend it all on you like take my money take M get into final Financial Domin I'll take you though but you were making an an analogy yes that's I was just messing around with

Elbyhim but yeah okay so wait so just you do you view relationships as transactional or not the the matter of self like yeah like

Elbyself fulfillment or like fulfillment in a relationship in terms of needs and wants can be um like compared to I guess

Elbymoney cuz money has value right oh boy and love is is a value go again sorry go ahead go get go ahead you're good you're good it's like a currency money is a

Elbycurrency it is a currency but love that we should put that that is like he making an analogy I'm making an analogy

Elbybut money money is money and money is currency M but yeah um good talk yeah love love

Elbycan be compared to currency not saying that you have to quantize the amount but I mean it's just like okay

Elbylike uh like am I like am I do I want you to give me like 50/50 or 6040 whatever so I'm more of like a

Elby991 type ofy bro you should be the one that's like raining money on the women Financial dominat you know what I'm saying like no we were talking about a

Elbypay pigs yeah y pay pigs bro yeah bro I want to see some sock I want to see a little bit

Elbyof dog I'll I'll spend money on that like you could be that person and save a girl I can see that from poverty yes oordt

Elbystudy oord study no but it only applies to like like Asian women and men white men I'm just saying in general wait you don't know his type does he like Asian women wait he said his ex-girlfriend was

Elbydude that was a fake Tik Tok he's just saying that for the no that was actually my that was your actual girl there you go he likes Asian oh no that's for Asian you like Asian girls I like white girls

Brian Atlastoo do that for any kind of girl but it's like white asian pretty pretty equal and then you have like latinas and

Elbythen I love Latina crazy odari loves laas what what's crazy wait what's your type

Elbynerds I like nerds the type of nerds that I like they they got to be at least I mean guess attractive and attract

Elbyattraction is subjective but I like the Nerds that um definitely have like a like a like a niche interest like it

Elbycould be could be like math or it could be like Comics or it could be like is it Star Wars War

ElbyLegos Rubik's Cube bro if a man could do Rubik's Cube within like 1 to 3 minutes

ElbyGod how ethnicity wise Asian Asian yeah that's why we're different yeah that's why we're different you whitewashed as hell girl no I I told

Elbylight you just you just said you made it uh you made an Instagram real saying who's the whitewash Asian and who's the ab whatever that is content I swear to God when she makes real sometimes I

Arina/Bianca (mixed)just I let her do whatever the caption is bro I'm just an actor ABG ABG Asian baby girl what's up that's you that's not are you an AB I am not an ABG we're

Arina/Bianca (mixed)Seaside abgs from SE from Seaside that is our like SE like acting role that's our title yeah we just pretend to be

Brian Atlasabgs for videos are you an ABG I don't think so Ana are you a ABG

Brian Atlasno oh okay that's cool yeah yeah yeah H what do you think abgs are I want to hear your opinion what do I I don't know

Elbywhat it I it stands for what Asian baby girl is that what you said Asian baby girl I don't think I've wait that's not true I have I think I have dated one D

Elbyokay okay like like tell us like what's what's the story like what was your interaction yeah like what was your interaction with that what was it interaction yeah like how does she look

ElbyI want to know yeah dude was she bad balage of course of course of course bage mhm boba boba okay okay

ElbyVietnamese toxic that's you that's you no wait actually no they say what comes around is the vietnames Filipino

Elbycombination is hell that's you bro but like negative multiply with negative Mak positive so I'm positive girl bro I'm hella positive I think Chinese are green

Elbyflags right I'm green flag I guess so they're more family oriented yeah see I'm a green flag okay but like okay let's say you were to date an Asian guy and this goes for any of you guys I can't oh go ahead

Elbyif you if I dated an asany if you were to date an Asian guy which particular ethnicity of an Asian dude and why you go first Asian guys don't like me I know

Elbyshut the up we just not cover the fact that like we get more DMS than guys do so I really like Tai guy for me want

Elbya tie guy yeah like I'd go tie BR so you could do mu thae with him in [Music]

Elbybed bro Koreans oh and then honestly you could go for lady boy why lady boy a lady boy lady boy that's crazy

Arina/Bianca (mixed)okay you next that's crazy I said Koreans and you know who wait are you saying which is the most toxic no we just say like no which one would you

Racheldate ethnicity wise and why you say how how about you Rachel what um as what I okay I'm not really attracted to Asian people that's fine are you part of Asian

RachelI people think that but I'm Italian okay you could and part native oh potentially yeah yeah you benefit but yeah I don't like nothing against Asians but not

Elbyphysically attracted to I like white boys yo where where was the from yall all night oh we were SLE we were sleeping low key we were recharging my back was hurting the entire time bro I

Brian Atlasgot schio too you didn't even finish your pizza you didn't finish your pizza I was going to eat it have that for real have it dude BR I'm feeding the child come on you Sav this for the last 5 minutes of the show we're okay no just extend it extend

Brian Atlasthe Let's Get By the way guys I paused the TTS temper we'll let the roast session come in in just a moment we're trying to get Andrew back guys we're trying to get Andrew back and let me just double check I'm pretty sure we finished up all the

Brian Atlaspre-show notes we'll do a roast session then we'll wrap up uh let's see here wait so you're are you like trying to get like a pay pig or you have had a pay

ElbyPig uh no I was just saying that sug Daddy no oh girl I think you would

Elbywhat's a pay oh a pay pig is M oh yes so my understanding of a pay pig is that there's these men who have a lot of

Elbymoney right have a lot of money but their Kink is to spend on women that would dominate them like like be bullied by them

Elbylike Domin it was kind of like dominate trick Diamond gen tricks but like Financial wise like take all my money bro if I were to like hypothetically say like speak like like hypothetically say

Elbyum that I do have a pay pig bro I'm going to go to Gentle monster right away gentle monster bro I swear to god dude I'll get the middle middle frames um this this is my optometrist assistant

Elbyspeaking out right now the frames are amazing bro would love it but can't have it in the wait so you're saying it would

Brian Atlasturn you on to find them a dude is that what resp it's no just kidding is that what she just said what she's like no no no I just had no p a pay pig

Elbyis someone who has a lot of money that wants to be dominated by a woman which is what you want to do it's just a matter of means that hypothetically seems like like why not you know there's

Rachelno sexual no sexual at all you don't show anything that that's really Weir you know I hear a lot of women that are like oh like he's just giving my money I don't have to do anything I'm like I

Racheldon't most like 99 9% it's not I don't believe that what really no people send me money just like that I I don't I don't do anything or said anything they send

Rachelyou money people send you money wait wait girl what happened Jet Jet internet era jet once who the is that guy jet on you don't have to do anything you don't send

Rachelphotos talking about no no no no no you don't do any photos when you when you have a pay p no no no you don't you don't have to show any like no but she's like I just received with no like you don't have to do anything you don't talk with them you don't you don't you don't

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