ONLY 4 SHOWS LEFT? She USES Men?! FEMCEL? CHARGING For Dates?! Wheelchair Dating! | Dating Talk #218

Date: 2024-12-04

Duration: 8h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

RRiri (Rachel)>

CCassie (DT218)>

MMelena (DT218)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(host)

SPEAKER_02Nikki(guest)

SPEAKER_03Background(audience)

SPEAKER_04Luna(guest)

SPEAKER_05Background(audience)

SPEAKER_06D Cav (DJ)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Jay Hannah(guest)

SPEAKER_09Background(audience)

SPEAKER_10Ali Corin(guest)

SPEAKER_11Riri (Rachel)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Melena(guest)

SPEAKER_14Cassie(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAli Corin introduces herself: wheelchair dancer, 27, from Fresno area, moved to Santa Barbara. Ambulatory wheelchair user — has genetic condition causing daily joint dislocations and a TBI. Has had wheelchair for ~4 years.

“my name is Ali Corin I am 27 and I just moved to Santa Barbara and I am a professional dancer for my wheelchair”

IntroNikki introduces herself: 25, exotic dancer, originally from Cambodia, adopted and raised in Northern California, moved to LA 2 years ago.

“my name is Nikki I'm 25 um I'm originally from Cambodia and I was adopted and brought to Northern California and I moved to LA 2 years ago and I'm an exotic dancer”

IntroRiri introduces herself: 19, pre-law student, wheelchair dancer. Paralyzed at age 8 from botched scoliosis surgery; further paralyzed at 16 from transverse myelitis (mono killed her spinal cord).

“my name is Riri I'm 19 um I'm currently a pre-law student um I also do wheelchair dancing”

IntroCassie introduces herself: 31, mental health advocate, New York, dropped out of psychology. Was diagnosed with ASPD/psychopathy but rediagnosed as Alexithymia. Never had an orgasm. Has underdeveloped amygdala.

“my name is Cassie I'm 31 I'm a mental health Advocate and I live in New York”

IntroD Cav introduces herself: 23, babysitter from Chicago (now LA). Does not have a job beyond babysitting 3x a week.

“my name is D Cav I'm 23 years old and I really don't do anything but I babysit”

IntroMelena introduces herself: 22, personal trainer and Reiki practitioner from LA. NASM certified. Reiki practitioner certified after rehab experience.

“I'm Melena I'm 22 I'm from La mhm um I'm a personal trainer and a raiki practitioner”

IntroJay Hannah introduces herself: 33, Instacart worker, Hollywood CA. Originally from small town North Dakota. Bachelor's in journalism.

“my name is j Hannah I'm 33 years old and I live in Hollywood California Los Angeles... I work for instacart full-time”

IntroLuna introduces herself: 26, exotic dancer and clothing designer, LA. Plans to study pharmacy/become a psychiatrist.

“my name is Luna and I'm 26 years old um currently I am an exotic dancer and I make personal clothing”

Key MomentAli reveals she does not date cisgender men because she is 'not attracted to people born with male privilege.' Brian and Andrew probe the logic at length, eventually Ali clarifies this is tied to childhood trauma (sexual abuse). Generates extended philosophical debate.

“I don't date cisgender men... I'm not attracted to people who are born with male privilege”

QuoteNikki recounts that one of her abusive ex-boyfriends pointed a gun at her face and she had to beg for her life; later another strangled her. She stayed partly because she couldn't leave her pet chinchillas.

“one tried to shoot me like twice... I was crying begging him to stop... the other one just like strangled me”

ControversyMelena recounts that when she was 17 she was sneaking out to meet men from Tinder who knew she was 17. The oldest was 30. Brian notes this was a crime in California. Melena says she was escaping abuse at home and seeking alcohol.

“when I was 17 I would sneak out and meet up with older guys online... the oldest was 30 when I was 17 and they knew I was 17”

ControversyCassie discusses her self-identification as a former 'femcel.' She no longer identifies as one after going on YouTube channels and receiving thousands of emails from interested men. Dispute with Brian and Andrew over whether femcels can truly exist since women can always access sex.

“I used to consider myself a fem cell but I'm no longer a fem cell because I'm around like a lot of guys”

ControversyD Cav admits she is still sleeping with the ex-boyfriend who cheated on her 17 times, solely to keep her body count low. Brian and panel react with shock and humor.

“I'm seeing that X right now... only for sex... I'm not going to up my body count that's literally the only reason why”

IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible, political analyst.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's a popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst”

QuoteJay reveals her worst ex was a SoundCloud rapper with face tattoos who was homeless when she met him, became an alcoholic, wouldn't let her work or go to the gym, criticized her constantly, and she gained 30 lbs during the relationship.

“he was homeless when we met... he wouldn't let me work... I gained 30 lbs when I was in that relationship”

Key MomentAndrew challenges the guests who rated themselves 9-10 to identify their female beauty standard, then pulls up photos showing they bear no resemblance to the women they cited (Zendaya, Elsa Hosk, Beyoncé). Argues that claiming to be a 10 while naming a clearly more attractive woman as the standard is 'slightly narcissistic.'

“if you consider all of these women to be tens and you declared yourself to be an eight nine or ten how could you be... if this woman who you stated was the kind of epitome of perfect Beauty do you look like them — the answer from both tens was yes”

Key MomentBrian argues it is not 'straight' for a cisgender man to date a transgender woman because sex (not gender) defines sexual orientation. Ali and Jay initially disagree, then concede based on Brian's definitional argument. Brian also says the word 'cisgender' offends him; Ali agrees to stop using it around him.

“two males having sex regardless of your gender identity that would be a homosexual act that would be gay it would not be straight”

ControversyBrian gives the 'paternity uncertainty' evolutionary psychology argument for why men prefer low body count women. Ali challenges this as hypocritical since high-body-count men contribute to raising women's body counts. Extended debate with Brian, Ali, and Andrew.

“it's just evolutionary it's just biological... paternity uncertainty... evolutionarily hardwired into men”

QuoteCassie, slightly drunk, reveals she has zero consensual sexual experiences (body count 0) but a BJ count of 7, and that men she's dated have declined to sleep with her because they 'don't want to take advantage of her' due to her autism/Alexithymia.

“consensual zero zero but BJ count seven... a lot of men refuse to have sex with me... they say I don't want to take advantage of you”

OtherAndrew Wilson wraps up his participation and says farewell to the panel around the 6:47 mark.

“very happy to have met all of you my heart out here at 3:00 eastern time... I hope you guys all have a great night”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Setup

Brian opens the show with announcements (streamlabs, Twitch, Discord, WoW guild), then goes around the table for guest introductions: name, age, location, occupation. Guests introduced: Ali Corin (wheelchair dancer), Nikki (Cambodian adoptee/exotic dancer), Riri (pre-law/wheelchair), Cassie (mental health advocate), D Cav (babysitter), Melena (personal trainer/reiki), Jay Hannah (Instacart), Luna (exotic dancer). Andrew Wilson introduced last as co-host.

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares current relationship status, how long single, longest relationship, and who broke up with whom. Highlights: Ali in 2-year polyamorous relationship; Nikki single ~1 year (traumatized by two abusive ex-relationships); Riri single 8 months; Cassie never been in a relationship (femcel discussion); D Cav still sleeping with her cheating ex (camera guy); Melena single 6 months dating a drug addict; Jay single 2.5 years; Luna recently out of a relationship in September 2024.

Ali's Attraction to 'Non-Male-Privilege' People

Extended discussion of Ali Corin's stated reason for not dating cisgender men — 'I'm not attracted to people born with male privilege.' Brian and Andrew probe the logic: does privilege hierarchy matter (e.g., a black man from Compton vs. a billionaire Latina)? Ali clarifies her attraction is also trauma-based (abuse history). Andrew draws parallels to his own philosophical positions on gender pronouns and Orthodox Christianity.

Femcel Discussion

Cassie introduces herself as a former 'femcel' (female involuntarily celibate). Brian, Andrew, and Cassie unpack the term: true involuntary celibacy vs. voluntary celibacy with standards. Brian argues femcels can't truly exist because women can always access sex. Cassie agrees she can no longer identify as a femcel after going viral and receiving thousands of emails from men. Cassie advocates for femcels in Discord communities she participates in.

Pre-Show Notes & Stories

Brian goes through each guest's submitted pre-show notes: Riri's unhinged wheelchair dating app stories; Melena's catfish furniture-assembly scheme; Nikki's two abusive exes (gun incident, strangulation); D Cav's cheating camera-guy ex; Jay's lake cabin Tinder story, $200/day rich man, porn star hookup; Ali's all-queer honey bunny group; Cassie's femcel journey and viral MRI video. Major topics include: ho phases, sex work, toxic relationships.

Wheelchair Dating & Etiquette

Riri and Ali discuss the unique challenges of dating in wheelchairs: uninvited lifting/pushing by dates, dating app responses ranging from fetish to pity, etiquette for able-bodied people, and why Riri chooses not to date another wheelchair user (practical support reasons).

Self-Ratings & Beauty Standards

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Most rate themselves 7-10. Andrew then challenges those who rated themselves 9-10 by asking them to name their female beauty standard (e.g., Zendaya, Victoria's Secret Angels, Beyoncé, Megan Fox) and then showing photos — pointing out they don't actually resemble their stated standards. Discussion about narcissism, whether high self-ratings are narcissistic, and the relationship between attractiveness and dating patterns.

AI Age Progression Photos

Damian displays AI-generated age-progression and age-regression photos of each guest. Guests and Andrew react to how they might look older. D Cav gets 'blue eyes' which confuses everyone. Brian shows a real photo of his ex-girlfriend (Japanese woman) bowing when he returned home late from a podcast, sparking a discussion about traditional female behavior.

Questionnaire Round

Brian reads from a prepared questionnaire: bear vs. man in the forest; height requirements; minimum income requirements; sugar daddies and pay pigs; witchcraft and manifestation; narcissist dating; the gender wage gap; WNBA pay; women's career attractiveness; body count discussion (high body count double standard, men preferring low body count women, paternity uncertainty argument); whether marriage is a bad deal for men; whether you can be sexist toward men; trans women and straight men debate; and whether men put in more effort than women.

Trans Women, Straight Men, & Language Debate

Brian asks panelists whether it's straight for a cisgendered man to date a trans woman. Ali and Jay disagree (say yes, it would be straight). Brian and Andrew argue heterosexual refers to biological sex, not gender identity. Andrew and Brian also discuss Brian finding the term 'cisgender' offensive; Ali eventually agrees to stop using it around Brian if he finds it offensive.

Body Count & Double Standards Debate

Extended back-and-forth between Ali, Brian, and Andrew on whether it's hypocritical for high-body-count men to prefer low-body-count women. Brian argues evolutionary psychology (paternity uncertainty) justifies men's preference. Ali counters that men contribute to high female body counts and that the same logic should apply to women's standards for men. Andrew dissects the definition of hypocrisy. Guests then reveal their body counts: Nikki ~15 (BJ ~20), Riri ~8, Cassie 0 (BJ 7), D Cav 12, Melena ~10 (lost count), Jay lost count (high).

Andrew Wilson Departure

Andrew wraps up his participation around the 6:47 mark, bidding farewell to the panel. He notes he has no ill will despite contentious exchanges, particularly with Ali. Brian thanks him and directs viewers to The Crucible channel.

Roast Session & Final TTS

Brian lowers TTS price to $20 for a roast session. Chat sends roast messages targeting various guests. Political discussion (who voted for Kamala, who voted for Trump). Brian shows video of his Japanese ex-girlfriend bowing. D Cav reveals she's on Ozempic. Cassie gets drunk (had been drinking since arriving from a flight). Final call to action to stop sex work. Brian wraps up the show.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasnice boobs Andrew over staring on my boobs where Andrew everybody's excuse you I

Brian Atlasfelt that there said excuse you Andrew excuse the nice ones the ones that she's actually in the room with me and actually can look at them excuse you and

Brian AtlasDrew how dare you attack the Itty Bitty Titty Committee Member again I am upset he's offended actually in

Brian Atlassolidarity I'm a [ __ ] Ally bro my feelings have been hurt [ __ ] Andrew unbelievable unbelievable Andrew can't

Brian Atlasbelieve that kept also I don't think it's very nice though to make fun of people with small penises and it's not nice to make fun funs of people with

D Cav (DJ)small titties so we're Ean you started it you started it no I didn't I finished it thank you hey did you started it I didn't I I didn't start anything you back no I didn't start anything I think

Cassieyou're tripping you're tripping Andrew calm down no I'm tripping he's he's tripping calm down quantifies a small penis for those of of us that don't know

Brian Atlaswhat you think I can tell you not like you don't have to like never what what how many inches is a small here tell me when to stop what do you mean tell me when to stop I

Lunathink she literally wants to know like small as five under my fingers so tell me when to stop stop small is five and under stop

Brian Atlaswhat yeah six that's six even that's okay five and under mhm how dare you talk about Andrew's penis oh my God that

Brian Atlasis so rude I am so ashamed oh my God Andrew I'm so you I want you to apologize I just you to say sorry my gosh I'm so sorry apology except that's

Brian Atlasbeautiful oh look at that look at that why can't we all be friends here I like that all right it's good it's an apology thank you I appreciate that dark cavia and it was so

D Cav (DJ)sincere there you go very you heard it you heard it there it was very very you know moving it was in no way dripping with Venom no way no way no

Brian Atlasway it's true no way no way you know what though I we got to start making fun of women like oh this this bat must have had a cavernous

Melenavagina what does that mean I love that's the first thing you came with you know what a cavern a cavern my gosh have you ever

Brian Atlasbeen in a cavern it's like a cave bigger than a cave a cavern brv brv so what would a cavern live like that was the first thing that like that's the first

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Brian Atlasdown a hallway a Tic Tac like a hot dog down like a like a yeah that's the one problem I've ever had I'm so lost but I'm just saying like I don't know these girls be talking about big dick energy

Brian Atlassmall dick energy you got a small dick you got a shrimp dick whatever maybe what I think we got to start Andrew we got to start saying like if we ever disagreeing with a chick we got to be like bro you just got a cavernous vagina

Brian Atlasman we've been disagreeing all night this is huge [ __ ] not the not the Audi kind like I was going to say didn't you say that that was like what you preferred anyway Audi's can be very no

Cassiehold on there's difference difference okay okay difference no I know yeah I got if you love someone why would the size of the penis matter that's what I

D Cav (DJ)want to know if you love some if you love you got to be able to be satisfied by the person you're El about them yeah like

Brian Atlashon I could do with someone that has small so beautiful I could too I end chea if I really care about them I could definely that increases your chances a

Brian Atlaslittle bit because he's a millionaire black autist but small PE PE micropen I think it's improved a little bit as long as we have good conversation

Cassiethen it's okay it's all right that's all that matters dude I love that I love it I don't really have anything but my fingers to compare it to so as long as it's bigger than this pump the brakes

TTS Voicethere pump the brakes pump the brakes oh here we go big sass energy donated

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Brian AtlasI just need who has that loose puppy en uh streamlabs automatically changes bad words now um to other words I guess do they know before they send it probably

Ali Corinnot huh like does it auto correct before or just like when it pops up when it pops up yeah they send it in and they don't even know what the auto correct is that's great goes through the Bamboozle fantastic uh going to the next thing

NikkiNikki you disagree so the statement is women are not oppressed in the United States you disagree all okay let me start off by saying that I'm I don't I I did not

Brian Atlasanswer this right cuz honestly I don't even really know what oppressed means that's okay here you know what I want though because you don't know the definition of a word you need to read a

Brian Atlaspage any page I want you to just randomly here Corel fudge Cornelius fudge you're going to read this okay read that book from Harry Potter she's reading Harry Potter I don't embarrass

Nikkimyself I started really bad can you kind of like hold it up so you could do it yeah you got it wait this one's shorter Cornelius fudge did it get [ __ ] can I do this one no you got you did say any

Nikkipage nope it's that page corn fudge go ahead I'm also a little cracked out from the monster quiet guys quiet be be polite be polite Harry Ron and Hermione had always known that hagri had an

Nikkiunfortunate liking for large and monstrous creatures me too during their first year at Hogwarts he tried to raise a dragon in his little wooden house and it wouldn't be long before they forgot

Nikkithe giant three-headed he christened fluffy as if boy Hagrid had heard that a monster was hiding somewhere in the castle Harry was sure he'd have gone to any lengths for a glimpse of it he'

Nikkiprobably thought it was a shame that the monster had been cooped up so long and thought it deserved the chance to stretch its many legs Harry could just imagine the 13-year-old Hagrid trying to

Nikkifit a leash and CER on it but he was equally certain that Hagrid would never have meant to kill anybody Harry half wished he hadn't found out how to work

Nikkiriddle Riddle's Dairy wait Riddle's Diary again and again Ron and Hermione made him recount that was the best I'd ever done

Brian Atlashonest did all right I'll take it back thank you thank you very much really good job that was fantastic well done well done I don't know okay so uh disagree though women are not you

Brian Atlasdisagree women are not oppressed in the USA uh Riri you also disagreed and then that's all for the disagreements why do you disagree I can you tell me

Brian Atlaswhat it means again because that might make me change my answer because I really don't know what it means uh so I'll Google it just to make sure that we give you the best definition I need to go back to school oppression is the

Brian Atlasunjust or cruel use of power or authority especially by imposing burdens on a group of people Al uh malicious or unjust treatment of or EX of power over a group of individuals often in the form

Brian Atlasof government Authority uh yeah is that helpful or not really no can I have an example an example of Oppression let me I you know

Brian Atlaswhat I'll just Google example of Oppression because it probably make me change my answer I really didn't know what what I was can I get it in a sentence so I think

Brian Atlasslavery would be an example of Oppression okay denial uh religious persecution like Andrew over here if use

Brian Atlasit as an adjective yes yes um let's see

Brian Atlasuh I op my wife when I made her cook my dinner oppressed like he forced her to W oppression of Rachel Wilson in the chat

LunaW oppression there's not as much oppression as I'd like around yeah you need to oppress I got to step it up those are rookie numbers Andrew Step It Up say whatever you want to say it's okay another example is like you know how they have um in the I don't want to

Lunabe wrong with the location but the Middle East you know when they the women have to be completely covered they that's like an example of Oppression so then we're we're I don't think we are okay we are not oppressed in America my

Riri (Rachel)family is from a third world country we're not oppressed here I I totally agree that the oppression is nowhere near uh how it is and I don't believe that all women are necessarily oppressed depending on how they live what what

Riri (Rachel)they're doing but I do think that in a lot of circumstances when it comes to things like medical oppression where women are less likely to get appropriate treatment and the rates that black women

Riri (Rachel)die uh giving birth things like that I do believe are oppression because we just kind of ignore them and brush them under the rug aren't women more likely to go to the doctor

Ali Corinand yeah and less likely to get Tre Tre or proper diagnosis Andrew do you have anything anything on this well that one I could give facts on give me the facts no that's that was that was it I was just joking that I was

Andrew Wilsonin a wheelchair it was just a shitty joke yeah leg I thought you said you were going to give me facts on the the idea of Medical Care being oppressive towards women yeah totally did but it

Brian Atlaswas can I provide one counter example to you like so I think that I don't know if this is a great argument but so men are much more likely to be scientifically experimented on consensually but like

Brian Atlasthis would indicate to me that like men are so desperate for money they're willing like they're much more willing than women for example to like take experimental drugs experimental treatments and to be compensated for

Brian Atlasmoney um I think that this would be perhaps a counter example that at least in the medical field uh why is it like more well there are there there's a greater proportion of men who are

Brian Atlasmedically experimented on than women I think if it was the reverse there would be uproar like oh my God why are we like using women as guinea pigs for medical experimentation but she used birth as an

Andrew Wilsonexample wait what she just used dying giving birth as well black women she's talking about in all in all First World countries the um es well especially in

Andrew Wilsonthe United States this is a phenomenon which has been happening where the maternal death rate has climbed uh due to uh birth but the reason for this is

Andrew Wilsonbecause of age women are giving birth later in life in their 30s now and so this has contributed to the idea that

Andrew Wilsonhey uh women suffer greatly under some type of medical malpractice which is associated with them specifically because now they're dying in childbirth in higher numbers uh than they did even

Andrew Wilson20 or 30 years ago but it's just because of the age of the women they're just getting older they're they're literally giving birth older and so they have more complications and as you age your liver gets worse and

Andrew Wilsonwe still do research to figure out how to give an older person a liver so why is birth different wait also I don't well because you can only do so many contributing factors towards the science

Andrew Wilsonof a thing it's it's one thing to make the claim well you know uh are we stopping the science of trying to figure out how to make these births happen in a

Andrew Wilsonin an easier and safer way for women the answer is no but if you just say well because it's happening there's some sort of medical oppression towards them that's just silly that nobody's ever

Andrew Wilsondealt no country basically ever has dealt with an aging female population which is giving birth in their 30s on average that just that's never really happened in history most women have given birth traditionally in their 20s

Ali Corinand when you take birth out of it then what about things like doctors refusing to give women testing based on symptoms that they tell them or you know primarily diagnosing women with some

Ali Corinform of Hysteria or mental illness before even doing any form of testing and writing that off is okay versus men yeah well well first of all there you have a sampling bias here you have a lot

Andrew Wilsonmore women who will go to the doctor before they'll go to a psychologist in order to get a reference to a a psychologist which I recognize I'm referring to the ratio yeah well I mean per capita this

Andrew Wilsonis not correct so per capita men are misdiagnosed just as much as women are I mean there's no doubt about it they even come in with very different symptoms than women have because the physiology

Andrew Wilsonis different um so yeah I mean per capita misdiagnosis is uh it it's just as bad I do admit that more women are misdiagnosed than men but that's because

Andrew Wilsonthere's a sampling bias and there's a lot more women who go to get treatment than men for various issues but per capita no while I hear what you're saying the and I cannot give you like a direct link everything that I've seen

Ali Corinthat was research based was ratio based percentage based uh percentage of women that go in versus percentage of men that go in and the refusal of you know getting testing before you even get a

Andrew Wilsonmisdiagnosis is what I'm referring to mental health diagnosis the same thing happens uh the same thing happens to men for all sorts of uh various chronic issues that they have too it's just I'm not saying that do sampling of

Cassiemisdiagnoses yeah I was misdiagnosed as a psychopath when I just had Alexia so I think it is true I think women are more Mis never diagnosed as a psychopath well

Cassieaspd aspd I was diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder um and that was a misdiagnosis and I I think because I think if I was a man I

Andrew Wilsonmisdiagnosis in the medical community is very common especially in Psychology because psychology there is no physical ailment which can be pointed to only

Andrew Wilsonbehavioral ailments that's it so because that's the case the way that we would associate whether somebody is suffering from mental illness would be a deviation from what we be considered typical

Andrew WilsonBehavior so we can't look at physical problems to do most diagnoses okay I mean there's just no way to do it you just sample it off of

Andrew Wilsonthe pool size and say okay if this is nontypical behavior in society that's how you associate what is mental illness and what isn't there's really no other way to do it it's a soft science for that

Andrew Wilsonreason if someone presented like data to you that proved the other way would you believe it of course if there was a significant data that you could show

Andrew Wilsonthat the methodology and the soft Sciences um which suffer by the way heavily from the replication crisis meaning that most of these studies most

Andrew Wilsonby the way not some uh upwards in psychology of 60% Plus in some cases in Canadian psychology it's been estimated as high as 70% cannot be replicated

Andrew Wilsonthese studies even with the same exact group groups so they'll get the same doctors same focal group same everything and they cannot replicate these studies this is known as the replication crisis

Andrew Wilsonfor soft science this is a big big problem hard scientists don't suffer from this because of controls so we were talking about we were you and I were discussing controls earlier when you're talking about controls in Psychology

Andrew Wilsonit's it's almost impossible because all you're doing is taking non-typical behavior and trying to group it as being something which can be a addictive model and it's almost impossible to do so this

Andrew Wilsonis why they're just like well maybe your brain chemistry is off and they basically experiment on you there's no real way to do it other other than that they could take this pill let's see if this makes you feel a little bit better

Andrew Wilsonhow do you feel now they really there's really no great way to just talk to you for a few minutes and go okay you have a b c and d just there's just no way to do that uh so going back to this when it

Brian Atlascame when it comes to women being oppressed uh you cited to like uh this treatment when it comes to Medicine although it just occurred it did occur to me that when it comes to like this differential

Brian Atlastreatment when it comes to Health Care um men on I think men on average die five years earlier than women I mean that's a massive Gap I mean and that's probably like health related I mean it

Cassiecould be like Risk related too like men are take more risks like they maybe I don't know or don't go in like you were saying men suffer in silence I've heard things that you wouldn't believe like

Cassiemen there's a lot of young men that are addicted to pornography that want a girlfriend and it's like it's so it's so crazy and they work a 9 to-5 and they don't tell anybody how they feel they

Cassieonly tell a therapist or a mental health person and like I don't I don't understand like how is it that people are not worried about this because men

Cassiein their 30s and 40s I mean um yeah 20s 30s and 40s they want things that they don't think they ever get and they're angry and like I've had dudes tell me that they think about essaying women and

Cassiethen they're like but I'm not going to do that because I'm a good guy but then like they're they live alone when they come home from work they play video games they watch pornography and then

Cassiethey have to like deal with the reality that like they're not where they feel like being in life like men are men are really like suffering and the only reason I know is because of my job and I

CassieI don't know like I feel like the government should be like more worried because if like the internet cuts out like these dudes are going to like go out and like do some really CRA stuff maybe I don't know all right I don't

Riri (Rachel)know cuz the stuff I hear is like crazy going back to this though you did say that women are oppressed um do you think you're oppressed I really I don't think that I necessarily experience oppression

Riri (Rachel)in the same way I think I do think about things that other people might not necessarily see as oppression like how the cost for like a prostate cancer exam

D Cav (DJ)oh why are you guys laughing if the internet cuts out they're screwed they're screwed if the internet goes out they're screwed

Riri (Rachel)bro the world is coming to an end it's like the adderal shortage you know oh yeah okay all right um so uh women are you oppressed yeah I don't think I

Brian Atlasnecessarily experience it directly um okay yeah but so but women are oppressed in the USA yeah okay um I don't believe that all women in the US experience oppression but I do believe that and it was like the medical thing and then it

Brian Atlaswas what was the give me like the two other things I think you said I think that medically is really the biggest thing that's the big one yeah for all right I'm going to move it on then uh

Brian Atlaslet's see we've got uh women have equal rights to men in the USA to Ali you disagreed say it again I'm so sorry I was zoned out women have equal rights to

Brian Atlasmen in the USA you disagree with this statement oh no then I just read it wrong sorry oh my come on you just don't want to argue about it no legitimately I've argued plenty things I think you understand that I can AR so you think so

Brian Atlasyou think then that women do have equal rights in the United States yes okay all right uh Jay you disagreed though you think women do not have equal rights in

Jay Hannahthe United States why is that I think uh as we saw in the like Reproductive Rights that's the biggest one mhm that's the biggest one I mean I'm lucky that you know living living

Jay Hannahhere in Los Angeles it doesn't affect me too much but I grew up in a red State and like I know I know how it is like in certain places it's a lot worse yeah anything else besides that besides the

Jay Hannahabortion stuff I mean that's that's the biggest one well what's the smaller one I say I can't really that's the main one that I'm aware of I can't really think of anymore but I mean main one would seem to imply that there are other

Brian Atlasways in which women don't have equal rights to men in the USA are there are there anymore or is that the only one that's the only one I guess I really think about yeah well the so the prompt

Brian Atlasis women have equal rights to men in the United States give granted uh or not excuse me misspoke um given that men don't have any Reproductive Rights uh would it be safe to say that actually uh

Brian Atlaswomen have more rights when it comes to reproduction and in fact uh moving closer to equality between men and women would seem to uh it would either need for well it

Brian Atlaswould dictate that men uh that women their right to an abortion is completely walked back entirely would that would I mean men men can't get pregnant so it's irrelevant to

Brian Atlasthem right but like so if we when we're talking about equal rights that's a comparison of Rights between men and women so men need to have uh a certain right that a woman does not since men

Brian Atlashave no rights like for example a man can't compel a woman to get an abortion uh it would seem to me that equality would dictate that we completely and entirely walk back women's access to abortion in order to get

D Cav (DJ)[Music] equality I think yeah I'm I'm a bit I'm a bit conf so are all these questions that you typed on here like all the ones you like what do you mean like you agree

Brian Atlasto or like what do you mean agree like those questions well I mean everything I just said now when it came to abortion I'm not that's not my position I think she just asking if you wrote the

Brian Atlasquestions if you chose the question or yeah I wrote These and I do think that uh women have equal rights to men in the United States that's why I specifically didn't disagree with that

Riri (Rachel)because I don't think when it comes to abortion it's a matter of equal rights because it doesn't affect men at all so it's not you can't really weigh it against anything so it's it's not really a matter of equal right that's that's

Brian Atlaskind of my perspective it's not like an example of like some s inequality between and wom because it's like men can't get pregnant so it's like

Brian Atlasit's there's nothing to compare it to for men like yeah so yeah um and uh let's see moving on uh adult

Brian Atlasage Gap relationships a couple of you have serious issues with adult age Gap relationships

Brian Atlasit seems or maybe not actually hold on I literally like I was about that I'm assena and Laura you guys object to age Gap relationships the the example

Melenaprovided a 30-year-old dating a 19-year-old objections object I object your honor I mean obviously it's legal but I think the maturity level is very

Melenadifferent um mhm I can't think of any scenario where like a 19-year-old has the same maturity level and life experience as a

Brian Atlas30-year-old word that's yeah what were you pointing at wait is Andrew some somebody told me his stream oh no somebody said your stream was messed up but I think it's fine um I'm sorry uh so

Brian Atlasthe you're saying like the maturity levels or like the life experience it's different both yeah yeah okay uh all right I said that only from uh perspective of being I've been there and

CassieI would just give anyone the advice not to do that yeah they're in two different life Arenas a 19-year-old is not in the same arena in life as a 30-year-old man but that you can't put that in pers

D Cav (DJ)perspective cuz some people at Young ages do have an older like a more of a mature mindset so which me which literally just States for them to like older people yeah that makes sense I feel like I thought that was me but then

D Cav (DJ)now now I'm why because because they're mature and everything everything that goes into a m older man is maturity but is he really mature if he's getting with people that young yes but but some

D Cav (DJ)people some you canot blame it some but I have like older men some guys like younger like younger girls some women like younger men it's just it doesn't just justify it's just as a man's

D Cav (DJ)perspective and then like how people just can't be with someone older than them when there's scenarios when younger people like being with older people when older people like being with younger people on both sides men and women I

Melenaagree with that I just think 19's too young yeah yeah that's where where I'm at if it was like 21 I wouldn't say much about even those years are a big difference you think we should like

Brian Atlasraise the voting age for women since they can't like consent to have sex with like yeah like men you know adult men no I I the first thing I said is that it's

Riri (Rachel)legal oh okay sorry I missed that part then I just don't think it's like right yeah I think the maturity level it's totally just a preference thing sure I mean i' would probably it's weird but

Riri (Rachel)people do it and as long as no one's getting hurt like I just it's not for me I wouldn't date a 30-year-old I feel like a majority of 19-year-olds wouldn't date a 30-year-old but whatever I don't

Jay Hannahcare I would never dat a 19yearold I can't imagine I mean you were in an age Gap you were dating a younger guy he was 25 not 19 okay it's not that's not as much of a but young younger than that

Lunawould be pushing it 19 I was seeing like 45y olds and at the time that was definitely my type I loved like do looking guys you know like silver foxes and stuff like that but now that I'm

Lunalike 26 I realized that like most of the time that wasn't really like it personally it just was like why like that's actually weird I think no matter the gender I think it's weird of the

Lunaolder person mhm like even the whole Kardashians they're all like 40 something and they're now they're all dating like 20year olds I know that's not that big of a difference but it's like it's such an interesting concept but you

D Cav (DJ)like for me like would I if I was 19 would I go for an older man probably I like I would probably I would probably have done it simply just because older men are attractive based on what they

Melenaknow mhm and their access to resources yeah like I honestly I would do it there you go if I was 19 but I guess I am seeing a 45-year-old right now when you were 19 huh what would be like the age limit of the guy when you're 19 it

D Cav (DJ)depends if I was attracted to them I I definitely would like if I was like damn if you found them attractive what would the age on that but the attractiveness is what matters any age where it does matters yeah I mean like there is

D Cav (DJ)definitely an age Gap where where it does get weird like maybe like 50 60 60 like if you have wrinkles on you and you like you don't like you an old man like my only option right now is a

Cassie50-year-old but he he got wrinkles and he's not attractive but he keeps on saying he's a millionaire and I'm like I don't want to you know so it's like why

Cassiewould I do that but then again I'm broke so I got to think about it I got and feel weird about I have to consider it me with my 50-year-old right now but yeah no I

Riri (Rachel)honestly yeah like I would say I get it I used to be broke he worth it so that's why I'm 19 and I feel weird about like 22 like I mean I would I probably but like I feel weird like it's just weird

Riri (Rachel)it's like a life experien difference like it's just weird also I feel like at my age like it feels a lot bigger than it would if I was older I don't date younger than 25 at 22 how about you

Jay HannahAndrew how do you feel about the topic yeah also in your case it's like you can't drink legally too so it's like it's weird like I'm not going to be going out I had some some technical difficulty on my end I just got to

D Cav (DJ)sorted out what what what were you guys talking about we're talking about the age Gap from 19 to was it 40 30 how do you feel about that I've never heard a compelling moral argument against it ever against

Cassieit I think I just I just don't care what other people I think physical attraction attraction matters that's what I think I think if you're attracted to the 40 or the 50y old then it it wouldn't matter but if you're not attracted to them you

D Cav (DJ)hang on what was the question that was asked I was like uh so you're with it like you like you think it's fine or you're against it yeah I don't I've never heard a good compelling argument against it ever yeah I agree that it

Andrew Wilsonshould be legal I think it's weird though I get it so the number one argument from women you date white men yeah the number one argument from women on this is that it gives them the ick it

Andrew Wilsongives me it's icky but that's that's not an argument it's just an emotional state I think the ick is also biological hang on

Andrew Wilsonhang on hang on hang on you we we'll get to you in just a second I promise um but yeah I've never I've never actually heard a good compelling argument against an age Gap relationship so here's uh

Andrew Wilsonhere's a good example of this if there was uh some 21-year-old woman that you knew who was madly in love with a 41y old man and told you he's the one and I just adore him and he treats me great

D Cav (DJ)would any of you say a damn word to her about that no yeah that's the I have my opinions I wouldn't say it though exactly it's not my life what would you

Andrew Wilsonbe your opinions yeah right so so then the idea here is like it just gives you the ick but you don't see any moral issue with it you would say something about now she was like the older person does it because they can't sorry I

Cassieinterrupted you and what if the is a biological response because the person that is interested in me he looks older and I want to have kids and so if why would I have kids with someone that

Cassielooks older I feel like they're not going to give me the best kids honestly you talk about this man quite a bit I think you should go for him well it's it's just a matter of it's

Andrew Wilsona matter of Interest so interest in priorities so uh men tend to be mostly attracted to younger women and this is in all age groups that we see who are

Andrew Wilsonasked about this it's not that they're not attracted to women who are who are not uh younger than them because they are it's just that when universally asked what is the most attractive age

Andrew Wilsongroup it's usually women who are in their 20s yeah and same goes for women like that's why we would have the word the word cougar come on now no no women women tend to to view action differently

Andrew Wilsonthey tend to view it around about 5 years or so of of their age universally reported whereas men univ I'm just telling you what's reported You can disagree with it I'm just telling you

Andrew Wilsonwhat people say so uh but yeah universally they think uh they think attractive women U they're almost all universally attracted to women in their

Andrew Wilson20s this this makes sense though because if you think about it from a biological basis it's mostly women in their 20s who can have children right they they have the highest fertility rate so if that's

Andrew Wilsonthe case if the idea of evolution is true and reproduction is the primary edict then of course the attraction for men is going to be the younger women right because they can reproduce that makes

Andrew Wilsonsense women they don't prioritize the same thing they often prioritize resources uh overlooks this is why you see tons and tons of really really ugly

Andrew Wilsondudes with really really hot chicks and the kind of Pres position is well that dude's obviously rich and most of the time you're right he is Rich and that's

Cassiewhy they're with him so if a woman is in her 30s do you think she should just be with someone that wants to be with her even if she's not attracted to them what does this have to do with age I'm sorry

Cassiethis has nothing to do with age Gap unless you can refine your question to relate it to the topic well there is an age Gap within the dynamic what forget about it it's okay no no I

Jay Hannahwant I don't need it it's all good I would never date a guy I'm not attracted to I can't I can't and I'm in my par like it's the idea of what's it has to

Andrew Wilsondo with the age cap so okay repeat your question so women women can find things and find qualities in men which are attractive which are external to looks so let's say the guy's like a five or

Andrew Wilsonfour right um and he's old like me or something like this um maybe you could compensate for the fact that he's kind of ugly with the fact that he's also really rich right you can you can

Andrew Wilsoncompensate for these facts um you know that's uh depending on the type of woman it depends on what they're looking at for attraction whereas men it's basically just one thing if you're physically hot they really just don't

Andrew Wilsongive a [ __ ] about much else it's it's really it's it's it's pretty simple right men are men are very easy in that regard uh they'll really put up with an awful lot of horrible [ __ ] from women just because they're hot like that's

Brian Atlasjust the true that's very true yeah does that answer your question or what he said in the first half answered my question yes okay all right uh I'm going to move on then uh Allie's

Brian Atlasin the bathroom but I'll get the let's see so uh Rachel you the statement is acceptable it is acceptable for high body count men to prefer to date low

Brian Atlasbody count or virgin women you disagreed and then we had uh where did the uh the wheelchair ladies go well there's one left and then

Brian Atlasshe's in she's in the bathroom uh oh wait you're in a wheelchair too yeah there oh yeah yeah I forgot I'm sorry I'm sorry uh Jay you also disagree with

Brian Atlasthat and then Laura you also disagree with that so uh for those of you who are here at the table uh Rachel and Jay and

Riri (Rachel)Laura I don't think for me it necessarily even has to do with it being body count I think it's the double St standard that's unacceptable like a man who has a super high body count wanning a low body count woman I also think it

Brian Atlaswould be wrong if it was a high body count woman wanting a low body count man so I think that's my issue I'm going to I'll respond first before I let these other uh give their take um don't you have a double standard of your own I'm

Brian Atlassure somewhere I do what do you mean you've already disclosed it on the show you're in a wheelchair you would not date somebody who's in a wheelchair is this not a double standard I think it has to do more with like practic I ality there's nothing

Brian Atlaspractical about there plenty practical about not wanting to uh despite your own high body count not wanting to date uh a woman who has a high body

Brian Atlascount what uh what well for ex I mean I don't know if this would be considered practical but like uh the more sexual partners you've had the greater risk youve have an STD so I think it's pretty

Brian Atlaspractical to not want to date a woman who has herpes for example like that's pretty practical what about the guy like he also has a high body count yeah well well let's assume he has a high body count but he didn't he rolled the dice

Brian Atlaswith his dick but he was lucky didn't get herpes I feel like a low body count woman could also have herpes sure but do you think it's more likely for a high body count woman to have an STD sure right I mean it's just this is based in

Brian Atlasfact and science the more sexual partners you have it doesn't look you could sleep with 100 people and not get anything but like the chance is way higher way higher at inade like just a

Andrew Wilsonreally basic Factor here which is the revolting Factor so the idea that uh a person is revolted or has revulsion towards another person not going to be with him

Lunaright we we'll we'll stop the show for you wait did something no she said that Lun Luna said that the STDs are just going to invade the planet yeah he's all dirty and he just wants to invade her

Lunacleanly that's gross like if a guy was like had a high body count you just want like but what if you have something and you're trying to like yeah but it's illegal if they they get you something and they know they had it it's illegal no that's not

Andrew Wilsonillegal yeah they you can sue them yeah you can you usually lose right and now if they know about and they didn't mention it to you the burden of proof is on you right to demonstrate it was never mentioned so it's very difficult to

Andrew Wilsonprove something like that which would be a good practical reason not to be with somebody who had a high body count I suppose uh which would make make kind of the point both ways but diving into this I'm

Andrew Wilsonjust looking at it from the idea of being revolted or not revolted I don't think that you can help who you're revolted by or activities you're revolted by right you just can't really help it so even if you were a person who

Andrew Wilsonyourself had a proclivity towards having sex with a lot of people you could still have the preference of wanting to be with a person who didn't because you found it revolting I don't know why that

Andrew Wilsonwould necessarily be problematic would that be considered a fetish or no not a fetish you could have reasons outside of a fetish for wanting

Andrew Wilsonthat one is just attract you just find people more attractive who've been with less people you're just less revolted by

Cassieit well I see that's a fetish from my experience sorry okay let's hear it from my experience guys don't like it when you don't have experience like wait what

Cassiehold on what hold on no no no what yeah like you don't know how to suck a dick you don't know how to give a hand job hold on wait but you just said from your experience how much experience do

Cassieyou have as a fale a lot not a lot not a lot so of the experiences you do have the men were like you suck at no no no

Cassiethey were I I text you know and on hinge or on Bumble and they're like well like on the second date would you at least give me a [ __ ] and I'm just like I'm I don't know like maybe but I don't I

Cassiedon't know if I'm good at giving [ __ ] and like how do you not know if you're good at sucking dick and I'm just like well I don't know I don't know um

Cassieokay uh yeah person sorry I apologize if I was too explicit Brian but I'm just telling she wants to show you right if you had suck if if you had a guy that

Brian Atlasyou were with autistic women give the best [ __ ] I mean this is obviously the case that's a compliment what the [ __ ]

Melenaall right um so okay going back to you uh you mentioned the double what is it did I say something you know you said something what did I say that was just

Melenaso weird and out of pocket to say I gave it was no like you know how like with autism right there's as hus that's what

Brian Atlasyou're saying yeah like with and they hyper focus in on like and they become really good at like painting or like if they're an athlete they're really good at being that and there's

Brian Atlaslike autistic as women there's Asperger women who hyperfocus in on just sucking dick and let me tell you one thing you

Cassieknow you know I've [ __ ] an alistic woman before that's good but a l i had sexual intercourse with an a lot of men

Cassierefuse to have sex M you know she's come on now a lot of men refuse to have sex with what with you with yes because they

Cassiesay oh I don't want to take advantage of you you're artistic yeah I don't want to take advantage of you and I'm like no you're not taking advantage of me and they're like no but you're doing them a favor just

Cassiekidding I've went on a date with a guy and he literally was like so you're a little slow and I'm like yes I'm a little slow I'm not ashamed of it and he's like oh I don't want to take advantage of you I

Cassielike men men about a slow how they can't run away oh Andrew what the hell is his internet all [ __ ] okay he we're getting him back I think it's everything goes over no

Cassiethere's something like I think there's kind of like as long as it's legal you know like cuz there's a there's a threshold where it's like if they're it's like wrong it's wrong not someone

Brian Atlasthat has Down syndrome obviously or someone that's low relationship you said that they do it the best though so that was your best experience are we still are we still here no you're we got you

CassieAndrew we got you yeah but I'm just saying like part of my [ __ ] okay okay can should I continue yes okay part of my experience

Cassiepart of my lived experience tell me especially with with if I do find a black man that's high functioning autistic he's like high masking I went

Cassieon two dates with dudes that were like that they're like high masking and so they're like well how do I know that you're not going to put my nudes online and I'm like well if you want me to send

Cassieyou a picture of me naked I need you to send me a picture of you naked you know like I'm I'm not like the struggle is real you know and the struggle is you

Cassieare so right fem cells do exist cells there is there is there is a lot of women that have trouble finding a man that they're attracted to have sex with go off Queen like these women they don't

Cassiewant to have sex with men that they're not attracted to because that gives them like bad sex is a form of trauma and they they watch Tik Tok they

Cassiewatch so many times and they don't want to do it and I've been traumatized socially awkward women exist wait can you tilt your mic down just a little

Cassiebit socially awkward women exist yes and they're of in all different types of races yes and it's very hard some I'm sorry I'm a little tipsy it's very hard yeah you've been cracking open those

Cassie[ __ ] she been cracking that plan I know I have to go in the plane like 5:00 this morning and just came from the plane over here so you're saying that you think that men would prefer that their

Andrew Wilsonwomen have [ __ ] a bunch of other men before them well when I'm texting with them like it's it's hang on hang on hang on hang on without the the long elongated anecdote thank you just a

Cassiesimple answer to the question do you think that a man would prefer that his woman had suuck 10 dicks before his dick a man that's looking for a long-term relationship no he would not prefer that

Cassiebut some men are looking for shortterm and they lie and they say that they're looking for longterm so are we blasting out body counts or what yeah you go

Brian Atlasfirst no you go first you go first um wait so hold on um I don't even we uh trti many times uh tra okay that was a

Brian Atlaslot that was a lot but thank you Cassie I appreciate it you're I appreciate honesty your honesty and your openness

Brian Atlastalking about your life experiences yes and uh but we were were we on age C no we were talking about oh high body count

Brian Atlasyeah I don't think honestly even for a one night stand I think the dude picks the Virgin assuming she's down to have the one night stand picks the Virgin over the girl with 100 bodies even for

Brian Atlasthe one night stand I'm I'm taking them virgin for the okay for them y okay good talk to Cassie I'm glad we had that back and forth there that was good that was good you're the homie Cassie What's Up by the way

Cassieyou said you only date black guys or like I only date black guys you date African no he wants to I know you I know I know you want to know these socially awkward white dudes they're like oh I've

Brian Atlasnever been with a black girl and I'm just like okay let's be friends what the [ __ ] wait Cassie question though would is it just black dudes or is it also

CassieAfrican amans I so I like Nigerians I like people from Trinidad and Jamaica and Barbados I do have a preference for um black people that are not afrian

CassieAmericans African-Americans is like the fourth on the list four okay cuz like I'm technically African-American

Cassiebro cry I'm dead dead like matter a fact matter a fact I am Nigerian you're playing the Elon card right now he's like I'm africanamerican that's exactly

Brian Atlasit because so my dad was born in North Africa and my mom was born in America technically I'm African-American I'm not like I'm friends with a bunch of white dudes oh you only date black dudes I

D Cav (DJ)thought you date like African-Americans I like I like black like I like so there's a difference I'm white yeah but I'm African ameran oh my God we all came from

D Cav (DJ)somewhere we all came from somewhere she's my Caucasian right there that's my ccan wait friends with like all these Your Part White she said no I don't claim that part you don't claim that what the [ __ ] all right yeah I like

Brian Atlasbeing friends with white brother from another mother are you my can you be my [ __ ] are you just like or Latina are you Latin she's white I'm Latin liar barely you're I'm 100% white I'm

Brian Atlasnot mixed with anything are you are you my Caucasian I am one One mic at a time okay so um really quick though you mentioned the double standard uh I mean I I'm sure at some point it just cracks

Brian Atlasout to preference and you know it's a preference that's kind of but it's like I guess my thinking on this whole thing when it comes to double standards is it like so in order for you want in order

Brian Atlasfor you to want to be with someone uh you need to be exactly the same otherwise it's like oh okay it's unfair or it's a double standard I don't think

Riri (Rachel)it's unfair it's just that they are not ignoring their own body count but it's a man with the high body count that wants a woman with a lower body count specifically it's like are things you

Brian Atlasdesire in a partner like do you need to possess the trait that you desire in a partner no I don't think so yeah so I don't think it's wrong like in this

Brian Atlasspecific example a man with a high body count I think it's fair proposition that he it's totally fine for him to prefer to date low body count women or or virgins for example I mean there's

Brian Atlasplenty of when it comes to I guess things that I don't think think women really care that much about body count but like things that uh women want in men that they don't possess like there's

Brian Atlasplenty of like broke women who would date a rich man I don't think that's like a double standard or hypocritical uh what about like if we're looking at status so like I'm sure like a woman

Brian Atlaswho's like never been to the gym once she would love to date a professional athlete I don't think that that makes her a hypocrite I just think that that there are things uh traits in men or

Brian Atlaswell I there are things that just blanketly make you attractive as a person and like all people regardless of they if they possess that same trait they're going to

Brian Atlasbe like okay well this is I'm attracted to this how about like a you know I don't know nobody a nobody chick who has no status who's attracted to

Andrew Wilsonlike people also get confused on what a hypocrite is it's not a matter of I listen to or if you were to say you know

Andrew Wilsonsomething like U um you know I listen to rock music right um but you can't listen to rock music

Andrew Wilsoneven though I do that would be a form of hypocrisy yeah I I I don't think it's the form hang on hang on almost done just real quick I just want to clarify

Andrew Wilsonthis that you know the idea of hypocrisy is to uh be doing something which you yourself would Advocate against that would be what a hypocrite would be so

Andrew Wilsonyou're not advocating that it's not okay for somebody with a high body count to date somebody with a low body count right so that wouldn't be a that wouldn't be hypocrisy and then uh Jay

Brian Atlasyou had thoughts on this one and any thoughts on the whole on the same one about body counts um acceptable for high body count man to prefer to date low body count woman you I mean I yeah I I

Jay Hannahthink it's hypocritical as long as the person's clean I think too they should they should definitely get an STD test but like as long as they're clean and especially if they've never cheated on any of their exes like cuz you don't

Jay Hannahknow people's stories you know maybe maybe someone's in their 30s but maybe they had a ho phase when they were in college so it's like maybe they had they have a high body count but it's all from

Andrew Wilsonlike 10 years ago but how do I how do I I just got done explain think she was listening means I literally just got done explaining what hypocrisy means

Jay Hannahcan't be hypocrisy it's not possible no I was listening but I'm saying that's why she still disagrees it's I'm saying that's why I circled it because yeah yeah no that's fair she was explaining why she circled it that's

Jay Hannahfair that's why that's why I circled it I see yeah and I think too he's got to go with like what it's go on like a case-by casee basis cuz like I was saying you know maybe someone had a ho phase in college but now 10 years later

Brian Atlasthey've barely been with anyone in the last sure few years yeah moving on on topics people can change uh Nikki you so here's the prompt here's the prompt a

Brian Atlaswoman's career money status or status does not make her more attractive to men Nikki you disagreed uh let's see there were a

Brian Atlascouple other disagrees on that it was uh Melena you disagree Jay you disagree Laura you disagree Nikki starting with you uh why

Brian Atlasdo you uh disagree with that um it was uh wait so okay yeah could you read it like so okay for example like I would say and this is related to The

NikkiPrompt most men like if you're a really high earning woman he's not going to be like more attracted to you I feel like certain ones are though because I've met plenty of guys in the club who they all

Brian Atlaslike that we have our money up and they tell me that they don't want to be with their girls because their girls are like don't you know don't get to the bag the same way which is like not their so I acknowledge that men will even say this and I also think it would be like really

Brian Atlassuboptimal as a guy to like if you're on a date with a girl and she's kind of career oriented and she's like successful I think it' be a bad if you're trying to like sleep with her or even date her to say like oh

Brian Atlasyeah [ __ ] your career like cuz I'm sure you guys are all going to agree with the following statement will men lie to get you into they lie all the time I'm more interested in looking at

Brian Atlaslike not so much this is almost I guess a criticism of men not really interested in looking so much at what men say this is this also applies to women but what

Brian Atlasthey they do so like for example like the guy who says oh yeah I do that uh and I've had like um I remember I had a male friend who he was like he was a software engineer and he's like oh I

Brian Atlasbecause I make this much money I really want to date a girl who's kind of On My Level but being a software engineer that like removed a lot of women from his dating pool and then like he ended up dating like some dance instructor who's

Brian Atlasmaking like 40K a year and so it's like men say one thing they'll say it and they some men will say it either to because they think it's like the politically correct thing to say and

Brian Atlasthey don't want to be come off as offensive or your career woman and he's either trying to flatter you well he's trying to flatter you and he's trying to

Brian Atlassleep with you and saying like oh your career [ __ ] that don't care at all probably not going to be very like conducive to getting you into bed or

Cassieinto a relationship as a therapist in training what I will say is that women fall in love with their ears ear and men fall in love with their eyes yes good

Cassiepoint so like a man and I've had men tell me this out of confidence whatever they will say I will tell a woman

Cassiewhatever I need to in order to [ __ ] and that's what they do because they want to [ __ ] and if a woman sees a man's actions

Cassieis not aligning with what he says then she shouldn't give him sex but because she gives him sex because he's saying what she wants to hear because she told him what she wanted out of the

Cassierelationship then when he gets access to sex then he's like okay this is great and after a few times then he moves on to the next one after it gets boring because he doesn't really know you as

Cassieyou he knows you as beautiful what are you Tai Cambodian beautiful T um um Cambodian woman you know so like after that after he gets bored he moves on to

Cassiethe next one and it's not his fault it's because he feels like he has to tell you what you want to hear in order to get access to your vagina you know and like the vaginal Canal yeah yeah and like

Brian Atlasvagina hole cabin um I guess cabinet uh just I'm going to try to blast through blast well blast through these as quick as

Brian Atlaspossible uh so uh yeah women's career I think typically like for example a man who's an attorney he's probably like could be High earner he's probably going to be like yeah I'll date a girl who

Brian Atlasworks at Starbucks if she's hot I'll date a girl who works at Starbucks if she's hot I'll date a girl who works a Chick-fil-A uh I tend to agree with this I I'm doing decently myself don't really

Brian Atlascare at all about in fact the more money I started to earn the less I even care like I could I could see like a guy looking at it pragmatically if he's like uh I don't know he's not he could be

Brian Atlasthinking like okay well I want to have a family and I'm I know I'm not going to be able to support this family just off of my income so he like it could become like part of the equation but it's still

Brian Atlasgoing to be like really low on the totem pole I don't think like he's going to ultimately if some like really hot chick who's maybe not in debt but like Works a I don't know minimum wage job Barista

Brian Atlasshe's probably going to be able that uh more attractive Chick-fil-A worker is going to be able to out compete his potential other partners who are per uh

Nikkihigher earners like soel I was just thinking like she liked it though whatever I just feel like that status stuff chill bro chill dadia I was waiting for a comment to come out your

Nikkimou I was waiting for chill chill chill I feel like the status does matter because like the guy's not going to want to be with a girl who's a bum who doesn't have a job and all that he doesn't care he doesn't care well maybe you don't but I know a lot of guys like the guys that come into the club they

Nikkiliterally tell me they don't want to be with like a girl who has no money like they will tell you whatever they need they trying Cambodian I feel like every guy I know just says what you want to hear because

Nikkithat's how it is for me like so many guys told me that they're not going to want like a girl who's homeless and doesn't have any money like they want a girl who's got a money want a homeless also you that's why put that as my that like

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