ONLY 4 SHOWS LEFT? She USES Men?! FEMCEL? CHARGING For Dates?! Wheelchair Dating! | Dating Talk #218

Date: 2024-12-04

Duration: 8h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

RRiri (Rachel)>

CCassie (DT218)>

MMelena (DT218)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(host)

SPEAKER_02Nikki(guest)

SPEAKER_03Background(audience)

SPEAKER_04Luna(guest)

SPEAKER_05Background(audience)

SPEAKER_06D Cav (DJ)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Jay Hannah(guest)

SPEAKER_09Background(audience)

SPEAKER_10Ali Corin(guest)

SPEAKER_11Riri (Rachel)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Melena(guest)

SPEAKER_14Cassie(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAli Corin introduces herself: wheelchair dancer, 27, from Fresno area, moved to Santa Barbara. Ambulatory wheelchair user — has genetic condition causing daily joint dislocations and a TBI. Has had wheelchair for ~4 years.

“my name is Ali Corin I am 27 and I just moved to Santa Barbara and I am a professional dancer for my wheelchair”

IntroNikki introduces herself: 25, exotic dancer, originally from Cambodia, adopted and raised in Northern California, moved to LA 2 years ago.

“my name is Nikki I'm 25 um I'm originally from Cambodia and I was adopted and brought to Northern California and I moved to LA 2 years ago and I'm an exotic dancer”

IntroRiri introduces herself: 19, pre-law student, wheelchair dancer. Paralyzed at age 8 from botched scoliosis surgery; further paralyzed at 16 from transverse myelitis (mono killed her spinal cord).

“my name is Riri I'm 19 um I'm currently a pre-law student um I also do wheelchair dancing”

IntroCassie introduces herself: 31, mental health advocate, New York, dropped out of psychology. Was diagnosed with ASPD/psychopathy but rediagnosed as Alexithymia. Never had an orgasm. Has underdeveloped amygdala.

“my name is Cassie I'm 31 I'm a mental health Advocate and I live in New York”

IntroD Cav introduces herself: 23, babysitter from Chicago (now LA). Does not have a job beyond babysitting 3x a week.

“my name is D Cav I'm 23 years old and I really don't do anything but I babysit”

IntroMelena introduces herself: 22, personal trainer and Reiki practitioner from LA. NASM certified. Reiki practitioner certified after rehab experience.

“I'm Melena I'm 22 I'm from La mhm um I'm a personal trainer and a raiki practitioner”

IntroJay Hannah introduces herself: 33, Instacart worker, Hollywood CA. Originally from small town North Dakota. Bachelor's in journalism.

“my name is j Hannah I'm 33 years old and I live in Hollywood California Los Angeles... I work for instacart full-time”

IntroLuna introduces herself: 26, exotic dancer and clothing designer, LA. Plans to study pharmacy/become a psychiatrist.

“my name is Luna and I'm 26 years old um currently I am an exotic dancer and I make personal clothing”

Key MomentAli reveals she does not date cisgender men because she is 'not attracted to people born with male privilege.' Brian and Andrew probe the logic at length, eventually Ali clarifies this is tied to childhood trauma (sexual abuse). Generates extended philosophical debate.

“I don't date cisgender men... I'm not attracted to people who are born with male privilege”

QuoteNikki recounts that one of her abusive ex-boyfriends pointed a gun at her face and she had to beg for her life; later another strangled her. She stayed partly because she couldn't leave her pet chinchillas.

“one tried to shoot me like twice... I was crying begging him to stop... the other one just like strangled me”

ControversyMelena recounts that when she was 17 she was sneaking out to meet men from Tinder who knew she was 17. The oldest was 30. Brian notes this was a crime in California. Melena says she was escaping abuse at home and seeking alcohol.

“when I was 17 I would sneak out and meet up with older guys online... the oldest was 30 when I was 17 and they knew I was 17”

ControversyCassie discusses her self-identification as a former 'femcel.' She no longer identifies as one after going on YouTube channels and receiving thousands of emails from interested men. Dispute with Brian and Andrew over whether femcels can truly exist since women can always access sex.

“I used to consider myself a fem cell but I'm no longer a fem cell because I'm around like a lot of guys”

ControversyD Cav admits she is still sleeping with the ex-boyfriend who cheated on her 17 times, solely to keep her body count low. Brian and panel react with shock and humor.

“I'm seeing that X right now... only for sex... I'm not going to up my body count that's literally the only reason why”

IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible, political analyst.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's a popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst”

QuoteJay reveals her worst ex was a SoundCloud rapper with face tattoos who was homeless when she met him, became an alcoholic, wouldn't let her work or go to the gym, criticized her constantly, and she gained 30 lbs during the relationship.

“he was homeless when we met... he wouldn't let me work... I gained 30 lbs when I was in that relationship”

Key MomentAndrew challenges the guests who rated themselves 9-10 to identify their female beauty standard, then pulls up photos showing they bear no resemblance to the women they cited (Zendaya, Elsa Hosk, Beyoncé). Argues that claiming to be a 10 while naming a clearly more attractive woman as the standard is 'slightly narcissistic.'

“if you consider all of these women to be tens and you declared yourself to be an eight nine or ten how could you be... if this woman who you stated was the kind of epitome of perfect Beauty do you look like them — the answer from both tens was yes”

Key MomentBrian argues it is not 'straight' for a cisgender man to date a transgender woman because sex (not gender) defines sexual orientation. Ali and Jay initially disagree, then concede based on Brian's definitional argument. Brian also says the word 'cisgender' offends him; Ali agrees to stop using it around him.

“two males having sex regardless of your gender identity that would be a homosexual act that would be gay it would not be straight”

ControversyBrian gives the 'paternity uncertainty' evolutionary psychology argument for why men prefer low body count women. Ali challenges this as hypocritical since high-body-count men contribute to raising women's body counts. Extended debate with Brian, Ali, and Andrew.

“it's just evolutionary it's just biological... paternity uncertainty... evolutionarily hardwired into men”

QuoteCassie, slightly drunk, reveals she has zero consensual sexual experiences (body count 0) but a BJ count of 7, and that men she's dated have declined to sleep with her because they 'don't want to take advantage of her' due to her autism/Alexithymia.

“consensual zero zero but BJ count seven... a lot of men refuse to have sex with me... they say I don't want to take advantage of you”

OtherAndrew Wilson wraps up his participation and says farewell to the panel around the 6:47 mark.

“very happy to have met all of you my heart out here at 3:00 eastern time... I hope you guys all have a great night”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Setup

Brian opens the show with announcements (streamlabs, Twitch, Discord, WoW guild), then goes around the table for guest introductions: name, age, location, occupation. Guests introduced: Ali Corin (wheelchair dancer), Nikki (Cambodian adoptee/exotic dancer), Riri (pre-law/wheelchair), Cassie (mental health advocate), D Cav (babysitter), Melena (personal trainer/reiki), Jay Hannah (Instacart), Luna (exotic dancer). Andrew Wilson introduced last as co-host.

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares current relationship status, how long single, longest relationship, and who broke up with whom. Highlights: Ali in 2-year polyamorous relationship; Nikki single ~1 year (traumatized by two abusive ex-relationships); Riri single 8 months; Cassie never been in a relationship (femcel discussion); D Cav still sleeping with her cheating ex (camera guy); Melena single 6 months dating a drug addict; Jay single 2.5 years; Luna recently out of a relationship in September 2024.

Ali's Attraction to 'Non-Male-Privilege' People

Extended discussion of Ali Corin's stated reason for not dating cisgender men — 'I'm not attracted to people born with male privilege.' Brian and Andrew probe the logic: does privilege hierarchy matter (e.g., a black man from Compton vs. a billionaire Latina)? Ali clarifies her attraction is also trauma-based (abuse history). Andrew draws parallels to his own philosophical positions on gender pronouns and Orthodox Christianity.

Femcel Discussion

Cassie introduces herself as a former 'femcel' (female involuntarily celibate). Brian, Andrew, and Cassie unpack the term: true involuntary celibacy vs. voluntary celibacy with standards. Brian argues femcels can't truly exist because women can always access sex. Cassie agrees she can no longer identify as a femcel after going viral and receiving thousands of emails from men. Cassie advocates for femcels in Discord communities she participates in.

Pre-Show Notes & Stories

Brian goes through each guest's submitted pre-show notes: Riri's unhinged wheelchair dating app stories; Melena's catfish furniture-assembly scheme; Nikki's two abusive exes (gun incident, strangulation); D Cav's cheating camera-guy ex; Jay's lake cabin Tinder story, $200/day rich man, porn star hookup; Ali's all-queer honey bunny group; Cassie's femcel journey and viral MRI video. Major topics include: ho phases, sex work, toxic relationships.

Wheelchair Dating & Etiquette

Riri and Ali discuss the unique challenges of dating in wheelchairs: uninvited lifting/pushing by dates, dating app responses ranging from fetish to pity, etiquette for able-bodied people, and why Riri chooses not to date another wheelchair user (practical support reasons).

Self-Ratings & Beauty Standards

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Most rate themselves 7-10. Andrew then challenges those who rated themselves 9-10 by asking them to name their female beauty standard (e.g., Zendaya, Victoria's Secret Angels, Beyoncé, Megan Fox) and then showing photos — pointing out they don't actually resemble their stated standards. Discussion about narcissism, whether high self-ratings are narcissistic, and the relationship between attractiveness and dating patterns.

AI Age Progression Photos

Damian displays AI-generated age-progression and age-regression photos of each guest. Guests and Andrew react to how they might look older. D Cav gets 'blue eyes' which confuses everyone. Brian shows a real photo of his ex-girlfriend (Japanese woman) bowing when he returned home late from a podcast, sparking a discussion about traditional female behavior.

Questionnaire Round

Brian reads from a prepared questionnaire: bear vs. man in the forest; height requirements; minimum income requirements; sugar daddies and pay pigs; witchcraft and manifestation; narcissist dating; the gender wage gap; WNBA pay; women's career attractiveness; body count discussion (high body count double standard, men preferring low body count women, paternity uncertainty argument); whether marriage is a bad deal for men; whether you can be sexist toward men; trans women and straight men debate; and whether men put in more effort than women.

Trans Women, Straight Men, & Language Debate

Brian asks panelists whether it's straight for a cisgendered man to date a trans woman. Ali and Jay disagree (say yes, it would be straight). Brian and Andrew argue heterosexual refers to biological sex, not gender identity. Andrew and Brian also discuss Brian finding the term 'cisgender' offensive; Ali eventually agrees to stop using it around Brian if he finds it offensive.

Body Count & Double Standards Debate

Extended back-and-forth between Ali, Brian, and Andrew on whether it's hypocritical for high-body-count men to prefer low-body-count women. Brian argues evolutionary psychology (paternity uncertainty) justifies men's preference. Ali counters that men contribute to high female body counts and that the same logic should apply to women's standards for men. Andrew dissects the definition of hypocrisy. Guests then reveal their body counts: Nikki ~15 (BJ ~20), Riri ~8, Cassie 0 (BJ 7), D Cav 12, Melena ~10 (lost count), Jay lost count (high).

Andrew Wilson Departure

Andrew wraps up his participation around the 6:47 mark, bidding farewell to the panel. He notes he has no ill will despite contentious exchanges, particularly with Ali. Brian thanks him and directs viewers to The Crucible channel.

Roast Session & Final TTS

Brian lowers TTS price to $20 for a roast session. Chat sends roast messages targeting various guests. Political discussion (who voted for Kamala, who voted for Trump). Brian shows video of his Japanese ex-girlfriend bowing. D Cav reveals she's on Ozempic. Cassie gets drunk (had been drinking since arriving from a flight). Final call to action to stop sex work. Brian wraps up the show.

Transcript

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Cassiewhen I think of Urkel I think of young Urkel but I mean grownup Steve Urkel like that's my ideal man like high functioning autistic black dude like that's

Cassiewhat Desmond get over here bro get in here bro what do you think about Desmond like he's too attractive I don't

Andrew Wilsonlike men that are too ATT attrative yes wow you just want a guy who breaks all your [ __ ] and then says did I do that really I think I think that well not going like walk around your apartment

Cassieand break all your stuff and then be like I do that really that's that's that's the uh the goal want high functioning autistic black male and only

Cassiewhite dudes are like in my DM so I just I friendzone them and I'm waiting for my my man so that's what I I want hey it's okay to have a type though I think we

Brian Atlasall do on some level period wait would you Ana do you have a brother no ah would you like date her bro like she's Asian um wait what's the break

D Cav (DJ)percentage breakdown though oh no like would that be but you're like what are you like what is your I'm ty

Nikkiuh no Ty you want do Ty no they H they have small Jack talk tie yeah no no TI don't do ti no you just do like Chinese

D Cav (DJ)and Korean cuz those are the light-skinned Asians like the southeast ones and the dark ones it honestly just depends like I'm not pick I'm not picky with Asians like it could be like like Mongolian like do you [ __ ] with Mongolians I don't know exactly what

D Cav (DJ)they look like you more like but I'm not picky about it it's just like it's based and also I'm based I would like personalities like I fall for personalities but if you're like you're are are you are you going to like try to

Brian Atlasgo to like Korea or Japan or something yeah I'm going to Korea for my birthday dude she's like a reverse passport Korean she's a passport bro she's like [ __ ] these Western dudes I'm going go

Brian Atlasget me a nice Japanese a based Japanese dude actually I just want to go to Korea for the skin care oh okay all right cool nice facial

Andrew Wilsonwell right now there's an incel uprising going on in South Korea so it's it's a really good time to go I know yeah is it is the martial law was that removed or is that still oh no yeah they completely resisted it and it's definitely not

Brian Atlasgoing to go into effect the inels incels one government of South Korea zero no no no but the president I don't know about the inel thing the president uh put into place

Andrew Wilsonmartial law did you hear about this no he attempted to put into place martial law and the population sarily rejected it and Parliament went and said no way

Andrew Wilsonthat's not going to happen so it's over oh it's done okay do you know why why anyway well I don't know if we because they said that they had a actionable threat from North Korea and uh the

Andrew Wilsonpopulation didn't buy it they told him to shut up and uh that's that hasn't really happened before and nobody really knows how to deal with it okay uh well

Brian Atlasanyways getting back to uh this question uh going back around the table uh uh let's see would you rate me

Brian Atlashuh will you rate me you want me to rate you yeah what did you give yourself a 10 uh would I rate you H let me see let

Brian Atlasme to stand up sure why not if you want to go

Brian Atlasahead okay uh you're uhuh you

Brian Atlasare uh you have pretty eyes I'll give you that you uh like a you're like I give you Nate give that's good that's good that's

D Cav (DJ)good no Andrew you yeah what you no no no not him I think that's fair no too far

Backgroundwhat boobs hey shut up Andrew all right that's fact he Andrew Andrew you kind of did say that as a Defender

Brian AtlasI am triggered I am so triggered Andrew as a defender of the itty bitty titty Comm I'm part of the itty bitty titty I prefer I would prefer they're not even itty bitty they're just not titty it's

Andrew Wilsonnot Itty Bitty Titty no titty hey she she's got a solid okay Andrew you are body shaving you m y'all see that little lump right there can I ask come on she

Andrew Wilsonhas a good she has a good sense of humor about this [ __ ] hats off hats off to you that brings your rating up at least 1 point from a 3.4 boom to like a 4.2 is Boom not a it's okay that's go ahead

Nikkiwhat's your question I have a question for you and Andrew um do you guys prefer tits or ass oh boobies or titties well you don't my so okay my answer to this

Brian AtlasI'm a labia guy but that I just want to know tit I'm a labia guy because I only date women with large labia oh okay interesting that's interesting yeah

Nikkithat's interesting so you got to see it first before you before you even get a chance okay what's libia you know Ines and outies like

D Cav (DJ)belly buttons little further south girl little further south yeah like I like the male like I thought it was just more like a scientific more so you're the

Backgroundmale version of a size queen yes I am it is Revenge like there's different ones I never knew until I started dancing you don't have a preference between those two no lady on the table saying like

Backgroundwait guys so this is like I don't know oh so oh theia it's out like there's Wings there's lips wings wings so big inner not big outer Wings specifically

Brian Atlasinner well so yeah there's uh the inner and outer which you prefer both big oh but great if one or the other I I guess the inner the lips that's kind of more

Brian Atlasso my preference but like outer big lab big outer labia good too mhm okay s me up but uh more to work with or huh more to work

Brian Atlaswith or just purely Revenge as you said is that what you said it was Revenge that was banter it's not I don't care not Revenge she was asking she was asking if it was like the reverse of the size queen or the like if I'm the

Brian Atlasequivalent of renge no no not Revenge uh it's just like I think like aesthetic thing kind of like and then there's like a difference yeah so I mean you you date

Brian Atlaswomen right like do you have a preference or you don't care no preference you don't care at all whatever's attached to the person I like yeah and look I'll date a girl with an any but like I got a preference you

Nikkiknow I got a preference what's up I had a girlfriend one time the one time I had a girlfriend and she showed me her vagina and it pretty sure it was like a labia like you said and I didn't like it

NikkiI immediately turned me off from her like not to be [ __ ] up but I like wasn't attracted to her after I seen how it can I mention other show cuz like you should y'all should watch that show naked

Brian Atlasattraction you know what I'm talking about love that anyway idea I'm sure yep um wait so hold on you you rejected her because she had an well we were dating for like 6 months but we never did anything but then she showed me a

Nikkipicture of hers showed you pictur yeah of her vagina and I like was turned off wow is she she's white she's around or uh no we don't talk we haven't talked in years but like we're still be friends

Brian Atlasgive it to me I I can pass it your way I got you you scratch my back I yeah I got you wait you're you're only into white girls no it's cuz of the labia what oh

Brian Atlasno I'll date I date I'll date I date white girls Asian women Latino

Brian Atlaswomen black women mix sometimes mixed race women wans mhm I I'll date anybody if I like them and their lab is

Brian Atlashuge uh but so okay to answer your actual question though uh I don't like boobs don't more of a butt guy like of the two you options more of a butt guy

Brian Atlasthan a boob guy but um I figured most guys prefer butts I mean small boobs cool nice big boobs cool mhm I don't like there's never like if a girl was

Brian Atlastotally flat I wouldn't not date her because of that it's not I don't really care that much and then but also but it's like if she doesn't have a but I don't really care there's more like yeah

Brian Atlasle le is cool I guess but yeah I mean there's more important things too I guess so what about like the BBL Bandits how do you feel about bbl's oh that would be that would actually be a situation where I would probably not

Brian Atlasdate a girl if she had a BBL or fake boobs no offense Nikki that's okay uh just I don't know I don't really like the plastic thing and they look like they're walking around with filled up diapers it's gross the BBL does anybody

Cassiehere have a BBL no no I can't even get my teeth fixed one one guy offered to pay for veneers for me you should have you should have taken that you should it because he's not my type he's not my

Ali Corintype I would have taken it the veneers can't don't have to be your type well listen these things are expensive okay mine fake absolutely you have veneers I don't have veneers I have two Bridges I was born without two of my teeth so like I didn't really get much much but yeah

Brian AtlasNikki just I guess to answer your question totally small boobs big boobs M both cool big butt small butt both you wanted to ask Andrew this too or Andre I

Andrew Wilsonwant to hear what he says if you prefer Asser tits which one do you like better so is this a question of have to choose like um just your preference

Andrew Wilsonreally really nice uh rear but uh flat or they have a really nice rack but you know like no no but is that is that what the heart of the question is I think so

Nikkiyeah like and like you know if you were to have a girlfriend like would you want do you have an idea like you'd want her to have a good body like that like a nice ass or would you be kind of disappointed if she had no ass

Nikkiyou know yeah that would be a deal breaker for me I think yeah I feel I'm done I respect the I think another that would be I think I

Andrew Wilsonthink that that like there's something about that I think for even most men that and I think that it has to do with there's um there's almost this Disney

Andrew Wilsonask image that they tried to capture for years of the hourglass figure of a woman MH and you can see in that hourglass figure they're looking at uh kind of uh

Andrew Wilsonyou know big rack right with a skinny waist which moves into kind of a rounded hip area right and the reason that this

Andrew Wilsonwas uh something of Ideal is because uh all of those things kind of uh coexist with the idea of child birth so it's no

Andrew Wilsonit's no wonder that that so many men are attracted to that type of figure um because obviously the things that we're attracted to with lead to reproduction otherwise we wouldn't be attracted to

Andrew Wilsonhim generally right so there there's no doubt in my mind that Disney tried to capture that image of the shape because it's something that both men like and women aspire to MH you had something oh

Jay Hannahyeah I think another thing that kind of comes into play too is that is that anyone is that like you can you can grow your butt by by going to the gym and like doing certain exercises to grow your butt but if you want to grow your

Jay Hannahboobs like really the only option is plastic surgery yeah y that is true yeah and like I know there's only so much you can do in the gy or you could get fat mhm yeah but

Lunait's really hard to be in the way there or get pregnant and have a bunch of kids so I just realized that this is going to be on the internet forever mhm they actually they actually do have this weight gain thing called a pedin and it

Brian Atlashelps grow your boobs and it helps you grow other things M your penis I don't know does it work for penises you should try it you should try it let us thank you thank you Nikki appreciate M uh all

Brian Atlasright so back to the whole rating thing uh I guess uh let me see here uh just to be clear like so you're 10 I'm an eight just you'd be settling for me I say I

Jay Hannahwant someone another thing too I'm looking for is lify I was saying lifestyle compatibility earlier like I'm really into skin care I'm really into eating healthy going to the gym like I take really good care of myself so I

Brian Atlaswant a guy who also does that okay okay uh so anyways uh so going around the table do you guys uh do you think you'll

Brian Atlasbe better looking in uh 10 years time look uh physical looks do you think they'll be better in 10 years time so you're 27 uh will you be better looking at

Ali Corin37 I hope I look better at 37 I just like to continually improve myself for me but like realistically I'm probably to look like trash I have a degenerative condition so okay and then you're you're

Ali Corin27 were you do you think you were better looking uh at 18 absolutely not I look like a Hob Goblin at 18 I've had the glow up of glow ups it Glow of glow ups

Nikkirepulsive hob go out of 10 would not recommend Hob Goblin okay Nikki you're 25 do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 35 yes cuz I want to be a mil by then and everyone loves a good mil I took some

Nikkimil I love that there's a button just for that there is just he was like opportunity a button for have it yes uh okay what about 20 years time at 45 yeah I would say I want to keep my you know I

Nikkialready have a fast metabolism and I work out from you know my job so I like staying in shape yeah what about uh 30 years time at uh 55 I better be looking this good still at 55 okay 40 years time

Nikkiat 65 I hope I never let myself go I better you know I would hope so so better looking at 65 versus now at 25 no no no I don't think I'd look nobody's going to want me at 65 like every you know what I

Nikkimean like everyone I don't know no I feel like I definely 100y old who'd hit probably in my Prime like now in the next 10 years and then after that I think it's but just to be clear the

Brian Atlascomparison still would be uh you will in 10 years time you'll be better looking at 35 than you are now at 25 yeah I feel like I could and then 45 still 45 better

Nikkithan 25 I feel like I could if I if I continue to work out uh Rachel you 19 but looking in 10 years time at 29 God I hope

Brian Atlasso well regardless of your hope or God um do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 29 uh yeah I do okay

Brian Atlasand then 20 years time at 39 yeah okay 30 years time at 49 probably not okay and then Cassie uh you're 31 better looking in 10 years

Cassietime at 41 no and then you're 31 were you better looking 10 years ago at 21 no I was morbidly OB I was morbidly obese okay so no sure nothing wrong with being

Brian Atlasmorbidly obese but no make that clear well your arteries probably disagree but not yours I I mean like anybody obese in general okay

D Cav (DJ)whatever uh you're 23 better looking in 10 years time at 33 uh better looking than now probably not but I'll still look good still look

Melenagood fair enough and then I thank my black side for that all right uh you're 22 better looking in 10 years time at 32 I think I'll look better cuz hopefully I'll have like big old pregnancy titties

Melenamhm mhm word okay uh what about what if you're not pregnant though um I don't know I think I look like I could still

Melenapass as a minor so I would hope that I would look more like an adult by then what second that one besides the tattoos like I feel like I look pretty young so

Brian Atlasin any case okay I'll uh you're 22 now do you think you'll be better looking as compared to now in 10 years time at 32 I would hope I look more like a woman so yes okay uh what about 20 years time 42

Brian Atlasversus 22 no definitely better now all right uh you're 33 better looking in 10 years time at 43 I mean I plan on it yeah I want to get better and better every year that's the goal okay what

Jay Hannahabout uh 20 in comparison to 33 better in 20 years time at 53 I mean by by then too it's I feel I feel like by then maybe medical technology and skincare will be a lot

Jay Hannahmore advanced by then and healthy food will be better so it's certainly not impossible okay what about 30 years time 63 again you know same thing technolog is going to keep getting more and more

Brian Atlasadvanced and who knows what okay how about this um let's remove the possibility of you ever having any sort of cosmetic procedure or any sort of in you can eat

Brian Atlasreally good whatever totally fine but you can't use any sort of cosmetic intervention so going back to 10 years time 43 versus now 33 I mean if I couldn't do that then

Jay Hannahyeah probably not but I would still look good sure okay and then you're 33 now do you think you are better looking now at 33 than you were at 23 oh definitely like I make I make a lot more money now

Jay HannahI I was broke when I was 23 like I still looked good I still took care of myself as best as I could but like I didn't really have I didn't have a lot of money to spend on healthy food or good skin care or nice clothes and I have that

Jay Hannahmoney now so and I've just I've gotten a lot more confidence since then too I've really kind of found like my style and an aesthetic that I like and I think yeah I definitely think I look better

Brian Atlasnow mainly cuz I love myself more and I have more money okay but so when you say you're more successful you mean like you're able to afford certain things that make you look better is that what you're saying yeah absolutely like

Jay Hannahhealthier food better quality skin care like more expensive nicer clothes things like that which I could not afford when I was 23 cuz I was broke at the time okay but like let's say you became a

Brian Atlasbillionaire and absence any cosmetic surgeries so like at 53 you would be able to buy like the best clothes and eat the best food uh do you think you'll be better looking at 53 as a billionaire

Jay Hannahthan at now at 33 I would say pro at least the same probably this the same yeah at at least yeah do you think 30-year-olds typically

Brian Atlaslook the same as 50-year olds I say if they're if they're not billionaires no how old is uh Jeff Bezos trying to think he's like in his

Backgroundis he almost 60 Donald Trump I was going to say 80 no I think he late bil obviously didn't work

Brian Atlasout okay uh and then you're uh 26 uh better looking in 10 years time at 36 I seem to age backwards so probably

LunaI'm just hoping like she said I just hope that I have like a curvier body and all that more milfy other than that yeah my face stays the same I've looked the same since I was like 12 okay what about

Brian Atlas20 years time at 46 oh yeah I'm going to be like Beyonce 30 years 30 years time

Luna56 that might be when I start declining like the wrinkles will start showing that's the peak like kind of the peak the end of the peak okay yeah okay uh do

Melenawe have the age forward picture pies we'll do both batches stop we're going to do both batches um you got all of them did you account pregnancy for me

Melenano we did not account for pregnancy unfortunately all right oh good sh babe status okay next okay oh God I

Brian Atlasdon't want to see this e e okay so bad brutality so scared me too all right dir you look like you work at the front desk

Backgroundof a elementary school for some I don't know I feel that like a librarian you could be a good libr lady yeah DMV I'll take it D make ugly faces oh oh it's

Backgroundkind of yeah wow all right next okay okay I look I look normal I kind of

Jay Hannahlook like the same next that's how mine's going to work next oh [ __ ] damn oh

Brian AtlasGod so wait which one just wait oh hold on hold on wait wait wait I'm sorry I'm so sorry to do this can you go back to the first one I'm I'll get through them quick but I I just realized something I

Brian Atlasshould do first one yeah and then we'll go through it again pull it up I as before you do it as we're going through I want you to you

Ali Corinto tell me which one you think is better looking okay pull it up left or right oh yeah the right is so much no yeah the left one looks okay more youthful

Andrew Wilsonobviously the left biger scary in the right one okay next yeah they kind of did you dirty on that did they did kind of did you dirty on that one I think

Cassiewhy' your eyes become definitely the left okay next surprisingly I like both of them because I don't really look that bad

Brian Atlasyeah I don't can't really see but yeah okay get this Cur prescription you want some reading glasses or something I can legitimately like barely I literally I literally forgot mine it's okay next

Jay Hannahdefinitely the left bro okay next you look like your mom which one left or right which one you I I look I look rough I'm making I'm going to make sure I do not look like that okay good luck I

Brian Atlasguess all right 20 years time all right uh so left is better looking yeah definitely go ahead G left for sure left okay and then there's a second batch you said you have

Cassiewhy do make my next What's happen big big big is that younger what is that is that younger bigger I me I'm here for it whatever it

Backgroundlet's do like that can we do one with both I at least know how we're roasting me before we roast me no it's which one left or right is that backwards there's a lot of crow feet going on in this in the right picture also like have you seen the like weird uh eye trick where

Nikkithey like turn your eyes upside down it makes you look funky my eyes kind of look like I see it yeah well it's AI so a little left or right left okay next e the left why do they do that what the

Andrew Wilsonhell they like changed my Ray like I yeah she's got a nose job in this one like what's going on here bigger why do her tattoo just completely boobs still

Backgroundlook good your necklace is different what the [ __ ] it's the upside down eyes kind of Frey looking oh like a skin

D Cav (DJ)walker you know why did you get blue eyes that don't look next left or right oh definitely um right wait you

Backgroundlook cute really yeah you look really maybe yo give her your glasses give her honestly you're not far it's not bad no it looks really good actually next in comparison to everyone else my skin

D Cav (DJ)looks sh glow up he said glow up next said glow I like that's how about this one don't you look

Jay Hannahdifferent actually better than the other one yeah if I if I look like that when I'm like 80 that would be good 80 80 or 7080 what's this fil supposed to

Brian Atlasbe wow yeah it's not bad she likes her yeah uh is there more did they do me or I was just going to say that one of your eyes is a different color that's it

Ali Corinthat's actually my so so my personalties is there more there's another one my mul personalities are showing what is it I got 12 uh is it

Brian Atlassafe it's not there's not like to is it me too no okay [ __ ] it pull it up bro it's there's not it's not like nudity right it's not like some [ __ ] up weird [ __ ] right

Brian Atlasno all right bro what the fu oh yo hey dude it's cute it's that [ __ ] ghost who did that

Brian Atlas[ __ ] bro it's a cute picture I like it you know what it was that's that's actually a real picture bro it's actually a real picture yeah [ __ ] there's an indie no

Brian AtlasI'm just kidding okay uh where are we where are we where are we um we need to get through um oh we're going to get into the questionnaire finally getting get

Ali Corininto the questionnaire um so here's the juicy stuff right I feel like we were all confused for this I'm excited to see how many I actually you know what yeah

Brian Atlasum who here wants cold pizza anybody I mean I'll you SCE any maybe yeah maybe we do like a little intermission with the roast session I think could be wanted just are we being

Brian Atlasroasted I want to be roasted I want be roasted fav you want cold pepperoni pizza sure yeah is anyone going to be offend if I pick the pepper huh I'm okay

Brian Atlasthank you though no no so yes yes yes yes yes yes okay yeah we'll do it uh while I'm going to go get that out

Brian Atlasprepped with uh my servant ad dog uh servant uh assistant sorry I need WIP that from the stream I kind of didn't

Brian Atlaseven hear it servant servant lady I totally sounded natural uh um Andrew what is a you know what Andrew why don't you ask them a really

Brian Atlasthought-provoking question politics while I get this pizza served up actually before I get up though guys during this little it's going to be a pizza roast session we're

Brian Atlasgoing to do 69 if you guys want to get a roas in we're going to do a $69 TTS during the pizza intermission if you want to get it in get it in it's going

Brian Atlasto be $69 TTS Andrew take it away good sir yeah so quick question for the panel um and we can start with chair one moving

Andrew Wilsonaround if now I know you guys only compare yourselves to your own standards but within your own standards right uh who would be the woman that you would

Andrew Wilsonpoint to as being the set standard for what you would consider all attractive women to be compared against like in the whoever it is like in the room or no no

Ali Corinno no just in general oh I legitimately don't have one and I know you're going to say that's not the right answer but it's just ISM there's no yeah there's no so like I would say like zind yeah like

Andrew WilsonZinda yeah hang on let's go one at a time going around the table next um Ariana Grande oh yeah Ariana

Riri (Rachel)Grande okay next Renee rap who's Renee rap oh she's like a musician but she also did like musicals

Andrew Wilsonand acting she kind of does a lot okay next next my first grade teacher oh wow yeah like some a famous

Andrew Wilsonperson let's say oh a famous person like just based on looks yeah yeah who whoever you would if if you picture this person this famous person this would be

Andrew Wilsonwhat you would compare uh the beauty standard of all women against kind perfect Beauty standard go ahead Beyonce Beyonce okay next

Jay HannahI said Zena Zinda meline Klein okay oh any of the Victoria Secret

Jay Hannahangels all of them like like Bella yeah or like like like Elsa Hosk or adri

LunaAdriana Lima mhm all them next Megan

LunaFox Fox she's beautiful like young Megan yeah young Megan gotcha Okay so so the follow-up question to this is uh if you

Andrew Wilsonthink that you look anything like the women that you just cited go ahead and raise your hand a little bit little

Andrew Wilsonbit a little bit Yeah so like if we pulled up a picture of her right now yeah oh yeah definitely you would look a

Andrew Wilsonlot like I can see it I can see definitely okay gotcha and then uh the oh it looks like pizza is being served

Andrew Wilsonhere like somewhat I guess somewhat a little bit somewhat yeah got confident yeah now no confence okay okay

Andrew Wilsonfair enough the followup question to this is if you consider all of these women to be tens and you declared yourself to be a 8

Andrew Wilsonn or 10 how could you be an eight n or 10 if these beautiful wom no I said 10 I said 10 yeah okay great how could you be a 10 if the most beautiful woman that

Lunayou can think of you're less attractive than her no I have a point on that I think there's so many different types of beautiful women she was just the easiest one to come up answer and then then

D Cav (DJ)we'll move up right over go ahead wait say sorry say it again are you more or less attracted than this woman I would say well I yeah I would

D Cav (DJ)say same level yeah I would say same level like cuz I think I'm gor I lit personally think I'm really [ __ ] pretty so I personally think that but someone else can disagree with me you know what I mean and I think you

Andrew Wilsondisagree with you no you said that she's the standard of all Beauty right yeah okay cuz I got give me uh

Andrew Wilsongive me this chick's name again Zena with a Z yeah okay how do you not know who zindia is yeah I don't know I don't she play she played in the movie d

Andrew WilsonPlay the movie in Dune with timoy Timothy sh sho you don't look anything like this sh like you look nothing at all like this chick what are you smok

Brian Atlasyou don't look anything like oh my God you a hater you a hater what let me see let me see it what pull up a picture of Zinda you got to pull up a picture Andrew when you say

Brian Atlasshe doesn't when you say she doesn't look like her like you said sorry Zena is like really attractive is that what you're saying yeah you're better looking than her thank you yeah you're better

D Cav (DJ)looking than her why how how would you hold her to the the how would you hold her to the standard of all female Beauty I think because she is like very like she has a very light skin and then also

D Cav (DJ)she's very tall and her body is Slim and she has amazing hair and amazing skin and amazing eyebrows and like yes that's why and she doesn't wear a lot of makeup and she's also very natural with her makeup all the time like doesn't go all

D Cav (DJ)the way out like she do yeah she very natural T yeah she's like I like how natural she is she's all like she's not one like yeah she's all natural that's why like personality

Andrew Wilsontoo intelligent so going over to the who else said that they were a 10 you okay and who did you say was the beauty standard from which you would

Jay Hannahcompare all women well I said the Victoria Secret Angels yeah which one though any of them um all all of them which one you have one in mind though

Jay Hannahprobably there's Elsa Hosk or Adriana Lima or Jasmine jasine

Andrew Wilsontkes and do you think you look like any of these women I say yeah kind of yeah which one probably probably Elsa the blonde

Andrew Wilsonone and it's Elsa Hosk yeah okay let's take a look I want to change my answer too

Andrew Wilsonnow you guys want to change your answers all right let's take a

Andrew Wilsonlook you again you look nothing at all like this one like not even a little bit that's okay yeah I mean it's not it's not even

Andrew Wilsonto say that she's more or less attractive it's just how do you like how do you guys see similarities and features between different women who who don't look anything like you wait the

Andrew Wilsonquestion is a beautiful one you want to give us a lookalike can you do can you do look like know hang on guys I have the audio piece in I can only hear one at a time what were you

Andrew Wilsonsaying do you want to give us a look alike like tell us who you think we look like please do that well I don't know I'm I'm not very good with faces but um especially like famous women cuz I just

Andrew Wilsondon't care that much but when I look at the picture of who it is is that you're saying you look like and I'm trying to look at it and like oh they snapped a picture of her in her Glam and then they

Andrew Wilsonsnapped a picture of her when she's not and thus far you guys really don't look anything like these women you hold to all be nothing you don't look anything like this woman nothing can you can you

Nikkilook up Jano right this who you're talking about oh yeah yeah that is okay can you can you look up Jana Aiko I feel like she's definitely I feel like would look similar to me

CassieI know I feel the same way I only said her the blond one like Adriana Lima and Jasmine aren't blond who do we think are like do we look like him oh okay I don't think I look like Beyonce I think

CassieBeyonce is pretty though yeah that's what the question was oh okay so who um okay so I'd like to change can I change my answer yeah but can you tell me what you

Andrew Wilsonthink the question was yeah um like who do we think is pretty like a 10 yeah yeah so who would you consider the standard of all female Beauty to be

Andrew Wilsoncompared to so this is going to be what you consider like kind of the perfect woman that you would compare yourself to and then the second question was who do we look like was that the second question no no no my second question was

Andrew Wilsonfor those of you who are tens uh this if this if you're a 10 and this woman who you stated was the kind of epitome of perfect Beauty do you look

Andrew Wilsonlike them and the answer from both tens was yes and then when we went and looked they don't look anything like them just really weird I don't I like nothing like

Cassiethem yeah I think I'm a 10 an inner beauty like I try to be a good person but does inner beauty count at all or no because think he really doesn't care

Cassieokay so like if you're trying to be a good person like that doesn't mean anything got it okay yeah we're well we're just looking for a physical standard mhm so

Andrew Wilsonum yes I'm I'm sure that there's wonderful people who have tons of inner beauty and you know they're like multiple burn victims at the ER who are the just like the most internally beautiful people on planet Earth but um

Cassiewe're just looking for kind of the external physical here yeah cuz like I so I have girls and I'm not going to say their name that like talk to me and I would say these girls are T but then

Cassiethey go on like uh boats and they have guys like you know they do things with which is fine and then they get paid like maybe $2,000 or $5,000 and they feel like crap about

Cassiethemselves and then they're telling me how they feel like crap about themselves and I would say like well if you if you want to feel good about yourself then you shouldn't do that but then those men

Cassiepay those women to do that stuff so it's like beauty is is is good and amazing but like some people they feel ugly on the inside for what they do because they

Andrew Wilsonthey have Beauty which is like social Cur currency you know I don't know if anything I'm saying is making any sense but well it makes sense it just doesn't really have anything to do with the

Andrew Wilsonquestion so the question the question ultimately right so for instance what do you guys why do you guys think we ask the 1 to 10 question you think it's like just to be mean or cruel or horrible why

Melenado you think we asked the question anybody know probably because I think you want to see how like out of touch each person is and if they're just

Andrew Wilsonlike or maybe to see how much we value ourselves remember when I asked who had dated a narcissist and basically everybody raised their hand mhm yeah

Andrew Wilsonwell kind of a thing about narcissism is self-aggrandisement Right MH and isn't it interesting to see how many people have beauty standards especially women

Andrew Wilsonhave a beauty standard where they put themselves in the highest echelons of Beauty up there with the most beautiful women who exist on Planet Earth that would be like an 8 n or 10 doesn't that

D Cav (DJ)seem slightly narcissistic or no but it's also yeah just saying that you're you consider yourself beautiful doesn't make you a narcissist it's just your personal opinion cuz you anyone in this room can be have the totally I think it

Andrew Wilsonmakes you a narcissist to say You're beautiful but perhaps it wouldn't you say it's a narcissistic tendency to say you're among the most beautiful in the world but you asked for who you're you asked for our opinion yeah we all going

Andrew Wilsonto have different opinions well if if you if the beauty threshold can only go up to 10 yeah and nothing can be higher than that but again that's our op hang hang on and nothing can be higher than that then if you say you're a 10 you put

Andrew Wilsonyourself in the threshold with the most beautiful women on earth right MH that's not slightly narcissistic but again I'm not going to argue about the fact that it was my opinion I think what she's saying is

Andrew Wilsonlike if everyone answered the way I did then it would be much different yeah like if we all have the same answer it's supposed to be it's supposed to be your opinion that's the point but the point is is that when you look at the kind of

Andrew Wilsonstandard that often women have where they put themselves up into such a high thresholder I am amongst the most beautiful planet Earth right but at the same time they say well I've I've dated

D Cav (DJ)a bunch of narcissists it's like I don't know it sounds kind of narcissistic to me if you say so yeah I guess I'm narcissist I never said I wasn't a narcissist so oh are you maybe maybe in

Andrew Wilsona situation in a certain situation well okay so last question that I guess before we turn it over to Brian in the Rose can you raise your hand if you think you're a narcissist I think I have narcissistic Tendencies what some told

Andrew Wilsonyou that they think you are does that okay yeah that's a good question too has anybody ever said you're a narcissist raise your hand for

Brian Atlasthat just one yeah no I think I've heard it only once all right well uh let's see here uh we have some chats coming through thank you

TTS VoiceDylan Dylan Joe donated $69 ho ho ho I hope st. Nick brings Andrew a new M18 for Christmas and Santa

TTS Voicebans laia plasty for Brian hopefully Madie got a new job in Santa's Workshop the panel misses you who at the panel would bang Santa just shove hands who

Andrew Wilsonwould bang Santa Santa Claus he's too old for me he had does not identify as a CIS male he's like trans hang on if the Twilight vampire

Andrew Wilsonguy can be 600 and all the chicks want to bang him then if Santa Claus is a th000 you don't have a leg to stand on here right but I don't want like he

Andrew Wilsonlooks a thousand oh he that's fair yeah that does make a difference it does make a difference I think yeah yes

Brian Atlasuh you guys all done Nikki take your time that's fine fine thank you Dylan Joe who would you guys bang Santa Claus though did the no no none of us you know

TTS Voicespeaking of which Ro donated $69 I'm so glad you said eyebrows # eybrows matter and natural don't pluck or draw eyebrows thank you R thank you

Andrew Wilsongo ahead Andrew you had something well I was just going to ask very briefly how come you think that women didn't overwhelmingly come out against Twilight for promoting that like a 400-year-old

Andrew Wilsondude dude was dating a 16-year-old how come like wouldn't that be bad for society to promote that H yes kind of gross kind of gross H age Gap

D Cav (DJ)relationship but he is technically but he was just been 16 for a long time he's not a man though he's a vampire Supernatural gu it's a loophole the laws

Andrew Wilsondon't apply for there's no laws for vampires well and then I I do want to just also point out that the love triangle was between that and a guy who turned into a dog and

TTS Voicethis was overwhelmingly saw by women all over the world and they just adored it I just want to point that out M Lucas donated

TTS Voice$100 hey man hater Harpy in H1 can you woman plain how you like them big Olay orange tump nuts juggling in your mouth what take her back of Mind via a script

Brian Atlasand Slither off into the dust bin of History damn oh what damn he copy and pasted that off the internet all right uh Lucas thank you man that came in I

Brian Atlasguess a little earlier but we had to wait for it um all right guys well uh TTS is back up to 200 if any come through in the next minute or two I'll let them come through but the TTS is

Brian Atlasback up to 200 we're going to get into the uh questionnaire here uh Ana could you just start collecting uh maybe is that cup is that M this is yeah I'll let you deal with that in the uh all right

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Brian Atlasyou for the prime Red Bull thank you for the prime really appreciate it man thank you guys so much and then and uh also guys I kind of want to uh maybe we log into my World of Warcraft account and you guys can like hook me up with some like gold and join the guild or whatever

Brian Atlasif you guys are playing on nights Slayer PvP that'd be super appreciative um we might get that set up a little bit later all right let's get into the questionnaire and reminder guys we do

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Brian Atlassupports via TTS uh all right so going around the table uh we're going to start with the uh would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest your answer

Backgroundbear bear okay what about you I said a man man okay I also said a man all right what about you a man a

Brian Atlasman a bear all right yeah a man okay a bear a bear wait so bear

Brian Atlasbear uh bear was that it is that right okay everybody else said man uh so why only exception is if it's Winnie the Pooh uh I would love to meet Winnie the

Brian AtlasPooh yep so why do you pick bear and why don't you pick man go ahead I just feel like I would have like

Ali Corina direct I don't know setup tasks to try and do to get away from a there or beat a bear but like men are unpredictable so you never know what you're getting aren't Bears unpredictable too oh they

Ali Corindefinitely are girl I'm just saying like they tell you like I don't know be bigger than the bear or run from the bear depending on what kind of bear it is it's a silly question so you're going to get a silly answer I don't think it's

Brian Atlassilly but uh and you don't pick the man is there any further reasoning or purely because they're unpredictable and I don't know what I'm going to get I don't know how big the man is I don't know if I can beat this man I'm in a wheelchair

Andrew WilsonI don't think the bear is going to pick me quite frankly okay but the bear couldn't push you through the woods either no but I could push me no man is pushing through the woods I mean I can

Melenaget up technically I can walk so I'm I'm just going to get out of the chair Lally uh why do you pick bear and why don't you pick men um I think with men there's

Melenaa chance of more sexual trauma and I'd rather a bear eat me and kill me than experience more sexual trauma sure all right and then uh what about you

Jay Hannahoh I said man unless it's winie the Pooh oh somebody else said you said very I mean yeah um I would say honestly I wouldn't like either but you got pick one so you pick the bear why do you pick

Lunathe bear why don't you pick the men because I mean obviously men can have they could like she said the sexual thing or also like they could have a gun they could like actually like do something like I don't know they can have a knife like the bear it's like

Brian Atlasyou're going to Maul me or not like I don't think a bear is going to lock me in its basement either so just saying yeah uh okay so then and is that a concern for you too the potential risk

Brian Atlasof like sa with the man okay uh so I guess for those of you who said the bear and said that uh what do you think uh like you've done a risk

Riri (Rachel)assessment what percentage of men do you think would be inclined to essay you well that's I feel like 100% of bears are going to kill me and not 100% of men randomly wandering in the woods are

Riri (Rachel)going to want to kill me I'm sure there's a percentage of them that would be but I feel like a bear is much more dangerous in like a weing the brozen

Brian Atlascon's way oh I meant just collect the stuff but um are you done with this oh no oh I thought it was done maybe uh maybe the the nap napkin napkin over

Brian Atlashere okay so I'll repeat the question thank you those of you who said the bear and you you cited to sa what percentage of men

Ali Corindo you think would be inclined to uh U I genuinely have zero clue about a percentage I think it it doesn't need to be exact but I genuinely don't have an answer for you I don't think that it's

Ali Corinlike a a majority I don't think that it's like I don't know I genuinely have no idea maybe

Lunalike 5 to 10% 5 to 10% okay what about you I was going to say like 50 60% 50 60% that's why there's no other reason a man is in the woods in my head like your

Andrew Wilsonscenario like in my scenario yeah unless he's hunting I would I would just like to assure you that almost every man who's ever been in the woods has almost always been in the woods for reasons

Andrew Wilsonother than the one that you think that they're in the woods for exactly they like they like in fact I'm going to say right now on record that I would be

Andrew Wilsonwilling to put the number at essentially 100% of men who end up in the woods are there for purposes other than that purpose do you want to respond to

Andrew Wilsonthat 100% maybe like 99 or she's the one who gave the no I don't think 1% no way not one 1% of men do not go in the woods

Ali Corinwith the hope of essaying a woman that's just insane no not necessarily that no no no no yeah yeah but would have the capacity to maybe but like with the hope of stop stop stop stop stop stop stop

Brian Atlasstop I have a really good question you guys are saying well what are they doing in the woods how about this

Brian Atlascamping uh you guys ever go to nightclubs you guys ever go to bars mhmh do you think the proportion of men who go to these environments and the with

Brian Atlasthe intention of actually like I'm going to like drug some girls drink or like do something uh UNT you think that's higher at a nightclub or in the woods nightclub nightclub for sure like of the men that

Brian Atlasgo to the woods versus of the men that go to nightclubs bars and parties Etc so why do you guys go to bars nightclubs and parties it's a really good point yeah fa but also

Brian Atlaslike no one goes hoping that they get sexually assaulted anywhere so like should we just be able to go place I'm looking at it you guys are I'm not looking at it from the female perspective I'm looking at it you guys are saying these men have some intention

Ali Corinwhy are they in the woods they're going there for some reason I mean I go to the woods and I go to the club so yeah that's kind of evading my question a little bit but no I'm just you were saying like why would you go there was

Andrew Wilsonit versus the well I mean well the idea is that you would risk a bear there's Predators everywhere spawning into the woods with a bear over spawning into the

Andrew Wilsonwoods with a man because you're afraid that a man will sa you if you think that your chances of running into men in the woods and being sa are significantly lower than going to a nightclub and

Andrew Wilsonbeing sa then why wouldn't you why wouldn't you not go to the nightclub that's just seems like a basic risk assessment analogy that's kind of silly I think the

Ali Corinquestion was also phras inory wasn't it um more men who go to clubs have the intention of not they're going to sexually assault you in the club yeah I would say if you span or if you spawn

Andrew Wilsoninto the woods with a random man uh very few if any would I mean obviously there would be some I guess but almost none would spawn in with the intention of

Melenadoing anything to you right I'm assuming that would be alone in the woods so I would feel safer in a club where there's hopefully at least a few good

Andrew Wilsonpeople that would protect me including like security whereas in the woods there's no one to protect me wouldn't that be a bad risk assessment if you say if you ran into a random man in the woods your chances of getting sa there

Andrew Wilsonare probably less likely than getting sa in a nightclub that still would be a bad risk assessment right no cuz are you assuming the man is it's more likely in the club yeah even a random man in the wood yeah I know that's where I draw the line

Brian Atlascuz I I need a witness I think because I don't drink I feel safer going out huh okay uh I guess followup question then uh does it change anything

Brian Atlasthose of you who picked bear does it change anything if it's 10 Bears or 10 men they both s and they're all together

Brian Atlasit's a group so there's 10 men Al together like random men they just spawn into the force randomly or 10 Bears altogether I don't even like being in elevators with three men or two men like

Melenaso you still do you still pick Bear yeah I think so still pick bear mhm I think so still pick bear I'll just hide no I think I'd choose men because I would hope there's at least one out of the 10

Brian Atlasthat wouldn't let it happen wait but you earlier said that like your you said the percentage in terms of the risk assessment you said it was like 5 to 10% I think you those were the percent so

Brian Atlaslike when it be nine out of the 10 men what are the good ones you said when I asked you like what's the risk assessment when it comes to sa how many per of would do this yeah so wouldn't

Brian Atlaslike wouldn't the clear option then be to pick the 10 men because like nine of those 10 men would like and she said men yeah she yeah oh okay wait what do we okay maybe I

Brian Atlasmisunderstood then uh change anything for you same situation just because of odds I think it comes down to like the aloneness more than the woods okay so you pick you picked the 10 men yeah okay and then quick question coming back to you you said like 50 to 60% of like men

Brian Atlaswould be inclined to do this do you think like do you have any brothers I have two younger brothers can you SC to the table a little bit I have two younger brothers two younger brothers and do you have a father no I have two

Lunamoms they're lesbian I'm adopted okay uh do you have like male relatives cousins uncles this sort of thing I have an uncle and a grandpa but they don't really like have an influence over me

Ali Corinsure do do you think like 50% of the men in your family would uh do this like not oh no if you put it that way then no mine would yours would and I'm not going to name drop but mine have so if you're

Ali Coringoing to go with those odds then yes okay and that's just the ones that you know about so all right so you're saying like 50% of okay I think 50 was a little

Ali Corinexaggerated I just Wasing no 50 was pushing it but a large amount of the name huh well actually we can divide this percentage very quickly just take

Andrew Wilsonthe amount of male family members that you have and with the amount of sa that you know about and then what's the percentage come out to roughly I'm not going to think about that well just look it

Ali Corinup on Google person I don't I don't understand about personal family sexual assault I would like to no longer think about thank you I I don't know what that has to do with the question it has to do with me

Andrew Wilsonbeing uncomfortable thinking about the sexual assault in my family so I'm I think it's just being evasive if it's uh too uncomfortable for you um

Ali Corinthen it's too uncomfortable for you I guess thank you for that being sexually assaulted as a child repeatedly is too uncomfortable for me so I'm tbling this

Andrew Wilsonyeah yeah I know you know you want to so so here's what's happening right so I ask a benign question just based on logic and so instead you want to victim shame like you want to be like I was a

Andrew Wilsonvictim of this horrible thing that happened and you're giving me necessary trauma blah blah blah the intent of the question was not to bring up childhood trauma that I would have no way of knowing ever I know but that's fine but

Andrew Wilsonthe respect would just be to end it when I asked you to end it yeah I did end it I said that's fine and you were like nove on

TTS Voice$100 from a man's point of view if a man was spawned in the woods and saw a random woman the only thing on a man's mind is oh my God dead weight men go to

Brian Atlasthe woods to escape women nagging oh my God literally literally um yo uh by the way the TTS it is still 200 I it slipped through though

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