ONLY 4 SHOWS LEFT? She USES Men?! FEMCEL? CHARGING For Dates?! Wheelchair Dating! | Dating Talk #218

Date: 2024-12-04

Duration: 8h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

RRiri (Rachel)>

CCassie (DT218)>

MMelena (DT218)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(host)

SPEAKER_02Nikki(guest)

SPEAKER_03Background(audience)

SPEAKER_04Luna(guest)

SPEAKER_05Background(audience)

SPEAKER_06D Cav (DJ)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Jay Hannah(guest)

SPEAKER_09Background(audience)

SPEAKER_10Ali Corin(guest)

SPEAKER_11Riri (Rachel)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Melena(guest)

SPEAKER_14Cassie(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAli Corin introduces herself: wheelchair dancer, 27, from Fresno area, moved to Santa Barbara. Ambulatory wheelchair user — has genetic condition causing daily joint dislocations and a TBI. Has had wheelchair for ~4 years.

“my name is Ali Corin I am 27 and I just moved to Santa Barbara and I am a professional dancer for my wheelchair”

IntroNikki introduces herself: 25, exotic dancer, originally from Cambodia, adopted and raised in Northern California, moved to LA 2 years ago.

“my name is Nikki I'm 25 um I'm originally from Cambodia and I was adopted and brought to Northern California and I moved to LA 2 years ago and I'm an exotic dancer”

IntroRiri introduces herself: 19, pre-law student, wheelchair dancer. Paralyzed at age 8 from botched scoliosis surgery; further paralyzed at 16 from transverse myelitis (mono killed her spinal cord).

“my name is Riri I'm 19 um I'm currently a pre-law student um I also do wheelchair dancing”

IntroCassie introduces herself: 31, mental health advocate, New York, dropped out of psychology. Was diagnosed with ASPD/psychopathy but rediagnosed as Alexithymia. Never had an orgasm. Has underdeveloped amygdala.

“my name is Cassie I'm 31 I'm a mental health Advocate and I live in New York”

IntroD Cav introduces herself: 23, babysitter from Chicago (now LA). Does not have a job beyond babysitting 3x a week.

“my name is D Cav I'm 23 years old and I really don't do anything but I babysit”

IntroMelena introduces herself: 22, personal trainer and Reiki practitioner from LA. NASM certified. Reiki practitioner certified after rehab experience.

“I'm Melena I'm 22 I'm from La mhm um I'm a personal trainer and a raiki practitioner”

IntroJay Hannah introduces herself: 33, Instacart worker, Hollywood CA. Originally from small town North Dakota. Bachelor's in journalism.

“my name is j Hannah I'm 33 years old and I live in Hollywood California Los Angeles... I work for instacart full-time”

IntroLuna introduces herself: 26, exotic dancer and clothing designer, LA. Plans to study pharmacy/become a psychiatrist.

“my name is Luna and I'm 26 years old um currently I am an exotic dancer and I make personal clothing”

Key MomentAli reveals she does not date cisgender men because she is 'not attracted to people born with male privilege.' Brian and Andrew probe the logic at length, eventually Ali clarifies this is tied to childhood trauma (sexual abuse). Generates extended philosophical debate.

“I don't date cisgender men... I'm not attracted to people who are born with male privilege”

QuoteNikki recounts that one of her abusive ex-boyfriends pointed a gun at her face and she had to beg for her life; later another strangled her. She stayed partly because she couldn't leave her pet chinchillas.

“one tried to shoot me like twice... I was crying begging him to stop... the other one just like strangled me”

ControversyMelena recounts that when she was 17 she was sneaking out to meet men from Tinder who knew she was 17. The oldest was 30. Brian notes this was a crime in California. Melena says she was escaping abuse at home and seeking alcohol.

“when I was 17 I would sneak out and meet up with older guys online... the oldest was 30 when I was 17 and they knew I was 17”

ControversyCassie discusses her self-identification as a former 'femcel.' She no longer identifies as one after going on YouTube channels and receiving thousands of emails from interested men. Dispute with Brian and Andrew over whether femcels can truly exist since women can always access sex.

“I used to consider myself a fem cell but I'm no longer a fem cell because I'm around like a lot of guys”

ControversyD Cav admits she is still sleeping with the ex-boyfriend who cheated on her 17 times, solely to keep her body count low. Brian and panel react with shock and humor.

“I'm seeing that X right now... only for sex... I'm not going to up my body count that's literally the only reason why”

IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible, political analyst.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's a popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst”

QuoteJay reveals her worst ex was a SoundCloud rapper with face tattoos who was homeless when she met him, became an alcoholic, wouldn't let her work or go to the gym, criticized her constantly, and she gained 30 lbs during the relationship.

“he was homeless when we met... he wouldn't let me work... I gained 30 lbs when I was in that relationship”

Key MomentAndrew challenges the guests who rated themselves 9-10 to identify their female beauty standard, then pulls up photos showing they bear no resemblance to the women they cited (Zendaya, Elsa Hosk, Beyoncé). Argues that claiming to be a 10 while naming a clearly more attractive woman as the standard is 'slightly narcissistic.'

“if you consider all of these women to be tens and you declared yourself to be an eight nine or ten how could you be... if this woman who you stated was the kind of epitome of perfect Beauty do you look like them — the answer from both tens was yes”

Key MomentBrian argues it is not 'straight' for a cisgender man to date a transgender woman because sex (not gender) defines sexual orientation. Ali and Jay initially disagree, then concede based on Brian's definitional argument. Brian also says the word 'cisgender' offends him; Ali agrees to stop using it around him.

“two males having sex regardless of your gender identity that would be a homosexual act that would be gay it would not be straight”

ControversyBrian gives the 'paternity uncertainty' evolutionary psychology argument for why men prefer low body count women. Ali challenges this as hypocritical since high-body-count men contribute to raising women's body counts. Extended debate with Brian, Ali, and Andrew.

“it's just evolutionary it's just biological... paternity uncertainty... evolutionarily hardwired into men”

QuoteCassie, slightly drunk, reveals she has zero consensual sexual experiences (body count 0) but a BJ count of 7, and that men she's dated have declined to sleep with her because they 'don't want to take advantage of her' due to her autism/Alexithymia.

“consensual zero zero but BJ count seven... a lot of men refuse to have sex with me... they say I don't want to take advantage of you”

OtherAndrew Wilson wraps up his participation and says farewell to the panel around the 6:47 mark.

“very happy to have met all of you my heart out here at 3:00 eastern time... I hope you guys all have a great night”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Setup

Brian opens the show with announcements (streamlabs, Twitch, Discord, WoW guild), then goes around the table for guest introductions: name, age, location, occupation. Guests introduced: Ali Corin (wheelchair dancer), Nikki (Cambodian adoptee/exotic dancer), Riri (pre-law/wheelchair), Cassie (mental health advocate), D Cav (babysitter), Melena (personal trainer/reiki), Jay Hannah (Instacart), Luna (exotic dancer). Andrew Wilson introduced last as co-host.

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares current relationship status, how long single, longest relationship, and who broke up with whom. Highlights: Ali in 2-year polyamorous relationship; Nikki single ~1 year (traumatized by two abusive ex-relationships); Riri single 8 months; Cassie never been in a relationship (femcel discussion); D Cav still sleeping with her cheating ex (camera guy); Melena single 6 months dating a drug addict; Jay single 2.5 years; Luna recently out of a relationship in September 2024.

Ali's Attraction to 'Non-Male-Privilege' People

Extended discussion of Ali Corin's stated reason for not dating cisgender men — 'I'm not attracted to people born with male privilege.' Brian and Andrew probe the logic: does privilege hierarchy matter (e.g., a black man from Compton vs. a billionaire Latina)? Ali clarifies her attraction is also trauma-based (abuse history). Andrew draws parallels to his own philosophical positions on gender pronouns and Orthodox Christianity.

Femcel Discussion

Cassie introduces herself as a former 'femcel' (female involuntarily celibate). Brian, Andrew, and Cassie unpack the term: true involuntary celibacy vs. voluntary celibacy with standards. Brian argues femcels can't truly exist because women can always access sex. Cassie agrees she can no longer identify as a femcel after going viral and receiving thousands of emails from men. Cassie advocates for femcels in Discord communities she participates in.

Pre-Show Notes & Stories

Brian goes through each guest's submitted pre-show notes: Riri's unhinged wheelchair dating app stories; Melena's catfish furniture-assembly scheme; Nikki's two abusive exes (gun incident, strangulation); D Cav's cheating camera-guy ex; Jay's lake cabin Tinder story, $200/day rich man, porn star hookup; Ali's all-queer honey bunny group; Cassie's femcel journey and viral MRI video. Major topics include: ho phases, sex work, toxic relationships.

Wheelchair Dating & Etiquette

Riri and Ali discuss the unique challenges of dating in wheelchairs: uninvited lifting/pushing by dates, dating app responses ranging from fetish to pity, etiquette for able-bodied people, and why Riri chooses not to date another wheelchair user (practical support reasons).

Self-Ratings & Beauty Standards

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Most rate themselves 7-10. Andrew then challenges those who rated themselves 9-10 by asking them to name their female beauty standard (e.g., Zendaya, Victoria's Secret Angels, Beyoncé, Megan Fox) and then showing photos — pointing out they don't actually resemble their stated standards. Discussion about narcissism, whether high self-ratings are narcissistic, and the relationship between attractiveness and dating patterns.

AI Age Progression Photos

Damian displays AI-generated age-progression and age-regression photos of each guest. Guests and Andrew react to how they might look older. D Cav gets 'blue eyes' which confuses everyone. Brian shows a real photo of his ex-girlfriend (Japanese woman) bowing when he returned home late from a podcast, sparking a discussion about traditional female behavior.

Questionnaire Round

Brian reads from a prepared questionnaire: bear vs. man in the forest; height requirements; minimum income requirements; sugar daddies and pay pigs; witchcraft and manifestation; narcissist dating; the gender wage gap; WNBA pay; women's career attractiveness; body count discussion (high body count double standard, men preferring low body count women, paternity uncertainty argument); whether marriage is a bad deal for men; whether you can be sexist toward men; trans women and straight men debate; and whether men put in more effort than women.

Trans Women, Straight Men, & Language Debate

Brian asks panelists whether it's straight for a cisgendered man to date a trans woman. Ali and Jay disagree (say yes, it would be straight). Brian and Andrew argue heterosexual refers to biological sex, not gender identity. Andrew and Brian also discuss Brian finding the term 'cisgender' offensive; Ali eventually agrees to stop using it around Brian if he finds it offensive.

Body Count & Double Standards Debate

Extended back-and-forth between Ali, Brian, and Andrew on whether it's hypocritical for high-body-count men to prefer low-body-count women. Brian argues evolutionary psychology (paternity uncertainty) justifies men's preference. Ali counters that men contribute to high female body counts and that the same logic should apply to women's standards for men. Andrew dissects the definition of hypocrisy. Guests then reveal their body counts: Nikki ~15 (BJ ~20), Riri ~8, Cassie 0 (BJ 7), D Cav 12, Melena ~10 (lost count), Jay lost count (high).

Andrew Wilson Departure

Andrew wraps up his participation around the 6:47 mark, bidding farewell to the panel. He notes he has no ill will despite contentious exchanges, particularly with Ali. Brian thanks him and directs viewers to The Crucible channel.

Roast Session & Final TTS

Brian lowers TTS price to $20 for a roast session. Chat sends roast messages targeting various guests. Political discussion (who voted for Kamala, who voted for Trump). Brian shows video of his Japanese ex-girlfriend bowing. D Cav reveals she's on Ozempic. Cassie gets drunk (had been drinking since arriving from a flight). Final call to action to stop sex work. Brian wraps up the show.

Transcript

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Cassiefrom getting um like attention from men that they don't want like it it it makes them like Angry uh Damian I'm going to have you pull something up you're going to open

Brian Atlasthe Dropbox I think it's in the drop yeah it is okay get the Dropbox going or sorry not Dropbox Discord you're going to go down to the media folder and then it's the third one

Brian Atlasdown from the top and then you're going to load that up like full full screen it okay do you have

Brian Atlasit third one down it's the like the cartoon drawing you have it yeah and then just like open in browser and then show us that so I mean this is essentially what the fem cell is

Brian Atlasis that fair is that fair characterization of what a fem cell is the majority of them don't look like that but like the Dynamics with like here's all these potential suitors that

Cassieare like hi I'm here I'll have sex with you and they're like no yeah in Discord some of the girls said that they don't date interracially or they don't dat guys that are you know shorter than them

Cassieor like they don't dat guys that are what whatever and so for them they don't feel like it's a choice because they can't get with the men that they want to

Cassieget you're no longer a fem cell I I would so because so I I turned down a guy because he's just yeah I'm I can't be a fem cell I'm sorry if I cut you off

Cassieearly but I can't be a fem cell anymore so it's kind of just being picky but I mean even before like having standards you weren't having standards would probably be a better just type like so

Brian Atlaslike basically the definition that you use essentially would apply to like almost all women because I feel like all women like complain about like oh here's the guy who will like [ __ ] me but won't give me a relationship well these women

Cassieare what you would what most people would consider below average in attractiveness so they don't cons even like attractive women can't always get like the relationship with the guy they

Brian Atlaswant okay then yeah yeah but in any case like the whole fem cell thing I just I think it's uh I mean using the definition like that's it's I don't know if it's mod and Bailey or just like a

Brian Atlastotally Shifting the glost kind of but basically cell the term cell has to do with celibacy so it strictly has to do with sex so like this idea that you're a fem cell and you can't get the

Brian Atlasrelationship you want well you're using the just the incorrect wording cell has to do with celibacy if like pretty much any woman even if she's like well below

Brian Atlasuh her like if her looks are really below average she can still get sex incredibly easy it's a it's called a category mistake or category error

Cassiefallacy I tried to tell them that like on you know the various sites and they will curse me out and they will tell me well it's easy for you to say and I'm like what are you talking about but I

Cassieunderstand what what they're saying because these women they want men that they think are what you know they

Cassiedeserve and I I'm like okay well cuz I used to be I used to be 230 lbs and I lost a lot of weight from for my health

Cassieand um I did see a difference in what people like me and what people liked me when I was bigger and sometimes I say well you know you have to lose weight

Cassiefor you don't lose weight to try to find a man and they're like well a a guy has to love me how I am which is true but if you don't love you how you are then like

Cassiehow can a guy love you how you are and I try to you know tell them like it starts with loving yourself and they'll tell me to go myself right okay um and you went

Brian Atlason like soft white underbelly correct yeah and then you went on like some other YouTube channel and they like interviewed you and it got thousands of hundreds of thousands of views yeah my

Cassiecousin um so I'm I don't even have an Instagram my cousin um she's been trying trying to get me clout from a MRI and a

Cassiepsyche V and I'm surprised that that could even get anybody clout honestly yeah okay what the hell are you talking

Brian Atlasabout you talking about I don't know um I feel like you can get cled from anything nowadays you can get cled from anything nowadays but so okay just just to wrap this up here so sorry about you used to identify as femel but then you

Brian Atlaswent on these shows and like after being on these shows and talking about your difficulties and struggles when it comes to dating I got a lot of emails from dudes you were inundated with contact from men and they were basically making

Brian Atlasthemselves available for like a sexual encounter yeah okay so like what I I think this would just immediately disprove that like a female involuntary involuntary celibate can exist because I don't think like if a male incel like

Brian Atlaswent on a show like this that there would be like he perhaps he might it's possible he might get some contact but like it would be like how many how many emails did you get from men hundreds

Brian Atlasthousands thousands thousands yeah I could see like a guy in cell maybe going on like one of these shows and maybe getting like one or two messages from a woman like willing to [ __ ] him even then I think it's very unlikely um so I just

Brian Atlasthink that's kind of like interesting and also this can be tested really easily like all you would pretty much have to do is like if a fem cell came on the show I would essentially just be like um would you like to have sex after

Brian Atlasthe show and then like okay cool oh oh you you wouldn't okay you're no longer a fil cell then so GG Checkmate well played boom roasted not you not you just like it'd be very

Brian Atlaseasy to test this out you know so um anyways uh all right well thank you for sharing wait what well Brian but but what if what if she was heinous and then said yes right well I don't have to go

Andrew Wilsonthrough with it well well but but then how could you actually know okay then I'll go through with it just cuz YOLO [ __ ] yolo whatever how could you really know right because then

Andrew Wilsonat that point you're just saying that you think she would right but that doesn't mean you could I could yeah that doesn't mean you actually could so then therefore perhaps she wouldn't actually

TTS Voicebe a p I think you'd have to go through with it bro meet the Kaa donated $200 all these women telling these sad stories and not a single one of them

TTS Voiceseems to care about Brian's traumatic trip to nevland wasn't traumatic the poor guy is hurting I got your back D nothing happened man it was

Brian Atlasvery nice I shook his hand I shook his hand that was it there was people around nothing happened I'm sure you just remember who they wiped your memory that was that was mccol kin I think who by

Andrew Wilsonthe way he moli culin who was hanging out with with MJ said nothing happened you mean um massive junky drug addict checked into

Andrew Wilsonevery cych on planet Earth mcol culen who has clearly the significant childhood trauma MC like that mcol kulen you

Brian Atlasmean probably um we we'll get the rest of the relationship status so um okay uh what about you um my longest relationship was 5

Brian Atlasyears and are you currently single uh yeah um yes I would say so all right longest relationship 5 years

D Cav (DJ)uh how long you been single for uh about a year was that the 5year one was that the one no that that was my the one that was my threeyear one I've been in two long relationships and that's I've only

D Cav (DJ)dated two people so the one that ended a year ago how long was that one three years three years uh who broke up with who um I broke up with him and then the 5-year one who broke up with who I

D Cav (DJ)actually moved to California and kindess yeah but I it was I broke up with him yeah uh why did you break up with the

D Cav (DJ)most recent guy um I broke up with him because he is a cheating B he cheated on

D Cav (DJ)you okay question did he cheat up or down seven like 17 times like oh yeah like with 17 different women basically cuz but you have to also consider like what you consider cheating you know what

D Cav (DJ)I mean like but also going into someone's DMS and calling them beautiful that's cheating for me you know what I mean okay so that's cheating so well was he sleeping with other women um no he was going out and making out with girls

D Cav (DJ)when they he's like like he was basically at work like on his lunch break he would have people make out with him on his like he where he work he actually is works at the a weed company

D Cav (DJ)he used to work for a weed company so he's just making out with the like yeah like he literally he would literally but he's also a photographer so he'd be like oh let's do a photo shoot and then he would literally cheat on me with the girls he

D Cav (DJ)shot like literally and I'm like wait you said he was ju wait just making out or that's what he told you that's what no okay I literally know that he's had girls he's literally

D Cav (DJ)had a photo shoot with girls and asked them he's asked them to give him head in their own car because he doesn't drive so this is not the

D Cav (DJ)right so yeah wow sounds like a winner dude and it's like yeah no that's that's why I broke up with him you know I went back a few times you know like cuz he was like when I moved to

D Cav (DJ)California he was like the very very very first person I knew yeah like he was the very first and like we met through Instagram before I moved here cuz he's a photographer right and I wanted to shoot with him type of thing and yeah so that's why I ended up dating

D Cav (DJ)him did he ask for a BJ from you on the shoot no like it was so weird because we were we were supposed to do a photo shoot he showed up without his camera weird right that's typical La [ __ ] yeah so then like but when I was my

D Cav (DJ)first my 5e long relationship he um I moved out here and I met him so it was kind of right it you scheduled a photo shoot he reached out to you no I reached out when I was still I was I finished

D Cav (DJ)high school in Nebraska so when before I so I moved to California from Nebraska and I hit him up I was like oh yeah I'm about to like you know move to LA I'm about to like like build my portfolio whatever like yo are you down to shoot

D Cav (DJ)when I get there basically that's how I like I hit him up for a pho shoot like and he doesn't have any pictures on his Instagram of his face so I did not know who this man looked like it's not more like it was I was attracted to him right

D Cav (DJ)away it was nothing like that it was like literally just simply he pretty you don't need to say his name but pretty well-known photographer or I mean but you knew of him you were in Minnesota you said Nebraska Nebraska you knew

D Cav (DJ)about him no because I only knew about him because we had a mutual friend that my our mutual friend shot with him before and it's on her Instagram so I just you hit him up like hey I want head

D Cav (DJ)shot or no it was more like just like um Instagram pictures like yeah all right and we yeah so you scheduled to shoot yes does he charge or was no see that's the

D Cav (DJ)thing that's how you know that he's just wants to [ __ ] bro because he doesn't even he literally doesn't charge no doesn't charge nobody like he doesn't make money from it at all well I mean there's a charge right there's a

D Cav (DJ)charge but so he shows up and he doesn't have his C have his camera at all just a joint takes you on a date I guess no like we're supposed we went to a view where I wanted to take pictures you know what I mean but it it was that was it

D Cav (DJ)like there was no pictures taken and more just like chilling like it was like he just like pushed me into a date like like date you guys just hung out yes and I'm over there like thinking like where

D Cav (DJ)the [ __ ] is your camera like I'm in my I'm in my fit like you continue to date him no because that was when I first met him and so that's we we came just kind of became friends cuz I didn't know

Andrew Wilsonanyone here like I moved I was like 18 years old and the strategy I didn't know anyone I was by myself and so wait the strategy of showing up with no camera in a joint works

D Cav (DJ)I I guess but no but I just like I had no intention of like dating him you dated him for what two years you said three years three years but like when we like he would come on to me every time we would hang out like but I would

D Cav (DJ)always turn it like turn it down but then I was just like but and then my ex in Nebraska I was like like I did it I made

D Cav (DJ)out with my ex of 3 years simply to make my ex Nebraska jealous so before you dated yes before I dated him and so that's where the feelings started involving because we

D Cav (DJ)became more intimate I was no int yeah so we we were friends for like 3 months before I even considered like but it was like basically so the showing up with no camera and it was weird it was weird for

Andrew Wilsonme but I ALS you're saying is is that this strategy works is what you're saying it it could yeah okay like but I had no intention like it was like he was

Brian Atlasdefinitely not my type but it worked uh it worked okay damn that's uh and it's annoying that's almost

Brian Atlaslike is that like casting couches I don't know I don't know um I mean not really well no but like no it's like kind of like slimy

Brian Atlaslike oh I'm inviting you for a photo shoot but then like I have these ulterior motives of like it is kind of slimy I think yeah they know him but it worked but AB but it worked Bri

D Cav (DJ)like well that's I mean how long did you know him before you used him for a kiss uh 3 months see did it really yeah see I didn't had no intention I

D Cav (DJ)literally just like I kissed him to make my ex Nebraska jealous but that's where I only became it became more of a mindset where I was like oh maybe maybe

Andrew Wilsonbecause okay he's not my type I would say got foot in the door right it got the foot in the door that was the that's the goal right get the foot like B he

D Cav (DJ)was biting his time when you needed to uh use him but like no it was not like that whole intention it was in the it was that was like it was that day thing my ex did something and I was like [ __ ] it he was convenient he was close he was

Melenaconvenient yes it was just a day it was just a day thing like got really hot PS that would would better she's so insanely out of his league if you saw is he what what do you mean he's like

Jay Hannahphysically she's so insanely out of his League obvious I feel like that's typical with these guys who are losers it's like the girl is always way out of their

Brian Atlasleague anyways okay so you uh said you maybe have a roster currently though a roster yeah how many guys are on the roster

D Cav (DJ)see y'all are going to hate me about that uh what happened was I'm seeing that X right now oh oh dude but what

D Cav (DJ)wait which X which my this one from La the camera the camera guy but that's only Pur only for sex wait hold on wait wait wait hold on just to be clear let's

Brian Atlasdo a little let's do a little rewind here myself now so the guy who cheated on you 17 times yes um the guy who cheated on you

Brian Atlas17 times you were dating him for three years you broke up a year ago you're still now you've just given him essentially what he wants which is

Brian Atlassexual access to you without commitment mhm is the sex really good or something yes oh boy dickmatized I plead the there

D Cav (DJ)man women make great choices no but it's not like I'm we're not dating or anything I have my roster I do stop it get some help bro I do have my roster how many

Brian Atlasokay how many other guys are you hooking up with no

D Cav (DJ)I like I make out with people I make out with guys like at clubs and stuff wait so question but you like go out on dates with other dudes yes yeah is there okay how many guys currently are you kind talking

Brian Atlasto um I would say like five like five okay multiply by three and that's the real number but yeah no like five definitely

D Cav (DJ)okay like five so but it's like I don't it's like I spend time like I spend time with them and do they but but you I do not sleep with them you don't have sex with them but but you do let them take

Brian Atlasyou on dates and pay for everything and oh no they don't pay for everything any shopping dudes like do you have one dude over here oh yeah he takes me to shop this they're like broke college students bro oh okay yeah okay but they have

Andrew Wilsonsomething going for them so can I just make sure so that I'm clear on where we're at right now on the recap camera guy shows up without a camera and a joint 3 months later he's he's 3 months

Andrew Wilsonlater you're hooking up with him you stay with him for three years cheats on you multiple times with other women who he employs the same strategy on and on top of that he's still currently sleeping with you even though you know

D Cav (DJ)all of this see when you put it that way when you put it that way it does sound pretty crazy I say it like that but y That's accurate accurate

Brian Atlasaccurate accur accurate accur that's uh that's quite the story there um did you ever end up getting a photo shoot out of him

Brian Atlasat least I guess a few actually yeah and those photos came out mom does he shoot stuff for like uh like any adult stuff

Brian Atlasno okay huh that's uh quite how tall is he 55 oh

D Cav (DJ)okay I told you he's 55 yeah I like my short King how tall are you 5'4 damn this guy's is he is he like out a [ __ ] tree trunk

Andrew Wilsonor what's going on let's just say he's Mexican what does that even mean if y'all know you know if you know you know that is not the stereotype generally associated with

D Cav (DJ)that just so you know that's not the normal stereotype so you would know I I said do you know what a stereotype is yeah but like if you EXP exped it you would know if we experienced Mexicans you would

Brian Atlasknow what well I mean I wonder where's The Stereotype come from I got I think I got to send the asteroid for the whole just the whole like getting back with

Brian Atlasthe guy and then there's in fact hold on let me just bomb this entire Studio holy [ __ ] dude just that's wild I

Brian Atlasthat's C hey good for you though I guess I could uh good for you good for you um damn how did so um what's that song from the

Nikki90s it's like wasn't me what's that song Shaggy or whatever like Shaggy thank you thank you was that like when you caught him cheating

D Cav (DJ)like what did he deny it no he always like he always just comes up and like yeah we love H okay were you you guys were in a

Brian Atlasmonogamous relationship like were you seeing Oh monogamous is just well were you seeing hold on for the three-year relationship were you seeing other guys no oh so it was closed on your end yeah

D Cav (DJ)basically oh wait so hold on was he up front like saying hey by the way no you can't see other dudes but I'm going to see other girls it was your intention was for it to be I was not seeing any other man

D Cav (DJ)monogamous means only dating one person oh yeah yeah yeah yeah okay it was monogamous yeah like it was Clos on my end but he just but when he I confronted him he would be like yeah yeah yeah I did that

Brian Atlasso it was damn this guy can we get this guy on the [ __ ] show 55 Mexican don't give him the clout cheated on her 17

Andrew Wilsontimes and he's still admitted to it hang on admitted to it every single time and he's still to this day this is the Riz of the the century

D Cav (DJ)but yeah but you're you're got the r of the C yeah but you're acting you're like making it sound like he he's like I did that like I'm let him back him into my life simply because I don't want to up

Brian Atlasmy body count that's literally the only reason why that like I literally sleep with the same four people wait but hold on like I this I know it doesn't really add to your body count but the fact that

D Cav (DJ)he's [ __ ] other people like B no he's not now like okay like yeah where's where's he at at my house where's he at in my house he's probably [ __ ] the chick at your house no my mom still

Andrew Wilsonlives with me so I know she know he's not this guy seems like he's got mom there he's got some [ __ ] [ __ ] watching hang on this brings up another point when you say you babysit yeah uh

Andrew Wilsondoes this guy live with you no he doesn't live with you no okay gotcha yeah does he have kids no okay not that he

D Cav (DJ)knows stop could be out there you know well he's had 17 chances no he's like crazy but he's more like the type of guy that's scared of having sexual

D Cav (DJ)intercourse it's like but he'll definitely accept head from a girl like yeah his body count is only like like five like no it's actually eight

D Cav (DJ)now but like he's like scared of like that but he'll definitely gete from a female that's for sure that's not part of the body count you count that it's like yeah I would count that I think if

Andrew Wilsona chick okay it's probably high dude it's chick blow dude that needs to be added okay that needs that needs to be added to the count what's the audio at

Brian AtlasDamian can you see if the yeah okay it's uh maybe just 92 I think for now um all right well uh we'll get everybody else's uh relationship status what about you um

Brian AtlasI'm single I'm seeing one person right now wait you're single but seeing one person right how long have you been seeing this person um a few months uh

Melenaall right are you is he also just seeing you um for the first little bit we like weren't seeing other people

Melenaor we were seeing other people um lately it's just been us okay yeah and uh longest relationship um a little over a

Brian Atlasyear all right uh how long youve been single since July 6 months all right was that the one that ended uh 6 months ago the one-ear relationship no how long was

Melenathe one that ended 6 months ago that one I want to say like nine months okay who broke up with who um he broke up with me one your relationship who broke up with who um he broke up with me okay damn

Brian Atlaswhat are you doing man um I keep dating drug addicts and then they relapse wow that's uh stop it get some

Melenahelp I'm sober what what drugs typically meth are you lik to meth ads or we actually talked about that on our podcast and she was like at least they have something going for them and I was

Melenalike what that they used to shoot meth so you're spot on um meth heroin just junkies um it's not on purpose it just

Melenakind of happens I'm also sober so I usually meet them in AA that's a cool place to meet somebody that's always good um yeah very smart

Brian Atlascool cool and then uh let's see uh okay and you're currently but you are seeing a guy do you have a roster besides him um

Brian Atlasthere's people in the DMS but I'm not hanging out with anyone okay lately all right uh well how about this for the couple months that you've been seeing

Melenathis current guy who you're seeing MH have you been involved with other men during that time period yeah there was one other that um crossover yeah um he was aware of it

Melenathough we were both seeing other people um and we went on a few dates I was talking to him for about a month and then found dark havia found out for me that he was still screwing his ex and

Brian Atlaslying to me about it good times good times all right what about you moving on oh my uh I'm single right now okay single how long you been

Brian Atlassingle for about two and a half years all right longest relationship two years who broke up with who it was a he broke up with me it was my college ex okay and then the relationship that ended two and

Brian Atlasa half years ago who broke up with who uh so uh he he also broke up with me all right and then uh you've been single for 2 and a half years

Jay Hannahany anything in the picture in that period uh I mean right now no one I'm right now I I work a lot like I'm not really trying to date right now I like I don't use any dating apps I just don't

Jay Hannahreally try to meet guys right now I'm really focused on I'm really focused on work right now I think I love money more than men right now I like I like money a lot so I'm

Jay Hannahworking a lot and I'm also very I'm very picky like I'm cuz my my La my last ex the one I broke up with two and a half years ago he was he was very abusive it

Jay Hannahwas a very toxic relationship and he basically Ru ruined my life in every way possible and it was just so it was just so bad and now I realized why I was

Jay Hannahattracted to him was basically I just I wanted the validation of being being chosen by a guy mhm like basically I I had low self-esteem and just wanted the validation of being in a relationship

Jay Hannahand then after but that one was so bad that then after it ended I was like I would much rather be single than be with a guy who's bad so now I'm just I'm I'm

Lunavery very picky okay all right what about you I am currently single I just went through a breakup in September and I moved back to

LunaCalifornia I ended up leaving um my whole apartment behind and like I lost everything and then I just had to come back mhm um but yeah I moved to Texas for like a year and a half for

Lunathe past year and a half and then I moved back here like in September all right longest relationship 3 years three years who broke up with who um it was kind of mutual he moved home and so it

Lunajust kind well it wasn't really Mutual I didn't show up for Christmas and it kind of ended there uh and then uh was that that was your last relationship or that was a different that wasn't the last one but

Lunathat was my longest one okay and the the last one who broke up with who um he broke up with me good times I have bolar and it causes problems in my relationships but fine um I just I'm

Brian Atlaslike an annoying overthinker you know always thinking something's going on jealous so yeah mhm all right that's everybody's relationship status we're going to get

Brian Atlasinto some uh show notes uh and then we'll do some of the questionnaire stuff I did oh we did have a chat let me let the chats come through uh all right I'm

Brian Atlasgonna can you read Are you able to read that I can't see it no no no I can't see that okay uh I'll read it gamer heart 69 only in a world built by men could a thing like chair one have a position

Brian Atlaslike this with men also definitely a misandrist hope its recovery from election night is going well I think he's trying to determine your pronouns this would be a good time

Brian Atlasfor you to share them octopus I'm just kidding she her she her anybody have got keep him guessing Okay um do you want to respond to that he he accuses you of being a

Brian Atlasmisandrist and got P like a real accurate definition for me well it just be kind of the counter part to Mis misogynist so I'm sure you know what it

Ali Corinis thank you yes it was a joke hard joke as most things were but that's okay clearly that's going over lots of people's sure but you want to would you like to respond or

Brian Atlasdirected to you so no I don't I don't I you want to put it back up there for me sure I can pull it back up make sure I don't like misunderstand again and get myself he says only in a world built by

Brian Atlasmen could a thing like chair one have a position like this with men also definitely misandrist yeah I mean I

Ali CorinI there's lots of opinions okay yeah I think that goes like you know how you were saying like if we had it or he was asking if it

Ali Corinswitched men to women would I only pick men mhm a lot of it comes down to just like men have been very shitty so therefore I not attracted to them like I wasn't it wasn't I'm not going to pull I

Ali Corinwas born this way I hate all men and I've always ha like I don't hate men they're just not for me in my bedroom I like your earrings by the way it's like for some reason that seems this okay this seems like a decidedly different

Andrew Wilsonposition than I'm not attracted to people with male privilege the idea ofaa I understand the idea of I've had traumatic experiences with men and so

Andrew Wilsontherefore I I no longer want the company of men uh this is something which is common place for both sexes um but that's a whole different position than I'm not attracted to men because they're

Ali Corinin a position of privilege that's a that's an entirely different thing all together so when the question was asked like are you pan are you by are you whatever like the the tagline I usually go with is I'm just not attracted to people who are born with male privilege

Ali Corinlike literally as a joke it's not meant to be as literal as it was taken hence the like most of it's just a joke it's supposed to just be lighthearted but anyways like it is turned out to be that I have never been attracted to someone

Ali Corinwith male privilege who was born with male privilege sorry or say something else wrong um but like how I got there was learning that and then discovering like through loads and loads of therapy

Ali Corinlike why I was not attract to men because I had amnesia for a very long time about it so like having both opinions they do like have crossover for me in my own brain but do I respect what you're saying I hear what you're saying

Andrew Wilsonthey are completely different but one led to the discovery of another so just a quick show of hands on the panel uh now that you sat back down I was just curious if you could raise your hand if

Andrew Wilsonyou've had therapy or gone to a psychologist for any issues okay is that the everybody literally as you should curious about

Brian Atlasthat um male therapist any anybody here seen a male therapist yeah both female also female yeah uh anybody here anybody here seen more than three

Brian Atlastherapists anybody here seen more than five therapists anybody here seen more than 10 therapists 20 therapists 15 what how

D Cav (DJ)many have you SE how many have you seen 12 you're keeping track wow well because only because uh I move around a lot so I never really stayed in place and I was

D Cav (DJ)di like di with my diagnosis I have to go in every year and sometimes like um it changes or like they stop working there and I get a new one can you til

Brian Atlasyour mic down just a teeny bit uh what is your uh what's your diagnosis I'm I'm diagnosed as a schizophrenic oh okay yes do you take

Brian Atlasmedication for it I choose not to I anti-ed is it I know there's varying sties is it mild

Andrew Wilsonschizophrenia no not really well very quickly by show of hands uh who on the panel who has seen these psychologists has ever been prescribed any drugs by them for various mental issues wait what

Andrew Wilsondoes that mean has or has never have you been describ prescribed prescribed any drugs not asking if you taken them just that you've been prescribed them yes okay and then currently how many of you

Melenaare actually on a drug prescribed to you by a psychologist I take as needed for panic attacks okay but I I don't have any daily

Andrew Wilsonanymore okay okay all right uh well thank you guys for uh telling us about that so how many of you would lie by a show of hands if you were on a drug that was prescribed to you by a

Andrew Wilsonpsychologist and you just didn't want to admit it how many of you would lie about that I wouldn't lie cuz I'm trying to get back on mine oh I just need to find a new psychiatrist that's a fair answer

Brian Atlasthat's a fair answer all right okay that's uh everything there uh I'm going to get into the pre-show notes uh starting with Rachel here really quick you said as someone who's in a wheelchair I have a lot of crazy dating

Brian Atlasstories from unhinged responses on dating apps to people trying to lift me up on the first date uh you only date women though right yeah and so the the even the women are trying

Riri (Rachel)to lift you up I have had people try and like Lift Me Up fully I'm still uncertain of whether it was a joke or not but either way just kind of weird

Riri (Rachel)yeah okay all right um and do you find was that bothersome for you that they tried to do that or yeah it was just really really awkward

Riri (Rachel)they thought that I needed help getting back into my car which had a chair that would literally go down so I could get into it I'm I'm very self-sufficient I drive I do everything that I need to do

D Cav (DJ)on my own and I think they just assumed that I needed help with it okay which is something that I get frequently people just think I need help with a lot of things that I don't need help with can I ask you a question do they try to like

Riri (Rachel)lift lift you up by like under your arms yeah like like under my armpits oh okay okay okay um yeah it was it was very invasive I

Andrew Wilsonliterally just met them but huh damn uh that just kind of like um AIO but it's not but but not that this isn't malicious right they're just like perhaps being overzealous when it comes

Riri (Rachel)to what they're considering to be kindness yeah I I think that's it um it's just like they didn't ask we hadn't like it was a date where we had not like held hands nothing we had not had any

Riri (Rachel)physical contact I think we both knew we were not going to be going out again after that and so just for them to go in

Brian Atlasfor it was really really awkward what is a uh like if you were to give advice to a man or woman who's like

Brian Atlaswho's able-bodied who's like trying to date you or somebody else in a wheelchair like what advice would you

Brian Atlasgive them like are there any hidden like any uh uh things to be aware of when it comes to dating somebody in a wheelchair that they should conservative of I think

Riri (Rachel)it's just like ask once you kind of establish like a rapport relationship with someone just ask because if you don't ask it gets really weird and if you're assuming that like they can or

Riri (Rachel)can't do something and then the opposite is true it gets really really weird I mean obviously like don't ask invasive questions when you've just met someone but like once you get to a certain point

Riri (Rachel)in a relationship you're going to have to ask like oh can you feel that or not and like it's just it comes up it happens and I think on both sides people just get uncomfortable answering or

Andrew Wilsonasking questions that you kind of just have to get over that God well it's kind of a strange etiquette though right um almost that that you can't really expect people to know in a way so yeah uh it

Andrew Wilsonactually kind of reminds me a few days ago I was at a restaurant with my wife and kids it's just a local cafe here and there was an older guy and he was having trouble getting out of the booth you

Andrew Wilsonknow those types who like they actually struggle to to get out of the booth and he finally looked over at me I was sitting in the booth next to him he's like hey can you give me a hand I said yeah sure so I I got up you know grabbed him pulled him up away he goes you know

Andrew Wilsonwhat I mean but I don't know what the etiquette is you know like what's the etiquette here I have no idea so I'm just like I just I just grabbed his arm pulled him up I didn't you know what I like what do you do I think it's generally like if you see someone

Riri (Rachel)struggling ask before you just like go up and help them like I love struggling going up hills when I have like a 50 lb backpack on and like I'm pushing my 30 lb suitcase because I like to get the

Riri (Rachel)workout in but if you ask and I tell you no like respect that I said no and don't just come up behind me and push there's also nothing to push on so I don't know

Riri (Rachel)people like will touch you and that's also really really weird like a lot of people do have Push handles and I feel like that's more of like an etiquette thing there but you know how like uh sometimes you'll see a person struggling

Andrew Wilsonlike especially this this has happened to me multiple times where I'll see somebody struggling to reach something or something like that just walk over and grab it and pull it down right I app like that yeah sometimes that pisses

Andrew Wilsonpeople off right for for like no particular reason I can ascertain except they're just like upset that they couldn't reach it and you could but but I you know I'm still not exactly sure what the etiquette for that is for

Riri (Rachel)things like that where like there's no way I'm going to be reaching a bag of whatever on the top shelf at a grocery store like I appreciate help like that it's more so things that like it it really has to come down to pushing a lot

Riri (Rachel)or helping someone like lift where it's just appreciated if people ask the worst part is that whenever I say no frequently people get offended that I don't want help and it's like I've been

Andrew Wilsondoing this for years and years and years like I can do it by myself well is it offended that you don't or are they offended that you don't want the help or do you think that they're offended because they were trying to come at it from a place of like um kindness or or

Riri (Rachel)wanting to assist but they just didn't know the etiquette and and they felt like they're being penalized for that I I feel like that could be a part of it for some people um I think overall it's

Riri (Rachel)just like you wouldn't go up to someone in a like normal chair and pick them up out of it or like just start to carry someone and so whenever people like just come up and push me it's like that's

Ali Corinit's basically an extension of my body at this point like it's weird well and also you've said something about like someone coming up and helping and whenever you say no they're like oh my God why would not just let me help you and they're persistent at that point

Ali Corinjust like Let It Go yeah then you're just being weird and that translates over into so many other things for Able Body people too when it comes to uh

Brian Atlasdating um have you either of you well you both date women have you guys ever you know no absolutely not just friends okay have you absolutely not have you

Riri (Rachel)guys ever dated somebody else in a wheelchair no and that's like a preference thing for me and I know people are like oh like you can't like that's ableist but I would not date another disabled person what about you

Ali Corinuh the opportunity has never presented itself but like I have no idea maybe if there was like that perfect person but like wait they would have to be perfect no I just mean like someone that matches me like I'm not going to just date someone because they're a well like

Brian Atlasassuming they did meet like the typical criteria that you would uh require for I guess someone not in wheelchair no it doesn't matter for I just think that there are too many things that like I

Riri (Rachel)know and like can pre tively see coming up in my life where like I'd appreciate having someone who can help me like reach a dish or do things that I necessarily can't do cuz like I'm very

Riri (Rachel)aware of my limitations and so I feel like it'll be more difficult having two people that need the same amount of help cuz then you would need another person to come in in those situations and that's just a lot we have way different

Ali Corinsupport needs too EX stand and Rachel can't especially like when we're home for cooking or something like I can stand and cook most of the time and she cannot so like reaching the back burner is like it goes down to simple

Riri (Rachel)things like that she can't reach the back burner I can't reach the drer to turn it on because it's too far it's just things like that that are stupid that like if two people with my specific support needs were together like it

Brian Atlaswould be stupid to call someone and press a button okay um H rock and roll uh okay

Brian Atlasso and then you said something about uh well you you told us about the whole lifting thing uh getting into the other show notes Here let me just get those going here guys one sec actually let me

Brian Atlascheck no we're all good there um we have notes here from she's up right now uh

Brian AtlasLauren do we have a Lauren oh okay she's the [ __ ] no show or the yeah uh we have Lexi oh that's also the noow okay we

Brian Atlashave me melena did I say right this time yeah you're a certified raiky Master we already went over that raiki

Brian Atlasraiki rake raiki like a rake okay you had a guy from hinge come over to get you dinner but he cfish

Melenayou um tell tell us the story go ahead um it was like two years ago um there was a guy from hint That was supposed to come over to go on a date and he didn't

Melenaeven plan anything so that was already like a red flag um but when he got there he's like where are we going and he completely catfished and looked like way uglier than the picture and so I was

Melenalike um I need to go grocery shopping if you want to come and then I had him carry my groceries up like three flights of stairs and just be the muscle and then came up with an excuse for him to

Brian Atlasleave um but I've also done the same thing with like needing a couch being brought upstairs or F boil yeah you wrote here that you used

Brian Atlasto often match with guys on dating apps just so that they could come over to put together Furniture yeah and then you once had a

Melenahow many times would you say you've done that um it was all around that same time period when I had that condo two years ago but it was probably like three or four

Brian Atlastimes okay and then you said you once had a friends with a friend with benefits carry two massive couches up three flights of stairs yeah love him

Melenaokay he did it on his own yeah he did it on his own couch yeah must have been pretty strong then yeah it fell on him at the top of the stairs did he stay at the top of the

Melenastairs yeah my roommate took a video and thought it was damn bro funny crazy but I had also been seeing him on and off for like 3 years so we were good friends and he thought it was funny but the one

Brian AtlasI'm curious about though you would match with men on dating apps get them to come and would you hook up with them after or no um not that it would not not the grocery yeah but you said you used to

Melenaoften match with guys on dating apps just to put together furniture for you um I think some of them yeah I was I was in a little ho phase back then what do a

Melenalittle what what do you mean by HOAs um not that sex work makes uho but I was doing sex work at the time and I was relapsed when you say doing sex work

Andrew Wilsonwhat do you mean I was working at a strip club and doing only fans and escorting definitely not escorting 100% would make you if h means prostitute then that definitely that's

Melenawhere would make you for sure I wasn't having sex with like the people at the strip club but I I you don't you don't need to right that's that's that's not

Andrew Wilsonthe exchange of prod like if a guy paid to have a prostitute go up to his room uh and then he just like jerked it while he watched her that would still be

Melenaprostitution right I didn't know that but yeah so um no one jerked off in front of me so okay but I I do what you're saying but there

Brian Atlasthere's a differentiation here because like you could be a sex worker doing all that [ __ ] but like not sleeping with people but like H is typically typically when I think about that it's more so

Brian Atlaslike you just having string of CAS casual sexual encounters with men not necessarily being involved in sex work but that's a component of it um were you having a string of casual sexual

Brian Atlasencounters um probably like the same five at the same time yeah mhm so like Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday different time no I think it was

Melenalike different weeks um that was probably like a two-month period I only did um strip been an only

Brian Atlasfans for like two or three months did have you ever um during the hes really quick uh anybody else here at the table had the H show hands anybody else you

Brian Atlasyou you hes hes hes no darkov yeah no oh okay uh

CassieCassie over there friended people that had ho faces you became friends with ho I've been

Cassiewith um [ __ ] boys and um [ __ ] girls that go through whole phases and the [ __ ] boys are the worst the worst they show me pictures of all the girls and what

Cassietheir genitals look like and stuff and they compare like this girl to this other girl they compare genitals well they they like they tell me like I think they just want somebody to talk to

Cassiethat's not going to judge you judged I did you judged yeah yeah but like I'm not going to say that I judged but but um like this one dude in high school we were like kind of friends cuz like I

Cassiethink the best way a man and a woman could be friends is if like one of them thinks the other one is ugly or like not attracted to them in an intellectual way or whatever so like wait wouldn't the best way to be friends is that they both

Cassiethink each other is ugly I feel like that's the best right well I think he's physically attractive oh but I think he's dumb and he doesn't think I'm

Cassiephysically attractive but he thinks I'm smart I don't really think I'm that smart like the yin and yang of yeah so so we're friends and he he looks like a

Cassie[ __ ] boy and his uh his male friends like he said that he doesn't talk to them about that [ __ ] anymore because they're in relationships so now he just

Cassiehas me and he wants me to like text these girls on on his behalf cuz he has so many girls that he's texting and I want to say like I wouldn't do stuff

Cassielike that but sometimes I have nothing to do and we hang out and I will text the girls for him and I feel horrible for that but he has a really nice apartment in Manhattan thank you for

Brian Atlassharing that pertinent information there please um was it a one-bedroom a two- bedroom or a three-bedroom he has a two-bedroom apartment what in Manhattan you said yeah in man he's thank you I

Brian Atlasappreciate the detail he's a finance bro absolutely a necessary part of the conversation now so anyways going back to the H stuff so uh just teasing you

LunaCassie just teasing you okay so um can I throw one thing in about the henis go ahead

Lunasorry I um terrible terrible I don't I don't think we should stereotype sex workers as hoes just so like make that very clear just because if someone is doing I'm I'm a dancer I'm a dancer and

Lunait doesn't mean that I'm sleeping with everybody or we're all doing like you know it doesn't mean you're in a ho face sometimes it's just I I don't want to have the like porn bad cono like so oh I've never done

Andrew Wilsonthat but I mean Andrew would probably say you're a ho just to no well no no it depends on how we're defining the things I consider all sex work prostitution that's true

Andrew Wilsonyeah why do you but if you just mean like ho as in a [ __ ] that's a different category I thought prostitution is getting paid to do sexual acts no it's

Andrew Wilsonan exchange of money for sexual favors of some kind okay so would you consider like a lap dance a sexual favor absolutely okay you're grinding you're grinding you're grinding a part of your

Andrew Wilsonbody on his part of his body for the purpose of sexual gratification exchange for money I don't see how that could be categorized as anything less in prostitution what if you're above them and you don't let them touch you that's

Andrew Wilsonyou're touching them no like you're not touching you're just dancing well even then it's it's for the purpose of sexual gratifications to sexual favor so yeah I would definitely categorize that as form

Brian Atlasof prostitution that's valid uh so okay we were talking about the hes um that was for you uh during

Melenathe HOAs did you ever hook up with two guys in the same day um I had friends are not doing you any favors here I had a threesome with

Brian Atlastwo guys during that a three someone two guys okay yeah I didn't like it but but did you ever have like individual hookup individual hookup

Melenaum not during that phase I think I had a worse ho phase when I was um like 17 18 that was probably the height senior year

Melenaof high school yeah I was I was really deep in addiction so it would kind of happen sorry addicted to what again I don't know if you shared that during before I was 18 I was addict well when I

Melenawas 18 I was addicted to Xanax and blackout Drinker um okay and I stayed sober for 18 months relapse yeah during the time I was relapsed I was stripping and now I've been sober for 20 months

Brian Atlasokay all right well congrats on the sobriety thank you uh I guess the worst hope is like two guys in one day yeah three guys in one day no okay how many

Melenain a week oh man when I was 17 honestly it was like five hear me

Melenaout um when I was 17 I would I know I agree it's horrible I would um sneak out to escape and I didn't even say anything what I say I agree with your face I

Melenathink it's horrible I wish I didn't um you would sneak out I would sneak out and meet up with older guys online to escape like abuse at

Melenahome excuse me when you say older guys um the oldest was 30 when I was 17 and they knew I was 17 that's a yikes I agree yeah that's a

Melenayikes did they know cuz I mean yeah they knew they knew you were 17 cuz you have to be 18 to go on the dating apps yeah I've been banned from Tinder ever since

Brian Atlasbecause I wouldn't lie about it damn any of them catch a case or anything cuz that's technically no sir yikes

Melenadamn uh it all depends on the state anyway do but that was also you like wanting it wanted to or well I didn't want to I think yeah like I chose to be there you know but this was in

Brian AtlasCalifornia right yes yeah that was definitely a crime sorry was I not supposed to say that on here no no I mean it was they I mean you told you disclose them I mean you probably there is I suppose some

Brian Atlasdegree of blame here for you because you shouldn't be going on the dating apps until you're but I mean these men you disclosing that you're 17 like yeah that's that's a major yikes it like Escape home but also to get like alcohol

Brian Atlasat the time different kind of Escape careful careful guys on the those of you who are on the dating app guys you got to be careful make sure get that photo ID get

Andrew Wilsonthat photo ID absolutely girls will lie I was honest but yeah did you ever I'm just just curious about this um did you ever think that you were putting the men

Andrew Wilsonwho you're going to see in a compromising position by the fact that you were underage that that could have a drastic and detrimental impact in the rest of their life I think the way that I Justified it at the time was that I

Andrew Wilsonwas being honest with them about my age so I was like if you're okay with it I am um but I mean I agree with you I think that changes the category if it's

Brian Atlasdisclosed for for sure you know what I mean um but I get you're saying it still does just curious about

Brian Atlasit okay um and then uh you certified raiki yeah can you like demonstrate some raiki on dark cavia over there davia

Brian Atlasdark cavia can I can I call you like a you could you could there are a couple of people possibly who you call me DJ my last name is Jacobs DJ okay sweet I usually there are two people in the room

Brian Atlaswho could use the healing power I heard the I would take it if it would work hold on wait stand up right now raiky raiky the [ __ ]

Andrew Wilsonout of them did you just tell them to stand up no you you stand up you stand you can do you stand up I was like let's go start we want to start

Andrew Wilsonwith the level one chakras and getting the warm up get that third eye opened up wait can can you do it to me hang on hang on can you tell real quick can you tell tell us what color Brian's Aura

Melenaright now's what color is it um I don't know I'm not going to claim to know when I don't do I have usually I meditate beforehand and

Melenathen um I'll see like colors while I'm doing it and so I associate those colors I see colors when I meditate um so I'll like associate that with what chakra

Andrew Wilsonneeds some nice do you know that anybody do you know that anybody can see an aura if they want to it's actually really simple to do it's a trick of the eye it's a trick of the mind I mean she's trying to be you take any object

Andrew Wilsonincluding the one in the room with you right now I can demonstrate it for every woman who's here do it so if you you look at the microphone that's if you look at the microphone that's directly in front of you and you unfocus your

Andrew Wilsoneyes on that microphone unfocus like you're looking through it wait for just a few seconds picture a color and you'll start to see an outline of a type of color perhaps not the one you're

Andrew Wilsonpicturing it takes a couple of seconds takes but you'll see it the more you stare at it you'll see I know what you're talking about I saw like a green fuzzy around Brian what do you mean doing it what the [ __ ] yeah that's crazy

TTS Voiceliar donated $200 I want chair 6 to be my speech if i// Audible Voice completely devoid of emotion and the most dead pan even when

Melenalaughing yeah that's you cheer six that's so funny my mom says the same thing do you want to respond or thank you okay thank you do that I could make

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