ONLY 4 SHOWS LEFT? She USES Men?! FEMCEL? CHARGING For Dates?! Wheelchair Dating! | Dating Talk #218

Date: 2024-12-04

Duration: 8h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

RRiri (Rachel)>

CCassie (DT218)>

MMelena (DT218)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(host)

SPEAKER_02Nikki(guest)

SPEAKER_03Background(audience)

SPEAKER_04Luna(guest)

SPEAKER_05Background(audience)

SPEAKER_06D Cav (DJ)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Jay Hannah(guest)

SPEAKER_09Background(audience)

SPEAKER_10Ali Corin(guest)

SPEAKER_11Riri (Rachel)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Melena(guest)

SPEAKER_14Cassie(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAli Corin introduces herself: wheelchair dancer, 27, from Fresno area, moved to Santa Barbara. Ambulatory wheelchair user — has genetic condition causing daily joint dislocations and a TBI. Has had wheelchair for ~4 years.

“my name is Ali Corin I am 27 and I just moved to Santa Barbara and I am a professional dancer for my wheelchair”

IntroNikki introduces herself: 25, exotic dancer, originally from Cambodia, adopted and raised in Northern California, moved to LA 2 years ago.

“my name is Nikki I'm 25 um I'm originally from Cambodia and I was adopted and brought to Northern California and I moved to LA 2 years ago and I'm an exotic dancer”

IntroRiri introduces herself: 19, pre-law student, wheelchair dancer. Paralyzed at age 8 from botched scoliosis surgery; further paralyzed at 16 from transverse myelitis (mono killed her spinal cord).

“my name is Riri I'm 19 um I'm currently a pre-law student um I also do wheelchair dancing”

IntroCassie introduces herself: 31, mental health advocate, New York, dropped out of psychology. Was diagnosed with ASPD/psychopathy but rediagnosed as Alexithymia. Never had an orgasm. Has underdeveloped amygdala.

“my name is Cassie I'm 31 I'm a mental health Advocate and I live in New York”

IntroD Cav introduces herself: 23, babysitter from Chicago (now LA). Does not have a job beyond babysitting 3x a week.

“my name is D Cav I'm 23 years old and I really don't do anything but I babysit”

IntroMelena introduces herself: 22, personal trainer and Reiki practitioner from LA. NASM certified. Reiki practitioner certified after rehab experience.

“I'm Melena I'm 22 I'm from La mhm um I'm a personal trainer and a raiki practitioner”

IntroJay Hannah introduces herself: 33, Instacart worker, Hollywood CA. Originally from small town North Dakota. Bachelor's in journalism.

“my name is j Hannah I'm 33 years old and I live in Hollywood California Los Angeles... I work for instacart full-time”

IntroLuna introduces herself: 26, exotic dancer and clothing designer, LA. Plans to study pharmacy/become a psychiatrist.

“my name is Luna and I'm 26 years old um currently I am an exotic dancer and I make personal clothing”

Key MomentAli reveals she does not date cisgender men because she is 'not attracted to people born with male privilege.' Brian and Andrew probe the logic at length, eventually Ali clarifies this is tied to childhood trauma (sexual abuse). Generates extended philosophical debate.

“I don't date cisgender men... I'm not attracted to people who are born with male privilege”

QuoteNikki recounts that one of her abusive ex-boyfriends pointed a gun at her face and she had to beg for her life; later another strangled her. She stayed partly because she couldn't leave her pet chinchillas.

“one tried to shoot me like twice... I was crying begging him to stop... the other one just like strangled me”

ControversyMelena recounts that when she was 17 she was sneaking out to meet men from Tinder who knew she was 17. The oldest was 30. Brian notes this was a crime in California. Melena says she was escaping abuse at home and seeking alcohol.

“when I was 17 I would sneak out and meet up with older guys online... the oldest was 30 when I was 17 and they knew I was 17”

ControversyCassie discusses her self-identification as a former 'femcel.' She no longer identifies as one after going on YouTube channels and receiving thousands of emails from interested men. Dispute with Brian and Andrew over whether femcels can truly exist since women can always access sex.

“I used to consider myself a fem cell but I'm no longer a fem cell because I'm around like a lot of guys”

ControversyD Cav admits she is still sleeping with the ex-boyfriend who cheated on her 17 times, solely to keep her body count low. Brian and panel react with shock and humor.

“I'm seeing that X right now... only for sex... I'm not going to up my body count that's literally the only reason why”

IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible, political analyst.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's a popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst”

QuoteJay reveals her worst ex was a SoundCloud rapper with face tattoos who was homeless when she met him, became an alcoholic, wouldn't let her work or go to the gym, criticized her constantly, and she gained 30 lbs during the relationship.

“he was homeless when we met... he wouldn't let me work... I gained 30 lbs when I was in that relationship”

Key MomentAndrew challenges the guests who rated themselves 9-10 to identify their female beauty standard, then pulls up photos showing they bear no resemblance to the women they cited (Zendaya, Elsa Hosk, Beyoncé). Argues that claiming to be a 10 while naming a clearly more attractive woman as the standard is 'slightly narcissistic.'

“if you consider all of these women to be tens and you declared yourself to be an eight nine or ten how could you be... if this woman who you stated was the kind of epitome of perfect Beauty do you look like them — the answer from both tens was yes”

Key MomentBrian argues it is not 'straight' for a cisgender man to date a transgender woman because sex (not gender) defines sexual orientation. Ali and Jay initially disagree, then concede based on Brian's definitional argument. Brian also says the word 'cisgender' offends him; Ali agrees to stop using it around him.

“two males having sex regardless of your gender identity that would be a homosexual act that would be gay it would not be straight”

ControversyBrian gives the 'paternity uncertainty' evolutionary psychology argument for why men prefer low body count women. Ali challenges this as hypocritical since high-body-count men contribute to raising women's body counts. Extended debate with Brian, Ali, and Andrew.

“it's just evolutionary it's just biological... paternity uncertainty... evolutionarily hardwired into men”

QuoteCassie, slightly drunk, reveals she has zero consensual sexual experiences (body count 0) but a BJ count of 7, and that men she's dated have declined to sleep with her because they 'don't want to take advantage of her' due to her autism/Alexithymia.

“consensual zero zero but BJ count seven... a lot of men refuse to have sex with me... they say I don't want to take advantage of you”

OtherAndrew Wilson wraps up his participation and says farewell to the panel around the 6:47 mark.

“very happy to have met all of you my heart out here at 3:00 eastern time... I hope you guys all have a great night”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Setup

Brian opens the show with announcements (streamlabs, Twitch, Discord, WoW guild), then goes around the table for guest introductions: name, age, location, occupation. Guests introduced: Ali Corin (wheelchair dancer), Nikki (Cambodian adoptee/exotic dancer), Riri (pre-law/wheelchair), Cassie (mental health advocate), D Cav (babysitter), Melena (personal trainer/reiki), Jay Hannah (Instacart), Luna (exotic dancer). Andrew Wilson introduced last as co-host.

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares current relationship status, how long single, longest relationship, and who broke up with whom. Highlights: Ali in 2-year polyamorous relationship; Nikki single ~1 year (traumatized by two abusive ex-relationships); Riri single 8 months; Cassie never been in a relationship (femcel discussion); D Cav still sleeping with her cheating ex (camera guy); Melena single 6 months dating a drug addict; Jay single 2.5 years; Luna recently out of a relationship in September 2024.

Ali's Attraction to 'Non-Male-Privilege' People

Extended discussion of Ali Corin's stated reason for not dating cisgender men — 'I'm not attracted to people born with male privilege.' Brian and Andrew probe the logic: does privilege hierarchy matter (e.g., a black man from Compton vs. a billionaire Latina)? Ali clarifies her attraction is also trauma-based (abuse history). Andrew draws parallels to his own philosophical positions on gender pronouns and Orthodox Christianity.

Femcel Discussion

Cassie introduces herself as a former 'femcel' (female involuntarily celibate). Brian, Andrew, and Cassie unpack the term: true involuntary celibacy vs. voluntary celibacy with standards. Brian argues femcels can't truly exist because women can always access sex. Cassie agrees she can no longer identify as a femcel after going viral and receiving thousands of emails from men. Cassie advocates for femcels in Discord communities she participates in.

Pre-Show Notes & Stories

Brian goes through each guest's submitted pre-show notes: Riri's unhinged wheelchair dating app stories; Melena's catfish furniture-assembly scheme; Nikki's two abusive exes (gun incident, strangulation); D Cav's cheating camera-guy ex; Jay's lake cabin Tinder story, $200/day rich man, porn star hookup; Ali's all-queer honey bunny group; Cassie's femcel journey and viral MRI video. Major topics include: ho phases, sex work, toxic relationships.

Wheelchair Dating & Etiquette

Riri and Ali discuss the unique challenges of dating in wheelchairs: uninvited lifting/pushing by dates, dating app responses ranging from fetish to pity, etiquette for able-bodied people, and why Riri chooses not to date another wheelchair user (practical support reasons).

Self-Ratings & Beauty Standards

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Most rate themselves 7-10. Andrew then challenges those who rated themselves 9-10 by asking them to name their female beauty standard (e.g., Zendaya, Victoria's Secret Angels, Beyoncé, Megan Fox) and then showing photos — pointing out they don't actually resemble their stated standards. Discussion about narcissism, whether high self-ratings are narcissistic, and the relationship between attractiveness and dating patterns.

AI Age Progression Photos

Damian displays AI-generated age-progression and age-regression photos of each guest. Guests and Andrew react to how they might look older. D Cav gets 'blue eyes' which confuses everyone. Brian shows a real photo of his ex-girlfriend (Japanese woman) bowing when he returned home late from a podcast, sparking a discussion about traditional female behavior.

Questionnaire Round

Brian reads from a prepared questionnaire: bear vs. man in the forest; height requirements; minimum income requirements; sugar daddies and pay pigs; witchcraft and manifestation; narcissist dating; the gender wage gap; WNBA pay; women's career attractiveness; body count discussion (high body count double standard, men preferring low body count women, paternity uncertainty argument); whether marriage is a bad deal for men; whether you can be sexist toward men; trans women and straight men debate; and whether men put in more effort than women.

Trans Women, Straight Men, & Language Debate

Brian asks panelists whether it's straight for a cisgendered man to date a trans woman. Ali and Jay disagree (say yes, it would be straight). Brian and Andrew argue heterosexual refers to biological sex, not gender identity. Andrew and Brian also discuss Brian finding the term 'cisgender' offensive; Ali eventually agrees to stop using it around Brian if he finds it offensive.

Body Count & Double Standards Debate

Extended back-and-forth between Ali, Brian, and Andrew on whether it's hypocritical for high-body-count men to prefer low-body-count women. Brian argues evolutionary psychology (paternity uncertainty) justifies men's preference. Ali counters that men contribute to high female body counts and that the same logic should apply to women's standards for men. Andrew dissects the definition of hypocrisy. Guests then reveal their body counts: Nikki ~15 (BJ ~20), Riri ~8, Cassie 0 (BJ 7), D Cav 12, Melena ~10 (lost count), Jay lost count (high).

Andrew Wilson Departure

Andrew wraps up his participation around the 6:47 mark, bidding farewell to the panel. He notes he has no ill will despite contentious exchanges, particularly with Ali. Brian thanks him and directs viewers to The Crucible channel.

Roast Session & Final TTS

Brian lowers TTS price to $20 for a roast session. Chat sends roast messages targeting various guests. Political discussion (who voted for Kamala, who voted for Trump). Brian shows video of his Japanese ex-girlfriend bowing. D Cav reveals she's on Ozempic. Cassie gets drunk (had been drinking since arriving from a flight). Final call to action to stop sex work. Brian wraps up the show.

Transcript

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Ali Corinoccupation go ahead my name is Ali Corin I am 27 and I just moved to Santa Barbara and I am a professional dancer for my wheelchair all right and uh where

Brian Atlaswhere were you from uh prior Tob or like where did you where your grow up grow up I guess in the Central Valley of California so I'm like from the Fresno area okay got it and you do wheelchair

Ali Corindancing mhm do have you ever done any stunts in your wheelchair I mean you would have to define a stunt but yeah I actually am ambulatory so I have the use of my legs I'm very blessed to have that um but it

Ali Corinmeans I push the boundaries of dance in a wheelchair and what that means so we actually have a show this weekend I don't know if I can say what it is but we have a show this weekend happening in Santa Barbara and um strip wheelchair strip show absolutely not oh well I

Ali Corinthought you could maybe that's why you couldn't say it because it it was of an adult nature more like uh children are involved in the show totally opposite we were head have at it um you can create all kinds of scenarios up here I'm sure

Ali Corinbut yeah I've done and you said you do have function of your legs but um so and you what was the term you used ambulatory or what's so what's that ambulatory just means like you have

Ali Corinwalking capacity in some fashion so like 75% of wheelchair users have some capacity to walk gotcha okay and have you been in a wheelchair your entire life or no I've had my wheelchair for

Ali Corinabout four years so 2020 is when I finally was officially able to get a wheelchair they are expensive and to get insurance to cover one is crazy so okay and I think I saw on your Instagram it's

Brian Atlasit's due to a uh is it a genetic disorder or what what is it yeah I have a genetic condition and I also have a TBI so sorry to hear that that's okay uh

Ali Corinyeah what what traumatic brain injury yeah oh okay yeah uh did you get into a fight with somebody else in a wheelchair and they knocked you unfortunately it was not that cool I've been like in all kinds of accidents never got a TBI I've

Ali Corinbeen in a train accident when I was younger a train I was literally in a train accident we hit a strawberry truck it was very minor strawberry truck a strawberry truck of all things and it smells so good and we were tortur you think it would have been like less intense if it was like a blueberry truck

Brian Atlaslike I wonder cuz blueberries are smaller so I feel like you know smaller truck maybe the truck smaller package smaller or the the blueberries would dampen the impact maybe a bit for sure so how much

Ali CorinMobility do you have without the wheelchair so like Mobility is like a relative term so when I'm like I'm capable of standing walking running's

Ali Corinnot going to happen or I look like a baby deer um but if I were to dance out of my wheelchair I would not last more than 10 minutes before dislocating every joint in my body yikes yeah yeah which

Brian Atlasrecently happened it's so fun damn uh okay well uh this train accident I love that that's what you're saying it's like the 1800 like that would be it was the

Ali Corinam [ __ ] amtr and that's caused that's caused mostly and primarily by uh genetic problem the disability yes not the train accident thank goodness we're getting off the train accident I was like in the third grade but anyways yeah

Ali Corinthe genetic condition I have several genetic conditions but like the main one I have causes joint dislocations daily and then I have all kinds of other crap that comes with it so yeah sorry to hear

Nikkithat all good I'm not yeah uh what about you hi U my name is Nikki I'm 25 um I'm originally from Cambodia and I was

Nikkiadopted and brought to Northern California and I moved to LA 2 years ago and I'm an exotic dancer if you know what that means yeah um any school

Ali Corincollege anything going back to you any college at the moment no I was previous uh did you get Associates or I didn't get an associate I think I'll qualify for like the certificate thing for dance

Riri (Rachel)all right what about you um my name is Riri I'm 19 um I'm currently a pre-law student um I also do wheelchair dancing

Andrew Wilsonon the side so it's really fun wait wait your your name is what Riri Riri r i r

Brian Atlase is that your actual birth name absolutely not oh okay all right I like wait okay I was just

Brian Atlascurious uh age sorry I miss I missed that I'm 19 19 all right uh and you are also in a wheelchair I guess uh what's the back story there how long you been in one I've been in a wheelchair for 10

Riri (Rachel)years now I was paralyzed when I was eight from uh failed surgery o what uh what was the surgery or a spinal fusion okay were you did you was it a genetic

Riri (Rachel)thing for the no I had scoliosis so like like a normal people thing U the doctor just like cut wrong yikes and it was a that sucks did he pay out the bastards

Riri (Rachel)pay out or what uh no not really no that sucks he's not practicing anymore so you know that's good sorry to hear that and uh

Brian Atlaswhen just curious you were you said you were 10 I was eight eight okay and were were you like experiencing a lot of uh pain due to the scoliosis or not really it was just bad enough to the

Riri (Rachel)degree where they would want to I don't actually have like the curvy scoliosis like that I curved forward so it's not really like life-threatening or anything but it can cause heart problems so I see and then the doctors made a determination that this would be like

Brian Atlasthe best course of action and then the doctor made an error in the surgery and then uh so that was at eight did you say

Riri (Rachel)eight I was eight um I was rep paralyzed at 16 from transverse myelitis which is a really really long way of saying I got

Andrew Wilsonmono and then it killed my spinal cord damn well I I don't okay maybe you can back up just briefly for me um so 8 years old you have this catastrophic

Riri (Rachel)corrective surgery a mistake happens at that point you are paralyzed from a waist down um I was only completely paralyzed in my feet I had some function

Riri (Rachel)left in my lower legs it was at um an L4 level um that I was paralyzed from that surgery uh so I could walk with like heavy heavy

Andrew Wilsonbracing or like a walker but I I used a wheelchair primarily okay and so then 16 this uh you get mono right and then um you know that's isn't that called the

Riri (Rachel)kissing disease is that anyway so you get mono and uh then that further deteriorates your spinal cord is that yeah I'm not paralyzed at a T10 level which is is a

Riri (Rachel)lot higher it's about like belly button downish uh where was the fusion The L4 L4 was where I was paraly from they didn't actually complete the fusion

Brian Atlasbecause they it medical malpractice but damn yeah that's wild yeah is this I mean so that was like 10 years ago yeah is this um do they still um recommend

Riri (Rachel)spinal Fusions for people who have like your uh like that yeah it's both things that happened to me are like very uncommon do not

Andrew Wilsonhappen um like it's still a lot people get them like every day the and is and there's nothing there's nothing corrective that that they're working on

Riri (Rachel)currently that can fix this or no uh spinal cord injuries have like some weird like holistic treatments that people look at but they don't always

Riri (Rachel)work I maybe some people but yeah nothing yet well

Brian AtlasAI video of me walking you know what's crazy I I had a uh I had a back injury and I went to see an orthopedist and he wanted to do spinal fusion L5 S1 know and I like did some res he was like I

Brian Atlaswent in he just did x- phrase he's like yeah we could do a spinal fusion and like luckily I went to see some other doctors and they're like well like you do have like a structural issue but I mean something like 50% of people who

Brian Atlasget spinal fusions there's no Improvement after a 2-year period and often times they can there can be complications with the surgery make the pain worse some people go in for like

Brian Atlasminor back pain they come out paralyzed so uh sorry to hear about that though that's uh [ __ ] up and anyways um school at all or yeah I'm in school

Brian AtlasI'm a pre-law student pre-law okay and you're at uh local city college or no I'm online currently online okay all right what about you

Cassiehi my name is Cassie I'm 31 I'm a mental health Advocate and I live in New York uh currently all right and uh any uh

Brian Atlasschooling or anything like that um I went to school for psychology all right you got your bachelor's or Ms or anything like that I

D Cav (DJ)dropped out okay Associates or not okay what about you my name is D Cav

Brian AtlasI'm 23 years old and I really don't do anything but I babysit that's pretty much you don't do anything no are you a neat what's that uh it's like it's a

Brian Atlasterm for not in employment education or training yeah no no you're you're a neat no I'm not a neat so okay cuz you I just I just you do babysitting yeah that's it

D Cav (DJ)how often you do babysitting uh like probably like if I'm lucky three times a week three times a week okay yeah all right uh did you go to college at all or

Brian Atlasno okay I didn't you uh Elementary School Dropout or high school high school you dropped out of high school no oh you finished high school okay and then um and you're in La you said you

Brian Atlaslive in LA yeah I live in LA from La mhm no I'm not I'm originally from Chicago Chicago yeah sorry about that um respectfully the shy rack sorry yeah

Brian Atlasyeah Chicago sucks yeah you're close kind of right Andrew very close yeah yeah yeah all right what

Melenaabout you um I'm Melena I'm 22 I'm from La mhm um I'm a personal trainer and a

Melenaraiki practitioner oh raiki what's that what is raiki it's a type of energy work there's really no scientific evidence

Andrew Wilsonbehind it it's kind of more of a spiritual belief about energy work um yeah revolves around the various chakra points on a person and you can use it for the purposes of healing for

Brian Atlascentering for Consciousness all these types of things correct yep you explained it perfectly Andrew's a re Reiki reiky raiki he's a reiky master no way yeah so if you want like a tutorial like he charges he's like really hot

Melenalike high up there on the totem pole though so like he charges like 300 an hour like but it's worth it yeah to school for it for a year and then got certified with the raik Master

Melenacertificate are you a raiki master have you opened your third eye yet um I mean when I meditate I think it's pretty open you know I don't think that I'm

Brian Atlasalways in that state but that's the goal for sure okay all right uh and uh just the

Melenarake like any college or just the raiky um over the summer I just finished at National Academy of sports medicine to get my personal training certificate all right cool what about

Jay Hannahyou uh my name is j Hannah I'm 33 years old and I live in Hollywood California Los Angeles all right what do you do for work I work for instacart full-time I

Jay Hannahbuy groceries for people all right uh and any college I went to college uh back home I went to the University of North Dakota which that's where I grew up I grew up in a very small town in

Brian Atlasmiddle of nowhere okay all right uh did you get your bachelor's degree or yeah I have a bachelor's in a journalism in journalism

Lunaall right very cool what about you um my name is Luna and I'm 26 years old um currently I am an exotic dancer

Brian Atlasand I make personal clothing I have my own like little company you said 23 right 26 oh 26 excuse me sorry and uh what's the nature of the you said you do

Lunaonly fans 2 or no just exotic dancing just the dancing okay any college or anything like that I did go to college for a little bit for psychology but I am

Lunaactually planning on starting Pharmacy so I can uh become not a pharmacist but eventually I want to become a psychiatrist all right cool all right uh Andrew would you like

Andrew Wilsonto introduce yourself yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's a popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst a political sist

Andrew Wilsonand I engage in conversations and various debates and things like this all over the world and I appreciate you girls coming on to the panel tonight and engaging in this conversation with us all right welcome everybody so we're

Brian Atlasgoing to go around the table once more what's your current relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and longest relationship starting with you go ahead I am currently in a

Ali Corin2year long relationship um we are polyamorous but but not practicing polyamory right now and my longest relationship was 9 years

Brian Atlaslongest relationship 9 years uh from what age to what age was the 9-year relationship oh goodness I was 17 when we started dating we were high school

Brian Atlassweethearts and then oh gosh that would have put me at 25 25 MH uh so you pretty much got right

Brian Atlasinto this current relationship immediately then yeah it it was after the breakup yeah there was crossover oh can I I have a couple questions can I

Brian Atlasjust have you scoot your mic this way a little bit uh so a crossover not cheating no not cheating okay soly I'm assuming the N nine-year relationship

Ali Corinwas polyamorous no actually it was not it was monogamous it was monogamous okay but there was when you say there was crossover can you explain yeah uh the 9-year relationship was on and off I

Ali Corindon't feel like that's always necessary for the story but for this I guess it is but I met my current partner during a

Ali Corinbreak which I thought it was going to be the last M of it and um her and I reconnected and we tried a last harah if

Ali Corinyou will and then yeah it just didn't end up working out she was kind of on the fence if you will about polyamory and decided that it just wasn't for her it was very respectful and I wish her

Brian Atlasthe best and your orientation you're bisexual correct yes pen sure I what you prefer

Ali Corinwhat do you prefer anything I just I I don't I don't date siset men huh your nine-year relationship was with who yeah I the name but like was it with a woman

Ali Corinit was with a woman a woman and the current relationship is with a woman correct we're just not going to talk about that one it's been asked that I don't mention about my current relationship oh I mean out of respect I

Ali Corindon't need details but it's is it a woman I'm assuming it's a woman I think you said it was a woman sure it trans transwoman you're not picking up what I'm putting down so anyways I'm just not

Brian Atlasgoing to talk about my current I'm not sorry I'm a man I'm a siset man and I use words that's okay I don't read subtext my there's just like a out of the respect of my partner I'm not going

Brian Atlasto discuss they're correct gender gender yeah sex correct okay indeed well I appreciate you respecting the way of your partner uh why don't you date sis

Brian Atlashead men uh because I'm not attracted to people who are born with male privilege that is an interesting one you're not attracted to people who are born I thought you were going to say

Brian Atlaspenis but uh you're not attracted to men who are born with male privilege correct yeah what when you say I have a couple questions here when you say they were born with male privilege wouldn't this

Ali Corininclude transgender women typically yes I've I've never met a transgender woman that I was personally attracted to could it happen I'm sure but like it just has not happened for me but you said you would dated somebody who's

Brian Atlastrans yeah I mean it would have to be the miracle unicorn of all trans women but you would have to preclude them because they were born with male privilege yeah grally I'm not attracted to trans women due to the being born

Ali Corinwith male privilege thing despite it's a mindset despite their current lack of male privilege being transgender a transgender woman mhm I respect them and I'm friends with transgender women I

Brian Atlasjust don't think that is for me in a relationship uh curious why what is it about male privilege that wants in terms of physical or sexual or romantic

Ali Corinattraction that would preclude you from dating somebody who was born with male privilege people who are born without male privilege actually understand what it's like to live life

Andrew Wilsonas a woman whether they are a woman or not so see that makes sense Brian um for instance I'm not attracted to people who have parking lot privileges I mean I have a handicap placard so I guess we wouldn't get along I guess not I don't

Andrew Wilsonlike people have parking lot privileges I think that that's gross and I'm just not attractive to it it's that's all for you man yeah uh that's interesting so

Brian Atlasum can you elaborate a bit more I guess on not being attracted to male privilege yeah yeah you in the M you were in the middle of explaining it so I was more Curious it just comes down to like how I

Ali Corinexplain my sexuality that's like the easiest wittiest nod that I give to like why or what my label is I guess is there any

Brian Atlasintersection when it comes to like do you do you give uh I suppose like let's say there's an intersection of like they're uh like they're black they're

Brian Atlasblack male so they do they were born with male privilege but there's an intersection whereby they do um you're saying because they have another minority basis so therefore am I ATT

Ali Corinthey have like there's a there's a vertical of like societal disadvantage so like in my personal history I have primarily been around Hispanic Asian of sorts and white people

Ali CorinI can't answer on I didn't say I've never met that much so that's primarily what I was like surrounded by when I was like actively dating or looking okay um I don't think that it's going to change anything for

Ali Corinme personally but I also don't think that like the world needs me in the fish sea you know what I'm saying like there's plenty of fish in the sea people say that all the time I don't need to be an option for now is is the ultimate thing here the privilege component though like somebody who's born with

Ali Corinlike and it just comes down to like how people behave whenever they were born into male privilege when you're raised a certain way sure does that have to do with privilege have you dated white women

Brian Atlasbefore no you've never you've never dated a white woman no Asian woman no why does that why is relevant

Brian Atlaswell my follow-up question will make it abundantly clear why it's relevant but uh so you you have dated women yes okay uh Asian woman should I

Ali Corinshould I because I said that that's what I was surrounded by I'm just asking you a question it's not a big deal black woman or Latina woman or what are we talking here uh primarily Latina just because that's like what was in my head and I just just to be clear I'd like to

Brian Atlasjust make an establishment on the hierarchy of like where you like see privilege so your position is is that Latina women have less privilege than black men no I never said that I mean

Brian Atlasyou said you disqualify people on the basis of their privilege but if you would not date a black man I'm assuming your position would be that black men have more privilege than Latino women no

Brian AtlasI think that's just you twisting it because you I'm not twisting anything you said you said I don't date people with male privilege when they are born right but then what does that have to do with the color of their skin though right but we were like kind of looking

Brian Atlasit wasn't oh just male privilege so male privilege is like an across theboard exclusionary thing that's like the easiest way to categorize who I am not attracted to is people who are born with

Ali Corinmale privilege so yeah but like do they if they transition do they adopt male privilege no when you're born into a f female body you have to live without male privilege when you adopt like

Ali Corinthat's not what I'm referring to of what I'm not attracted to like yes you gain male privileges especially if you decide to transition and your passing and all of those things but I do think that you

Brian Atlashave a innate understanding for what it's like to not have it okay uh and is it specifically male privilege or is it the

Brian Atlasprivilege no male privilege only male privilege so even if we were do to do some comparison between like a given male and a given female let's say that

Brian Atlasfemale has more privilege in like some verticals compared to the male like would you date a woman who's more privileged than a given man sure I think it's like if you're born into a certain

Ali Corinkind of privilege regardless of what it is depending on how much that shapes you and like the basis of your understanding of the world if you behave like an overly privileged individual I'm probably not going to be attracted yeah

Brian Atlasso let's I would like to explore that so like you're saying essentially uh it's specific to the maleness of the privilege for example like you would not consider like a Latina woman who's like her parents

Brian Atlaswere billionaires and she's totally able-bodied and she has no like pH physical limitations you would consider her to be less privileged than like uh like a black minority male born in like

Ali CorinCompton to like impoverished parents I don't think that that is you can't equate those two like I I would have to be in that personal experience which one's more privileged in totality

Ali CorinI don't think you gave me enough information to decide who's more privileged specifically because you're giving me like these little notes of what they are and who they are and right so just to be

Brian Atlascleared Woman versus the black person okay let me let me I'll give you hold on I'll give you the two criteria I'll give you the two criteria again who's more privileged Latina woman born to billionaire parents who's able-bodied

Ali Corinyes that is the answer it is the obvious answer versus black man born in uh impoverished Compton I completely get what you are coming at I I

Brian Atlasunderstand so who has more privilege she does okay overall so then would you be willing to date the black male who has less privilege than M

Andrew Wilsonno okay I think I understand your position I understand your position it's just interesting I haven't heard it before so cuz that's cuz that's still male privilege right even if he were like Le he was less privileged than the

Andrew Wilsonother guy he would still have been born into a privileged position just based on societal standings yeah so if you were in a culture then which was matriarchal would you only date men

Andrew Wilsonexclusively what the [ __ ] don't read that go ahead you can answer the question go ahead would I only date yeah if you were born into a matriarchal

Andrew Wilsonsociety where women were the privileged ones they were the ones who basically you know they had um a monopoly on force and all these different things if that were the case then would you only

Ali Corinexclusively men I don't think that I'm the right person to answer that only because like my reason for not being attracted to male privilege comes down to like abuse what do you mean from my

Ali Corinpast oh okay yeah no well I understand that so like in a hypothetical scenario let's say your situation is we end up the same exact way we are right now it's just that male and female are switched sure like that feels like a strange

Andrew Wilsonhypothetical but I guess it it has nothing to do with appendages if that's what you're asking me so wait so the the idea of what

Andrew Wilsonyou're attracted to um comes down you think to trauma not by uh not by any any sort of other external factor I mean

Ali CorinI I have no idea what would have happened if I didn't go through the trauma that I went through because I was so young so it's hard to say how it is for me personally I don't think that trauma is the only reason why people are

Ali Corinnot attracted to males however for me I don't think I would ever be able to date someone who was born that way because of my trauma if that makes sense like I don't think that that's true for a lot of people but

Andrew Wilsonfor me personally it's like a big stop up mentally well that seems different different than the privilege thing but yeah and what so so then I guess my final wrap up on this because we got

Andrew Wilsonstuck on it right away right even just in the intros um but but just to kind of finish the exploration here so you wouldn't Advocate this as being prescriptive for other women that hey you shouldn't date men based along the

TTS Voicelines that they're privileged or no not at all okay all right I'm going to let just two chats come through and then we'll get back to the relationship status Ole donated

TTS Voice$200 does chair one have EDS if so this is the second person with A's Dan loss syndrome that's been on the show in as

Brian Atlasmany weeks yeah we had someone with EDS uh like a week ago you have EDS I did yeah uh Metro Matt thank you so much for that was Metro or no that was ogul I apologize that's metrom mats about to

TTS Voicecome in ogul thank you so much for the TTS man appreciate it uh there's some roast coming through I'll let this through then we'll continue on Metro M donated $200 Brian it is nice to see you

TTS Voicesupporting make a wish with tonight's panel chair five hit my line Andrew can't wait to see the roast of the partner lady out Discord fam hey you know make a wish did actually reach out

Brian Atlasand I'm glad that we were able to coordinate to get you two on so uh yeah thank you guys it was it wasn't my wish what's going what the hell well Andrew you're not where's all this privilege where's all this

Brian Atlasprivilege uh you know actually funny story I don't think I've ever sh shared this I had an illness when I was a child

Brian Atlasand uh I got to it it wasn't make a wish but I did go my I'm going to get this is going to be like get mem in the chat and for The

Brian AtlasCrucible I did go to Neverland Ranch have anything to do whoa what wait what I got to go to Neverland Ranch back in the day yeah I've never shared I don't think I've shared that I went to

Brian AtlasNeverland Ranch Brian is this did you have burritos for lunch Brian uh no but there's like a bunch of free candy and stuff and uh but uh yeah no I I don't think I was really into Mexican food

Andrew Wilsonwhen I was like 10 or whatever was it was it bedtime when the big hand touched the little Brian and Ranch um no you know what I did I did

Brian Atlasget to meet Michael and he was super cool he was honestly bro I don't believe that [ __ ] Andrew I don't believe

Brian Atlasit I I think it's all [ __ ] bro I'm 70% sure though I'm leaving a little room for like he did that

Brian Atlas[ __ ] but yeah I did get to meet Michael Jackson oh we can't hear you Andrew I said well I was just saying um

Brian Atlasnice Yeah man so I kind of got like half half a make a wish yeah so that was

Brian Atlascool you might might have might just kept that one to yourself maybe I don't bro it's not bro I don't care he did something nice for me man like I got

Brian Atlasto there was like the the animals the petting zoo we got to see there was a theater it was a there was like a roller coaster a shitty roller coaster it's very nice it very uh above the board

Andrew Wilsonwhere are you being for real like 100% what why what what is is it an island no

Andrew Wilsonyes it's an island yeah no was his house his house was on Jackson Island this was this is off the of Mississippi Jackson Island it's not

Brian Atlasfar it's like just it's like an hour it's an hour north okay anyways uh relationship or really quick fin finalizing on your relationship uh the 9-year relationship who finally broke up

Ali Corinwith who um it was Mutual is but she decided that she didn't want to be in a polyam relationship so she Mutual is okay gotcha and uh all right uh what

Nikkiabout you um I'm single and my longest relationship is to 2 years because my exes are crazy so if it was up to me and they weren't crazy I would have Way Long relationships how how long you been

Nikkisingle for like I don't know maybe like a year or more like nothing really serious since those last two crazy relationships like I'm really traumatized last two

Nikkirelationships yeah it was two two twoyear relationships both of them I had to leave them like Escape Escape yeah like I had to come up with an escape plan and my work helped me and my ex's sister helped me come up with

Brian Atlasdid you meet them at the club no this is before I was working as a dancer I met this guy at Petco Petco I used to work at Petco I see okay uh and you've had two toxic relationships or more than I

Nikkimean two like really bad ones and then like you've had toxic situationships also yeah but now I kind of learned to stay I know how to stay away from those

Nikkiafter being in the ab what's the like common theme though with um maybe uh well mental illness obviously like like there the guys that I was with were very mentally unstable and I think you know I

Nikkiam too so maybe that's why they're attracted to me or maybe I'm attracted to them but yeah what's uh what's your diagnosis U I have uh well I was diagnosed with depression and anxiety I

Nikkiprobably have ADHD really bad um any like uh and I could be like yeah I could be like I what do you mean could be cuz I never I haven't gotten diagnosed for

Brian Atlasthat but I definitely get very like Moody I get very angry okay yeah good times Good Times uh and but you've been single for one year you said any anything in that past year situationship

Nikkiyeah there was a situationship with this guy and he he reminded me of my other ex's cuz he would hit his dog he was abusive and I was just couldn't be

Nikkiaround that so I left him and IES his dog that's okay and uh are there any guys in the picture right now um I'm talking to multiple guys because I can't

Nikkiyou got the roster yeah well I mean not like cuz I don't know I kind of get got to keep my options open because anytime I tried I tried getting with this guy and he literally like blocked me like

Nikkifor no reason out of nowhere and I don't understand why and then he came back and [Music] then and then he blocked me again so I'm just like I just feel like I shouldn't

Nikkieven try yeah have you ever slashed a guy's tire tire plural I guess this this girl um with this guy that I was talking to I [ __ ] up her car I didn't do it I had the homies do it but they did it so

Nikkiwell then I mean that's you doing it right yeah yeah yeah it was me ening yeah the homies did it who what is the homies it's a few of my my guy friends I'm not going to say who but my few of my guy friends are you in a street gang

Nikkino I'm not but I know people who are were they were they in a street gang um I have some connects but I'm not going who do you affiliate with I'm I'm not going to I don't affiliate with anyone

Andrew Wilsonlike I'm just you know I'm just in my own is it the more CP more blood no I'm not trying to get either Sero like which way we go here I'm not with any like I just kind of you know people just help

Nikkime when I need Rascal I don't know who that is okay I don't know uh anyways um they just get the job done you know what I mean so

Nikkiokay yeah uh and so you said you have a roster currently uh how many guys are on the roster um pretty much one because everyone else is in exactly that's why cuz the one guy

Nikkiwho I was trying to talk to like he ended up blocking me so it's like he wasn't so it's like not really like I'm just talking to multiple guys but I'm only having sex with one guy but I'm talking to multiple guys are you going on dates with the other guys um I

Nikkiwent on one date with a guy but I haven't been on since and I'm just don't even I just don't even really want to do all that you know unless somebody's really serious I don't really how long the guy who you are having sex with how

Nikkilong have you been seeing him a year oh but you've been single for a year so it's basically like a situationship because we're not l laed or anything we're not together like we literally just [ __ ] each other do you want to

Nikkilabel I mean I did I did in the beginning but after seeing how he's been throughout the whole year like he's very secretive which I don't like so he's also a dad so you know I get it it's

Nikkihard to be with somebody like that do you have a type of guy yeah I like OB I like older guys you know it doesn't matter what their ethnicity is I just like older guys older guys like J like

Brian AtlasSocial Security like collecting no no not that old Social Security no is were 40 oh okay 40 okay that's like the oldest I don't know you should like I feel like even like if you're toxic once

Brian Atlasyou probably get into your 60s or 70s like you can't like can you even be toxic at that you know what I mean I mean I guess like I feel like you don't have energy to I hope they wouldn't have energy yeah like

Brian Atlasyou're you can still be toxic but I feel like it's the volume knobs just been turned down not that I've dated like 70-year-old like Gils or whatever but but I could be more toxic okay yeah all

Riri (Rachel)right uh what about you relationship status I'm single um I've been single for like eight months there was like a situationship mhm uh my longest

Brian Atlasrelationship was six or seven months wait oh okay 7 months was that the one that ended 8 months ago no that

Brian Atlaswas that ended about a year and a half ago okay uh the who broke up with who in that relationship uh she broke up with with me okay and then most recently the8

Riri (Rachel)months ago who broke up with who uh there wasn't really like a breakup I kind of just ghosted them because it was getting too serious okay wait you ghosted them

Brian Atlasbecause it was getting too serious yes how long are you seeing them like 3 months okay and you don't you don't want Serius right now absolutely not no okay

Riri (Rachel)and orientation you're bisexual or I'm a lesbian I'm sure there's like a guy out there that I would be with but I just don't want to open myself up to that not in like a male privilege just I yeah I

Brian Atlasdon't fair enough like Brad pit would you smash or no Johnny de no wait hold on uh who's like a younger I don't know

Brian Atlaswhat's what's that guy from Dune what's his name not Timothy sham no no not Timothy sham no nobody likes him uh Ryan Gosling she's getting like a little

Brian Atlaswarmer okay uh Troy verer wait what's his [ __ ] name know that is minim me from Austin Powers rest in peace like back in

Riri (Rachel)the day like if he was still kicking you know he might be too young Troy is that his name Troy verer like Leonardo DiCaprio without like all the weird things about

Brian Atlashim like young Leo or currently Leo young young y like Titanic yes Leo yes okay okay what about like uh Gilbert

Brian AtlasGrape Leo I feel like have you seen that movie yeah like so he's like not just like not like Leo's character in what's Eden gil

Riri (Rachel)Gilbert great like he was um he had our word he was our worded I feel like that would just be wrong I know you wouldn't date somebody

Riri (Rachel)who's should I just say it mhm [ __ ] I know I said I get the pass because I'm I feel like at the cognitive level he was at it probably

Brian Atlaswouldn't have been like respectful for me to do that that might actually be yeah I feel like that would be wrong but you want okay like Leo Titanic yeah okay I just have unrealistic

Brian Atlasexpectations for men I think but without the like he only dates women below 25 yeah yeah you think that's like kind of weird for him to be doing that extremely

Brian Atlasweird he's like old now right he's he's almost 50 yo Chad how old's Leo too old Leonardo age 50 he he just turned 50

Brian AtlasNovember 11th that's like objectively much too old for me okay and then lady uh the panels panelists uh what really quick on the Leo thing what do you guys

Brian Atlasthink so he basically he hasn't dated a woman over 25 essentially he tends to date women like in their early 20s and he like conveniently you know maybe the

Brian AtlasRel it's just um Circumstance the relationships and typically before or maximum at 25 I think it's okay I think he should call

Brian Atlasme all right I'll let Cassie Leo slides into the DMS you going to smash or what no he's not my type Leo is not your Tye

Brian Atlasokay we'll get into that in a bit but um so okay in anyways uh you date women uh but if a leard young Leo without the age Gap stuff you're well in the

Riri (Rachel)hypothetical situation that he like called me up now I wouldn't say no but it would still be weird you would like go on a date with him 100% he's like

Cassieyou'd want to talk just like CU for the you know okay cool cool um for the best and then uh Cassie what about you um I'm

Cassiesingle and I've never been in a relationship um I tried in my mid 20s um after my diagnosis um now I know it's a misdiagnosis but

Cassiethat kind of like uh scared guys away my mental health scared guys away what what was the diagnosis um when I was 5150 during that

Cassietime I had an MRI done and they found that I had an underdeveloped amigdala and they diagnosed me with aspd which is technically psychopathy even though I

Cassiedon't fit the diagnostic criteria for psychopathy so in my 20s I was diagnosed when I was 25 I think 2018 and when I

Cassiewas trying to date I like disclosed to them my mental health and they wouldn't even want to anything to do with me and

CassieI tried Tinder and all that stuff how does uh so this diagnosis the uh I have Alexia um what what's that um so I recently got um uh I I'm seeing a

Cassietherapist and a psychiatrist now and they said that um I have a condition called Alexia not asbd I don't fit the diagnostic

Cassiecriteria and uh how does this uh I guess manifest itself in terms of um so uh I have an underdeveloped

Cassieamydala like I don't know if I could say this word um but like I'm 31 I've never had an orgasm um and I can't really like feel positive emotions because of my

Brian Atlasbrain but you said uh like the psychopathy component like how would that manifest itself like you don't have uh like empathy or what is that what like I'm not saying that's the case

Cassiebut what does it mean I have cognitive empathy I'm I'm actually overtly empathetic especially with the work that I do cuz I do homeless Outreach in New York um but like for example my

Cassieco-workers like at the end of the day they drink a lot to deal with what they do and like they are like why doesn't she want to go into a shelter and like I'm able to like you know uh do more as

Brian Atlasfar as like my my job because it doesn't really affect me as much as it affects my co-workers okay um so there's you said there's aspd you said also autism

Cassieis that correct yes um so this year I saw very good um sorry very good psychiatrist and she diagnosed me with Alexia 10% of the

Cassieum population has Alexia but it's mostly men and a lot of women that are diagnosed with aspd actually have Alexia but it presents differently in women

Andrew Wilsonthan it does in men okay and would this be a good classification for Alexia it's also referred to as emotional blindness it's a neuros pychological phenomenon characterized by significant challenges

Cassiein recognizing expressing sourcing and describing one's emotions yes yes I don't know my internal emotional state like sometimes I like my sister she'll be like you're

Cassiemad you're angry just admit it and I'm like no I'm not but then like my hand is in a fist and I'm just like you know I don't feel the anger but like uh my body

Cassielike my my palms are sweaty my heart is racing out of my chest so like feelings present physically for me not emotionally and I I tried I got close to

Cassiedating someone um but he fell he fell in love with me and um he wanted to know if I loved him cuz he's Christian and um

CassieI'm somewhat Christian and he wanted to engage in qutis like with someone that loved him and I told him that I will you know treat him lovingly and I will

Cassierespect him and I will do whatever he wants but like I don't even love myself like I don't know what love is and um so

Andrew Wilsonhe decided not to have sex with me are you um are you also aware as I'm I'm kind of digging into this um there's no scientific consensus on the

Andrew Wilsonclassifications of Personality trait because because Lexia is so common in the populace that they don't even know how to classify it or if they it can even be actually classified as a mental

Andrew Wilsonillness because there's just many people who uh have trouble associating emotions when it comes to uh other people are you aware of that at all yeah yeah it's 10

Cassieso there's normative male Alexia and then um there's just Alexia um most men are alexic to some

Cassiedegree but um like and so are most most women to some degree yeah yeah yeah so um it just like it makes doing the job that I do easier like I've uh cuz like I

Andrew Wilsonget so is this the equivalent of diagnosing somebody with being able to breathe right it's like most people can breathe right yeah so is that is I mean is that really a classification for a

Cassiemental disorder doesn't seem like it is necessarily I don't like to think of myself as disordered I I don't like to think of myself as uh disabled by this

Brian Atlasso I I try to do the best with what I got gotcha okay uh I guess a couple questions here when it comes to the diagnosis that you do have does this ever manifest itself in like outward

Brian Atlasviolence physical violence uh when I was a child but yeah I was going to ask if it was like childhood were there were there uh didn't mean to cut you off if you want

Brian Atlasto continue her what were you going to say uh well so there was a like U um when you in elementary school were there violent physically

Cassieviolent um uh incidences or yeah so when I was in I went to um I went to like a specialized school that you had to take

Cassiea test to get into um so uh there was uh I got bullied and then like I would

Cassiebasically like get my you know Revenge but like I wouldn't bully them back but I don't do things like that anymore

Brian Atlasthough because yeah and I mean are when it comes because you say like the uh you disclose to potential like men that you would date that you you have these

Brian Atlasdisorders or whatever or sorry not disorders uh that you have aspd or psychopath it you you no no it's Alexia oh ex sorry sorry my mistake then I was misdiagnosed ASD like how if you were in

Cassiea relationship like what how would it negatively impact the relationship if you can be brief um well for him he it it didn't negatively impact him at all

Cassiebut he could tell like after a while that I was I was masking like I was kind of like pretending and um then it started to affect him when he realized

Cassiethat I was just being a people pleaser I wasn't really being genuine but that wasn't because I didn't want to be genuine it was because I was trying to be normal yeah so um

Cassiewhen it comes to relationship history you've never had a boyfriend um so you and you consider yourself what um I I used to consider myself a fem cell but I'm no longer a

Cassiefem cell because I'm around like a lot of guys and uh some of them are interested in me it's just they I don't want to be with someone

Brian Atlasthat's more attractive than me oh wait so hold on so you're no longer a fem cell I can't identify as a femel because I have wait but just like a week ago you

Brian Atlasidentified as a yeah this guy this guy tried to have sex with you yeah oh okay why yeah what is a femo uh well I mean I guess there's different

Andrew Wilsondefinitions uh do you know you know what a u in wait there's a very easy uh way to describe this phenomenon have you ever heard of a unicorn yeah have you ever heard a

Melenaunicorn yeah I don't really know what that means either though honestly most women are arily celibate is that just gay no a unicorn no an actual unicorn

Melenayou know yeah I thought this was like another weird [ __ ] yeah no I mean I mean an actual unicorn people are using all these words yes yes well and you know how they're like mythological and

Cassiedon't exist yeah that's a fem cell yeah the majority of women that identifies as fem cells um are women that can't get access to a relationship and they tie a

Brian Atlasrelationship to sex um well let me just jump in really quick so okay just to break it down here okay so incel it's a uh there's a specific term for when you

Brian Atlascombine words like this what's the term an amalgamation a compound word no not neither I don't know there's a specific term for it I'm jet LED anybody

Brian Atlaseveryone's failing the pop quiz tonight I don't know what is it oh by the way really quick announcement guys um there is a goal for super chats if we get 501

Brian Atlas$10 plus super chats one of uh one of the girls has to read a full page of a Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets um so

Brian Atlaswhoever's like yep so uh yeah and then next week I'll have uh green eggs and ham and then cat and the hat too so guys get hit the hit the goal so we can have

Brian Atlasa girl read a full page of the Harry Potter book okay so uh okay let's see here um oh okay so

Brian Atlasin incell is short for involuntarily celibate got it yeah so basically a guy like despite his desire to have sex like and despite efforts reasonable efforts

Brian Atlasto get sex he just like he can't do it either he's really uh he's either phys really physically unattractive or maybe it's his personality or his circumstances like he tries tries tries

Brian Atlaslike cannot get for the life of him a woman to sleep with him um probably some of these guys describe themselves as incels but they don't actually like try in any case just

Brian Atlasthey try to get sex they can't a fem cell a fem cell my understanding of it although the fem cells have different uh

Brian Atlasdefinition is a female involuntary involuntary in oh my God I can't say this involuntarily celibate okay which uh and originally when you reached out

Brian Atlasyou did describe yourself not just as a fem cell but as a female involuntarily celibate yes so after I oh go ahead so

Cassieafter I came out like about my like stuff um came out of the closet about being a neurod diverent person yeah like

CassieI've had like a lot of men uh say that they want to be my boyfriend so I can't I can no longer identify as a fem cell that that is kind of precisely my

Brian Atlasunderstanding of the issue when when it comes to women who claim to be or consider themselves to be may I say something sure um so the women that I

Cassietalk to like they are like really really crying over this um they feel like they can't get access to sex with men that they are attracted to they can get

Cassieaccess to sex with men that they're not attracted to but they can't get access to sex with men that they are attracted to and that's their like if they can't excuse my language if they can't [ __ ] Chad they don't want to [ __ ] anyone at

Cassieall so these are women that like for like years have gone without sex and they feel like it's not a choice because they cannot sleep with a man that they are attracted to they only that would be

Andrew Wilsona v cell that would be voluntarily celibate that would be the opposite voluntarily celibate if you have options yeah you just decide well I don't like any of those options it's like saying that a person doesn't like food because

Cassiehe doesn't like the type of food you give him yeah I've told them that they have options in like um Discord and they will like tell me Shut the [ __ ] up you don't know what you're talking about you don't you're like your belly doesn't

Cassiehang over you're coochie and it's like well like these are women that are yeah these are women that sometimes

Cassiethey are um either big beautiful women or they are not conventionally attractive and I don't identify as

Cassieconventionally attractive either but um I think the majority of them they they internalize the rejection from men that they want and they are they get the ick

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