MEGA BLACK PlLL?! Fake VlRGlN Sarah?! Mormon Girl Tried To Sell Her VlRGlNlTY?! | Dating Talk 281

Date: 2026-02-09

Duration: 9h 27m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAmelia (Phlebotomist)>

JJulia (Dentistry)>

EErica (Childcare)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Erica(guest)

SPEAKER_03Indie(guest)

SPEAKER_05Maddie(guest)

SPEAKER_06Kal Pit(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Meline(guest)

SPEAKER_09Lola Gold(guest)

SPEAKER_10Mahi(guest)

SPEAKER_12Julia(guest)

SPEAKER_13Vicki Sun(guest)

SPEAKER_14Amelia (Phlebotomist)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

Key MomentLola Gold vs Meline: OnlyFans ethics debate

ControversyKal Pit: women should have 3/5 of a vote

ControversyVicki Sun would side with China over USA

QuoteJulia listed virginity for sale at $500K-$1M on Cinderella Escorts

ControversyKal Pit's hot take: re-legalize hitting wives. Near universal condemnation.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

All guests introduce themselves.

OnlyFans/Sex Work Debate

Lola Gold defends OF. Meline/Julia push back.

Women's Voting Rights

Kal Pit: women should have 3/5 of a vote.

China vs USA Allegiance

Vicki Sun sides with China.

Sarah Stock Controversy

Conservative Catholic influencer who faked virginity while cheating.

Julia's Virginity Sale

Listed virginity on Cinderella Escorts for $500K-$1M.

Body Count Reveals

Range from 0 (Julia) to 12 (Lola).

Self-Ratings and Brian Rates

Most rated 5-6.5 by Brian.

Kal Pit's Hot Take

Bring back legalizing hitting your wife. Major controversy.

ICE/Immigration Debate

Mahi defends pro-immigration position.

Transcript

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Ericachanged my answer. I think you're right cuz I dropped things in the toilet. So, >> okay. Uh what what do you think? >> I've never had a problem with it. Like I've never

Maddie>> What does your husband do? >> He puts it down. He after he uses it. So >> what do you think, Brian?

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So there is a compelling argument that for reducing the plume of disgustingness. Even then though, I I really don't think that it's going to have like a huge

Brian Atlasimpact on health one way or the other. But uh but even putting that aside, my position would simply be if you go into the bathroom, you put the

Brian Atlasseat to whatever position you need it to be in for your usage and then you leave it as is. So

Brian Atlasif I go take a piss and I I put the seat up, I'm not putting it back down for the sake of my girlfriend at the house. A little selfish. No, you should just

Vicki Sunget a urinal at that point cuz like at that like men doesn't >> sometimes I just pee outside to be honest. >> That works too. Save water to >> my backyard. >> But why even flush at that point if you're just going to leave it?

Kal Pit>> You can't flush outside the >> No, I mean like what I'm saying is why why even flush in your scenario? Like why not just leave it unflushed the toilet?

Kal Pit>> What? Why even flush? Yeah, cuz you're saying like I'mma leave it as is. >> No, you flush. You flush, but you leave the toilet seat up. >> Yeah, but I'm asking why why not also not flush if you're talking about

Brian Atlasleaving it as is for the next person. >> If it's flushed, wait, what? That doesn't make I don't know where you're going with that. It makes no sense. >> You're saying you do your business, you leave. Why even bother flushing it if you're >> That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous.

Brian AtlasThat's totally different than what we're talking about. It's not at all related, but um No, I I would in all instances flush. Um but

Brian Atlasyou're saying it's selfish. So are you saying women are selfish? >> No. Because I don't >> So when a woman uses the bathroom, does she put the seat up for the man >> after she uses the bathroom? >> Just at least for me, I'm thinking about

Amelia (Phlebotomist)like who's putting the seat down after? Like I don't that's like a whole extra step your girl got to take to get a piece of paper to grab onto it and put it down. Like I if I was a guy, I just wouldn't want to inconvenience her like

Amelia (Phlebotomist)that for that bacteria aspect. So that makes sense, doesn't it? Because if if the the both the lid and the seat

Amelia (Phlebotomist)is up now, I got to touch that piece. >> Why should the man do why should man do this? >> I don't really care. >> I >> Yeah, the >> kind of rude.

Indie>> So it's rude that for women. >> I don't understand for women to what not put it up. But but why? Okay. >> It's the same thing as like if you eat at someone's house >> if you take their dish and you get like

Brian Atlastheir dish dirty like do you just put it in the sink or do you actually clean it? >> It's not really whatsoever. >> Right. Don't you think that's like an equal? >> So your argument would be if a girl's over at my house because it's my house when she uses the bathroom she should

Indieput the seat back up after she uses it for my sake. >> Yeah, sure. I don't know. Well, I don't think it really matter. I think either way that's what I mean. That's like my That's my point. I don't have an expectation. It doesn't really matter to me that much.

Brian Atlas>> I don't have an expectation that the girl uh if she's at my house using my bathroom that she needs to put it to where I want it. Like she can leave she

Brian Atlasleaves the seat down. I go in there. I put it to wherever I need it to be. Who? >> I thought you wanted some pizza. What's up? >> Oh, no. I didn't You're just passing it down. >> You're just passing down. Guys, I got to get pizza. >> Uh I got to get up momentarily. You get

Brian Atlassome here. You have some pizza. I got to get up momentarily. You guys talk amongst yourselves about toilets and bathrooms and seats and uh sleeping in separate bedrooms or whatever you guys want to talk about for like 2 minutes. I

Kal Pitneed to get up momentarily. >> Take it away, women. Be entertaining. >> Well, I feel like you could sleep in different beds without sleeping in different rooms. >> Good girl. Thank you. I think that's >> that's true.

Indie>> No, I think she can >> I feel like I'm correct about it looking neat and tidy and I stand on that. >> Oh, hold up. just kind of I don't know. >> It's polite, but I don't think it really

Indielike I don't know. It's definitely a polite thing to do. It's like a night. Yeah, I appreciate >> But like I'm not going to be mad if it doesn't. >> It's not a deal breaker. >> Or I'm not going to even be annoyed. Like I'm probably not even going to notice. >> I just think the lid should always be closed cuz stuff could could always fall

Ericain the toilet off the counter. >> Good point. >> But like germs like it's a thing. I'm kind of I'm a bit of a germaphobe. >> Me too. Um, when it comes to I don't know like mixing things like your

Ericatoothbrushes. I don't even keep my toothbrush out >> for that reason. I keep it like away from the out of the bathroom actually. But um yeah, I just feel like everyone should completely

Erica>> close the toilet like >> I don't think so. Thank you. >> And I do appreciate when I there have been times I went to the bathroom and this the everything was up and I was like I just want to sit down.

Erica>> Yeah. But it's not hard to put down toilet seat. >> It's really not. >> I don't know. I feel like women have to pee more than men, too.

Kal Pit>> Smaller bladders. >> We have smaller bladders. >> Well, not even. Oh, do we have >> drink water? What are you talking about? >> I drink That's almost all I drink. >> We've been drinking water like all this time.

Erica>> I don't drink water dehydrated. >> I drink more water than most people, but Women don't fart. They don't drink water. >> Yeah, bro. >> I fart. >> And I sweat.

Erica>> And I poop. >> And I don't wear makeup. >> I don't know. I just Brian

Brian AtlasCaucasian. What's up? >> Oh my god. >> Hey, talk guys. Talk. >> Give us a topic on the show. >> Give us a topic. >> Yeah. Give us a random topic.

Erica>> Give us something beefy. Um, using your hands, what is the ideal size? >> Oh my goodness. >> I actually just had this conversation with someone. They're like, "What do you prefer?" I'm like, "Like like six, seven

Ericain." >> Yeah. 6.5 with something more. >> So, I don't use my hand cuz I don't know. But like 6 in is >> beautiful.

JuliaI think six is like this big >> girl. Like four. Five. >> No. on a good day. >> Four would be like this. >> That was longer than your five. >> I can't tell my name. >> Are we talking about hand jobs? I'm

Vicki Sunconfused. He talked about hands. >> No, he's talking about size. >> But then why do you say hands? >> He said show with your hands. >> Oh, show with your hands. >> His length is like six inches, right? It's about 6 in from here. >> They said to take your knuckle and go like one, two.

Kal Pit>> I heard the thumb thing. >> Okay. >> Is there room for you to scoot over just a little bit? It depends on how long your fingers are, too. But

Brian Atlas>> all right, wrapping this up here in just a few more things. Um, >> sorry, boys. Had to have a little pizza back there. Okay. Uh, Maddie. Um, >> which one?

Brian Atlas>> Me. >> You said women shouldn't be drafted. Men shouldn't have a higher body count than women. We talked about the draft a little bit. >> Won't go back there. Um, >> oh, Amelia, you're pro Ice.

Mahi>> Yes. How do the women at the table feel about what >> why are you shaking your head mahi? >> I want to hear why if you could elaborate. >> Well, I think what they're doing right now like they're going way too

Mahioverboard. Like I understand people should come here the legal way. My parents came here the legal way but right now what they're do doing they're deporting people who came here illegally. There's been a lot of mixed

Mahiup. They're taking people who are also like American citizens. They killed two people Renee Good and Alex Py. Like >> Sure. And also, Alex, pretty honestly, like a lot of conservatives and a lot of Trump supporters are also not even

Mahidefending him anymore because a lot of it is he had a firearm and they shot him because they said he had a firearm. But in the video, you can see that they took his firearm away. And then I think JD

MahiVan said that anyone who's going to protest shouldn't carry a firearm. But then you um Republicans and conservatives, their whole thing is like everyone should have the bear like the right to bear arms. And apparently he did have a legal license to carry a gun.

Meline>> But there are there are rules. Like I don't have anything against him having a firearm, but I I know that there are rules for >> So there's literally can't bring it to >> Well, I didn't finish. So when you do have a CCW, there are like you're not

Melinesupposed to approach people like law enforcement. You don't you don't get into an entanglement with law enforcement. Whatever it >> was law enforcement. I don't think he helped a woman and the video he was a woman. Did you see that video that was released

Brian Atlasof there was a conflict between he was on caught on camera I think a few days prior where there was I believe it was an ICE vehicle or some law enforcement

Brian Atlasvehicle where he literally with his foot kicked and smashed the uh the the one of the lights in the back of the car and then he spit on them. >> I didn't see that. >> Exactly.

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> I heard about it. I think if you don't want to be caught in conflict, you shouldn't be there in the first place. But I also don't agree with what ICE is doing. Like essaying women in the shelters. I've heard of that. I, you

Mahiknow, at the baseline I believe what IS >> stance is good, but there's individuals in the system. >> They're taking people away who are legal like citizens. Like people are showing up to their court cases and their legal

Brian Atlasappointments. Yeah. But that's the thing. Like I do agree with ICE, but they're going way too far right So yeah, I mean I think that when you're undergoing a massive national uh

Brian Atlascampaign of this kind that you know humans whether they're police officers, law enforcement, they are definitely going to make mistakes. I'm not going to

Brian Atlaseven really even debate with you that uh there there's a complete like clearly in sort of any endeavor people are going to make mistakes. uh you can argue that, you know, they weren't following certain

Brian Atlasprotocol or procedure in their escalation of force in some of these instances. I would actually tend to lean towards um I think if there is any criminal prosecution brought against the

Brian Atlasuh either individuals or people involved in these two killings, I I think that based off of what I've seen, they have a pretty compelling self-defense thing. Um, I think it's a really

Brian Atlas>> She was trying to say how if you have a license to carry a firearm, you need to do so responsibly. Like it's a really bad idea to like for I in fact I think it might even be I don't know if it's illegal, but for example, I don't think you can go to a bar and get drunk while

Brian Atlasconcealed carrying. I don't think you're supposed to be drinking at all when you >> I think it's a So, there is a video of Alex Pedi or whatever who, like I just said, he had an altercation with ICE a

Brian Atlasfew days prior to the uh unfortunate killing of him uh and he uh he was being really belligerent. So, we do have video of the incident and we don't know what

Brian Atlaswas what totally led up to it. Um, I think it's a really bad idea to get into a scuffle with while there's a federal

Brian Atlasuh uh immigration uh investigation going on to try to while concealed carrying. And by the way, he was what was it? A sig what was the gun? He had like a sig

Brian Atlassour or something or [ __ ] what's the term? What's the gun name? Like a gun that that is known for misfiring or whatever. Um,

Brian Atlasthese these situations are happenings in split seconds. The gun did misfire. I think you you're unfort Look, it's unfortunate that somebody died. Um, I

Brian Atlasdon't think any conservatives are like, "Yes, like these people died. I don't think they're anybody's happy about what happened to Renee Good or but like >> in these situations, these people did

Brian Atlashave some culpability. in what happened, albeit unfortunate. Um, I'm not saying that the ICE agents all acted perfectly. There's steps that they could have potentially taken, especially through nay good, that maybe it could have

Brian Atlasplayed out in different ways. But I think if you're impeding a nice investigation and an a law enforcement officer has given you a lawful order to exit your car, you're under legal

Mahiobligation. You're you're certainly not legally allowed to flee. Do you agree with that? >> Well, Renee, good. I can see like the argument for it, but I feel like Alex Free that one was completely unjustified.

Brian Atlas>> Well, could you un So, I think what happened was a mistake. I think what happened was uh really high tension environment,

Brian Atlasreally high tense, split-second situation going on. A gun does go off, his gun does go off. Uh they the police end up shooting him,

Brian Atlas>> but his gun was taken away. But >> but were the other agents privy? I I don't know all the details, so I'm not fully aware of all the details. >> Were all the police officers involved

Brian Atlasaware and privy that he had been disarmed? I don't know. Is it possent

Brian Atlassituation? you hear a firearm go off that doesn't originate from an officer, they're going to make some assumptions. Ultimately, it's very unfortunate that

Brian Atlaswhat happened, but I I think they're going to have from a legal perspective, they're probably going to have a self-defense uh argument. They just have to prove because if you look at immigration um

Melinecustoms enforcement, their procedures or protocol as it comes to lethal force is you just need to be able to prove that a reasonable person would suspect that someone else's life was in grave danger.

MelineUm and I'm think you could do that. I agree with you. Like the whole thing is is just sad and I think avoidable and deescalation definitely could have been

Melineused and I don't I think most people would agree with that. Um, but I think they might have some defense there as well.

Brian Atlas>> Um, really quick, uh, I think last time you were on the show, my I asked you about Charlie Kirk. Do you think that the the assassination of Charlie Kirk is more objectionable than the these two

Brian Atlaskillings in Minnesota? >> No, they're all as equally sad. uh all is >> I mean like >> equally sad but like do you think that

Brian Atlasthe because the outrage over the the two killings in Minnesota seem to be uh a little I mean the rioting that's

Brian Atlasgoing like for example when Charlie Kirk was killed uh conservatives didn't riot >> yeah but then >> like there wasn't mass riots they weren't burning down buildings and

Mahiproperty >> because the renegot and Alex they got killed by like the like federal Yeah. >> He got killed by an agent of the state. That's >> fair. >> I mean, even Charlie Kirk though, like yeah, I feel like he was wrongly, but he

Brian Atlasgot murdered by an ideology. You can argue he was wrong. He was wrongfully killed and that was really >> completely unjustified what happened to Charlie Kirk. Whereas, can you see can

Brian Atlasyou be charitable in the sense that when you're interfering with law enforcement and you put yourself intentionally in the situation that

Mahi>> you put yourself >> either mistakes can happen or you're you are putting yourself at risk to some degree. >> I mean, I know Rene Renee good like she might like there's different perspectives like there's different body

Brian Atlascam footage. Some people say that she was trying to like hit him or the police officer thought he was trying to hit her. >> Truthfully, I don't even think I don't think she was trying to hit him. But regardless of her intention, she was ordered out of the car by law

Brian Atlasenforcement. That's a lawful legal order. You must comply. If you start to drive away, you're now you're felony

Brian Atlasfleeing uh a justified detainment. Um, and you start directing and you you have at some point there was a police officer

Brian Atlasdirectly in front of her car. There's dispute as to as she was accelerating, was he off to the side, whatever. If you start going in the direction of a police officer, I mean,

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> so this is horrible obviously, but it's like, did she voluntarily enter an active investigation area? Like, yes, >> she was interfering, >> right? So, it's like, is that not voluntarily setting yourself up for

Amelia (Phlebotomist)potential danger? No matter what the circumstances are. You don't know how high alert the agents are. You don't know what they're in the middle of. It's like, yes, rest in peace, but it's like there were steps that you could have

Kal Pittaken to her being harmed. >> I heard Renee Good was in her driveway >> the street. I don't think she was in like >> Well, in the video, the person says, "You just shot my neighbor." >> She was just she was intentionally

Brian Atlasblocking the road to impede uh ICE agents. Well, okay. But let's put these aside. So, I I'm going to agree with you that uh there are definitely instances

Brian Atlasof ICE agents not acting correctly or appropriately, and I I'd like to see the stories, but I'm going to go ahead and grant that. Yeah, they're probably like deporting or detaining people who are legal citizens

Brian Atlasof the United States. I agree with you that that's wrong. Nobody who if you're a citizen, obviously you shouldn't be deported. That's wrong. um if there's some sort of uh restitution that can be paid to them

Mahifor their >> but also that's like why people are like protesting because they're not doing like Yeah. I I think the protest has gone a lot more protesting even before any of the [ __ ] went down in Minnesota.

Mahi>> But they were still because they're still like deported. They were there were been like documentaries and people have started speaking out that they were like detained when they were legal citizens that they had to spend time in these detention centers. thing.

Brian Atlas>> However, do you think that people the the extent of people's outrage as it come relates to ICE is strictly about only the illegal or alleged illegal

Brian Atlasactions of ICE or do people have an objection to the lawful deportation of illegal immigrants? Like >> yeah because there

Brian Atlas>> isn't there a protest at UCSB the other day like uh there's no s such thing as being illegal on stolen land or something. >> And so it's like people clearly have an

Mahiissue with the general lawful mission of ICE. They have a general issue with it which >> because they say they're targeting like drug dealers and like rapists and like some of them are. Yeah. But they're also

Melinetaking families and they're ripping apart families. >> Are they illegal immigrants? They're illegal. Yeah, they are. >> If you live with your parents and you commit a crime and you get taken to jail, are you going to be taken away from your family though? >> But over 70% of the detainees don't even

Kal Pithave criminal convictions. >> Why? But why would that even matter? Why do you >> coming into the country illegally? >> Because didn't Trump say he was going to go after the most violent? >> I think yes, but I mean if >> that's priority, but there's also this

Mahi>> you can prioritize, but you can also focus on like that that doesn't just give you complete free reign. Even if you know, but he's it's not he doesn't seem like he's targeting like any drug dealers or anything. I feel

Mahilike most of the people he's detaining right now and they're deporting are families and people who are like that's the thing like yeah I mean he is >> they they did come here illegally, but still if you're going to like deport people, you should first prioritize the

Brian Atlaspeople who are the drug dealers, the people who said like they're bringing all this bat into the country, but they're not. >> Wouldn't you actually object? So, if if they were deporting, like if they were separating families, wouldn't you object to that more? Like, wouldn't it be better? Like, if I was going to be

Brian Atlasdeported, like let's say I was kicking it in in China for like a year and the Chinese authorities and I got a family there or some [ __ ] and I bring my family and they're also illegal immigrants

Mahior like overstate a visa or whatever. Wouldn't it be better for us for us all to be deported instead of them to leave? Like I I almost would rather >> Aren't they deporting the kids as well? Don't they just put them in separate detention centers?

Brian Atlas>> I don't know about that, but so let's all these little uh examples that you're bringing up, let's even say, you know what, this is really wrong. But do you object to a general deportation of illegal immigrants? >> No.

Mahi>> Okay. Well, >> but they're going about it the completely wrong way. Like they're completely abusing their power. Like that's why there's so many riots and so many protests because everyone can see that. But do you think it's possible to

Brian Atlasundergo nationwide like there's millions upon millions of illegal immigrants in this country? And I'm not look if it was I I wish humans were completely perfect

Brian Atlasand never made mistakes and never made uh any you know never did anything wrong but like in any profession people are going to make mistakes and those

Brian Atlasmistakes ought to be remedied or cured in some sort of way. But like trying to deport millions upon millions of people who don't want to leave the country is

Brian Atlasgoing to involve a certain level of force. It's going to they're not willingly self-epporting. They're not willingly leaving. Many of them are going to fight. They want to stay here.

Brian AtlasSo, how how in a utopian perfect world do you >> It's an overcompensation for the amount of >> illegal immigrants that came in during

Brian Atlasthe Biden administration. Now, it's an overcompensation. It looks over compensation that you're by during the Obama administration, during the Biden administration, it wasn't like they weren't deporting people. I

Meline>> They were deporting people. I know that. >> But the mainstream media was not highlighting it as much as it does when there's a conservative or Republican president because it's >> and they were using pictures during during Trump's presidency the first term.

Meline>> Cages. >> Yeah, the cages. And it was actually taken during like >> it's it's selective outrage and also just >> So are we just going to ignore all the legal immigrants getting deported and >> the legal immigrants? >> No, they've been detained, but I don't

Melinethink they've been >> deported to the place. That's against people. There's a process. We're not >> then why is I showing up to court appointments and taking >> you have to show me cases of it individually and and see process for people as well.

Mahi>> There's many people being taken when they're legal immigrants. They're stuck in these detention centers for months and then they just get released like nothing happened. Like and this is happening. >> I haven't I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I don't know how prevalent it is.

MelineI would need to see see the stats on it. I don't think like we abolish like abolishing ICE is the solution. I don't think this isn't this isn't unique this isn't unique to America either like

Meline>> every country enforces their laws and their borders as it comes to immigration and for whatever reason when we do that in America it's like >> can I ask you a question so let's I guess moving off immigration a little

Brian Atlasbit but still sort of on the topic if some if the police are investigating a murder you do acknowledge that sometime there can be like a mistaken identity and the police might like detain uh the

Brian Atlaswrong person. And so typically what happens if the police detain the wrong person, they're going if that person is able to verify their identity, uh although it is like to some degree an infringement of rights to some degree,

Brian Atlasthe police eventually usually they they might get held for a couple hours and they're like, "Oh, we verified your identity. You're free to leave." Now, that sucks. It shouldn't happen, but in the pursuit of justice, sometimes mistakes happen. I wish they didn't

Brian Atlashappen, but as it relates to immigration, yeah, I I agree with you. Of course, citizens should not be being detained. Uh I think there's some really rare cases where they're allegedly being deported. I don't know what truth,

Mahi>> but there also but there's like the New York Times I saw like um I think there was like an >> biased New York Times, but they are. >> Sorry. Go ahead. >> I mean, how does it matter? They like they showed different types. There was like maybe like five to 10 people and

Mahithey explained how they told them repeatedly that they were legally here and they still wouldn't let them talk to anybody. They were in the detention center. some of them for weeks, some of them to months, and then they just got released like nothing happened.

Mahi>> Like I can Okay, I can agree. Yeah. Like you like it's fine to deport people, whatever, but they're not doing it in a strategic way. Like they're just they made a promise that they wanted to get like >> they wanted to do this fast, but now

Brian Atlasit's just becoming messy and like they should have to >> like re >> like check how they're doing this like the whole program because it's obviously not going well. >> Well, I mean I I don't even think I disagree with you. I would love it for

Brian Atlasoptics reasons if ICE made zero mistakes, but I still think you would have some objections to the the fundamental core mission of ICE even if there were no

Mahimistakes whatsoever. >> No, I mean, okay, I I do empathize with these families, but yeah, they did come here illegally. like they do have to go. But still like my main problem is how

Mahithey're I mean yeah maybe it's a rarely rare they're not really deporting legal citizens but they are detaining a lot of legal citizens or a lot of like pe immigrants who have come here legally and not even listening to their cases

Mahiand there have been like many people speaking out and also these detention centers are even worse than prison and people have said that like multiple times. >> Yeah. I mean, perhaps, but look, ultimately, um, I I guess I would say

Brian Atlasthat I it seems like a bit of a m in Bailey where it's basically like, well, I'm fine with illegal immigration, but actually I'm not fine with illegal, uh, or wait, >> I just know I just empathize like that's it. I feel bad for these families. Yeah,

Mahiit's they did come here illegally, but it's also sad to see a family like being ripped apart. But I my main problem with it and like the reason I like speak up about it is because that they're not doing it the right way. They've killed

Mahitwo people. Even if you agree that they were doing something wrong or not, they two people still died. And then the biggest thing for me is that they're deporting immigrants, but who came here legally. And that's kind of just defeating the whole purpose.

Brian Atlas>> I I think that that while it might happen, I'd have to see it. It's >> But more detaining. They're more They're detaining a lot of people. >> 99.99% of people who are being detained, they're completely legitimate, valid

Brian Atlasdeportations. So, I would totally agree. I totally agree with you though. Uh yeah, if you deport somebody who's a citizen, that's completely wrong and there should be some sort of uh that, you know, maybe

Brian Atlasthey're they should be offered financial compensation for being unlawfully deported. That's totally wrong and it shouldn't happen. But 99.99% of the deportations are completely

Brian Atlasvalid. I'm going to move it on though off of this topic. Uh let's see here. You're a fan of ICE though. Can I I didn't mean to derail the show there. Uh

Brian AtlasJulia, okay, blasting through your notes. Um you said you find a lot of the individual that you bring on are fascinating. You think of yourself as the same. What do you mean how so? Are

Juliayou the same? >> Um could you repeat that? I'm like >> Okay, passing over that. You got slapped on the first date? >> Oh yes. Um there was a date I went on

Juliaand I got slapped on my butt in front of kids. It was >> Oh, on your I thought on the face. >> And I thought that was kind of crazy and not not on the face. No, but it's it was still crazy. Like why would you slap a

Brian Atlaswoman's ass like on a first date like in front of kids? Very inappropriate. That's my crazy dance story. >> That's pretty inappropriate. Um

Brian Atlasuh Okay. You also uh the one the unconsensual situation wait situationship that healed you. >> Yeah. So, I don't like when I I looked

Juliaback on my thing that I sent and I don't really like that I labeled it like that by unconsensual something that's uninvited, right? I just feel like um I have people who have loved me and I

Julianever invited love in and but they these were both healing the two situationships I was in. >> You were in two nonconsensual >> situationship. Well, it's unconsensual.

Brian AtlasYou say when you say non-consensual or unconsensual, are you talking about sex? >> No. >> You were you were in non-consensual. So the relationship itself was

Brian Atlasnon-consensual. So it wasn't you're not even talking about sex. You're saying the man forced you to be your girlfriend. The the girlfriend.

Julia>> No, I'm talking about um um being loved on like like >> being loved on. >> Yes. like being received by by a man.

Brian Atlas>> Are you talking is this sex related? >> No. Emotional.

Julia>> Nonconsensual love. >> Yes. You can unconsensually love someone. I I know that the word unconsensual

Brian Atlasis usually for physical stuff, but >> so if I tell somebody I don't consent that they look at me, have I been

Brian Atlasvision raped or like have I been have I been wronged? >> No. So, if I tell you for the rest of the show, I don't give you consent to look at me for the rest of the show and

Brian Atlasyou look at me, have you wronged me in some sort of way? >> No, I've just unconsensually looked at you. I have not wronged you. I've just unconsensually looked at you. You don't want me to, but I've done it. >> Interesting. Okay. I'm trying to wrap my

Brian Atlashead around the >> I know it's playing looked >> I don't know if Do you This is an interesting topic. Do you

Brian Atlasrequire consent to look at somebody? >> Do I >> like is that an infringement on the other person?

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. I'm actually This is my brain is mangled on on this one. >> The answer is no. >> So, you were in unconsensual

Juliatwo unconsensual situationships >> and they healed me. Is anybody confused? >> It's okay. You're allowed to be confused. I in my head when I wrote it down, it made sense. It doesn't need to

Juliamake sense. >> Um like on a like unconditional like human basis. Yeah. >> No. Like in a romantic or >> No, I do not. >> You don't love me. >> I No.

Brian Atlas>> So if I didn't if I You didn't want them to love you. >> Correct. >> Like cuz I think I'd be okay with a woman who I don't have any interest in.

Brian AtlasIt's okay if she loves me as long as she's not a stalker. But I don't know if I would categorize it as unconssensual. I I'm trying to wrap my head around this. Maybe I'm just too low IQ to fully

Brian Atlasunderstand what the [ __ ] you >> Maybe I'm too autistic. It's okay. >> Does anybody else want to help me? >> I'm really confused. >> Can I ask you some clarifying questions?

Julia>> Sure. So, does it make you uncomfortable that this person was in love with you and that's why you're calling it unconsensual love? >> It did not make me uncomfortable. It

Juliamade me feel um good about myself, but um it was not by my consent. And you know, I'm not in charge of how someone else feels. They are in charge of that. Yes. And so >> I think what I'm hearing is that you just weren't in love with them back.

Brian Atlas>> Wait. >> Yes. the maybe it's just like you're you're using a word in like a not appropriate coherent way.

Brian Atlas>> But for example, if a girl approaches me and shoots her shot,

Brian Atlasis that did she unconentually approach me and shoot her? Technically, yes. Because you know, you didn't give her permission. >> Yes. I guess technically it was done without consent.

Indie>> So, >> I don't know. [ __ ] That's >> not Do you think that like like do you think that like say like I saw you out in public and I was like, "Oh, like I thought you were cute." Like just for example, like do you think that if I

Indiecame up to you and like said that I would have to be like, "Hey, is it okay with you if I come up to you? Like would you want me to ask permission?" Like, >> no, you don't need to ask permission. It's just not it's it's uncon like

Brian Atlasit's unconsensual. I know the word whatever. >> Okay. Um and you but you mentioned something about an essay. Is that related to these two? >> No, they are not. >> Is it the slap?

Brian Atlas>> It is not related to the slap. >> Okay. All right. Okay. Uh Maddie Mother, hold on.

Brian AtlasUh one sec, guys. Uh, trans women aren't women, but >> yeah, I mean, cuz I just don't think a woman is a feeling that someone can

Brian Atlashave. >> Okay. Uh, you also write, "Women shouldn't be easy or have Only Fans." Well, no, agreed. Uh, you said it's

Brian Atlasridiculous to expect a man to unfollow every girl. >> Uh, well, I just think men should not be doing that to begin with. So, uh, okay. Men in relationship. Okay,

Brian AtlasI'll skip that one. Find the traditional. Uh, you don't you think like the man getting down on one knee and proposing is cringe and outdated. >> Also, you write yes that the host believes he's a five. I'd rate him a

Kal Pitlittle higher. >> Oh. Oh, >> I'm not as harsh as you are on rating. >> What do you What do you rate me? >> Um, I don't know. Like maybe like six.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. I say I'm 4.5, by the way, but okay, I'll take it. Thank you. >> Uh, let's see. We have Vicki. Nothing for you. All right.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, Erica. >> Oh, she left. >> Lola left. Lucy, no show. All right, we just have two more. Uh, Meline, uh, your thoughts on feminism?

Meline>> I don't even remember what I put. I think we touched on a lot of it, though. Um, I think at large it's not just about equality. Like we said, if it was, women

Melinewould be drafted. Um, I think men and women have different roles. I don't think that's a bad thing. I don't think that makes us lesser in value to them, but I don't think we're necessarily

Melineequal or the same. We both have different skill sets and things that we

Melinetraditionally do well at. So, yeah. Okay. Uh generous essentially uh

Meline>> what were the disagree you had disagreements with Andrew Wilson. >> Oh no. Okay. So there was one thing I was hoping I wanted to talk to him about this but it's okay. >> I'll stand in. I'll do a very poor >> Yes. Do your best Andrew Wilson

Melineimpression. It's on forced auction and I wouldn't say it's a dis well maybe it is a disagreement but so the whole forced auction thing. I won't get into all of all of it, but essentially like I guess

Melinehe'll make the argument that because men can do certain things such as like they can overpower women. Sorry. Oh my god, I did the thing. Um because they can overpower women, put

Melinethem in cages, whatever, and they choose not to do that. That that makes them benevolent. I don't think that like refraining from doing something bad makes you necessarily benevolent. So, I just wanted to pick his brain or I guess

Brian Atlasyour brain on that. So, >> I actually I'm I don't know his argument on on that specific thing. So, I I won't I'm gonna not stand in for him on it, but uh >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> He actually was recently on Timcast and I think he actually went in or I don't know if he talked about the benevolent component to it, but whatever. All

Brian Atlasright. Uh I think that's it for the show notes pretty much. I mean, you had a few more here, but I can't I'm obviously not able to do all of them. All right, we're going to do Mary. What was there

Brian Atlasanything else for the reacts? >> No, >> the bow video. Okay, we'll do the bow video super quick. So, guys, I took a video of my ex-girlfriend I show to all future girlfriends so they know how to act.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Uh, you got it ready, Mary? >> Yeah. All right. So, go ahead. Press play. >> Boom. Huge bow. She has to bow for me as

Brian Atlassoon as I get home. This was after a long podcast day. So, she's got to greet me at least uh when I get home with a bow just as a show of respect. Um, got

Brian Atlasto have my dinner ready after a long podcast. Got to have a dinner ready. Crack open a beer for me. I don't even drink, but it's just there in case I

Brian Atlaswant a little sip. Stir my noodles. She's got to stir the noodles. And >> yeah, get ready. Ready? Ready to play the bow again? >> Boom.

Vicki Sun>> Huge bow. Do you see the depth? Submissive hand posture. Deep bow. >> What's that? >> It's just like, okay, coming from a Chinese right now, this is nowhere near where our culture is currently standing. Like that's actually the to No, it's the

Vicki Suntotal opposite. Like nowadays, Chinese men, they actually prefer their wives to >> just sit back and relax. They'll take care of the housework. They'll take care of the cooking. They'll take care of that. So, I don't know. I thought that was Japanese. Matter of fact, when I saw that and I saw the Chinese characters, I

Brian Atlaswas like, that's my culture. Yeah, >> that has to be AI. It's not real. I refuse. >> The the what? The woman is a man is what you're saying. >> No, it has to be AI. Like, there's no way. >> No, that's that's for sure real. Can I have you guys scoot into the table a little bit?

Vicki Sun>> Well, it's definitely like a skit or something cuz that genuinely doesn't exist in China coming from someone from China. >> Oh, yeah. Of course, it's a skit. But, uh, >> is that >> that's what I want. >> Okay. >> That's what I

Brian Atlas>> that's what you want. But, >> yeah, that's what I get. >> In what world? Maybe not this one, but >> Brian world. Uh, for the perfect man, would you bow for him? >> Do that. Would you bow for him? >> What?

Brian Atlas>> What? >> Wait. Scoot your mic to the very edge of the table. Scoot your mic closer to you. No. Well, that's the one. >> Sorry. Um, >> you got this. >> Would I bow to the most perfect man as a

Brian Atlasjoke? Yeah. Like I don't know >> to. In order to get the perfect man, you have to do this once per day. >> Just bow. All the other [ __ ] you I mean, you >> no perfect man would make their woman bow to themselves. >> Well, so here the the hypothetical would

Brian Atlasbe there's a magic genie. So the perfect man isn't asking you to do that. The magic genie is saying in order for you to get the perfect man, you have to do this as part of the wish or whatever.

Vicki Sun>> Sure. Would you for the most perfect woman? >> Yeah, I would do it for >> If you put the genie in the question and it's like a guaranteed perfect man, I think we'd all do it because like most of the men out here are [ __ ] So who wouldn't for like the perfect man?

Vicki Sun>> Some women wouldn't. Some women say, "Nope, not even for the perfect man, but for the perfect man, you do it." >> Well, if the genie can build me the perfect man because I'm doing it. Yeah. But I'm not going to do it just But it shouldn't take me bowing to him for him

Vicki Sunto be the perfect man. Like, if it's like a real life situation where it's like conditional, like, oh, he'll only be the perfect man if I bow to him, then absolutely not. So, you can get the [ __ ] out. But if it's like the genie says I have to bow to him to get the perfect

Vicki Sunman and then all I have to do is bow, then sure. I think like your hypothetical is a good hypothetical and it's yes to that. But in reality, it's a no. >> Do you guys disagree or any? No. I think I think >> perfect man. Do you hit the bow?

Julia>> No. >> No. Wait. No. You don't bow for the perfect man. >> No. >> No. >> See? See? >> If he asks yes, but he has to keep the toilet seat down.

Kal Pit>> I don't really see the point. >> Like, what's the reason >> besides respect? There's other ways to show respect, is there not? >> I want this specific slapping them across the face. But why? Why this

Brian Atlasspecific one? >> Shots fired. >> So your man can hit you, but you won't bow to him. >> We don't need to get into the the but would he do it? >> Sure. >> What about you? >> For your husband? >> Yeah, why not?

Meline>> What about you? For your >> in the genie hypothetical? Yes. But not if he's like requiring it of me. >> Are you Christian? >> Yes. >> Which Catholic? >> Yeah. >> Uh what does it say in the Bible?

Meline>> We're going to get into submission. I know we are. Does it say wives obey and submit your to your husband? >> It says husbands love your wife as >> you can love your wife and want her to do a bow. >> Yeah. I don't Yeah, it's possible. But I also think like

Meline>> definitely possible >> my Well, you're saying the >> I would love a woman more if she bowed. >> But I I think like I I find it arrogant and like any like someone that's humble that loves me and respects me wouldn't require me to do that. Especially if

Indieit's not like it's not a prevalent cultural aspect of like >> anything's you think it was respectful if a guy bowed for you like would you like that if a guy was like bowing at your feet? >> Kind of cringe.

Meline>> But adding on to that. >> Okay. But like I just >> Yeah, I probably would kind of cringe if someone just bowed cuz people don't really do that. Like it's not necessary. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Uh how about this? Let me make it less culturally weird then. Uh, so I here's another standard I have. First time a girl comes over to my house, she sometimes I don't have laundry ready to go, but she should be willing to do my laundry. First time over my house.

Vicki Sun>> First time over. >> First time ever. >> First time. >> That's the last time she'll be over at your house, too. Then what do you mean? Is that >> I'm surprised you're able to even get a girl to come to your house if that's how you think. Like, >> is it your maid?

Brian Atlas>> You clean her? Is she your cleaner? >> Uh, no. No. She just I I think a woman Look, you guys are not going to like this, but I'm going to give you some game. I'm going to give you all some game.

Brian Atlas>> So, look, if you really [ __ ] like the guy and you're like, sh I I want to do everything I can. Uh I I want to optimize my chances of like making this

Brian Atlaswork. Make yourself help him. Help him. Make his life easier. Do things for him. Acts of service. clean his house, do his dishes, do his laundry. I And look, it

Brian Atlasdoes take a bit of effort, but it's really pretty minimal. I'm telling you, the guy will look at you different. He'll be like, "This is [ __ ] wifey material over here." Cuz look, if you're dealing with a really top tier guy,

Brian Atlasreally attractive guy, uh, beautiful women are very common. Pretty women, there's a lot of beautiful women, a lot of attractive women, a lot of women willing to smash and get

Brian Atlascracked and have sex. You got to bring more to the table. If you're deal and I'm sure most of you are uh dealing with I'm assuming a guy I mean unless you're just dating like guys you're kind of

Brian Atlaslukewarm about I'm assuming you're wanting to date guys you you're really you really really like right so you should try to do the most you should maximize your your ability to actually

Indieget the guy >> I agree with that but I also think that guys should be putting in the same amount of effort when they really like a girl >> who was it here who said I think it was you Mahi didn't you say that uh the man

Brian Atlashas to like the woman more who was that that was somebody here the the man has to be more in love with the woman >> is that the case in your relationship

Mahi>> I just think he would put up with more >> than I don't know because I love >> I don't know >> what are you doing to your boyfriend what are you doing >> no cuz I feel like it's worded no I

Mahidon't raise my guys. >> Okay, I believe you. >> Um, I feel like it it's really bad to say, but it's just like he might love me like a little bit more.

Mahi>> Your your boyfriend? >> Yeah, but I love him like very deep. Yeah, like I love him very deeply. I love him more than like anyone else. >> Her boyfriend. You guys are friends, right? >> No, she's never met by know of him. But

Mahi>> you know of him. Okay. Um h >> but it's not like it's like when you say it like that it's like oh like the woman like likes him and he loves her. No, like I love him very deeply. He loves me very deeply. I just think and like maybe

Brian Atlasif you're putting in perspective like maybe he would put up with a little bit more than I would put up. I guess >> I think it's the reverse. I think it's the reverse. I think the woman has to be

Brian Atlasmore into the guy than the reverse. That's my thought. But uh laundry first time over at the house. Would you do it for a man? >> First time is a little bit too much. I think that's pushing it. I also think he would think that was weird.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Try it. Just [ __ ] try it. Just look. Do this. Do this. I'm going to give you girls some game, okay? I'm going to give you some game. Don't listen to all these [ __ ] Cosmo and [ __ ] call her daddy, all that [ __ ] Don't listen

Brian Atlasto it. I'm going to give you game, >> okay? And look, it is it will take a little a little physical effort doing some of these things, but I'm telling you, the guy will look at you

Brian Atlasdifferently. You go over to the guy's house, first time over at his house. Now, your first instinct might be time to crack. No, no, you could you should still

Brian Atlasprobably do that, but maybe you do it first, but then after the crack, as soon as you crack, you crack. Then >> I do his laundry.

Brian Atlas>> Wow. in the post sex glow. Excuse me, Rupert. Might I do your laundry? Offer him. Be like, "Hey, so do you need any help around the house?" You can say

Brian Atlasthat. Hey, you need help. >> I feel like any guy would just laugh like I I don't know. >> Try it. Just [ __ ] try it as an experiment. You don't even have to want to do Just try it as experiment. Hey, uh is there anything I can help you out

Brian Atlaswith around the house? You need anything cleaned? Uh laundry? You know, don't be weird about it. You know, keep it kind of chill and cool and casual. >> So, don't just get up and start folding clothes. >> Well, that could be hot, too. The girl

Brian Atlasjust like you could just be like, "Um, where's your laundry room?" Oh, okay. I'll be right back. You come back. I started the wash. What's up? No.

Brian AtlasAsk him for permission. Ask him for permission to do it. Can I help you with your laundry? Can I clean something for you? Can I cook something for you? I'm telling you.

Indie>> Okay. Okay. >> I'm telling you, >> cuz honestly, >> that's game for that's some game. >> Well, even for men, too. If a guy came over to my house and like I didn't have my laundry done, he just started doing my laundry, like I'd be like, "Okay." >> It doesn't work the other way. It

Indiedoesn't work the other way. >> I think I'd be like I >> Well, I know what Maybe you're into it. >> No. Well, I've experienced that. You should see a therapist about that, though. But >> I'd have to know him for a while, but like then I would be like I think it's a cultural difference. Oh, you want the guy to just

Vicki Sun>> Well, that's how it's always been. And in my family, too, with the girl, like my sister who's in a two, three year relationship getting married, she's never done the laundry once. Her boyfriend does the laundry all the time. Cooks, cleans, makes the money, everything. I think it's just a cultural

Vicki Sundifference. Maybe when Americans, they think differently. Maybe it's an >> He does like, >> but it's because he really loves her, >> but he also makes the money. >> Yeah. And he provides everything. He

Vicki Sunlets her drive around his 7 series BMW. That's aund,000 princess. He's getting a princess. It's just for the perfect man. So maybe >> how does she spend her day? Like what does she do? >> Well, we're students. They're all students. But he's just rich. So he's

Vicki Sunjust able to do that for her. And she got really, really lucky. Like really lucky. So I think these men do exist out there. And I'm like, I'll say this for my opinion. I'm not going to stoop my standards for someone who expects them to do their laundry cuz that's just not what I'm doing. >> You wouldn't do it.

Vicki Sun>> I would, but not because they want me to. Like I'll do it if I want to, but like um for the right man too, they he should not want you to be doing chores for him. He should also want you to >> Oh, she should be doing all kinds of chores as soon as possible. The girl

Indieshould be doing chores. >> The first date. That's why you don't date. >> First date is like a bit much. I would think that See, I would think that was weird if a guy started doing my chores on the first date out of the US. Men don't act like that. >> I think it's something that >> you should come to Asia. Come check out

Vicki Sunhow we are over there. It's totally opposite. You should learn. >> Are you saying that the the guys are like doing all that for >> Yes. >> So why would I go to Asia? Wait, hold on. No, no, that's totally out. So you can get like a different perspective on your like, oh, I want a submissive girl,

Brian Atlasblah, blah, blah. >> Hold on there. Look, I've I've not been to any Asian countries, so I don't have like firsthand experience, but the reports seem to indicate that uh yeah, Asian women are typically more submissive. >> Correct.

Vicki Sun>> And typically more >> But then Asian men are also more um nurturing and they're more like, "No, no, no, don't do this. Don't do this." >> I'm nurturing. >> No, you are not. >> I'm so nurturing. You American.

Brian Atlas>> I'm so nurturing. How? In what way? >> I like to after my like my girl does a good job with the laundry, I pat her on the head. >> Wow. >> Good girl. >> Like a pet. >> Like a dog. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, no. >> Their own rage bait. >> Oh, if a girl >> I'm just like I'm I just I just successfully rage baited you.

Brian AtlasNo, I'm I'm I'm telling you, you got to >> No, I I literally I'm not even exaggerating. After a girlfriend folds my laundry, I give her a pat on the head. >> And then what does she do? Wait, so you do have a girlfriend? >> How she thinks it's funny?

Brian Atlas>> Huh? >> Wait, so you do have a girlfriend? >> No, I'm saying uh >> Oh, well, that didn't work out, right? >> Well, that doesn't make any sense. >> No, he has a girlfriend. >> He does. No, I'm virgin. Don't tell us. >> I'm a virgin. No, no, no. I don't have a

Brian AtlasI I don't have a girlfriend. uh currently I guess you could say uh I don't speak about my relationship status but um >> I'm of the women I have dated yeah you

Brian Atlasdo a little pat on the head give her a little spank on the butt >> you treat he's getting flashbacks also you just you just like squish her

Brian Atlasagainst the wall too you just squish her against the wall you put all your weight >> especially me it's like crazy you just squish her against the wall and you're like thanks babe and And then you just squish her for like 2 minutes and she's

Brian Atlashappy. >> Like you hold the dog. Oh my god. >> No, I'm not [ __ ] bear hugging suffocating her. She It's just a little pressure. A little pressure. I squish her against the wall and then I [ __ ] tickle her and like

Meline>> Oh gosh. >> scratch her back and Yeah, it's good. >> This is sounds so terrible. >> No, right. >> Meline likes it. >> No. >> Okay, good talk. All right. Well, you

Amelia (Phlebotomist)guys just don't know what you're talking about. clearly missing out. Thank you. Thank you for the advice. >> Look, just [ __ ] try it. Just try it once. I'm telling you. Telling you. Just be like, >> "I'll try it." And when he ghosts me

Brian Atlasafter, I'll >> DM you. >> Keep me posting. >> If it doesn't work, we're coming for you, Brian. >> Imagine like this is the this could have been the love of your life, but you

Brian Atlaslisten to me and I totally [ __ ] everything up for you. >> You're like, "Leave my house." Like what if he's like, "Leave my house." >> Hey, [ __ ] You never know. I'm just saying I think it would work. I think it

Brian AtlasI'm You know what? It will 100% work. 67% of the time it works. >> 673% of the time. >> Wait, so it doesn't work 100%. >> 69% of the time it works every time. 100% of the time. >> Something like that.

Brian Atlas>> Interesting. >> Yeah. No, I think uh give it a shot. Try it. Oh, [ __ ] I had a really good question related to this. [ __ ] it just vanished in my brain. Okay, I'm just going to get into the rapid fire

Brian Atlasquestions. This is sort of the final segment. It's a string of questions. Here we go. Uh, wait, actually, I

Brian Atlasremember what it was. Okay, before we get to the final segment, why is it okay to say men should >> what? >> Men should pay for dates, men should be

Brian Atlaschivalous, men should provide, men should protect. Why is it okay to say that? But it seems like when you say women should >> Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're being a

Vicki Sunsexist. You're being a misogynist. >> I don't understand. >> That's kind of the same thing as what you just said earlier. Like when I said, "Oh, men should do the laundry." You're like, "Well, men shouldn't." It's just kind of like, >> well, if you want to speak traditionally, traditional gender roles

Brian Atlasin our society. Well, no, but the traditional gender roles for women seem to be deemed as oppressive or misogynistic or sexist, whereas the

Brian Atlastraditional male gender roles even seem to be static. >> Who said that though? >> What do you mean who said that? >> Like I didn't say like none of us I don't think any of us said that it was misogynist. >> So I think I'm speaking in a general

Brian Atlassense of where I think society would be at. I think generally if a man were to say I uh I think a woman should cook. I think a woman should make me a sandwich. I think a woman should >> I don't think that's misogynistic.

Brian Atlas>> I think Well, maybe you don't think that, but I think at least in terms of a comparative a comparison, I do think that there's going to be a a greater negative appraisal of any time we say

Brian Atlaswomen should that's going to more often fall under a guise of misogyny, sexism, blah blah blah. But no such criticism would ever be made of a woman saying men

Brian Atlasshould pay on dates, men should provide, protect, be chivalous. Even like a liberal, like a lot of progressive women are still want these things. So I don't know

Brian Atlashere, I'll put it I'll frame it like this. The same woman that would say it's a sexist trope and stereotype or it's sexist misogynistic for a man to expect

Brian Atlasor say women should cook and clean. I think it's it would be likely that that same woman would say men should pay for dates. >> Well, >> men should provide, men should protect

Brian Atlas>> like Yeah. >> Hey, buddy. My >> um >> Can you dab really quick? >> Can you just >> do a dab? Are you too young for that? I feel like you're That's before your time. >> Did you dab? Are you a dabber?

Brian Atlas>> I'm only 19. I'm a >> dab. Can you dab? Show us a dab. >> No, I'm not going to. But I was. >> It's Come on. >> No, it's Am I allowed to dab? >> Vicki, >> do it. >> No, she has to do it. Vicki, Vicky, Icky, Vicky, Vicky, hit the dab right

Melinenow. >> Or plank. Plank or dab? You You guys definitely don't know what a plank is. Do you guys know what the plank? >> I don't know what the plank is. What? >> Not the exercise. >> Planking. >> The lying on the floor. Still you guys

Juliadon't know. >> I know what planking is. >> Yeah, I know. >> What is it? >> Older Gen Z. >> Yeah. >> Wait, what year were Wait, >> I'm 07. >> You were born >> 2007. Planking is before I'm pretty sure >> 12.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, like around 2012. >> Yeah, 2011. >> Yeah, I was fine. >> No, planking, I think. Or wait, maybe my dates are off. Whatever. [ __ ] >> I was in middle school. >> I was in middle school. Yeah, >> but why is it okay for women to say

Mahishould, you know, would have done? >> I don't have the expectation since like I don't like I don't have I don't really like Yeah, gender roles exist, but honestly like I don't really like believe in them. So I don't have the

Mahiexpectation like oh men should pay for the first states men should provide like especially men should provide. No I can take care of myself an independent. I don't >> your boyfriend vote for Trump. >> No

Brian Atlasmy boyfriend's not a Republican at all. My boyfriend's liberal. >> Or so you think. >> No he is. I've sat down with his >> He loves you. He you know what the problem is? He loves you so much

Mahi>> willing to disclose who he actually voted for. >> His parents are also immigrants. Like they I've met his family like they're also very like liberal. His mom's lives in the health care system so she's also liberal. >> Immigrants for Trump.

Mahi>> No, not not them. >> Some of them are okay. Uh >> but that's the thing. I don't have the expectation exact cuz also Yeah. Like I realize like it is um hypocritical for me to have this expectation like oh

Mahiwomen shouldn't have gender norms enforced in them but then we also shouldn't enforce the same gender roles on men that they've always had. like they should provide, they should take care of us, they should pay for the first aids, they should be shiverless,

Mahiso I don't have the expectation, but my boyfriend is like I mean he is kind enough like he is very shiverless and >> I think your boyfriend's kind of based secretly. >> What do you mean? >> I I don't know. I get this. I don't even

Brian Atlasknow what your boyfriend looks like. I don't know who Do you like post your boyfriend or >> I do post my boyfriend. >> Okay. I haven't really done deep dive on your Instagram or whatever, but uh I feel like he's secretly kind of Republican. He is not Republican. I can

Brian Atlastell you that. >> I I have no [ __ ] idea. Uh how about this? Uh before we get into the final segment, should a man be willing to take a bullet for a woman?

Vicki Sun>> For well, anyone? >> Yeah. But I would take a bullet for my husband like how deep in the relationship. I guess marriage. Yeah. I feel like you >> take a bullet. >> No kids though. No kids. >> No kids still. Yes. Because I feel like marriage if you're married, you're

Vicki Sunmarried. you should see them as like an equal or if not like higher I guess not that you should like put them before yourselves but like >> the expectation is that you do love them so much that you're able to and then if

Vicki Sunthat's just not the case then maybe I think you just married the wrong person >> like if you're not willing to sacrifice yourself for the person you claim you love then do you really love them especially someone that you chose to spend the rest of your life with in this

Vicki Suncage marriage I feel like dating wise like low-key could be no like it really depends like if you're dating it's like I wouldn't get mad at someone for saying no. Of course, I need to hear more. But like if you're married, the expectation should be like, "Yeah, I think you

Brian Atlasshould." >> Do y'all think it would be beta ba beta for a guy to like if in a situation you have to pick?

Brian AtlasIs it you or your girlfriend? You or your wife? Do you think it would be beta for the man to sacrifice the woman instead of him? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Beta.

Brian Atlas>> I think so. I was like, damn. I actually think I by the way I don't I I don't consider myself an alpha. >> I'm I'm a sigma male. Okay. Sigma

Brian Atlas>> sigma mindset. Uh I don't believe in the beta alpha thing. I I think it's it's super cringe when especi a guy who calls himself alpha male is [ __ ] cringe.

Brian Atlas>> I'm a [ __ ] sigma male though. But just kidding. But anyways, I actually think it's more alpha male grindset for the woman to die. >> What?

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