MEGA BLACK PlLL?! Fake VlRGlN Sarah?! Mormon Girl Tried To Sell Her VlRGlNlTY?! | Dating Talk 281

Date: 2026-02-09

Duration: 9h 27m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAmelia (Phlebotomist)>

JJulia (Dentistry)>

EErica (Childcare)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Erica(guest)

SPEAKER_03Indie(guest)

SPEAKER_05Maddie(guest)

SPEAKER_06Kal Pit(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Meline(guest)

SPEAKER_09Lola Gold(guest)

SPEAKER_10Mahi(guest)

SPEAKER_12Julia(guest)

SPEAKER_13Vicki Sun(guest)

SPEAKER_14Amelia (Phlebotomist)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

Key MomentLola Gold vs Meline: OnlyFans ethics debate

ControversyKal Pit: women should have 3/5 of a vote

ControversyVicki Sun would side with China over USA

QuoteJulia listed virginity for sale at $500K-$1M on Cinderella Escorts

ControversyKal Pit's hot take: re-legalize hitting wives. Near universal condemnation.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

All guests introduce themselves.

OnlyFans/Sex Work Debate

Lola Gold defends OF. Meline/Julia push back.

Women's Voting Rights

Kal Pit: women should have 3/5 of a vote.

China vs USA Allegiance

Vicki Sun sides with China.

Sarah Stock Controversy

Conservative Catholic influencer who faked virginity while cheating.

Julia's Virginity Sale

Listed virginity on Cinderella Escorts for $500K-$1M.

Body Count Reveals

Range from 0 (Julia) to 12 (Lola).

Self-Ratings and Brian Rates

Most rated 5-6.5 by Brian.

Kal Pit's Hot Take

Bring back legalizing hitting your wife. Major controversy.

ICE/Immigration Debate

Mahi defends pro-immigration position.

Transcript

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Brian AtlasWelcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape. I'm your host, Brian Atlas. We're just going to jump right into the show. Sorry for the delay, guys. Uh, go ahead and introduce

Indieyourself. >> Hi, my name is Indie. I'm 20 years old and I go to college in San Marcos. Um, I'm a psychology major and I'm also getting into the modeling industry. >> Okay. And are you you're from San Marcos

Indieor >> I'm originally from Boston? M. >> From Boston. So, you like born there, grew up there? >> Yeah. And I moved to California for college. >> Okay. Can you like fake a Boston accent for the for the show? >> Um, I don't know. I don't think I don't think I have one. I don't think I have

Indieit in me. >> You know, what parts of Boston typically uh of the people who live there have the accent? Like there's probably >> neighborhood people that Yeah, people that live more like in the city, I'd say.

Brian Atlas>> And definitely older people. Yeah, >> older people. The younger people don't have it anymore. >> Is it lost? Interesting. >> A little bit. >> Huh. Interesting. >> Yeah, I live Yeah. on the coast. >> And you're studying psychology. Gotcha.

Vicki SunOkay. What about you? >> Um, my name is Vicki Sun. I'm 18 years old. Uh, born in China, raised in San Francisco, and I currently go to school at UCSB. >> All All right. And uh what part of

Brian AtlasChina? >> Uh Hannandal. So it's an island on the south. >> Okay. You you speak Mandarin? >> I do. >> Cantonese. >> Um somewhat. Yes. >> Somewhat. Okay. And you moved to the United States at what age?

Brian Atlas>> Um at the age of five. >> Oh, age of five. Okay. Gotcha. Um and uh do you have citizenship? >> I do not. I'm a citizen of China still. >> Okay. And your parents, they live here too or

Brian Atlas>> um Yes. >> Okay. Do they have US citizenship? Have they tried to go through the no process? >> We all are still Chinese citizens. >> Okay. Do you have like uh green cards or >> um Yeah, we got that in the process.

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> Gotcha. Okay. What about you? >> Hi, my name is Amelia. I'm 21. I'm from Los Angeles. Uh my education I commuted, excuse me. I finished technical college

Amelia (Phlebotomist)to be a phabotamist, but I'm currently working as a caregiver. I'm extending my education to become a medical assistant pretty soon and I currently work a caregiver um with disabled adults.

Lola Gold>> All right. What about you? >> Hi, my name is Lola Gold. I'm 23 and my main source of income is Only Fans. Um but I studied as a veterary nurse and I'm a catwalk model. >> Okay. All right. And where you from?

Mahi>> England. >> Well, forgot that part. >> What city? Interesting. >> Um no, it's Bristol. >> Bristol. Okay. >> But I live in London currently. >> London. Got it. What about you? >> Uh, my name is Mahi. I'm 19 and I go to UCSB.

Julia>> Where you from? >> I'm from Chicago. >> Uh, what are you studying? >> Uh, psych and brain science. >> All right. >> What about you? >> I'm Julia. I'm 27. I work in um

Ericapediatric dentistry. No higher education for the time being. And I'm from Arizona. >> All right. What about you? >> My name is Erica. I am 38 and I work in childcare. I'm from Long Beach. Beach. I

Ericagrew up in Long Beach. I live in Orange County currently. >> Any college or university? >> I went to Cal Long Long Beach. >> What uh did you graduate or >> Yeah, a long time ago. >> Bachelor's. >> Yeah. >> What did What did you >> theater and child development?

Kal Pit>> Okay. What about you? >> Hi, my name is Kal Pit. I'm 26. I'm an actress and a psychic. And I I did some community college before lockdown, but then I had a lot of health problems

Brian Atlasfollow me. So, I had to take time off school, but I want to go back for game development and design. Okay. And where are you from? >> Oh, I'm from the San Fernando Valley in LA County. A valley girl. >> Born. >> Yes. Bornis. Okay. Uh, and any college,

Kal Pituniversity? >> Yeah, I did a little bit of community college, but I haven't finished yet. I want to go back. >> What What were you studying? >> Oh, computer science with a concentration in game development and design.

Maddie>> Got it. Okay. What about you? >> Um, hi, my name is Maddie. I'm 29. I'm a Washington. >> Okay. Any college, university? Yeah.

Meline>> Okay. What about you? >> Hi, I'm Meline. I'm 24 and I was born and raised in SoCal, Inland Empire area. Um, I currently work in local government. I'm an executive assistant

Melinefor uh fire department. >> All right. Any college university? >> Yes, I have my masters in public administration. >> Huh? >> They're saying her mic seems off. >> Her mic seems off.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Uh, has it been the audio for other people? >> It's not saying it says chair. >> Wait, chair?

Brian AtlasWait, chat. Uh, >> who's uh chat. So, this is Wait. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. Uh, chair nine or chair

Brian Atlas10? Chair 10 is next to me. Is it chair nine or chair 10? Which microphone is having? >> Oh, hers. >> Okay. Okay. Got it, guys. Uh, wait.

MelineChair nine. >> So, so you >> me. >> Okay. All right. Um, masters in >> uh masters in public administration and then uh bachelor's in political science.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, wait. Bachelor's in political science. Okay. >> All right. from >> uh Inland Empire region, SoCal.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. All right. Uh I'm going to fix the mic here in just a moment, but first uh we have a quick sponsorship announcement. So guys, the world knows

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Brian Atlasseven-part series now only on Daily Wire Plus. Okay. Uh going around the table once more and I'm also going to get up and fix the uh audio situation, attempt

Brian Atlasto fix it. Um, can you tell us your uh relationship status, please? >> Uh, starting with me. >> Yeah. Yeah, starting with me. >> Sorry. I'm single.

Indie>> I'm also single. >> And then, uh, tell us how long you've been single. And then your longest relationship. >> Um, I think I've been single for a little over a year, maybe a year and a

Vicki Sunhalf. And my longest relationship was two years. Um, I've been single for like half a year now and my longest relationship was a year and six months.

Brian Atlas>> Can you talk into your mic really quick? >> Hello. >> Louder. >> Hello. >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Continue on, guys. >> Um, I'm in a relationship.

Brian Atlas>> You know what? Hold on. I'm sorry. >> Why don't you do this? Who do you have for the Super Bowl? Just [ __ ] Whatever. Starting with you. Who Who do you want to win for the Super Bowl? >> Bad Bunny.

Maddiedon't have a team. >> Uh I'm from Washington, so obviously >> I don't care about football. >> I have no idea who's playing. >> Same.

Kal Pit>> No idea. >> Same. I don't know. >> Is a Patriot. >> It's all staged anyway.

Brian Atlas>> It's staged. >> Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you tell us how you're a psychic? Tell us about that. >> Oh, I did tarot and palm readings. >> Above that. >> Okay. >> What do you mean? >> All right. Uh, can you speak into the

Brian Atlasmicrophone, please? >> Hello. Is it working? >> Keep going. Chat, >> is it fixed? It should be fixed. >> Is it fixed? >> Is it fixed? Chat one, two, three.

Brian AtlasTesting one, two, three. >> Testing one, two, three. One, two, three. >> Okay, it's working. All right. Sorry for sorry for the uh delay there, guys. Uh technical magic there. Uh all right, so

Indiegoing back to the relationship status, if you can repeat it. Uh go ahead. >> Um I'm single. I've been single for like a year and a half, and my longest relationship lasted for two years. >> Is that the one that ended a year and a half ago?

Indie>> Uh yeah. >> Okay. And who broke up with who? >> Um I technically broke up with him, but it was kind of a mutual thing. >> Mutual thing. Okay.

IndieSo, but why? Okay. Technically, you broke up with him. >> I broke up with him, but like we both kind of agreed things weren't working and so the breakup was mutual. >> I see. Okay.

Vicki Sun>> Uh, all right. What about you? >> Um, so I have been single for like a half a year now. And my longest relationship was a year and a half. >> All right. A year and a half. Is that

Vicki Sunthe one that ended a year and a half ago? the one that ended like six months ago. Like half a year ago. >> Gotcha. Okay. Uh, who broke up with who? >> Um, I broke up with him. >> Okay. Well, it was like a high school relationship.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, high school pretty much. >> All right. Did you go back to China, by the way? >> Um, I go back in the summers. Yes. >> In the summers. Have you done any dating in China? >> Uh, no. I have no dating. >> No dating in China. >> Okay. >> Uh, just curious, do you have a

Vicki Sunpreference when it comes to the kind of men that you date? Um, well, >> black guys, Asian guys, black guys, Latino. >> Speaking like from my experience, I've honestly pretty much been with like Chinese people. Not that I have a

Vicki Sunpreference, but I think like there's just more in common and more similarity with Chinese people being like Chinese. So, >> okay. >> I'd say like Asian guys. Yeah. >> So, your last boyfriend, he was Chinese. >> Yes.

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> Gotcha. All right. Uh, and single for half a year? >> Yeah. >> Something okay? >> Yeah. >> Okay. I thought I heard like a oop. What about you? >> I'm in a relationship and it's coming up

Brian Atlason 11 months. >> 11 months. All right. Did you used to do Only Fans? >> Never. >> And you don't do it currently, correct? >> I'm just trying to remember. You do raves. You go to raves? >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> All right. Never did OF. >> Just wanted to double check there. Uh, okay. In relationship 11 months. What

Lola Goldabout you? Um, I'm single and I've been single for nearly a year. >> Okay. Longest relationship. >> Okay. My longest relationship was a year. >> One year. Is that the one that ended a

Lola Goldyear ago? >> Yes. >> All right. And you're friends with Bivo? >> Well, Bivo's girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, I guess. I don't know. >> I mean, we've actually never met. We're not >> Okay. >> We're not. >> But, you know, >> I suppose we're we're associates.

Brian Atlas>> Associates. >> Yes. Yes. You haven't done content? >> Absolutely not. >> Absolutely not. Please. >> He does content, right? I don't know. >> I don't know. >> You don't? Okay. >> I think >> uh >> maybe. >> And how long have you been in the United States?

Brian Atlas>> I've been here for two and a bit months now. >> You're just vi just visiting? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Have you dated any American men? >> Uh yeah, I have. >> What's the difference would you say

Mahibetween American men and >> I think you guys are like more forward in a good way. >> In a good way. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Uh, what about you? >> Um, I'm currently in a two and a half year relationship and that's been my

Julialongest relationship. >> All right. What about you? >> My longest relationship has been 4 months and um I'm in a complicated

Brian Atlassituation. >> Uh, 4 months longest. Okay. So, it's complicated currently. How long have you been seeing Mr. It's Complicated

Julia>> now? a month. >> One month. Why is it complicated? >> So, we are debating if our compatibility is there. And he told me that we would

Juliatake a break, not not like a break, but like a talking break for a week and um to that we'll redefine and redetermine

Brian Atlasour compatibility after this podcast >> after. So, is he watching live and he's assessing your answers to >> Yes, sir.

Brian Atlas>> Was whose decision was it to reassess after your appearance on on the whatever? >> His idea. >> That's interesting. That's a new one for us. Um, >> so, okay, you've been and you've only known him for a month.

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> Yes, sir. >> How did you guys meet? Dating up. >> The EOS hot tub. >> Damn. >> EOS hot tub. >> Yes, sir. formerly Gold's gym. >> Is that like a nightclub or >> Oh, no. It's a gym. It used to be Gold's gym. They bought it out.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, EOS. >> Uhhuh. Really big in Asia. >> You guys met at the gym. I got it. Okay. Um, your longest relationship ever? Four months. So, that's interesting. Uh, you're Christian.

Brian Atlas>> I am Mormon. >> Oh, >> but I will. >> Mormons are Well, >> yeah. Yeah. It depends. >> Mormons. You got I why? No, but didn't you guys re not? You guys

Juliakind of revoked the Mormon title. It's LDS. >> It's Latter Day Saint. I used to say that and no one used to say it and now everyone says Latter Day Saint, so now I say Mormon >> just to be >> Yeah.

Julia>> Just to be troublesome. Yes. >> Um, did you go to church? >> Yes. >> Uh, okay. How long have you been LDS or Mormon or whatever? >> My entire life. I took a long break for a while and explored different

Juliareligions, but essentially my entire life. >> Did you go to BYU? >> No. >> Okay. >> Wanted to, but no. >> Interesting. Okay. Um, are you waiting until marriage?

Brian Atlas>> Yes, sir. >> Has that been your standard your your entire life? >> Yes. >> So, you're a virgin? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, none of that what do they call it? What are the more >> not reborn again or what? The super soaking thing. >> The the bed shaking thing. the super

Juliasoaking thing. Soaking. No, that's so disgusting. >> Is that real? >> Yes. And I don't know anyone who does it or openly admits it. >> So, not born again virgin, by the way. Never virgin. >> I I'm I've been a virgin my whole life.

Brian AtlasI have. Yeah. >> All right. Okay. And you're dating a guy. Is he a Mormon? >> No, he's Jewish. You're a devout LDS Mormon Christian

Juliadating a is what kind of >> I don't know if he I don't know if he's orthodox or hidic or whatever. Um he just says that he's Jewish >> like culturally Jewish or like actually religiously Jewish.

Julia>> Um he grew up Jewish like his mom is a cantor but they didn't they weren't um super rigid or anything. >> That's interesting. Um,

Brian Atlasso the complicated guy, Jewish. >> Yes, sir. >> And you're devoutly Mormon. >> Would it Shouldn't that just be a non-starter for you?

Julia>> You would think so. Um, I'm open. I'm one of the rare ones that's open to dating other men um as long as they love Jesus or and he's open to Jesus. And so

Brian Atlas>> well I mean Christianity whether it's Islam whether it's Judaism uh the faiths are to some degree uh non-aligned

Brian Atlasso it's a bit and also so are you going to convert to Jud Judaism or is he going to convert to LDS >> should things work out I see us having

Julialike an interfaith sort of environment I've seen it happen I've seen Catholics state Jew It's a thing. >> Well, it it happens, but I mean it's um it's just

Brian Atlasif you guys both take your faith seriously, it just seems completely incompatible. >> I have a question for you. >> Even by the way, even other Christian, like the differences between Christian

Brian Atlasdenominations, Orthodox with a Catholic or with a Protestant, it's even then, even if you're both Christians, it's going to cause issues. Yes, it it could possibly. You have to

Brian Atlas>> But why why not just be like, you know what, I'm Mormon. Let me just make things easy. Just date a Mormon guy. >> I was talking to someone about that earlier. >> And that's part of the compatibility

Brian Atlasquestion that we have on hand. >> Seems like a pretty significant compatibility issue. Um are there but outside of religion, are there other

Juliacompatibility issues? >> Yes. um personality differences. He's very um he's kind of brute. He's very direct. >> Brute. >> Brute. Yes. >> Brute. Okay. >> He's a brute man. Um

Julia>> he's direct. Okay. >> Yeah. He's very direct. Um he's very difficult. Um kind of stubborn. And these are all fine things. It's just how

Brian Atlashe goes about those. >> Okay. Um is he waiting until marriage? >> He's willing to. >> He's willing to. Okay. I don't know if that's in Judaism. I'm not sure if

Brian Atlasthat's the standard in the religion. Maybe if you're Orthodox, I think >> probably that, >> but like the more I whatever. Um Okay, that's interesting. Uh complicated. All

Ericaright. What about you? >> Oh lord. Um I'm single. >> All right. Uh how long you've been single for? >> Uh maybe a month.

Erica>> One month. >> Maybe less. I had my heart broke and I didn't want to count. Uh, longest relationship you've ever been in? >> Like six, seven years. >> Is that the one that ended a month ago? >> No.

Erica>> Okay. So, I see the one that ended a month ago. How long was that relationship? >> Gosh, I don't even know if I could call a relationship. It was like nine months

Ericamaybe since he was from the UK. >> Okay. >> White guy, black guy. >> He was black. >> Black guy. Okay. Mhm. >> And >> it was from Reading though, may I add? >> Where? >> Reading.

Brian Atlas>> Reading. >> Yeah. >> That's a place in the UK, I assume. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Is that like a Is that like a bad place or >> It's just a little bit rough. >> Rough.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. Um Okay. Single for one month. Um All right. What about you? >> Hi. Um I've been single for almost six

Brian Atlasyears. Six years and I'm currently single. Yeah. So >> currently single. Okay. Longest relationship? >> Eight months. >> Eight months. Is that the one that ended six years ago? >> Yes. >> Okay. You've been single for six years.

Brian AtlasUh but anything in that time period? Anything shorter term? Couple months. Here, 6 months, something like that. >> I just had a couple of narcissists love bomb me, but that doesn't really count for anything. So >> narcissists lovebomb you?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, question of the men. I'll just really quick ask the whole panel. Who here has dated a narcissist? Show of

Brian Atlashands, please. Just you. Nobody else has dated a narcissist. >> Oh, okay. Why? The hands aren't coming up. You've dated. You've dated. Okay. Well, I'll focus on you here for a

Kal Pitmoment then. Um, were they diagnosed with uh NPD? The thing is it's nearly it's like virtually impossible to get diagnosed with NPD because part like the whole core thing of their disorder is

Brian Atlasthat they don't admit that they're doing anything wrong. >> Um well I mean I would imagine that if

Brian Atlasthey went to a therapist perhaps the rates of people who actually end up or undiagnosed have NPD maybe their rates of going to therapist are much lower.

Brian AtlasBut uh I mean there's clear there there's clearly a diagnostic metric for how you would diagnose somebody with Yeah.

Kal Pit>> MPD. Okay. But no, not they don't have a diagnosis of narcissistic personality >> disorder. Okay. >> Uh and you said that was for how long? >> The >> Oh, I mean I just both narcissists. It

Brian Atlaswas just a couple of months. >> How many narcissists have you dated? >> Two. >> Two. Okay. Was the eight-month one also a narcissist? >> No, but he was probably like a sociopath. >> Sociopath. Okay. And then you said he

Kal Pitlovebombed you. What do you mean by that? What did he do? >> Like they purposely do this thing where they talk to you like 12, 13 hours a day. They never spend any time away from you. They purposely mirror all your little quirks and interests to make it

Kal Pitseem like they're your soulmate. They tell you they love you like really early on. They do these things to like rush the relationship like have you meet

Brian Atlastheir family. Okay. Um, how soon did he say I love you? >> Probably after a few weeks. >> Okay. Did you also reply that you loved

Kal Pithim or >> No, I think my gut knew something was wrong. I just started crying. >> You You cried? >> Yeah. Like, you know, when your gut just knows like something is off. Like I felt

Brian Atlaslike I was in danger. >> Okay. You're a psychic though, right? >> Yeah. as a sidekick, shouldn't you be able to have fornowledge of this person's a narcissist? Shouldn't

Kal Pitthey? Like, shouldn't you don't you know that? >> Well, well, here's the thing. I'm also very naive. Like, I come from a culture where like your parents don't really talk to you about dating and all that. Like, my parents had an arranged marriage, so I was really sheltered in that regard.

Kal Pit>> What culture is that? >> Um, I'm Indian. >> Indian. Okay. >> Yeah. And so like I'm just I can just be naive, gullible, trusting because like I just assume the other person feels as strongly as I do. And when you're into

Kal Pitsomeone, it's easy to romanticize them, you know, like overlook their flaws because you just so badly want that connection. >> Wait, I have Hold on. Okay, I have a

Brian Atlasmagic eightball here. Uh, as a psychic, uh, I want you to predict what will be what's going to be on the the dice. Okay.

Kal Pit>> Okay. Tell me. >> I guess ask again next time. >> Wouldn't that be [ __ ] insane if it was >> here? You read it so I'm not lying.

Brian Atlas>> Don't bet on it. >> Okay. >> You want two for best here? Okay. One more time. >> All right. All right. Well, uh,

Brian Atlas>> so what what are your obviously it doesn't work very well with magic aballs, but in terms of your psychic abilities, um, can you what what would be an application that we could explore

Brian Atlasright here, right now? >> I mostly do tarot card readings. >> Tarot card. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Is that psychic though? Is that under the realm of psychic?

Kal Pit>> I think so. >> But you said you're a psychic. That makes me think you have like precognition or you can see the future kind of. >> I mean, haven't you ever had that happen

Kal Pitto you where your gut was trying to tell you or warn you of something before it happened? >> Well, that's not psychic ability. That's uh >> intuition maybe. >> I mean, that that's kind of just evolutionary.

Brian AtlasLike there is something what what is the gift of fear? Something like that. But um yeah, sometime look sometimes your gut is

Kal Pitwrong but sometimes it's correct. But I don't think that makes you a psychic. >> I mean you're a man. You don't believe in this stuff.

Brian Atlas>> Well, why what would prevent a woman from being rational and coming to the determination that psychic psychic tree is that the right term? Psychic

Brian Atlaspsychotry. psychotry, psychic, whatever is uh snake oil and [ __ ] >> I don't believe in it. I think everyone's allowed to be skeptic. Like everyone is entitled to their own

Brian Atlasopinion. >> Yeah, but why why should we dismiss women who are skeptical of this? >> Oh, no. I'm saying anyone can be skeptical. >> Oh, okay. But you said specifically as a

Kal Pitman, I have greater what what do I as a man? What? Greater what? I just know like stereotypically men just aren't into this stuff like it's like you know gender interest.

Brian Atlas>> Well, I think it actually is probably true that for example with astrology >> this not all women believe in astrology but it seems like more women have a interest in it than men do.

Brian Atlas>> Men are more dismissive of it than women are. >> Uh so I suppose that's true but yeah. Okay. Do you want to predict something like I

Brian Atlasdon't know is like >> Yeah. >> No. >> No. You want give us one prediction >> about >> somebody is one of the women here going to enter into a lesbian relationship with with one of the other women. >> Oh.

Brian Atlas>> No. >> You don't feel it? I I'm actually detecting a little lesbian energy from this side of the table right in that corner. I'm not going to say who, but I do detect. >> I think you're telling us your fantasies out loud.

MaddieDefinitely not. Definitely not. Um but um okay. All right. Uh what about you?

Maddie>> Um I'm engaged and I've been in this relationship for 15 years. >> Uh how long have you guys been engaged? >> Uh two five years. >> Five years. >> Yeah. Sorry.

Lola Gold>> That's a long I want I wonder what the women here think. What do you guys think? That's a long time to be >> not if you're saving up for the right day. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Just

Brian Atlas>> Well, to be fair, you guys also met young, right? Cuz you're 29. I'm >> 29. >> He's 29. >> Yeah. >> So, you guys met in like high school? >> Middle school. >> At like 14. >> Yeah. >> Oh, a little closer to the mic if you can.

Maddie>> Yeah. We met in middle school. >> Okay. Um Okay. >> We have two kids. >> Oh, okay. Two kids. I have an 11-year-old and a 5-year-old >> with him. >> Yes, with him. >> I'm hoping.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, both of him. >> Okay. Any Anybody else here have kids? >> I have a daughter. >> Daughter. >> Is uh Is that from the Wait, >> no. >> The ninemonth guy?

Erica>> No, it's from my ex-husband. >> Oh, you were married previously. Wait. >> Yeah, I didn't mention that. No. >> Your longest relationship was >> No, that was a long time ago. I'm 38. I have a long a lot of

Erica>> the longest relationship at any point. >> Six, seven years. That was a long time. I was in high school when with the six, seven year like from high school till college. >> I see. Okay.

Erica>> Uh so you were married to him for >> No, that was somebody. >> Wait, >> so high school I was with someone for like six, seven years. >> Six, seven years. Okay. >> And then you know um another two-year

Ericarelationship and then I got married. We were married for 4 years, I think. >> Yeah. And I have a daughter with him. >> I see. >> From Europe, also. >> Oh, no. He's from He's from Denmark. >> Black guy.

Brian Atlas>> He looks like you. >> Oh, wow. White guy then. >> White guy. >> I guess a black guy could look like me. Um, >> yeah. >> The black version of me. Uh, okay.

Brian Atlas>> He's white. >> Uh, okay. Does he pay you child support? >> No. >> You have full custody, I'm assuming? >> No. He has custody >> 5050. >> 5050. So he lives in the USA? >> Yes. >> Okay. Interesting.

Erica>> Very. >> Uh, does he pay you alimony? Or did did he pay you alone? >> No. He made me feel so bad for even thinking about alimony. >> You thought about the alimony. >> At first I was like, "No." And then he

Ericawas being really mean and I was like, "I'm going to take alimony." He was like, "You're spiteful." And that's like, nah, I'm not. I was I just our divorce took so long and I was just like

Brian AtlasI'm over it. Whatever. Just no alimony, 50/50, whatever. Just this. >> Well, that's reasonable of you. That's reasonable. Uh okay. What about you?

Meline>> I'm single. I've been single for five to six months and my longest relationship was four years. >> Is that the one that ended five to six months ago? >> No.

Brian Atlas>> Uh how long was the most recent one? Uh, it was around two years, but it was on and off. >> On and off for >> two years. How many times was it on and off? >> Oh, it's a blur. Honestly, I couldn't even tell you. Um,

Meline>> ballpark. Three, four, five, six, seven. >> Probably >> more than 10. >> Six, seven. More than seven, maybe. >> Six, seven. Okay. >> Yeah. Oh gosh.

Brian Atlas>> Oh boy. When will it end? Um, uh, who would be initiating the off?

Meline>> Um, it was probably split or leaning towards me. >> Yeah, >> you would overwhelmingly be the one to break things off.

Meline>> Not overwhelmingly, but like it it was kind of even, but more so probably me. If I had to pick one. >> So, if it was seven times off, you ended things four times, he ended things three times. Probably around there. Yeah,

Brian Atlas>> something like that. >> Who would try to get back with each with the person? >> Um, I'd say him. He he was more likely to reach out. >> Okay. And how long were the breaks typically during the off period? Couple

Melineweeks, couple days, couple months. >> Sometimes they were like three months and sometimes it would be like a week. So that also varied. >> Who here at the panel has a experience

Brian Atlaswith on again off-again relationship? Show hands.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. All right. A couple of you guys. Couple of you guys. Um hm why would what would be the primary reason for the breakups? Was it different every time or would be there

Melinebe a repeating issue? >> Um okay. Uh mainly it would be around loyalty or just >> how many men did you cheat on him with? >> No. None. >> Oh women.

Meline>> None. >> Oh my bad. He cheated then. >> Yes. Yeah. I did catch him cheating a couple of times. So >> a couple times. >> Yeah. catch him like in the act like you walked in and

Meline>> No, no, not that. Um, it was mainly like I had had a feeling, some type of intuition and then I asked to see his phone and I saw something on it. So,

Meline>> what did you see? >> A DM. It wasn't like fullon physical cheating. >> Okay. >> Um, but yeah, it was like messaging girls and saying things that you shouldn't be saying while in a relationship. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Meline>> And you were you completely faithful? >> Yeah. Yeah. When we were in a relationship, I I had never >> Were there other guys during the breaks? >> Um that I had talked to. Yeah. I genu

MelineYeah. >> Okay. Good times. Was it toxic? >> Uh yeah, definitely. I would say so. >> Were you toxic? >> I had some moments. I was not perfect. >> Yeah. What did you do?

MelineUm, I think I would argue I like my biggest regret was just not leaving and wanting to prove my point. I think I should have just stuck to my morals and just left and that would have been better for me.

Brian Atlas>> Gotcha. All right. Uh, and are you Christian? >> Uh, yes. I'm Catholic. >> Catholic. Okay. Uh, anybody else here religious? You know, religious? What What do you What are you >> Christian?

Brian Atlas>> What are you? >> Seek. Seek. Okay. Seikhs are dope. They're legends. What? >> I just I just believe in God. I don't >> You're the Mormon. You You're Catholic, right?

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> Yeah. I follow God. Christ. I don't really have a label. >> Oh, I thought you said you're >> I mean, Catholic Christian is I guess what you could classify it as, but not to the certain traditions and things like that. >> I would say, sorry.

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> Not to certain traditions. What do you mean? Like I just don't agree with a lot of what the the propaganda the churches have implemented like on top of things that are >> such >> to start like that are not in the Bible

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> such as what >> I think that there's a lot of top topics and things that have been added in over time that are excess that are not that are like detering deterring away from

Amelia (Phlebotomist)the main point which is your relationship between you and God. So I don't go to church as often as I do. If I do, like I said last time I was here, I'll go to Catholic mass, but I don't agree with all the things that they say. I don't like a lot of the politics that

Brian Atlasthese churches do. >> What politics? Cuz there's different politics in various churches and denominations. >> This is true. Um, I think that

Amelia (Phlebotomist)well I think that certain churches like the one that I attend in Santa Monica support abortion which I think is in direct contradiction to what I believe and what the Bible states.

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> So for that many other Catholic church do as well as well as Presbyterian all denominations of Christianity unfortunately. >> Wait, the Catholic church you go to is pro pro-abortion?

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> Yes. This is in Santa Monica. So, this is if I have to go, I'll go with my grandma cuz she enjoys it and that's all right. Um, you know, >> yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, my understanding of Catholicism, >> it's a lot different than that and so is

Brian Atlasmine. So, that's why I'm saying I don't fully claim the label because that's just one example as well as having pride flags outside of churches. >> Well, well, I think the mainstream Catholic position on abortion is they're against abortion.

Amelia (Phlebotomist)>> True. But I haven't been able to find a church yet that supports that's just baseline Christianity, you and God, not all this other BS put in place. >> Doesn't the look, I don't really know all too much about Catholicism, but Well, you're Catholic, right? Doesn't

Brian Atlasthe >> Can't the the higher up you go, I don't know like what it would be called the Arch Dascese or even going up to the Vatican, the Pope, whatever. Couldn't

Brian Atlasthe the pope like revoke your ability to be a Catholic church or kick you? I don't know how that would work actually. >> Well, there's excommunication, but

Melinethere's like very strict procedures and protocol behind that. Um, in this case, I'm not really sure. I've never heard of any like Catholic priest

Melineor anyone who's Catholic that preaches like talking in support of abortion. Um, you could probably tell the the dascese.

MelineUm, I'm not sure which one you would belong to if you're in Santa Monica. Uh, but you could tell the dascese because they're not supposed to be sharing anything that's against doctrine. You can have different like interpretations

Melineof certain things, but if it goes against church doctrine, then that shouldn't be what they're doing. So, it's my understanding. I'm not completely sure. So, >> interesting. Okay. Uh, you wanted to weigh in on this? Oh, um I was just

Lola Goldgoing to say that I resonate the most with the Buddhist teachings, but I'm not practicing. I just I believe in good karma and potentially reincarnation if you're well behaved. >> All right, there you go. There you go. Okay,

Brian Atlas>> everybody's got to have some kind of comfort, I feel, in this crazy world. And yeah, >> Mary, can you Google uh Super Bowl score at the moment, please? >> Uh so it looks like they're it's it's

Brian Atlasending actually pretty soon, it looks like. So, uh, or wait, no, they're in, sorry, they're in the third, right? >> No, it's fine. You don't have to. They're in the third quarter. Seattle

Brian AtlasSeahawks leading nine to zero. Wow. Pretty uneventful game so far. Um, but uh, yeah. Anyways, I don't know what I am going to do. One

Brian Atlasof the topics we have that might take a bit of time is maybe some of you are aware, maybe you're not. There's a recent massive controversy kind of on on X on Twitter with this conservative

Brian Atlastraditional pundant who we've actually had on the show before named Sarah Stock. Now, because it's uh probably some of our audience is currently split watching the Super Bowl, I'll probably

Brian Atlasgoing to wait to address all the Sarah Stock drama. I'll wait maybe until 7:00 p.m. Pacific. I think the Super Bowl ends around 6:30, so maybe 7 7:30 we'll

Brian Atlasget into the Sarah Stock drama. But just for the table, for those watching, as a I guess a teaser for what we're going to get into, Sarah Stock, this girl who

Brian Atlascame on the show, uh she was Catholic, Christian, conservative. Uh claimed on the show, she was on like two years ago, that she was waiting for marriage, that

Brian Atlasshe was a virgin, blah blah blah blah blah. turns out and she got married. She got married uh couple months ago. Turns out she was cheating on her husband.

Brian AtlasWell, now husband, I don't think they were married at the time, but they were together. She was cheating on her, I guess, boyfriend, fiance, whatever it is. cheating on her boyfriend and then

Brian Atlasuh with her boss and he was married or is married with children and they're both Catholic or he's Orthodox, she's Catholic. She lied to her h now husband that she was a virgin

Brian Atlasand she's waiting for marriage. She's making her husband, excuse me, well, her now husband, soon to be ex-husband, wait for marriage to have sex. Meanwhile,

Brian Atlasshe's getting cracked by her married with children boss. Very complicated situation. We're going to dive we're going to dive massively into that, but I'm going to wait a

Brian Atlaslittle bit as some more viewers trickle in once the Super Bowl ends. But that's the teaser for it. So, um, and I'm sure you guys will have opinions and thoughts on all of that. What we're going to do

Brian Atlasnow is I'm going to get into some of the pre-show notes that you guys provided. So, uh, that's one of the no-shows. So, we can just whatever. Nope. Um,

Brian Atlaslet's see here. One sec, guys, while I get this going. We did Oh, actually, before we do that, the I I wanted to do a follow-up question on

Brian Atlasuh the people here who are single, which is most of you. Um, what does it actually mean to be single in 2026? You've been single for a year, year and

Brian Atlasa half. Single for a year and a half. Single for a year. Uh, complicated for like a month or whatever. Single for 6 years. >> Wait, that was you, right? >> I don't know. Like a month. I'm six years.

Brian Atlas>> No, you've been single for one month. You've been single for 6 years. Uh, single for 5 to 6 months for you. So, what does that mean, though? What does it mean to be single? Uh, so I guess perhaps some clarifying questions. Is there a guy in the picture currently in

Brian Atlasany capacity? Wait, wait, wait, hold on. I actually wrote out I need to be more detailed on this. One sec. Hold on. Let me find it. Okay. Because for example, somebody could say they're single and be

Brian Atlaslike sleeping with one, two, three other people. I'm single, >> but I don't have the title. >> You're technically not in a relationship. Right. >> Right. So, you're technically not in a relationship. So, you're single, but you're getting smashed out, >> right?

Brian Atlas>> By, you know, one, two, three people. Uh, this would apply to men, too. Men can claim to be single, but they're [ __ ] you know, whatever. three chicks, are you really single? Um, so

Brian Atlashere's the question. Here's a question that you have to ask in 2026. You can't just ask somebody, whether you're a man or a woman, are you single anymore? You can't rely on that to give you an answer

Brian Atlasthat you can really draw any information from. Because I think that, how do we say, uh, people are not going to be particularly forthcoming about h they can be, but they're not going to be

Brian Atlassuper forthcoming. So, here is the question. Uh, I had a lawyer assist me in drafting this cuz we got to close the loopholes. We can't let loopholes

Brian Atlasas a man or a woman. You don't want loopholes. Okay. Are you presently engaged in or have you at any time during the relevant period of time we've been talking been engaged in any form of

Brian Atlascommunication, association, interaction, or relationship with any other male individual or individuals? Whether romantic, intimate, sexual, or otherwise, be it casually or seriously,

Brian Atlasincluding, but not limited to dating, meetings, sneaky links, hangouts, chilling, kicking it, ongoing contact or

Brian Atlasinvolvement of any kind, whether conducted in person or or through electronic means, including text messages, direct messages, dating applications, social media platforms, or

Brian Atlasany other form of digital or written in communication. >> Wow. >> I think that's pretty thorough. I think you can't just say, "Are you single?" >> All you covered it all. >> You got to ask that question.

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> In 2026, >> I have a worse one, too. >> Should I read the twice as long one? >> Go for it. Go for it. >> All right. Here we go.

Brian AtlasAre you currently or have you at any time during the applicable or relevant period of time directly or indirectly engaged in, participated in, maintained, initiated, responded to, or otherwise

Brian Atlasbeen involved in any communication, contact, association, interaction, arrangement, understanding, or relationship of any nature whatsoever with any other male individual or individuals. Whether such involvement is

Brian Atlascharacterized as romantic, intimate, sexual, emotional, or otherwise, including but not limited to, dating, courtship, companionship, repeated or isolated encounters, continued correspondence, or ongoing or

Brian Atlasintermittent contact, regardless of frequency, duration, or intent. Such inquiry expressly includes without limitation any form of in-person interaction or any form of communication

Brian Atlasconducted through electronic, digital, written, or recorded means including but not limited to telephone calls, text messages, multimedia messages, emails, direct messages, private messages, smoke

Brian Atlassignals, or exchanges on or through dating applications, social networking platforms, messaging services, forums, websites, or any other present or future communication medium, whether public or

Brian Atlasprivate, initiated by you or by other the other party, and whether reciprocated, acknowledged, or unagnowledged. >> Guilty as charged. >> I don't like that one, actually. I think it's faulty.

Meline>> You think it's faulty. Why is that? >> Well, you started it by saying during the applicable or relevant time, which is up to interpretation, and the other person could could use that to their

Brian Atlasadvantage. And yeah, it's just kind of relative. Well, I suppose it depends when you're asking this question, but um yeah, >> what changed that on yourself?

Brian Atlas>> I think it's pretty strong. I think it's very strong. Uh so, is there a guy in the picture under this framework? >> Yes, I I'd say so. >> There we go. Okay, I guess. >> Um what does that mean? What does that

Indiemean? >> In what context? Uh, the guy in the picture, >> what about him >> is he Are you What do you you guys hooking up? What's the deal? >> Um, sort of.

Indie>> Sort of. >> Sort of. Yeah. >> How long have you guys known each other? >> Maybe like five months. Couple months. Yeah. >> Five months. >> And have you been hooking up for that

SPEAKER_04period of time or? >> No. No. >> How did you guys meet? >> At school. >> At school. Okay. And um

Brian Atlasis are there other guys in the picture besides him? >> No, I wouldn't say so. >> Do you guys live together? >> No. >> How when's the last time you saw him? >> Uh like two days ago.

Indie>> And was there a sleepover? >> It was a group hangout. >> An orgy? >> No. >> Wow. Okay. >> No. No. No. Um no. >> Okay.

Brian AtlasYeah. Um, >> are you on any dating apps? >> No. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Um, and then, uh, >> I have a question for you. >> Yeah.

Indie>> Would you consider, um, someone who is like in a talking stage or, you know, sleeping with someone else, would you consider that person to be single? >> Which one? uh the person who's,

Indie>> you know, in a talking stage or sleeping with someone without a relationship label. Would you consider them to be single? >> They're not in a relationship, but I don't think they're single. >> Okay. So, what would you categorize that as >> in a situationship? >> A situationship. Okay. >> Talking stage.

Brian Atlas>> Right. Right. >> Not single though. >> Not single. >> I think if I think if another man's penis has been inside you within the past fortnite, 14 days, >> two weeks, >> what if it What if it wasn't sex? >> You're not single, huh? >> What if it wasn't sex? Like what if it's

Brian Atlasjust like >> will count too? Still 14 days. >> What if it's just like a talking thing like um would you consider someone >> also count towards that? >> Oh, okay. >> Hand job. Not that a guy should ever want a hand job. What's the point? >> Oh, okay. What about if you had just

Indiebeen on a date? >> Like I'd rather date at Yeah. Like a date or just like even like >> texting, you know, talking on the phone, hanging out, just Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I think No, then you could

Brian Atlasprobably claim single if you've been on a date with a guy. What about multiple >> heavy petting? It's a gray area. If there's heavy petting, gray area, kiss, probably still single,

Kal Pit>> but is it the second date, the third date? Yeah. I don't know. >> I don't think situationships are real. I think the person just doesn't like you that much. Like either you're single or you're not. There's either a label or there's not. >> What about that like beginning talking

Kal Pitstage before you're when you're getting to know someone, before you're like ready to fully commit to a relationship? >> Yeah. Right. But that's I wouldn't say that's a situationship, right? cuz this isn't a situationship where you do like relationship type things but with no label and you guys don't even talk about

Indieit. >> But I challenge that to say like some people maybe aren't in the right headsp space for a relationship or not looking for a relationship. >> Yeah. So I feel like they don't want to fully commit to a >> I feel like that's just friends with

Kal Pitbenefits. Like you guys are just hanging out. I wouldn't call that like a situationship. >> What would you call a situationship? >> I don't I don't think that's real. Like I think if if you're talking to someone and they're also talking to you, but they don't want to date you, but they

Brian Atlasclaim to like you, like they're just not that into you, I feel like. >> Mhm. >> What about you? You got Is there a guy in the picture in any capacity

Vicki Sunwhatsoever? >> No. Well, it was kind of similar to what she mentioned earlier. Like I don't have any like situationships or anything going on. I'm just single and I don't know, focusing on myself, doing the

Vicki Sunthings I like. >> When's the last time you were uh you hung out with a guy where you you at least liked him, let's say.

Vicki Sun>> Okay. Well, actually like a month ago. Like it was kind of like a like a friends with like we were friends. It was kind of like we were >> friends with benefits. >> Friends with benefits. But

Brian Atlas>> um >> yeah. And how long were you guys uh seeing each other? Friends with benefits, I guess. >> Um like three months. >> Three months.

Vicki Sun>> Yeah. It was like Yeah. He um just wasn't ready for a relationship and I respect that. But that's like adding on to what she said like they probably just didn't like me as much. So >> there's Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Were you dating other guys at the time? >> No. >> Was he dating other girls? >> No, it was we weren't like that. But yeah. >> How would you know though? For sure. Did he tell you he was exclusive to you or whatever?

Vicki Sun>> Yes. And I mean through observation you can kind of just tell if someone were to be seeing other people and it just didn't seem like that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um

Vicki Sunand uh Okay. So, did you say I love you to him? >> No, absolutely not. There's I think there's some things that like I draw the line with between like um someone I'm

Vicki Sunjust seeing or someone that I'm dating. Like I'm not gonna um We also didn't crack. Like I'm not going to um do that to with someone that >> You were friends with benefits. >> But you didn't have sex.

Vicki Sun>> We I don't hook up with people. That's something about me. But we >> What do you mean by that? >> Like I don't I'm not just going to Well, going to UCSB, there's a lot of parties, you know, the life there. I'm not just going to find a random guy at a party

Vicki Sunand take them home and then crack them from there. Um I get I want to take the time to like get to know someone. So during that period it was kind of like kind of like working up to it but we

Brian Atlasjust never got there and then Yeah. >> Okay. Um so wait you were friends with benefits but you didn't have sex

Vicki Sun>> but there was like other to it like I don't think like you have to Okay. Well, if you have to have sex to be friends with benefits, then I guess you could say we weren't friends with benefits, but it was like a situation kind of thing going on.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> Yeah. I don't know if they're watching right now, so I'm not trying to say too much. >> I I guess my confusion is if you're friends with like he didn't want more. So, what was it that you were building

Vicki Sunup to? Well, he was kind of figuring out if he wanted more during the time that we were talking and then like when he realized it wasn't. Um, it happened very abruptly. That's why like it caught me off guard cuz up until that point like

Vicki Sunwe were like sleeping together and like we were like hanging out, sleepovers, blah blah blah. >> Wait, when you say sleeping together? >> Not like having sex, but like we there was like other, you know, it just Yeah, but >> I'm sure the girls can know like what

Kal PitI'm talking about. >> Third base or Huh? Huh? Are you saying like third base? >> Third base? >> Like third base is like oral. Second base is like petting and mess like hand stuff. First base is like making out.

Brian AtlasFourth base is like >> No answer to that. Okay. But >> yeah, I'm not trying I don't want to say that out loud, but >> yeah. No, I understand. >> Okay, I think we understand. Um Okay,

Lola Goldthat's interesting. Um Huh. What about you? Um, so I enjoy sex.

Lola GoldUm, I the sex that I have with guys is on camera and off camera. So the only men that I have on my platform with me are

Lola Goldguys that I have dated before. So yeah, I I'm known as hard to get in the industry cuz I don't actually do commercial porn. >> Interesting. Okay. >> You won't find me anywhere. So go to the

Brian Atlaslink. >> Oh okay. Uh question for you though. So during this period of time when you were seeing this guy you were friends with benefits partial benefits I guess >> partial. Yes

Brian Atlas>> partial benefit half benefits quarter 3/4s benefits. Uh you were would you have described yourself as single?

Vicki Sun>> Um lowkey no. Like I didn't I wasn't open to talking talking to anyone else. And if someone asked me if I was like seeing anyone, I'd be like, "Oh, like I'm talking to someone, but like we aren't together." So, okay.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I wouldn't categorize myself as single during that period. >> I see. Uh if a guy, say a guy who you thought was attractive walked up to you and hit on

Brian Atlasyou or whatever, uh would you turn him down? Like say, "Oh, sorry. I'm seeing somebody." >> Yeah, actually I would. >> Okay. >> Is that unexpected?

Brian Atlas>> Wait, question on this. So, okay, moving. I guess I'm shifting the topic a little bit. So, you said, okay, you you were you >> the term you used was crack. Cracked. >> Cracked. >> Okay. Sorry. >> No, no, that's No, that's totally fine. >> Okay.

Vicki Sun>> Cracked. >> Uh, and it was 3 months. 3 months. No crack. >> When does one crack? >> Four months. >> What's that? >> Well, >> well, >> when do you crack? The first night.

Brian AtlasLike, I think it depends on like who where your boundaries are, you know? >> Oo, that's a good one. Wait, wait. It depends on who. Okay. It depends on where your boundaries are. It like for me I >> Have you ever cracked? By the way, just before let me let me start first. I've

Brian Atlascracked very quickly. >> Okay. See, and that's where your boundaries are. >> Very quickly. >> Uh I've cracked first first day, first couple hours. >> So I'm not going to judge you if you've cracked quickly. I've cracked quickly.

Lola GoldCracked. >> Why? >> They cracked. Who? Who? >> If there's an attraction going if there's But is it I cracked her? Did I get cracked? the one with the crack. >> Did she crack me? >> She cracked you >> and I cracked her. >> Yes.

Lola Gold>> Mutual crack. >> Say we cracked. >> You could have also been cracked >> depending on what she was using with you. Whether she carled it was caral knowledge. Okay. Um so three months. >> Yeah.

Vicki Sun>> What have you have you had carnal knowledge before? >> Um yes. And those were with my >> your boyfriend >> my boyfriends that I actually dated for both over a year after. So

Brian Atlas>> how long until they cracked? Um, I'd say Okay. No, that's fine. I'd say like um 4 months into the relationship. >> Four. Was it You said you had uh two boyfriends.

Brian Atlas>> Two boyfriends. >> Okay. So, the f the first one was four months. >> Yes. >> And then the second one was >> around the same time, like four or five months. >> Four months. >> Mhm. >> This guy really he was at the he was at the end of the finish line. This this

Vicki Sunmost recent friends with benefits. He just had one more month to go and you guys would have been there. >> Oh, you see no we weren't dating. We were never dating. Like I let I make my boyfriends wait a little bit too. Like I will not just crack them just because

Vicki Sunwe're dating. Like I met like four four months into the relationship, but with this recent one, we never even got there. So >> Oh, wait. So, okay. With the relationships, you're saying >> there was a period of time before you considered it the start of the

Brian Atlasrelationship when you were dating. Is that with your boyfriends? Is that what you're saying? >> Um, wait. Can you >> Well, you said you make your boyfriends wait too. And you said it was four months. 4 months about.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> But are you saying that okay there's a period of time before you're officially boyfriend girlfriend girlfriend >> correct >> where you were dating your boyfriends too >> also.

Brian AtlasSo like okay let's say you meet the person and then like a month in you're like we're boyfriend girlfriend. So would it be 5 months >> until the crack cracked cracking? Um, well, I don't I don't really consider

Vicki Sunlike the time I met them before. Like I just like I don't know. I don't have like a deadline. I don't think you put a time on it >> of the two boyfriends. >> Feel comfortable. >> How long did you

Brian Atlaslike hang out with them before they were your boyfriend? >> Like two three months each. >> Okay. So you got to add two to three months to the cracking. >> Okay. So like after waiting time period >> half a year >> half six months. Okay. So let's say Yeah. 6 months.

Brian Atlas>> Is that bad? >> Okay. So, he was three months away, this guy. He had >> he had another half of the race to go. >> Um. All right. Okay. >> Nothing's bad. It's just your own preference. >> It's your preference. Yeah. I think

Indieeveryone has different personal preferences. You can meet one person and be comfortable like having sex with them within like the first week of meeting them. And you can meet another person. >> That's so true. >> And then like need a lot more time getting to know them. You know, some

Brian Atlasconnections are just different. >> Yes. Um T Humble, thanks for the $100 super soup chat. Appreciate it, man. Thank you for your patronage. Thank you for the soup jam, man. Guys, W's in the chat for T- humble there. Thank you, man. Um, how long do you do you

Indietypically wait before the crackening happens? >> Um, typically I would say until I feel comfortable enough with that person that like, you know, I feel safe with them.

IndieLike, >> now can that happen within like 3 hours? >> No. Not for me? No. >> 24 hours? >> No. 48 hours. >> No, I mean I'm not going to like put a

Indietime limit on it and say like typically a couple months, but like >> But have you ever cracked quick? >> Like I've cracked I've cracked quick. >> I have I have >> quick crack, >> right? And I realized it wasn't for me. >> A quick crack >> and I realized it wasn't for me.

Brian Atlas>> It wasn't for you. Okay. What about you? How long do you typically wait before having carnal knowledge with >> I don't have like an like statistics on this. >> Well, I'm not looking for an exact amount. Obviously, it's going to differ

Brian Atlasa little bit from guy to guy, but like your recent boyfriend, uh your your current boyfriend, how long until he >> um I'm not going to give a timeline, but >> Correct.

Brian Atlas>> I always wait a while. >> Like 3 days or what are we talking >> like months? >> Months. >> Yes. >> Has that always been your standard? >> Yes. >> Really? >> Can I add something?

Indie>> Of course. I also don't think there's anything wrong with having casual sex. I think it's all personal preference and it's all what you are comfortable with and what your partner is comfortable with.

Indie>> I think Yeah, I think that there's no like you don't have to wait a certain amount of time. It's whatever you feel like your boundaries, your morals, whatever you feel is right.

Brian Atlas>> I slightly disagree. >> So, I think the quick crack is fine. >> Okay. >> You want a quick crack? >> Quick crack. Like, do you agree with that? You think that's fine? >> Well, I disagree with the casual part. I think if you sleep with somebody,

Brian Atlaswhether you're a man or a woman, there should be some >> moving towards let's >> a relationship. Like that should be even if it's you guys sleep together quick,

Indiethat should hopefully be the intention for both of you. >> I think it's personal preference, right? Some people can do casual sex. Some people can do casual sex. That's not me personally, but like some people out there like they're comfortable with that

Lola Goldand we call them hoes. >> The casual sex I have is with girls. The intimate sex I have is with men. So all of the filming I have with guys on my um platform is all intimate

Lola Gold>> cuz I don't want to have sex with a guy cuz guys don't know where to touch us >> in the right places at the right time. Do you need someone you can trust? >> You could teach him. Yeah, and I have,

Lola Goldof course. But like with with a woman, I think sex is more fun, casual, because >> nine times out of 10, >> we all know what we like and we all you know what you're doing. Even if you

Indiethink you don't, you do. You're Yeah. >> It's not It's not for everyone. Casual sex is not for everyone. But I'm not one to judge other people for what they do with their sex life.

IndieM >> I personally like my when talking about myself like that's not for me but I would never judge another woman for having just like a casual sexual

Indierelationship with someone else. >> What do you think about [ __ ] boys? >> Um just do your thing. Anyone you know [ __ ] boys is like a it's like a term right?

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