FAKE VlRGlN CONFRONTED?! Liar Claims She DOES NOT Have A BBL?! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #154

Date: 2024-04-22
Duration: 5h 55m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Jessica (project manager)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_04Jake(guest)
SPEAKER_05Alexa Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_06Bri(guest)
SPEAKER_07KJ(guest)
SPEAKER_08Ryan Abie(guest)
SPEAKER_09Jessica P(guest)
SPEAKER_10Jess(guest)

Key Moments

00:00:18
IntroShow intro. Brian Atlas welcomes viewers to the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast.

welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating

00:03:41
IntroBri introduces herself: from Miami, Panamanian, 'changing the world' by teaching men. Jake immediately challenges her philosophy.

Miami and um my occupation is changing the world

00:09:58
ControversyBri claims 'virginity is a mindset' — after Alaska epiphany she can choose to be a trans virgin. Brian coins the term. Jake challenges her biblically.

and my new revelation I had in Alaska virginity is a mindset okay

00:13:35
IntroGuest introductions: Jess (20, server/student, San Diego), KJ (24, sales, Texas), Ryan Abie (24, Texas, traditional), Jessica (28, project manager, Silicon Valley), Jessica P (21, pro-life activist, South Carolina), Jake (28, Australia, YouTuber).

I'm Jess I'm 20 and um I'm a server

00:23:06
IntroAlexa Morgan (35, virgin, oncology nurse) introduced. Brian is visibly shocked she's a virgin. 'That's the face she made — shocked the first time she ever met a real virgin'

are you a virgin I am yes oh perfect make that face again

00:23:06
Key MomentAlexa Morgan — 35yo virgin deep dive: explains her position, standards, faith. Brian asks: would she die a virgin? Alexa: 'If I can't find somebody then I will probably die a virgin and I'm okay with that.'

I think if I can't find somebody then I will probably die a virgin and I'm okay with that

01:02:00
Key MomentWho would you rather date? audience poll — Bri vs Alexa. Alexa wins 86% to 14% on YouTube; 80% to 20% on Twitch. Brian: 'Even though Alexa is 6 years older, she wins easily.'

86% 86% so Alexa won 86% to Bri and then over there on YouTube 8020

01:11:41
Key MomentBBL confrontation: Brian shows Bri's Instagram profile and old photos. Video shown appears to demonstrate pre/post body change. Audience poll: ~50% say she has a BBL. Bri: 'I never got a BBL. I got my boobs and my teeth done and my hair done.' Brian and Jake push back; Bri maintains denial throughout.

asked you I think if you had any lipo and if you had a BBL nope give me a break

01:15:22
QuoteBri: 'I got my boobs done I'll tell you that. I got my veneers done in Miami. I got my teeth done in Miami and I got hair extensions. But I didn't get BBL.'

boobs and my teeth done and then I would lie about having my butt done

07:19:11
ControversyBri's OnlyFans link found in her Instagram story less than 24 hours before taping — exposed as lying about quitting. Brian reads it out. Bri says she's 'quitting starting today.' Jake: 'Your grift has been exposed.' Brian calls her a 'pathological liar.' Bri argues she didn't ask them to pull up her Instagram.

link dude on your Instagram well I didn't say when I quit I quit now so so you're a you're a liar

07:29:21
QuoteJake calls out Bri's hypocrisy: 'You've come in here one side of your mouth saying you want to help men while on the other side you have that only fans still going. That's not only dishonest — that's actually malicious.'

you've come in here and you said I'm like a manifesting virgin or whatever

07:53:53
Key MomentBri put in the corner as show punishment. Brian: 'There you go. Think about what you've done.'

get in the corner there you go think about what you've done Bri okay

08:03:56
Key MomentJessica P debates Bri on abortion: life begins at conception; right to life precedes all other rights. Bri: anti-death penalty. Jessica P presses inconsistency: if you're anti-death penalty for guilty people, how can you be pro-choice for an innocent fetus?

human life biologically begins a conception so I think the right to life precedes any other right

Topics Discussed

00:00:07
Show intro and announcements

Brian's standard intro: support via streamlabs, TTS donations, memberships, merch, non-profit mention, disclaimer.

00:03:41
Bri's intro and philosophy

Bri introduces herself: from Panama, 'changing the world' by teaching men, formerly tried to be a teacher. Jake immediately challenges her on what her course teaches. Bri describes 3 pillars: spirituality (manifestation/prayer), physical, financial.

00:09:58
Bri's trans virgin claim / virginity is a mindset

Brian asks about prior virgin claim. Bri reveals Alaska epiphany: 'virginity is a mindset' — you can choose to be a virgin. Jake challenges biblically. Bri says sex = creation therefore non-sex = virginity. Brian coins 'trans virgin' framing.

00:13:35
Guest introductions round

All guests introduce: Jess (20, server/student, SD), KJ (24, sales, TX), Jessica (28, project manager, Silicon Valley), Jessica P (21, pro-life activist, SC), Jake (28, Australian YouTuber), Ryan Abie (24, TX, traditional).

00:15:32
Relationship status round

All guests describe current relationship status and longest relationship. Brian probes each. KJ almost got engaged at 19-20; Ryan single 6 months; Jess in talking stage 2 weeks; Jessica P longest relationship 2 months; Alexa never had a boyfriend.

00:23:06
Alexa Morgan: 35yo virgin deep dive

Brian discovers Alexa is 35 and a virgin — shocked reaction (makes 'face'). Extended discussion of why: Christian upbringing, waiting for right person, standards discussion. Jake joins on Christian perspective. Alexa's work as oncology nurse contextualized. Would die a virgin if right person never comes.

00:46:16
Dating app review segment

Brian reviews female dating app profiles with panel. Discussed which profiles they'd swipe on, what makes good/bad profiles, quirky self-descriptions as icks.

01:02:00
Who would you rather date? Bri vs Alexa poll

Audience poll: would you rather date Bri or Alexa? Alexa wins 86% on YouTube, 80% on Twitch. Brian notes Alexa is 6 years older than Bri but still wins easily.

01:11:41
BBL confrontation — Bri's surgical history

Brian pulls up Bri's Instagram profile on stream. Photos shown. Brian accuses Bri of having BBL. Bri denies: 'I never got a BBL.' Admits to boob job, veneers, hair extensions. Video shown appears to show pre/post change. Audience poll ~50% say BBL. Bri: 'Why would I lie about having my butt done when I'm honest about the boobs?'

01:32:12
Chivalry and traditional gender roles debate

Brian asks what women bring to first dates if they expect traditional treatment from men. Ryan defends chivalry as attractive. Panel debates whether 'looking nice' is specifically traditional. Jake argues women with liberal views still expect traditional male behavior.

01:32:18
Ryan Abie's dating app review

Ryan's dating app profile reviewed: she was drunk when friends made it; turned off after 1 week. Prompts: 'chivalrous' and 'TSA' (co-worker Tyler made those). Brian pushes on what she brings to dating relationship.

01:40:00
KJ's dating app review

KJ's dating app profile reviewed: 'first round is on me, guess my real name', 'key to my heart is fat margarita on the rocks', calls herself Mama. Jake says don't put jokes on profile. Brian asks KJ about commitment and marriage beliefs.

02:15:41
Body count reveals and double standard debate

Ryan states body count 5. Jess states body count 5. KJ disagrees with Brian's position that men can have high body counts while preferring low body counts in women. Extended philosophical debate about biological reasons, evolutionary logic, hypocrisy argument. Bri argues biology explains male higher body counts; Jake and Brian argue women's promiscuity is more damaging.

02:25:00
Pre-show notes discussion: Jess on feminist label

Brian confronts Jess who wrote 'feminist' in pre-show notes but walks it back. She doesn't want to debate feminism. Brian presses her; she refuses to engage. Brian warns he'll stop trying to engage her if she keeps stonewalling.

03:21:57
Men scared of commitment debate

Panel round: are men scared of commitment? Various answers. KJ says guys her age are scared. Brian presents divorce statistics (80% female-initiated). Panel says women mostly end their own relationships. Brian asks: could men's commitment hesitancy be justified by women predominantly ending things?

04:15:56
Marriage debate — KJ vs Brian

KJ disagrees with Brian's anti-marriage position. Argues marriage is a daily choice, love is a choice. Brian argues marriage doesn't bind women to stay, creates financial risk for men. KJ says if going in thinking of divorce you're with wrong person. Jess adds: strong love doesn't need a piece of paper (either way). Jessica (PM) adds legal argument: gay uncle's partner lost everything without marriage.

05:21:55
Intelligence self-rating round

Chat question: rate your intelligence 0-200 (200 = Einstein). Jessica P: 40-50. Jessica (PM): 120-130. Jake: 'we're all tens.' Brian: 5. Bri: declined.

05:24:08
Dating advice for men

Panel gives dating advice for men. Ryan and Jessica P: just have confidence / fake it til you make it. KJ: shoot your shot. Jessica (PM): find strong male role models; find someone who vibes with you in person. Jake: accomplishment breeds competence.

05:27:20
Dangerous jobs / wage gap discussion

Video shown: helicopter cell tower stacking. Brian and Jake argue male-dominated dangerous jobs disprove the wage gap narrative. Bri argues her truck driver father makes six figures. Jake says most men can't become 'top 1%' — Bri disagrees from Panama immigrant story.

05:49:08
Show outro and Twitch raid

Brian wraps up. Mentions $2,000 scam by David Spearman Stevens (Dubai). Bri promotes her Snap (123). Jake mentions Reality Based Podcast. Brian raids 82yo woman (Grandma) playing World of Warcraft on Twitch.

06:48:38
Makeup and deception debate

Before/after makeup transformation photos shown on-stream (women transforming dramatically with heavy makeup). Panel debates: is this deception? Jake draws parallel to man flashing borrowed Rolex. Brian argues makeup is like lying about your career. Bri says deception. Jessica P argues men's visual stimulation makes this understandable.

06:56:00
Bri's OnlyFans and course — Jake confrontation

Jake challenges Bri: she's taking money from lonely men via OnlyFans while simultaneously claiming she wants to help men for free. Bri: I don't post anymore. Brian: it's still up. Jake: your worldview is counterintuitive and sinister. Extended back-and-forth.

07:19:11
Bri's OnlyFans exposed — Instagram story confrontation

Viewer sends Brian Bri's Instagram story with OnlyFans link from <24 hours ago. Brian reads it out. Bri says she's quitting 'starting today.' Jake: 'Your grift has been exposed.' Bri: 'I didn't ask you to pull up my Instagram.' Extended confrontation. Brian: 'You're a pathological liar.' Bri put in corner briefly.

07:53:53
Bri put in corner

Brian asks Bri to stand in the corner and 'think about what you've done.' Show punishment for repeated disruption and dishonesty.

08:03:56
Abortion / pro-life debate

Jessica P debates Bri on abortion. Jessica P: life begins at conception, right to life precedes all other rights. Bri: anti-death penalty. Jessica P presses Bri on inconsistency. Jess (SPEAKER_10): pro-choice up to first trimester. Jake: pro-life position is intellectually indefensible to challenge because all biologists agree life starts at conception.

Transcript

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05:43:30
Jakecan cook brag about it a little bit you know slip it in there if you got a good relationship with your father slip that in there guys like hearing that [ __ ] if you got a good relationship with your brothers and stuff get it in there whenever I hear that stuff I'm like I'm
05:43:44
Jakelooking for it I'm always asking I'm always asking questions in a roundabout way to see if they've got a good relationship with their dad to see if they can cook to see if they they like to see if they're clean not tidy but
05:43:54
Jessica (project manager)clean one one advice I will give to women is like make it a monthly goal to master a certain dish on YouTube like just go and learn like your favorite dishes so every month you learn
05:44:04
Brian Atlasdifferent like and it it actually works well I'm not going to lie yeah oh uh question for the viewers on Twitch and on YouTube Nick could you put it Center cam so guys I don't know
05:44:16
Brian Atlasif you noticed we got a new table um unfortunately it like this is rough I'm not going to lie it's very rough wobbles and like and that's me and Nick like a fixed something to like a like a
05:44:30
Brian Atlasan anchor point or I don't know what to call it uh so it's wobbling less it was wobbling like way more than this I mean I'm just press dressing with my fingers now hold on let me do it here I'll do
05:44:40
Brian Atlasjust one finger just my just my one finger wobbles that much guys this I question for the chat though is this an acceptable amount of wobble for a table
05:44:53
Brian Atlascuz I spent money a lot of money on this table this is a big table what was wrong with the last table dude so okay so guys here's the here's the thing um this table has a
05:45:04
Brian Atlascenter base the issue with the previous table this one is 6 in it's still square but it's 6 in bigger on well each each
05:45:14
Brian Atlasside and it doesn't the previous table had legs on the corners they were a which is annoying for people on the corner so I thought okay let me get a table with a center thing so that people can put their legs in and they're not
05:45:27
Brian Atlasgetting those on the corner aren't getting [ __ ] this is much better I'm not going to lie but because it has a center [ __ ] thing it wobbles so chat is a table supposed to wobble this much chat Nick can you pull up the chat I
05:45:38
Jessica (project manager)can't see it you know what you need you need pipe stands is a table supposed to wobble this much a foot in more wobble this is crazy bro holy [ __ ] scar me yeah you get
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Brian Atlasyou get yeah you just need to in further in but what what stands I don't know is there something I buy on Amazon yeah it's it's like like one of those shower things sort of like that but what's it
05:46:03
Jessica (project manager)called what's the name of it I'll send you a one I've Got a Feeling would be a to so what it does is if anyone like pushes on it it'll be stable on each corner you just need four of
05:46:14
Brian Atlasthem get spin he strikes me as a guy who's good with his hands okay FM choke you out as well but but guys what do you think of the new table like aside from the wobble
05:46:25
Brian AtlasI mean you probably it's the same color so you guys probably can't tell but what do you you guys like the new table yes I will say as a as like a guest this is great that I don't have
05:46:37
Jessica (project manager)the leg right here because it's very awkward if you're in a dress yeah it's is beneficial but it is kind of awkward too because it's like you can't touch it now like we typically do three three three and with the other table it was
05:46:48
Brian Atlasalways like you couldn't fit three people but here I think it's pretty good we can fit three people on each side and it'll be better if we ever have a bigger panels which we sometimes do we aim for nine but uh I think this table better
05:47:01
Brian Atlasaccommodate it but this wobble is [ __ ] unacceptable so wait one so is it is this a normal amount of wobble boys wobble wob is this a normal amount
05:47:15
Brian Atlasof wobble the comments are so is it a normal amount of wobble boys okay uh the other thing Nick did were you able to pull up those dude's Instagrams the whole scam [ __ ] all right guys really
05:47:26
Brian Atlasquick I'm just G I already talked about the previous show um boys I got scammed if you know the story if you got were you able to pull it incognito okay bro
05:47:37
Brian Atlasthis guy scammed me for $2,000 I'm still looking for a lawyer why why you why you laughing Bri what' you get what hold on I'll tell okay I'm I'm not going to tell the whole story but I'm still looking
05:47:47
Brian Atlasfor a lawyer in Dubai who can go after these scammers who scam me out of $2,000 it's David Spearman and SRA
05:47:56
TTSStevens yep and David blocked me after I made my previous comment because you know if anybody can help me in any way I
05:48:09
TTSwould appreciate it I've looked into your scam problem and found a solution if youire me $5,000 I can put a claim into small claims court and you'll get it back if we win no cap thank you brother
05:48:22
Brian Atlasappreciate it I'm gonna send that right away um yeah man if anybody knows any lawyers in Dubai guys I got to get my money back I'm going to do this every
05:48:32
Brian Atlasevery show until this [ __ ] guy basically here I send him to $1,000 back in February he was going to help me get some uh like get a social media thing and then he never delivered he said it
05:48:44
Brian Atlaswould take a couple days never delivered excuse after excuse after excuse I asked him for a refund he refused he said he would give me a refund he didn't got
05:48:53
Brian Atlasscammed 2,000 bucks um I'll survive obviously but that's still uh you know princip [ __ ] up it's a principal of it it's [ __ ] up get it go after them why
05:49:03
Brian Atlasyou laughing Bri wait you know people in Dubai for sure sure yo she's been flued out there multiple times oh that was that was okay well that was I that was before you got you were on the show but
05:49:15
Briyou know some some peeps in Dubai oh yeah Bri you got to you got the connect you've been to have you been to Dubai no but 5K for the list of
05:49:25
Brian Atlasconnections oh yeah okay all right uh so if anybody can help me anybody if you can help me try to get my money back I don't know you're a [ __ ] lawyer in Dubai I don't know I don't know [ __ ]
05:49:38
Brian Atlasanyways GG well played to everybody it was I thought it was a good show I thought it was a good show one more thing one more thing one more thing no more
05:49:50
Brivirgins ban virgins no more virgins boom what wait we got two virgins here you can't say that no more virgins sorry done don't get don't you
05:50:02
Briknow your wor I do I was a virgin for 22 years and then Brian I came on here and Brian was like look I about to say Brian was like look where you need
05:50:15
Brito be in life all right guys I got to okay after last show me and Bri had carnal knowledge what I'm kidding oh my God I'm going to kill
05:50:26
Jessica (project manager)myself that's probably the mainest thing ever said sad
05:50:34
Brian Atlas[Music] just kidding um no more virin your time will come just kidding uh wait okay so guys those of you oh Nick can you pull
05:50:46
Brian Atlasup twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv whatever drops a follow drops a prime sub if you have one if you have Amazon Prime you can link it to your Twi twitch and uh support the show every
05:50:57
Brian Atlassingle month drop us a follow drop us a prime sub over there on Twitch thank you guys for all the support over there on Twitch we uh this might have been a viewer of record I don't even know guys so thank you so so much really appreciate all the support also guys you
05:51:08
Brian Atlasknow doing these shows is stressful you know I'm probably I'm starting to lose my hair guys so I'm going to need to go to Turkey pretty soon so I need all the support I need all the support I can get
05:51:19
Brian Atlasguys I need your patronage you know the stress of doing the show I'm my hair's just it's going to be it's receding so um guys you know you could come with me when to come get my nose done I'm a
05:51:31
Jakewarrior I'm a I'm a I get my nose done and then anyway uh you have beautiful nose do not nose do not touch your nose I'm just going to give a Shameless plug really quickly I've got my podcast which we've been working on for a while it's
05:51:44
Jakecalled reality based you guys can find that on Spotify Google podcast Apple podcast we got episodes with v ramaswami on there we have got Rachel Wilson we did an hour and a half with her destroying feminist she is the feminist destroyer and we destroyed feminist
05:51:57
Jakewe've got Andrew Wilson my whole interview with him amongst many others so reality based on Spotify Google Apple podcast and obviously rattlesnake TV just
05:52:08
Brian Atlassorry those of you I want to do the uh outro here so GG well played to the panel we are going to do right on Twitch so if you guys can hang out for just a sec uh last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for
05:52:21
Brian Atlastuning in tonight you could have been in anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who so generously supports or excuse me who super chats supports
05:52:31
Brian Atlasdonates to the show uh your patronage is immensely appreciated appr it uh without you guys we wouldn't be able to do the show because we almost never get any
05:52:41
Brian Atlassponsors so uh really appreciate it guys we will be live again Tuesday with our boy Jake here we got uh got some very good shows lined up but we'll be back live Tuesday 500 P PM Pacific any girls
05:52:54
Brian Atlaswho want to be on the show DMI whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara and then if you guys hang on here for just a sec Nick if you can pull up our favorite Grandma over there on
05:53:04
Brian AtlasTwitch guys those of you who are on I will be doing a raid I like to raid people who uh you know they have uh typically like smaller followers just to show them some love so um she's got
05:53:16
Brian Atlasabout 300 people watching right now she's 82 I think if I recall she's playing World of Warcraft we're going to do Nick can you pull it up uh so we're
05:53:26
Jakegoing to raid wo Grandma 78 oh my gosh eating her she's ready just when you think the perfect woman doesn't exist
05:53:38
Brian Atlaswhat yeah oh [ __ ] I sent the raid too soon sorry sorry twitch I didn't say goodbye what's her name think we got glowing she's playing World of Warcraft classic bro she's got a better streaming setup than we
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Brian Atlasdo well that's this the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life I'm I'm inspired right now that's someone's Grandma I'm trying to see if the The
05:54:04
Jessica (project manager)Raid went through can we get her on the F I'm trying bro I'm trying I'm trying to get it shout out to my grandmother she just celebrated her 79th birthday yesterday so oh happy did the raid go through happy birthday grandma Yeah I
05:54:17
Jessica (project manager)wonder did the raid go through I'm just checking here I'm waiting for her to be like who are all these people welcome whatever oh hi kids oh hi welcome whatever welcome whatever I love it wait
05:54:29
Brian AtlasNick could you check on Twitch if the audio make sure I get that V let me see boost believe oh my gosh she's playing World of Warcraft uh oh she's playing uh retail okay uh guys be
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Brian Atlasnice to her though uh oh I should have said that before I sent you guys over uh be polite you know don't don't don't uh be be nice to her she's a sweetheart so uh yeah anyways um cool cool we did the
05:54:54
Brian Atlasraid on Twitch uh I think that's it 07s in the chat let me just double check make sure okay we're all good uh yeah guys 07s in the chat 07s in the chat
05:55:07
Brian Atlassorry guys I'm just checking on one other thing what is going on sorry my YouTube's like bugging out over here what's going on with my YouTube what the hell awkward okay we're good all right 07s in
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Brian Atlasthe chat I hope you guys have a good night and we'll see you guys on Tuesday good night guys