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00:03:41Brihave the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead Bri I'm 22 I'm from
00:03:50BriMiami and um my occupation is changing the world
00:04:00Brian Atlaswelcome back um when you say changing the world what what are the mechanisms or ways that you're changing the world well I went to
00:04:11BriAlaska I had an epiphany I went to become a teacher and teach so that's howang is there a specific subject matter that you want to it's a lot do
00:04:22Briyou want me to get into it right now or later yeah you can do that okay so I decide I want to help people Everyone is seems to be struggling lately I want to help people so I'm
00:04:35Brian Atlasbecoming a teacher that's basically well you've just repeated what you've already said but so what what do you want to teach specifically I'm teaching how to
00:04:45Brian Atlasokay I'm teaching like how to elevate and become who you me who you to be okay but like so do you want to teach
00:04:56Brilike in elementary school high school college what everybody I'm teaching everybody it sounds like a life coach you be a life coach no no no that is not what I'm doing I'm not coaching I'm
00:05:07Brian Atlasteaching T have you do you have a syllabus we can look at yes oh it's it's ready to go yeah can you can you have somebody email
00:05:18Brian Atlasit to Nick so we can look at your syllabus okay I'll try tell tell your manager or something what's it what's your manager's name John John send over that syllabus we'll get we'll get [ __ ]
00:05:31Brian Atlaspeople to sign up for your sh your uh sorry sorry uh your uh your your course or whatever I'm not it's not a course oh do you have a target audience in mind target audience men yeah you have
00:05:43Briteaching credal what would you like to teach them oh gosh okay I want to teach men how to become who they need to be because a lot
00:05:52Briof men are struggling what do men need to be they need to be better how so well a a lot of men are talking about I feel like we don't hold men to the same
00:06:03Bristandard as we used to and that's causing a lot of problems so we need to go back to holding men to that standard what kind of Standards do men need to be held to you know like a man has always
00:06:14Briback in the past been the provider been there been like the lead role and now we're kind of like letting that go and it's kind of making like feminine men I would agree with you but what are the
00:06:27Brimechanisms that you're providing to make men provas again I'm teaching them you guing them I'm going to guide them on okay Brian
00:06:36Briyou remember my three husbands sadly yeah so you weren't here but I went on this whole rant about how I wanted three husbands and one for financial one for sexual one for
00:06:49Briphysical I mean one for financial sexual and emotional support emotional supp it's a lot to keep track of keep going yeah so I wanted three husbands but then I was
00:07:01Brithinking people were like saying I was crazy why so exactly it's crazy to hold one man to that standard because it's not what we do today anymore okay I see so when you thought think about your
00:07:14Jakeschool you're thinking you're going to have like one module for provider one module for sex partner and then people can choose their Niche and they can be one of those husbands to a woman no no they're going to learn all I'm making
00:07:26Brithe three husbands into one nuclear family type setup because it's true three husbands is a lot like how are you going to like okay who are you going to have sex with on Tuesday or [ __ ] like
00:07:36Brithat yeah like it's probably the six one yeah so it doesn't really make sense so why not hold man to that standard again
00:07:46Jaketo become the one so you've stated the outcome the objective of the course but what would be the it's not be their mechanism to get them there the teaching the teaching if you will yes what are the steps to there what are some of the
00:08:00Brithings you're thinking are the revolutionary ideas that you have that will help men become everything okay so physical they need to become conventionally attractive need to go to
00:08:11Bria gym need to eat healthy need to know how to communicate need to know how to flirt um emotional they need to know how to manifest they need to know how to be there spiritually how to guide women how
00:08:23Jakedoes a man manifest when you say manifest what does that mean sexual transmutation transmutation what's he sexually
00:08:34Brian Atlastransmitting no what do you mean by that I've never heard that are you talking about VD so you know Neal disease I'm I'm naive what you said like not STDs oh transmitting I thought you sexual
00:08:45Britransmission sexual transmiss transmission of sex STDs no when you have sex you manifest you just snitched on yourself it is the number one way to manifest and what does
00:08:58Brimanifesting mean to you when you say manifest mean creating reality okay cool creating life so you're creating creating life it is the number one way to bring something to life is to have
00:09:09Brisex it's literally creating so you think that the purpose of sex is to bring about children yesol so having sex is the number one form of manifestation so so you're going to teach men to have sex
00:09:22Jaketo manifest no it's true that's literally creating physical reality it's beautiful when you say you want to teach men to manifest are you teaching them to manifest children is that what
00:09:35Briyou're saying manifest anything they want but to be able to create children or create anything you're going to need the woman so I'm basically helping them
00:09:46Brian Atlashow to achieve anything they want through woman I'm not really understanding it Spencer choked me out before maybe it's a little compc last thing before we move on to the rest of the introductions uh okay so we're not
00:09:58Brian Atlasgoing to live I won't belabor it previous show you claimed to be a virgin oh yes I want to get into that virgin this is part of my community
00:10:09Briand my new revelation I had in Alaska virginity is a mindset okay so I think let's entertain this virginity is a mindset okay
00:10:20Brivirginity is a mindset you can just how now they're saying oh you could choose what gender you want that's ridiculous but you
00:10:27Brican she's trans virgin you can change's trans virgin you can if you can become whatever gender
00:10:37Jakeyou want to be why can't I become if I'm so I so I would saying I I'll get what you're saying that makes we were dead dead naming her but like dead virging her last last show it is on
00:10:50Brimy I've got a few questions for do you mind if I ask you the questions yeah okay um what do you mean by virgin what does that mean virgin is someone who is the p form of themsel and in what sense would
00:11:02Jakeyou be the purest form of yourself what are the indicators of that you haven't created anything that
00:11:11Briwhen you have sex you create without sex you're not creating so if anything virginity is bad and I can get into that I think virginity when I went to Alaska
00:11:23BriI thought about this this might be a little too much for people but I think it kind of goes you know how I was talk about Bible study and all that um I
00:11:32Jakethink Virginia kind of goes against the Bible what okay tell that to Mary um um okay so uh you don't have really a
00:11:45Jakedefinition of Virgin your definition of Virgin is having not created anything exactly and by anything do you mean life do you mean children creating anything anything you want so what do you create
00:11:55Briwhen you are when if you are not a virgin what what have you created nothing which the Bible is all about creation so again the so if you are a
00:12:08Jakevirgin you haven't created anything if you're not a virgin you have created something correct correct exactly okay so what have you created if you're not a virgin you have created physical reality bro she's trolling she's trolling I'm
00:12:20Brinot trolling and but okay wait so just answer the question though so you're not a virgin I have decided virginity is not the mind that I want to put myself in
00:12:31Brian Atlasright now so but you've had sexual intercourse Cardinal knowledge I have decided in Alaska that virgin decided in Alaska this these things happen in
00:12:42JakeAlaska you never been to Alaska virgin like [ __ ] into the wild she goes into a bus eats some poisonous Beres sorry Brian's never been to Alaska keep going I saw into the wild though
00:12:53Briyou can choose whether or not you want to be a virgin and I'm choosing now from now on I am not just say hypothe so now you're not you're choosing so you're
00:13:04Brian Atlaslike um you're a d transitioner like you you you transitioned from not being a Virg you weren't a virgin then you claimed virgin hood and now you're detransitioning cuz you were trans
00:13:15Brian Atlasvirgin but now you're not trans virgin it goes against my religious beliefs so it yeah what are those are you Christian
00:13:26Briokay it goes against that so I I think I'm going to go back to non virginity it's a
00:13:35Jessmindset okay I think maybe we should next what about you I'm Jess I'm 20 and
00:13:43Jessum I'm a server I'm sorry name age occupation and where you're from okay I'm a server and I'm a psych major at
00:13:53JessMira Costa and I'm from San Diego and you said you're 20 right yes what about you I'm Ryan I'm 24 I'm from Texas and I'm in
00:14:04KJsales I'm Jessica I'm 21 and I'm from South Carolina and I'm a pro-life activist let's go I'm KJ I'm from Texas
00:14:14Jessica (project manager)I'm 24 and I am in wholesale fashion I'm Cara I'm from San Diego I'm 35 and I'm a nurse I'm Alexa I'm 28 I'm from San
00:14:26Jessica (project manager)Diego originally but I live in Silicon Valley now and I am project manager can I ask a question pro-life activists like do you get paid for that yeah yeah I do like
00:14:38Jessica Pbut like what is the J J can you scoot your mic that way a little B that yeah I mostly do man on the street interviews so I go out and ask people what their opinions are on abortion and then show them the abortion procedure video and
00:14:49Jessica Ptake their response afterwards so a lot of people change their mind on abortion just knowing what it is and being educated about it so I just want people to know the truth so that they can make more life affirming decisions if you have more questions for you can ask them
00:15:02Jakelater go ahead with your intro Jake yeah my name is Jake I'm 28 I have a YouTube channel called rattlesnake TV got a podcast called the reality based podcast I'm from Australia but I travel around the world making content currently in
00:15:14Brian Atlasthe United States for a little while what did I miss AG 28 I said 28 that's about it it's me all right welcome everybody we're going to go around the table once more so what's everybody's
00:15:26Brian Atlascurrent relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married polycule sex cult whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest
00:15:39Brirelationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead currently building my Empire creating that doesn't answer the question answer the
00:15:50Briquestion like I said currently building my Empire I'm recruiting so that's how I was last time that's how I this time okay okay but this is a dating show why don't you tell us your answers to
00:16:02Brithe question am I currently married no but am I single I want to consider
00:16:10Brimyself I am building something so in the talking stage are you sleeping around not in a talking stage and I don't sleep around I don't
00:16:21Briagree with that so elaborate a bit I am currently creating my Empire I don't know how you want me
00:16:31Brito elaborate ran what like are you is there a man you text at night saying good morning or good guy thect someone you say I hope you have a great
00:16:41Briday there's not a man is there multiple there's an Empire say many of them wow Empire empire okay next
00:16:51Briperson you didn't really answer what's your longest relationship oh my longest relationship I don't think I'm going to identify with
00:17:02Bribeing in ever being in a Rel I know last time I said it was like five six years now like I said I feel like you can identify with the mindset you want to identify with and I'm going to identify with
00:17:14Brian Atlaszero what about the three husbands you're mentioning so the three hold on no no no no here's what we're going to do okay look if you're going to troll I'm not trolling okay I'm not trolling stop I'm
00:17:26Brian Atlasnot trolling if you're going to troll you to do a better job of it that's the thing it's so obvious that you're like it's too you lay it on too thick you lay it on too thick do you want to pull up
00:17:38Brian Atlasthe applications the what the applications no not really okay um but you're laying on the troll too thick and it's too obvious so look if you engage in good faith in excuse me in good faith
00:17:50BriI'll include you in the conversation but like I'm not inclined to like I don't want to engage with you on the troll level because then it's just like wasting time I'm not going to troll I you could pull up the applications it's
00:18:02Brian Atlasyou can't answer a question straight like it's it's always meanders and just answer the question straight okay it's cuz sometimes we have different ways of like our brain works differently I
00:18:14Bribelieve that my brain works differently you know clearly you know my brain works differently you watch the video I don't I don't dispute that but okay so just because I don't answer in the way you trolling is a game of push and pull so
00:18:27Jakeyou have to push a little pull a little bit push a little B I don't want her trolling to begin with but maybe a subtle if you're going to do a troll at least like you know I'm not trolling at all the worst part is that I'm if you're not trolling then that's that's not
00:18:40Brian Atlasthat's an indictment on you not us but yeah yeah I'm not going to come on your your relationship status I'm in a talking stage talking stage how long has
00:18:49Brian Atlasthat been going on um I want to say two weeks two weeks okay and longest relationship um about two years two years and so this talking stage how
00:19:02Brian Atlasdid you guys meet uh Bumble on Bumble okay so is it exclusive you though no okay so are you talking with other people um I'm not I don't
00:19:15Jessknow if he is um but I wouldn't be bothered by it if he was okay and your two-year relationship how did that end um I had two that were two years um
00:19:27Jessthe first one there would just wasn't love anymore so we decided to split up and the second one um do I have to fully disclose it no you
00:19:39Jessdon't have to if it's uh we just didn't get along sure all right what about you I am single single how long have you
00:19:46Brian Atlasbeen single for been single since last November so six months yeah 6 months longest relationship about 3 years three and a half 3 years why did that end well
00:19:59Brian Atlaswe were in high school and we went to different colleges so okay mhm and your relationship that ended 6 months ago how long was that one that one was about 2
00:20:09Ryan Abieyears why did that one end um well he yeah he cheated he cheated yeah did you cheat no was it a dead bedroom what does
00:20:18Jessica Pthat mean uh dead bedroom like you stop having sex oh no okay okay what about you I am currently
00:20:29Jessica Psingle uh my longest relationship was two months um and we broke up two months ago so your longest relationship was the
00:20:39Brian Atlasone that just ended is that correct okay two months and I think when you first reach reached out if I recall you were initially you were in that relationship yeah the first time I reached out I was
00:20:51Brian Atlasin that relationship something's changed since then um we'll get in we'll come I'll come back to that in a bit what about
00:21:00KJyou um I am in the talking stage for how long 1 month little over I'm sorry one little over what one
00:21:11KJmonth a little over oh one one month okay longest relationship um three and a half four years four years like in the middle okay how did you meet the talking
00:21:22Brian Atlasstage guy mutual friends are there any other guys in the picture no okay why did your four your relationship end he
00:21:30KJwas ready to get married and I was not you weren't how old you I'm 24 and I was 20 at that time when he was how old
00:21:41KJwas he he was 23 why was he so Keen to get married we had been dating for a long time he was just
00:21:50Brian Atlasready interesting y um he so he was when you guys broke up you were 20 and he was 23 yes okay so this was like kind of high school partial High School relation
00:22:03KJHigh School beginning of college yep okay and so did you otherwise like the guy I mean you're with him for four years yeah I
00:22:13KJliked him we started going downhill when it got to college so so the ring was a bit the last itch attempt to make it work was it yeah kind of I mean at my
00:22:24KJcollege that I went to is very like ring by Spring was the big motto thing there so it was kind of a rush a lot of people get married like really quickly I'm this
00:22:34Brian Atlasis total nonse is everybody here everyone here is white or are you Latina I don't know I'm Hispanic okay I am black I'm half oh half okay all right
00:22:45Brian Atlassee we got a little bit of uh diversity I was about to say it's like damn normally we have a little diversity going on but uh okay what about your
00:22:54Alexa Morganrelationship status um I'm currently single all right right and how long have you been single um I've never really had a defined relationship I've dated but on
00:23:06Alexa Morgandates maybe the longest time I've dated somebody was a month but okay never had a boyfriend if I have it correctly looking at my show notes Here mhm um so are you
00:23:18Brian Atlasare you a virgin I am yes oh perfect make that face again make that face again that's the face she made she
00:23:28Brian Atlasshocked the pre the first time she ever met a real virgin the trans virgin and you're 35 correct I am 35 okay so you're
00:23:39Brian Atlas5 years away from being 40 being cast in the female version of The 40-Year-Old Virgin yes um so is it for religious reasons or
00:23:51Alexa Morganum well I think it's more because I just haven't found the right person I'm comfortable with um I do want to be with somebody that I'm about to be married with but it doesn't have to be in a
00:24:02Brian Atlasmarriage just somebody I feel um that I can see myself marrying okay um so you're you're not opposed to having
00:24:13Brian Atlaspremarital sex but you'd want it to be the person that you foresee like strong likelihood of this being like the person that you will marry correct yes okay and
00:24:24Brian Atlaslike do you have a sense of would you I mean is there like you want to wait a year or is it just kind of wait and see how you feel with this new guy or more of like wait
00:24:37Alexa Morganand see how I feel I want to feel safe um I want to feel um comfortable um that I trust him and um that we're in a good
00:24:48Brian Atlasspace okay so you are virgin but you're not waiting until marriage but if I do have this correct the reason you are waiting uh or you are virgin for like
00:24:59Alexa Morgankind of religious reasons kind of or cuz you're Christian right I am Christian yes yes I I know I don't I really don't know how to um answer that
00:25:11Alexa Morganquestion honestly but it was initially because I wanted to wait until marriage but reality dating and whatnot has um kind of yeah in a it does make
00:25:24Jakesense though you're a virgin so initially those convictions were because of the religious aspect but now you're it doily to get married if you it me to be at least close to
00:25:36Alexa Morganmarriage because I do um want to save myself for that person I'm giving a gift to him and I want him to respect that makes sense makes sense is it quite jarring when you go like for the guy when you go on a date with someone and they and you tell them that if you do
00:25:49Alexa Morgantell them that on a date yeah yeah there's been some interesting experiences where I've told somebody do you find that it's a positive reaction no oh really no it's been very negative yes I'm surprised by that I know I've
00:26:00Alexa Morganhad multiple arguments with guys about this actually they just like I wish you had have been I wish someone else would have [ __ ] my life someone was saying I put
00:26:09Alexa Morgansex as um a standard like I put it on a pedestal and I was like I don't see it that way at all I I honestly not that at all um the complete opposite I put
00:26:21Alexa Morgancommunication and values above that and then afterwards possibly sex um compatibility but but I I I when I was arguing with this guy he says well
00:26:32Alexa Morganyou're putting it on a pedestal and you're um admiring sex more than that so that's where it should be so you said the longest period of time
00:26:43Brian Atlasthough that you've dated a guy is one month how long ago was that that was two years ago and when you say you dated in for one month like how
00:26:53Alexa Morganmany actual times we went five dates over the course of five days a month yeah was he also a
00:27:01Brian AtlasChristian uh no he was not would you um are you wanting to date a man who's a virgin or that you don't really care no I don't that doesn't matter to me no
00:27:13Alexa Morganokay I just want him to respect my wish an atheist I have dated an atheist or have been on dates with an atheist could you see yourself with an
00:27:22Alexa Morganatheist no not really I think that would lead to too many arguments and I I value my relationship with God more than actually being in a relationship but you said the longest consecutive period of
00:27:35Brian Atlastime you've dated somebody was one month and that person was an atheist correct no he was not an aist he was not an atheist he was agnostic oh well I mean
00:27:45Brian Atlasit's not too far away from each other but um I mean why bother if I mean it seems like you have pretty set values in terms of what you're looking for I mean why waste your
00:27:57Brian Atlastime I mean the longest period of time that you have dated somebody was an agnostic I mean um I'm just a little confused
00:28:06Alexa Morganthere no wa repeat the question Brian well are you're on dating are you on any dating apps at all have you ever been yes I have um I just I don't not like
00:28:18Brian Atlasthe dating apps at all um well so you're 35 right and and um I guess to be 35
00:28:28Brian Atlasand to have never even had a long-term relationship I'm curious as to why um are men not approaching you are men not interested is it a per could it potentially be you perhaps your
00:28:41Alexa Morganstandards unreasonable what's your assessment of your situation I think there's a lot that goes into it for me um it's just not one particular answer I know I need to work on things myself I
00:28:53Alexa Morganknow there's things that I have done wrong um that probably have led me to be in this stage um that um more so not
00:29:02Alexa Morganputting myself out there not going out and you know to bars or whatever to meet people I mean I've seen a man and I have not approached them when I should have um I could have put myself in a good
00:29:14Alexa Morgansituation where I could have met someone that way um I think standards too I don't know the difference though between standards and being shallow um that's the thing I struggle with because um I I
00:29:28Alexa Morgandon't know if my standards are too high or am I'm shallow so always come well what what are those why we get into that what are those the standards yeah I mean is that your own self assessment of
00:29:38Alexa Morganyourself that you yeah yeah I mean I that that you have high standards or that you're shallow or both you're unsure people tell me I'm shallow and I always question that I was like why am I shallow if I have these certain
00:29:50Alexa Morganstandards but I feel like these two are interchanged between having hi standards and being shallow and like which one is it you know what are the standards yeah what are the standards what are the key standards um my standards is at least
00:30:02Alexa Morganthey need to be open to the relationship with God um I do not like the idea of them having multiple body counts with women um of strong family values um so you expect a man who is how
00:30:17Jakeold um the youngest I would date somebody is probably 30 um when you say body count do you mean like Oh How high oh um cuz the time a GU if a guy's single and 30 and like single single
00:30:31Alexa Morganhasn't been divorced or whatever then he's prob probably going to rack up a bit of a notch count that's that's a deal breaker um if he has a high body count absolutely cuz I just don't think he's valuing relationship what about if he has a high body count but he's come
00:30:43Brian Atlasto Faith later in life that would be different then I would I would definitely um what what's the cut off what's the cut off for a body for a guy oh man I haven't really thought about that but but I'm I'm a little I mean I
00:30:55Brian Atlaswould like to perhaps get a little further in here because you said people have accused you or perhaps your own self assessment is that your standards your standards are too high or that
00:31:07Brian Atlasyou're shallow but you kind of have prefaced I and I don't know if you got there yet you've said they you you want them to have a relationship with God and have good F family values and not be
00:31:19Brian Atlaspromiscuous it's not clear to me if any of those so far are shallow so can you state the standards you have which you can consider to be shallow H okay um I
00:31:30Alexa Morganlike them to be a little taller than me I'm 5'4 so anybody taller than 5'4 for me is great um okay so what minimum height for the guy
00:31:41Alexa Morgan5'6 I think that's pretty pretty fair that's pretty reasonable what else um I don't want a gy bro I do want somebody
00:31:49Alexa Morganthat is kind of um fluffy active yeah Dad bod dad bod I like the dad bod look um but not overweight um I do like them
00:31:59Alexa Morganto have um a clean look as much as like a not a big beard or long hair um okay we get into the wads
00:32:10Brian Atlasnow wait okay so clean we'll say clean cut mhm uh you don't want what if he's just like physically fit I'm sure you're fine with that right that's fine when you say Jim bro you don't want someone
00:32:22Alexa Morganwho's too self-obsessed is what you're saying right their life is not the gem yeah huh okay um anything else well I wish I could show you like on the dating apps what I've shown my girlfriends when
00:32:33Brian AtlasI'm swiping and are your girlfriends um religious sounds like they're atheists yeah no they're continue with your point show us on the dating apps what when I've been on the dating apps and I've shown my friends the guys have been preferencing it's always constantly I'm
00:32:45Brian Atlasjust swiping the left and they're like well what about this guy what about this guy and I'm like that's interesting that would actually be a really interesting segment on the show where we like pull up just a blank dating app and like we have the girls
00:32:57Brian Atlasokay you're going to swipe through 20 guys and we're going to see how you like just based on looks that's actually which guy do you just based on like looks or whatever their Prof would
00:33:09Brian Atlashelp guys too that's actually really yo somebody's going to jack that one hold on wait uh I I how do I write this down hold on yeah Nick wait uh like
00:33:20Alexa Morgandating apps swiping on dudes I honestly think it be men's dating apps is a good way it would be super beneficial I think for the men to to see what women are looking for because I've always thought
00:33:31Alexa Morganlike oh if I had like my own business I would definitely like help men on the their dating apps to show them like okay here's what you need to do this is what you work I feel like dating apps can be pretty useless for a man though to be
00:33:42Jakehonest the the standards on a dating app compared to real life are just so warped girls are so picky they did some studies showing what girls are looking for and what guys are looking for and the women T the women got a list of about 300
00:33:54Jakethings it was a big crosssection and and the guys said three they want them to be sweet they want them to be kind they want to be attractive and the the women had a list of about 300 I don't have a
00:34:04Brilist of 300 no because guys just want go on there for sex girls go on there to find their husband which think there's some there's some strumpets you could criticize guys for
00:34:17Jakethe way that they go on dating apps to just have sex but most girls just go on there just for attention there just for a bit of dopamine they'll just they'll just they'll just swipe and see see oh he likes me he likes me he likes me he likes me also for a lot of men you can say that they just want a peaceful girl
00:34:30Jessica (project manager)they have less criteria for what they're looking for so they're more open to what the physical body image is or what her work you know profession is they don't care as much as women have a stance on for no I have a lot of guy friends and
00:34:43Brithey show me their dating apps like oh she's fat nope oh she nope that's what they think bro you're on yachs in Miami that's you're like your Social Circle is so warped no offense and and the the data is very clear on this they've done
00:34:55Jakelots of studies on dating apps and they show how much men are swiping around compared to women and it's so warped it's it's ridiculously men want to have sex with anything well I mean if you're criticizing men you then have to level
00:35:07Brithe same criticism women for women think that they're going to find their prce Charming on there think women are there like a little fluty dress like oh I'm going to find my prince CH that's what they're doing on dating apps yes they're basically going on they're like I want
00:35:20Jaketo find my husband I'm going to get married oh my gosh I want somebody to come save me from yes that's what my friends you they're sitting there in their bedroom little Damsel in Distress just yeah they're like oh my gosh someone come save me I don't want to
00:35:31Brian Atlaswork anymore someone or or are they dating like five guys at the same time they should be if that's what they want anyways um wait so okay going back to you really quick are there any other
00:35:43Jessica (project manager)things that you've been accused of for when it comes to being shallow what's a common ick that you have that your friends are like come on this is this it is like like the hat backwards or like he has a fish in the
00:35:55Alexa Morganphoto what is you got something cuz you sound I think else sound very easygoing I would that's what I thought too but I guess there's got to be something there's got to be something um well I I hate when they're in the gym and they're
00:36:06Alexa Morganposting like their photo mirror yes um the one thing I also don't like is when there's multiple guys in one picture and you can't figure out who's who and you're scrolling through
00:36:19Alexa Morganum I honestly just think guys just take terrible photos of themselves in general can I ask how many dats you've gone on this year none that's the problem I mean I've tried I've that's your problem though
00:36:31Jakeyou're too picky you need to go on dates and get to know people because if you never put yourself out there and meet people like you you might find a guy that's super cringe online but he just doesn't know how to present himself like guys are [ __ ] like that the hard
00:36:42Alexa Morganpart about that though is you're putting so much energy into these apps and it's it it takes a lot of time to you know start doing that talking stage and if you're not attracted to that person you see on a photo I literally see the girls
00:36:55Jakemake no if it on those apps they'll just say hi my brother once showed me a girl who just said H she didn't even say hi just the letter H she could even be eye in it
00:37:06JakeI had a guy who messaged me the first message was like yo come over so I don't know there are guys that do that too what's your how do you normally open up on a dating app because if you're on Bumble for example and it's and it's you who's got to go first what do you
00:37:18Alexa Morgannormally say um if they have a good opener like a question I usually answer the opener or if it's uh more along the lines of hey how's your day going or hi
00:37:29Jakeit's nice to meet you you know that's how I usually start it um but if they do have an opener that's great that way I can segue into that if you if you like want to do that though you should have your formula and just lay it down from
00:37:40Jakethe start and be like listen um I like to go on a date first whatever if they want to take you on a date go on the date see if you like them if you don't like them free dinner yeah well I I wish like there seems to be months or weeks
00:37:53Alexa Morganand weeks of always texting and texting back and forth back and forth and I really would like the guy to initi hey you have to do it sometimes yeah I was say have then I'm like no they can't do it then no yeah sounds like you
00:38:05Jessica (project manager)overthink this [ __ ] a lot you need to get yourself onto the date and do it regularly what also sounds like you put a lot of pressure on a single date that you might if if you do put so much pressure on a single date you're going to be a lot more selective if you're
00:38:17Alexa Morganonly going on one every four months yeah you know it's it's hard I mean I agree there's a lot of things I could work on and I I appreciate your guys' um input on it I it's just hard with my job it's
00:38:29Alexa Morganexhausting to go on dates so I I know I need to work on it better yeah I'm a nurse so it's just it's hard but travel nurse no okay no no no no red flag flag I still kind of still kind of a red flag
00:38:40Brian Atlasno I work in oncology okay so uh let me ask you a question though like so okay well you said you're not necessarily waiting for marriage like you'll have sex before marriage but it's
00:38:51Brian Atlasgot to be like the right guy right what if it just like what if you hit 45 and it's just like still not happening are you just going to like be like [ __ ] it I'm just going for it I'm I
00:39:03Brian Atlaswant to lose my virginity or you like is there is there any scenario where you're just like you die a virgin put it down all right boys you know I don't find a guy it's not the thing that's going to
00:39:15Brian Atlasfulfill me in life um but like just like as a bucket list thing like let's say you're like 62 and you're still a virgin are you just G to like send it and just be like all right I'm gonna like [ __ ] this guy in the retirement no no I I
00:39:28Alexa Morganthink if I can't find somebody then I will probably die a virgin and I'm okay with that what do you think you said it would fill fulfill you in life what do you think will fulfill you in life I'm sorry repeat the question what do you think will fulfill you in life um
00:39:40Jakehonestly my relationship with God I'm a Christian and I think I when you think about the world though and I understand that that having a relationship with God is very important but also we're put in this
00:39:52Jakeworld and we're told to go forth and multiply right do you think that there is like something that you profoundly lose if you don't have a family and children no and I mean if that's what God had intended for me specifically
00:40:03Alexa Morganthen I have to accept that and be okay with that I think a lot of women my age are coming to that point where they want to be they're they're not um in relationships and they it's hard for
00:40:15Alexa Morganthem to get into a relationship so they have to figure out a way to uh be content in life so they you see a lot of girls trying to be happy being single because what else are you going to do be miserable at home better to have God
00:40:27Alexa Morganthan to not have God cuz if you don't have God you've got box wine and cats and a vibrator well and I I think the I think the problem though is we use relationships to fulfill this emptiness inside of us and that's where we get in problems when it comes to marriage and
00:40:41Jakewhatnot and why there's a fail in marriage the society but I do think that there is something to that though if you don't have a relationship at some point in your life I do think that there is something that's missing from within you I don't think we're meant to be alone are no we're not going to be alone but
00:40:53Alexa Morganwe are meant to be in one with God we know we meant to be in this world with God and I think when people do not have God in their lives they try to fill that empty hole and they use relationships as their faith they use relationships and
00:41:06Jakesure but you can have the both though you can have the both but as long as you don't make the relationship your whole world and um you have yeah understand what you're saying understand what you're saying it's definitely better to have God than to not have God that's for
00:41:19Jessica (project manager)sure yeah all right what uh what's your relationship status I am single my longest relation ship was three and a half almost can I have you
00:41:30Jessica (project manager)just tilt the mic down a bit is that better perfect go ahead okay so yeah my longest relationship was like three and a half 4 years
00:41:39Jessica (project manager)um single for how long it's kind of messy so my last relationship we kind of like we keep
00:41:49Jessica (project manager)trying to go back to it and then not and then now I think I'm done which is a big thing to say but wait so it's been on again off again yeah we we triy we were friends first
00:42:00Jessica (project manager)and then we dated on and off for about 3 years and it was an amicable breakup which is difficult cuz you still care for the person and you still have love
00:42:11Brian Atlasfor the person but it's just finding if I recall correctly you've done these experiments where you try to go on 50 dates in 50 days well that's when I first started dating but yes but have
00:42:21Brian Atlasyou done that recently again no I haven't been on after I excoriated you I that is that the right word me wait did I say that right excoriated let me never heard
00:42:32Brian Atlasor is it excoriated excor excoriated to denounce or berate severely fle verbally I don't know if I berated you severely I don't know denounced some of the comments said you berated me severely
00:42:45Brian Atlaswhich I thought it it was a strong denouncement it strong denouncement not a severe bation guess that's an excoriation it was an it was an excor yeah yeah I haven't
00:42:58Jessica (project manager)played verbally um I would be I would be open to it again I'm just not in that place I think so I started dating don't do it wrong I I started dating I went on my
00:43:10Jessica (project manager)first date when I was about 18 or 19 and my upbringing was very different than the average person I was homeschooled for most of my life I graduated high school at 16 I was in college by 16 so I was around people that were
00:43:21Jessica (project manager)significantly older and legally I was not going to date anyone for for that matter um and one of my friends called me approved when I hit 18 and she goes you don't date anybody and I was just very
00:43:34Jessica (project manager)driven very focused I'm the first in my family to go to college and I said well screw that I said I'll show you how I can be and I was like I'm going to go on 50 dates and 50 days with 50 different guys and we're going to see how this
00:43:45Jessica (project manager)this study goes um always been research-based uh my first serious relationship was date 14 it was someone that I I met and I really connected with and I I applauded you for if you don't find someone that's worth your time you
00:43:58Jessica (project manager)don't waste your time I will also say that you need to put yourself out there and that takes a physical effort and you need to do the work in that sense and that's it's hard so that's why I did the 50 dates my ex was date 14 we were
00:44:10Jessica (project manager)together for almost 4 years I caught him cheating with his soon with his best friends or no sorry his Marine buddies ex soon to be ex-wife who was leaving
00:44:21Jessica (project manager)his her her husband because she caught him cheating so she was becoming the other woman in my situation left him for that they ended up having a baby together moved on to the next I dated I
00:44:33Jessica (project manager)was like well I never finish 50 dates so I'm going to continue it I met my next partner on date n we were together for a year he got deported back to Norway um that's how that went and then I said I'm
00:44:44Jessica (project manager)going to go on 12 dates after that so I I'm a project manager I'm efficient with my time I think if you if you meet someone and you're really trying to connect with someone you can make the effort I do think girls sometimes are
00:44:56Jessica (project manager)have unrealistic standards for someone I don't think you should give up your minimum criteria but there are definitely a lot of amazing men out there that a lot of women Overlook and being someone that works in Tech I work with a lot of the nice guys that a lot
00:45:09Jessica (project manager)of women Overlook and I see their dating apps and I see what they go through why do you overlook them I don't I just have Christian backgrounds and most of them don't so I a matter of culture culture is part of
00:45:20Jessica (project manager)it no Christians nice guys no no no where I work like the people you're up in like the bay or yeah I'm in the bay like Tech Bros and yeah it's Tech Bros
00:45:31Jessica (project manager)wait like the bay so wait are you in SF or San Francisco or in Silicon Valley Silicon Valley okay so I'm open to it I mean I I have my preferences but I also
00:45:42Alexa Morganadmittedly can be sved kind of easily if someone can catch my attention I know what you're talking about cuz I lived in Santa Clara so so you know you're right down the street definitely knew what was going on up there so I totally agree the
00:45:54Jakedating scene up there is very very hard so all right what about you I am single been single for a long time DMS are open for the travel a lot so I don't
00:46:05Brian Atlashave time to really like date too much so yeah just grinding at the moment then maybe one day we'll see how it goes rock and roll uh longest relationship you've ever been in two years two years all right rock and roll guys we're going to
00:46:16Brian Atlasdo a segment called dating app review so three of the girls here at the table we're going to be reviewing their dating app profiles we're going to have you the viewers weigh in let us know what you think would you swipe yes would you
00:46:28Brian Atlasswipe no Nick if you're able to pull up the first one we're going to get that going we have Jess here she's got her pronouns in the bio just so you know
00:46:40Brian Atlasshe's a woman she her I she says she yaps too much now gentlemen is would that be would that be an issue for you that she yaps too much she also is into
00:46:51Brian Atlascats and Tattoos next you think that band in City morg should make an Alum album together no idea wait hold on uh who the [ __ ] is
00:47:02Brian Atlasthat guy okay no idea who those are cool next you quote too much from Big Bang Theory that's sweet next next person oh
00:47:14Brian Atlasit's the next person okay well we hold on we'll do we'll do Jess first all right boys you see her on Bumble do you swipe yes or do you swipe no swipe yes swipe no in the chat yo
00:47:26TTSshout out to Rachel Wilson in the chat um oh we got straws are for facts donated $200 Bri deteriorates when the convo
00:47:36TTSisn't on her for more than 30 seconds the girl in the corner is my sister she says it's toxic to ask someone on a date what they bring to the table in a relationship did he actually pay for that wait who's wait who's I don't know
00:47:50Brian Atlaswho the person in the corner someone's brother just that is my brother who's the brother can he change his username to something not TOS I should probably block that word out buts based yeah he
00:48:02Briseems based he would be so happy that you just said that um do you want to respond to that Bri that was directed to you I zoned out the whole thing I don't know um I just
00:48:14Jessica (project manager)wanted to say one thing 50 dates and none of them worked well terrible date 14 date 14 was someone that lasted for almost four years but it didn't work cuz he cheated or he left yeah but it was a
00:48:25Jessica (project manager)relationship that last for several years so it wasn't like it was random it's just you kind of go through it so he was date 14 then I dated someone else they had to go back home split up Nick 50 dates if she was a part50 is the whole
00:48:37Brithing if she was a part of your school what advice would you give to her oh my gosh I have so much advice for both of them please give it to them the only pink you need to go outside you don't need to go on dating apps that's not
00:48:49Brigoing to work and keep your standards where they're at because your standards are like the most basic like have a relationship with God be a family man like the most basic [ __ ] ever you're not
00:48:58Briasking them to be 7 foot tall and you like I feel like you need to up your standards a little bit because you're talking about no but sometimes guys but
00:49:10Brino stop we need to put men back up there so up your standards because after 50 guys you should have been married with kids by now if that's what you wanted to so you think that the fact that she
00:49:20Brididn't like the 50 guys means she has to up her standards if you had 50 guys and none of them worked it must be cuz you cuz your standard are too low you pick pretty shitty 50 guys gotta yeah so do
00:49:33Jessica (project manager)you want you guys can respond I was going to say the people that I've dated I've I'm 28 now I've been in relationship since I was 19 this is the longest I've ever been single and it's about 6 months to be honest so I've
00:49:45Jessica (project manager)been in great relationships and I think that it's one of those things that you have to be realistic about what you want I think I've done the work of knowing what makes a healthy relationship I've
00:49:55Jessica (project manager)done the work of seeing what long longitudinally speaking from research what makes a good relationship for people what makes them happy what makes them ful fulfilled in a relationship and I don't compromise on those standards
00:50:07Jessica (project manager)which is why most of my friends would say I am picky for what I have and I have no problem with that I have no problem saying that like I said he I have a preference it's not the end of the world to me at the end of the day but there are certain things like morals
00:50:20Jessica (project manager)character and value that I hold very strong to my beliefs that I'm not willing to negotiate because I do want to be a mom and I do want to raise my kids in in a certain way and I will not apologize for that yeah but you're 28
00:50:31Jessica (project manager)you want to be a mom your time is running out you need to pick 50 better guys who says I haven't picked them who says I haven't had options but I just said no because I know just cuz someone comes around I'm not desperate enough to
00:50:44Jakesettle for that person standards I have my standards that's not a problem this is the most [ __ ] conversation no no don't use try to avoid this is the most
00:50:54Jessica (project manager)silly conversation if you and you choose the right men after so here's a question I would love to ask you this question what do you think is upping my standards and where should I improve like I feel like you should
00:51:06Brichoose men like why haven't they worked out 50 guys why didn't I don't even know 50 guys like Why didn't it work out so majority of people don't have religious values majority of people don't want to raise their children that way four
00:51:19Jessica (project manager)number one key indicators for a relationship or money finances if you agree on finances your in-laws children whether or not how want to raise them and you know upbringing for that piece so it's one of those things like if I don't find someone that meets those things I don't care what someone does
00:51:33Jessica (project manager)for work I don't mind if someone's a workaholic I used to work an obscene amount of hours a day a week that's that's fine for me those things I'm fine with but finding someone that I think is going to make a great father and someone
00:51:44Jessica (project manager)that I if I have a son I want them to be like that that is a very hard thing to find I have a lot of male friends I have a lot of people that I think are great guys I always look at it as if I had a son and they turned out just like these
00:51:56Jessica (project manager)people would I be proud of them and if the answer is no I'm not going to waste my time and that's perfectly fine I would rather be selective in that piece what else do you have to say BR you got
00:52:06Jessica (project manager)more for her or but you picked 50 so or 14 14 9 and then 12 so 14 date 14 was great I had dates after that I canceled them because I thought this person was someone that I could marry and I stayed
00:52:18Jessica (project manager)with them for several years turns out they weren't the so sorry I'll hold it up it's good arm workout uh date 14 was great almost four years I thought this was the person I thought it was a great
00:52:30Jessica (project manager)a person I would be proud if my children became like this person turned out that wasn't the case that's perfectly fine not everyone's ready for that date n was someone I really admired and respected he is not from this country and he had
00:52:42Jessica (project manager)to leave that's perfectly fine after that last date I last person I've been dating for the past three three and a half years I love him as a person I think he's a wonderful man him and I want to raise children differently and we're able to actually have an adult
00:52:54Jessica (project manager)conversation and say hey we agree on on a majority of things he is someone that didn't even know if he ever wanted children and he goes I know how you want to raise children and I respect that and
00:53:03TTSI don't want donated $200 thank you manom Ryan and Jessica are the the fking bomb's total babes and wife material
00:53:13TTSClemson Alam lived in both Dallas and SF now live in both LA and Lake Como Italy accepting BF applications thank
00:53:24Brian Atlasyou no not right now are you guys that's for Alexa R I love a poet Jessica I open to it I I don't know I might be accepting boyfriend application all right Thomas the poet
00:53:37Brian Atlasyou I guess you can shoot your shot wait so Bri is your criticism here that like going on a date every single day is too much is that kind of your criticism for
00:53:46BriAlexa well if you were able to find so many guys why did you pick like you must have been picking wrong if you found some many guys went on dates with them
00:53:57Jakeand it still didn't work because technically I only picked three so if you're going based off of numbers no but you said you went on date 14 date 9 and date she had long relationships with them that they worked they just didn't
00:54:09Jessica (project manager)ultimately work yet before date 14 you went on 14 dayses right 13 dates 13 dates that's a lot you sure no it's it's one of those things you're going you're meeting people you're trying to get to know them you're trying to be very honest and realistic about what your
00:54:22Jessica (project manager)approach is and what you're looking for in life and if we didn't I go on a date with someone and if we I can think they're an amazing person and they're a great catch but we want different values in life I don't think either of us should have to compromise on that so I
00:54:34Jessica (project manager)can say hey we're not meant to be I wish you the best good luck finding the person that is going to be live the lifestyle that you want but you want to be a mom and you're 28 so you're like running out of time am I how many years
00:54:46Jessica (project manager)do I have left you have like six years left great I went on 50 dates and 50 days I got a lot of time if it's six years so you're going to do another 50 dates no now I'm more selective and I'm
00:54:57Jessica (project manager)actually seeing someone who wants to oh sorry go ahead go ahead goe go oh no I was just say now you're more selective so you agree with what I said that well no I went on 50 dates because I was told that I was too picky so in that situation it was something that I said
00:55:11Jessica (project manager)okay if I'm going to go on 50 dates and 50 days with 50 different guys I'm not going to compromise the fact that people need to have a decent profile in the sense of like if you're showing your ass or showing you're with a bunch of girls and getting drunk I don't want to date
00:55:23Jessica (project manager)someone like that I'm going to pass on you anyway but if it's someone that I think is is looking for a serious relationship and say hey maybe physically they're not like my first longest relationship is not someone I
00:55:32Alexa Morganwill I'm in the grave right now because I mean but I'm you can have children past 40 and be okay no high risk pregnancy after 35 and there's always adop that is true and I'm not going to
00:55:44Jessica (project manager)dis I'm not going to dispute that I think that is a very realistic thing I don't waste my times I don't do one night stands I don't waste my time with men like that and I have no problem with that but you don't do one night stands but you went on 50 dates yeah I'm not going to sleep with these people you
00:55:57Brididn't sleep with any of them you didn't sleep with any the one I ended up dating for 4 years okay I can count all my body I can count I have my body count on one hand what about you well I just recently
00:56:08Jessica (project manager)stopped being a vir you don't count yeah exactly I just recently St being a I'm just saying you can actually go on these dates I'm not sleeping with these people it's a I can have a conversation
00:56:21Jakethe way I'm having did you tell the other guys did you tell 10 11 and 10 11 12 and 13 that you'd been on 10 other n other dates no the same way I wouldn't ask them if they went on a date right before me okay wait so that that that would be giant alarm Bri is is your
00:56:33Bricriticism here like the clock is ticking kind of is that yeah I don't want you to get defensive and like all mad and stuff and act like I'm telling you like but like real [ __ ] you like need to get to it if you want to have kids and I am
00:56:47Jessica (project manager)looking and I'm looking genuinely for someone that I think I can have a long-term relationship with the same way I've done it with the past three relationships I don't consider like the fact someone cheated on on me and did that that that was his business that's
00:56:58Jessica (project manager)not mine and I can actually say for someone why' he cheat cuz he wasn't happy with himself when he lost his job and he started getting validation from other women
00:57:09Jessica (project manager)oh and what he didn't realize was he was with someone that actually really loved him and respected him and was willing to see the potential in him even when he wasn't doing his best I liked him for the man that he was and he has never been told that he was a good man prior