FAKE VlRGlN CONFRONTED?! Liar Claims She DOES NOT Have A BBL?! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #154

Date: 2024-04-22

Duration: 5h 55m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBri (DT154-Panama)>

JJessica (DT154-PM)>

JJessica P (DT154)>

AAlexa Morgan >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Jessica (project manager)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_04Jake(guest)

SPEAKER_05Alexa Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_06Bri(guest)

SPEAKER_07KJ(guest)

SPEAKER_08Ryan Abie(guest)

SPEAKER_09Jessica P(guest)

SPEAKER_10Jess(guest)

Key Moments

IntroShow intro. Brian Atlas welcomes viewers to the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating”

IntroBri introduces herself: from Miami, Panamanian, 'changing the world' by teaching men. Jake immediately challenges her philosophy.

“Miami and um my occupation is changing the world”

ControversyBri claims 'virginity is a mindset' — after Alaska epiphany she can choose to be a trans virgin. Brian coins the term. Jake challenges her biblically.

“and my new revelation I had in Alaska virginity is a mindset okay”

IntroGuest introductions: Jess (20, server/student, San Diego), KJ (24, sales, Texas), Ryan Abie (24, Texas, traditional), Jessica (28, project manager, Silicon Valley), Jessica P (21, pro-life activist, South Carolina), Jake (28, Australia, YouTuber).

“I'm Jess I'm 20 and um I'm a server”

IntroAlexa Morgan (35, virgin, oncology nurse) introduced. Brian is visibly shocked she's a virgin. 'That's the face she made — shocked the first time she ever met a real virgin'

“are you a virgin I am yes oh perfect make that face again”

Key MomentAlexa Morgan — 35yo virgin deep dive: explains her position, standards, faith. Brian asks: would she die a virgin? Alexa: 'If I can't find somebody then I will probably die a virgin and I'm okay with that.'

“I think if I can't find somebody then I will probably die a virgin and I'm okay with that”

Key MomentWho would you rather date? audience poll — Bri vs Alexa. Alexa wins 86% to 14% on YouTube; 80% to 20% on Twitch. Brian: 'Even though Alexa is 6 years older, she wins easily.'

“86% 86% so Alexa won 86% to Bri and then over there on YouTube 8020”

Key MomentBBL confrontation: Brian shows Bri's Instagram profile and old photos. Video shown appears to demonstrate pre/post body change. Audience poll: ~50% say she has a BBL. Bri: 'I never got a BBL. I got my boobs and my teeth done and my hair done.' Brian and Jake push back; Bri maintains denial throughout.

“asked you I think if you had any lipo and if you had a BBL nope give me a break”

QuoteBri: 'I got my boobs done I'll tell you that. I got my veneers done in Miami. I got my teeth done in Miami and I got hair extensions. But I didn't get BBL.'

“boobs and my teeth done and then I would lie about having my butt done”

ControversyBri's OnlyFans link found in her Instagram story less than 24 hours before taping — exposed as lying about quitting. Brian reads it out. Bri says she's 'quitting starting today.' Jake: 'Your grift has been exposed.' Brian calls her a 'pathological liar.' Bri argues she didn't ask them to pull up her Instagram.

“link dude on your Instagram well I didn't say when I quit I quit now so so you're a you're a liar”

QuoteJake calls out Bri's hypocrisy: 'You've come in here one side of your mouth saying you want to help men while on the other side you have that only fans still going. That's not only dishonest — that's actually malicious.'

“you've come in here and you said I'm like a manifesting virgin or whatever”

Key MomentBri put in the corner as show punishment. Brian: 'There you go. Think about what you've done.'

“get in the corner there you go think about what you've done Bri okay”

Key MomentJessica P debates Bri on abortion: life begins at conception; right to life precedes all other rights. Bri: anti-death penalty. Jessica P presses inconsistency: if you're anti-death penalty for guilty people, how can you be pro-choice for an innocent fetus?

“human life biologically begins a conception so I think the right to life precedes any other right”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and announcements

Brian's standard intro: support via streamlabs, TTS donations, memberships, merch, non-profit mention, disclaimer.

Bri's intro and philosophy

Bri introduces herself: from Panama, 'changing the world' by teaching men, formerly tried to be a teacher. Jake immediately challenges her on what her course teaches. Bri describes 3 pillars: spirituality (manifestation/prayer), physical, financial.

Bri's trans virgin claim / virginity is a mindset

Brian asks about prior virgin claim. Bri reveals Alaska epiphany: 'virginity is a mindset' — you can choose to be a virgin. Jake challenges biblically. Bri says sex = creation therefore non-sex = virginity. Brian coins 'trans virgin' framing.

Guest introductions round

All guests introduce: Jess (20, server/student, SD), KJ (24, sales, TX), Jessica (28, project manager, Silicon Valley), Jessica P (21, pro-life activist, SC), Jake (28, Australian YouTuber), Ryan Abie (24, TX, traditional).

Relationship status round

All guests describe current relationship status and longest relationship. Brian probes each. KJ almost got engaged at 19-20; Ryan single 6 months; Jess in talking stage 2 weeks; Jessica P longest relationship 2 months; Alexa never had a boyfriend.

Alexa Morgan: 35yo virgin deep dive

Brian discovers Alexa is 35 and a virgin — shocked reaction (makes 'face'). Extended discussion of why: Christian upbringing, waiting for right person, standards discussion. Jake joins on Christian perspective. Alexa's work as oncology nurse contextualized. Would die a virgin if right person never comes.

Dating app review segment

Brian reviews female dating app profiles with panel. Discussed which profiles they'd swipe on, what makes good/bad profiles, quirky self-descriptions as icks.

Who would you rather date? Bri vs Alexa poll

Audience poll: would you rather date Bri or Alexa? Alexa wins 86% on YouTube, 80% on Twitch. Brian notes Alexa is 6 years older than Bri but still wins easily.

BBL confrontation — Bri's surgical history

Brian pulls up Bri's Instagram profile on stream. Photos shown. Brian accuses Bri of having BBL. Bri denies: 'I never got a BBL.' Admits to boob job, veneers, hair extensions. Video shown appears to show pre/post change. Audience poll ~50% say BBL. Bri: 'Why would I lie about having my butt done when I'm honest about the boobs?'

Chivalry and traditional gender roles debate

Brian asks what women bring to first dates if they expect traditional treatment from men. Ryan defends chivalry as attractive. Panel debates whether 'looking nice' is specifically traditional. Jake argues women with liberal views still expect traditional male behavior.

Ryan Abie's dating app review

Ryan's dating app profile reviewed: she was drunk when friends made it; turned off after 1 week. Prompts: 'chivalrous' and 'TSA' (co-worker Tyler made those). Brian pushes on what she brings to dating relationship.

KJ's dating app review

KJ's dating app profile reviewed: 'first round is on me, guess my real name', 'key to my heart is fat margarita on the rocks', calls herself Mama. Jake says don't put jokes on profile. Brian asks KJ about commitment and marriage beliefs.

Body count reveals and double standard debate

Ryan states body count 5. Jess states body count 5. KJ disagrees with Brian's position that men can have high body counts while preferring low body counts in women. Extended philosophical debate about biological reasons, evolutionary logic, hypocrisy argument. Bri argues biology explains male higher body counts; Jake and Brian argue women's promiscuity is more damaging.

Pre-show notes discussion: Jess on feminist label

Brian confronts Jess who wrote 'feminist' in pre-show notes but walks it back. She doesn't want to debate feminism. Brian presses her; she refuses to engage. Brian warns he'll stop trying to engage her if she keeps stonewalling.

Men scared of commitment debate

Panel round: are men scared of commitment? Various answers. KJ says guys her age are scared. Brian presents divorce statistics (80% female-initiated). Panel says women mostly end their own relationships. Brian asks: could men's commitment hesitancy be justified by women predominantly ending things?

Marriage debate — KJ vs Brian

KJ disagrees with Brian's anti-marriage position. Argues marriage is a daily choice, love is a choice. Brian argues marriage doesn't bind women to stay, creates financial risk for men. KJ says if going in thinking of divorce you're with wrong person. Jess adds: strong love doesn't need a piece of paper (either way). Jessica (PM) adds legal argument: gay uncle's partner lost everything without marriage.

Intelligence self-rating round

Chat question: rate your intelligence 0-200 (200 = Einstein). Jessica P: 40-50. Jessica (PM): 120-130. Jake: 'we're all tens.' Brian: 5. Bri: declined.

Dating advice for men

Panel gives dating advice for men. Ryan and Jessica P: just have confidence / fake it til you make it. KJ: shoot your shot. Jessica (PM): find strong male role models; find someone who vibes with you in person. Jake: accomplishment breeds competence.

Dangerous jobs / wage gap discussion

Video shown: helicopter cell tower stacking. Brian and Jake argue male-dominated dangerous jobs disprove the wage gap narrative. Bri argues her truck driver father makes six figures. Jake says most men can't become 'top 1%' — Bri disagrees from Panama immigrant story.

Show outro and Twitch raid

Brian wraps up. Mentions $2,000 scam by David Spearman Stevens (Dubai). Bri promotes her Snap (123). Jake mentions Reality Based Podcast. Brian raids 82yo woman (Grandma) playing World of Warcraft on Twitch.

Makeup and deception debate

Before/after makeup transformation photos shown on-stream (women transforming dramatically with heavy makeup). Panel debates: is this deception? Jake draws parallel to man flashing borrowed Rolex. Brian argues makeup is like lying about your career. Bri says deception. Jessica P argues men's visual stimulation makes this understandable.

Bri's OnlyFans and course — Jake confrontation

Jake challenges Bri: she's taking money from lonely men via OnlyFans while simultaneously claiming she wants to help men for free. Bri: I don't post anymore. Brian: it's still up. Jake: your worldview is counterintuitive and sinister. Extended back-and-forth.

Bri's OnlyFans exposed — Instagram story confrontation

Viewer sends Brian Bri's Instagram story with OnlyFans link from <24 hours ago. Brian reads it out. Bri says she's quitting 'starting today.' Jake: 'Your grift has been exposed.' Bri: 'I didn't ask you to pull up my Instagram.' Extended confrontation. Brian: 'You're a pathological liar.' Bri put in corner briefly.

Bri put in corner

Brian asks Bri to stand in the corner and 'think about what you've done.' Show punishment for repeated disruption and dishonesty.

Abortion / pro-life debate

Jessica P debates Bri on abortion. Jessica P: life begins at conception, right to life precedes all other rights. Bri: anti-death penalty. Jessica P presses Bri on inconsistency. Jess (SPEAKER_10): pro-choice up to first trimester. Jake: pro-life position is intellectually indefensible to challenge because all biologists agree life starts at conception.

Transcript

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Jakewell un If you're girl if you don't know a girl and she's just like an internet thought unfollow her to be following her don't don't slide into her DM she's not going to reply to you I do reply so

Jakethat's the difference not all of them do but I do so that's the difference yeah I'm sure you get a lot of DM I don't have your blood at all of them I do yeah it's good to shoot your shot but I mean if if they're wanting advice and stuff

Brioff you especially if they're asking for a advice if they're just saying oh my God you're so hot like yeah I'm not going to reply but if they're like hey Bri like this happened blah like okay then I want to talk you understand that they they're doing that though because it's the only time they probably ever

Jakeget to talk to a pretty girl that's fine then I'll be there that's not really okay if you want if you want to Aid them on their self-help Journey you should tell them stop messaging me and go and do go and do your thing no because I'm helping them but yeah I get what you

Jakemean I get what you mean other girls yeah like message there's nothing good about like being in a back and forth message with a girl who's um you know going me yeah I have a chance with you all right uh you also said men not being

Ryan Abiemen anymore did you want to expand on any of that man I'm so curious what I was thinking when I typed that um I feel

Ryan Abielike they're just not as I don't want to manly as manly anymore we don't hold standard yeah it's hard to find them as

Ryan Abieattractive when they're more feminine I guess I mean you have feminism to blame for that you really do I and I I kind of agree with that I'm curious what your

Jakethought is on that yeah well I mean feminism is like a inherently toxic ideology and it's a social and political movement it's not just like wanting

Jakeequality between the Sexes and um it's made a whole generation of young men to feel like they're toxic if they try and show ambition show leadership and all of these things that are inherently masculine features and traits they get

Jakebeaten up you can see so many articles in the mainstream media where they say weightlifting is toxic masculinity and all these things like it it's just yeah it's masculinity is demonized a lot

Brithese days it sounds like you guys agree with my course no I don't agree with your nobody wants your B it sounds like 100% with what I'm saying we're

Briturning men feminine we have lost complete what a man is we are holding men we're not holding men to standard they're not being providers we're not doing traditional roles this is what we

Brineed to change this [ __ ] needs to change I don't know what happened yeah yeah F you [ __ ] M you agree with what I'm saying you just don't want to say that

Jakebecause no what you're doing is your you're asserting your business model into there and what what I'm saying to you is your business model is like not going to work first of all it's not going to be productive because you're a female you don't understand the plot of

Bria man you don't understand what it's like that's why I have experts coming in if anything who are the what someone like you who went from being bigger and

Jakenot healthy and then turned into that young guy I could ask someone like that and bring them on you so okay so look if if that's your business model and if you're saying I'm going to be I'm going

Jaketo fund it and then I'm going to get experts to come in who are Mal exactly what I'm doing but don't you try and tell them what to do you would you wouldn't know the first thing about the life of a man OB obviously that's why I'm saying but you said before you going to teach them to man I have the

Briresources to do that so you're not going to stand up there I'm not going to stand up there and be like this is how you do a push-up I don't know how to do a push-up okay nobody gives a [ __ ] about your course sorry um I'm just saying it sounds like you guys all agree with it

BriBrian you know you agree with it you're just you just your job is to come on here and Bash as much as possible especially we talking about feminism you brought up your bloody nobody yeah that's the issue because she agrees with me yeah yeah but what's that that what's

Brithat have to do with your course and and you guys are all agreeing with what I'm saying that we're turning men feminine sounds like Jones toown your course isn't it turning aren't we turning men feminine aren't we not you're going to

Brishe's going to solve it okay okay turning men F exactly just $69 a month society as a whole we're turning men like we're not holding men to that

Brimasculine rule that they should be doing that precisely mostly like they said feminists women yeah do you think women should take accountability then for some of the

Jakemen's actions yes they should take accountability also if you're if if you yourself you said you don't even want to get married and have a have a family yeah don't you think that's the ultimate aspiration for a man is to want to be able to be married and have that meaning

Jakeand purpose in his life where he can have kids and we should probably try and re restructure the nuclear family wouldn't that be a key pillar of men are not meant for marage went off on this polygamy as you

Jakethink can understand if you mean from the secular perspective like like Brian said it's a bad deal for men but if you're saying that you don't think that the nuclear family is a is a positive

Jakething you can have a family but you don't have to be married and it doesn't have to be with one person sure but do you think that a mother and a father and children in a household is the best way to order

BriSociety I don't think men are meant to be monogamous that's what I think okay so what you your so your advice to men would be to do what become that well once you become that top where you

Jakewant to be sleep around your whole life plant your seed your whole life you can either choose to do that or you can choose but that's the good thing they have the choice a lot of men and this is the problem this is the problem with the internet with Tik Tok and the likes we

Jakehave no offense but people like yourself who will say these things that have really no basis in reality when really we understand that the nuclear family is the backbone of society if we want to get back to having a healthy Society

Jakewe'd want to be that's what we want to structure it around like once the family fails and degenerates Society tends to degenerate as a whole and then we get like institutions like feminism and we get children being indoctrinated into

Jakethese movements that I probably can't say on YouTube in school mhm and all of these cultural from men are biologically meant to be monogamous I think they're meant

Jaketo be they're meant to have multiple I I would I would agree that men biologically have an inclination to not be monogamous but what I would say is that just like every other human Temptation it's something that we have

Jaketo temper so got to temper if if you if you are a man who does seek to have a family it is something that you will have to temper now I'm not even saying that I'm totally against the idea of a man having a handshake agreement with his wife you know they get a bit older

Jakethey don't really park the bus very often and he goes out and I'm not even against that I'm Italian woman turns the Blind Eye in Italian culture very often and these things happen a lot of it's not ideal as long as they're open about

Briit that's what I think yeah yeah so I mean but yeah well my main thing is you guys can bash me all you want and laugh all you want but you guys are all agreeing

Brian Atlaswith what I'm saying that we have ruined men in society cool moving on David treak you are correct Brian it's scary but I've been in 12 foot bow thrusters

Brian Atlasyou fear getting sucked up to a through hole on a larger ship I worked on props that actively moved always watched others yo David treak thank you man appreciate it I'm not familiar with all

Brian Atlasthose things but uh thank you for the chat man good always good to see you in the chat appreciate all your support and then we are going to uh let's see maybe we'll head on red

Brian Atlasflags a little bit later uh here's what you disagree on Ryan so we already talked about marriage I don't know if you wanted to State any of your disagreements on that or if you feel we

Brian Atlasalready covered it we already covered it here's a good one you said Brian not being okay with makeup yeah okay so what what do you uh object to there before I

Brian Atlastalk on this I want to hear from you so I don't miss say anything what are your views on makeup what are my views on makeup well my view uh it encapsulates a

Brian Atlasfew other things so there's there's plastic surgery which it encapsulates encapsulates into that and then there's like use of filters on dating apps for

Brian Atlasexample so um uh when it comes to dating I think wearing makeup is you're changing your physical appearance you're making

Brian Atlastypically yourself look more physically attractive with makeup otherwise why would you wear it if it was making you look just the same or less attractive so

Brian Atlasclearly women wear makeup to be to wear to look better now of course you might provide push back for well we don't do it for men we do do it for ourselves well whoever you do it for whether it's for yourself or other women or for men

Brian Atlasor all of the above um you do it to make yourself look better okay uh so if that's not how you actually look that is a

Brian Atlasdeception okay yeah so I guess my criticism is um me per and then I mean I have other reasons but I I do think that you are

Brian Atlasmisrepresenting your appearance I do think it is a lie okay I don't if a for example a girl I'm dating if I'd prefer her to not wear makeup I prefer women who wear minimal or no makeup uh a

Brian Atlaslittle bit of eyeliner or something or mascara cool you start putting [ __ ] on your face and contouring and doing all this [ __ ] lipstick don't like it okay totally little eyeliner [ __ ] it

Ryan Abiedon't care really but I prefer no makeup okay yes I agree with you with the changing your entire appearance I can agree with that sure for but I do think minimal amount of makeup to make

Brian Atlasyourself look more presentable would be about the same as you guys getting a haircut or shaving your beard no it would be equivalent to women getting a haircut that as well yeah a man getting a haircut would be the equivalent of a woman getting a haircut not a woman

Ryan Abiewearing makeup okay then let's talk about the beard I do agree with the haircut no beard a beard isn't even a fair comparison either I think she saying if you shave your beard you a different person I mean guys always look more

Brian Atlasattractive when they come absolutely but I'm not putting something artificial on my face it's the artificial piece or it's altering the way that you look naturally well again the the beard

Brian Atlascomparison I don't think is uh equivalent comparison to makeup and also I would make the argument like if we were to split someone's face uh into halves I would argue the determination

Brian Atlasas to what makes somebody physically attractive tends to be up here more so up here in the top half of the face than the bottom half of the face now look guys can wear beards and they can look different they can look more attractive

Brian Atlascan hide a weak jaw or a weak chin absolutely yeah I don't disagree but I don't think the the change is comparable

Brian Atlasto the change that makeup has and and you're kind of I mean but what about you this is sort of like a whataboutism an appeal to like hypocrisy

Brian Atlaswell men do X but okay let's actually look at the use of makeup do you do you agree that I agree with you changing the face yes but then also it's like you get fooled by that I feel like that's a little bit on you but I feel like not

Jakealways some girls are really some girls are really great at it but I feel like I kind of feel you can notice I can't think of a time where I've ever been on a date with a girl and then had another time where I've seen her with no makeup

Brian Atlasand not and not and been like totally Jarred by The Experience have you had that um normally you can tell if they've caked it on truthfully though I typically tend to not date women who

Brian Atlaswear a lot of makeup I've never dated I've never dated a girl who would like regularly who did full face makeup sometimes they' wear like eyeliner

Brian Atlasmascara that's it but there are a hold on and then there's a decent amount of women who will regularly wear more than just eyeliner and that but then it extends to well let's say you're meeting

Brian Atlasthem on a dating app and they're not including any photo of them without makeup or their first photo filter full face of makeup we could F we could go on

Brian Atlasa dating app right now and like go through 20 30 40 50 profiles that first profile photo always going to have a typically full face of makeup or a filter yeah and yeah I agree with you

Ryan Abiebut it is but again if you get fooled by it I feel like that's okay so if I if I lie and say I'm a lawyer but I'm not and I'm broke is that on you if I believe that yeah I didn't do any res so you

Brian Atlasdon't think it's wrong though oh of course it's wrong okay so then ought it be wrong for women to misrepresent their physical appearance by use of makeup I think if that's your the way that you think about it then that's okay but my

Brian Atlasperspective is completely different it's are you attracted to muscular guys it depends how muscular athletic fit normal yes okay but not like cre so what if a guy like

Brian Atlastook a bunch of photos in like a very convincing muscle suit but he actually but he actually wasn't that physically fit would that be a deception yes okay

Ryan Abieand I hope I would not like Get Fooled by that okay but it's just deceptive yeah no it is okay so wearing makeup as deceptive is more of the

Jakeargument yeah I agree that yeah if you're mean how can it not be that's not how you actually look of course it's a deception there also like you could also make that same argument then about high

Jakeheels because high heels are meant to sort of make make your bum poke out and making legs look nicer and I don't Honestly though I don't have any issue with high heels

Ryan Abiereally I guess they can wear them I just don't but it does make leg look longer makes your legs look more muscular meant to pu your way make yourself look more attractive or more presentable I prefer girl and sneakers so if there's like

Jakesome [ __ ] [ __ ] hits the fan situation we can get the [ __ ] out of there totally I think I think girls underestimate how much maybe maybe we're different but how much we actually like the look of it natural girl without makeup if you work up to a date and you're not wearing

Jessica (project manager)makeup and you look really pretty it's like nice yeah but could you also say that maybe social media has perpetuated that in the sense of the girls who get wait can you scoot the mic to the like the mic's way too far into the scoot it

Jessica (project manager)yeah there you go no I was just going to say like the people that people give attention to on social media and stuff are not the natural girls typically the girls that have the filters the girls

Jessica (project manager)that have the implants the girls that have an obscene amount of makeup they I think it's easy for society or for young women to say hey this is what gets attention so even though a guy says he

Jessica (project manager)likes natural girls if I go on his account and I see he follows all these fake girls and he's giving all these girls attention I don't know why do I follow I'd say if he's following them in the first place that's not a good thing

Jakebut yeah I completely agree with me with with you agree with me I completely agree with you like social media absolutely perpetuates this and makes girls want to get more and more and more surgery done and makeup done and it

Jakemakes them more and more fake but that's what I'm saying my point was that women underestimate how much we like it do you know what I'm saying I see what you're saying have naturally pretty girl yes

Ryan Abiebut yes is everyone naturally pretty I think that's also the question I think that's oh yeah if you see a model that looks beautiful without makeup of course you're going to be like oh my gosh I prefer a girl without makeup but but also there's there's a there's a certain

Jakelike he said deception about wearing a lot of makeup and if a girl is wearing a lot of makeup and I can look at her and look like I'm want to take it off with a shovel then there's something that's like gives you the ick a little bit with

Jessica (project manager)yeah oh I totally get that so yes a lot of makeup I'm agreeing with you guys on but I do think have you seen those those videos of the Asian girls where it's like they they take their makeup off and they look like a totally have you ever seen those videos of when those

Jakecrackhead girls put on APS of makeup like that yeah know it looks exactly like they don't have tee ni do you have a photo you can pull up for us in the makeup folder that's crazy though you can type in like Asian girl transformation there's some that are while they can make their faces Contour

Brian Atlasin all different you can put tape and you actually make your face thinner uh h said I started dating a girl in a few weeks in she invited me over for dinner she answered the door and I basically froze up I didn't even recognize her her

Jakemakeup game was damn near Flawless damn it yeah they can get pretty good at it to be fair it is a good point like they I've seen some pretty good makeup jobs in my life well

Brian Atlasit's like the filters and the plastic surgery and a lot of these girls don't look like they do in real life Nick you got you got a photo for

Brian Atlasus there's like a photo in the makeup folder I don't have it off hand inter the there should be is there not like a before after

Brian Atlasphoto in the makeup folder hold on go the oh it might not be in the tab hold

Brian Atlason yeah I'm looking for to uh yeah Nick go into Dropbox podcast makeup there

Brian Atlasjust pull up one and two okay this one's pretty this one's not a great example

Brian Atlasbut yeah pull up both of them make a smaller party um I mean that's a pretty substantial transformation there pull up

Brian Atlasthe other one oh there's some that went from Indonesian to Japanese real quick um I mean there's also a common thing in um Asian makeup where it's like works

Jessica (project manager)almost like a glue and so it gives you the double eyelid so you can you can that's so that's what happens there is she has monolids and then she actually makes make her nose th though it's Contour Contour andlight did you see what they do with the lady boys in

JakeThailand oh yeah a good job over there they do great job great job over in thail the the old Tomah hwk Tu but uh I mean obviously look those

Brian Atlasare those are fairly substantial makeup transformations but oh wait what's the Nick let's do some of the videos what's the video with the the blond you know

Brian Atlasthe blond haired one let's do that one that's a pretty substantial transformation um oh uh we'll play this one there's another one too but go ahead oh I think it's in the makeup folder no

Brian Atlasaudio no audio no audio go ahead

Brian Atlasshe's doing some wow I mean like yeah wow obviously she's wearing a lot of makeup but I wouldn't anticip like if she here's the trick right it's like she's wearing a lot of makeup you don't

Brian Atlasknow the extent of how she's going to look like without the makeup yeah so and you wouldn't necessarily look at her and be like she's wearing a whole lot of makeup like here's here's the deception right like when she's wearing this much

Brian Atlasmakeup it's clear hold on it's clear she's wearing makeup there I know she doesn't look like that but I don't think she looks to the like that is the thing so it's like yeah that's crazy there's

Jessica (project manager)another one Nick blonde girl she has braces or something I think do we have it in the makeup tab I I don't know so first dat should be like

Brian Atlashot yoga or swimming or something it's a good point I think we might have it in the tab do you know which one I'm talking about Nick the girl with with the

Jessica (project manager)braces bra what the boxing gym there you go was it in the makeup tab yeah okay imagine she like gets it all in the ghe say she WR we're pulling it up okay go

Brian Atlasfor I've seen this one take her swim in on the first day see all right putting on the makeup it's

Brian Atlasa lot of makeup putting on the makeup huge huge difference what the hell is that it's huge um wait so I mean

Alexa MorganI guess like what what are your disagreements though would you guys have picked the first girl or the second girl when initially looking at if they

Alexa Morgancompare the two photos would you have chosen the first girl which which one the one without the makeup on would you have swiped right or right on her if oh

Jakeno way no you see you later AA but with the one that has the makeup on wait so uh for which girl what are you talking about so without the makeup

Jakeshe saying without the makeup photo would you have swiped probably not probably not but with the makeup would you uh probably yeah

Alexa Morganprobably with swis okay is there a followup question or I did but I forgot it now I'll come back to me later for that one we you going to say do you

Alexa Morganthink that's why they do it I wonder if it's because you guys are looking at the image but maybe that what why the girls are putting on makeup is so you can look at them but it's more underneath the

Jakeskin or underneath the makeup that you should be looking for too you don't I think I think it's a very it's it's a very idealistic thing to think and I get where you're coming from but men are visually stimulated and this is this is

Jakea thing women can be very emotionally and stimulated and stimulated with the narrative but men are very visually stimulated if I don't find you physically attractive that's a ma that's a massive problem I think women can generally get over it if the guy's High

Jakestatus enough and if he's respected by other other men wanted by other women but does the makeup also um is visually stimulating for you if if if they look hot with the makeup on then yeah that's going to be visually stimulating but

Brian Atlasit's going to be very disappointing if they don't look at without the wait so is the argument here heaven forbid my men find prefer women who are more physically attractive is that the

Alexa Morganargument well you saying that you do not like girls who are wearing makeup correct correct okay so if you are finding a girl on the dating apps and

Alexa Morganone is wearing no makeup you're saying that you would not swipe on her you wouldn't swipe what's the word left or right right you wouldn't swipe right on her or you would swipe right on her if

Jakeshe was wearing makeup or not wearing makeup I get what she's saying it is a good question because I would be shallow shallow in that sense as a as a man that I would swipe right on the one with makeup and swipe left on the one without

Jakebut that's where the Deception comes in though I think you can natural girls this is where I'm getting to I think you can actually sort of balance that though because you can have a photo where you look nice but you're not you know you can look your best whatever your best is

Jakewithout having to cake makeup on you know but some girls they look bad but sometimes look good when they accentuate their features with makeup a lot of girls do yeah for sure but then that's when the Deception comes in though that's when if if you have that and then

Brian Atlasyou don't get those features unless they're totally made up then you're not going to be as attracted to them and some men are more attractive to women when they accentuate their fake work

Brian Atlashistory true H you know I'm not a pargal I'm an attorney I'm not a receptionist wait but

Briwhen you guys said you prefer natural girls now you're saying that you are shallow enough to swipe on the girl with makeup I thought you said you prefer natural girls and they men don't like she asked us if comparing those two

Brian Atlaswomen why don't you she's a natural one well I'm not inclined to be attracted to her in her like in that natural state but is a degree it is deception no that's fine the whole point the whole

Bripoint is the deception that's why why deception I agree with but I'm asking why did you say you prefer natural girls and now you're saying you would pick the girl with makeup we're not obliged to find every woman who's not wearing

Brimakeup attractive well not all women are going to be attractive who without makeup yeah that's I'm saying most girls are going to look more attractive with makeup on

TTScuz it accentuates their featur okay just Gerald donated $200 sorry for interrupting so absolutely sorry for this terrible

TTSInterruption Lord have mercy forgive my transgressions what are you trying to hide with all that face paint I think that it's equivalent from

Jakea female perspective I think that it's equivalent to if a guy was to go out and with his paycheck and to buy a Rox right and he's flashing around the Rolex in the club and you girls like oh he looks you know like he's a successful guy he's really got it going on he's buying bottles and then you go back to his

Jakeapartment and you wake up in the morning and he's got like a one-bedroom apartment and he's he's sharing a sharing a flat with somebody and he's like room's dirty and he's got no money he actually has no money in the bank he was just flashing all of that and making himself look attractive but then when

Briyou peel back a layer he hasn't got it going on well I wouldn't go for a man that's flashing a Rolex and buying bottles cuz that sounds like he's not smart with his money what if he's just a a millionaire and multimillionaire he

Brican afford it sounds like he's not I'm from Miami so that's all I see and I don't go for any of those I'm sure you you stay well away from those guys right yeah I hate those guys actually because they are so self centered and entitled

Jakeand all that so I mean make your argument doesn't doesn't f so you live in Miami you got the fakies going on yeah you you had it you had your o yeah and you're trying to tell me that you

Jakestay well away from and you've got all these photos on your Instagram of you and the other bbls you know and you're telling me that you that you don't like guys with Rolex and are you are you trying to you think we're Ste I don't want a guy that's flashing that stuff

Jakebecause that probably means like you said one he doesn't have it or two he's really done with have you ever been flown out to a location somebody somewhere far away flown out to have you ever been flown on a plane you're getting blocked by the mic try straighten up the mic if you can go

Jakeahead have you ever had a guy pay for a flight for you to go somewhere no there you go good job never no why would I have a you ever have a guy do something that costs a lot of money take you on a really expensive date buy you something

Brireally nice I don't really like guys paying for me it gives them power and I don't I like being in control I guess take your word for it it sounds like perin I just don't

Jakelike n we'll take your word for it I don't like you're like a you you're like a Miami girl but you I'm not from Miami though I'm from Panama I just moveed there you're Tennessee Tennessee girl and a Miami girls

Bribuddy Tennessee girl you're Tennessee girl and a Miami girls buddy oh you're Tennessee at heart but outwards you just happen to have all the paces yeah yeah that's a good way to explain it I rather say Alaska girl than Tennessee girl

Brian Atlasbecause I went to Alaska but yeah your heart is in the woods yeah you said you used to do only fans yeah uh when you say you mean when you said used to do

Briyou mean still currently I mean I am in the process of transitioning from only fans to my new career as a teacher hold on a second you you still you're still doing it well I don't post on it anymore

Jakebut like still getting paid from it it's still open you're saying you want to help guys I haven't deleted it sorry I just keep rocking this table it it hasn't been deleted hold on a second but you're still making money off dudes on

Jakeonly fans and you're trying to say that you want to start a school to help guys get that so like you have such a counterintuitive worldview well yeah I guess I got much cogniance I haven't deleted it but I'm not making

Brian Atlasreally any money from say it says you're available now on your only fans I don't know that says you still have your only fans it says you're available now are you well we already talked about that last show you're probably chatting

Briwith people chatting with people during the show no no one you're available you've got your Chatters working right now I don't have ch actually after that show I side of your mouth you're saying that you want to

Jakehelp and the other side you've got a little Filipino typing for you wait after the show you had to what no after last show they were on my account and I had to fire them so now I have no what

Briwhat did you fire who did you the Chatters okay okay good times after last show thanks to you guys so congrats I I don't know people were messaging me you but no I'm not if if you had given

Jakeit up and if You' you know cuz like I've done plenty of degenerative things in degener degenerate things in my past right yeah but you like you got to if you want to say that you want to be a teacher and a helper you have to have left that behind yeah it has to be well

Briand truly in the past I'm deleting it I haven't deleted it right this second you chatter working right there's not a chatter working right now it says you're available really show me where it says I'm available show we're not going to pull it up okay then show it to me show

Brian Atlasit to me not going to turn it around but it literally says can I stand up and go see where it says no you're just going to have to take our word for it oh so it doesn't even say I'm a okay Brian so now cuz you could just show me right now or

Bripull it up even willing to pull up even if we granted that it's still up you're still making money off I'm not making money off of it and you make money you don't really make money off subscriptions you make money off

Jakemessaging but are you making money off it not really no you're making are you making a do she's a pathological liar I'm not you won't even show me where it says I'm available now I wonder if this s is still watching who was super

Brichatting before saying don't be mean to breath no be well I don't know why you guys got your panties in a Twist and are all attacking me but look no I'm just calling you out I want to be on only

Brifans anymore that's what I've decided that's the thing I've come to so I'm leaving it and why would come on here and say oh I don't want to be on it anymore wouldn't it be better for me to say clearly what you're doing is actually it's actually quite Sinister though because what you've done is

Jakeyou've come in here and you said I'm like a manifesting virgin or whatever and then you're saying I want to go to school and help guys and you're trying to appeal to guys who are watching this show by saying that you'd like to help them oh she understands me and and then you're saying oh they all slide into my

JakeDMs and I and I talk to them and I relate to them and and then all there might be guys out there think oh my God I can go and relate to her and and then you're saying that you want to help them at the very same moment you have that only fan still going you're directing

Brithere I don't have I don't I'm not using the only fans I am not currently using that is not only that's not only dishonest that's that's actually malicious no so I have a question would it be beneficial to me if

BriI had the only fans that I'm currently using to come on a show with a bunch of viewers and say I don't have it no it wouldn't be beneficial to me at all

Briwouldn't it be more beneficial for me to come on here ban lose use your logic wouldn't it be beneficial if I'm on it

Bricuz last time last time I was on it bro last time I was on it and I came here and I said I was on only fans so

Briwouldn't it be more beneficial for me to say that I'm on it and be honest and be like Oh I'm on it so I get more

Brimoney wouldn't it be [Music]

Briwouldn't it be [Music] more okay I don't know why you put music on but but would it be better for me to say that I'm on it if I'm on a place with a

Bribunch of viewers where I will make money off of it obviously I'm not using it if I'm coming on here in front of everybody I any who the hell cares anyways moving on arent against that any on your ARG

JakeI've just literally destroyed your whole you got destroyed destroyed how did I get destroyed destroyed how did I get destroyed how did I get destroyed I said

Briwith fact and I am not I'm not using it any I said I'm not using makes no sense to me why I would

Bricome on here and lie about being on it you're my favorite liar Bri SJ and logic Bri it's okay we forgive you no I forgive you for accusing me of lying

Bribecause I'm not lying I am not using only fans anymore if you guys want it I'm not did you lie about the Virgin thing last show no oh my God so you're trans virgin yes oh okay well at least

Brian Atlasshe admits to the trans virgin thing weate Brie virginity is a mindset you could choose what mindset you want Bri we're making progress okay can can I be get that leave it here ni it's split

Brisorry uh no but look can I can I be trans Nick can I be Nick anymore I've decided my new career is to help guys I want to help guys she's also trans

Brian Atlasnatural booty not do not describe do not subscribe to only fans do not give me money I want to help you okay I want to help you grow your [ __ ] anyways we

Brigot to move on I'm sorry Bri I'm sorry no because you're over here accusing me of stuff and making like putting music on while I'm talking I just don't want to give you any ATT you need to learn anyway you got to make it cross anyway

Briyou got make you come on this podcast and you come on here one your number one goal is to attack two goal listen and three when people have debates like I'm

Briarguing back with you on something that you said you completely ridicule them or make fun of them why don't you listen to what they're saying no I'm just saying it doesn't make no

Brian Atlass the victim what is the point of what is the point of this okay you want me to answer okay you got to be quiet though if you want to hear my answer what is your answer okay so if we're having a debate and you want me to engage you in the debate and I say

Brian Atlasyou lie and you say I'm not lying and I say you lie and you say you're not lying yeah where else is there to go where else is there to go so I'm just that's why I'm moving it on yeah instead of

Briridiculing putting silly [ __ ] on putting music on all that St I can put no instead come on it's it's like you it's beautiful it's a beautiful song free

Bridon't look at me free come on no what I'm saying you come on this podcast you come on this podcast to ridal as soon as someone goes against something you say now they're crazy now

Brithey look now you're ridiculing them now you're making fun of them now you want everyone to bash them you what is the point of your podcast tell me is it really to debate and argue on dating topics or is it to try to make

Brieveryone fit into what you want them to fit into people can disagree with me I don't care okay so when they disagree with you instead of making little sound effects and sounding dumb why don't you actually

Brilisten to them and argue back with them or just say hey look we're done here and that's it if they're arguing in good faith but you're bad faith if you say so and that's fine if you think that way but instead of making little sound

TTSeffects and trying to ridicule and trying to bash just say hey I'm done with this argument that's wait if you're trolling zul going to be bad faith back it is what it is I just wanted her to stop

Britalking men don't need your help they do we they don't need your help that you're literally the last person who help any man needs we established here that we all agree you speak Spanish yes men are

Briturning into feminine men and all this stuff so we all agree with the same thing so someone needs to help them who has the money to help them me who's going to help them me are you doing it are you doing it are you helping men so

Jakethat's your goal in life is that you're saying you want to use your money to help men whilst at the very same time you're taking money off lonely men who are sitting with their [ __ ] in their hand I just said do not give me money I'm not using anymore do not give me money do not subscribe still there is

Bristory bro well I'm telling them not to do it this is why your bad faith you've CAU out my cuz I'm saying don't give me money because I want to help you with my money instead of you giving me money

Brithat's bad faith you have an open only fans account and You' it's been exposed so I'm saying right now don't give me money if anyone who's watching this do not go on my only fans tell me this how much money do you

Jakecurrently have in the bank I'm not I'm not give me a ballpark is it is it more than $100,000 yes would you be willing to give that all to a men's charity tomorrow would I give $100,000 to all the money in your bank everything you

Jakeearned off o because you realized how damaging it was would you give that all back I well that's not everything I earn I know what but you give it to me I'll take it give me that money you are

Briutterly definitely someone who needs my course so I'm going to give you I'm going to give you ACC free free free copy

Jakethe fact that your the fact that your strategy for this show has to become is to come on and try and promote a course but I'm not selling it I just said it was free it's a free telegram so it's

Jakefree you could go for free okay well if you if you move into that your new past J then absolutely but I would recommend giving giving away everything you've earned from o because you've engage we

Brian Atlasgot we we got just disengage just like waste of time uh all right we have to we have as soon as I have valid argument it's a waste of time let's disengage let's move on no you don't have valid arguments I'm moving I got to move [ __ ]

Brian Atlasonid Bri those women should just aspire to be the 1% and be attractive without makeup what's good for the goose is good for the gander this is in response to you saying just be

Briconfident I believe um I Agee that a girl can be attractive without makeup if she just be a 1center yeah just get up there just be attractive just climb just be hot just climb up there just be hot

Briit's not that hard it's not that hard just be hot he he was sorry a little bit ugly and now you look good so obviously if you could do it anybody could do it

Brian Atlasfirst off Jake was a giga Chad in both photos Okay I object to hit you saying that rude good Cal well he's cudd you

Brian Atlasneed to listen to his tips and tricks Brian okay cool uh going back to the makeup thing I should make it co you should make it absolutely you should you

Brian Atlascould be part of my so makeup just 1% guys no one's ever done that before put the last thing on the makeup thing is the functional equivalent of a

Brian Atlasman working at McDonald's saying that he is a lawyer that's my view on makeup also for example I think one

Brian Atlasreason why uh this whole plastic surgery makeup thing is deceptive is aside from just being with a partner who we find aesthetically pleasing and the

Brian Atlasmotivations for that actually relate to uh having children so can we all agree and perhaps I'll direct these this questions to you does

Brian Atlasbeing attractive confer benefits yeah yeah and would you say the benefits of being physically attractive are significant yes okay um and this is well

Brian Atlasstudied people are attractive typically have much better life outcomes treated better they're deemed to be more trustworthy even if you don't know them they receive shorter Criminal sentences

Brian Atlasthey make more money they have more job opportunities Etc um considered to be more competent would would you guys agree that one motivation of being with someone physically attractive is that

Brian Atlasyou would produce attractive children Offspring absolutely yeah so do you agree that we as humans want to confer as many advantages as possible to our children totally okay one of those

Ryan Abieadvantages being physically attractive okay yes can a girl be attract while still wearing makeup though like she can be naturally attractive still

Jakeright but I mean I think I think if if you find them initially attractive without makeup and then like I if I have um my girl and we go out together and I'm I'm dressed up I'm wearing a suit and she wears makeup

Jakethat's fine but as long as it's not a matter of when we get home I've got to sort of like hide her in the house because totally let me just finish my thread on this so like humans are competitive we

Brian Atlaswant to be rich for ourselves for the benefit of our children to provide them with Comforts and security the same can sort of apply to appearance we want to mate with somebody

Brian Atlaswho's attractive so that we have children that are goodlook so that they have a better life and that they can uh have a better easier time finding a partner have you ever heard of that

Brian AtlasChinese guy who sued his wife because she got all this apparently I heard it was aun though I heard I heard it was like a debunk it was like some myth or [ __ ] or something ruing it um but so

Brian Atlasit's like if I want to marry you have kids whatever and you have like plastic surgery and wear a ton of makeup whatever other deceptive practices somebody might employ to make themselves

Brian Atlasmore physically attractive I mean you are pulling on some like very powerful uh biological and evolutionary

Ryan Abielevers yeah to get me to become attracted to you yeah um I think you're going for the super hardcore people who go from like the pictures that we saw

Brian Atlasearlier scale right let's say it's a scale from like no makeup to like full-on Glam right so I mean like maybe most women land somewhere in the middle

Brian AtlasI mean you're still like you're not full Glam you're not like as as deceptive as you can be but you're somewhere in the middle M you're not that attractive

Brian Atlasyou're you're not the even if you're wearing minimal makeup you're still doing it to improve your physical appearance mhm that's not how you actually look you're playing a little trick on men's Brains but what if

Ryan Abieyou're okay with it when she's natural like if you're attracted to her naturally but then also when she wears a little bit of makeup you also think that's really pretty like when you're going out and you're in a suit and she's putting on a dress okay well let me ask you a question so let's say you date a guy you fall in love with him one of the

Brian Atlasreasons you're attracted to him is because you think he's super ambitious and he's you know wealthy provider blah blah blah he's says he's lawyer but he actually works at McDonald's well you've just been trapped into this relationship kind

Brian Atlasof again that's now you've developed feelings for him so now well is it okay that I'm I like this person but you no longer get the benefits of him being what he said he was so if in three month

Brian Atlasevery time you've seen a girl for three months while you're dating she always wore makeup then she takes her makeup off and she's less attractive now well now you've just been baited into a relationship yes I agree with you on that one I'm talking about the naturally

Ryan Abiepretty people is it okay for their them to wear makeup and what's your argument there we're you're talking about McDonald's to lawyer that's a big that's the same as the pictures you showed earlier so what about just the naturally

Brian Atlaspretty people that wear makeup um just to it may very well be the case that a man who if if you wore a bunch of makeup he would have still been

Brian Atlasattracted to you and wanted to date you and whatever had you not worn makeup so yeah sure okay we land we agree that yeah I don't I don't think that's uh

Briyeah okay so you're just talking about ugly people wearing makeup saying ugly people that's kind of what you're saying like that's kind of what iation like wait can you straighten your mic a little bit what what was your point so

Jakeugly people that's deceiving but pretty people it's not I mean the reality of it is yes but it's okay if it's a pretty if you take yourself from a two to a nine that's that's pretty bad like we just saw that there was like some some threes

Jakethere that took themselves to a nine Glam abely but if you're if you're already if you're an eight and you take yourself to an eight and a half I mean yeah how would a three get your attention then if you don't want her to

KJhave she doesn't get it makeup on how does she get anybody's attention she's not going to how can you expect her to not try no but hold on but you're she she plays in

Brian Atlasher League then she dates threes don't try to be dating sevens yeah threes date threes okay it's a hard life have you

KJseen threes out there a hard for three trying to like ask us if are like all of these guys you're like guys can't get girls they can't get y'all so how is it

Jakedifferent are we supposed to date down then this is a this is a minority of of of women like these threes will still date up they'll still probably get themselves a six you know this this does

Jakehappen yeah women women dat up that's why what should the threes do date date threes yeah like if you're a three and you just you go and put all this makeup on yourself and you somehow manag to professionally get yourself to a nine then you're in a position now where

Briyou're entering a lie your whole relationship is predicated on a lie so Brian this isn't to attack you but you called yourself a five so are you dating other fives like those girls some of them were fives so were you dating would you date some of those girls cuz you talking about physical appearance yeah I

Brian Atlaswas talking about physical appearance and I do think it's the case that men for example can uh can uh date outside of their looks range

Brian Atlasbased on other metrics yeah okay but what like yes I'm have no problem dating a woman who's average looking that's totally fine okay

Brian Atlasbut I do think like a guy who's average looking but let's say he has a bunch of status like Drake for example don't think he's like that good-looking of a guy but he's rich and

Brian Atlasfamous he's [ __ ] women who are much more attractive than he is physically speaking that's how it is that's the game no

Brian Atlasyeah no well you just I I'm not trying to like take shots at Drake I think he's an average looking dude he watches the show yeah does he yeah that'd be dope that'd be dope if he did uh so I think men contend to make up and actually

Brian Atlaswomen can make up for it in other ways too how well for example I would much rather date an average looking girl who's like super Pleasant submissive does a bunch of other [ __ ]

Brian Atlasversus like a really hot girl who who's like just an absolute Terror and obnoxious motor mouth that's not everybody well yeah no but like as a

Brian Atlaswoman you can make yourself appealing by absolutely you know I'm going to tell Drake what you said okay I'm tell him that's fine I I don't have any issues with Drake but he's an average looking guy I think

Brian Atlasobjectively speaking he has yeah I agree he could use my course oh my God yeah for all so uh I don't know um what

Brian Atlaswhat were we talking about I don't even know we have a couple more pre-show wait hold on what did we have to get through we were uh hold on guys one sec let me

Brian Atlasget to some of the pre-show notes Here uh let's see sorry guys I'm pulling on my notes we have Jessica oh wait did I finish with uh Ryan

Brian Atlaswait Brian not wanting a woman with a high body oh that duplicates KJS I think right yeah we touched on that okay we already touched on that we're going to go to Jessica here

Brian AtlasJessica Jessica says I've had a guy pretend to be a Christian to get with me yikes and then stabbed me in the back when I told him I didn't like him back yeah so he's like atheist or something

Jessica PJudas yeah yeah so essentially I at that point I was going to a non-denominational church and I was raised Catholic I'm Catholic now and I think I was relying on a lot of the

Jessica Pfluffy things like the coffee shop next to it and a lot of the music and stimulation to um hopefully introduce him to the Lord so I I didn't rely on

Jessica Pthe faith and the fact that um Jesus is enough as he is so I think that was one of my first mistakes when I was trying to introduce him to the faith but we were in a friend group and um everything

Jessica Pwas going well it it was until uh he asked me out to prom and we went as friends that he just completely switched up on me um when I said a couple times

Jessica Pthat I still wasn't interested in him even though he had like officially said he was converted to Christianity um and he just completely spread horrible rumors about me and the

Jessica Pfriend group was a disaster after that and he manipulated kind of what he thought that I was looking for in a man um to try to have a relationship with me

Jessica Pand I still wasn't interested in him what did he say about you what was can you give us the rumors well um his friends were saying that I sent nudes to them which everybody who knows me knows

Jessica Pthat I wouldn't do that so everybody was laughing when they heard about that com so if we went snooping snooping around on the internet we wouldn't secret own events no MH just just a lot of very awful things for a person that I thought I trusted and that

Brian Atlaswas my first emotional relationship he he went all the way to like converting for you my man was into you holy [ __ ] hold on Nick hold on well I I'm going to

Brian Atlascome right back to you Jess uh Nick pull up the private chat Bri look at me look at me right now Bri Bri just look at me don't look at the private chat Bri Bri look at me look

Brian Atlasat me don't do it Nick pull up her in pull up Bri's first Instagram story go the window once you get it got IG you can just click on it

Brian Atlasfirst one yeah oh wait before you do hold on hold on I'm going to read these uh Bri is a path pathological liar she linked her only fans on her Instagram story less than 24 hours ago and he

Brian Atlassends that through twice he also sent it through as an NT what currency is NT n currency where T oh new Taiwan Dollar oh

Brian Atlasyeah it's not much bro wait yeah that's like bro you're you're bro you're a little that's Goblin [ __ ] hold on and wait so 200

Brian AtlasNT hold on how much is that six bucks bro that's a you little Goblin bro okay taian last year uh okay Nick pull it

Brian Atlasup just just go to Instagram click on our first Instagram story go ahead but all white

Brian Atlastheseis so click are you able to click on the more part no just click you want me to no we can't go to it bro that's your [ __ ] only fans

Brian Atlaslink dude on your Instagram well I didn't say when I quit I quit now so so you're a you're a liar see did you see the push back she gave

Briwhen I called her a liar about this you literally have it in your bro oh my God no I quit starting today you didn't ask Wayne I said I'm in the transition this

Jakeis what are you what are you what are you trying to achieve by doing this what's what's what's the goal well you're you're on a show she did just you guys put up everything on your own are are you trying to is money the goal no

Jakeyou guys put up everything on your own listen to me listen to me yeah it's done the ACT is over what let's try let's try let's try she won't let's try and have a real conversation now no she won't let's try and have a real conversation now she

Jakecan't you're on a you're on a show right now with over 10,000 people watching and you've just been exposed for lying we all knew you were lying it was obvious your gri your grift has been exposed and you were saying you were saying you were saying that you wanted to help men and I

Jakeknow you don't realize because you you probably haven't quite logicked this out enough that what you've actually done tonight is pretty Sinister and it's pretty malicious because you've come out in one side of your mouth saying that you want to help guys and you want to teach people and help men men to be

Bribetter and that you care so much about men whil on in the other side of your mouth oh my God let me ask you something is being our only fans that detrimental to men's society that shifting the goal posts who cares you lied that's okay but

Brino I didn't lie because I am quitting I said I was in the process of transitioning out of it and you guys said what does that mean what does that mean can somebody clip the part where she's like I don't I'm not on only fans I exactly I'm not you're you're just you're a liar and I'm what I'm trying to

Jakeask is like what what's the point of it is it money because you've just been exposed lying and being two faces on a podcast and I know you don't care you're trying to troll and eventually you want people to sign up okay I'm not even

Jakegoing to talk yeah but is it worth it though cuz you might make a few thousand bucks that's what I'm saying you might make a few thousand bucks but your image is now tarnished for you look terrible Terri no I'm going to I'm going to ask you something how is it

Brifor no how is it for money like what did I do did I asked you to pull up my only fans did I ask you to pull up my Instagram did I even ask to come here Brian asked me to come here how you've shifted responsibility from yourself there is some very high level metal

Brigymnastics and I'm I'm impressed no I'm saying I didn't ask you guys so if my goal was to make money out of this one I would have asked to come here but invited me back so you've come in here

Brian Atlaswith your out yeah actually I invited you back to be on with Andrew Wilson but for last Sunday cuz Andrew Wilson was going to excoriate you but unfortunately you canell cuz apparently what was the

Briexcuse I had a cyst on my OV I had surgery on my cyst so don't even get into you were supposed to be on with Andrew Wilson that would have been beautiful that would have beautiful it

Briwas really painful I wish I didn't have that sis but M okay but anyways I like I said he invited invited me back on here I came back last show didn't go well he invited me back I came back well he

Jakekicked me off at the end I don't know why actually I think it was a big W because you admitted to having Chatters who and fire my Chatters so anyone who goes on your own fans will never ever talk to you and you say that

Jakeyou you speak to guys and you rep you reply to them my DM you don't talk to anybody you're lying about actually and sing actually guys can show screenshots of them talking to me on Instagram they

Brican show screenshots of someone talking they can also show screenshots of someone talking to them on only fans well no one has Chatters for Instagram that's ridiculous no that's unheard of if someone were to go through Instagram

BriDMS and actually answer everything but anyways like I said I didn't ask you guys to pull up anything so if my goal was to make money I would have been like pull up my Instagram pull up my oan

Jakesubscribe no I'm not saying that you're just you're just a liar you're not making any sense and like it's it's tragic and I'm sorry that doing that it's yeah I said the

Briopposite I said the opposite that's not me that's Nick bro no you take take it up with the neck take it off the neck take it with your

Brian Atlaslittle I'm sorry I'm not controlling that [ __ ] it's [ __ ] Nick over there I'm sorry Nick's just all right I'm sorry why you get no yeah this is why you have no no I got

Brino [ __ ] I got no hoes no ho I'm I'm down bad I'm down you are very down badad but anyways my goal was not on here to try and make no money the course is free

Briokay Brian what do you gain from that let me ask you that what do you gain from that what do you gain from that what do you gain using my line of question what do you gain from that what

Brido you gain from that what you gain from that way okay any way do you know the way if I were to come on here to try and I'm just going to look at you because I'm talking to you I don't care about

Brithis I don't care about them I don't care about what Brian's doing down a Godly [ __ ] fire sto upon you you're going have call [ __ ] United na [ __ ]

Bricome and I promote something that I would make money mother you AG I will hear what you're saying I will [ __ ] you up Brian if you want to have like a podcast where people can actually see

Briwhat's going on maybe you should like not do that so we can you can listen cuz he can't hear I can already tell that I don't like you okay you asked me to come back on here

Briyou asked me to come back on I didn't ask to come on here so that's the number one thing no come I didn't ask you to pull up anything okay so besides that I'm not promoting anything I said don't give me

Jakemoney on yeah go ahead what go ahead you just said you're not promoting anything yeah you literally posted your

Jakelink on your story but everyone saw it everyone knows you're a liar you can try and defend yourself honest I hope you make a few bucks I hope you do I said I don't need a few thousand bucks I could tell you that for then what are you doing here embarrassing yourself in front of the whole world I'm not embarrassing myself

BriI came on here because he invited me and I was like you know what I'm going to go back on there maybe it'll be better this time it's not but we're on here might as well make the best of I'm not going to

Bristand up and walk out he asked me to come back on here if it was me asking to come on here one thing he asked me to come on here hey good for you not making a point okay I

Brialready said I am making a point I'm not promoting anything I said do not give me money on only F he asked a bunch of other girls to come on as well and they all operated in good fith no she asked to come on here I'm pretty sure most of

Jakethem has to come on here you were invited but she said she has to come on here and that's her experience for you God help any man who goes near you in a relationship in

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