FAKE VlRGlN CONFRONTED?! Liar Claims She DOES NOT Have A BBL?! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #154

Date: 2024-04-22

Duration: 5h 55m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBri (DT154-Panama)>

JJessica (DT154-PM)>

JJessica P (DT154)>

AAlexa Morgan >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Jessica (project manager)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_04Jake(guest)

SPEAKER_05Alexa Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_06Bri(guest)

SPEAKER_07KJ(guest)

SPEAKER_08Ryan Abie(guest)

SPEAKER_09Jessica P(guest)

SPEAKER_10Jess(guest)

Key Moments

IntroShow intro. Brian Atlas welcomes viewers to the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating”

IntroBri introduces herself: from Miami, Panamanian, 'changing the world' by teaching men. Jake immediately challenges her philosophy.

“Miami and um my occupation is changing the world”

ControversyBri claims 'virginity is a mindset' — after Alaska epiphany she can choose to be a trans virgin. Brian coins the term. Jake challenges her biblically.

“and my new revelation I had in Alaska virginity is a mindset okay”

IntroGuest introductions: Jess (20, server/student, San Diego), KJ (24, sales, Texas), Ryan Abie (24, Texas, traditional), Jessica (28, project manager, Silicon Valley), Jessica P (21, pro-life activist, South Carolina), Jake (28, Australia, YouTuber).

“I'm Jess I'm 20 and um I'm a server”

IntroAlexa Morgan (35, virgin, oncology nurse) introduced. Brian is visibly shocked she's a virgin. 'That's the face she made — shocked the first time she ever met a real virgin'

“are you a virgin I am yes oh perfect make that face again”

Key MomentAlexa Morgan — 35yo virgin deep dive: explains her position, standards, faith. Brian asks: would she die a virgin? Alexa: 'If I can't find somebody then I will probably die a virgin and I'm okay with that.'

“I think if I can't find somebody then I will probably die a virgin and I'm okay with that”

Key MomentWho would you rather date? audience poll — Bri vs Alexa. Alexa wins 86% to 14% on YouTube; 80% to 20% on Twitch. Brian: 'Even though Alexa is 6 years older, she wins easily.'

“86% 86% so Alexa won 86% to Bri and then over there on YouTube 8020”

Key MomentBBL confrontation: Brian shows Bri's Instagram profile and old photos. Video shown appears to demonstrate pre/post body change. Audience poll: ~50% say she has a BBL. Bri: 'I never got a BBL. I got my boobs and my teeth done and my hair done.' Brian and Jake push back; Bri maintains denial throughout.

“asked you I think if you had any lipo and if you had a BBL nope give me a break”

QuoteBri: 'I got my boobs done I'll tell you that. I got my veneers done in Miami. I got my teeth done in Miami and I got hair extensions. But I didn't get BBL.'

“boobs and my teeth done and then I would lie about having my butt done”

ControversyBri's OnlyFans link found in her Instagram story less than 24 hours before taping — exposed as lying about quitting. Brian reads it out. Bri says she's 'quitting starting today.' Jake: 'Your grift has been exposed.' Brian calls her a 'pathological liar.' Bri argues she didn't ask them to pull up her Instagram.

“link dude on your Instagram well I didn't say when I quit I quit now so so you're a you're a liar”

QuoteJake calls out Bri's hypocrisy: 'You've come in here one side of your mouth saying you want to help men while on the other side you have that only fans still going. That's not only dishonest — that's actually malicious.'

“you've come in here and you said I'm like a manifesting virgin or whatever”

Key MomentBri put in the corner as show punishment. Brian: 'There you go. Think about what you've done.'

“get in the corner there you go think about what you've done Bri okay”

Key MomentJessica P debates Bri on abortion: life begins at conception; right to life precedes all other rights. Bri: anti-death penalty. Jessica P presses inconsistency: if you're anti-death penalty for guilty people, how can you be pro-choice for an innocent fetus?

“human life biologically begins a conception so I think the right to life precedes any other right”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and announcements

Brian's standard intro: support via streamlabs, TTS donations, memberships, merch, non-profit mention, disclaimer.

Bri's intro and philosophy

Bri introduces herself: from Panama, 'changing the world' by teaching men, formerly tried to be a teacher. Jake immediately challenges her on what her course teaches. Bri describes 3 pillars: spirituality (manifestation/prayer), physical, financial.

Bri's trans virgin claim / virginity is a mindset

Brian asks about prior virgin claim. Bri reveals Alaska epiphany: 'virginity is a mindset' — you can choose to be a virgin. Jake challenges biblically. Bri says sex = creation therefore non-sex = virginity. Brian coins 'trans virgin' framing.

Guest introductions round

All guests introduce: Jess (20, server/student, SD), KJ (24, sales, TX), Jessica (28, project manager, Silicon Valley), Jessica P (21, pro-life activist, SC), Jake (28, Australian YouTuber), Ryan Abie (24, TX, traditional).

Relationship status round

All guests describe current relationship status and longest relationship. Brian probes each. KJ almost got engaged at 19-20; Ryan single 6 months; Jess in talking stage 2 weeks; Jessica P longest relationship 2 months; Alexa never had a boyfriend.

Alexa Morgan: 35yo virgin deep dive

Brian discovers Alexa is 35 and a virgin — shocked reaction (makes 'face'). Extended discussion of why: Christian upbringing, waiting for right person, standards discussion. Jake joins on Christian perspective. Alexa's work as oncology nurse contextualized. Would die a virgin if right person never comes.

Dating app review segment

Brian reviews female dating app profiles with panel. Discussed which profiles they'd swipe on, what makes good/bad profiles, quirky self-descriptions as icks.

Who would you rather date? Bri vs Alexa poll

Audience poll: would you rather date Bri or Alexa? Alexa wins 86% on YouTube, 80% on Twitch. Brian notes Alexa is 6 years older than Bri but still wins easily.

BBL confrontation — Bri's surgical history

Brian pulls up Bri's Instagram profile on stream. Photos shown. Brian accuses Bri of having BBL. Bri denies: 'I never got a BBL.' Admits to boob job, veneers, hair extensions. Video shown appears to show pre/post change. Audience poll ~50% say BBL. Bri: 'Why would I lie about having my butt done when I'm honest about the boobs?'

Chivalry and traditional gender roles debate

Brian asks what women bring to first dates if they expect traditional treatment from men. Ryan defends chivalry as attractive. Panel debates whether 'looking nice' is specifically traditional. Jake argues women with liberal views still expect traditional male behavior.

Ryan Abie's dating app review

Ryan's dating app profile reviewed: she was drunk when friends made it; turned off after 1 week. Prompts: 'chivalrous' and 'TSA' (co-worker Tyler made those). Brian pushes on what she brings to dating relationship.

KJ's dating app review

KJ's dating app profile reviewed: 'first round is on me, guess my real name', 'key to my heart is fat margarita on the rocks', calls herself Mama. Jake says don't put jokes on profile. Brian asks KJ about commitment and marriage beliefs.

Body count reveals and double standard debate

Ryan states body count 5. Jess states body count 5. KJ disagrees with Brian's position that men can have high body counts while preferring low body counts in women. Extended philosophical debate about biological reasons, evolutionary logic, hypocrisy argument. Bri argues biology explains male higher body counts; Jake and Brian argue women's promiscuity is more damaging.

Pre-show notes discussion: Jess on feminist label

Brian confronts Jess who wrote 'feminist' in pre-show notes but walks it back. She doesn't want to debate feminism. Brian presses her; she refuses to engage. Brian warns he'll stop trying to engage her if she keeps stonewalling.

Men scared of commitment debate

Panel round: are men scared of commitment? Various answers. KJ says guys her age are scared. Brian presents divorce statistics (80% female-initiated). Panel says women mostly end their own relationships. Brian asks: could men's commitment hesitancy be justified by women predominantly ending things?

Marriage debate — KJ vs Brian

KJ disagrees with Brian's anti-marriage position. Argues marriage is a daily choice, love is a choice. Brian argues marriage doesn't bind women to stay, creates financial risk for men. KJ says if going in thinking of divorce you're with wrong person. Jess adds: strong love doesn't need a piece of paper (either way). Jessica (PM) adds legal argument: gay uncle's partner lost everything without marriage.

Intelligence self-rating round

Chat question: rate your intelligence 0-200 (200 = Einstein). Jessica P: 40-50. Jessica (PM): 120-130. Jake: 'we're all tens.' Brian: 5. Bri: declined.

Dating advice for men

Panel gives dating advice for men. Ryan and Jessica P: just have confidence / fake it til you make it. KJ: shoot your shot. Jessica (PM): find strong male role models; find someone who vibes with you in person. Jake: accomplishment breeds competence.

Dangerous jobs / wage gap discussion

Video shown: helicopter cell tower stacking. Brian and Jake argue male-dominated dangerous jobs disprove the wage gap narrative. Bri argues her truck driver father makes six figures. Jake says most men can't become 'top 1%' — Bri disagrees from Panama immigrant story.

Show outro and Twitch raid

Brian wraps up. Mentions $2,000 scam by David Spearman Stevens (Dubai). Bri promotes her Snap (123). Jake mentions Reality Based Podcast. Brian raids 82yo woman (Grandma) playing World of Warcraft on Twitch.

Makeup and deception debate

Before/after makeup transformation photos shown on-stream (women transforming dramatically with heavy makeup). Panel debates: is this deception? Jake draws parallel to man flashing borrowed Rolex. Brian argues makeup is like lying about your career. Bri says deception. Jessica P argues men's visual stimulation makes this understandable.

Bri's OnlyFans and course — Jake confrontation

Jake challenges Bri: she's taking money from lonely men via OnlyFans while simultaneously claiming she wants to help men for free. Bri: I don't post anymore. Brian: it's still up. Jake: your worldview is counterintuitive and sinister. Extended back-and-forth.

Bri's OnlyFans exposed — Instagram story confrontation

Viewer sends Brian Bri's Instagram story with OnlyFans link from <24 hours ago. Brian reads it out. Bri says she's quitting 'starting today.' Jake: 'Your grift has been exposed.' Bri: 'I didn't ask you to pull up my Instagram.' Extended confrontation. Brian: 'You're a pathological liar.' Bri put in corner briefly.

Bri put in corner

Brian asks Bri to stand in the corner and 'think about what you've done.' Show punishment for repeated disruption and dishonesty.

Abortion / pro-life debate

Jessica P debates Bri on abortion. Jessica P: life begins at conception, right to life precedes all other rights. Bri: anti-death penalty. Jessica P presses Bri on inconsistency. Jess (SPEAKER_10): pro-choice up to first trimester. Jake: pro-life position is intellectually indefensible to challenge because all biologists agree life starts at conception.

Transcript

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Jessica (project manager)to me and I recognize that and and when you are dating someone and you date someone that has he was former military he did two tours to Afghanistan I dealt with [ __ ] I will tell you that in a relationship and I loved him through all of that and he was

Jessica (project manager)someone that wasn't willing to admit or go through it with someone else and I even had family members of his say hey you know what he might not be a good guy and I said that is something I take into consideration and I'm going to be honest

Jessica (project manager)and like I said the way I date is I say if I this is someone that I can date seriously and if I had a son who was like him and I can be proud of him I will stay in this relationship I got to the point where I said I'm afraid if I

Jessica (project manager)had a son just like him I would be afraid of my son so I said I need to leave and the fact that I happened to catch him cheating at the same time I I had a a suspicion Every Woman Every Woman feels it at some point and you

Jessica (project manager)think you go crazy when you feel it and I even told him the week prior to catching them cheating I said if there's someone else if you want to be in a different relationship that's totally fine tell me now cuz I was 24 at the time and I said you're not going to take

Jessica (project manager)my best years I was like real talk I'm going to give you 3 years and if there's not a certain rock on a certain fingerer I'm going to walk out not cuz I don't think you're a great guy but because I'm not going to commit to someone who's not willing to commit to me especially I

Jessica (project manager)agree when you're younger this is your Prime make the most of it don't [ __ ] it up yeah I was going to say he kind of took your best years cuz you're like 2 I was 24 I went to the next relationship 24 is still young I went to the next

Jakerelationship it was a great relationship he got deported I can't control immigration that's that's not in my business do you want to get married as well do you want to have kids you don't no it's not in the plans

Briat all do you think that that's because you're young and the things that you're doing at the moment on on um well besides like the whole three husbands thing like I just don't want a relationship I don't believe in monogamy either what do you want to do with your

Jakelife what what looks good for you in 20 years time when you're sitting there 43 years old or however old you'll be where do you hope to be I'm going to be

Jessica (project manager)manifest helping people just helping people as much as I can can I ask you one question I'm just curious what think what makes you think you have the credentials or the knowledge and superiority to give anyone else advice

Briso I really don't but I know a lot of people and also living in Miami like you're con very well connected so so you know other people that know knowledge I know experts and I have the resources to

Bribring so you don't know anything is what you're saying I know what I know I know my knowledge but I can't have all the answers and that's just the truth nobody has all the answers I can't sit here and say no I have all the answers the dating

Jessica (project manager)and I'm going to save your life like I have to bring in help you know what do you know you specifically not your friends not your connections what do you

Briknow I know that you need to find that confidence within yourself first and believe that you are truly worth it to

Bribefore you ever even look at anyone else I agree so you shouldn't be looking at someone else like maybe they'll save me maybe they'll make me better maybe I'll be happier if I'm with them you can't

Jessica (project manager)get any of that unless you do that yourself I 100% agree so if I went on so if I went on 50 dates and I knew my worth and I knew that just because someone was interested in me that I didn't want to settle for that what what

Briis different than what you're advising um I don't think you should even wasted your time on those dates then how would you know you've never met these people well you're not with them now like what what value did they bring

Jessica (project manager)it was a quick date it was efficient it was it was I respected their time I didn't spend several weeks with them talking on an app I said hey would you like to meet for a coffee they said yeah let's go spend an hour of my time if an

Jakehour of our time went really well and we 50 hours yeah you work that in a week if you actually work a real job to invest in a relationship from a guy's perspective it can be slightly red flag if they go on heaps of dates but the

Jakefact that you're like not leading them on is is a good thing if you go on a date and you say hey I'm not so interested you can deal with that for sure but if you lead them on and you're dating the same 14 guys and none of them know that that you're not interested then that's bad but if you tell them at

Jakethe end of the day hey enjoyed your time not really interested but thank you that's fine like sleeping with the I want to know like it's a practical thing to do first where did you find these

Briguys dating naps dating app so you think you're going to find a high value Mana dating app it's a possibility I was trying to she's on Rya so I guess it's

Brian Atlasbetter over there I guess um I'm ariia and I could tell you now that you're not going to find a why is there like a little animosity here you know what I almost feel cuz you you seem to be coming for Alexa here a little bit I'm

Brinot I'm just saying you asked me for my opinion and this like a c right now but then she got a little defensive I'm trying to say don't get defensive I'm not attacking you I'm not defensive bring it on I'm I'm happy you know what

Brian Atlaswe should do we should let the viewers decide we're going to let the viewers decide so cuz you're kind of coming at her you know look she you're making saying things about her age and stuff I

Brian Atlasthink we should let the viewers decide we're gonna do a segment called who would you rather date and we're gonna have Bri versus Alexa hat me pull up their Instagrams you're going to pull up

Jaketheir Instagrams they kicked me off I'm I'm actually going to do we're going to pull up their Instagrams and I don't for the record Bri I have no animosity towards you okay can I suggest that we have them that them like State their

Jessica (project manager)case as why they're not they're making this out of nowhere I'm not trying to attack you I'm just saying like I have no problem with you coming from for me and saying I'm 20 I actually I agree can you do on ttch if I was hooking up with a different person every random day and

Jessica (project manager)I was trying to find find love through that yeah absolutely I hope one of my friends would be like girl come on let's be real you're not in your early 20s I didn't even do that in my early 20s though yeah wait Bri is your name is it

Briwith an e at the end no or just b r i b r i i two I what are you crazy b r i i e l l a s no I'm just going to do Brie that's

Brioh you're just writing my name Bri and then two x's right okay we're going to do a poll we're going to do a poll they literally came me off show last

Brian Atlastime so I'm not going to consider this I'm talking about no they may like you a little bit so there's the poll came kicked me off of your last time oo okay that's pretty rough so far hold on don't

Brian Atlaspull it up yet and then is it on Twitch I don't know let me see if it's on does anybody have say your okay so here's guys here's what we're going to do you each have a 30C opening stat guys guys guys you each have a 30C

Brian Atlasopening statement to make your case why they should date you instead of the other person so go ahead go ahead Bri you start first don't date me I'm not competing just I'm not competing for

Brian Atlassome losers on the internet I don't care about them I don't care did you just bro don't don't call them losers bro okay but I don't care about them first off I'll have you know everybody all the 10,000 people who are watching currently

Briare all [ __ ] gigachad millionaires huge penis all of them well I'm never going to say why I'm better than another woman because I honestly don't consider myself better than any other woman how do I do

Bria PLL on Twitch just just answer do you think that some women are better than other women I feel like some women can be more confident in themselves but that doesn't make them better do you think that you'd rather have a baby with a 24y old woman

Jakethan a 34y old woman well a 34y old like she practically can't have a do you think that implies do you think that implies standards that some things are better than other

Brium I don't I personally myself I would not sit here and try to say why it's better to date me than date her cuz so you just you just criticized her for being 28 okay that's your opinion fair enough but then you're implying that

Brithere's something better if they're younger so that would no I'm not saying that being that if she was younger I'm saying if you want to have a baby you need to hurry up because you have like six years left and I think that that's a that's a good point but all I'm asking

Jakeyou is you're saying that you don't think some women are better than women like what are you talking about okay the twitch PLL is going up you have one minute to answer okay no no no no no you're keep going I was just no I was just saying um you you were saying that you don't think that they're standard

Briyou're saying that some women are not better than other women oh I'm saying me personally I am not I don't care what anyone else thinks why do you even get out of bed in the morning

Briif I am not going to sit here and be like oh you should date me because I am this or I do this like no why not because that is the dumbest thing I I'm

Brinot going to compete with a woman like that especially not for men so what else did you compete with women full I don't compete for men first of all cuz like I said I'm not interested in getting married or having kids

Jessica (project manager)so just help okay State your case Alexa O Okay so sort of along the lines wait tilt your mic down oh sort of along the lines of what oh that doesn't work

Jessica (project manager)it needs to be I tighten it this way yeah perfect oh the sides loose hold on is that good yeah you're good so first of all I will say I don't compete with other women I think it's it's a waste of time because here's the

Jessica (project manager)thing my mama said since I was I was raised by a single mom and I will say she's always said there's always going to be someone prettier than you smarter than you taller than you thinner than you all you can work on is being the best that you can be so if you focus on what other women are doing you're always

Jessica (project manager)going to be let down Point Blank period that's beautiful for me I will say I don't come up from the most great background and I recognize that so I this is your pitch I'm I'm getting into

Jessica (project manager)it I don't know okay all right so it's one of those things like you're a Salesman sorry not a Salesman okay sorry sorry sorry woman my bad but it's one of those things like be I something that differentiates me from other women is I

Jessica (project manager)can recognize my flaws and the things that I need to work on and I don't think I'm high in Mighty and above those things so I have worked on those for the past several years of my life how do you know that that separates you from other women because a lot of women aren't willing to admit wrong how did You observe that by competing with other

Brian Atlaswomen anyways no by hearing from other people and it's also working in a m do I have private chat pull that up in another tab then we'll have the YouTube chat visible before we see the results of the poll I'm going to read we know

Briwhat the result and I don't have a pitch because I'm not going to sit here and tell some people on the internet hey please pick me I I'm the one you want to marry I promise like I'm not going neither of us are pck me that's that's

Brian Atlasnot even the wor shut the [ __ ] up hold on stop stop like oh but I recogniz stop the woman prattle hold on that's on me not you stop stop stop stop stop stop hold on let me read

Brian Atlasnever said silence okay Nickelodeon how are you going to teach men when you can't form a coherent sentence she just wants to find men with enough time and money to waste a lockdown do you want to respond to

BriNickelodeon I have formed plenty of coherent sentences just like the one I just formed one second ago so all right cool and then we have bro why do they always want to kick me

Brian Atlasoff thank you man hold on I'm going to up crawl daddyy here hey thank you Jessica has the vibe of a girl I fall in love with right before I get drafted into World War

Brian AtlasI and then I carry around a little picture of her in my Bible a that's cute that's such a like compliment I've ever received yeah it's like a very interesting unique compliment all right

Brian AtlasNick can you pull up the twitch and then I want uh the Youtube chat visible over there too so pull up the twitch that I sent you in the private chat and you can just pause it go uh

Brian Atlashide hide the for you oh my God it's [ __ ] wait there's got to be a better way to do this hold on hold on get okay on the for you side hide that [ __ ] on

Brian Atlasthe side okay hide it yeah just hide that you'll have to pull it back up now it's this is going to be and then pull over the YouTube pull over the YouTube this is

Brian Atlasgoing to be like Inception Ridiculousness wait is the pole gone holy [ __ ] the top no on Twitch did it disappear on Twitch sorry guys we're [ __ ] amateurs over there on Twitch

Brian Atlasall right never mind we're just gonna have to do it based off of the YouTube one I missed the results rip uh those of you watching on Twitch I'm in the chat now can you just tell me who won the poll like what were the

Brian Atlasnumbers on the poll over there on what was the results for the poll on Twitch 86 for said what

Brian Atlaswas the per does it say a percentage 86% 86% so Alexa won 86% to Bri and then over there on YouTube it looks like it's

Brian Atlas8020 yeah 8020 in favor of Alexa so Bri I mean even though you know six years younger I mean Alexa's edging you out here what's going on bri I never said

Brithat I was the better option over here and when you asked me to put my pitch I didn't put a pitch cuz I never said I was the better option and they kicked me off last time and they're saying kick

BriBri off please right now so I'm not going to take that seriously you don't want to so oh yeah should we do their Instagrams really quick CU Brian I feel

Brian Atlaslike you trying to put us like against each other it's not bro you were sniping at her for like 10 minutes I wasn't sniping at her I was saying that she needs to table was she sniping at her there some Snipes there there were some

BriSnipes I was not trying to snipe at her I was being realistic I just say what's on my mind honestly I have no filter so that's just my problem thank you

Brian Atlasthank you um let's do the Instagrams really quick Alexa first I'm never on instagr all right there's Alexa's on the whatever podcast boom Jesus Lover World traveler ex googler wait you used to

Brian Atlaswork at Google I did good times adrenaline junkie former Miss teenage California 2014 10 years ago okay recipient of three gold three gold presidential

Brian AtlasService Awards what wait what's that so I have uh was that George Bush who gave that [ __ ] to you uh that was Obama Obama so I have a lotun hours just kidding just kidding good good times uh scroll

Jessica (project manager)down a bit Nick let's see some of the all right there she is okay I don't post often this is like the past four years all in like all right Game of Thrones she's on the throne I like your

Brian AtlasInstagram it's very wholesome now is that [ __ ] AR on Grande What the fu looks like it I got pulled inung now now we're going to see Breeze we're uh we're pulling up Breeze

Brian Atlasinstagam here oh that's uh Haram we can okay oh my God Bri I need to actually ask you something that I brought up last show but okay um scroll

Brian Atlasdown Nick scroll down bro this is Haram Haram to Pro I mean it's on Instagram so

Brian AtlasI assume it's fine Bri what is this Bri okay um that's me Bri I got to listen be

Brihonest yeah I asked you previously yeah we were talking about plastic surgery yeah you said you hadn't had plastic surgery well I had my Bo on and your lips correct I never had my lips done I have my boobs done and my teeth done the

Bricontouring of your face doesn't suggest that you've never had your lips done well I'm sorry to tell you that why okay we did this last time I'm going to be honest about the things that got done because why would I lie about getting my

Brian Atlaslips done but I'm honest about getting no you can just tell by the contouring of someone's face if their lips are natural well I can tell you what I got done and myth I'm less interested in the lips I'm more interested so I think I

Brian Atlasasked you I think if you had any lipo and if you had a BBL nope give me a break three you've got a no never you've got two full basketballs in there why

Brian Atlasnever Bri I never got a BBL okay but hold on just just so you don't try to like weasle your way around this conversation did you have maybe there's

Brian Atlasa different procedure that was focused on on your butock that is not called a BBL have you had a procedure done have you had any enhancements any

Brian Atlasenhancements to the the the the gluteus maximus region no like I said bro GRE I went it's right there on your Instagram

Brithis thing isn't even a my Instagram is my ass someone possible that's what I'm known for no actually okay so I'm going to tell you a quick little thing I blew up on Twitter when I was 15 years old

Brifor having a fat ass I'm sorry I know Yik bro yeah I was yeah I was 15 years old I posted a picture of me and a bikini that's how I blew up on Instagram that's how I blew up on Twitter that's

Brian Atlashow the following I have thank you for sharing is because I've just had a fat ass hold pull that pull her Instagram back up this is so CA this is so click

Brian Atlason the first photo yeah brav I'm sorry like okay you can see it actually bro Bri come on dude so go go um question

Brifor you Brian why would I why would I be honest about having my boobs son and my teeth Arrow no back Nick yeah Arrow yeah why would I be honest about having my

Briboobs and my teeth done and then I would lie about having my butt done more people lie about you got the B Bri why you lying bro Bri you have a BBL stop lying wait hold on does the girl next to you have a BBL yes Amanda has probably

Brian Atlaslike eight bbls bro you guys got like the exact same thing hold on uh next well wait uh hold on no like is there one more wait

Brian Atlashold on God damn move [ __ ] frat get the [ __ ] out of here God damn bro how long has this [ __ ] go okay oh my God trans bubble bite I'm sorry bro but it just don't look that don't look normal

Brinext I think the last no there's a video go ahead this is where you can definitely tell hold up I look way skinnier than like you could tell which one's fake and which one's

Brian Atlasreal hold on what the we can see it moving dude that I'm sorry Bri you got a BBL why you lying son like two sa of Po I'm not going to

Brisit here and lie about having a BBL and then be like but I got my titties and my teeth done and I have hair extensions excuse us you called yourself a uh virgin because you manifested it so excuse us for not trusting you I'm going to be honest we need to do another poll

Briwe're doing another poll in the because does she have a BBL is the poll well if they followed me since I was 15 they would know so you're saying no one's going to admit to following you a lot of my followers are watching this and they

Brian Atlasknow that it's so Bri just just so we have it definitively you have not had any modification besides GL my teeth my boobs what about the Lipo though boobs

Briteeth what about the Lipo look how skinny I am look at my arm I have fat for lipo you think I have fat for lipo look at my arm how skinny I am but there's something that happens to the

Brian Atlasstomach when you get lipo like it it it skinny like it tightens your belly button the my belly button looks normal look at my belly button dude I'm not you

Brimight have LiPo belly bre I don't have LiPo belly cuz I never had lipo I am so skinny and I've been so skinny my whole life there is no way I could possibly

Briget lipo like no way there's no fat to get look at my stomach there's no fat to get out of my stomach that is how skinny I am You're such it's just like even if

Brian AtlasI wanted a BBL I'm not 100% certain on the B uh excuse me on the Lipo I'm not 100% certain on the Lipo there are some signs of it I don't but come on you got to

Brian Atlasfess up you got to confess I weigh 110 lb okay for moving on from the Lipo thing I'm not I'm not 100% on the Lipo 10B I can't you've had something for the

Bribooty I don't know if it's implants I don't know if it's BBL why you why you never got BBL because I'm too skinny for a BBL I've been 110 lbs since I was like

Bri12 years old [ __ ] liar you're a [ __ ] liar well I don't care does I got my boobs done I'll tell you that does she have a BBL I'll tell you all what I did get done I have my B by Dr

BriMiami I got my veneers done in Miami I'll do that I got my teeth done in Miami and I got hair extensions those are all the modifications I'm starting

Brian Atlasthe poll does she have no BBL no at shots it's it's like right why do I have a perfect body I don't know Brian oh my God kill me I don't think a BBL butt is perfect I think it actually looks worse than the normal butt to be honest well I

Bridon't have a BBL why does my body look like it's fake I have no idea that's just how I was born did you forget did you forget the plastic surgery you got no I know what I got I got my boobs done

Briand I'm getting them done again in June and I told you this last time yeah I'm getting my boobs done again cuz I want to get them bigger oh my God B what are you doing so I'm going to get my boobs done

Bribigger okay that's I'm not going to lie about surgery and then be honest about half the surgeries but lie about other fix like if I was saying if I was saying

BriI have no surgery at all I'm totally natural then it'd be like okay like stop lying but why would I sit here and I think we should ban plastic surgery what do you think Jake I don't know sometimes it looks good if I were to say oh I got

Brimy boobs done and my teeth done and my hair done but I didn't get BBL and be lying about that like why would I lie about one cuz obviously the ass is somewhat of a feature that you're somewhat proud of but I'm selling my

Jakeboot honestly I'm selling my body my boobs and my butt yeah there it's a moing girls will come into to these podcast and they'll say all kinds of things that aren't true to attract to certain audience now the guys think that your ass is real and there's a novelty cuz otherwise you're just another girl

Briwith a baby L but you have a natural one ex exactly that's what I'm saying mine is real I had I didn't like my boobs so I got fake boobs now I have fake boobs

BriI'm selling I'm selling my whole body basic on the internet I'm selling my boobs my butt I got thake boobs and I will be honest about that you don't have to be honest

Jessica (project manager)we can tell yeah so I'm going to be open about I'm not going to be here like oh I didn't get my boobs and they're real they're real like and here's the thing I have no problem with plastic surgery if that's what you want to do to make yourself feel better and more confident

Brithat I just don't like when people lie about it be careful you don't end up looking like Michael though I yeah well I don't like when people lie about getting surgery oh Bri you're lying about it right now I'm not I'm not she's

Brigoing to come in here in a few years literally looking like Michael and then like it's all it's all real just you know what it's not it is not who hurt you it is not an offense to me to say

Brithat I look like I got surgery because a lot of girls pay a lot of money for that so the fact that I was naturally given some of the features that girls want even if you paid for it it's not a big

Jessica (project manager)deal but it's like just own up for it that's the whole thing like BR your lips aren't real your nose aren't real your fillers real my nose isn't realse you don't you have it P I'm actually getting my nose done in June because I

Jessica (project manager)don't like my nose don't get your nose done it's a beautiful nose don't don't my done in June because beautiful girl you're a beautiful girl know your work manifest it and know that you don't need to get that stuff no but I'm I'm

Briliterally getting my nose and my boobs redone in June because I don't like my nose and I want bigger boobs I'm open about the surgery I'm getting I tell everybody when I was getting my boobs done I posted all over Tik Tok so you've

Brihad your boobs done twice I've got my boobs done once itce no I got my boobs done once February 15th by Dr Miami I posted it I'm trying to I'm trying I

Bridon't know why he thinks that okay I had boobs before I was a C cup before Brian thinks that I got my boobs done before mhm I was just born that way I didn't

Brilike them I wanted them bigger plastic no I was born with SE cups I don't know popped out the [ __ ] womb okay well I'm not going to argue it's kind of a compliment they think

TTSthat it's fake because it looks good so they think it so actually I I'm I think plastic surgery makes women look worse well I don't have surgery $200 can we Chuck Norris style

Brian Atlasroundhouse kick Bri out of here no violence we're not going to Roundhouse kicker no yeah and bbl's don't look good yeah bbl's don't look good well good thing I don't have a

Brian AtlasBBL good thing I don't have a BBL All Right Moving On Moving on but I don't lie about that stuff wait this just in your plastic surgeon is about to like

Brian Atlasget [ __ ] up with HIPPA cuz he just dm'd me and he's like bro she's got a BB I'm just kidding oh to say Hippa out the

Brian Atlaswindow it's all [ __ ] up obviously like unless Dr Miami is dming you right now I don't know anyways okay we're coming back really quick to we were

Jessica (project manager)doing your dating app profile review um pull it up one more time just quick through like one sec three seconds what's up the first so you really think my nose was fake wait what the the the edge is tipped like the tip of your nose

Jessica (project manager)is pinched and then your lips are full that's juvaderm not um you think my nose is fake so I shouldn't get it done in June I think you have a great nose I don't think you should touch your nose honestly don't touch it all right you

Brian Atlashave a beautiful nose Okay so this was Jess yaps too much just pass through real quick yep yep that's it that's it oh okay you

Brian Atlasyaap too much Jess what what do you mean by that that I talk a lot haven't noticed it so far uh what do you mean you talk too much or you you y too much when I get

Jakeinto a deep conversation I just tend to give us a demo let's hear it you said you stud psychology are you on the spot let's go I do what are the what are the kinds of things that you like to Y

Jakeabout oh I like this guy hold on a second the attention's briefly not on you I'm sorry are you talking about Psy yeah I'm I'm saying like what what interests you if you say you Yap a lot and you get like to get into deep

Jessconversations what are some of the things that interest you um I mean I don't know I I'm only a year into college so I'm not like super deep into it yet I've only taken like six classes what kind of stuff are you

Jessstudying what do they teach these days in Psychology um sociology um I'm taking I took two Child Development classes because I'm trying to focus on um becoming a children's behavioral

Jaketherapist so I'm trying to you know study children psychology more what are some of the modules like like who do they teach I know there's some good ones that Jordan Peterson talks about sometimes early early life behavioral

Jakepsychologists what kind of stuff they teaching you what does it take to be a good behavioral psychologist for a child I don't know yeah I've only been in school for a year aren't they teaching anything in that year we are it's just

Jessthe basics like we God I took a gap year so I'm it was two years years ago when I

Jessstarted college and then this year I took off because um money issues and then I'm re-enrolling um next semester so it's been a minute but you know they introduced um the most popular

Jesspsychologists and um we so you like Freud young you know Joseph gamble all these guys yeah we talk about their studies and then you know do projects on it um lots of drug talk and how it affects children um John P I think he's

Jakethe child psychologist behavioral psychology you know him John P I don't remember I don't interesting so like did you get into it because you're interested in psychology and sociology and all these things was there a a prior interest I

Jakedidn't know what I major I wanted to do so it was kind of an impulsive decision I noticed that you said you like suicide can't say that sorry um self self deltion boys what do you mean by that

Jakethat sounds like you kind of it's like a band isn't it oh is it a band yeah oh [Laughter]

Jessokay yeah when I said I got too much when I said I Yap too much I meant like when I you know make a connection with people I tend to just talk a lot that's all so if you know if you're my friend if you get to know me I'm going

Brito get comfortable with you and I'm going to talk your ear off very interesting very interesting so you don't like us cuz you're not talking I'm sorry what did you ask you I was asking

Briif she liked us do you like us I mean I don't know any of you you're all very beautiful do you think she has a BBL l it's okay if you say yes I was born this way I don't know I don't really know the

Jakedifference I don't I don't stare at the difference of what like a is honestly do you want me to stand up when show you can I I mean we saw it on Instagram oh yeah we saw the whole thing um can we just go around the table really quickly does she have a BBL I want a straight

Jakeanswer and I don't want like a yeah but she's really pretty straight answer go yeah I have no idea I wouldn't know what one looks like you wouldn't know what a BBL looks like

Ryan AbieI would just imagine like a really fat ass but I'm not is not that you're yeah just you're just like a tiny person like I don't know never seen a BBL before I have but on somebody probably a little

Jakebit bigger no maybe yes see yes I would say yes no you don't think she's got a BBL

Jakethis is the cont your contrarian here well I feel bad you guys are like picking on her do you do you think that she doesn't have have a BBL because because you feel bad or I feel I felt kind of bad you guys were like counting

Alexa Morganon her for this I mean she could be working out a lot I don't wear G you tell in and I I don't mean that disrespectfully but that's how you can tell the difference between I was trying there so I think you're gorgeous no one's ganging up on you but you can tell

Briin the thighs when someone works out and they actually work for it well I see I don't know I was just I don't know what if you guys think my ass is so fat which I don't think it is that fat but if you guys think my ass is so fat that it

Jakelooks like I got a BBL I'm going to take that as a compliment you should I'm going to take I'm going to take that as a compliment I'm not going to be kind of a Latino are you I'm Panamanian PanAm do they even have big booties if you said

Briyou're Colombian maybe you would have SED me a little bit Columbia is next to Panama Panama used to be a part of Columbia so yes we all come from the same ancestry yeah okay I haven't seen that many panamanians around what's the

Jakepopulation of Panama like 4 million okay have you been there I was born and raised there yeah little baby L's around e actually surgery is not very common though really I went to Columbia and

Brithey all have bbls 18 years old boom BBL Panama is more strict like more like conservative so it's more looked down

Briupon to like get bbl's and get surgery when I got my boobs done my family was like freaking out but I got it done anyway you said you're from a

Briconservative family like Panama is a conservative country yeah like more like rules and like it's looked down upon to get surgery and like wear a lot of like

Briskimpy clothes and things like that let's look down upon so when I got my boobs done and I told my mom was G she lost her [ __ ] what did they say when you

Brigot your BBL well I didn't get a BBL that's what I'm saying I can't like I'm not going to lie about one thing and not lie about the other if I wanted to lie about being natural I'd be like I'm 100%

Brinatural and I'd push that [ __ ] like I was pushing I was being a virgin ask Brian I didn't fold to the people saying oh no but you're ly you're life true you were pretty truthful about that I don't like I'm

Brisaying when this way SC your that way when people push me I'm not one of those people that's going to be like folding like oh no if you would have fall over on onto your bum would you bounce would

Brihave bounc probably not because it's not that F okay look I'm going to be honest my butt is not that fat I mean it's nice like for my shape for how skinny I am it

Brian Atlasdoes look round but it has I'm moving I'm moving this on this is this is ridiculous so I don't know how you think I have stop you're being disrespectful and mean to Bri Bri is being honest and

Brian Atlasactually more logical than you guys you are trying to bring her down you sound ideologically driven by the rules in the Bible leave the judgment to God what we need is love compassion and openness

Brian Atlaswell actually I can make a very simple secular argument here um lying about something you you can object to that why whether you're Christian or not and it's very evident that she's lying about a

Brian Atlasgreat multitude of things what am I lying about you've lied about the fact that you're a virgin and when did I lie about being last show and on another podcast and then you're also lying about the BBL thing but we're not going to linger on it but I have a question why

Briare you so obsessed with my with my fake real butt I actually I'm not why you so obsessed you love it do you want it you want to eat it I'm going hit my vape out

Brian Atlasis I'm not lying is that you're lying about it that's the issue I don't I'm not like focused in on the booty I'm like why you lying about it I feel like if you're going to do something full

Brisend it if you're going to get your boobs done tell everybody that you got your boobs done make it all out that's why I'm getting them bigger cuz I want them more obvious that it's fake I want

Brilike I want that so if you're going to do something be proud of that [ __ ] stand on business if I get a BBL which I can't because I'm too skinny and I probably

Briwould if I could um if I got a BBL bro I'd be showing everybody my BBL I'd be that's what you're doing oh my God I would be literally freaking telling

Brieverybody to we're going to do the next dating app review next dating app review if you follow me since I was 15 you guys would know look up briad line 15 years

Brian Atlasold that's y well hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on no really it's on Google you can see my bikini picture that's weird that's really weird for you to say I'm just going to move entirely

Brian Atlaspast that that's kind of gross no it's on Google you're encouraging men to look at your young F that's really weird Bri that's super weird that's you being that's you being weird I didn't post those they're on Google because that's

Brian Atlashow I blew up that's all over Twitter are they on Google because you posted them I posted on Twitter when I was 15 that's a crazy thing to say dude disavow bro the you the whatever podcast ain't

Brian Atlasabout that [ __ ] weird [ __ ] that she just said [ __ ] disavow that immedia uh she says she goes crazy so this is Ryan here she goes crazy for like 30 minutes a day not just 30 minutes a day

Brian Atlaslike 30 minutes a day next uh so I'll fall for you if you're chivalrous um so crazy shus okay

Brian Atlasnext and then dating me is like going through TSA is there another one or is that it for her what's TSA like when you're going to an airport okay wait so why why is dating you like going through

Ryan AbieTSA okay I want to be completely honest I got this dating app about 3 months ago when I finally felt ready to go on a date again um and I was at a bar with just all of my co-workers and they created it for me I could not think of a

Ryan Abiesingle prompt I was drunk um so they made it for me and I turned it on for about a week and I've turned it off but when was this 3 months ago cre it uh I want to challenge you

Brian Atlashere a little bit a lot of women will claim oh like the sort of quirky my friends just made my dating app for me and I don't really like as a way cuz you

Brian Atlasalmost view the use of dating apps as pathetic so it's like a a way to reduce your uh culpability I yeah I see what you're saying I absolutely see like a

Brian Atlaslot of women will be like oh my friends made it for me when it's like this I you might be being honest now but the two prompts the TSA and then the going 30 minutes a day those are from my

Ryan Abiecooworker Tyler hi Tyler um the chivalrous one that's absolutely me the pictures are all obviously all me but yeah I was kind of just wanting to see who what kind of guys are in Dallas

Brian Atlasdidn't love it so it's off now oh okay you're not you're not using the dating app really then no not really when's the last time you sent a message on the app oh gosh three

Brian Atlasmonths AG two I guess two and a half months ago probably oh okay so okay there's the crazy so that he was wrong about the going crazy for 30 minutes a day thing you could I mean a lot of people would probably say that you said

Ryan Abieit was a male friend who said that up no her name is Tyler oh her name's Tyler and she was trying to get you dates or trying to scare men away that's the prompt that she uses it was just a quick one I OB like I wasn't planning on

Ryan Abiegoing I didn't go that's what she uses for her profile yes and then same with the TSA one can I ask I don't get the going crazy for 30 is it like Zoomies for cre I

Brian AtlasI don't know it's a really bad dating profile quy thing to say I guess so I was very cringed out by it that's I it's off

Brian Atlasokay um so you are desirous of chivalry though yes that one is 100 okay why is that those are just the types of guys that I've dated okay so what does it

Ryan Abiemean for a guy to be chorous um I guess more traditional I guess it usually honestly starts with just the way that they would speak to me it's more of a respectful way I

Ryan Abiewould could name a couple things but like they're they're so basic just like opening a door like the car door I feel like that's it's not like a expectation but it's so sweet when they do it I just love it um I don't know flowers on the

Jakefirst date are cute flowers on the first date okay it's not again not an expectation it's just like cute I know but yeah it's it's tough though these days you don't really want to do that men get pun men get punished for doing

Ryan Abiethat in the westst they do yeah yeah so just more older things that you know how many First Dates have you been on oh maybe like

Ryan Abiefive only five I've dated two guys for a long time so between that time yeah I'd say five oh Nick you can um get rid of the uh the

Brian Atlaschat yeah otherwise people are going to be just staring at at the whole show um all right oh let me end the poll here so okay you want you want chivalry um don't

Brian Atlasnecessarily think there's anything wrong with that I just like to see people holding up their end of the bargain so if your expectations are men do all those things what are you expected to

Ryan Abiebring early on in a relationship to be deserving UPS said chiv yeah again I want to say I don't expect it but when they do it I absolutely love it and that's what I'm attracted to

Ryan Abieum I I mean overall like are you asking just like what I bring to the relationship um I I guess but or even early on in the dating scenario yeah I I

Ryan AbieI mean what did y'all say earlier kind sweet and attractive I mean I would say I'm a very very kind person I listen to people I support them if I support them

Brian Atlasum on the first date how would you support someone on the first date oh if we're talking about a first date that's a little bit different but you have it sounds like you have traditional gender Ro

Brian Atlasexpectations immediately right on the first date chivalry flowers opening the car door paying for the first date treating you in a gentlemanly way um so what are some of the things that you would do immediately that you're

Brian Atlasbringing to a guy because perhaps 3 months into a relationship you might fall into your traditional gender roles but what do you doing upfront that's traditional I would say I'm going to do my best to look the part what do you

Ryan Abiemean look the part I'm going to do my makeup do my hairit I would say so and then I'm going to be kind to them while they're on the date I'm going to thank them for the dinner and then we're going to couldn't

Brian Atlasa non-traditional woman do all those same things yeah I'm sure it's not clear to me though if like looking nice putting on makeup doing your hair

Brian Atlasis like a specifically traditional thing because like a super liberal Progressive feminist could do all that [ __ ] too totally um I guess let's take the traditional part out of it and just say

Jakethat's what I would do I think it makes sense but like in the first date though this is where it's diff because men are expected to do things that embody traditional on a first date for a woman generally you want to be kind sweet

Jakeattractive look pretty show up be sweet all that but it's what you've done outside of that that makes you traditional so if you've been like a massive hoe over the series of 5 10 years and then you rock up and say oh I'm traditional you better be

Jaketraditional totally that's not that's not okay but if you've embodied certain values throughout your life and you come to the date and you act according to a traditional standard then that's fine

Jakethen you can expect some sort of chival yeah I agree with that I don't really think there's necessarily so many things that a woman has to do on a first dat besides be there be sweet and kind like

Ryan Abiewhen you date are you dating uh like are you talking to multiple guys at the same time no not I'm not saying sleeping with them but I truthfully like can't and I sometimes don't understand how a lot of

Ryan Abiegirls can I can't all I'll forget things and then I would yeah that's too much I could say two at one time maybe but but then I don't know once you fall for somebody you kind of just don't really

Brian Atlasyou can't get out of that I feel like you're just into them and like why pay attention to somebody else you're just like doomed to sure and I I'm not trying to come off like I'm coming at you but there is it does seem that even for

Brian AtlasLiberal Progressive Fe even feminist women there's this very gendered expectation on men that they still uh uphold their Traditional Values

Brian Atlaswhen it comes to or they adhere to traditional gender rules rather when it comes to the initial stages of dating even for Liberal Progressive feminist women and it's kind of like this frustrating thing for a lot of men where

Brian Atlasyou have these women who are not traditional themselves but demand traditional treatment from men and frankly they get it anyway is because

Brian Atlasmen are uh just we bend over backwards for anything pretty much but um so yeah right

Brian AtlasBri yeah she was manifesting she no I only said that because she was totally zoned out she wasn't even she wasn't listening to what I was saying so um we

Brian Atlashave one more dating app review scared we have who do we have we have KJ right KJ all right this is uh KJ here

Brian Atlasfirst round is on me you can guess my real name okay next next uh key to my heart is a fat Mar on

KJthe rock Rock next tell yeah brother don't hate me if I call myself Mama too much what wait what do you mean by the you call yourself mama what what are we talking about yeah I it's just a habit

KJI've started picking up where I'm just I use myself in third person I will refer to myself as Mama started off as mommy this this this is a very this a very common mistake that I find that girls

Jakemake on dating apps the first bit was great you look very sweet you had a photo with your mom that was amazing but then you started call myself Mama girls aren't really funny and Men we don't we

Jakedon't care necessarily if you guys are fun some women can be funny I I haven't met many very like maybe a small handful but we don't really care if you guys are fun if and I'm just this is not even

KJadvice but if I were a girl I would keep the jokes off of my profile okay I don't think that I'm like damn whatever whatever I don't think I'm funny um I will never say that I'm definitely not I

KJdon't think I was she were you trying to be funny with that or no just literally it's literally just I don't even think she's I'm sorry um no I don't think I'm funny I

KJwould actually never try to put a joke on there that would be embarrassing cuz I would definitely fail in that area call calling yourself Mama that was like a no I literally I just do and like I don't know it's just my personality I'm

KJnot going to go on there and try like super hard honestly I'm just going to put myself out there and whatever what is the context what is the context in which you're calling yourself mama I'll just be like Mama's working hard today

Brian Atlasshe's she's working that's manifesting a future it's multiple times today okay wait is this like will you

Brian Atlasincorporate this into your if you're dating a guy will you be like Mama brought home mama got the goods no you ready for Mommy not on the

Brian Atlasfirst day okay that comes out later look look at our good friend here Dario Reeds Canadian 140 I hate to give more money to this podcast because brixen has

Brian Atlasturned into a misogynist the fact that you harp on her lips and she clearly explained she has no reason to hide it actually I didn't really linger too much on the lips but uh more harm is done than good happy to come on in chat

Brian Atlasanytime to set things straight uh Dario reads bro I agree I have no reason to hide anything is it really a is it really misogynistic to to question

Brisomebody when they're lying to you is is that like the new am I lying to you yeah you're lying why am I lying to you no like were you there in the surgery with me or something like did you watch

Jaketextbook simp textbook textbook simp she obviously loves the attention she's really enjoying it she was enjoying us showing her Instagram talking about her ass she here to promote her only fans Dario stop

JakeI'm not here to promote my only fans actually I quit only fans but yeah but you you enjoy the attention we all know that you enjoy the attention it's not you're not traumatized by it so it's

Brian Atlasfine yeah wait Dario I have a question for you dude without Googling it Define misogyny I've got a question for you darny dude have you ever seen the clown the clown that hides from gays that

Brian Atlashides from what the clown that hides from gays have you guys ever seen the clown that wait let bro Jake Jak please please let's let's avoid like uh I think it's probably a little like to okay I

Jakethink I don't think so but yeah okay I'll avoid it what's that his wait it's is it like yeah no no it's it's saying if you haven't seen the clown that HIDs from gays the Clown's Harding from

Jakeyou oh gotcha okay I don't get it have you and he was talking about humor have you not have you not seen it no is it like a

Brian Atlasvideo or some [ __ ] if you haven't seen it I mean no I haven't seen it I haven't seen it no fair enough fair enough I have guys we have a lot of uh we we have like extra eyeballs on us

Brian Atlasfrom YouTube and like twitch and [ __ ] so I'm just trying to be more careful with I won't say anything no it's okay it's okay I'm just trying to like make sure we don't say like anything [ __ ] TOS cuz like extra eyeballs on us um just me and you

Brian Atlasbro okay so wait viewers do you swipe yes or do you swipe no on her profile I guess yeah swipe yes swipe no uh let's get into the we're gonna get

Brian Atlasinto some of the pre-show notes Here for everybody um let's see hold on wait okay so we have talking stage single single uh really quick on

Brian Atlaseverybody who's single so um are you really single like there's not some guy in the picture so well you're in a talking stage Jess is that correct yes

Brian Atlasthere's some guy in the picture for you Bri no no guy in the picture for you there's no guy in the picture no guy none not even talking to a guy no not even like hooking up with a guy nothing

Brian Atlassingle for 6 months yeah okay no guy in the picture no guy in the picture uh talking stage for you if I recall no guy in the picture nobody not even

Brian Atlastexting and then Alexa any same single come on okay well all right okay so uh let's get into some of the

Brian Atlaspre-show notes here so we're going to start with did car uh let's see she didn't show up uh we are going to start with Jess so Jess you're a feminist is

Brian Atlasthat corre correct I don't think I said that when I texted you in the response to your thing said you're

Brian Atlasfeminist pretty sure you did if I did that was a mistake well hold on don't walk it back because perhaps yeah you said okay 20 Rous single Oceanside apolitical

Jessfeminist okay um that was a mistake then CU how how mistake how would you because I didn't want to scoot scoot to the mic to the edge of the table please please I didn't want to text anything that I didn't want to talk about so I

Brian Atlasapologize for that wait what what do you mean like I don't want to debate this kind of things like debate what about Fe feminism wait so point of clarification are you a

Brian Atlasfeminist um it depends on your definition so okay here was the question that we sent you like three weeks ago and you reached out the question is do you consider yourself feminist traditional or other to which you

Jessresponded feminist then I apologize apologize for what don't apologize you can just say you not a feminist if you I I don't think I'm a feminist it

Jessreally just depends on the definition because I feel like different people view feminism in different ways very different ways so I don't really want to label myself as one which wave of feminism are you I just believe in

Brian Atlasequality that's it so first and second wave yes okay wait so you're not a feminist or you are I'm just going to go with no well hold what do you mean you're just G to go

Jesswith no because like I just said there's people have different definitions of it people believe that feminism we can cross examine see if you want well I ask you the question because I don't want to

Jesssound like one of those girls like oh I hate all men I hate all men you know um sure that's fine you can be a I suppose you can be a feminist and not hate men I'm not I'm I'm not a feminist

Brian Atlasthat was that was a mistake in our text I'm sorry so you're traditional then no other na what is other na I'm just confused because the question was do you consider yourself a feminist and

Brian Atlasyou responded feminist and that was a mistake and I'm sorry but I'm I got to give you a little push back here because you it seems like you're not you're

Brian Atlasrefusing to stick to the identification that you provided because you don't wish to talk talk about the topic of feminism no it just sounds like I made a mistake I think maybe my mind was somewhere else

Brian Atlasand then I read feminism and or feminist and then I wrote down feminist right but if I could rewind like 60 seconds didn't you I've never called myself a feminist that's fine but 60 seconds ago didn't you just say that you don't want to talk

Brian Atlasabout that yeah I don't want to debate feminism with you so is that why you're now but is that what is that why you're now walking

Jessback your self-identification as a feminist no cuz I wouldn't have said that in the first place I didn't mean to say that in the first place well I'm so then why would you not want to discuss

Jessfeminism it's just not something I want to debate about CU I don't necessarily know your beliefs on the whole men and women equality probably cuz she sees how you attack me and then she's like oh [ __ ] I don't want to get attacked like

Jessthat yeah I guarantee a lot of women don't want to bring up certain things that they believe in cuz they don't want to get into it with you because literally you come on here and then then you come and ask you guys do realize

Brian Atlasthat hold on bri stop you do realize that this is an adversarial dating discussion show where we often get into debates I mean yes and there's there's certain things that I'll gladly talk about and there's just other things that I don't want to and there's some things

Brithat maybe I don't think I'm educated enough to talk about so I don't want to and there's a difference between a debate and a nice argument about something and then you

Jakecamey you came in bad faith straight away you can't talk you have bad faith you can't talk you on the other hand if you wanted to like we don't necessarily have to debate anything but if you wanted to obviously you don't have to but we could take it issue by issue and see what you think

Jessabout things and see if you can have your mind changed or if you can change our minds that's fine but I'm just trying to say me saying that I was a feminist and our text was a mistake do you think you think that

Brian Atlasthere's something wrong with identifying as a feminist no not at all it seems a little bit like a

Brian AtlasI am a feminist but I don't want to get bulldozed by Brian in a debate over feminism so I'm just not going to say I'm a feminist sure oh so H hold on but

Jesswhen you say sure do you mean yes because you're just kind of assuming at this point I I believe would I be wrong to assume you a feminist when you said you were feminist no I'm I'm not going to label myself and I told you that was a mistake I think about 10 times now

Jakethat I would imagine that you have some view that you think probably do align with feminis want to De it the issues that's not something I wanted either same with politics and same with religion because

Brian AtlasI'm not educated enough on either that's that's a self-aware thing to say I respect do you do you consider yourself you said you're

Brian Atlasapolitical yeah okay huh interesting uh right

Brian Atlaswell uh let's see you said you were cuz in number 14 you said that you disagree with many topics the host speaks

Brian Atlason but also can agree on many as well actually and I'll open this up to the entire panel to let them in but one thing we typically do is we like to hear from people who disagree so um I would

Jesslike to start if uh what so what are your disagreements and we'll start there I mean I didn't make a list I texted you back as I was studying your podcasts and

JakeI I can't what do you mean you can't can I just say if you did if you did have things that you disagree with I know that you maybe don't necessarily want to go into anything adversarial but you're more than welcome to bring them up and and we won't like yeah I just I

Jessdon't want to bring up like I don't want to bring up a specific topic and start a whole debate like if you know if you say something if you say something that I disagree with I will cut in really will

Brian Atlasyou if I think that I can give a good input on it yes right but I mean this I'm am opening it up for opportunity for anybody who does disagree with me on

Brian Atlasanything at this precise moment and I'm starting with you um well okay look in your pre-show notes mhm you said I disagree with many topics the host speaks on and I'm happy

Jessto engage with you on that these messages were two weeks ago and I I thought that you were the one who brought up most of the topics that we talk about or it's just a discussion and it gets pulled into well you've seen the show right so okay well and I just ask

Brian Atlasyou what do you disagree with me on I don't have anything named right now you I didn't know that you were going to ask want me to guess hold on you want me to guess what you disagree with me on why don't you just State what you disagree with me

Brian Atlason I you have you seen the show or just seen Clips you've seen full shows yes not are you aware of the nature you and you dm'd us first correct yes requesting to be on the show yes and you're aware

Brian Atlasof the Fairly adversarial nature of the show where we do like have heated debates about dating related topics mhm okay and you stated in your show notes

Jessthat you disagree with many topics the host speaks on do you care to articulate at least one um can you come back to me can you

Brian Atlaswhy you these messages week ago well hold on we have multiple G I think we have a couple girls here who've reached out even prior to that right and if I were to start asking them questions they

Brian Atlaswould happily engage with me with their pre-show notes I'm not going to press you more but I have given you ample opportunity to engage in the

Brian Atlasconversation I'm warning you now if you're refusing to engage I'm not going to really be particularly inclined to come back to you again is that is that fair I'm not refusing to engage I just have but is that fair I'm not going to

Brian Atlasmake any further efforts in this conversation to reel you in is that fair for you that's fair because I've attempted but if you're just going to Stonewall then I I for the sake of the other panelists I don't want to have

Brian Atlasmeta conversations like this okay okay all right moving on we're going to talk to KJ you said you were almost engaged

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