HEATED DEBATE! She ONLY Dates FAT Men?! He CHEATED On Her With Her MOM?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk 286

Date: 2026-03-16

Duration: 8h 57m

Guests

NNicole (Kansas)

Brian Atlas

LLexi (Chicago)>

BBri Nightwood >

KKaylee Chico >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Julia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Kaylee Chico(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lindsey(guest)

SPEAKER_05Jenny(guest)

SPEAKER_07Laetitia(guest)

SPEAKER_08Chris Love(guest)

SPEAKER_09Maria (NC)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Lexi (Chicago)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Veronica(guest)

SPEAKER_12Brooklyn(guest)

SPEAKER_14Bri Nightwood(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

ControversyVeronica cries and rage quits during weight rejection debate

ControversyLindsey rage quits/kicked off after confronting Brian

Key MomentMichaela drove 2.5 hours to date wheelchair man with warrants, chose him over green-flag guy

Key MomentLexi: 27yo boyfriend cheated on her with her biological mother when she was 17

Key MomentBri Nightwood: throuple with Satanist DJ with 12 dead exes and subliminal mind control

QuoteBri made $1M from dick ratings on OnlyFans (10,000+ ratings)

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions + Findom

Lexi (findom $10K/mo), Chris Love (Playboy/stripper), Brooklyn, more.

Rage Quits

Veronica cries and rage quits during weight debate. Lindsey also rage quits/kicked off.

Lexi Ex Cheated With Her Mom

At 17, her 27yo boyfriend cheated with her biological mother at a hotel.

Bri Satanist DJ Throuple

Throuple with DJ who had subliminal mind control frequencies, altar for taking souls, 12 dead exes.

Trivia Failures

Chris Love can't name Canada. Valerie guesses 7 states in USA. Jenny thinks France capital is Italy.

Transcript

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BrooklynI don't know. I just I don't know. Those are the ones that I pick cuz it's kind of like exciting and

Brooklynit's it's boring when they're just 100% green flag, I think. Oops. Oh, hold on. Didn't mean to do

Laetitiathat. Yeah, that's completely dysfunctional. Um, and you're how old? You're >> I'm 28. >> You're 28? >> Yeah. >> Uh, so you like the bad boys, the jerks, the [ __ ] Have you ever dated a guy with a face with face tattoos?

Brooklyn>> Oh my gosh. >> I drove 2 and 1/2 hours to go on a date with this dude who didn't have a car. Didn't have >> Oh man. >> He was a Soundcloud rapper.

Brooklyn>> No. And then >> then I found out that he believed in conspiracy theories. I was like, I'm just going to >> Oh, and the conspiracy theories was the

Julia>> No. Wait, what about the >> Was he even good at rapping? >> No, >> girl. I know. I didn't know this until I went out there. >> That's where you drew the line.

Brooklyn>> Was it cute? >> Wait, no, there's more. So, we went on a double dateish. So, we went with his friends on a date and one of his friends didn't have a date and his friend that

Brooklyndidn't have a date paid for everybody. >> Wait, you went on a date with two dudes? >> No, I went So, I went on a date with one dude and then his friend brought a date and then there was another friend there

Laetitiathat paid for everybody. >> Oh, God. >> So, it was >> three dudes and two girls. >> Yes. >> Okay. What does that have to do with anything?

LaetitiaI would have paid for the date. I tried to pay for my portion of the date. >> Okay. But so back to you preferring to date men with red flags. >> Yes. >> Um

Laetitiayou drove two and a half hours to a guy who had face tattoos? >> Yes. >> Like how much of his face? >> Like just a couple. >> Neck tattoos? >> Yes. >> Hand tattoos?

Laetitia>> Yes. Um, and then, uh, he was a Soundcloud rapper. >> The conspiracy theory. I mean, I'm

LaetitiaThat's whatever. I'm not That's not a big deal. Um, did you [ __ ] him? >> No. >> Really? >> I'm a ge I did not. >> You're a a G. >> I'm a geologist, right? And he believed

Brooklynin flat earth and I was like, I can't do it. >> Oh my geologist. Wait, you're a geologist? >> Yes. >> What did you say? Did you say that at the intro? >> Mhm. >> Uh, must have missed it. >> What did you say? He believed him.

Laetitia>> A flat earth. >> Oh, okay. >> If he wasn't a flat earth earther, would you have [ __ ] him? >> No. >> Really? >> Really? >> You drove I'm just What were you looking for? Was he in a wheelchair, too, or is

Laetitiathis a >> No, that was a different one. >> Okay, we'll get to that in a second. But I'm just confused. So, it's like >> he was cute. >> What What were you hoping for, though? Driving two and a half hours. Like,

Laetitiawhat? >> I was hoping he had a cool personality and we would like >> There's not eligible men in your city, I guess. Um, it just seems like a lot of work, not going to lie. But to not [ __ ]

Laetitiahim, too. I mean, look, obviously, I'm not saying you had to [ __ ] him. I'm just >> is the guy >> if the guy's worth driving 2 and 1 half hours for, he should be worth [ __ ] >> Like I feel like

Laetitia>> I like driving >> like Okay, fine. The guy who lives 10 minutes away, he waits for the third date, but if you're driving two and a half hours, >> well, >> and he's not [ __ ] >> Well, I had just met him. You don't just

Laetitialike go meet somebody and [ __ ] them. >> Have you ever [ __ ] somebody like that? >> When I was younger. Yeah. Okay. So, you do do it >> when I was like 21 maybe.

Laetitia>> And you're 28. And how long ago was this? >> Like 6 months ago. >> Six. I don't understand this. So, it's like on one hand you're like, "Well, I'm

Laetitiamore mature now, but uh I'm also going to date a guy with face tattoos." >> Sounds that that's why I said I shouldn't be allowed to make these decisions. >> You probably shouldn't. Um, I charge

Laetitia$300 an hour to give personalized dating advice so people like you don't [ __ ] their life up. Um, but uh, yeah, if you want my services, uh, yeah, but

Laetitia>> noted. >> Yeah, that I mean that's ridiculous. Um, I don't understand this thing though on that topic of like so you wouldn't have sex with a guy quickly now.

Laetitia>> Now, okay. now, but in when you were young, you just right away. >> Well, yeah. I guess >> that's such a raw deal for men. Like imagine imagine like and I've I've actually

Laetitiaencountered this myself like with dating. I remember one particular girl um part of me thinks it's like, are they that into you? But the other thing, like women do this for sure. Uh I remember

Laetitiaone girl, it was like the third or fourth date and she was like, oh, you know, I prefer to wait. And I was like, and she's like, "Oh, yeah. A year ago, I [ __ ] a guy right away." I was like,

Laetitiaand she was like, "Oh, but I really like you, Brian. I think you're long-term." And I'm like, "So, just to be clear, the guy who's a piece of [ __ ] he gets the

Laetitia[ __ ] but I'm the good guy, the guy you want to be in a relationship with, and I don't get the reward. So, I'm I'm I'm

Laetitiayour ideal boyfriend material. I gotta wait. But the piece of [ __ ] drug addict [ __ ] whatever he gets to hit right away. That's a [ __ ] raw deal. Imagine

LaetitiaImagine if men >> Imagine if a guy who was like, "Listen, I think I see long-term. You could be my future wife. You're wifey. But you know what? Because of that, I think I want to

Laetitiatake things slow. I don't want to get you gifts. I don't want to take you on vacation. I don't want to do these romantic gestures. I don't want to protect and provide for you. I want to wait until we're more established before

LaetitiaI do that stuff, you know? >> But the girl who I'm telling you, she didn't really matter. I didn't care about her. She was just fun. She was just for fun. I just wanted to [ __ ] her. She got the gifts. She got the dates.

LaetitiaShe got the vacations. But she was just for sex. But my future wifey, my girlfriend who I'm supposed to cherish, >> you get to wait for it. I'm not doing any of that [ __ ] with you. Y'all women would lose your [ __ ] minds.

Lexi (Chicago)>> No, I've actually had a guy do that >> backwards. >> Yeah. He was like, "Well, I feel like I've done this so many times. Like, I've wasted so many resources and been on so many dates for no reason. I don't want to like ruin what we have." And I was

Laetitialike, "Block. That's what we have." Nothing. >> I don't know, man. >> I mean, like, >> it's a raw deal. I feel like [ __ ] If

Lexi (Chicago)you [ __ ] a guy within an hour, >> like I take it back. >> No. When I was younger, I feel like, you know, >> I mean, >> you can wait cuz you know, you want to be in a good relationship. But now that

BrooklynI'm older, it's like, okay, like you've done stuff, I've done stuff, we're grown. Sorry. Yeah. >> What were you going to say? I >> was going to say I take it back. might

Brooklynhave hooked up with somebody like 24 hours after meeting them, but they they took me and my motorcycle to a bike meet on my birthday and drove like 3 hours to

Brooklyncome to my house to pick me and the bike up. And also, I'll pay for a first date, you know, cuz I feel like dudes pay for a lot of first dates. I prefer paying for

Laetitiathe first date. Now, >> on the waiting for sex thing though, and look, it's I want to be somewhat charitable, it is a bit of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

LaetitiaSo, it's like, okay, for example, >> if a woman used to do heroin, it's probably better she stops doing heroin. Just because she used to do heroin

Laetitiadoesn't mean she has to keep doing heroin. In that same vein, if a woman is [ __ ] guys super quick and that's not

Laetitiahow she wants to like move, I understand it. But a and if a woman feels like it's a better way to move to kind of like

Laetitialet's third date or longer even, I understand that. But from the male's perspective and if you want to [ __ ] her and she she

Laetitialikes you and you know she [ __ ] another dude really quick. I'm like who the [ __ ] am I then? I'm I'm like oh

Laetitiaokay. So that douchebag that that you [ __ ] really quick. Um

Laetitiahe uh like who am I? I don't know. And so I don't know. I feel like there's a better way to articulate this point. That's a vague.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Yeah. Like so basically you think he's uh more deserving or that's how it's it seems that he's like more deserving of it even though he's a a piece of [ __ ]

Laetitia>> It just seems like a raw deal for the man. Like if that was on the table for that dude, I want it on the table for me. >> Yeah.

Lexi (Chicago)Now, I don't know if that makes me a jerk or whatever, but I don't know. >> Yeah, I feel like it's uh normal or it's

Lexi (Chicago)ideal to have sex like within the first three dates. I would I mean I'm a little bit like of a horn dog. Like I like to have sex on the first date cuz like I feel like that's my intention. I'm like,

Julia"Yeah, I want you to [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of me." But that's just me. Here comes the

Lexi (Chicago)>> Hey, no, look, I'm I mean the little soundboard things or whatever. I respect it. I respect it. Um >> Yeah. I mean >> I mean cuz you've we've done so many things in high school. I've had sex in a

Lexi (Chicago)car in high school. Okay. So once like I've already like passed that threshold, I'm like okay like I'm going to give it up for my husband too, you know? Like I don't know. I feel like if I'm like even on a date with you, like it means

Lexi (Chicago)something. Like we talked already, we have enough substance. We can [ __ ] >> Is that why you have such high date standards? >> Um,

Lexi (Chicago)I don't know actually. Well, I guess so because I feel like I haven't been [ __ ] in a long time. So it's like if I get [ __ ] on this off occasion where I

Lexi (Chicago)am getting [ __ ] I want to get [ __ ] by a guy I like. You know, that's valid. >> Yeah. and like, you know, I like you. We're talking. We're dating. Okay, [ __ ] me. A

Laetitia>> sorry. >> If you give away the milk for free, everyone will want free milk. Like, no one wants to pay for something

Laetitiauh that they can get from somewhere else for free. I don't know. Like, imagine a man having a reputation for spending obscene amounts of money on women he had

Laetitiano interest in dating. just wanted to sleep with them. But then when he dates you, he says he won't spend a dime on you

Laetitiauntil you prove yourself to him. I think women would not accept this. So, I don't know. >> I know. I feel guilty when they try to

Laetitiabuy me things. >> Okay. Yeah. Um it's kind of like uh I don't know. I don't know. It just seems like women are

Laetitialeveraging the sex. I don't know. It seems like I don't know. Okay. Uh but you do date these toxic

Laetitiaguys or whatever. >> Uh you the the guys who have green flags, you disregard them. You don't find them

Brooklynattractive. >> Mostly valid girl. or I'm not physically attracted to them. So like no matter how many green flags they have, it's just like there's no there's nothing there.

Laetitia>> You have to have physical attraction, but are there men who are physically attractive who don't have the red flags and you're not attracted to them? >> I mean, like they're physically attractive, but not like

Brooklynthey're not my type. >> What's your type? >> Abusive, >> apparently. Um, >> I don't know. I don't know if I >> have. >> So dysfunctional, bro.

Jenny>> Specific. >> So dysfunctional. >> Have you ever been with a guy that was at first toxic and then was like, "You're the one. I'm going to treat you great and you lost interest."

Brooklyn>> No. >> They've always just been like >> just a little toxic in the beginning and then like it gets more toxic and then I'm like, "Oh." And then I leave. It normally doesn't get better. No, >> it gets worse. >> Yeah.

Laetitia>> Yeah. >> Dysfunctional. See a therapist. Fix your problems. >> Yeah. I don't know. It's I I don't know if men operate this way. I mean,

Laetitiaobviously toxic people can be drawn to each other, but it's like, "Wow, she's really kind and nice to me." >> Nah. Like, what? I don't I don't get

Laetitiathat. I don't know. >> I think it's a woman thing. >> Oh, yeah. >> I feel like Yeah, >> for sure. Um, >> guys and girls like toxic people. A lot

Laetitiaof guys like toxic girls. >> I think guys who don't have a lot of options uh or who have dysfunction in their own

Laetitialife might like toxic women. But uh like some men will accept it or tolerate it out of necessity because

Laetitiathey can't get higher quality women who uh treat them well. I guess >> uh factory. >> What you disagree?

Lexi (Chicago)>> They can't get a higher quality woman. >> Like we come out of a factory.

Lexi (Chicago)>> I Okay. I mean it's true. Yeah. I mean, well, um, you know, it's like kind of like a little bit of a meme. I feel like like, um, guys make jokes about like women being toxic and like how they're like drawn to that all

Lexi (Chicago)the time. >> Yeah. When a girl >> Yeah. Like when a girls are like a little crazy, like, you know, like when they can't go out with their boys, like it's like a joke, you know? It's a joke, but it's not. It's real. I mean, I think

Laetitiathat's like super simp. Like, I don't know. That's that's weird for a guy to operate that way. But yeah,

Laetitiathere this is more of a stereotype though in terms of women. Like, you don't hear men like, I want the bad Well, >> women would say, uh, I like bad boys. >> Yeah. And then guys will say, I like

Laetitiatoxyas. >> No, they [ __ ] don't. No, they don't. They're just [ __ ] They can't get good women. They date them out of necessity because they they can't get a woman who treats

Lexi (Chicago)them right. >> I tried to treat a guy right one time and he was like telling me he was like, "You're boring." I was like, "What?" He was like, "Yeah, like you're boring. I like I like girls that are a little spicy." >> And I was like,

Jenny>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, that's [ __ ] I've definitely have seen some really nice looking guys who are like, I want a toxic girl that's going to beat me. >> Yeah.

Julia>> And it's like dysfunctional. >> Just people who have problems are saying these things. >> Well, yeah. I think that's a basis for

Laetitiaa lot of it for sure. Uh, okay. But going back to your notes, Mick, you drove 2.5 hours to meet a man in a wheelchair. You wheeled him around the mall, >> bought him a skateboard deck.

Laetitia>> Yes. for when he recovers as a first date. You caught feelings. You drove out to him multiple times and even spent the night in the ICU with him when he got a skin graft. >> Yes. >> His brother texted you one day and told

Laetitiayou he gave away the deck, lied about the accident that put him in the wheelchair and he had warrants. >> Yes. >> Did he have face tattoos? >> No. >> Um neck tattoo? >> No.

Brooklyn>> Um so, okay. What was the accident >> he got? So, he was on a motorcycle and he ran a red light going over 100 miles per hour and got t-boned. >> Okay. So, he was at fault, but he told

Brooklynyou that somebody else was at fault. >> Yeah. He told me that he was It didn't like click at first, but he told me he was taking a left turn and he had a green arrow. >> Okay. So, he lied about that.

Brooklyn>> The only problem was that he was going over 100 miles hour and it didn't click that. Like how are you going to take a turn at over 100 miles per hour? >> What did he What did he have warrants

Brooklynfor? >> It was like not having a license in a different county and then like just stop signs and stuff and then he didn't go to the court dates.

Laetitia>> Okay. Uh and then you wrote your dumbass kept talking to him for like another month before you got sick of the lies. >> Yeah. He also told me stuff like

Brooklyn>> he would needed to go to the hospital and the ambulance wouldn't come get him cuz there was a DNR. And I was like, "That doesn't make any sense." And he was like, "I'll put you in my will >> and I'll give you all of my cars and

Laetitiabikes." And that's when I was like, "All right, >> you you also wrote that uh you were talking to one dude who was a walking green flag. total sweetheart.

LaetitiaTreated you amazing, but you cut things off with him because you still had feelings for wheelchair man. >> Uh, and that wasn't fair to walking green flag guy. Walking green flag guy deserved better and eventually found better.

Brooklyn>> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And now he has an amazing girlfriend and I like ruined that friendship and I can't be friends with either. >> What is >> like I could but that would be really awkward.

Brooklyn>> What is the most down bad you've ever been for a guy? Is it the wheelchair guy or even worse? Uh Tiffany, can you get me two water bottles, please? >> Uh

Laetitiawhat do you mean? Like what? >> Like just the most desperate like cringe. I don't know. Like just doing way too much extra [ __ ] for a guy who

Brooklynjust treated you like [ __ ] >> Well, recently definitely wheelchair man. Oh, >> besides wheelchair man, >> my ex had sex with a prostitute in the

Brooklynbed that I bought for us and then I got back to So, we broke up for like a week and then I got back together with him and then he would regularly go get like happy endings. >> Oh. >> Oh my god.

Laetitia>> So, I would make him like get tested and then after a while it was just I was just done. >> You never wanted to stab him. >> Yikes. >> Wait, you Wait, wait, hold on. Let me just recap. Uh, you were dating a guy. You were living together.

Laetitia>> Yeah. >> And he would go out while you were together, living together, and sleep with prostitutes. >> Yeah. >> And you stayed with him? >> Yeah. I would go home on the weekends and he would go sleep with prostitutes

Brooklynon the weekends while I wasn't home. >> And he told you? >> Yes. He told me and his friends told me. >> And you stayed with him for how long?

BrooklynUh, after the first time he did it, it was a solid like year. >> Wait, so I'm just confused. He was open about his prostitution usage. >> Yes. >> Blamed it on.

Laetitia>> Were you sleeping with other men? >> No.

Laetitia>> On one hand, she's very ride or die. I mean, >> so are you toxic at all? I mean, >> are you clingy, like needy, jealous?

Brooklyn>> I mean, only when I'm drink, but I would say like I'm more just like pay attention to me. Like, pay attention, hug me, hang out. >> If a guy doesn't text you back fast

Laetitiaenough, do you get mad? >> I'll pout about it for like 10 minutes, but then I'll get over it. >> Okay. Uh,

Laetitiathat's way worse than the wheelchair guy, I think. I mean, I don't know. >> Um, damn. [ __ ] It's not just even like he's [ __ ] like some college girl. It's a [ __ ] prostitute.

Brooklyn>> I know. I was like, you had to pay to cheat on me. >> That's crazy. >> Were you not [ __ ] >> No, we were. >> Okay, that's [ __ ] up. >> Once you >> Yeah, you should see a therapist. Not

Jennygoing to lie. Once you found >> I don't even like therapy, but you should [ __ ] see a therapist. >> Did you still do anything with him after you found out? >> Oh, can we clear the plates from the table, please? >> Before I would do anything with him. >> So, even though like the test came back or negative, but you knew he was

Brooklynsleeping with another prostitute, you would still have sex with him? >> If he had sex with a prostitute, I would make him get tested and wait for the test results to come back to have sex with him again.

Laetitia>> Okay. Oh, >> on one hand, this is such a [ __ ] up situation. On the other hand, I would want a girl who stayed with me after I

Laetitiahad a drugfueled prostitution banging marathon. You know, it's >> crazy. >> Like, you know what I mean? So, it's kind of ride or die, I guess. Not that I

Laetitiawant to ever [ __ ] a prostitute, but >> you seem loyal, I guess. >> Thank you. >> To a fault. Um, okay. Nicole, uh, you're a stay-at-home mom who

Laetitiahomeschools. You remained a virgin until you were 27. You married your husband who is 14 year old years older than you. You're a conservative Christian, Lutheran. Um, you think age gap relationships are fine. You understand why men would want

Laetitiato get more established. Yep, we talked about that. Uh, we talked about the 19th. Uh, you believe body count should include any sort of sexual activity with another person. Uh,

Laetitialike that OF girl who claimed to be a virgin a few shows ago. Um, yeah. I feel like you got to factor in [ __ ] you know? Like she's a virgin, but she

Juliasucked 20 dicks. >> Yeah, that's weird. That's like different with straight people. >> Sex is sex. >> Yeah, you touched them.

LaetitiaIt's like are you uh yeah you write Nicole being a virgin should be associated with some level of purity of actions. So,

Laetitiait's like a girl who slept with one guy and that's and had that's it versus a girl who hasn't had

Laetitiaintercourse, sexual intercourse, but sucked 100 dicks. Where's that on the balance of purity?

Jenny>> Um, >> definitely in the girl. Yeah. it. So in with Christianity, you can have anal sex, right? But it still doesn't >> you shouldn't have any sex. >> You can't have anal you as a Christian, you can't have sex.

Maria (NC)>> Oh, I mean, you can do anything after marriage because the Bible says to give your body to your husband. >> I think it might technically be sodomy. >> I feel like Yeah,

Laetitia>> I don't think technically Christians are supposed to engage in anal sex, even heterosexual anal sex. She's like, "Oh, fuck." >> Well, I don't I don't

Maria (NC)I can't think I mean, I can't think of any passages that specifically say that. There are passages that specifically say Yeah. within the context of like two men. >> I know. I'll have to Google it. >> Yeah.

Laetitia>> Christian Oh, wait. Hold on. >> Uh, Christianity does not explicitly forbid or allow anal sex in the Bible. Many interpret biblical principles on

Laetitiapurity, wisdom, and avoiding unnatural relations, Romans 1, as advising against it. There seems to be some back and forth here. Um,

Laetitiawhile not explicitly mentioned, some interpret verses in 1 Corinthians 6 and Hebrews 13 as warning against sexual acts viewed as immoral or unnatural.

LaetitiaSo, up for interpretation. Um, yeah. Isn't Isn't it Catholics uh like you can

Laetitialike sex is for the purpose of reproduction? So, if you're [ __ ] a woman in the ass, she definitely can't get pregnant from that. So, it would be unnatural. I don't know. I'm not

Maria (NC)>> And in Islam, you can't go to heaven. >> They say anal sex. >> Heaven's off the table >> for anal sex. >> Yeah. Oh, well, >> probably based on a different interpretation of that.

Maria (NC)>> Well, and if you read like the Song of Solomon's in the Bible, it's pretty the metaphors for a woman's body are very graphic. So, sex is not taboo within

Maria (NC)Christianity, but you're supposed to keep it within your marriage, right? >> And there are verses that explicitly say like your body is to be your husband's and your husbands is to be yours, and you're never to deny each other access

Laetitiato that. Um, so, >> but I don't think it would a woman who's like in a Christian marriage who's like I don't want to do anal sex. I don't think that would be in

Maria (NC)contradiction to the owing each other your body thing. >> Sure. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I because if you love your partner, you're not going to force them to do something that they're uncomfortable with. >> Sure.

Laetitia>> Yeah. Okay. Uh let's see here. You know what? Let's go back to the questionnaire for a little bit here. Uh Lexi, people of color can't be racist towards white people. >> Yes. How so?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Um because they white people have never been enslaved. So >> uh you sure about that? >> Yeah, they have. >> So do you know the etmology of the word slave? >> No.

Laetitia>> Slavic slaves. So the first slaves were actually white people. Um and then there was the barbar slave trade in parts of

LaetitiaEurope where you had uh you had I is it Arabic or North African or Muslim

Laetitiauh slave slave traders slavers uh they would abduct white people and that went on for I believe hundreds of years. So yeah, white people have definitely been

Laetitiaslaves. >> Okay. Well then I retract my statement. Oh, okay. So, you concede then? >> Yeah.

Laetitia>> Uh, well, so how about this though? Um, can black people in the United States be racist towards white people? Cuz you'd

Laetitiaagree that uh black people uh well, maybe somebody in chat might >> say, wait, wait, let me just finish. People in the chat might be like, Brian, you're actually wrong on this. But at

Laetitialeast African-Americans at no point in the United States history, African-Americans did not make slaves of white people. Um, so can black people in the United States be racist towards white people?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Um, I think that everyone can be prejudiced towards each other and racism definitely exists like for both parties like black and white or you know if that's what we're going to go based off of then yeah I think that racism exists in both. >> Yes.

Laetitia>> Racism. >> Yes. Oh, >> okay. Can Asian people, Can Cambodian Latinas be racist towards >> African-Americans? >> Oh, um,

Lexi (Chicago)>> white people. Me. >> White people. >> Um, well, I guess I guess white people. >> White people. >> Um, >> Lord. Yes. >> You know, I guess there's like

Laetitiadefinitely like some prejudice that we can have against each other, but um, >> no racism. Can you, a Cambodian Puerto Rican lady, be racist towards pale as [ __ ] white guy, blue eyes?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Okay. >> Can Yeah. >> Um, well, I would I would say yeah. You know, that's like if I had like a nail salon and I was like, "No white people. No white people." >> Can you actually do the rest of the podcast? >> Racist.

Laetitia>> Wait, can you do the rest of the podcast with that accent? the Vietnam. >> No, >> no, do it. >> No, >> do it. No, it'd be fun. >> No.

Laetitia>> Wow. Lame. Uh, okay. So, uh, let's see. Lexi. >> Yes, that's >> Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA, to which you agree. Why is

Lexi (Chicago)that? >> Um, well, women and men are not equal. We um we have our own strengths and weaknesses, you know. So I think um we

Lexi (Chicago)all have like um you know different biases I guess. >> Uh but what rights do men have that women don't?

Laetitia>> Um well they have the right to be shirtless in public >> easily. >> Uh is there anything else though? >> So I actually agree with you. That's the only thing I ever sight to. But

Lexi (Chicago)>> yeah, I mean like you know it's like um showing genitalia is like a lot more uh easy for a man to get away with it. >> Absolutely not. >> Yeah. Like they can show their nipples and it's not >> that's not genitalia.

Laetitia>> I mean well if I was showing my nipples it would be considered like genitalia or something, right? >> It'd be a secondary uh sex attribute, but genitalia I think

Laetitiawould refer to I don't think bare breasts are genitalia. That would be like your vagina. Would it include the butthole? >> But it wouldn't be your breast.

Laetitia>> I don't know. I think it would. >> Yeah. But in any case, but on that individual note, I think uh like if a man exposed his penis versus a woman

Laetitiaexposing her vagina, it would be appraised like way worse the man doing that. Like that's way gonna be viewed way worse. Well, I mean,

Lexi (Chicago)it's kind of like, you know, like when teachers have like relationships with like their students, like women and men both, like it's just not okay in general, right? So, I just don't think it's okay. >> For example, I would I would put it like

Laetitiathis. If there was like a woman who was just walking around the street naked and there were children around, people would be like, "Whoa, that's really [ __ ] up."

Laetitia>> Whereas, I think, but maybe people will call the cops on you and blah blah blah. I think if there's a guy who's uh walking around naked and like a

Laetitiafather is there with his kids, I could see a father like [ __ ] maybe not murking the guy, but uh whooping his [ __ ] ass. Uh whereas I don't think like a woman would start beating on a

Laetitianaked woman. I don't think a man would start beating on a naked woman. Uh so I think there are like the assessment would be a bit different. Now, in terms of like uh would they both be arrested? Probably.

Laetitia>> Yeah. >> Um I even then the severity typically women don't face as harsh punishments, but that's besides the point. Um >> beyond that, can you actually And by the

Laetitiaway, some jurisdictions, uh it is allowed for women to go topless. There are some areas where women can go topless. >> Ohio, I think you can go topless.

Laetitia>> Yeah. But it's like I'm all for it. Free the titty. But even women don't want to be walking around with their bare breasts out. Most of them anyways. Uh,

Laetitiaand if they do, I don't think men really would have a problem with it. Let them let them breathe, I guess. Uh, but besides that, is there anything else?

LaetitiaAnything in terms of cuz I mean this, even though it's technically true, this seems very minor, right? So women do not have equal rights to men in the USA. Can

Lexi (Chicago)you point to anything else? >> Um, well, I think like even like politically like men are just taken more seriously than women. Like like women like Yeah. I mean like what's her name?

LaetitiaUm I forgot her name. >> Camala. >> Yeah. >> You don't even remember? >> I'm sorry. Gosh, I'm not political. >> Women don't get taken seriously, but you're a woman and you don't recall.

Laetitia>> I don't take politics seriously. I don't really invest myself in them personally. >> But I just find it somewhat interesting that you don't even recall the name of the

Lexi (Chicago)>> Yeah. All I remember about her is that she was a meme. Like people clowned her for ages. Like from the day that she even like started her like campaign, >> right? But so do you think people don't take her seriously because she's a woman

Lexi (Chicago)or >> No. Or because she was a dog [ __ ] candidate? I think both because you know Bernie Sanders like he was kind of stupid too and people weren't clowning him as much as like they were clowning her. >> Like there were like memes

Lexi (Chicago)>> there's valid criticism. >> Yeah. Or even like you know Trump right now like there's a lot of like memes that can be made but it's not it's not really going as viral as like Camala. Like her memes were like really

Laetitia>> wait Trump is the most >> attacked and maligned person in arguably the history of the world.

Lexi (Chicago)like uh I mean >> perhaps absent some dictators in the mid 20th century, but um >> this idea even Diddy, you know, like Diddy did some horrible things, but

Laetitiathey're just like making a joke out of it. It's just like he's in jail. >> Wait, I'm so confused. What does Diddy have to do with it? But okay, so women don't you said women

Laetitiadon't get taken as seriously even granting this. What would >> Yeah. I mean like nobody really sees like a Sorry. >> Hold on. What would that have to do with rights? Even granting it's true, which I

Lexi (Chicago)contest, but >> what does it have to do with equal rights? >> Um well, I just think um you know, women are probably never going to be president or a lot of things like that.

Laetitia>> True. I definitely see it happening. I think it'll happen in our lifetime. >> I don't know. >> Well, you would agree that a woman can

Laetitiabe president, right? There's nothing legally preventing her from being president, right? Okay. So, what is it? In any case, uh even if the populace just there's just better male candidates

Laetitiaor whatever, or even if his sexism does exist in society, you would have to agree. Are are you okay or >> Oh, I was just stmming. Sorry. >> What is that? Sorry. You should have

Jennydisc I mean, you should have disclosed it to me that you're stmming. Is that >> Yeah, it's just a thing with autism. It's just like when I get I just do like hand motions or >> Okay. I mean, that's fine. We'll do an

Jennyuh we'll we'll do an accommodation, but >> to somebody who's not aware of your >> stmming. >> I know it looks like I'm I Yeah, I mean

LaetitiaYeah, it's a disability. >> Uh okay, but yeah. Anyways, >> so sorry, I lost my train of thought.

Lexi (Chicago)>> I think that men um like men's uh rights like they're favored, I guess. How so? >> Like um people just love men.

Laetitia>> Even if that was true, which I again I disagree with, you have things like the women are wonderful effect where uh people tend to give women a halo whereas people both men and women are a bit

Laetitiaapprehensive when it comes to men. People assess men as more potentially uh as threats, whereas um there there's like for both men and women, there's a

Laetitiabias towards women. Women have a strong in-group bias for other women. Men have a slight outgroup bias for women. Uh so this idea that people love men, I'm not

Laetitiaactually sure if that's true. Um but in any case though, even granting that, what does that have to do with rights? >> I don't know.

LaetitiaSo, can you name a right that a man has that a woman doesn't besides the topless thing? >> No. >> So, men and Do how about this? Do men and women have equal rights?

Laetitia>> Um, I guess. >> Okay. Damn, I'm getting a lot of W's tonight. Everybody's changing their mind on

Laetitiaeverything. Um, uh, okay, let's see. Hold on. Uh Kaylee, you think, oh wait, you write women are oppressed in the USA

Laetitiaand men are more privileged in society than women. Those are two separate ones. You agree with that? Why is that? >> Wait, I said that I agree that men are more >> you agree that women are oppressed in

Jennythe USA and you think men are more privileged in society. >> Yeah. So when my um thing of oppressed is like um

Jennywhat I think what it meant was like being oppressed is being like um what did I I literally asked you what it was and you told me um being taken advantage of.

Laetitia>> I wouldn't categorize being taken advantage of as oppression but um I'll give you the definition. >> Thank you.

Laetitia>> Uh hold on. prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control. Uh oh, did they change it?

LaetitiaThe uh yeah >> the Can you repeat it? >> Prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control. So what I circled was saying

Jennythat women go through the the cruel is what I was saying and when I circled that >> uh so the statement is women are oppressed in the USA and you circled it. So going through like the definition

Laetitiathat you said the cruel and >> yeah so typically this would mean like from the state down

Laetitialike there's something in in the government or society that is cruel or unjust to women. Um, >> so like for example,

Laetitia>> yeah, >> uh, >> dating an abusive guy >> would not be oppression. >> Okay, >> you've been in an abusive relationship. You might have been abused,

Laetitia>> but I don't think you would. It would fall under the purview of oppression. >> Okay. So then, no, I wouldn't agree with that. >> Okay. So you just thought it was women are poorly treated or >> Yeah. I didn't understand the definition

Laetitiaof it. >> Okay. Um, and then, well, I'm going to skip that one then. Uh, Lexi, wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex. Why is that?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Well, because if if a girl is saying no, you can't have sex with me. I'm assuming that there's a reason why she said no, you know? So, there's probably an issue that you have to fix in your relationship and then you can have sex.

Lexi (Chicago)That's how easy it is. Seriously, I used to say no to my ex all the time. I'll be like, "No, we can't have sex. You pissed me off today and we talked about this issue multiple times, so I'm not going to give you what you want. You can't give me what I want."

Laetitia>> Uh, before I respond to that, Jennifer, you also agree. Why is that? >> That Oh, with the question you just asked her. >> Yeah. Wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him

SPEAKER_13down for sex. >> You know, I 100% agree. Like, why why wouldn't I? Like, no means no. If I don't want to have sex with you today, I don't have to have sex with you today. Like,

Laetitia>> right. But it's not a question about consent. I We all agree that consent is uh is what's the right word? Um 100% necessary,

Laetitiabut you're okay. The statement once again wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex. So why? Because the relationship

SPEAKER_13shouldn't just be based on sex. It should be like based off of like how you guys connect like energywise, like what you guys bring to the table. >> Okay. So, if I was dating a girl and I

Laetitiawas doing nothing wrong and she just like completely for for 6 months she didn't want to [ __ ] I'm in the wrong for wanting to dump her.

SPEAKER_13>> Yeah. Why would I be in the wrong? >> Because >> Well, I guess that's like your preference, but it's just like that shouldn't be the reason why

SPEAKER_13>> like somebody gets dumped for it for not wanting to have sex. Like people have like like religion is a thing. Like some people can't like have sex like before marriage, you know, like

Laetitia>> but so yeah, religion is a thing, but I mean I'm not making a religious argument on this. Um, if also it's sort of implied in the

Laetitiaquestion, if the man is being turned down for sex, he's clearly not waiting until marriage for sex. So, he wants to have sex. So, it's baked

Laetitiainto the question. This would probably not apply to a relationship where both people are waiting for marriage. So, putting that thing aside, uh, if I'm

Laetitiain a sexual relationship with a woman and she's expressed a expectation that I'm monogamous to her and she all of a sudden stops having sex,

Laetitiawhat would be actually be wrong with me dumping her?

LaetitiaAm I Is it okay for me to cheat on her then? What's worse? leaving her cuz it >> it would be better for me to stay with her and cheat on her than to dump her.

SPEAKER_13>> No, I just said that like it it's better if you if you just dump her than to >> cheat on her. That's >> right. But so what would be wrong?

LaetitiaWould it be wrong for a woman to dump her boyfriend if he just decided to stop paying the bills? For example, Lexi here, she wants a guy to pay all the bills. What if he just

Laetitiadecided to stop doing that? Would it be okay for her to dump him?

Laetitia>> Yeah. >> Why would that be okay?

SPEAKER_13because that's like your preference. Like if you if you like if he's coming to the table

Laetitiaand saying that I'm going to do this, then he should keep his word. So if a girl asks me to be her boyfriend and

Laetitiathere's an implication of monogamy, meaning I can only have sex with her and she was previously providing sex,

Laetitiashe's not holding up her end of the deal.

SPEAKER_13Okay. >> Are you laughing because you realize you're wrong or are you laughing for another reason? >> Well, in a way, I guess I am wrong

SPEAKER_13because at the end of the day, it's a preference. If you want your relationship to be about sex and it's it's a problem when it stops happening, then >> would would you be happy in a sexless relationship?

Laetitia>> Like, you want to [ __ ] but your boyfriend's like, "Nah, I'm good." Would you tolerate that? I would definitely question Okay. Me personally, I have a high sex drive. So,

Laetitia>> no. Like, I would not be >> Have you ever been Have you Has a guy ever rejected you for sex? Like a boyfriend? >> Rejected me for sex? Like said no to sex? >> Yes. >> No.

Laetitia>> That's funny. Uh, would you be bent out of shape if a guy turned you down? And you want you really wanted to [ __ ] and the guy's like, "Nah, >> out of shape like just be like

SPEAKER_13>> I would just be like, >> damn." Okay. Like >> I'm not going to like >> like are we talking about like a random guy or like >> boyfriend? Could be your boyfriend. Yeah.

LaetitiaNow, let's say he doesn't actually go ahead and answer the question. >> Like, if it was my boyfriend and >> wait, I'm so sorry. Repeat that. Like,

Laetitia>> this is so funny. She can't even comprehend the idea of being sexually rejected. She doesn't even It She can't even comprehend it. It doesn't even compute

Laetitiafor her. And yet she has an objection to a man dumping his girlfriend for regularly turning him down for sex.

LaetitiaWomen don't like taking L's. Like like women will be really bent out of shape if the guy turns them down for sex. But um

SPEAKER_13Okay, how about this? Your boyfriend doesn't [ __ ] you for 3 months. Are you staying with him? >> I can go that long. Yeah, it depends on the reason. It depends on the reason, I guess.

Laetitia>> I don't know. You just haven't been acting right recently. >> Oh, >> like, and he's just jerking it to porn. So, you know, he can get up. He's just jerking it to porn.

Laetitia>> Well, then he's cheating. That's I mean that's not technically cheating, but >> I mean porn is men shouldn't watch porn in a relationship or match. >> He has the sexual energy to bust a nut

Laetitiato something else, but he just doesn't want to do it to me. On the low, he's cheating. He has to be. >> So women can also have the sexual energy to [ __ ] but they could be turning down

Laetitiatheir boyfriend because like Lexi said, "Oh, he's just not acting right." >> Yeah. Also, even look, well, >> just to be clear, this is within the

Laetitiacontext of consent, right? >> Uh even if your boyfriend like pissed you off that day, >> like you could still [ __ ] him. >> Well, >> maybe that'll make things better. I don't know.

Lexi (Chicago)>> If he pissed me off about that one certain thing for like repeatedly for like months, I'm not going to have sex with him after he did that one thing to me. But I would have sex with him if he did something else completely like never happened before. He pissed me off that

Laetitiaday. It's okay, whatever. I'll suck your dick. But yeah, if it's like a continuous problem, like you need to you need to learn your lesson. >> And just to be clear, look, I've had girl like a girlfriend will piss me off

Laetitiaand she's all like, "Oh, let me make it up to you." I'm like, "Nah, go away." >> Like, so I get it. I'm not saying like if you're upset with your partner, you don't have to [ __ ] him. >> Maybe you can make it better, you know, honestly. But

Laetitia>> I've definitely like turned down my girlfriend before if she's just [ __ ] annoyed me or something and she's like, "Can I make it better?" It's like, nah, just go in the other room. You know, like, >> yeah, >> but um I guess what I'm getting at here

Laetitiais like, yeah, okay, you're you're adding these qualifiers of, oh my god, the boyfriend's not acting right, so yeah, of course I don't want to [ __ ] him. What about in this situation though? The boyfriend's not doing

Laetitiaanything wrong as far as we know. The girl, maybe they've been together for three years and she's just, I don't know, maybe she lost a little bit of attraction, but

Laetitiahe's otherwise the same exact guy. Um, her sex drive diminished, whatever. Let's assume the guy's not doing

Laetitiaanything wrong. He wants to have sex and maybe she [ __ ] once a month, but he wants to [ __ ] five times a week.

Bri Nightwood>> It's been three months and she's only [ __ ] him three times. Is it wrong for him to dump her? >> I mean, they should communicate about it and like I mean, there's been like a

Bri Nightwoodcommunication and she's still like not, you know, having sex and yeah, he should dump her cuz they're obviously not compatible. >> Exactly. I'm not saying I would disagree with you that he should dump her. Uh he

Laetitiathat's a determination that a man can can make, but I don't think it's wrong if he does. Like he could opt to stay in the relationship. Okay, maybe she's going through some [ __ ] We can work it out.

Laetitia>> Uh men also go through phases where they might not be maybe they're going through stress or they have a injury or something and their sex drive is is lower, whatever. if there's like a valid

Bri Nightwoodreason, like let's just say she's um she's going through chemo or something, then obviously it's kind of messed up if he were to dump her. >> But uh I think like if she's otherwise

Laetitiahealthy and she's not having sex with him as frequently as possible and he talks about it and she's not willing to, you know, perhaps >> make a change. >> There can be a compromise, but she won't

Laetitiaeven compromise. I don't actually I think people look can break up with somebody for any reason or no reason at all.

LaetitiaPeople reserve the right to break up with anyone for any reason. I'm just Oh, I just don't really I don't know. I want to date other people. How about that? You didn't do anything

Laetitiawrong, but I want to date other people. I don't think that's wrong. Do you? I mean, if that's your desire. >> Yeah.

Laetitia>> All right. Uh, let's see what else is there. Um, I'm not going to do everything on the questionnaire. Let's see. A woman, Jennifer, a woman should not be

Laetitiarejected because of her weight. Why is that? >> A woman should not be rejected.

SPEAKER_13>> I circled that. Yeah, maybe it was an accident. I think >> I think I completely misunderstood that because >> maybe you you accidentally >> Yeah. No, I I definitely think that's

Lexi (Chicago)totally fine. >> Totally fine. That's valid. >> All right. Nothing there then. >> Oh my gosh. Yeah. She was like talking about that girl that she like uh you know likes chubby guys. >> Yeah. I

Laetitia>> Yeah. You were like you're going to keep him unhealthy. >> No. I'm sorry. >> All right. Uh, let's see what else we can blast through here. >> Seeing him unhealthy is crazy. >> Uh, let's do let's do the bow video.

LaetitiaLet's do the bow video. >> I want to see. >> All right. So, this is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend and uh I dumped her,

Laetitiabut I This is really toxic, but what I I do is I don't like I like to make things

Laetitiaeasy for myself. So, I I recorded a tutorial video so to show to new women and like you should do this.

SPEAKER_06>> You will get blocked so quick. >> I admire like the dedication. >> I don't I would be like, "Bro, someone took the time to do this." >> It's like when you get a list of like

Laetitiayour pros and cons. >> Yeah. But, uh, is there room for you guys to scoot this way a little bit? Or just you three scoot that way? Scoot that way. >> Oh, yeah. There.

Laetitia>> Scoot. Scoot. Scoot. Scoot. Scoot. Scoot.

Laetitia>> All right. And like scoot into the table. Perfect. Scoot in. Scoot in. All right. That's mostly good. Okay. I almost Hold on. Let me adjust.

LaetitiaAll right. So, yeah, I took this video of my ex-girlfriend so that I could uh show it to new girlfriends so they knew how to act like a tutorial video. All right, go ahead and play it.

Laetitia>> Just >> Yeah. All right. Boom. Huge bow. She's got to bow as soon as I get home. This was after a long podcast recording. And uh yeah, you know,

Laetitialaundry right away. And then she has my dinner ready. As soon as I get home, the scampering, scampering, scampering, that's always good. Cracks open a beer

Laetitiafor me. Stirs my noodles. I dumped her. You see those raw tomatoes in the bottom right? That's actually why I dumped her. Like, who the [ __ ] eats raw tomatoes? Disgusting.

Laetitia>> I do. >> And then I I like to add Chinese um Skip to the end again.

LaetitiaPlay it. I I add uh Chinese characters to my videos too, just to really uh play the bow part just at the beginning.

Lexi (Chicago)At the beginning, boom, huge bow. Do you see the submissive hand posture? Deep, good depth. It could be, >> you know. Yeah, it could definitely be lower and straighter, you know. It could be lower. Kiss your feet, you know. And she should be praying to you to bless

Lexi (Chicago)you. >> Yeah. Yeah. She instead, what is she doing? She's holding on to herself. She's holding on to herself. She doesn't care about you. She cares about her. >> She needs to kiss your feet. >> Your shoes off. >> She should have taken my shoes off for

Lexi (Chicago)me to >> She should have been holding you. She should have been holding your hand instead of holding herself. >> She needs a fresh pair of socks for you to step into. >> Yeah. So, uh, what do you guys think? Would you do that for a guy?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Heated towel on the floor. Um, yeah. She's lacking. >> Would you do that for a guy? >> Yeah, I would. I've done a lot of things for it, man. >> Yeah, I'd do that. >> Wait, let's fix the mics. Can you

Bri Nightwood>> Yeah, >> I mean, yeah, but I be like I wouldn't want you to like film it and play it for like

Bri Nightwood>> should be like behind closed doors. So, I wouldn't want it. It's like, why are you filming this and showing this to people? >> Oh my god. >> Okay. All right. What about you? Would you do that for a guy? >> I I do that for my boyfriend now. Like I

Juliahave dinner ready for him when he comes home. >> Do you do the bow though? I'm talking about the bow. >> I mean, [ __ ] yeah. I'll be like, "Good morning, sir." >> Okay. W >> No. >> Would you do it for a woman? It's all right. >> Yeah, probably. But like, she better not film it. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. >> Yeah.

Julia>> Yeah. Don't film it. But that was just for instruction purposes. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Oh, okay. Well, >> okay. >> Nothing to argue with then. >> Nothing to argue with. >> We're too agreeable. We need to like I'd

Lexi (Chicago)wear a wizard. >> We're just a group of submissive women. >> Okay, Lexi. Okay. >> A man's worst nightmare. >> I bet Lexi pegs her boyfriend. >> Okay, I'd be down for pegging.

Laetitia>> Lexi's like, "Oh, I'm such a submissive woman." No, she probably yells in Cambodian and Spanish at the same time to her boyfriend. She probably whips him with She takes her belt off when she

Laetitiagets home. She [ __ ] whips him. She bends him over and just spanks him. She's wa That's okay. Okay, hold on. This getting a little [ __ ] ridiculous. >> What else do I do? >> Have you pegged Have you pegged a guy? >> I've never

Laetitia>> You seem like >> I've never pegged a man. >> I get pegging vibes from you to be honest. >> I have never pegged a man and I've only had anal once. >> Wow. Thank you for sharing that.

Laetitia>> Just Just putting it out there. Okay. >> I have a button for this. >> That's why I stick to anal sex. >> Can't get pregnant, you know. But uh

Lexi (Chicago)>> it's cuz I don't really like butt stuff. Okay. I'm not really the biggest fan. I mean, I would do it if I'm really attracted to the guy that I'm with cuz it's like he's doing it to me. It's like, "Oh my god, what are you doing to

Laetitiame? Crazy man. Yeah. >> All right. I love that for you, Lexi. I love that for you." You know, like my butt is my

Lexi (Chicago)new virginity. I'm only going to let my husband have it. >> I'm saving special. >> I'm saving my ass. >> As you should.

Laetitia>> I can't stop. >> Stop it. Good job. >> Jeez. Okay. Uh Alyssa here next to me.

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