HEATED DEBATE! She ONLY Dates FAT Men?! He CHEATED On Her With Her MOM?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk 286

Date: 2026-03-16

Duration: 8h 57m

Guests

NNicole (Kansas)

Brian Atlas

LLexi (Chicago)>

BBri Nightwood >

KKaylee Chico >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Julia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Kaylee Chico(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lindsey(guest)

SPEAKER_05Jenny(guest)

SPEAKER_07Laetitia(guest)

SPEAKER_08Chris Love(guest)

SPEAKER_09Maria (NC)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Lexi (Chicago)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Veronica(guest)

SPEAKER_12Brooklyn(guest)

SPEAKER_14Bri Nightwood(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

ControversyVeronica cries and rage quits during weight rejection debate

ControversyLindsey rage quits/kicked off after confronting Brian

Key MomentMichaela drove 2.5 hours to date wheelchair man with warrants, chose him over green-flag guy

Key MomentLexi: 27yo boyfriend cheated on her with her biological mother when she was 17

Key MomentBri Nightwood: throuple with Satanist DJ with 12 dead exes and subliminal mind control

QuoteBri made $1M from dick ratings on OnlyFans (10,000+ ratings)

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions + Findom

Lexi (findom $10K/mo), Chris Love (Playboy/stripper), Brooklyn, more.

Rage Quits

Veronica cries and rage quits during weight debate. Lindsey also rage quits/kicked off.

Lexi Ex Cheated With Her Mom

At 17, her 27yo boyfriend cheated with her biological mother at a hotel.

Bri Satanist DJ Throuple

Throuple with DJ who had subliminal mind control frequencies, altar for taking souls, 12 dead exes.

Trivia Failures

Chris Love can't name Canada. Valerie guesses 7 states in USA. Jenny thinks France capital is Italy.

Transcript

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LaetitiaWelcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make make sense of the modern dating hellscape. I'm your host, Brian Atlas. We're going to just jump right in here. Sorry that we're a

Lexi (Chicago)little bit late today. Go ahead. >> Hi, I'm Lexi. I'm 22. I do OAF and um I'm from Chicago. >> All right. Um, you're from like grew up in Chicago. >> Yeah, I'm born and raised in Chicago.

Laetitia>> Okay. How long you been doing? >> Well, I mean specifically like Bridge View or like Oaklan. >> Yeah. >> How long you been doing OF for? >> Like 3 years. >> Wait, this is I'm my OCD is already

Laetitiatriggering. Lexi one. Can you the your your seating pad? Can you turn it 180 degrees? >> What do you see how the tag is? You

Laetitia[ __ ] that up. >> Damn, bro. Holy [ __ ] >> Oh, >> is that better?

Laetitia>> I the the the tag was sticking out, boys. I had to [ __ ] fix it. I I think I fixed it. Maybe scoot your chair. All right, off to a good start, boys.

Bri Nightwood>> All right. Uh what what about you? >> Hi, I'm Bri Nightwood. I'm a entrepreneur, content creator, and musician from Las Vegas. Um, I also have a degree in forensic neurosychology.

Laetitia>> Age >> 26. >> 26. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, you said you have a degree in forensic neurosychology, >> correct? >> Bachelor's. >> Bachelor of Science. Yes.

Bri Nightwood>> Okay. Um, why don't you explain to the viewers and the other panelists what that is? So basically it's like a mixture of law and

Bri Nightwoodneurosychology. So let's just say like a guy killed his wife or something. Um and they're like he's on trial. They'd bring me in and like I would determine if he

Bri Nightwoodis criminally insane. And with their neuroscience part, I could scan like the gray matter in his brain to see if maybe it indicated schizophrenia and that could, you know, indicate that he is actually criminally insane and go to a

Bri Nightwoodpsych word rather than like prison for life. Yeah. >> Okay. >> How recently did you graduate? >> Um, oh gosh, it was back like in the pandemic and at the same time my like

Bri NightwoodOAF was blowing up and I was actually going to start my PhD. Um but I decided to follow the money because school's always there but like you know just got to chase that money first build my life.

Laetitia>> So 2022 23 >> 2020ish yeah >> 2020ish is when you graduated >> correct? >> Okay. Um are you in terms of what you

Bri Nightwoodlearned in terms of your degree? >> Are you using that at all for your work or >> Yeah. Um definitely like the psychology tactics that really helps with sales in a way like with OAF and um just business

Bri Nightwoodin general kind of um that did give me an edge with it. >> But have you had a job in concurrence with your only fans? >> Um >> related to your education?

Laetitia>> I mean not with my education like on paper like no but I've used the skills. That's what I mean. Yeah. >> All right. Uh I guess one question on

Bri Nightwoodthis. Can you relate to us uh your one big takeaway from your program? >> Oh gosh. Um I guess everyone has a little bit of something wrong with them

Laetitiain a way. Um it's always a bad thing, but um but we're all a little I don't know. We all have our quirks. >> Okay. >> Um and you uh question, did you take out

Bri Nightwoodstudent loans for >> No. Um, I was fortunate enough to have um my tuition covered with scholarships, but um living expenses were crazy. Oh my gosh. But that's why I kind of like

Bri Nightwoodstarted OAF and like streaming in the first place and I didn't expect that to like blow up like it did, but yeah, it all worked out, I guess.

Laetitia>> Um H So that's your one takeaway? >> I mean I guess >> we all have something a little crazy about us. I mean, I can tell you this. I

Laetitiadidn't go to university. I dropped out of college. >> Mhm. >> And I don't have a degree in forensic psychology >> that like >> Well, I could tell you. I mean, all

SPEAKER_13right. Um, okay. Uh, did do you go to college or any college at all, Lexi? Okay. What about you? >> Hi, I'm Jenny. I am 21. um just moved

SPEAKER_13here from Chicago to San Diego, but I was born and raised in Florida. Um I am a adult entertainer in the stripping industry. Um

Laetitia>> the stripping industry. That's I haven't heard that one, but that's a first. >> Well, >> I mean, I guess it is an industry, but >> Well, >> how long you've been stripping?

SPEAKER_13>> Um about three years now. I would probably say two and a half more so, but >> yeah, since I was 18. >> Okay. >> Um, >> any college or anything like that?

Laetitia>> No, just high school. >> Um, and uh, how often do you work in terms of the stripping? >> Um,

Jennywell, weekends for sure, but I do have lucky days on Wednesdays and Thursdays, so. >> Okay. What about you? Hi, I'm Kayie

JennyChico. I am 23 and I have my own art brand. So, I would say like I'm an entrepreneur. Um, I've built my own brand in my business through my art and

JennyI do invent vending like inerson vending markets and then I also sell on my Shopify and then I graduated from high school. >> Okay. And you do body modification.

Jenny>> Yes. Um, I also do human suspension. So, >> show it again. the the split tongue. >> Oh wow. Okay. >> And then uh I do human suspension too.

JennySo like I hang like they pierce my back >> and I hang from my back and they I just >> unmute the audio. Nathan, >> I just glide. So yeah,

Jenny>> glide. >> Yeah. This this video blew up uh that this guy took of me the host. Um it blew up on Facebook and everyone was like she's a witch without her broomstick. Do you do you do o or no?

Laetitia>> No. >> No. No sex work? >> No. I've been offered, but I haven't taken it. >> Okay. Nathan, were you able to get the the kick thing working or Okay. All

Juliaright. Uh, what about you? >> Hi, I'm Liliana. I'm 30 and I sell stuff on Tik Tok live stream. And then I have a bachelor's in studio arts and I almost finished my teaching credential, but

Julialowkey my current job pays a lot more. >> The t Tik Tok stuff. Okay. I might finish it at some point, but I like making money. I live in LA. >> And uh where are you from again?

Kaylee Chico>> I'm from an hour like east of LA, the Inland Empire. >> Okay. >> But I live in uh Hollywood. >> Gotcha. What about you? >> I'm Alexis XJ. Um I'm from Upper

Kaylee ChicoMichigan. I'm 25. I'm a welder and I do Only Fans and I sell artwork and restore old vehicles.

LaetitiaUh, and you have you you live on a farm >> and you have ducks or >> Yeah. chickens. >> Okay. Uh, and you you refer to your ducks as baggage.

Laetitia>> Do I? Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because Yeah. You don't have kids though. >> No. >> Those are your kids. Your ducks. >> They are. >> How many ducks do you have? >> Um, I think my water foul probably like 60 of them. And I have chickens and

Kaylee Chicoturkeys. And >> do they all have names? the all 60 of your water foul. >> Yeah, >> they're very special. >> No, >> they're all named after Star Wars characters. So, Padme, Anakin, Darth Vader. >> Okay.

Kaylee Chico>> Charger. >> How long you been doing OF for? >> Um, I began in 2022. Oh, and I do have a degree in welding. >> In welding. Okay. And you went to like a trade school for that or >> It's a traditional college with like a trade wing.

Laetitia>> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Um, interesting. I don't know if we've had a welder on the show before. >> Um, and are you uh do you create welding content?

Kaylee Chico>> Um, I've filmed my welds back in the past. No one really watched it, so no one cared. >> No. >> All right. >> Yeah. >> Don't you have to wear like a protective mask so you don't go blind when you're welding, right? >> Yeah.

Kaylee Chico>> Cuz it causes eye damage. >> Yeah. But can it still cause even with the mask, can it still cause some uh >> you're like fully protected basically? >> Yeah. If you like wear a shirt like this though, you'll burn your breasts like it

Kaylee Chicogives you a sunburn. >> You'll get a sunburn. That's wild. >> Okay. >> Have you ever had a welding accident? >> Um I mean I have burns on my chest, but >> Okay. >> Nothing crazy. >> Would you ever do underwater welding?

Kaylee Chico>> I would. I never have. I did. There was one accident when I was in school. My classmate cut the ends of his fingers off on the metal muncher in front of me. >> Yeah, >> that didn't happen to me. >> I watched this Nobody's gonna like three

Laetitiapeople watching are going to know this. Uh I watched this video about Delta P. Do you know Do you know about that? I mean, a lot of it's not just welders, underwater welders who would experience

Laetitiathis, but pretty terrifying [ __ ] Anybody in the chat knows about delta P? That is terrifying. And a lot of like underwater welders will Anyways, whatever. Uh totally irrelevant. Um,

Brooklynwhat about you? >> I'm Michaela. I'm 28 and I'm currently a graduate student at CES Sun and I also

Brooklynteach intro GE classes. I mentor teenagers as a caregiver and I'm a teaching assistant. >> All right. Uh, what about you?

Maria (NC)>> I'm Nicole. I am 34 years old and I'm from Kansas City. Um, I'm a stay at home mom and I have a degree in Spanish, but I'm a stay at home mom.

Veronica>> All right. What about you? >> I'm Alyssa. I'm 33 years old. I'm from Ohio and I am a server. >> Any college or anything like that? >> I went to college for a really short

Veronicatime. >> Okay. Um, >> did you say server or surfer? >> I'm a server. >> Oh, okay. >> Wait, where do you live? I live in Ohio. >> You think in Ohio an

Jenny>> I was like, you know, maybe she works here like part time. She surfs up, goes back home. >> Where are you from? >> Chicago. Well, born and raised Indiana. >> What is she? >> I live in Chicago. >> I think isn't Ohio landlocked

Jennycompletely. Like Yeah. In Chicago, you have like the the the >> You don't She makes good money where she could just be like, "I'm going to go on a surfing

Laetitia>> trip Ohio prur." And then fly back every >> Oh, maybe with if there's wave in 20 years, maybe there will be wave parks

Laetitiaeverywhere. Uh, okay, cool. So, we uh Roxy, thanks for the gifted subs. Appreciate it. Kaibaka, thank you for the resub. Uh, okay. We are uh going to go around the table once more. What's

Lexi (Chicago)your current relationship status? >> Me, I'm single. >> Yeah. And then also also tell us uh how long you've been single and tell us the longest relationship you've ever been in. >> Okay. Well, the last relationship I was

Lexi (Chicago)in was the longest relationship I've ever been in. It was like 3 years, but we were on and off, so it was like 3 years consecutively, you know. >> Okay. >> Um Yeah. Um I've been single for like a year. >> Who broke up with who?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Um I broke up with him. And I broke up with him after I started doing o. we've uh we we started doing OAF together, I guess. And um well, he like convinced me to do it and then a year later he was

Lexi (Chicago)just like taking a lot of money from me and I was like paying for rent, groceries, everything and yeah, so I don't know. I just broke up with him. I was like, "No, can't do this anymore."

Bri Nightwood>> Okay. All right. Uh what about you? >> I am in an open relationship. Uh my longest relationship was about six or seven years. It was my high school sweetheart. Yeah.

LaetitiaOkay. Uh, how long have you been in the current relationship? >> Two years. >> And it's an open relationship, >> correct? >> Open on both ends. >> Yes.

Bri Nightwood>> Okay. And, uh, which one of you gets more action? >> Um, I don't know. We like to kind of, uh, make it equal, like even it out.

LaetitiaIt's like you get one, I get one. Just keep it kind of fair for everyone. >> Okay. Uh >> do you guys also do like engage in uh

Bri Nightwoodswinging or threesomes, forsomes? >> We've done threesomes, foursomes. Uh mainly for content. Yeah. Of content. >> Um yeah, we're still like we kind of

Bri Nightwoodwant to um just take it slow with the open part though cuz I have um I have endometriosis. I don't know if you know what that is, but it's just like sometimes like sex can be hard in general. So, and like my health is I'm very health conscious. So, it's like I

Bri Nightwoodneed to make sure like if we're going to, you know, be opening things up and bringing someone in that everyone is tested and, you know, just don't there's a lot of cooties out there.

Bri Nightwood>> Have you ever uh participated in any group sex, orgy, sex club, that sort of thing? >> Oh my gosh. I was in an orgy with one of like Hugh Hefner's exwives once. That

Bri Nightwoodthat was crazy. And um there were like it was for like a content party. That was probably the craziest experience. But um I didn't really like um do much. I was more like a side character in it. I was kind of just like Yeah. Like kind

SPEAKER_13of um observing it. >> Okay. What about you? >> Um I'm single. Recently single. Um our relationship ended early February. Um we

SPEAKER_13hit the 3 month mark and that's where it broke. But um my longest relationship was about like a year, but I don't even think it's really a year cuz it was kind

Laetitiaof on and off. So, >> okay. Uh, so you've been single for about a month? >> Yeah. >> Uh, has it been on and off with the

SPEAKER_13three-month guy? >> Oh, no. The old relationship before him. >> Yeah. >> But the one that ended a month ago was 3 months, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. When's the last time you saw him?

Laetitia>> Um, like January. >> Okay. So, it was a clean break. Yeah. Um, >> you're not like, well, we're broken up but still sleeping together type thing.

SPEAKER_13>> Yeah. No, we're he's in San Fran and I'm in San Diego, so 8 hours away. It's kind of like hard to see him every day if I >> Is he a tech bro? >> Um, he's a mechanic.

SPEAKER_13>> Mechanic. Okay. So, would you fly to see him? >> Yeah, but he would pay for my flights, so I never >> He's a mechanic. >> Yeah, he's a mechanic. like a high-end mechanic or he works at a like Ford

SPEAKER_13dealership and >> like he just like in a not like a Ford dealership but like a like a >> Does he own his own business or he's employed? >> He's employed. >> How old is he?

Laetitia>> 23 now. >> You make more money than him, don't you? >> Yeah. >> Why? So why is he flying you out? >> Because >> shouldn't you be [ __ ] strippers make

SPEAKER_13a [ __ ] ton of money, right? because he offered and I'm going to take it. So, >> cuz he offered. >> Yeah. >> But like, okay, I mean, you don't have to reveal your earnings or whatever, but

Laetitialike what what's like a good night? You'll make a couple thousand, a thousand, >> like a thousand or more. Yeah, that's a good night to me. >> And then you monetize in other ways. So,

Laetitialike what? You're making six figures a year?

LaetitiaI don't know. [ __ ] Maybe you should pay for the for the flights. Should have. Maybe that's why it didn't work. It's like, damn, she's making more than me and I Why am I paying? >> Well, when I was dating him, I stopped

SPEAKER_13dancing for him and I got a regular 9 to5 >> for him. So, >> you But it was a long-distance relationship. So,

Laetitia>> I really liked him. >> Okay. Uh, all right. Well, here's a question really quick, and we'll get back to the relationship status. Let me

Laetitiapresent a hypothetical scenario. You have a 23 23-year-old woman dating a 23 year old man. Uh, she doesn't even have

Laetitiato be a sex worker, but let's say um he's pay paycheck to paycheck. And let's say they even earn the same amount of money. I don't know, they make $25 an

Laetitiahour. uh he's paycheck to paycheck. She has $70,000 worth of savings. Should he do you think the guy in that

Laetitiasituation should be say they've been together for a year, right? Do you think he should be paying for [ __ ] in the relationship?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Even though you got 70k in savings and >> it doesn't matter. What if I had a kid and they need to do like a C-section and I paid for that with all my savings so that I can have a kid with you?

Laetitia>> Well, what if he what if he had cancer and he needed [ __ ] healthcare? So, in the hypothetical I presented, there was not a granting that you're like pregnant or you have a kid. You're both childless.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Yeah, but I just think that a guy should pay for anything at the end of the day because I'm going to be having a kid with you and I need to know that you're going to be there for me and provide for us. So, the guy should pay even like you probably are high earner. You have a big

Laetitiafollowing. Uh, change split. You're a high earner. You have a big following. Um, I don't know. Do you make like a million dollars a year or more?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Less. You make less. You make mid six figures though, right? >> Um, well, every year is different. I've been doing it for three years, so sometimes like it's just like really really bad. It's like, oh man, what am I

Laetitiadoing? >> Okay. Um, so your argument is men should pay because maybe one day I will be pregnant. >> Yeah.

Laetitia>> Okay. How many men have you dated? >> Um, I've dated like a handful of guys. Seriously? >> When I say date, I mean like you went out to dinner once with a guy.

Laetitia>> Okay. So, dating as in like not having sexual relationships? >> I mean, you could, but basically when I say date, I don't mean like this is your long-term boyfriend. I mean, a guy who

Laetitiayou entertained, you know, you went out to dinner once. I would count that. I'm asking how many times, how many different men? >> Um, probably at least 15. >> 15. How many children do you have? >> None. >> Zero.

Laetitia>> No. >> So, okay. Men should pay for dates because >> What if I did get pregnant on the first date? on the first, but it's like I don't understand this argument that uh one day down the road you probably don't even

Lexi (Chicago)>> Well, I mean like a man is like asking to be in a relationship and so he should provide for that woman. >> What if the woman's asking to be in the relationship? >> Well, I mean I feel like women are agreeing men are like really, you know, asking for it.

Laetitia>> Well, that would be secondary. But um are you on birth control? >> No. >> Well, when you're dating a guy, are you on birth control? Um, I just got off of birth control. So, >> So, you were on birth control?

Laetitia>> Yeah. >> So, then how about this? Here's a proposition. If the woman's on birth control, you should not pay for the date >> because she can't have a kid. She can't have a kid.

Laetitia>> But there's always a 1% chance. It's never like 100%. So, while we double down, if the man has a vasectomy uh

Laetitiaand or he uh he wears a condom, the woman pays for the entire thing. So, not just go 50/50 on the date, you know, split the bill.

Lexi (Chicago)The woman pays the entire bill. >> Yeah. Well, I guess it's just like my preference. Like, I prefer a man to pay for everything. That's like my preference, >> you know? >> Yeah. >> You prefer the man to pay for everything? >> Yes. Why?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Because I feel like I deserve that. >> Why do you deserve that? >> Because I deserve to have a good life and um I want to have kids. So if a man can't provide me kids, I wouldn't date him in the first place. >> Why do you feel like you can't provide for yourself like pay for your own?

Jenny>> I can't provide for myself. >> So why don't you? >> I do. >> But most of the time you want the man to. >> No. If I date a man, I want him to provide for me. Mhm. >> So even if they do provide for you, if you are dating a man, so you go on a first date, so right off the bat, you

Lexi (Chicago)consider that he should pay off right off the bat. >> Yes. >> Even though he knows nothing about you, you guys are just getting to know each other. >> Yeah. Because he has to get to know me and he has to um >> But you have to get to know him, too.

Julia>> If he wants to do 50/50, we can, but that would be the last time I see him. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah. >> I feel like it's it's interesting cuz I only date girls like at this point. And it's interesting because I think like

Juliasome people do that, but then it's usually like who makes more. But I see your perspective. >> Yeah. >> But it's like I do prefer to date somebody that like makes as much money as me cuz I've dated like a broke mask

Jennyand like they're a very kind person, but I don't want to be doing that. So I I feel the vibe. >> I've dated a lot of broke guys and I've also the guy that I'm with right now, it's I do not expect him to pay for my

Jennydinner because he works his ass off for his money. And I am not going to go out of my way to say you need to put your all of your money. >> But if he doesn't have enough money to go on a date, then why did he ask? >> He does have enough money to go on a

Jennydate. But why would you think that you are like why do you think that he owes you that? >> Because I feel that men >> he doesn't know you. >> So >> So it's like why wouldn't you put yourself why wouldn't you put yourself out there

Jenny>> and say, "Oh, well I make this money and I know you make this money, but we could both split the bill because we don't we don't know each other yet. Just >> Yeah. >> We're still getting to know each other. You don't owe me anything. >> I feel like people with the same mindset

Lexi (Chicago)just need to like find each other. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But so why why you said you deserve a good life, >> right? Like I don't want to just waste my life with a guy that doesn't want to

Laetitiahave kids cuz I want to have kids. >> Well, here but okay. Do men deserve a good life? >> Yeah. >> But so here's your argument. I deserve a good life. Airgo men should pay for dates. >> Yeah. because that's the life that I

Laetitiawant. >> But if the logic is I deserve a good life, therefore other person who I'm dating should pay for dates, that would have to equally apply to men if men deserve a good life. So you're going to

Laetitiahave to make a specific argument as to why you or women specifically deserve to have their [ __ ] paid for. >> So do you see him paying for the date as an investment in your potential future relationship?

Laetitia>> Yeah. >> Well, I'd like my question answered first before other people uh divert away from my question. Go ahead. >> I'm not sure if I understand the question. >> I'm looking for So, you're just saying I'm looking for more of an argument. I

Laetitiamean, I could just repeat what I said again. You said, "I deserve a good life. Therefore, men should pay." Okay. I deserve a good life. Should women pay for me? >> If that's what you want. >> If Okay. If that's what I want.

Laetitia>> Yeah. If that's what would make you happy in your life, then that's the decisions that you have to make in your life. But I think you're going to need further justification than simply I deserve a good life. Why specifically do

Laetitiayou or women uh why do they deserve to or are they entitled to a man paying for [ __ ] >> Well, I guess like it's just like your preference, you know, like uh some women

Lexi (Chicago)like to go 50/50, some women like a man to provide everything. And I just uh you know, I think you have to make the decisions based on what you want in your life. >> Okay. But um

Lexi (Chicago)h >> like if a guy can't pay for the first date, then I wouldn't see him or I wouldn't go on that date. >> But how do you know he can't pay for it? >> If I ask him, you know, where are we going? And he says McDonald's or I can't

Lexi (Chicago)I can't take you anywhere or you can come over. I'm not going. >> But that's different from already being at the restaurant and being, hey, you want to split the bill or you going to play? >> If he asked me to meet him at a restaurant and we go there and he asked

Laetitiame to go 50/50, that's the last time I'm seeing him. Because why did you ask me to come somewhere nice and then now I have to pay for it? >> Well, now you're Hold on. >> Because you can afford it. >> Hold on. You're smuggling in something

Laetitiathat wasn't even asserted. Now you're adding this this other layer to it of oh well if you're going to invite me to a luxury restaurant uh like that puts me in like a predicament where I assume you

Laetitiacould afford it technically but if you were to say invite a college student to like a uh I don't know an example of a a super expensive restaurant that would be to some degree inconsiderate

Laetitiabut let's assume it's just like I don't know mid mid-tier place. >> Chili's. Yeah.

Lexi (Chicago)>> So, okay. So, you are desirous of traditional gender roles. >> Do you deserve traditional gender roles? >> Um, I think like what do you mean me personally or like women in general?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Uh, well, let's start with you and then we can get to women in general. >> Okay. Well, me personally, I think that I make enough to provide for myself and so I don't really need to like um

Lexi (Chicago)surrender the luxury that I have like which is like my peace of mind, my own, you know, comfort that I can pay for my bills and anything like that. Like if I date a man and I want like traditional gender roles, like he's probably going

Lexi (Chicago)to want me to not do this kind of line of work, right? Not um not work at all. Probably be home, cook, clean, etc., etc. I would be okay with that. Didn't you just say that some months you don't even know why you're doing Only Fans? So

Lexi (Chicago)therefore, you can always provide for yourself. >> I do always provide for myself. >> So even if you don't have the money, you're providing for yourself. >> Yeah, I've been single for a year. This entire year that I've been single, never

Lexi (Chicago)had any issues ever. Car note paid, bills paid. >> But you literally just said you struggle some months where you ask yourself >> like where I'm like budgeting and you know, I think that's normal. I think you just have to make um good financial decisions.

Lexi (Chicago)>> So during that time when you're budgeting, do you think that the man should still pay for your dinner? Sign you shouldn't split even struggling. I'm probably not worried about a man. I'm worried about getting my money up.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Okay. I still I still didn't really get a answer to my question is uh so uh why do you deserve that? Um, well, I just feel like I like built this life that I have for myself already, and I would

Lexi (Chicago)want someone that can add to it and not take away from it or make me have to go less or um feel less in my day-to-day life just because he doesn't make as much money as me or he's not in the same

Laetitiaum place where I am. >> Okay. But so you currently are single. >> So in terms of and you pay for your own food,

Laetitia>> you pay your own rent. So, if a guy came in and you guys were equitably contributing to the finances of the household, which I'm assuming is like

Laetitiaeven a year down the road, perhaps even longer before you'd even consider moving in. I mean, some people move in on shorter timelines, but um it wouldn't be

Laetitiato it would actually be uh an improvement in your lifestyle arguably to go from he pays everything and you pay nothing versus your current

Laetitiaposition, which is you're paying entirely for your own rent, your own food, your own bills, everything. So I don't understand like let's say you were like let's say you encountered a guy who wants to go 50/50.

Lexi (Chicago)That's a that's a no-go though for you. Correct. >> So it's like hey babe let's move in together but we're both going to equally contribute to the rent. >> No go. That's not >> so if I'm like just dating a guy I would

Lexi (Chicago)expect him to like want his financials to be together as well. Like he wants to be financially stable. He wants to you know succeed in life. He wants great things for himself. That's what I would want in a man. >> So he would pay for his own bills, his

Lexi (Chicago)own things and everything. I would pay for my own things as well. And so, you know, when we do like move in together, then he would take over paying bills cuz he knows how to pay bills. >> You don't know how to pay bills? >> Well, if he wants like to have like a

Laetitiatwo, threebedroom house with a wife and kids, and he's going to pay for it. >> Uh, well, okay, that might make sense when you start having kids. So, you're going to stop working when you have

Lexi (Chicago)kids. Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, that's like kind of like what would happen, right? >> Okay. But so, you're you're 22. When do you want to have your first kid? >> Um, I would want to have my first kid

Lexi (Chicago)when I'm financially stable and I have a husband. >> When you're financially stable. >> Yeah. When like, >> so, you know, >> so conceivably, let's say you meet the

Laetitiaperfect guy, you could be ready to have kids in 6 months. >> Yeah. Okay.

LaetitiaI'm Okay. Um Well, then I guess the other question is um do you think that a guy providing in that way is a traditional gender role

Lexi (Chicago)dynamic? >> Like providing like for everything? Yes. >> It's traditional, right? Yes. >> Are you a traditional woman? >> Um well, not exactly, so to speak, like

Lexi (Chicago)because of my line of work. Yeah. >> Okay. So, you're not traditional, but you deserve traditional. >> Well, everyone has a preference, you

Laetitiaknow. Some guys have a lot of high body count, but they still want to date a virgin. >> There's actually not nothing wrong with that. But, uh, >> it's just a preference, you know. >> Yeah, I think that's that would be a

Laetitialittle different a bit different of a scenario. But, um, so in terms of you though, so you are a sex worker. Um, you do Only Fans. Do you do boy girl content? >> Um, no. >> Have you ever done boy girl content?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Yeah, when me and my ex first started doing uh OAF, then we started doing well basically everything. >> Is it still up on your OAF? >> No. >> Okay. But you did distribute boy girl content? >> Yeah.

Laetitia>> Have you done boy girl content with any other men? >> No, >> just him. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh, have you done any mainstream content? >> Um, what does that mean? mainstream porn.

Laetitia>> Um, no. >> Okay. Um, all right. So, uh, look, being a sex worker,

Laetitiait's not really a traditional profession. Um, in the sense of being a traditional woman, you're looking for a guy to be traditional, do those sort of chivalous things, right? You want a guy

Laetitiato be chivalous but you are not through your own conduct, your own profession, you are not doing uh moving through life in such a way as to inspire that

Laetitiatraditional and or maybe not inspire is not the right word. Ultimately, you're just not deserving of it. Now, you might still get it. There's a lot of men uh who are simps. There's a lot of men who

Laetitialook, you're an attractive girl. I'm sure a lot of guys they'll take you to those restaurants and they'll pay and they'll do all the [ __ ] So, I I don't it's not a doubt in my mind that you'll

Laetitiabe able to find guys who are willing to do that. I'm having like a perhaps a a bird's eye view conversation. And I'm

Laetitialooking at the chessboard of dating dynamics and I'm like, okay, as a woman, if you want a guy to be chivalous, to protect, to provide, to pay for dates,

Laetitiato do all, you know, uh, open the car door, observe the sidewalk rule, I believe then that women just women have to hold up their end of the contract,

Laetitiathe social contract. And I don't get the impression that women are um but you still so basically you want to be modern women but you want

Laetitiamen to be tad. Women get to be modern. Women get to pretty much throw any sort of even hint of traditionality

Laetitiacompletely away. You get to forsake it completely. Meanwhile, you might as in terms of what you want men to do, you might as well be 1950s bachelorettees.

Lexi (Chicago)Well, I mean, I think um I think men and women are both like modern. Like, you know, guys, like they're always like they're going to have like social media. They're they're always going to have like some kind of history. Nobody's a

Lexi (Chicago)virgin nowadays. Everybody has a a past. So, I think we should just grow up. And if you want to have that kind of life together, then it's like it's a achievable thing. >> You said guys have social media. What do

Lexi (Chicago)you mean by that? Well, I mean like guys like I've seen guys do thirst like traps, you know, like showing off their abs, like looking at themselves in the mirror, their their abs. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, their abs. They must be

Lexi (Chicago)gay then. >> You know, I've like I've seen guys like with tripods at the gym. Like just cuz you don't have an OF doesn't mean like you're not, you know, >> traditional. I'm not going to dispute

Laetitiathat there's definitely men who do that. there's that. I mean, uh, that's [ __ ] stupid and they they shouldn't be doing that. But um

LaetitiaI I would say the the proportion of men who are uh getting validation through social media pales massively in comparison to uh women who are on social

Lexi (Chicago)media for the sake of uh validation, attention. >> Well, even if uh men don't contribute to like, you know, social media, they still consume it and they're like the consumer. Like they're the like people that

Laetitia>> Yeah, exactly. >> Uh well, yeah. I mean, I don't I definitely this this criticism isn't exclusively directed at women. I think men in a lot of ways have things that they need to improve on and correct on.

LaetitiaUh they shouldn't be like following a bunch. Although I I'm curious what an OF girl thinks about this, but uh I don't think men should be following a bunch of IG thoughts and IG models. They

Laetitiashouldn't be following any women. Uh they they shouldn't be like liking their photos and gooning over their [ __ ] uh thirst trap bikini pics on Instagram.

LaetitiaThat's [ __ ] lame as a guy. Uh so yeah. I don't know. Hold on. We have a TTS coming in. >> Just came in. Base Thor. Thank you. >> Based Thor donated $200.

SPEAKER_00Why is it always women in cheetah print outfits that has the most to say and entitled as [ __ ] I would smack the [ __ ] out of you against animal abuse. At least we send the animal SMA.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Do you want to Do you want to respond to Bay Thor? >> Um, smack me where?

Jenny>> Uh, okay. >> Also, I do think men um there and women too, uh, virgin is still very much a thing for a lot of people. That's not something that's vanished. Actually,

Jennythere's I think there's a bit more male virgins than uh female virgins. >> I can counter on that from from someone that I've dated. I'm not going to say which boyfriend it was cuz I don't need

Jennythat on the internet. It's not it's theirs, but I have taken someone's virginity and they wanted to do the traditional wait till I was in love with someone. And so, yeah, those guys are still out there. They do exist.

Laetitia>> Yeah. But, uh yeah, I don't know. um does seem like uh does seem like we're

Laetitiaholding men to this traditional standard, but women are really not holding up their end of the deal. Some women are, just to be clear. I'm not saying all women, but it seems to me

Laetitialike, look, if you're a sex worker, just hey, go 50/50.

Lexi (Chicago)>> No. No. If I'm a sex worker, I will do what I have to do to pay my rent. And if someone wants to save a hoe, I'm here for the saving. That's all I have to

Lexi (Chicago)say. >> Would you post um boy girl content if it saved your rent? >> No. No. I just wouldn't do that again because I don't think that I have to in order to um make a living. You know, I I

Lexi (Chicago)haven't posted that kind of like uh content for 2 years. So, I just don't think it makes sense for me to go back into doing it if I haven't done it. Like, >> someone offered you um like $100,000 for a >> I wouldn't do it for the money. >> You wouldn't do it?

Lexi (Chicago)>> No, I wouldn't do it for the money cuz it's already gone. So, why would I put myself back out there like that? >> It didn't really feel good in the first place, you know. I don't think uh some people don't um >> some people don't like that. You know, some people like it, some people have

Laetitiatheir preferences, >> right? >> Okay. Question for you. Um, oh [ __ ] I actually just lost it. Damn, it was a good one. It was a good one, too. >> I'll conjure back.

Laetitia>> Yeah, just just to be uh just to be clear. Uh, so I'm not saying that women who are sex workers, women who are strippers, women who do Only Fans, I'm not saying that

Laetitiayou should be mistreated. You should still be treated kindly with respect, but what you're asking for is something on top, which is chivalry. So that's men paying for dates, men providing, men

Laetitiaprotecting. Uh I assume you I don't know what kind of type of guy you want to go for because I mean, but like would you want a guy who has a bit more of a masculine expression to him? >> Um

Lexi (Chicago)>> or do you not care? Like you'll date a liberal soy boy. >> Um I guess it just like depends on who the guy is. I don't really have like a

Laetitiapreference when it comes to like uh masculinity. Okay. >> Yeah. >> But in any case, you do want a guy to pay all the bills. He's going to have to fully provide. Um, so

Lexi (Chicago)>> yeah. Well, if he if he did that, then I would, you know, like take care of him as well. I feel like if I like if I'm being taken care of, I would take care of that. My partner as well. >> How so? >> Um, well, if he doesn't want me to do

LaetitiaOAF, I wouldn't do OF anymore. As long as he's paying for my bills, then I don't have to worry about that, you know? >> Okay. >> That's just like how it would go. It would be >> Let's talk about the the bills a little bit, but like aside from you quitting OAF,

Lexi (Chicago)>> you said you take care of him. How would you take care of him? >> Um, well, just like I guess the traditional way that a man should want to be like taken care of, like >> which is what >> like cooking for him and um just being there for him like emotionally, things

Lexi (Chicago)like that. >> What about cleaning? >> Yeah, of course. Cleaning the house. Yeah. Well, I mean I think that every woman should know how to cook and clean by themselves. like you should know how to maintain your own house and clean and

Lexi (Chicago)cook your own food, like make your own meals. So, >> should uh should she be uh submissive? >> Um yes, I do believe that like if you're in a traditional relationship, then it should be um traditional by like all

Laetitialike >> I notice here on the questionnaire, normally I save the questionnaire for a little bit later on the show, but uh for questions one through five, so you agree with the following four statements. Men should pay on first dates. Men should

Laetitiaprovide slprotect. Men should be chivalous. Husbands should be willing to die protecting you. Is everything okay over there on

Laetitia>> I don't I don't know. Um but you for question five or statement five, uh I will keep my last name or Oh,

Laetitiaactually no, hold on. Wait. >> You'll take your husband's last name. Is that correct? Okay. Yeah. >> All right. >> Well, that's how it goes. >> I misaw that. >> Okay. >> I thought I thought you had circled it,

Laetitiabut my eyes deceived me. Okay. Um, let's see. Husband should die protecting you. Um,

Laetitiaokay. H. Yeah. Still a sex worker. Sorry. Sorry. Doesn't change anything. Doesn't change anything. Look, just date a nice uh guy

Lexi (Chicago)who goes 50/50. >> Um I don't know. I still have my preference and like my dad, he's like a traditional man, you know? He's like always taken care of like everything. He's like kind of like instilled that into me. Like you don't need to be the

Laetitiarichest man in order to provide for a woman. You just like you need to be uh content with >> I mean I could be wrong, but my initial read on you is you have expensive taste.

Lexi (Chicago)Um, I don't really care about like living like luxuriously, lavishly. Like I don't care what car you drive. I don't care what brand like my kids backpack is. Like we can go to Walmart. I don't

Lexi (Chicago)care. I will shop at Walmart. And >> you just said, excuse me. You just said that if he took you to McDonald's, you'd be upset. >> Well, I mean, like on a first date, that's kind of crazy. a first date at

Lexi (Chicago)McDonald's. I will go to McDonald's on like another date, you know, a casual date after we've already been seeing each other. >> Do you have a do you have an expensive bag? >> No. Uh my bag is uh 30 bucks from Urban

LaetitiaOutfitters. >> Well, maybe not the one you brought, but do you own an expensive bag? >> If I do, a man bought it.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Uh how show show us your nails. How recent are are those? They are about three weeks grown now and they were 60 bucks. >> Okay. So, let's say you're dating a guy

Laetitiaand he's like, "Look, if I'm going to provide for everything, uh, I'm going to have some authority on certain expenses here in the household, you're not going to get fake nails anymore. You okay with that?" >> Yeah. But,

Laetitia>> all right. She's [ __ ] got me. She's got me then. I mean, uh, still though sex worker. Still sex worker. >> Okay.

LaetitiaUh so okay ultimately though look and again women who do only fans or strip or sex work not saying they should be mistreated not saying they don't deserve

Laetitiauh well respect question mark but um ultimately it's not traditional. >> Yeah

Laetitia>> it's just completely not traditional. Uh so you might still get it. Maybe there's even a good chance you'll still end up

Lexi (Chicago)in that sort of dynamic. But do you deserve it? I say no. >> Well, you know, everyone is um entitled to their opinion. So, that's the beautiful thing about life. >> Yeah. But I'm not so interested in just

Laetitialike being entitled to my opinion. I'm actually interested in interested in perhaps uh having people reassess their own standards so they're commensurate to

Laetitiawhat they're offering. and also prescriptively advising men, listen, um, you're getting a raw deal here a little

Laetitiabit, uh, because that woman is not holding up her end of the deal. So, I don't know.

Maria (NC)Okay. Does anybody else want to weigh in on this topic? I was just wondering, you said so McDonald's to be a no-go. Like how nice of a first date are you expecting? Cuz my husband always thought

Maria (NC)too high on that first date cuz that's going to set the expectation for the future. >> And he actually took me somewhere really nice for our first date, but his best friend was like, "Dude, if you do that, like she's going to expect it." And it it is not the way that it goes for us.

Maria (NC)But >> that kind of what standard what level do you expect on that first date as compared to on the norm? I guess like um mid mid-range and above is good. Like chilies and above is good.

Jenny>> Do you smoke? >> I do. >> So McDonald's like getting 40 chicken nuggets, fries, and smoking in the car wouldn't be a good date to you. Not enough.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Um it depends. Like if you're a man, no. If you're a girl, yeah, that's a great first date with a girl. But like >> Wait, you're you're bisexual? >> Uh yeah. >> Okay. Um,

Lexi (Chicago)>> so with the girlies it's okay, but with a guy you're like take me to Chili's. >> Um, well I feel like men should be providers and I feel like women like I'm just like I guess like emotionally more sensitive to like you know we are both

Lexi (Chicago)like in it together. We both have the same problems whereas like men are already like biologically have an advantage but there's a difference. >> Wait wait wait wait wait hold on

Lexi (Chicago)>> what what advantage do uh men have? you guys are like at least twice as strong as us. You guys can work longer hours than we can. So, I just feel like men

Laetitiaare like basically on this planet to um traditionally put on this planet to provide for women.

Laetitia>> Well, you do realize most uh most uh jobs at least today don't require

Lexi (Chicago)physical strength. Many do, but >> just being able to walk. >> Most jobs are not like hard labor jobs. >> Yeah. Well, either way, I feel like um you know, like men, they have

Lexi (Chicago)testosterone all day long that like pumps them up full of energy. Like by the end of the night, like most of the time, men will still be able to like drive and like they're just like talkative. >> I don't really think that's a thing.

Jenny>> Yeah. My boyfriend when he gets off work from working at the airport, he's done. Like there is no extra. And I think women can work just as many hours as men also.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Yeah. I don't know. I just um I think that like biologically men just they naturally have more >> stronger. Yeah. But I think like

Jennyendurance wise that doesn't just come from Yeah. You can't Yeah. Like I work retail. I used to work retail and I would stand on that floor for 12, 14

Jennyhours where my boyfriend, he works at the airport and he can do the same exact thing, but he's still going to be depleted and tired.

Laetitia>> I don't understand the logic though. So, uh, just because men have a capac a better capacity for physical labor, uh,

Laetitiait doesn't necessarily follow that in every given situation, a man who's in a physical labor job would outear a potential girlfriend or a woman. Like,

Laetitiayou probably out earn uh 99% of men who do physical labor jobs. You might even earn in a month how much they make in a year. Have you ever h Have you ever made six figures in a

Laetitiamonth? >> Um, I don't know. >> Damn, you got to step your [ __ ] up then. You're [ __ ] up. Uh, >> got to be on that 1%.

Laetitia>> She's got Come on. Uh, anyways, uh, or maybe she's just being uh, modest. Um, >> yeah, she may not. Depending on what she sells, >> she's got to show me. She'll show me her

LaetitiaOFN. depending on what she sells can be cuz some girls sell bikini pics, some girls sell the whole thing. So I think it really >> I mean [ __ ] my understanding is some of these girls show nothing and >> Exactly.

Jenny>> They make a [ __ ] ton. >> Yes. And then they have I've cuz I've been offered different agencies and I've all turned them down cuz when my lawyer looked into it, they were all full of crap. Um >> well that's >> yeah but it's just there's

Jenny>> material to the conversation but >> yeah it's it's just um when it comes to those industries it's just very it ranges.

Laetitia>> Uh so okay men men have male advantage. Are there any other male advantages? >> Um no. So, do you think uh women like a

Laetitiawoman because of what you just outlined, should a woman not be uh able to become like president, for example? >> Um, no. I think that we're still like a

Lexi (Chicago)lot more capable of making like decisions like that. I think that men and women have their own strengths and I feel like physical physical strength that is like where a man um you know,

Lexi (Chicago)he's um usually just better at that. >> Do you believe in feminism? Um, I don't know if I would call myself

Laetitiaa feminist. Okay. >> Um, okay. But, uh, your argument was that men are able to work longer hours. This would also conceivably have to

Lexi (Chicago)apply to other like like being president. >> Um, well, I mean, it's not really physical labor, you know.

LaetitiaSo, >> Okay. So, as long as you're So, okay, if the guy's a physical laborer, then he should pay for the date or be a provider, but if he has an office job, then you can go 50/50 with him.

Laetitia>> No. Um, >> your argument is because men can work longer hours, uh, that's why they should pay for dates. Do you only date men who are in blue collar work?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Well, I just think that because men can work longer hours, they should provide for women. But you just said that in an office setting where there's no physical

Laetitialabor involved, men and women are basically equal. So if you're dating a guy who works an

Laetitiaoffice job, maybe you go 50/50. Seems a bit backwards though, but

Laetitia>> Cricket, sorry. Nothing. Okay. You had something. Go ahead. >> Um, I don't remember what I was going to say. >> Nobody else wants to weigh in. You guys are just going to be [ __ ] silent the

Laetitiawhole show. >> Oh, wait. Did we finish the thing? The popup, >> bro. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. >> I didn't I was I was trying to read it. >> No, it's below the threshold. We're doing 100 and up. Don't worry about it. >> Okay. >> I want to say something.

SPEAKER_13>> Oh, yeah. No, you >> um so I think sex work kind of has like a toll on like

SPEAKER_13what like Okay, so before I became a stripper, I was okay with like being 50/50 all the time with like my

SPEAKER_13boyfriends at the time. But after being a dancer, I think what I get from it is if men that don't even know me and it's their first time

SPEAKER_13seeing me like ever, like they know nothing about me, my personality, if they can give me a [ __ ] ton of their [ __ ] money and I don't like why can't

SPEAKER_13my boyfriend do that? Like if men that don't even know me can do that, why would I set my standard below what men don't even know?

Laetitia>> I love this logic. Okay, so there's women out there who aren't prostitutes. Why, as a man, do I have to lower my standards to be with a woman who's a prostitute?

Laetitia>> You don't. Well, >> but your Okay, her argument is hold on. There are men who are financially well off who can pay for everything. I encounter them in the strip club. They're sing and spending all this

Laetitiamoney. Therefore, why can't a man who I'm dating do the same thing? Great. Why can't I just use that logic in for you guys? Well, hold on. There's all these

Laetitiabeautiful, welladjusted women who aren't in doing degenerate work, who aren't prostitutes, who aren't strippers, who aren't Only Fans girls, who aren't showing their butthole and [ __ ] and

SPEAKER_13everything to the internet. Why can't you be like them? >> Sure, I'm not speaking for everybody's like preference, but I'm just saying what me being a dancer has done to my

SPEAKER_13mentality and like how like what I want from a man. So, would you date one of those men who comes and sees you at the strip club? >> Well, they're kind of really old, but so

SPEAKER_13no, but I mean like >> No, just someone who provides. Like I do agree that men should pay on the first date. >> I feel like >> and women How about this? Wait, wait,

Laetitiawait. How about really quick and I'll let you come in. >> Okay. Men should pay on first dates. Should women not be sex workers?

LaetitiaWe can do anything we want. >> Men can do whatever we want. >> Sure. >> Men can do whatever we want. >> You guys can. >> No, but it's like, okay, you're going to

Laetitiahold men to a standard. And that standard corresponds to traditional gender roles. Traditional gender roles would dictate, uh, hey, don't be promiscuous, don't be a sex worker,

SPEAKER_13don't be a stripper, don't be doing all that [ __ ] So, okay, it's just kind of confusing. >> If he really loved me and he was a

SPEAKER_13traditional man, then he would want me to not work anymore and I would be a stay-at-home lovely girlfriend. >> A traditional Look, frankly, a true

Laetitiatraditional man would not date a woman who's a sex worker to begin with. Sure. But

Julia>> I mean there's some dudes who've got like a [ __ ] what's that term? Save a captain. >> They're they're on some of that [ __ ] But >> I feel like people are very fixated online about like stay-at-home

Juliagirlfriend. And it's interesting cuz I usually date girls and it's usually like whoever makes the most money. And like I get the mentality, but I think that people should be careful about like, you know, back in the 1950s there was like

Juliaother parts to being a stay-at-home wife. So like also look out for like the kind of guy who's like what kind of guy you're dating, if that makes sense. You know, like you need to also protect um

SPEAKER_13like your end of things if you're looking to go all the way back into that kind of dynamic. >> Yeah. I think also though like I wouldn't want them paying for like everything.

JennyObviously, I if I was making like enough, I would want to put my money towards them as well in a way. >> But didn't you say you would quit if and

Juliabe a stay at home girlfriend if you were dating someone? And it's really um it's also pretty dangerous to not have a work history if

Juliayou do want to have kids cuz then like what if like you know the person you're dating ends up like turning to be somebody you didn't think they were and you guys are married and then you haven't had a job in a really long time. So I think it's like food forthought

Maria (NC)type vibe. >> I don't agree with that. I think if you if you know that you want to have that dynamic of staying home, taking care of the kids, yes, you have to be very careful about who you choose because

Maria (NC)then you should be making a lifelong commitment. And obviously, yes, people can change, but my husband says all the time, and I've seen this to be true with friends. Um, men don't change even though women often want them to. So,

Maria (NC)what you see is usually what you get. >> Women change all the time, even if their husbands or boyfriends don't want them to. We're just I mean we're slaves to our emotions a lot of the time. You can't deny it. You get a period the week

Maria (NC)before your period, you're a raging [ __ ] That's how my husband's like, "Is it coming?" Um and so you've got to make that decision. And and

Maria (NC)it's dangerous to be like, "Well, you still need to have a way to provide in case things don't work out." Because if you have one foot out the door going into things, how much are you going to work to make it work when things get tough? That's a good point.

Jenny>> I don't think it's having one foot in and one foot out. It's just more or less having a standard for yourself and being like, I know if this were to go south, I can provide for myself. Not, oh, I have a door. Like, I have a foot out. I'm

Jennylike, if I really do need a way out, I can. It's more or less just for your own morals and your own values to be like, I know I'm a strong individual woman and I know that I can pay for things myself,

Brooklynbut I have a man. But wouldn't you be living like more of a comfortable lifestyle if you guys are both working and both making money and bringing it in?

Jenny>> I also agree with that. You guys can both be working.

Laetitia>> What about you? >> What do you want to know? >> Well, you do you do Only Fans, but you're you're like a country gal kind of. >> Mhm. >> What are your thoughts? Um,

Kaylee Chicowell, I personally have no preference in like what a man makes if if that is relevant to the conversation. Um, I think work ethic is a lot more attractive than income because they don't directly

Kaylee Chicocorrelate. And if a man works hard and he's a janitor, I think that's >> that's attractive to me.

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