HEATED DEBATE! She ONLY Dates FAT Men?! He CHEATED On Her With Her MOM?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk 286

Date: 2026-03-16
Duration: 8h 57m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Julia(guest)
SPEAKER_03Kaylee Chico(guest)
SPEAKER_04Lindsey(guest)
SPEAKER_05Jenny(guest)
SPEAKER_07Laetitia(guest)
SPEAKER_08Chris Love(guest)
SPEAKER_09Maria (NC)(guest)
SPEAKER_10Lexi (Chicago)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Veronica(guest)
SPEAKER_12Brooklyn(guest)
SPEAKER_14Bri Nightwood(guest)

Key Moments

00:00:11
IntroAll guests introduce themselves
04:00:00
ControversyVeronica cries and rage quits during weight rejection debate
04:04:20
ControversyLindsey rage quits/kicked off after confronting Brian
05:58:20
Key MomentMichaela drove 2.5 hours to date wheelchair man with warrants, chose him over green-flag guy
07:20:29
Key MomentLexi: 27yo boyfriend cheated on her with her biological mother when she was 17
07:30:00
Key MomentBri Nightwood: throuple with Satanist DJ with 12 dead exes and subliminal mind control
07:41:00
QuoteBri made $1M from dick ratings on OnlyFans (10,000+ ratings)

Topics Discussed

00:00:11
Guest Introductions + Findom

Lexi (findom $10K/mo), Chris Love (Playboy/stripper), Brooklyn, more.

04:00:00
Rage Quits

Veronica cries and rage quits during weight debate. Lindsey also rage quits/kicked off.

07:20:29
Lexi Ex Cheated With Her Mom

At 17, her 27yo boyfriend cheated with her biological mother at a hotel.

07:30:00
Bri Satanist DJ Throuple

Throuple with DJ who had subliminal mind control frequencies, altar for taking souls, 12 dead exes.

08:36:40
Trivia Failures

Chris Love can't name Canada. Valerie guesses 7 states in USA. Jenny thinks France capital is Italy.

Transcript

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03:52:50
Laetitia>> No. Like I'm impressed that you >> If you close your eyes, it almost feels like you're being touched by a woman. >> Does it? >> My hands are softer than I bet I have soft Well, that's >> not a flex, by the way. >> Do you use Do you lotion your hands
03:53:03
Juliaoften? >> No, I just naturally have soft hands. I bet I have softer hands than all y'all. >> You're not mean enough. I like >> soft like S O F capital T soft. >> Alexis definitely I think I might have a
03:53:17
Kaylee Chicochance with Alexis because I'm a bit chubby. After the show, do you want to have sex with me? >> I'm really tired and I would like to go to bed, but I think you're good-looking. You're cute. >> A >> Well, that doesn't answer the question, though. You know, >> if she wasn't tired, I can't keep my
03:53:30
Laetitiaeyes off. >> Well, let's say to uh fine. Okay. Tomorrow, do you want to have carnal knowledge? >> Oh, >> you're asking me to fornicate tomorrow? >> I'm asking you to have sexual intercourse. >> Can I go home and go to bed for the
03:53:42
Jennynight >> as like right now? >> Dude, I'm so tired. I know you don't believe. >> You need to take another energy shot, girl. >> This girl. >> Well, okay. That's >> It's like that one girl that fell asleep
03:53:55
Laetitiaand you had to give her the yellow card. >> Answer the question. Answer the question. >> I don't know you. >> Okay, whatever. What? Uh, well, >> could I steal you away from your talking stage?
03:54:05
Laetitia>> No. Okay. And then what? Uh, Alyssa. >> Um, no, thank you. >> I thought I thought it was really easy for guys to get laid. What's going on? >> Yeah. If you downloaded Tinder right now, you would have like 13 girls at
03:54:18
Laetitialeast in one day. >> Oh my god. It would take >> If I downloaded Tinder >> Yeah, Tinder. Where the hell? >> If I was really Hold on. If I downloaded Tinder, if I I definitely couldn't tonight.
03:54:31
Lexi (Chicago)>> Yes, you could. >> No, it's 9:00 p.m. You can't get >> Exactly. It's 9:00 p.m. This is when the hoes are out. No hoes are up at 10. >> It's a [ __ ] Sunday. You cannot get same night [ __ ]
03:54:42
Laetitia>> Yes, you can. >> It is. No, I could maybe if I [ __ ] tried to if I spent all night messaging, I could maybe arrange something like for
03:54:54
LaetitiaWednesday if I But I ain't getting [ __ ] You I don't think y'all understand. >> I need to do a vocal stim. I'm sorry. Circle, circle, circle, circle, square. Okay. >> What the [ __ ]
03:55:05
Julia>> It's when I'm stmming, I have vocal stims. Okay. >> As a lesbian, I would like to agree with you. >> What the [ __ ] Oh, as a because it's hard to >> No, because literally that's why for so long I would like try to date guys after
03:55:17
Juliaa girl would break up with me and I'd be really sad cuz like I could arrange something like this evening probably if I wanted to if I was in LA. >> You could look a woman 900 p.m. >> three of those already. >> Be quiet lady.
03:55:29
Laetitia>> Sorry you're hydrated. [ __ ] >> He's as a lesbian. I agree. So, as a woman, you could hop on a dating app on
03:55:36
Laetitiaa Tuesday at 1000 p.m. and you What's going on?
03:55:45
Laetitia>> Uh, okay. I mean, >> oh, she's in the bathroom. Well, let's let's see what the situation is. But >> she doing downers in there? No, I'm just kidding. >> So So, anyways, um
03:55:55
Laetitia>> Oh, uh I mean, where where was I? Wait, let me see if I have anything else that I
03:56:02
Laetitianeeded to hit on for her. Her name's Alex. One sec, guys.
03:56:12
LaetitiaUh, I mean, I had one thing left for her, but we'll see. What are you guys looking for? >> You don't have them?
03:56:26
Julia>> All right, we'll figure that [ __ ] out, I guess. But um where were we in the context? >> You were saying like even with the most like even with the most ran through cuz I'm like all of my friends are gay. Like the most ranthrough lesbian I know like
03:56:38
Juliayou could not arrange probably a same night like situation with like a girl and then with a guy it's like you could like probably like any of like you could it it'd be pretty easy.
03:56:49
Laetitia>> Yeah. I was I think I was saying that a woman could hop on a dating app 1000 p.m. on a Tuesday and she could probably have like a gang bang if she could [ __ ] like three dudes >> same night
03:57:02
Laetitia>> maybe even more. Like I'm not even exaggerating. Whereas like for a guy, even if you've got some game, you know how to maneuver like girls are not like down. They're not they're not ready to
03:57:14
Laetitiago like that. Like it's going to take a little bit. Like >> they're not ready for the [ __ ] go. Huh? >> They're not ready for the [ __ ] go. >> Well, I mean, look, some girls are down
03:57:23
Laetitiafor hookups, but that's like getting For a man, it's getting lucky. For a girl, >> it's too >> There's nothing about getting like women
03:57:33
Laetitiadon't get lucky. If you want to [ __ ] you [ __ ] right? Like, is it ever like right?
03:57:47
LaetitiaShe knows if a girl wants to [ __ ] >> she's [ __ ] >> She knows. She's getting like a girl can go into a date super confident like you
03:57:57
Lexi (Chicago)can go into the date thinking >> this guy's going to [ __ ] me. I can never if I'm going into a date, look, I could think she likes me. >> No. Yeah. I can walk into a bar and I can be like, "Those guys all want to
03:58:08
Lexi (Chicago)[ __ ] me." Like, I can kind of them. I know who it is. I know who wants to do it. I know who's checking it out. If you're meeting a chick off a dating app, she might not she might want to second third date.
03:58:20
Laetitia>> Uhhuh. >> I might not get it same day. >> So for for a guy, it's getting lucky. Uh I can never if I go on a first date with
03:58:31
Laetitiaa girl uh like from a in a more organic way. Like if a girl contact DMs me, then I can vet for that. But if I'm like I don't know, meeting a girl in person,
03:58:42
Laetitiahey, let me get your number. Let's grab dinner sometime. There's not a guarantee I'm getting [ __ ] that night. >> There's not a guarantee. >> Wait, what? Wait, the whatever podcast don't get you [ __ ] >> You're telling me they're not like, "Oh my god, the guy from the Whatever
03:58:56
Laetitiapodcast." >> So, I mean, look, my situation >> My situation is different. >> He's going to love my big Leia. Like, >> so my situation my situation is different because pretty much since I
03:59:08
Laetitiastarted the podcast, not to say that I haven't shot my shot. Uh, but I actually just source entirely from women who contact me. Oh, >> and if you're contacting me, I can set the pace a bit.
03:59:19
Laetitia>> Um, I can I'm going to vet you. You're you're coming into my frame. Whereas if the the general status quo when it comes to male female interaction is uh the man
03:59:31
Laetitiatends to fall a bit more into the woman's frame a little bit >> uh to in the sense that the woman gets to dictate the pacing a little bit more. Like for example, if a girl's like, "Brian, I think you're [ __ ] super
03:59:44
Laetitiahandsome and I like you and blah blah blah." I can be like, "Okay, here's my like 100point girlfriend application. You're going to answer everything. You're going to get on birth control before you meet me. You're going to do
03:59:55
LaetitiaXYZ before you meet me. You're And by the way, like I'm going to vet uh if you come and visit me. You're your I'm I wouldn't say it like this, but you're DTF, right? >> Would she stay up there? >> And then I can vet. Huh?
04:00:07
Jenny>> Would she stay up there? >> The [ __ ] Bro, you're your nonsequators are [ __ ] >> No, I want to know if you have like if she would be here during the podcast, like would you have her be here? >> No. My if I was dating a girl, if I had
04:00:19
Laetitiaa girlfriend, she'd never be on camera. >> Okay. I'm not. Anyways, that's [ __ ] Why do you Can you let me stay on track here? You You like to go in all these directions and I'd like to stay on the
04:00:32
Laetitiacentral point here. >> Uh so where was I? >> Um >> yeah. So like from >> from my experience uh and I I I prefer
04:00:42
Laetitiathat dynamic but that most men don't have that unless they you know they have some presence online. Um, so
04:00:53
Laetitiamy experience post starting the podcast is a bit different. Um, so I'm trying to remember how we even got there though. Uh, >> oh
04:01:06
Jenny>> yeah. >> Uh, and then also too, I was going to say when you like refer to like you being chunky and like how you used to be skinny. >> The [ __ ] does that have to do with anything? >> Because it was earlier when earlier when
04:01:17
Jennyyou were saying that. I was just going to say like when at what time period? How long ago was that? >> Why the [ __ ] does what does that have to do with anything? >> Because I was just because you were saying it earlier, so I was just going back to it.
04:01:30
Laetitia>> Is it? >> Never mind. >> What? Okay. What What the [ __ ] does that have to do with anything? >> I was asking you because when we were talking about >> I don't have an issue answering the
04:01:40
Jennyquestion. I don't see how it's relevant. Objection. Relevance. >> ADHD. Sorry, it's not. I I was just reverting back. >> How about this? Shut the [ __ ] up for 10 minutes.
04:01:51
Jenny>> God damn, bro. Holy [ __ ] It's completely irrelevant. >> Okay, I got it. >> Like, you've been doing it all night. >> Yeah, I have. >> And it's distracting. It gets us off topic.
04:02:04
Laetitia>> Shut up. Jesus [ __ ] Christ. >> It gets Well, like if you're going to contribute, like have it be something of substance that relate relates to the actual
04:02:16
Laetitia>> I get that. And I said, "Okay." I said, "I have ADHD and I won't do it again." >> All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Oh, man. Okay. So, I don't even know where I was. Uh,
04:02:32
Veronica>> you were talking about dating women and when you started the podcast, but I don't remember like how it's giving. actually my my explanation there of like okay well most of the women I've dated
04:02:44
Laetitiain the past 3 or four years since I started the podcast they all came to me so that doesn't map on great to like most men or the average men's experience
04:02:54
Laetitialuckily for me though given my age I have from the age of 17 all the way to 32 33 which is around the time I started
04:03:03
Laetitiathe podcast I have the typical average guy experience of you approach the girl, you slide into I don't think I slid into DMs, but I match with I was on dating
04:03:14
Laetitiaapps, Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, all that. And that framework is not uh although you can sometimes navigate, hey, just
04:03:24
Laetitiacome over, let's [ __ ] Uh generally speaking, uh that's not really you can do it, but you're typically, hey, let's meet up for a drink. Maybe it goes down the first night, maybe it doesn't.
04:03:36
Laetitiasecond, third date, and maybe it goes down. If then, uh, so this idea that men can be [ __ ] to the same degree as women, it's it's complete fallacy. It's
04:03:47
Lexi (Chicago)total fallacy. It doesn't exist. >> Yeah. I mean, I guess that's true cuz I mean, um, you know, if you wanted to get [ __ ] in one day. Yeah. I guess like that that time frame, women can be more
04:04:00
Bri Nightwood[ __ ] I guess >> I'd object that gay men have like an advantage compared to straight. >> I'm not talking. I'm not sayingexual women right now. >> I'm obviously not talking about homosexual men. I'm talking about
04:04:12
Laetitia>> That's fair. >> Yes. Gay men have it easier than heterosexual women, I would say. >> Cuz there's not that [ __ ] game going on. Yeah. Like >> Mhm. >> But that's not what we're talking about. >> Okay. Just
04:04:27
Laetitia>> Yeah. >> Yes. As a caveat, yeah, gay men can get laid. Um, I mean, I haven't, this is not something
04:04:35
LaetitiaI' I've investigated seriously, but um, from my understanding, yes, there's less
04:04:42
Laetitia[ __ ] and less pretense when it comes to uh, same-sex male relationships. With women, there's a lot of [ __ ]
04:04:54
Laetitiauh, uh, what's the right word? performance that there's a lot of song and dance that must be done with women whereas for
04:05:06
Juliamen they just want to [ __ ] >> So yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. I saw that at a party one time when I was younger before I was a mom. I
04:05:17
Juliawould go to like you know the afters in LA. Like I'd always end up in an afters and our friend he's like a lawyer and like objectively he's pretty hot I guess. Um, and he's like really wealthy and all these girls were like all over
04:05:28
Juliahim. It was the I've never seen it anywhere else but in that situation. It was crazy. That was like the only time I've ever seen like all these girls at this party were like trying to get his attention and he was I was like I've
04:05:39
Julianever seen that before. It was interesting. But he was also like you said, he's really wealthy. He's really attractive and I think he was the only guy at the party actually.
04:05:54
Julia>> Okay. Um uh >> so it is a thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Men can gate keep sex too. >> But only like in that specific scenario where like he's meeting all of these
04:06:05
Laetitiacriteria that is making him more desirable. >> Yeah. But ultimately I mean look if uh it's very easy for women to get laid, it's relatively hard for men to get
04:06:17
Laetitialaid. Now look, are there some studs who have a pretty easy go at it? Yes. But you, an average or below average woman has the same like an equivalent sexual
04:06:28
Laetitiaoptionality as a professional male athlete, a famous singer, famous musician, famous actor.
04:06:37
LaetitiaUh, you can be a nobody woman, below average looking, hop on Tinder, hop on a dating app, you could [ __ ] six guys in a day.
04:06:47
Laetitialike as a guy there's more effort that's put in like I said um for most men it could take a little bit of time even if you like you don't have to be
04:06:58
Laetitiaextraordinary you you can kind of maneuver as a guy but you might have to go on one two three dates maybe she's not down maybe she's not feeling it uh
04:07:08
Laetitiaso you can't get instant sex the same way women can get instant sex and I demonstrated it literally asked [ __ ] single women. They want to [ __ ] >> Yeah, but if I walk into like a party of
04:07:23
Laetitiaguys, >> I want blue eyes, dark hair, 6'1, uh toxic as [ __ ] to be fair, but uh and
04:07:33
Laetitiauh let's see. At least on the podcast, in person, I'm not toxic. Uh >> oh, you don't tell women to shut the [ __ ] up in person. >> I get it. >> Uh no, actually I I don't.
04:07:45
Laetitia>> Yeah. No, that was pretty [ __ ] rude. >> I think it's pretty [ __ ] rude that you've been interrupting all night with your >> I wasn't interrupting you. I was asking a question that we were referring to. >> You've been doing sidebar conversations.
04:07:56
Laetitia>> Name one sidebar I had cuz I haven't. >> Yeah, let me let me >> speaking to myself and stmming to myself is not talking to them. If I'm over here like >> literally I if I recall correctly, I
04:08:08
Laetitiadon't remember the exact thing you said. You definitely had a sidebar with either one of these girls at one point, but the the you're you're trying to do a loophole technicality. >> No, I didn't do a sidebar. What sidebar?
04:08:20
Laetitia>> Okay. So, even if you're Okay, so even if you're not whispering, if you're whispering because you have ADHD in practice, that's still the [ __ ] same thing.
04:08:31
Jenny>> No, when I'm over here like I'm not talking about me mouththing like I'm mouththing. I meanly me literally saying nothing like me doing that's me talking to myself. It's stmming so I don't vocally stem and ruin
04:08:44
Laetitiathe podcast instead of doing it >> aloud criticism. That's not even >> I know but you're saying I'm having sidebars but I'm not because if you were to see >> you did have sidebars >> when >> Oh my god. Do Do I need someone in the [ __ ] You did I don't rec you want me
04:08:57
Jennyto find the time stamp? I don't know the time stamp. The only time a couple times that I was here and I was talking to someone is when she passed by me and I was like, "Are you good?" when she didn't want to come. >> There was another instance. Well, you can pull it up cuz I didn't.
04:09:09
Laetitia>> It didn't occur to me to commit it to memory. Like if somebody asked me, Brian, uh, like you know those court reporters who what do they call the [ __ ] stenographers or whatever?
04:09:19
LaetitiaBrian, can you verbatim repeat back? when your rule is don't have side conversation. I haven't been sitting here talking to either of them.
04:09:29
Laetitia>> I can't verbatim because I can't verbatim read back every single word that has been uttered on this podcast. Nobody has and that's why I was
04:09:41
Jennygoing back to certain topics that you had. Yes, you talked about that topic and I went back to it because it was a sidetrack. Sorry, I got sidetracked. It's not a feeling. >> Get out of your feelings. I'm [ __ ] over it feeling. It's just [ __ ] >> I said what I said.
04:09:54
Jenny>> Yeah, I know. And I said what I said. Now shut the [ __ ] up and let's continue the podcast. >> Yeah. Don't be Look, don't be all [ __ ] uh >> I'm not. But when you tell me to shut the [ __ ] up >> because it's been constant with you. >> You said that I interrupted and then I
04:10:09
Laetitiawent to >> You did it all night. You did it all night. Yeah. >> I won't speak unless spoken now. >> I'm actually okay with that. >> Yeah. Okay, cool. >> I'm okay with that. Thank you. That's nice that you would offer that. I
04:10:21
SPEAKER_00appreciate that. All right, we have a chat here. Uh, >> not my ROM gains donated $200. Hey, cutie in the pink C5. I know you
04:10:33
SPEAKER_00said girls only, but how about a fem boy? I have a 200 Honda Civic we can live out of and eat ramen and ice cream every night. BB, >> what? >> That's really beautiful.
04:10:45
Lexi (Chicago)>> 2004 Honda Civic we can live out of and eat ramen and ice cream every night. >> Yes. Yes. He said, "Would you date a fanboy >> that lives in a car and eats ramen every day?" >> That's beautiful. Like, I feel like
04:10:56
Laetitiathey'll find somebody great for them. >> Are you coming back or what's going on?
04:11:06
Laetitia>> Oh, one qu wait one question and then how about that you uh leave? Okay. >> Yes. >> It's just one thing I saw in your questionnaire. Uh,
04:11:19
Laetitiaand then I guess yeah, she can't stay awake. You should just [ __ ] pass out on the podcast. That would be cool. Just start snoring and [ __ ] All right, so Alexis, >> yes. >> You agree with the following statements.
04:11:30
LaetitiaMen should pay on first dates. Men should provide and protect. Husband should be willing to die protecting you. You will keep your last name or hyphen in marriage. >> Yes.
04:11:42
Laetitia>> Yes. Scoot into the table. speak into the mic, please. >> Yes. >> Uh, okay. Why don't What about your kids? Will they hyphenate or have your last name?
04:11:54
Laetitia>> Um, I'd assume they'd probably take their dad's. >> Why don't you want to take the husband's last name? You do want to get married, right? >> I have a cool last name. I don't want to change it.
04:12:05
Laetitia>> Isn't it kind of Well, okay. So, you said men should pay for dates should provide, protect. But the big one, husband should be willing to die protecting you. So,
04:12:17
Laetitia>> it's kind of cool to stay alive. >> Well, I wouldn't want my partner to die. Of course, >> right. But he You say your husband should be willing to die protecting you. Take the bullet.
04:12:30
Laetitia>> I would hope he would want to over having his wife take it. Yeah. >> Right. So, in the hypothetical situation where one of you has to take a bullet, he takes it, right? So that you can survive >> I guess. Yeah.
04:12:41
Laetitia>> Okay. So the ult that would be the ultimate manifestation of a being a pro a protector traditional gender roles. >> He a man this this is guys this is what
04:12:51
Laetitiayou're dealing with in 2026. Uh you have a woman who uh I look I guess to your credit you're willing to date like a fat dude so he like can physically like take
04:13:01
Laetitiaup more space and block the bullet or whatever but uh like 500 lb or whatever. Like, yeah, he's got a [ __ ] meat shield. >> Kind of almost literally, I guess. Not literally, sort of liber. I don't know.
04:13:14
LaetitiaFiguratively. 2026 blasted in tattoos. Only fans girl, sex worker. Uh, you got to pay for first dates. You got to provide protect. Uh,
04:13:25
Kaylee Chicoyou got to be willing to die for her, but she won't take your last name. Well, I mean, I don't think the last name is very important, but I'm a good partner, >> but
04:13:36
Kaylee Chico>> I paid for everything. With my ex, I paid for every single thing ever. I paid our bills. It's just I think it's just common courtesy and nice to offer to pay for a first date. >> But you do say men should pay on first dates and then men should provide
04:13:49
Laetitiaprotect. So, conceivably, you wouldn't be opposed to dating a guy who like made a million dollars a year and was like, "Hey, you can stop doing Only Fans. I'm going to take care of everything." Right? >> I mean, that would be fine. And I just don't really care what a man makes. He
04:14:01
Laetitia>> Right. I understand that you don't care because you make good money yourself, >> but ultimately my big gripe here is um you still do want those things. You want >> protection for a man. Yeah. Cuz that's masculine. I like manly men,
04:14:14
Laetitia>> right? But so if we're talking about traditional gender roles, provide, protect, pay for dates, should be willing to die protecting you. Seems like you want him to make a potentially
04:14:24
Laetitiabig, not just a big, the biggest sacrifice one could make, but you won't make of >> what sacrifice won't I make? What do you think? >> Taking his last name. It's literally 3 hours on a Tuesday and everything has
04:14:39
Kaylee Chicochanged. >> I mean, sure. It's just not a big deal. I just have a cool last name. >> No, but >> that's it. >> Would you do it? >> Sure. It's just not really a big deal. Well, cuz I prefer not to, but it's just not a huge deal. >> Okay, you would do it then. And I've never met a man that cares if you take
04:14:53
Laetitiahis last name. Maybe. >> Well, that's because men have been completely henpacked and they're not allowed to want anything. >> I think men can want whatever they want,
04:15:02
Laetitia>> right? But there's massive there's massive uh social movement. >> Yeah. And there shouldn't be. Men can want, you know, whatever they want. I'm against that. I think men can have whatever preference they desire,
04:15:14
Laetitia>> right? There's like massive influence and propaganda pushing men away from >> uh there there's pathizing of men's standards and preferences. Yep.
04:15:24
Laetitia>> Uh a man wants a submissive woman. Predatory weird creepy woman wants dominant man. >> Oh. Uh preference.
04:15:34
Laetitia>> Woman wants tall guy. Preference. Man wants skinny woman. Uh insec. Uh superficial. Shallow. Uh, man wants a
04:15:44
Kaylee Chicowoman to cook and clean, misogyny, blah blah blah, sexist, blah blah blah. >> Yeah, you're correct. But I disagree with all of it. I think it's okay for men to have those preferences. Totally fine. >> Okay. All right. Well, I mean, that's
04:15:57
Laetitia>> But you're right. That is that's the extent of my >> Okay. >> inquiry. Uh, >> beautiful >> on that. >> Okay. Tata. >> Thank you, guys.
04:16:10
LaetitiaThat's my other go-to. Toodles. All right. >> I'm going to do some musical chairs here. >> Can I speak so I can say bye to her? Bye. >> I hope you guys >> All right, let me move. I'm going to
04:16:23
Laetitia>> I feel like I'm on shade room. >> Uh, I'm going to move. >> I think you two could actually scoot down two chairs. And I guess Alys, you can stay there. You two just scoot. >> What's that?
04:16:34
Laetitia>> I said I want to stay here. >> I mean, if you move me, you move me. But >> no, you're good. >> Uh, okay. Back to the topics. Uh, please address the door, please. If you can
04:16:46
Laetitiasend Tiffany. >> Uh, okay. I don't understand. Why [ __ ] fly here from Where did she say she was from? [ __ ] Michigan. >> We're like from the same spot. That was
04:16:59
Laetitiareally rude. >> I don't know. It's like why [ __ ] >> I get it. You're really tired. Like I'm tired, too, but I'm going to stay. >> Suck it up. I mean, >> sleep before >> it suck.
04:17:10
Jenny>> I literally slept like 13 hours before I got here, okay? Cuz I knew I was going to have to drive for 4 hours. So, >> I had to drive up to Santa Barbara cuz my flight got in and then my flight to Santa Barbara got cancelled. So, I had
04:17:22
Juliato Uber up here. >> I didn't sleep at all. >> Well, I slept for like two hours and then I got a breakup text and I was like, "Dang, do I have work in four hours?"
04:17:30
Laetitia>> Um, okay. Uh, I guess we'll I'm trying to remember what we had to uh what we
04:17:37
Laetitiahad to like get through. Um, where the Wait, okay, we were talking about the
04:17:47
Laetitia[ __ ] thing and it's easier for women to get laid. Yeah. I mean, also, um, I don't know if anyone in the chat, you
04:17:56
Laetitiaguys probably haven't seen this, but >> what's going What's going on back there? >> No, just tell me what's going on. What? >> Hello?
04:18:13
Laetitia>> Are you [ __ ] serious, Tiffany? Why? God, bro. If you're talking, it should there
04:18:22
Laetitiashouldn't be any talking back there, but you can't be [ __ ] having friend convo. Okay. Oh my god, bro.
04:18:34
Lexi (Chicago)Um, all right. >> Going to give this producer a stroke. He's like, sidebar, sidebar, >> dragging him out. Yeah, there's an expectation that my own
04:18:46
Lexi (Chicago)team is quiet. Um, >> he's having nightmares and he's rolling around like sidebar. >> Sidebar.
04:18:56
Julia>> Okay. Um, I don't know where we were then. >> You're talking about being a [ __ ] or something, >> but it's easier for girls to be a [ __ ] And you have It's not equal. like the
04:19:09
Laetitiait's not equal because you have to be like way above average. >> Uh yeah, I mean I actually did this as in experiment. Um so I had I sent out a
04:19:19
Laetitiagirl hidden camera just approached men in the street point blank asked them for sex and then I did the same experiment and then I even repeated it with like a
04:19:29
Laetitiadifferent guy. Um and women just it's a no. It's a no. they don't go for it. Whereas you can send out a girl.
04:19:41
LaetitiaSo you can It's insane. Yeah. Guys will just [ __ ] I mean I'm not surprised. I knew going in that's how it was going to be. But uh
04:19:51
Laetitiayeah. So uh I'm cur I'm trying to remember what led to the to that convo though like the getting laid thing.
04:20:05
Lexi (Chicago)No. Does anyone know? >> No, I have no clue. All I know is that we were talking about like a level of attractiveness and stuff like that. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I think you asked like if it was you asked like do you agree that it's easier
04:20:16
Laetitiafor girls to be [ __ ] and then you asked that like point blank and that's how it started. >> I think I it was Bri. you were asking about body count >> and then
04:20:28
LaetitiaI'm trying to remember the exact conversational thread that left that led to that um but that one girl had an issue
04:20:38
Laetitia>> like uh how men or something about like men having a high body count for free virgin >> Yeah. Yeah. So it's like okay. Yeah. Yeah. So I think the the origination was
04:20:49
Laetitia>> uh you took an issue with one of the things here which was a okay for a high body count man to prefer to date a low body count or virgin woman. And we were getting into it and we're talking about
04:21:01
Laetitiathe differences uh in terms of assessment there. And I was I think I was saying how uh it's it's uh
04:21:12
Laetitiait's okay for women to want to date a guy with a low body count, but you could have a high body count. But I I said typically women don't care about tend to care about body count all that much. >> Yeah. >> Generally speaking,
04:21:26
Bri Nightwood>> just as long as there's not like a double standard, then I don't really care. Like if you were to say that, you know, a woman with a body count or like a high body count can't prefer a man with a small body count.
04:21:37
Laetitia>> Yeah. She can't. Yeah. Yeah. I'm totally fine with that. Um so there's not a hypocrisy there. But what I'm saying it's more so if let's say the guy slept with 100 women and he's made a
04:21:48
Laetitiadetermination. Well, the women that I find most attractive have lower body counts. I don't actually see anything
04:21:55
Laetitiawrong with him preferring to date a woman with a low body count. Um, so >> I mean like I'm not going to knock someone for the preference, but I'm just
04:22:07
Bri Nightwoodsaying it's a little hypocritical. >> I don't know if or not hypocritical or it's just >> I don't know. I just think it makes more sense to want someone that has your like similar range of experience. At least for me. For me.
04:22:20
Laetitia>> No, not really. >> Oh, well, for you, for a woman, >> that's something different. Um, I think for a woman that could be the case because let's say you're a woman and
04:22:30
Laetitiawhen it comes to the bedroom, >> you want the flow of sex to be a more I don't know if tradition a more
04:22:39
Laetitiamanleading dynamic. Uh women typically like if I'm say I was having sex with a woman who had really low sexual
04:22:48
Laetitiaexperience. Maybe she's not a virgin but she like has had sex three times. Um she might look to me to guide her. I guess you
04:23:00
Laetitiacould say women don't want to teach a guy how to [ __ ] Women don't want to teach. Now you can give a guy this is what I like. But a woman doesn't want to
04:23:10
Bri Nightwoodbe there in the moment like having to instruct you. No, that's my butthole. My [ __ ] is like way up there. >> Same could be said for the other gender though, like men. Like for example, my
04:23:23
Bri Nightwoodboyfriend, he said he actually said my body count's kind of low for his preference. >> Yeah. I feel like usually the more >> Wait one sec. >> Your current boyfriend?
04:23:35
Bri Nightwood>> Yes. And your body count, you said it was like 10, 20, >> 28. >> Your boyfriend said your body count is too low. >> Yeah, cuz it's like 70.
04:23:48
Laetitia>> How do you keep track of that? >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. But so look, you have to understand the entailment of that. So what he Let me translate.
04:23:57
LaetitiaWhen your boyfriend says that he wishes your body count was higher, he's saying, "I wish you came more prefucked."
04:24:08
LaetitiaHe wants you to have had more dicks in you. And that's kind of gay. >> Well, he's bisexual, so >> Oh, that all works out.
04:24:19
Laetitia>> [ __ ] explains it a bit. But the It's weird like the entailment of Okay. So it's like if the criticism is, "Oh, you want a low body count woman?" Well,
04:24:29
Laetitiawhat's the opposite of that? So if it's like the the anti- low body counts argument is, uh, she should have a higher body count.
04:24:40
LaetitiaSo, and if a guy is making that argument, it's like, wait, so you, it seems like the position is less tenable in the sense that it's way less tenable to be like, I wish
04:24:51
Laetitiamy girlfriend [ __ ] more men before me, versus me thinking, I wish she [ __ ] less guys before me. >> I don't think he thinks about it like that. I think it has to do more with
04:25:01
Bri Nightwoodexperience. Like you said, um, how you wouldn't want or a girl wouldn't want to teach a man how to have sex. I think has to do with he wants me to have like to keep up about his pace. That's all.
04:25:12
Laetitia>> Well, okay. How about this? I think that a woman who's [ __ ] 30 guys one time is going to be arguably worse in bed than a girl who's had a one boyfriend and they've [ __ ] 300 times.
04:25:26
Laetitia>> I agree. >> So, like if we're talking about sexual experience here, you can become really good in bed with just one partner. Now, there's a different
04:25:35
Bri Nightwood>> I mean, well, sorry. Well, more like one person. Well, the thing is more people that's like they can teach you more things in a way because if let's just say there's two people and they both only have one body, they only know the experience with each other. You know
04:25:50
Laetitiawhat I mean? >> Yeah. Sure. So, yes. If if you've had different input from different men and this guy taught you this and this guy,
04:25:59
Laetitiayou know, taught you this and blah blah blah blah. Uh, yes. But uh also it's really easy for women to be good in bed. Like also
04:26:13
Laetitiaif you're a guy and you're dealing with an inexperienced woman or even a virgin and you know what you're doing. So if the dynamic is going to be you're going to lead her, you as a guy, if you're
04:26:23
Bri Nightwoodleading, you can have amazing sex with a virgin if you're leading. I don't know. Every guy's different. Like my boyfriend, he said he could tell
04:26:35
Bri Nightwoodthe difference between like a girl that has like a hundred bodies and a virgin. Like virgins are like a turnoff to him. >> Well, there there would perhaps be some differences, but I mean like sex to begin with, I don't think is a
04:26:47
Laetitiaparticularly complicated procedure. Uh but then also if you're leading as the guy, like if you're taking charge, you can show and demonstrate
04:26:59
Laetitiawhat the woman should do. I mean, it's really I don't know. Maybe like the only thing that could be is like head. Like I feel like it's hard to impart like Also,
04:27:13
LaetitiaI think there's just natural talent there. Some women they got it or they don't, you know? Like she you could give her [ __ ] instructional videos and tell her exact I like also how do you articulate as a man
04:27:25
Laetitia>> like what you know when it come there's certain things like okay don't use your [ __ ] teeth uh you know don't do certain things but I feel like there's just
04:27:36
Bri Nightwoodtalent when it comes to oral sex >> that's why men are gay cuz I don't know >> I don't know but >> that's what I've heard >> my gay friends >> but like actual penetrative sex.
04:27:49
Bri NightwoodIt's if you know what you're doing as a guy, you can Okay, do this. Come here. Move. >> Maybe like riding though. That is
04:28:00
Laetitiaanother thing to where I feel like >> even girl on top. I'm just >> I mean, it's just okay. Uh scoot your knees here. Uh kiss my neck here. I
04:28:11
Laetitiamean, also I don't like the girl. I like to do the work on bottom to be honest. >> So, what the [ __ ] are you What are you guys doing? Um >> I don't know. They're gooning over here
04:28:22
Laetitiaor something. >> But uh like doggy style, you just as long as she isn't doing this.
04:28:34
LaetitiaAs long as she's not, you know, she >> voice her back. Like give her back. Give her back as an art >> like Yeah. Hold on. I might have a tweet
04:28:45
Laetitiaabout this. Let me see if I can find it. >> I'm going to send it to the private chat most likely. Oh, [ __ ] I'm not going to be able to find it. Yeah, I'm not going to be able to find it. Uh,
04:28:57
Jenny>> you got a [ __ ] chest down on the bed arch. That's it. >> There's also like an energy like I don't know. >> Yeah, your back could hurt like if you're doing it right. Like your tailbone, like right where your tailbone is, it starts to hurt.
04:29:12
Jenny>> Um, >> you do it for like an hour. >> Well, I mean, no, like I like I just like I have Maybe it's just cuz I have a bad tailbone. >> Somebody was saying something over here or >> energy. >> Oh, the energy.
04:29:25
Bri Nightwood>> Yeah. I don't know. I feel like >> a girl. >> Oh, a girl that has more experiences or just like [ __ ] women, I don't know. they have they'll put more enthusiasm into it while a virgin they're probably like shy, nervous, they don't really
04:29:38
Laetitiaknow what's going on. >> Yeah, that I mean that's fair. Um but uh there there could be a a
04:29:48
Laetitiacomfortability threshold where there's a bit of apprehension uh for someone who's a bit inexperienced. Although I I mean that could even be to
04:29:59
Laetitiasome degree psychologically stimulating for some men. It's like like it's the girl who's like, "Oh, I never do this." And she gives you the
04:30:08
Laetitiagluck 9,000. It's like, "Okay, >> that's a sus." >> Yeah, I never do this. And then she [ __ ] >> They could practice on a dildo for all you know.
04:30:20
Laetitia>> I Okay, loophole technicality, I guess. But >> I don't know. It's very easy. Uh, I don't know. For a woman to be bad in bed, you have to like go out of your way to be bad in bed. >> Yeah.
04:30:33
Laetitia>> Biting it intentionally. >> And look, there there's just a >> uh Yeah, you'd have to do some crazy [ __ ] to be bad in bed. Look, if if the guy knows how to lead and he can take
04:30:46
Laetitiainitiative and he can take leadership in the bedroom, uh it's you can have great
04:30:52
Laetitiasex and the woman is just being submissive and like I don't know. Um also, I think there's just a
04:31:02
Laetitiaphysiological difference. Like for example, right? Uh, let's say I think this would be the case for the majority of men. Let's say the girl just
04:31:13
Laetitiaputs her herself perfect like in doggy style and the man is doing the penetrating, the hip thrusting. 99% of men can probably bring themselves
04:31:24
Laetitiato climax and the girl's not moving at all. She's just completely stationary. Not saying that that should be the case, but let's just hypothetically the woman is just completely stationary and the
04:31:35
Laetitiaguy is doing the work. 99% of men can bring themselves to climax. Now, you as the woman, you put the man in whichever position you prefer, whether that's him laying down, you on
04:31:47
Laetitiatop doggy style, and you're throwing it back, whatever. Can as high a percentage of women bring themselves to climax if the guy is just standing or laying there with a stiffy
04:31:59
Laetitia>> with a stiffy? Like it's hard, >> but he's doing nothing. No thrusting, but he's hard. And you can ride or you can >> if I'm riding. Yeah. >> Okay. I'm not I'm Yes, someone can do
04:32:11
Laetitiathat. But I'd say the percentage of women is way lower who can bring themselves to climax without >> Yeah. even even with um like moving like it it's kind of rare, you know, like even like the first time that you have
04:32:23
Lexi (Chicago)sex with a man, like the likelihood of a woman actually like coming to orgasm, the first time you have sex with a man, it's very low >> cuz you're just not comfortable with >> Yeah, I was going to say like a guy with
04:32:33
Laetitialike a guy can have a really like big dick, but like if he's not using it right, it's going to be really hard for us to come. I'm saying so >> in the scenario the scenario is >> he's he's hard he's erect it's whatever
04:32:47
Laetitiaposition you prefer >> and he's just stationary can most women through thrusting their hips or throwing it back whatever can
04:32:56
Laetitiathey bring themselves to climax some can some can but I would argue far fewer can so physiologically uh there's a higher burn of performance on men than
04:33:08
Laetitiathere is on women. >> So like we can as men, >> you can basically be a pillow princess, we can still come. We can still climax. >> Exactly. Like every time a man has sex,
04:33:20
Lexi (Chicago)almost 99% of the time that a man has sex, they come every time. Almost. >> Most of the time. >> Yeah. Most of the time. >> 90 Yeah. >> Yeah. 99% of the time.
04:33:31
Laetitia>> So there's like it's for a man to be good in bed, there's a higher threshold physiologically. It's just there's a difference between men and women. Uh so
04:33:42
Lexi (Chicago)you can take a virgin, put her in doggy style. No, don't do this. Don't [ __ ] have your back be all rounded. >> Even so, a guy will still come. >> A lot of guys will.
04:33:54
Lexi (Chicago)>> They will come. Even if you have a paper bag on your head, they will still come. Okay? Like, you know, even if they had a blindfold on, they would still come. >> Like men are dirty. Okay? I'm sorry. So
04:34:07
Julia>> men be awful. >> So yeah, I mean >> they're so easy. Those little [ __ ] >> Mhm. And the >> as >> And the mask lesbians are awful.
04:34:18
Laetitia>> As um as far as like a high body count man preferring to date low body count woman. Um I just think again don't have a double standard. The woman can want to
04:34:29
Laetitiadate a virgin man. I just find that most women who have sexual experience, it's not their preference to date low experience or virgin men. Whereas like
04:34:39
Laetitiait could actually even be the case that as a guy gets more experience, he wants a woman with less experience for and I'm talking maybe more so from a
04:34:49
Laetitiarelationship perspective. Like I don't know. I think women the more dick they have the more baggage, >> the more trauma. I mean, I guess so.
04:35:01
Lexi (Chicago)Like the first time that I ever had sex, like the guy told me that I was not good at giving head and I was like so embarrassed. I was like looking up videos. I was like, I'll give head. >> Not the reason. I saw >> Yeah. Look, head is different. Head is different. But if we're talking about
04:35:15
Lexi (Chicago)just intercourse >> Yeah. >> And like But we were both virgins at the time. So at the time, like while we were both virgins, he like wanted me to have more experience and I wanted him to have less experience. I was like, "Yeah, I don't want you to even talk to a girl.
04:35:28
JuliaLike the fact that you've even dated another girl pisses me off. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. Does anyone else want to weigh in on that? >> I also want a low body count woman for my next >> W. Good for you.
04:35:40
Julia>> No. I was dating someone one time that said they had a body count of 300. I was like, "How is that possible?" I don't know if they were exaggerating. It was like a Caucasian mask. But >> is it okay if I take another energy shot?
04:35:53
Laetitia>> Those are like 200. >> I just want to make sure I'm not going to like die or anything. I've never had them before. >> Wouldn't that make you more likely to die? >> Okay. So, I can >> I need to I need to get up for a moment. If you guys want to discuss a topic of
04:36:06
Laetitiayour choosing, I'm sure >> I'm not choosing. He yelled at me last time. >> We have some conservative women here. Maybe you guys want to discuss some >> What should we debate about, guys?
04:36:16
Julia>> Conservative. >> Well, not conservative topics, but >> what's the highest body count you guys would date? Um,
04:36:28
Lexi (Chicago)wow. So, >> I don't really care about a man's body count. I don't know. >> I don't go out of my way to ask. I don't even ask them. I don't want to. >> I don't want If I know that hurts my feelings hurts my feelings. >> Yeah. Exactly. Like that disgust me. I
04:36:41
Veronicadon't want to think about it. >> Like how you got mad when just the fact that your boyfriend dated another girl. I used to be like that, too. >> Exactly. >> I feel like I grew out of it because you I don't know. You come to like real like
04:36:52
Lexi (Chicago)you know that's not reality. Like I don't believe in checking phones. Like if you still check that man's phone, you're asking >> if you're looking for something, you're going to find something. >> Exactly. I feel you already have the inkling. Maybe you guys shouldn't be together.
04:37:05
Lexi (Chicago)>> Exactly. I feel like when you get to our age, it's like if you feel that, you know that they're like not a good partner. >> Exactly. Like so that's why I feel like having like a relationship where you know that you're loved is more important than like you know the size of their dick.
04:37:18
Bri Nightwood>> Yeah, definitely. >> Strap. >> What about your question? Um, as long as they're like, you know, clean getting tested and like, you know, like they're assuming like if you are like
04:37:29
Bri Nightwoodmonogamous, as long as they're not, >> you know, having sex with people and well, you're dating like >> they're not cheating on you. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah. Then I mean it doesn't matter too much. >> Have you guys heard of Canada's dating
04:37:42
Veronicacoach? >> No. >> She goes live. Her name's Chantel. She goes live and it's just this big thing above her and it says body count doesn't
04:37:52
Veronicamatter and she goes on a factual no feeling scientific debates only. And so you're not allowed to start any sentence
04:38:00
Veronicaof like I I feel I think or you know anything like that. and her um I guess like the whole idea of it is
04:38:11
Veronicathat body count doesn't matter as long as you are like a high valued person and uh you know you you're honest and you respect yourself and do you have a good
04:38:22
Veronicaworth work ethic and all that cuz her um I guess her like idea of it is like somebody who has only been with one person can be lazy a liar and all those
04:38:34
Veronicathings so that's just Yeah, she's body count really doesn't matter. But she also says, you know, you need to be getting tested and show the paper to them from the doctor that you've been tested.
04:38:47
Maria (NC)>> But I'm pretty sure there are studies out there that show for women once your body count passes five, your ability to pair bond and the likelihood of you leaving your partner significantly
04:38:57
Maria (NC)increases, especially with marriage. And so I know divorce statistics are super high. And if both people in the marriage go into it as virgins, they like have the highest chance of um staying
04:39:10
Maria (NC)together. >> Um but it depends mostly on the woman. Does the woman have a low body count? Is her ability to pair bond and with that
04:39:20
Maria (NC)then stick through things not impacted as bad? I mean, I think that you can decide cuz you have a high body pound and you decide to get married, you can decide that you're going to stick with that person. Um, but I think
04:39:32
Juliabiologically something has been messed up and you're going to be fighting really hard. Um, >> yeah. Like you feel like you have too many options. It's like the options. >> You know too much. >> Yeah. You know too much and you feel like you can just find another person
04:39:45
Maria (NC)because you've had so much experience rather than trying to like work it out. >> I think there is something to ignorance is bliss. And and like I don't want that to sound like innocent and I know that
04:39:54
Maria (NC)I'm like coming from the perspective of I was a virgin when I got married, but I saw all my friends going from guy to guy and um you know some of them getting
04:40:06
Maria (NC)pregnant outside of marriage. And I you know I'm not judging anyone who does that. That's just not the choices that I've made. Um, and I I can see where
04:40:18
Maria (NC)people struggle more because they went into their serious relationship without setting themselves up for the best that they could. >> Um, and I mean, my husband, I mean, it
04:40:29
Maria (NC)wouldn't have been expected for him to have been a virgin at 39 when I met him. And he he was actually divorced. Um, but his wife left him. Um, and so he I mean also fit into that statistic of it's
04:40:41
Maria (NC)usually the woman who leaves and so if she already has a super high body count going into it, I think that can definitely have an impact. >> What about you? >> What's the question? >> Question was like, do you think like um
04:40:55
Brooklynwhat's the highest body count you would date? Do you think it matters? >> I don't really I guess like a hundred. >> 100? >> Yeah. Yeah, if he's had sex with more
04:41:06
Juliathan 100 people, then I'm like, it's a it's a little bit high in my opinion. That's just my preference. >> 100's really Does anybody else feel like 100's high? >> I feel like 100's high. I would cry.
04:41:18
Julia>> You'd be fine with like 90 though. >> Oh my gosh. >> High. >> I think it's all relative then. >> As soon as it hits like triple digits, I'd be like, >> triple digits was crazy. I was like, you've had sex with 300 people. It's a
04:41:31
Maria (NC)lot. >> 300 people. So along that line, who who all here wants to eventually get married or are you just looking for a long-term relationship? >> Yeah. Like I want to get married.
04:41:44
Brooklyn>> It'd be nice. >> Yeah. >> Like I don't care if I'm like legally married. As long as I have like a little ceremony, I'm fine. >> I honestly don't know if I want to get married or or not. I don't know
04:41:56
Veronica>> cuz you're divorced, right? >> Yeah. But I was still like a kid when I got like I was 18 when I got married. So it was just >> I didn't have any like guidance when I
04:42:08
Veronica>> freshly turned an adult. So I just >> didn't make a lot of like great decisions, but I realized early on that it wasn't what I wanted. It wasn't going to be what I wanted like you know for
04:42:21
Laetitiathe long term. >> I feel that. Uh, I need to uh get back up, but then we're going to jump into uh some uh pretty juicy topics. But while I'm
04:42:33
Laetitiagone, I feel the need to even guide things uh as I'm away from the table. Nicole, you think that
04:42:46
Laetitiauh you don't think women should be drafted? You would rather repeal the 19th amendment. Now, question though. >> Yeah. Do you want to repeal the 19 19th amendment? Period.
04:42:59
Maria (NC)>> I wouldn't have a problem with it. I think that um most women at the time didn't want the right to vote. It was men who pushed that. Um with just a few key women um
04:43:10
Maria (NC)>> kind of lead like leading the female voices, but they weren't actually the female voices of the time. Um women were able to get laws passed without the right to vote before that like prohibition. That was a movement that
04:43:23
Laetitiawas pushed strictly by women and they didn't have the right to vote. >> Now, what I'm going to do is, and I hope you guys without the the guiding hand of a man at the table, I'm going to be gone
04:43:35
Laetitiafor about 5 to 10 minutes. I want you guys to engage in that conversation. So, when she's talking about repealing the 19th, for those of you who don't
04:43:45
Laetitiaknow, she wants to claw back women's right to vote. That's the 19th amendment. I'm assuming some of you here are in favor of women being able to
04:43:56
Laetitiavote. So, with that said, let's hear the people who disagree with her. Go ahead.
04:44:06
SPEAKER_13I think like women, we're more so like empathetic more than men. And I think we're more like intuitional and we kind
04:44:16
SPEAKER_13of just go based off like our heart more. And so I think we need a lot of like like empathy like in the world right now. Like I feel like there's a
04:44:28
SPEAKER_13lot of like really horrible [ __ ] going on in the [ __ ] world right now. And it's like it's all being done by like men and like
04:44:39
SPEAKER_13I just like think the world is very heartless right now and women should, you know, have the right to vote. >> Go ahead. >> Oh, no, you can go.
04:44:53
Jenny>> Are you done? >> Uh, I was just going to say that I mean I think women should be able to have the right to vote. Um, I mean we're here living it and we're here every day. that we wake up every single day. So, we should have the same right to be able to
04:45:04
Lexi (Chicago)vote for the place that we're living in. >> So, should women be drafted then to make it equal? >> No. >> Well, also I agree with what you're saying. I don't think that like if women didn't even want the choice to vote like
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Lexi (Chicago)we should respect women, right? Okay, then. So, we didn't even want that choice. So, we should respect that. Hello. I'm just kidding. Wait, are you saying that? >> Actually, like um like if we like if we didn't have the right to vote, a lot of
04:45:29
Lexi (Chicago)people in general, like just like the general population, a lot of people don't vote. So if like if all of our votes were taken away, like I don't think it would really impact much because a lot of people in general don't
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Maria (NC)vote. >> So you I see what you mean. So you so you're saying because so it should >> and then we would also be able to like hold men more accountable for you know >> I mean if you want to be able to put
04:45:53
Maria (NC)yeah the um the blame so to speak on men then yeah give them the only >> literal written voice but I mean women have a power with men and that's why
04:46:05
Maria (NC)they were able to get laws passed before they had the right to vote because they weren't a voting box that could be bought by the government by men. So they had to convince their husbands, they had
04:46:17
Maria (NC)to convince Congress that things should be done and um no one could sway them. And I I actually think the kind of the empathy thing I I get what you're saying
04:46:26
Maria (NC)like looking at the world things do look really dark at times. Um but I don't I don't think that's a good argument for women having a right to vote because when you make your decisions purely on
04:46:37
Maria (NC)emotion, you're not looking at the bigger picture. And I think that's a benefit with men is they're able to kind of separate emotions from the issue and be a bit more black and white. Like, how
04:46:49
Maria (NC)is this going to impact my taxes? Oh, it feels good that we're giving extra welfare to women, but where's the bottom line? You know, oh, it feels good that
04:46:59
Maria (NC)my property taxes are going to X, Y, and Z. So, yeah, I'll I guess agree to a slight raise because it's not that big of a deal. No, like they look at the numbers. My husband is always like
04:47:10
Maria (NC)pinching all of the numbers when it comes to any law that's being presented um that we can vote on and I'm just like okay I'll just vote the way you want. Um so I mean like in that instance there's
04:47:22
Maria (NC)a double but then there's a lot of households that get divided over it. Um and so they're just canceling each other out. I think that women can have an influence over the men in their lives and still have a voice that way. Um but
04:47:34
Bri Nightwoodlike you just said that would count double like because you have the right to vote. So, even if you're following your husband's guidance, it's two points. So, I guess, >> but there's just as many women like I
04:47:45
Maria (NC)thought it was terribly, terribly trashy during um whatever election it was where women were cheering that they were like, "Oh, my husband wants me to vote for so- and so, but I'm voting for so and so." And it was like a big trend you were
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Maria (NC)seeing all over social media. And I was like, "That's so disrespectful." Like, men don't ask a lot of their wives. Um my husband's always like, "Food, sex, respect. Those are the three things. if you can meet those three markers, we're
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Maria (NC)going to be happy. And I would never be like, "My husband wants me to vote for this man, but I'm going to vote for the other person despite him." Like, I think that's crazy. And it's like a pure reason why women shouldn't be able to vote cuz they're just purely being
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Maria (NC)spiteful in something that affects our country or our state or our city, whatever. >> I don't think all women do it out of spite. >> I mean, that's possible. I mean, I'm sure there are some. >> Yeah. Like I mean there there are some
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Jennyvery powerful women in this world that have we have the reason to vote for a reason and not all women most a lot
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Jennyresearch and do a lot of learning about the different parties and learning about who they want. It's not just a oh I'm going to do this because everybody else is. There's a lot of women out here and
04:48:55
Jennythat's why we thank God have the reason to vote and put our voice out there because we can have a different opinion than men. Not out of spite because that's who I want to vote for. And just because my husband wants to vote for
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Jennysomebody else, I'm going to put my foot down and vote for them because that's who I am and that's who I stand for. I'm not going to change my morals and my values for somebody just to meet theirs. And then also too, I would have that conversation before it even got to that
04:49:19
Jennypoint with my partner of, hey, I'm voting for this person and if you do not agree, we can't be together where I would never break up with someone because of their political views unless they didn't think mine like were matching theirs.
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Jenny>> So, so would you make sure that you politically aligned before getting with your >> That's what I'm saying. So like if my so like my partner like I would make sure that like before we even got into that that like our political views aligned but even if they didn't it's not
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Jennysomething that's going to be a breaker for me as long as it's not a breaker for them where it's like if they can understand that I'm going to vote for who I want to vote for like me and my dad we have very different political views but at the end of the day that's my dad and I love him. So it's just
04:49:56
Maria (NC)something that you have to be able to think about and not it's always just like spite or what the woman wants because they want the opposite. So, is there something that should be done to equalize the fact that like men can't
04:50:06
Maria (NC)vote unless they register for the draft? And like right now, we're closest that we've ever been to the chance that a draft could be called. Um, and the women won't have to do anything if that
04:50:18
Maria (NC)happens, but we still get to vote. Um, so what should be done to make that equal? >> Like what should women have to do to make it equal? >> I mean, yeah. Is there is there an equal sacrifice that women should have to