HEATED DEBATE! She ONLY Dates FAT Men?! He CHEATED On Her With Her MOM?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk 286

Date: 2026-03-16

Duration: 8h 57m

Guests

NNicole (Kansas)

Brian Atlas

LLexi (Chicago)>

BBri Nightwood >

KKaylee Chico >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Julia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Kaylee Chico(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lindsey(guest)

SPEAKER_05Jenny(guest)

SPEAKER_07Laetitia(guest)

SPEAKER_08Chris Love(guest)

SPEAKER_09Maria (NC)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Lexi (Chicago)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Veronica(guest)

SPEAKER_12Brooklyn(guest)

SPEAKER_14Bri Nightwood(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

ControversyVeronica cries and rage quits during weight rejection debate

ControversyLindsey rage quits/kicked off after confronting Brian

Key MomentMichaela drove 2.5 hours to date wheelchair man with warrants, chose him over green-flag guy

Key MomentLexi: 27yo boyfriend cheated on her with her biological mother when she was 17

Key MomentBri Nightwood: throuple with Satanist DJ with 12 dead exes and subliminal mind control

QuoteBri made $1M from dick ratings on OnlyFans (10,000+ ratings)

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions + Findom

Lexi (findom $10K/mo), Chris Love (Playboy/stripper), Brooklyn, more.

Rage Quits

Veronica cries and rage quits during weight debate. Lindsey also rage quits/kicked off.

Lexi Ex Cheated With Her Mom

At 17, her 27yo boyfriend cheated with her biological mother at a hotel.

Bri Satanist DJ Throuple

Throuple with DJ who had subliminal mind control frequencies, altar for taking souls, 12 dead exes.

Trivia Failures

Chris Love can't name Canada. Valerie guesses 7 states in USA. Jenny thinks France capital is Italy.

Transcript

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Laetitia>> Okay. You also, this is totally unrelated, you're a chubby chaser. >> I am. >> Like, you only date fat dudes. So, is it like the bigger the better?

Laetitia>> Mhm. >> Uh, >> like obese? >> Mhm. 600 lb. >> 500 lb? Yep. >> So, like question for you. 500 lb

Kaylee Chicopreferable to 200 lb? >> Yeah. Um, I think closer to 500 would be my preference if I had to pick. There's tons of guys who are like 180 and super super hot, but typically, yeah, 500 is

Jennygood. >> And are you a feeder, too? >> No. >> What are you feeder? >> You you feed them a bunch of food so they get fat. >> Oh, fat. >> Yeah. So, okay. Do you do you film that content? >> No, I'm not into feeder.

Jenny>> Okay. You're not? Okay. Okay. >> No, she just likes fat, dude. So like when you watch like 500 lb life or like 600 lb like are you like dang I need their number? >> There were some really good looking guys. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. I get you. And

Kaylee Chicois it more of just like a rel like you prefer those men or is it like a fetish thing? >> It's not a fetish. Um and for example like a lot of people have an issue with me being a chubby chaser and think well what if the guy wants to lose weight? Why do you want to encourage someone to be unhealthy? Like if I'm with a guy and

Jennyhe loses weight good for him and don't police like his body. >> It's just like you're not going to like go out of your way and be like I'm not going to date you because you're fat. Like my like >> Yeah, my ex was 5 foot2. Like I'm 5 foot three and he was 300 lb at his heaviest and I loved it.

Kaylee Chico>> Very hot. >> But would you lose attraction for a guy if he he when you first meet him he's chubby but he starts losing weight. >> Well, if we were together, no. Uh if he's just like a person in passing, yes,

Laetitiahe'd become less attractive. But dating, no. Once I'm in, I'm in, you know. >> Okay. Interesting. Interesting. Huh. So, would you Wait, hold on.

JennyI have a I don't know. That's That's an interesting one. Not a feeder, though. >> No. >> Okay. >> It just doesn't do it for me. >> Do you like cooking? >> Oh, yeah. I make very good food.

Kaylee Chico>> So, like they So, like you like you enjoy giving them like proper meals though, like nutritional >> turn me on to watch them get big. Like the videos forfeederism. watch like they'll take a bite and their stomach

Kaylee Chicothey force their stomach to like look big and people get off on that. >> That doesn't get me off at all. >> I just think the bigger there's literally more to love. Like you ask a guy who's a chubby chaser who likes big women and they just say there's more woman to love and like

Kaylee Chico>> Yeah, I see that with big guys. Like I love deep stretch marks like the really wide ones that are dark purple I think are super hot. I think man boobs are really hot. Um big guts are hot. >> Can I ask a real question?

SPEAKER_13>> Yeah. So, you call love keeping them unhealthy? >> No, people say that to me. >> People think since I'm a chubby chaser, I would only want them to be obese and

Kaylee Chicolike I'm doing these men a disservice by keeping them obese. But I >> But she's not a feeder. >> No. >> So, like >> I have no interest in keeping them big. If they're big by choice and they want to remain big, that's cool. But if they lose weight, good for them, you know.

Laetitia>> So, you wouldn't encourage them to like get better like >> No. >> Wait. Question for you. How about this related to her question? Let's say you've been married to this guy for 10

Laetitiayears and he comes back from the doctor and the doctor said, "Hey, you have uh you're like pre-diabetic and you need to lose weight." Under those circumstances,

Kaylee Chicowould you advocate your boyfriend or husband to lose weight? >> Yeah, of course. >> Okay. >> If it's for the better and it's what he wants to do, absolutely he could always. >> So, it's the bigger bigger the better is

Laetitiawhat you said, right? Bigger the better. >> Yes. I also had to some degree have not related to weight but uh I relate to the bigger is better thing in the sense of

Laetitiauh labia. I only date women. I also have a kind of an interesting thing. I only date or at least prefer to sometimes I'll give a girl a pass if she's really

Laetitiafantastic. Okay, you've gotten any. I'll tolerate you for a bit. Uh the for the labia the bigger the better. And so like I have a rating, you know, there's the

Laetitialooks rating. Uh you can actually move up quite a bit in attractiveness up to plus five points if the labia is just okay. So it works like this, right?

LaetitiaLet's say a girl's a five. So she's average. But okay, here's the here's the scale for the labial ranking. If it's like a small Audi, small Audi, slight

LaetitiaAudi plus one. Medium Audi plus two. Large Audi plus three. XL Audi plus four. Talking about it. World. Stop. Don't interrupt. Plus five Audi.

Laetitia>> Leia plus five. Plus five for the No, no, no. Hold on. >> Like the world record labia. Like the biggest I've ever seen. The biggest

Laetitiathere is. She's in Guinness World Record book. Labia. plus five. So she if she's a five, but she she could be a 10. She could be a 10. >> So if it sticks out, that's what you

Jennywant. >> Correct. >> But what if it's tucked in but fat? >> Like what if you got fat lips and then labe? So it's all tucked in together. >> It's an in.

Laetitia>> So okay, there's inner inner labia and outer labia. Are you referring to the outer labia? like she's got like an insanely puffy outer labia >> and it like covers it. So it makes it like kind of like >> I'm talking when I'm talking about lips

Jennylabia I'm talking about the inner labia. >> Yeah. I'm saying but like your lips can cover your labia if they're big enough. >> Hold on. The lips are the inner labia. >> Okay. You're talking Okay. Okay.

Laetitia>> The the the lips. Yeah. There's the outer labia which is essentially just your normal skin surrounding. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I got you. I mean that it's okay if the outer labas I'm talking about the inner labia. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

Laetitia>> Like inside there all up in there. Yeah. Got it. >> Well, it it's external. >> Yeah. >> So, okay. Do you need any further clarification?

Laetitia>> Oh, no. I just was saying that Okay. >> Okay. >> Nothing. Nothing from anybody. Okay. >> What What do the bigger ones do for you? What What do you like about them? Uh, visually it's better and then actually

Laetitialike it feels better. >> I've heard that. Okay. >> Lips that grip. I guess you say, >> "Can you tell if they have one?" >> Uh, you know, sometimes I get like a I get an intuition, but I've definitely

Veronicabeen wrong. >> Like you can sense they're your type. >> Yeah. Like I've Yeah. Well, >> like do you ever see a woman and you're

Laetitialike, "Oh, I bet she has a huge labia." >> So, okay. I've developed some theories. Okay. Um, so

Laetitiathis is going to sound a little not always, but women who have, this is going to sound [ __ ] crazy,

Laetitiaand it's not 100%. But if a woman has a little bit like like arm hair, like a little bit, that

Lindseycan sometimes be an indicator. >> I shaved my arms before this cuz of I'm used to called you in high school. >> Not all the time, but sometimes if she's like

Jennyhairy, >> but that's I don't have a preference for hairy women. So, I'm like in this [ __ ] predicament. I'm going to ask my boyfriend when I get home and be like, "Can you just let me know the size?" Like, I don't >> that aside from that, it's just some

Laetitiasome women do have big labia energy. Like, you can just tell. >> Wait, so hairy arms is a thing of that though. >> Well, it's not 100%. This is like my [ __ ] bro science. >> That should have been my comeback in high school cuz they would call me like

JennyChewbacca and I'd be like, "Well, I have a big labia." So, >> I don't know. Do you? >> I don't know. I mean, I I don't like I'm not down there with a mirror like, "Dang, I got a big labia." >> You've never looked at your >> I mean, I guess. Yeah. like it. Yeah, it's fat. Yeah.

Laetitia>> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Good to Nice. Congratulations. >> Thank you. My boyfriend enjoys it. >> I'm I'm proud of you. >> Yeah. >> Uh okay.

SPEAKER_00>> Oh, here we we'll get back to the relationship status first. Oh, this sorry below the >> donated $100 chair one. What kind of failure of a traditional father could you have possibly had who let his daughter become you?

Laetitia>> Oh yes. >> Also, do you think you deserve a man to ever save a hoe like you? >> Okay, sorry guys. Um I mean it doesn't really matter, but the TTS is just for

Laetitiaclarification is 199 and up, but I mean that just came through as a read. It's not a big deal. Do you want to answer that question? >> Um what kind of father did I have?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Well, you said your your dad's tra traditional. Yeah. Are your parents tradition Are your parents still married? >> Um, yeah. They've been together. Well, I mean, okay. So, here's some backstory. My dad was >> Wait, can you do me one favor? Can you

Laetitialike Your like body is No, leave the mic where it is. >> Your body is like facing this way. Can you face Yeah, that's good. Okay. >> Okay. >> And strain the mic now. So, it's like Yeah.

Laetitia>> Okay. >> Now, straighten it so it's like fa No. Straighten it. So, it's like 90 degree angle. Yep. >> Okay. So, go ahead.

Lexi (Chicago)>> So, yeah, I mean, my dad wasn't always traditional. Um, he cheated on my mom. Um, >> W just kidding. >> So, um, yeah. I mean,

Lexi (Chicago)um, but after he cheated on my mom, he stayed with the other woman until this day. So, and they're married. >> So, you know, I guess a man can change, so a woman can change, too.

Laetitia>> That's so romantic. Like he's he's still with her. >> Yeah, >> that's so beautiful. >> You know, I guess it's not once a hoe, always a hoe. >> Wait, so

Laetitia>> people change? >> Uh, wait, hold on. So, uh, he's Does he know that you post your butthole on the internet?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Um, >> does he? I never asked him directly if he like knew, but a lot of people in my family did know and I know that they knew because some people like followed my account and I was like, "Oh no, block

Lexi (Chicago)immediately." So I had uh I had like an inkling that my dad probably knows just because >> talk to him about it or >> No, I'm Do you talk to your dad? >> I talked to my dad about other things,

Laetitiajust not that. >> And then your mom, does she know? >> My mom knows. >> And do you have a stepfather or No. >> No. >> Okay. Okay. Your mom's just remained single, I guess. Um,

Laetitiashe knows. >> Yeah. >> Are you Are you Filipino? >> No, I'm Cambodian. >> Cambodian. Okay. You got a Cambodian mom? >> I have a Cambodian dad.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Oh, and your mom is >> um she's Puerto Rican. A lot of people don't expect uh you know, an Asian guy to pull a Latina for some reason. >> Yeah, they can do it. >> Yeah, they definitely can.

Laetitia>> Okay. Okay. So, you're you're half your Latina, half Latina, half Cambodian. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, your Puerto Rican mom >> Yeah. >> was cool with the sex work.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Um, >> she didn't get the belt or anything. >> She used to be a stripper, so she has like an understanding, I guess. >> All makes sense. >> Okay.

Lexi (Chicago)>> All makes sense then, I guess. Um, >> does she still? No, she stopped stripping a long time ago. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> Did she like teach you moves or something?

Lexi (Chicago)>> No. >> Okay. Um, would your dad disown you >> if he knew? >> No, I don't think he would. I think he

Lexi (Chicago)would. Um, he would want me to do better and he would just tell me that, but I don't think he would want to actually tell me that. I think my dad loves me a lot, so >> Okay. All right. Um Okay.

JennyUh, relationship status for you? >> Um, I am in a relationship. We've been together for a little over a year. >> All right. Long. Uh, what's the longest relationship you've been in?

Laetitia>> Three and a half years. >> Is your boyfriend going to be happy that you revealed you have a giant labia? >> Honestly, because it's his. Yeah, >> he's fine with it. Okay.

Julia>> I mean, I don't see like why. Like, >> I was just, you know, >> hairy arms. So, I didn't know. What about you? >> Um, I'm single as of 2:00 a.m. last night. >> I was like, should I still come? And

Juliathen I was like, you know, I made a time commitment for you guys. Yeah. So, but yeah, it was the 3-month mark, girl. The three-month mark. Yeah. My girlfriend broke up with me, but it's okay. >> Uh Oh, your girlfriend broke up with

Juliayour bisexual. >> Although, um, I'm like I guess you could consider by, but I prefer girls a lot more as I get older. Okay. Um, >> but I've dated men in the past. >> And you were uh previously married,

Juliaright? >> That was my longest relationship. Mhm. He was he was by though. >> He was by >> Yeah, he's really nice. He's pretty nice. >> Okay. How long were you married for? >> Like we're still get we're getting divorced right now. So

Julia>> you're not se uh you're not okay. >> Yeah, we're figuring out like the end stages of it, but he's really nice. Very amicable. >> You normally started divorce. >> Yeah. >> When did you guys file for divorce? We

Juliastarted filing in the beginning of last year and we figured out that our taxes weren't filed like correctly. This is boring, but we have a domestic partnership, so it's harder to file taxes. So, I'm going to a tax guy and

Juliagetting my taxes settled and then we're going to finish filing. >> Okay. Mhm. >> How long were you married for? >> Like it was 2020 and then to now. So, 6 years.

Julia>> Is he paying you alimony? >> No. No. We go like 50/50 with stuff. >> Okay. So, it's just going to be a clean >> clean break. >> Yeah. >> How long were you you were dating 3 months? The girl? >> Yeah.

Julia>> Okay. Um, were you guys during the marriage? Was it an open marriage? >> At some points, like towards the end, but then I just started to feel like it

Juliawasn't really like equal and I just felt like it would be better if we split up. Is Mike okay? Uh, >> yeah. Yeah. Um,

Laetitiahold on. Uh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everything's okay. >> Okay. >> Um

SPEAKER_06>> okay. Um

Julia>> so uh why did you break up with your girlfriend? >> No. Oh, she broke up with me because she said that she didn't have feelings for me and she just thinks I'm attractive and basically she was just like not

Laetitiafeeling it. But like it's all right cuz like I live in LA and it's a fun place to be single. >> So it was for the best. >> Okay. Uh who here's uh I guess just coming back uh or your sexual

Lexi (Chicago)orientation. >> Um I'm bisexual but I prefer dating men. >> Pansexual. Bye >> bye.

Laetitia>> Wait, hold on. Bye. >> Pansexual. Bye. By by by >> by >> I will say with a very strong female preference. Like I don't think I would date a guy again.

Julia>> Okay, so you're done with men. >> Yeah. >> Can you do Oh no, she's doing the bird hands. >> She's doing the bird hands. Boy, >> I just feel like I had such a good experience like with my kid's dad and it

Juliawas like definitely like a thing. So, like I don't see the reason. I'm just not into it anymore. But I appreciate the memories and our child is beautiful.

SPEAKER_06>> All right. Um, >> I'm straight. >> Say your truth, girl.

Kaylee Chico>> Let's [ __ ] go. >> Relationship status. >> I'm single. Louder. Louder. >> I'm single. >> Uh, longest relationship.

Laetitia>> Uh, I have one singular ex-boyfriend. We were together I think eight or nine years. >> One boyfriend. Yep. >> Eight or nine years. And you're 25. How long you been single? >> We got together when I was like 13. Oh, >> okay. How long you been single?

Jenny>> Couple years. Three, four. >> Close one of those doors, please. >> Three or four years. >> Okay. >> I would have thought you were like married for some reason. You're giving like stable relationship energy. Like you're very secure.

Laetitia>> Like I can weld you anything. >> That part. >> Uh. Wow. Okay. And is he the only guy you've been with biblically? >> No. I've had sex with other Ben, but

Laetitiahe's the only one I've ever dated. >> Okay. All right. Was he the first guy you were ever with, though? >> No. >> You start dating at 13?

Laetitia>> Yeah. >> How old is he? Um, he's two years older than me. >> Okay. Did you lose your virginity to him? >> No. >> Uh, what age did you lose your

Laetitiavirginity? >> Okay. We started when I was 14. I lost it at 14. >> Damn. >> Yeah. >> Uh, I guess going around the table, when did every I'll I'll even go. Uh, when did everyone lose their virginity? I was

Lexi (Chicago)I was 17. >> Um, I was a freshman, so I was 14. >> Hold on. Oh, >> a freshman in high school. Okay. >> 16. >> 16. Okay. >> 15.

Julia>> 15. >> 15. About to be 16. >> 18 for guys and then 19 for girls. >> 14. >> 27. 16.

Veronica>> Damn. What the [ __ ] [ __ ] late bloomer over here. 17. What the [ __ ] Damn. >> We did say earlier that I think that's more common in men that they wait

Julialonger. I think >> I mean uh >> I feel like it's hard cuz it's like the guy like you have to convince like a girl and then like there's always a guy that's down. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean?

Jenny>> Well, it it's easier for women to get laid. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> That's why I dated Ben for so long. I was just like >> asked uh the person you asked your virginity to that they have a large

Laetitialabio. >> Oh, was that like your first Yeah. Like when did the whole like I love large like big labio start? Honest. Yeah, that that developed a little later. I think maybe around the time I was like 21, 20,

Julia21. >> Mhm. >> But no, I don't I did not. As far as I recall, she did not have a large lab. >> Well, cuz at first you didn't know your preferences probably. You're still like learning things. >> True. It developed about your

Lexi (Chicago)preferences over time. >> You needed 14. Wait, 14? That's >> Well, you're probably just a late bloomer because um like women date older guys most of the time. Usually, it's like that's how it goes. I mean, a lot

Lexi (Chicago)of guys don't really date older girls most of the time. >> My ex-husband >> most of the time. >> Wait, who else can every

JuliaDamn 14? [ __ ] >> [ __ ] man. >> I was still playing with Barbie dolls. Like, that's scary. >> I like was not interested in boys in high school. I was like I would make up

Juliafake crushes. I'd be like, "Oh my god, that guy Justin Bieber." Yeah. And then I was like stressing about my AP test. >> Okay. Well, >> every year I had >> AP. That's crazy. I was in the special classes.

Brooklyn>> Okay. Go. >> Uh, relationship status. >> Uh, single but talking to somebody. >> Ooh. >> For how long? >> Uh, like two weeks. >> Okay. Wait. Single or talking to somebody?

Laetitia>> That's still single. >> Like how long? What >> have you been talking to this person? Oh, >> okay. two weeks. >> And I guess how long have you been single then? >> Like a year.

Laetitia>> Okay. Uh longest relationship? >> Uh just under three years. >> All right. Uh the two weeks guy, have you guys had carnal knowledge?

Maria (NC)>> No. >> No. >> What does that mean? >> Do you know what carnal knowledge is? >> No. >> Here, look at her.

Maria (NC)Oh, >> two two weeks. Okay. Uh, what about you? >> I'm married. Um, we've been married for almost 8 years. Um, it's my longest relationship. He was the first man I

Laetitiaever kissed. >> A >> And uh, like you were you a virgin when you guys got married? >> Yes. When we Yeah. When we got married, I was still a virgin. >> You waited till marriage? >> Yes. >> Okay. And he's the only guy you've been with. >> Yes.

Laetitia>> Okay. And kids? >> Uh, yeah, we have two. >> Anybody else here have kids? >> I have a kid. >> You have a kid? How old? >> His name uh four. >> Is that from your ex-husband? >> Yeah. Okay. Uh, what about you?

Veronica>> I have three kids. >> What uh relationship status? >> Oh, I'm single. Uh, my longest relationship was eight years and I've been single for over a year.

Laetitia>> Uh, the relationship that ended one year ago, how long was that one? um like two years. >> Okay. Uh so your 8-year one was that

Veronicayour Were you married? >> Um not to him. No, I was married to my oldest daughter's dad. Uh she's 14. We I got married when I was 18 and we split

Veronicaup when she was 9 months old and we actually stayed married for 6 years until we got divorced. And then I had two more children with um another guy. We were together for eight years.

Laetitia>> For eight years. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And you've been married just once? >> Yeah. >> Okay. I see. So married for 6 years, one child from that marriage, dated a different guy for eight years, two children from him. Do I have that correct?

Laetitia>> Yes. >> Okay. Uh the uh your first marriage, did he or does he pay you alimony? >> No. >> No point. He paid you alimony. >> Never.

Laetitia>> Did you pay him alimony? >> No. >> Uh what's the custody arrangement with the first? >> We have 50/50. >> Does he pay you child support? >> No. >> Do you pay him child support? >> No. >> Uh and then the 8-year relationship

Laetitiawhere you've had two children from that 8-year relationship. Does he pay you child support? No. >> Uh, do you pay him child support? >> Nope. >> 50/50? >> Nope. >> You full custody?

Laetitia>> Yeah, he's not in um my two youngest kids' lives, unfortunately. >> Okay. All right. Uh but no, you haven't uh see sought child support?

Laetitia>> I have not. >> Okay. Uh is any particular reason or just don't want to be a [ __ ] to him or what? What's the >> I don't really want to get into it on

Veronicahere, but he's just not >> in jail prison. >> No, he probably should be, but he's not.

VeronicaHe um our lives are just better with, you know, where where he doesn't see them. And >> okay, >> yeah, it's kind of complicated. I know

Veronicayou're probably thinking like, how is that better like for your kids not to have their dad in their life? But I it it just is for for all of us. >> For someone who grew up with a person where they shouldn't have had their mom

Laetitiain their lives, I understand. >> Yeah. It's just he shouldn't be around. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Uh so I mean we don't need to get into details, but essentially are you hinting at or pointing towards there was some

Veronicaabuse? Um he has he did abuse me late on in the relationship but um it he struggles with addiction

Veronica>> okay >> and narcissism >> narcissism >> severe severe like what's an example of >> um

Veronicawhenever something or someone like an emergency happened he would either like

Veronicaput the attention on himself or like create another problem like you know just to like divert away from

Laetitialike you know what I'm saying? >> No, not really. >> Okay. >> Could you give an example? um

Veronicawhen we were having a birthday party for my kids one time, he um decided that he

Veronicawasn't going to be there and he just decided to up and leave and um my nobody really knew why, but I think it was the

Veronicaaddiction probably. But he would just like disappear like that from time to time. >> Yeah.

Laetitia>> Uh, who here, speaking of narcissism, who here has dated someone who you consider to be a narcissist? Show of hands.

LaetitiaIs that raise them high? Raise them high. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Okay. Boom. Uh, and then those of you

Laetitiawho raised your hand, of those men, were they diagnosed by a clinician, therapist, psychologist, psychiatrist as a narcissist?

Julia>> They were diagnosed with Oh, sorry. Um, they were diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. Not narcissism, but it was like it was pretty bad. Like I trauma bonded with the girl that they were like cheating on me with. >> No.

Bri NightwoodUm, >> were they diagnosed? >> Um, actually he was diagnosed with multiple personality disorder and one of his personalities was a narcissist. >> Girl, >> one of them.

Julia>> Yeah. >> Okay, that's interesting. >> I do feel like it gets like um the term gets thrown around a lot though. >> Like it's like there's a difference between having narcissistic personality disorder and like other disorders that have that like as a main character

Lexi (Chicago)trait. Yeah. >> Uh, we have a chat here from Anan. Lexi, you get to read it. >> Um, would anyone on the panel that does social media of not publicly disclose a

Lexi (Chicago)current relationship to protect their income following?

Lexi (Chicago)Um,

Lexi (Chicago)>> I mean, >> one eternity later. >> The only time >> Yeah. I mean, well, I I don't I don't disclose anyone that I date. Like, honestly, I just like I just feel like

Bri Nightwoodum there's just no really point to do that. I mean, in like certain um conversations with a fan, like if it's a new fan coming in and he's like like, "Tell me you're single, please." And like, if that might be the thing to get

Bri Nightwoodhim to spend money, I might just say it. But like, I mean, I'm I'm saying like I already disclosed it here, like I have, you know, like I have a boyfriend, so I'm not like going to hide that information from the public, but every

Kaylee Chiconow and then it might help with a sale. You know what I mean? >> Yeah, that makes sense. me. >> You You do OF, right? So,

Kaylee Chico>> yeah, I think it's fine to like keep parts of your interpersonal relationships private from the internet for your own safety. >> Yeah. >> Well, I mean, you don't need to share like specific details. You don't need to

Laetitiapost them. But if you were simply asked, hey, you know, when we're going through the relationship questions, are you in a relationship? You know

SPEAKER_13you Okay. You are also doing stuff. >> Oh, he said social media or OAF. >> You don't do you just Yeah, just >> you don't do OAF. Okay. >> All right. Well, I mean, I can speak

Laetitiafrom my own experience, of course, women do tell me things off the record. And given my strong journalistic integrity,

LaetitiaI would never disclose a source. Uh, but I can tell you that many women have told me after the show who do Only Fans, uh, that they're in relationships, but they

Laetitialied on the show and said that they're single. Um, and that could be Only Fans, girls. could even be women who just are streamers, do social media because it

Laetitiahurts their bottom line to be seen as taken because these men uh these simps want a chance. >> Uh and they're probably more inclined to

Laetitiaspend more on a woman if she's single in the hopes of possibly having a shot with her. But if she's already in a relationship, that is typically a non-starter. So, >> Mhm.

Jenny>> Yeah. >> makes sense. >> Like this girl right here, she's probably been dating a guy for two years for all we know. >> Oh, no. >> That's why you deleted the content cuz you didn't want everyone to see his

Lexi (Chicago)face. >> Oh, well, I just deleted his content because I didn't want him to say, "Oh, well, you need to send me money because you still sell content with me in it." >> Yeah. Like royals.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Yeah. He was very um narcissistic. Like it was literally my face on like all these like social media like platforms and he's like, "Yeah, those are my accounts." >> So is he like >> I filmed a manager for you?

Lexi (Chicago)>> Huh? >> Was he like trying to be a manager type thing for you? >> Um I mean yeah, that's kind of like what we like we had like a contract deal, so it's just like a lot. >> Sorry.

Laetitia>> I think I I wonder if I should clip farm. Should I clip farm for a little bit? Um, we need to uh for our clips. We

Laetitiaalways like to Should I uh maybe [ __ ] do we do it now? The lighting is good during the day. >> Um, let's do You know what? I've never

Laetitiadone this on the show, but just for our clips, we always do like have people doing something kind of unique to get people's attention. Uh, so for our clips here, Lexi, make a make a little funny silly face into this camera.

LaetitiaThat >> that wasn't silly. >> I don't know. Do like uh you could do better like do a wink or something or do >> That was terrible. Okay. How about you give it a shot right here? Camera right

Laetitiahere. >> That Okay. I don't even know what the [ __ ] you're Okay. >> Wow. You guys are just This was a terrible idea. I >> put on the spot. >> I regret even. I regret even. Do we need

Jenny>> Come on. We have >> here. Try it again. Do that again, Lexi. Okay. What the [ __ ] I'm just kidding. Uh, should we should we get popsicles? I don't know. I feel like >> Yes. I watched the the blonde girl eat

Laetitiathe popsicle. That was good. >> Let's uh We'll have to stagger the popsicles because if everybody's eating a popsicle Lexi goes first. Get Lexi a popsicle. >> Get Lexi. >> Are they the Johnny Pops?

Jenny>> Yeah, >> that would be fun. Uh, open that up. >> We get to eat by popsicles. >> That would be funny if I buy it. >> No, I'm just

Laetitia>> All right. So, uh, let's see here. One sec, guys. Uh, behind you, Lexi, you can, uh, >> thank you. Wow. So pretty. Pride. >> I know. Ally.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Each color is a different color. >> I live in a boy town, so >> yeah. >> Girl, >> right here. >> Well, >> we need to hang out. Go ahead. Have fun.

LaetitiaWhat are you doing? >> You got a face.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm just like giving the camera a little side eye. My gosh. Made me nervous. Why? Why do I have to have the popsicle? It's like feels so sexual. I'm sorry. Just like the word already.

Lindsey>> What do you do for fun in Chicago? >> Why are you LET HER ENJOY THE POPSICLE. >> I WAS TRYING TO GIVE HER SOMETHING to do while she ate the popsicle. Keep it here. Nathan, is that is that how you eat a [ __ ] popsicle? >> This is how I eat a popsicle.

Lexi (Chicago)>> That is >> I eat all the frost off of it cuz I have OCD. >> Well, I want a nice clean one and then I I enjoy it if it real, you know? >> Yeah. >> All right. Uh, so you're pan?

Bri Nightwood>> Yes. >> So, you date trans people? >> Um, I haven't actually dated a trans person, but I'm open to it. Uh my boyfriend's like he's dated a lot of trans people. >> Slay.

Bri Nightwood>> Yeah. >> So you haven't dated a trans person? >> But no, I consider myself pan though still because like I'm open to it. I just haven't had the opportunity.

Laetitia>> Oh my god. These girls are like >> don't get it. They don't get it. Okay. >> Um Okay. So, uh you would date a trans person?

Julia>> Yeah. Okay, cool. Would anybody else here date a trans person? >> I dated a trans person. >> I have or would >> Is it How about this? Do you guys think

Juliait's um Do you think it would be straight for me to date a trans woman? >> I will say like I think that it's

Juliadefinitely different. Like I don't think it would be like because I feel like sometimes some trans people will be like oh like this like straight man should like date me but like I feel like that's definitely like you're allowed to have a preference cuz like you know some

Julialesbians might not want to date like a trans girl you know cuz it's just about like the parts that we appreciate. >> Yeah. But what if that trans girl doesn't like what if they want to date men cuz >> Well, I just mean from the other side. >> Okay.

Jenny>> You know what I mean? Like if he says he's straight then he might not like trans might not be his preference. >> Yes, you would be considered straight because you are dating a woman who is

Jennynow a woman and is is coming and saying I am a woman and on her ID it says she her and also you can get an ID picture now updated because I have friends that are in the trans community and they have

Laetitiatheir current pronouns on their card because that's what they are. >> I disagree. >> Yeah. So, uh, >> along with their picture, >> and I'm sure the women over here on the side of the table want to jump into

Laetitiathis. So, my position is, uh, if I dated a trans woman, that would be gay. >> But what if they have the bottom surgery? >> Yeah, that's not [ __ ] That's like

Laetitiainverted penis. >> Okay. >> And like a [ __ ] wound. A >> Have you tried one though? >> Have you tried one, though? >> Uh, no. >> So, how would you know what it feels

Laetitialike? Well, hold on. I've never been shot before, but I can imagine it'd be really painful to be shot. >> Well, yeah, but >> so like I can, you know, humans have the gift of creativity.

Jenny>> Yeah, but I know trans females and I know I've seen their puss. I've seen what >> You don't even know what your [ __ ] looks like, but you know what some trans [ __ ] looks like. >> I'm not going in there with some like things, but yes, I've seen like I've

Jennyhave been sent photos of like, yes, this was my before and my after. >> Yeah, that's not [ __ ] though. That's something else. >> But it's considered scient like they made it that

Jenny>> scientifically they made biologically they took their penis and like they took it and they made it into a vagina. >> So what you're saying is my penis as it

Laetitiacurrently is >> it it is of it is of >> it is of the nature to potentially become a vagina. I need more water.

Jenny>> If you go through the surgeries and you go through the proper needs that you need to, yes, but you're not over here trying to be trans. >> So, if I cut my dick off and made it into >> You were a doctor.

Laetitia>> It doesn't [ __ ] matter. Just >> It does. >> It's It's irrelevant here. Here. The whole uh question that I'm about to ask. If I were to cut my dick off and like

Jennymake it into like a flesh, would that be that would be a [ __ ] But are you going through the like everything that you need to go through? Like if you were to just cut off your dick and be like,

Jenny"Hey, I have a flashlight or whatever." That's not being trans. That's not becoming a woman. >> Yeah, it's not. But like the material, >> what you're saying is So, but what you're saying is though, it's not the same realm cuz you're not here becoming

Jennya woman. You're not here taking the proper what is it? Uh estrogen that they take. >> Uh the shots. So, it's like it's not the same to sit here and say, "Oh, well, if I cut my dick off and make a puss, is it

Laetitiagoing to be a puss?" Yeah. I mean, am I >> sure? Okay. I'm willing to completely set aside the remove like the flesh argument then. Uh, let's say it would be

Jennyto it were to maintain on me like I I got the bottom surgery. >> That's not [ __ ] >> Yeah. But why did you get the bottom? like it's to become and give you what is

Jennylike supposed to be what you can with what your skin is. That is your [ __ ] That is what they gave you. So just because you don't have like it's what the doctor created your vagina to look like. Just because it's not a basic

Jennylooking vagina doesn't mean >> it's not a vagina but it's made to look like and to resemble a vagina as closely as possible. >> So therefore it's a vagina. It may not be a perfect one but it is.

Jenny>> It's literally not a vagina. And they have feeling down there as well, too. So, how do you explain that? >> My elbow has feeling. Is that a vagina? >> But they're making it look and they're giving you the exact like you can pee

Laetitiaout of it. >> So, if I were to graft my dick skin onto my elbow, >> some people do that. >> Is it a vagina? >> Well, if you take someone's nipple and you put the nipple right here and you sew it on, is it still a nipple?

Jenny>> Yes. >> Right. So, if I put my penis on my elbow, it's still a penis. No, because you're taking the penis and you're conforming it into completely different anatomy. >> No, it's just an inverted penis. >> No, they do. No, there's feeling in there. They can make you a [ __ ] Like,

Laetitiathey can do it all. >> No, that's just part of the penile tissue. It's not a clitoris. It's not a vagina. >> Well, it's not a penis anymore. >> Uh, that's that could be disputed, but for

Bri Nightwoodone thing is certain, it's certainly not a vagina. >> What if you use a real vagina though? Like a vagina transplant? >> Has that been done? Is that a thing? >> Well, pretend pretend science I feel like science can't get to that point.

Jenny>> But no, science but right now it's it's all cos it's cos what is it? Cos um when it's like looks cosmetic. >> Yeah. No, just like um the specific word when you just like >> cosmetic.

Jenny>> Yeah, it's a cosmetic thing where it's like yes, it cosmetically looks like a vagina. Does it function like a vagina? Yes, because it is the closest thing that you can get to a vagina. Just because it's not you weren't born with

Juliait doesn't mean that it's not a vagina. I will say I want like an OG. >> Oh boy. >> An OG. >> An OG. >> I would I would prefer an OG. >> A pre like an old lady.

Julia>> No. No. We love ladies with preferences. >> No. I mean like like an OG like you know >> vagina. >> Yeah. >> Oh. This is my personal dating preference. Yes. >> Basically what he's saying is that like

Lexi (Chicago)uh dildos are not like real [ __ ] right? Cuz it's like just cuz it looks like one performs like one doesn't mean that it is. Cuz then you could say like cuz then people could say that like someone like isn't gay if they like

Juliaprefer penetration or if they like penetration. You know what I mean? So it's like if you use that argument like if you use the argument against him, you're also saying it like the other way

Juliaaround too, if that makes sense. That like if that is a vagina in its original form, then a dildo would be like the same thing. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> Well, what about on like a prosthetic

Jennylike a prosthetic thing? Like if someone gets a prosthetic leg, is it not a leg? >> Well, it's not a leg. It's a prosthetic, but it's a prosthetic. >> The word before it prosthetic biological leg. >> It's a different leg. >> It's still a different form of leg, but

Laetitiait's still a leg. >> Well, hold on. So, if we're just changing the definitions of what things mean. So, okay. Uh, somebody who is um

Laetitiasomebody who is a uh child abuser is is somebody who has piercings in their face. Mhm. What? What? Wait, what do you mean? Someone that's a child abuser.

Laetitia>> So, if I just change the definition for what child abuser is to somebody who has more than uh five piercings in their face, does that parse in terms of actually trying to convey meaning to

Jenny>> But what does that have to do with a pair like a fake leg being called a fake? It's still a leg. >> What does that have to do? >> If you're essentially changing the definition, so it >> I'm not changing the definition. It's

Jennycalled a prosthetic leg because it's a prosthetic leg. It's still a leg. >> Therefore, if you get if you were going under surgery and on the document it says that you are undergoing a surgery to get a vagina. What is that on paper?

LaetitiaA vagina. >> Why are you saying vagina? >> Vagina. >> Why are you saying [ __ ] with an F? >> Vagina. >> No. So, first off, uh so a prosthetic leg that's either going to be made out

Laetitiaof some sort of metal material, some sort of metal alloy, it can be made out of wood. It can be made out of plastic. There's all kinds of different materials. Um, what you're talking about

Laetitiais when they do this procedure, they basically cut a hole into you. They they insize a hole and they invert the penis

Laetitiainto that hole. So, you have penile tissue there. Uh, that that's a hole which has penile tissue, but it's not a

Laetitiavagina. Now, if you want to call it like um No, it's just not a vagina. >> What would you call it? >> Uh a gaping wound.

Jenny>> Okay. >> A penis wound. >> That's what they have. Like, so when you go to pay your medical bills, they're like, "You're paying for your penis wound." >> Well, I don't understand this. So, um if

JennySo, okay. Just because something is labeled as such, does that mean that you are the thing? Well, just because it doesn't have the same just because it's still a vagina. >> Okay. So, for example, you know on the

LaetitiaUber app how they just rolled out nationwide how women can match with other women drivers and so I could go on the Uber app and just change my gender. >> Uh >> oh gosh.

Jenny>> Does that because on the Uber app it says that I'm a woman. Does that make me a woman? >> So if you were to go to the doctor and answer my question first. So, no, you wouldn't because it's not the same logic.

Laetitia>> Okay. So, I could go, my understanding at least in California, I could go to the DMV. I believe it's the DMV or maybe you have to go through the court. I'm not entirely sure. You can do it's

Laetitiapretty simple process in California. Uh you can request a change of your listed gender. >> But you actually doing that and you actually being that are two different things, >> right? So just because a doctor who's a

Laetitiaactivist >> who is like doing trans surgery refers to the thing as a vagina doesn't make it a vagina. >> No, but that's not what I'm saying. Just because the doctor has on the paper. I'm

Jennynot just saying because it's on paper. I'm saying no. What I'm saying is so if it was on paper and it was like yes, you were paying for this, this, and this, and this. It's not just the doctor that is saying that. That is medical science

Laetitiathat is saying what it is. >> Science. You're literally Hold on. you you're talking about science. Biology is a hard science. Biology is not a soft science. Biology is a hard science. So,

Laetitiait's actually you're you're kind of a science denier. It's interesting. You you know the the people that are big on the science thing, they're actual science deniers. So, it's just a

Laetitiabiological reality. Males cannot become females. Females cannot become males. uh a man, a male, so tr transw woman

Laetitiacannot have a vagina through the means of cutting a hole in their pubic area and inverting their

Laetitiapenis. That is a a hole which has been surgically created which is constituted out of penile tissue that

Jennyis not a vagina. >> Okay. >> But you still think it is. Is that correct? >> No. I understand what you're saying and I agree. >> So wait, are you >> Yeah. No changing.

Jenny>> Yeah. I agree. What you said made sense to me. Yes. >> Okay. So you're conceding the point. >> Yeah. I understand what you're saying. >> Okay. Would it be gay then for me to date a trans woman? >> I mean I if Yeah. Because if you

Laetitiatechnically if science is saying that it's not a vagina then yeah because you're not [ __ ] a vagina. Therefore you are gay. >> Well what do you mean by science is saying it. >> So >> when cuz science

Jenny>> what what is >> what is science? >> So I'm when I say that I mean like what when you're born like what science is saying is a man and a woman. Well, what

Laetitiaif sitting next to me was a a uh surgeon >> who is a trans activist who performs these surgeries and they also do scientific research

Laetitia>> and they're a scientist and they claim uh the science is that this is actually a vagina. Are they right? >> You're saying if they like based on

Laetitiatheir research. >> Yeah. So they're the scientist and they're claiming that that is in fact a vagina. Are they correct? >> No. Because it's not that's that's not

Jennyaccurately right based on facts. >> Okay. So when you say the science says, you're not just referencing >> No, what I meant to say was like based on what a man and a woman is supposed to be when you were born. That's what I meant by science. >> That's not your position, is it?

Laetitia>> What do you mean? >> Well, you believe trans women are women. >> Yeah, I do. >> Okay. So, trans women who have undergone bottom surgery

Jennyand is that a vagina? >> What is on paper? No, it's not. What you've been telling me? No. From what it is, you said it's a hole. >> Okay. On that specific thing, you've

Jennycompletely You're conceding on that. >> I mean, yeah. I mean, that's what the show is about is learning things. And I mean, honestly, I like Yeah, it it it makes sense to me. Like, yes, it is not considered a vagina. It's a hole. I feel

Jennylike it's like just a it's a different thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like the point is that it's like >> the reason like I just needed the why because I didn't have like the now that I completely understand it. It's like no that is not a vagina. Like yes it is.

JennyYou are correct. It is a hole and it wouldn't be considered a vagina. But even if it is written on paper saying you have a vagina it's for that doctor because they are an advocate for that like you said. >> Okay. >> Mhm. Like it's like they created a

Jennydifferent thing because the point is to make the person who's paying all this money for this surgery to like feel better. >> Yeah. But I understand why you're stepping on an actual point. No, it is not a vagina. >> It's not an OG. >> Yes. >> Mhm.

Maria (NC)>> Do you guys hear >> Do you guys want to weigh in on the topic? >> Well, I mean, from the medical perspective, my understanding is if you have a fake vagina, you're not going to an OB to take care of it. You're just

Maria (NC)going to probably a surgeon for afterare. >> Um, >> good point. And then you can't change your DNA. So still scientifically you're still male or female no matter what your pronouns are.

Lexi (Chicago)>> So then that would make Brian having sex with a trans woman that would be gay because it's too >> it would definitely be like spectrum. Like I feel like it'd be on the scale. >> Sex with a trans woman is gay.

Bri Nightwood>> What if you're attracted to them for their femininity or their what >> femin feminine qualities? >> Do they have a penis? I mean, >> you would acknowledge that there are trans women who still have >> What if you're like imagining the

Laetitiabutthole as a vagina though in your head? >> Still, >> I feel like >> so a male's butthole. >> [ __ ] a male in his butthole with your penis. >> I mean,

Laetitia>> that sounds really like I mean, just I'm not using this in a pjorative sense. That's homosexual. >> I mean, heterosexual. There's like a spectrum to it. Like >> if you're if you're [ __ ] a male in

Laetitiahis butthole, that is that is homosexual. >> It I mean a little bit. >> No, not just a little bit. That is like the ultimate homosexual act essentially.

Jenny>> It's what he was telling me >> to enjoy that you would have to be like, you know, >> it's what he was telling me how the doctor like even though the doctor says what it is, it's not that. So, even if you do imagine it's a vagina, it's still a bow.

Bri Nightwood>> I still think there is a difference though in people that um are attracted to trans females and they're attracted to them for like their feminine qualities and people that are gay and attracted to like you know like hairy big men. Like I feel like there is a

Juliadifference. >> Yeah. Cuz like I wouldn't date like somebody who's like fully transitioned into being like a man >> like cuz I'm not like into that kind of thing. >> So I think there is a difference there like with

Lexi (Chicago)>> Yeah. But I guess like um a man is like considered gay once he knows that like that woman is trans, you know, and he still wants to like pursue her. >> I don't know. I would call it like

Lexi (Chicago)pansexual because there are men who like anal and if she looks really feminine. >> Wait, hold on. What? Wait. >> Yeah. I would call it like either like

Laetitiabisexuality or like like homosexuality. >> You'd be on the Kinsey scale for sure. >> Wait, wait, wait. To your point, you're saying there are men who like anal sex. Are you saying >> yes? So

Laetitia>> receptive or giving? >> Giving. So like if she >> anal sex with women, >> that would still be feminine. >> Or they if

Laetitia>> No, no, no. So if you have, look, if you have a uh anal sex with a biological female, that is still a heterosexual act.

Laetitia>> Mhm. If you have anal, you have any kind of sexual activity with a biological male and you're a male, that is a homosexual act. >> Okay. How about like hermaphrodites, people

Juliawith two >> Okay. Like 01 of the population. >> I feel like it's different too if it's like I know this one trans girl and she's like so pretty. She's like literally beautiful and like she transitioned when she was like 13 years

Juliaold. So like you can't like you really can't tell. So, I feel like the kind of person who's like attract No, like she's so hot, but like the kind of person who's attracted to like that is different than somebody who's attracted to somebody who still has like masculine

Juliacharacteristics, >> like you'd be a little bit more I would say like gay if you're like into somebody who looks more like your gender. >> Yeah, >> I agree with that. I think like if you

Lexi (Chicago)like if you look exactly like if if I'm like here right now and I have a dick in my pants and you guys didn't know that >> and like a guy wanted to [ __ ] me cuz he thought that I was a girl that's not gay. That's straight. >> Yeah, >> that's pretty straight. You know, he's

Lexi (Chicago)like looking at a girl a hot girl and he thinks that like she's like so [ __ ] hot she wants to [ __ ] her. Yeah, that's straight. But like once you like know that I have like a dick in my pants and you're still turned on, that's where I

Laetitiawould say like that's like uh you know >> Yeah. Like everybody thought my ex was not really straight anymore. >> Men can be deceived. >> Yeah, >> men can be deceived. But yes, if if he

Laetitiaknows that the person is trans, then yeah, then you're gay. Like you're it's it would be gay. Um >> yeah.

Laetitia>> Well, how about this? Uh a lesbian woman being penetrated by a transgender woman with a penis. Is that a heterosexual or a homosexual act?

Laetitia>> Wait, can you repeat that? >> I would have a lesbian woman, >> sis. I [ __ ] hate that term, but a lesbian cis woman

Laetitia>> who's being penetrated by a transgender woman preop. So, she she she has a penis. >> Yeah. >> Is that heterosexual or homosexual? >> Heterosexual. >> I feel like you'd be at least more on

Juliathe buy cuz I wouldn't be okay with that. I would I would give him a good handshake, >> right? >> I would like buy him a coffee. >> But so then >> but not down. >> Are trans women women?

Lexi (Chicago)>> I would say it's a different like that's the word be for it. So it's like, you know, it's not like your like wife. >> I feel like if you were a transgender woman that was transitioning to like,

Lexi (Chicago)you know, fully become like a woman, you wouldn't be using like your dick, you know? >> Correct. Yeah. Like you would be using it unless I mean as a vagina >> you use it to pee but not like

Lexi (Chicago)>> like I don't think you would be using it for penetration if like your intention is to like fully go through with it. >> That's correct. If you cuz then you wouldn't be >> that would even if you didn't use your penis who would still be gay. It would

Lexi (Chicago)still be gay. >> I mean like if like these two women were together and the woman is a lesbian and she's waiting for her to like go through with her surgery. like she's still a lesbian, you know, at the end of the

Lexi (Chicago)day. But like if she's being penetrated by like the penis and she's um you know, the woman that has a penis is not going to fully transition, then you know, there's a there's a little more questions there. I guess

Julia>> you're both like lesbian, but you're it's like different like there's different like preferences. >> Yeah. >> Like if you only want to date someone who identifies as like female. So, I

Jennycan't speak for trans, but >> if you were if you were going to become a woman, >> they do not want to use that in like any sexual anything unless they're using the

Jennybathroom because it that's not what they want. So, if you were to do that, that's kind of going against the whole transformation. >> Yeah. A lot of trans people don't want you to like touch them at all. >> In my exper I've dated trans masked

Juliapeople and they're like, "Yeah, no." Like, I have dated so many trans mask people. They love single moms and like they never want you to touch them. Like it's like a thing. >> It's very I feel like a lot of people don't want to just be touched. Like I

Juliafeel like that's an everything. >> Well, no. It gives you like dysmorphia. >> Oh, body dysmorphia. >> Like they get body dysmorphia just from touching them. >> Yeah. Like touching their parts that they don't like. >> Oh, I thought you meant just literally like

Jenny>> No, like like insects they don't want to. They just want to be doing things to see what you're saying. >> Cuz it reminds them that they don't like their body. >> Yes. Yeah. or it reminds them that it's there. >> It do be that way sometimes.

Lexi (Chicago)>> Okay. Um, what is a woman? >> Um, a woman is a girl with a, you know,

Laetitiacertain chromosome. I don't know what is it the Y. I don't know. It's fun. >> Can you turn like Okay. Just because we we don't like to get people's pro side

Bri Nightwoodprofile. Um, if you can try to stay like straight to the table or even turn a bit towards the TV. Go ahead. >> A woman. Uh, same thing what she said. The chromosomes and I guess like

Bri Nightwoodfeminine qualities, I guess. Um, long hair. Uh, I don't know, makeup. >> So, the chromosomes. >> Well, yeah, that's like the biological. If we're talking like biology, then yes.

SPEAKER_13>> Yeah. But just what is a woman? >> Well, XX chromosomes, right? Yeah. you came out of your mom when you were born and they wrote your gender down on

SPEAKER_13your birth certificate and it was girl or boy and apparently now it's like you know if you identify as a woman then you're a woman so >> okay >> when you come out of your mother if you got a little dingling or if you got a

Jennylittle hoo-ha >> that's what I thought trans women are women >> well no because remember we just went over this whole thing where you were saying that if it's not a vagina then

JennySo, you've just completely changed your entire position on this. >> I mean, if you're Well, logically, if I'm sitting here and I'm thinking about it, it's like, why would I continue to think that it's a vagina when it's not?

LaetitiaYou just did the whole explanation and it made sense to me. So, no, it's not considered a vagina because of what you said. It's >> right. somebody who's like a trans person or

Laetitiatrans activist would say even even prior to having the bottom surgery or any surgery it would just come down to genuine identification.

Laetitia>> Yeah. So are you asking me like if I like if a if a trans woman is a woman? So my understanding is the position that

Laetitiafor trans people, trans activists is as soon as you genuinely ID yourself >> as a woman, that makes you a woman. You

Laetitiadon't have to even now you can better align with your outward appearance in terms of looking like a woman, but as

Jennysoon your trans identity, it just requires ID, self ID. Yeah, I think it has to do like what we were saying before. It has to do like with

Jennythe surgery. Like it's what to make you feel better and to make you feel like a woman. Yes. But if you're going to sit here and be like, "What is the definition of a woman?" When you come out of your mother and you have a vagina or a dick, that's what it comes down to.

Julia>> Okay. What about you? >> The people that stress me out in dating. >> But I agree with you. I agree with you. >> Okay. >> XX chromosomes. >> Two X chromosomes.

LaetitiaXX chromosomes. >> Two X chromosomes in a vagina. >> All right, there it is, folks. There it is. All right. Uh, we need to do the show intro. Uh, so guys, this podcast is

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