Armpit Hair Feminist HEATED DEBATE?! 100+ Body Count?! MASSIVE COPE?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #168

Date: 2024-06-10

Duration: 7h 24m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBobby Lavender >

AAlyssa (DT168)>

JJuliet (DT168)>

KKaren (DT168)>

MMadison (SBCC)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Tavia(guest)

SPEAKER_04Alyssa(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bobby Lavender(guest)

SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Karen(guest)

SPEAKER_13Sky(guest)

SPEAKER_14Juliet(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBobby Lavender introduces herself: 30yo, Louisiana, OnlyFans since pandemic, also cams on MyFreeCams

“hello my name is Bobby lavender I'm 30 years old just turned 30 I live in Louisiana I am on only fans for like four years now basically since the pandemic”

QuoteAlyssa discloses she is legally separated from NPD husband; two kids ages 1 and 2; filed for divorce February

“I officially filed in February I wanted out of my marriage the last several years Texas will not finalize divorces when you're pregnant and I was pregnant for 2 years in a row”

QuoteKaren reveals she married her husband who was intended as a one-night stand in Skagway Alaska; he was a friend of her then-hookup

“I married a one night stand he was supposed to be a one night stand and it turned into a 10-year relationship”

ControversyMan vs bear debate begins: Brian presents the viral TikTok question to the panel; Bobby chooses the bear

“going around the table would you rather come across a random man or a bear in the woods”

QuoteSky argues men would commit SA if there were no consequences, saying it is a 'natural inclination for men to want to dominate women'

“I feel like it's a natural inclination for men to want to dominate women and be aggressive”

QuoteKaren reveals triple-digit body count: 'my husband knocked the hoe out of me'

“that's all I'm going to give you it's a high three digit but it's up there I'm a recovered sex addict so I'll just put that out there my husband knocked the hoe out of me that's how I put it”

QuoteBrian cites first fatal California black bear attack on a 71-year-old woman after panel chose bear over man; 'y'all will go to a bar filled with random men and hook up with random men'

“rest in peace a woman first fatal bear attack in California so this is local to us here in California y'all will go to a bar filled with random men y'all will go home and hook up with random men that's what's crazy to me”

QuoteAlyssa reveals the man she dated after separating from husband is now in a relationship with a trans woman who has a penis; debates whether that makes him gay/bisexual

“someone that I was with is now dating a trans woman who has a penis so is that gay do you think that's bisexual”

QuoteTavia objects to the recurring 'would a man date a sex worker' discussion framing; shares two men have already proposed to her despite her OnlyFans work

“I had two people proposed to me already and I've said no and I do sex work and they didn't see me any differently based on that”

QuoteBrian explains his objection to OnlyFans GFE: creators 'become very well practiced in deception and manipulation' by running chatters while advertising personal connection

“you commit fraud by saying I'm talking to you you become very well versed in fraud and lying”

QuoteAndrew Wilson joins show as call-in guest; introduces himself as political analyst and Blood Sport debater from The Crucible channel

“political analyst and I'm a Blood Sport debater I appreciate Brian having me on I was scheduled for tonight I'm here a little bit late”

QuoteJuliet concedes men have the burden in first date dynamics: the man has to convince her to sleep with him; she just has to exist and be polite

“definitely it's more on the man I would say because the women I feel at least in my experience I don't really have to do anything besides just kind of existing and show up and being basically polite and friendly and the guy just he's the one who has to kind of convince me to sleep with him”

QuoteBobby admits white people being bullied/called racial slurs at her predominantly minority school; Sky argues this does not count as racism (prejudice + power framework)

“I was a white girl and I went to a school where white people were the minority and I experienced racism”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions (name/age/location/occupation)

Brian intro; each guest introduces themselves in order: Bobby Lavender (30, Louisiana, OnlyFans), Tavia (22, PA, model/OnlyFans), Alyssa (27, Austin TX, realtor), Sky (24, San Diego, environmental health specialist), Juliet (38, Denver CO, marketing), Karen (45, West Hollywood, writer/comedian), Madison (19, SBCC, Whatever staff).

Relationship status round

Each guest shares current relationship status, how long single, and longest relationship. Bobby: 3-year monogamish relationship. Tavia: 3-month talking stage, previously single since November. Alyssa: legally separated, getting divorced (NPD husband, 2 kids). Sky: always been single, only e-relationship (3 days). Juliet: single/celibate 4 years since 7-year relationship. Karen: married 10 years (husband was meant to be one-night stand in Alaska). Discussion of monogamish dynamics and open relationships.

Alyssa's divorce / NPD husband

Alyssa discloses legally separated, filing for divorce. Husband suspected NPD per therapist. Two kids ages 1 and 2. Filed for divorce during first pregnancy; unexpectedly pregnant again 3 months later. Husband abandoned family; filed missing person report during newborn period. Husband dodging divorce service; now dating someone new. Discussion of TX child support maximums (~$2300/month for 2 kids).

Bisexual men / would you date a bisexual man

Brian asks panel if they would date a bisexual man. Tavia: yes (is bisexual). Bobby: no (hygiene concern). Alyssa: no (wants masculine man). Sky: no. Karen: no (has been with some unknowingly, didn't bother her then). Debate about whether pegging makes a man bisexual. Alyssa says she would peg a man but not date a bisexual man.

Sky's celibacy / waiting until marriage

Sky (24) has never been in a real relationship; now practicing celibacy and considering waiting until marriage. Discussion of whether switching to celibacy after sexual history is valid or a 'raw deal' for men. Panel discusses compatibility issues when one partner becomes religious mid-relationship.

Self-ratings (looks, face and body 1-10)

Brian asks each guest to rate face and body separately on 1-10 scale (no 7s allowed). Bobby: natural 10 face, body 6. Tavia: face 9, body 10 (hates her nose). Alyssa: face 5-6, body 8-9. Sky: face 5-6, body 9. Juliet: face 8, body 8. Karen: face 8, body 8. Madison: face 6.9, body 8. Brian: face 5, body 4.5 (admits needing to lose weight). Armpit hair debate: Bobby reveals she does not shave armpits. Chat reaction discussed.

Armpit hair debate / Bobby's grooming choices

Brian asks chat and panel if Bobby's unshaved armpit hair is a dealbreaker. Discussion of leg hair (Bobby does not shave legs either, fine blonde hair). Bobby shares stripper clients who were attracted to her armpit scent. Panel discusses pheromone attraction.

Man vs bear viral debate

Panel discusses the viral 'would you rather meet a random man or a bear in the woods' question. Bobby, Sky, and others discuss choosing the bear based on predictability. Brian challenges logic with zoo/bathroom hypotheticals. Discussion of SA statistics, what percentage of men would victimize given no consequences. Reference to woman killed by bear in California (first fatal Black bear attack). Discussion of transgender bathroom safety.

Body count round

Maddie (co-host) asks body count question. Karen: triple digits (recovering sex addict). Bobby: 50-100 (~80% male, 20% female). Tavia: over 40, under 60. Alyssa: ~6 (mostly long-term relationships). Sky: low count. Discussion of bisexuality, men who have had same-sex experiences, and what constitutes gay behavior. Debate about past guy going down on other men and Alyssa's dating a man now with a trans woman (penis).

Pre-show notes: modern feminism harms relationships (Juliet)

Brian reads Juliet's pre-show note: modern feminism harms men and women, keeps both from what they seek in long-term partnership. Juliet expands: second-wave feminism contributed to hookup culture; sex means different things to men vs women biologically (dopamine/vasopressin vs oxytocin). Discussion of who identifies as feminist; Brian's definition of feminism as women's advocacy not equality movement. Jordan Peterson quote on equal opportunity vs guaranteed outcome.

Sex work / dating a sex worker

Tavia's pre-show note: objects to framing 'would a man date a sex worker' as unusual question. Brian explains why dating sex workers is suboptimal (practised deception/manipulation via GFE fraud, lying about chatters). Panel discusses whether OnlyFans is easy or hard work. Body count and sex worker identity discussion.

Abortion / reproductive rights

Discussion of Texas abortion restrictions and women's medical care access. Brian argues abortion banning is not evidence of gender inequality since men have no reproductive rights. Panel debates equality framing of reproductive rights.

Andrew Wilson calls in (political analyst / debater)

Andrew Wilson (The Crucible host) joins as call-in guest. Introduces himself as political analyst and Blood Sport debater. Debates various topics with panel including feminism, male leadership, traditional roles.

Dating dynamics: male burden / who has harder time dating

Sky disagrees with framing that men have a burden in dating. Extended debate: Brian lists all male obligations in dating (approach, lead conversation, ask for number, plan date, pay, close). Panel acknowledges men are rejected far more than women. Andrew Wilson explains 'burden' means social obligation not that it is burdensome. Sky made Tinder at 17 to gain experience after getting no male attention in high school.

Age gap relationships

Sky objects to age-gap relationships on value-diminishment grounds. Karen is 9 years older than her husband (35-36 vs 45). Juliet has dated men 7+ years older. Brian notes younger women complain young men avoid commitment. Andrew Wilson weighs in on age gap dynamics.

Can you be racist toward white people / racism debate

Bobby shares experience being bullied/called racial slurs as a white minority at her school. Sky argues whites cannot experience racism (prejudice + power definition). Andrew challenges Sky's framework using logical consistency. Bobby ultimately concedes that whites experiencing racism does not have systemic effect. Karen notes she has seen racism directed at her white husband. Andrew points out Bobby's earlier framing justified racist behavior.

Roast segment and wrap-up

Short TTS roast segment at $25 trigger. Various viewer roasts read aloud. Chat donates, panel reacts. Brian closes show with thank-yous.

Transcript

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Skyyou're still with him comfortable I wasn't with him okay uh he was the guy that I went on five dates with and on what date did he reveal that right have

Skyto know he he didn't unveil that uh until recently he unveiled it like are you still talking I got with him in like

Sky2020 and then uh uh since then he's just reached out to me a few times I reached out to him today because I wanted to see

Brian Atlashow he's doing but why okay um anyways uh you said you disagree with the hosts dating expectations so what

Skyare those so necessarily um when you say the burdens of like

Skydating and primarily being on the guy yeah um I think that the guy chooses essentially who he wants to be with and

Skythe woman has to like acques to that like a woman does not set the tone of the relationship by being the one that wants

Skyto engage like she may desire the relationship but he's the one that ultimately decides okay we're going to be

Brian Atlastogether well I don't understand what does that have to do with what does that have to do with uh my dating Expectations dating expectations I think

SkyI was saying it along the lines of you were framing it as though men have this

Skytremendous burden or this um inequitable burden to date in the dating realm that you know they have

Brian Atlasto pursue the woman they have to do do you disagree with that you don't think men have to be initiators and typically

Skyhave to I just don't think of it as a burden I of it yeah uh have you ever approached a guy yes yeah several times same do you have any like anxiety when

Skyyou do that there's no I mean there's definitely emotions involved but I don't think I think the more that you've done it the less sensitive you are to it sure

Karendepends on whether or not you're a submissive woman or a dominant woman cuz if you're an aggressor you're going to go after the guy I go after the guy I don't wait for the guy to come to me but I'm also very particular the type of guys that I like

Skyso so you disagree that it's a Burden Burden I don't think I think the phrasing of it being a burden means that

Skylike it's a negative experience going into it when in reality how many how many men have you rejected throughout your

Brian Atlaslife o I can't no no no let me ask these other girls here how many men would you say you've rejected throughout the course of your life oh thousands yeah probably thousands every every DM you don't respond to if you've

Brian Atlashad the dating app every message you don't respond to uh any guys who've ever approached you uh at a bar or a club or

Brian Atlasat school whatever it is uh thousands thousands yeah a lot yeah how many times have you been rejected one time one time what about you twice how many how many guys would you say

Taviayou've rejected a lot thousands sure thousands maybe hundreds I don't know about thousands um you have you ever been rejected no how

Skymany how many uh men have you rejected H my is oh that's right oops uh I've probably rejected around like 20

Brian Atlasmen total have you ever been on a dating app oh God you've rejected a lot more than 20 men if you've been on a dating app uh have

Brian Atlasyou ever been rejected yes okay how many times at least like 20 okay all right what about you how many times have you rejected men if you include Instagram

Brian AtlasDMS and stuff sure yeah Instagram DMS a lot Okay thousands throughout the course of your life thousands I mean maybe if you include the internet yeah include the internet bars clubs men approaching

Brian Atlasyou what about you yeah same thousands thousands Madison hundreds uh so if you're a man and say

Brian Atlasthat you're and actually I mean a success rate of like 10% of the women you talk to you end up sleeping with that's a very high success rate for a

Brian Atlasman how could that not be a burden if you have to talk to 10 women and get you know make an effort make an initiative make an ATT attt who knows how far you

Skycould you could take those 10 women on dates even and it not go anywhere how could that not be a burden it's not necessarily a burden I'd say not a

Skyburden that's the selection pool you go into dating with the idea that okay this is a potential mate this is a potential but it's not guaranteed but if we're

Brian Atlascomparing so we're doing a comparison here between men and women yeah right so the experiences of men compared to the experiences of women if all of these

Brian Atlasburdens fall on men approaching carrying the conversation soliciting a first date soliciting the phone number setting up the date carrying and leading the conversation on the date paying for the

Brian Atlasdate uh moving things forward physically moving things forward sexually closing the distance Gap going for the kiss etc etc these are all individual points

Skywhere men potentially face rejection and women face rejection via like uh their assert of femininity and I don't even

Skyknow what that means like okay like say for instance uh you're not as receptive to a move that a guy makes but you're still very much interested in him uh

Julietthat could be taken what do you mean yeah yeah you're not making sense CU if I'm interested in a guy I'm not going to reject a move that he makes right and and like when you say you're of of into the mics guys if you're the the assessment of

Skyfemininity what is what does that mean meaning like there's certain dating practices that both men and women have to uphold

Skyand uh a woman asserting her

Skyfeminine woman and

Skyuh [ __ ] my phrasing on this is not great but um

Skywomen have to mentally brace themselves for like um responding to men and

Skybeing attractive being their idea of what a girlfriend should be um trying

Skyto uh forecast his actual um responsiveness to you as a person because uh some times guys will go into

Skyrelationships and they look for women that don't show them as much attention um because they want I'm sorry I got to cut you off I don't know what you're can you arrive at the point here like make an actual

Bobby Lavenderargument I don't know can I say something sure I think that the counter burden to what you're talking about is

Bobby Lavenderlike the the danger of actually dating and going with some guy you don't know like you don't know their intentions and I mean I've had really bad experiences with going on dinner

Brian Atlasdates where it didn't actually end in dinner so it's definitely a burden okay so we can talk about these uh I mean I'm

Brian Atlastalking about like normal psychology here like I'm not talking

Brian Atlasabout yeah okay there's a fear that women have of being assaulted but let's talk about like let's say the girl's normal the guy's

Brian Atlasnormal who has the burden there I would say like healthy Dynamics we can talk about like abnormal psychology and people who are [ __ ] up

Julietand people who' be inclined to victimize to you let's talk about just otherwise healthy first date definitely it's more on the man I would say because the women I feel at least in my experience and there have

Julietbeen exceptions to but overall I don't really have to do anything besides just kind of existing and show up and being basically polite and friendly um and the

Julietguy just he's the one who has to kind of convince me to sleep with him yes exactly he does get to decide whether or not we are in a committed relationship for sure but I actually have a fair

Julietamount of control over where that goes if the man is truly interested in me in my experience so I mean you guys could be very much right

Skyum I mainly just disagreed with the phrasing of it as being a burden um but I can understand why it would be

Andrew Wilsonconsidered a burden for men to go through all those lengths and then not and then get rejected well well hang on in this in this case in this context

Andrew Wilsonwhen he's saying burden he's not saying burden isn't burdensome necessarily but what the obligation or social obligation of that's that's what kind of that means

Andrew Wilsonin that context of Burden who has the burden to pay for the date doesn't necessarily mean that it's burdensome that a man pays for the date but we're just asking who do you think has kind of

Karenthe obligation that's that's what that means in that context okay I honestly I think that's something that should be on the rise to change especially with all women talking about oh I want equality

Skyand this and then the well if you want equality then pay for half the goddamn date put your card out on the table when it's time to pay instead of go to the bathroom um like most women do in my

Skyexperience with dating I've been cons I'm considered a modern woman um I don't necessarily expect the guy to pay for

Skythe date um and dates that I've been on I've paid for myself before um but most recently I say was a

Skytraditional experience where I went out with a guy and he paid for everything um and he didn't expect me to um how question how many times have you had

Brian Atlasthat experience once okay um any women here like have any women here been on like more than one date

Brian Atlaswhere the guy took care of everything yes mhm what what do you guys think is more common the man taking care of everything or the woman taking care of everything the man the man I've never

Brian AtlasI've never been on a date with a girl I ever could have gone in with the expectation that she was going to pay for the whole thing has never happened in my entire life never it's either split or I pay the the that's it the way

KarenI've dated in the past before I was married was if I invite the guy out then I'm going to expect to pay because I invited him I extended the the invitation so if I say hey let's go to a movie or let me take you out to dinner

Karenthen I'm going to pay why because I invited him out because I want to that I'm not saying that you know if he decides oh no no let me pay or let me pay for half yeah I'm going to let him because he's taking the initiative to want to do more but that doesn't

Karennecessarily mean that everything's always on the guy and I think that's the narrative that should change is that it shouldn't always be on the guy because guys shouldn't necessarily have to be burdened with all of it he just saying as of right now the burden is typically

Skyno for sure that's I know I agree with him and burden doesn't even like he was saying it's just it just translate to responsibility well yeah but I don't think even in my experience and this is

Skya very unique experience uh the burden of conversation is necessarily on the guy meaning I have to engage intellectually with him uh bring up

Brian Atlastopics of conversation keep things interesting and not just you know like kind of if I did what most women do on the first date there would be [ __ ] dead

Brian Atlassilence on the first like I'm telling you women are not prepared to carry the conversation on the first date are you some women are some women are good

Brian Atlasconversation some women are good conversation however like if I if if I were to like if I were to just be silent and kind of like wait for to see

Brian Atlaswhat the woman does it would be really [ __ ] awkward conversationally it would be really awkward here let's play Let's play that we're on a date okay I'm

Skygon be a chick Okay Go Okay uh what do you do for work podcaster oh interesting so how long have you been doing that for two years

Skytwo years and uh have you ever considered any career changes or nope I like what I do you like what you do I like what I do too do you have who are these girls Brian who are these girls

Bobby Lavenderlike that tell me tell me you've never had a conversation like this with a guy I typically am the one rambling yeah the first thing that we talk about should not be like what we do for work

Bobby Lavenderto be honest well that's La if you're in La that's that's why my actual interest and like personality and well I mean that takes work that takes emotional

Skylabor um I thought we were still having our convers we're going to move on you weren't interested you weren't interested in my conversation uh so you said that when you were 17 you made a Tinder to gain experience with guys

Skybecause you didn't get any attention from guys in school in high school yeah you guess you weren't their type even though I went to school with like 7,000 kids I went yeah so I never got

Skyapproached by a guy in high school no I'm well I'm more focused on the making a Tinder at 17 well I mean uh isn't that against the rules or that it against the

Alyssarules and it's dangerous and it's dangerous but I did it anyway yeah no kidding you're putting you're putting lots of men at risk yeah yeah I mean some states it's IL legal age like I know in Louisiana

Brian Atlasyou can be 17 but still it's still I've always been in California anyways um disavow that but you said you believe that you kind of ruined your youthful experience by forcing yourself to

Brian Atlasexperiment I think you've always been hypersexual and the fact that I didn't get attention in school made you act out

Skyand seek male validation online yes um I think that um me not experiencing like

Skyan organic relationship with a guy uh in my youth really informed my relationships with men going into my 20s

Skybecause uh I didn't really have any male friends I didn't have any males that were seeking my uh attention um and if

Skythey were they weren't making it obvious that they were seeking my attention um so I and I I'm I'm not going to talk

Skyabout it because it's TOs um but I've been hypersexual from a fairly young age like I've

Skyum I've known what porn was for a very long time and so I knew exactly the the ways around like the body and I

Brian Atlaswas very curious to all right okay okay um moving on you said that your main contention with age Gap relationships is that the value of both men and women diminish in societ as they age and

Brian Atlaspeople of similar value should be together people that are older cannot sustain themselves as long as the youth can yeah so do you object to age Gap relationships um yes for the most part

Brian Atlasokay so is anybody here in an age Gap relationship me what's your what's your relate nine years I'm older oh you're

Alyssaolder and you're so you're 45 and he's 3 four 35 3 35 36 and then what about you yeah everyone I've dated except the last

Brian Atlasguy I gave a chance has been seven plus years older my husband's 41 okay uh so Andrew is probably Keen to uh weigh in on this but what are your uh I guess

Skyyour actual objections to age Gap relationships I express that the value uh that you're going to put in a relationship as you get older is going

Alyssato change uh and it's going to be less or more I think it's less we as you get older isn't it wait in the eye of the beholder because I love like some older men let

Brian Atlasme tell you I like some young well one of the complaint one of the complaints I hear from younger women like women who are in college 18 19 20 21 is they say these men don't want commitment they

Brian Atlasjust want to [ __ ] they're [ __ ] boys uh it seems to me that younger men tend to lean towards not being a little bit

Skymore opposed to Commitment than men who

Skyare a bit older uh I would disag agree um I think that um younger men are

Skyprobably less likely to say that they want a relationship with a girl because

Skyum they have nerves about them I don't know I don't know why men or why people think that younger men don't want

Skyrelationship ship with women I think it's based on topics like we talked about promiscuity so we're in a culture

Skywhere promiscuity is on the rise and um your intentions with somebody may be

Skya skew so I in my encounters with men that I've had they're very much open to relationships it's just a matter of

Skyposition and place and the person that they're looking for and not necessarily didn't you say you've been single your whole life yes well I mean if you're meeting all

Brian Atlasthese men that are open to having relationships what has precluded you from having a relationship I'm not meeting a bunch of men that are interested in me necessarily or okay

Brian Atlasthat's fair well let's bring it back to age Gap though so I'm still can you explain a little better kind of your objections there sorry yeah other than it just being icky which but why is it

Karenicky yeah why is it icky everyone's of legal consenting age right I I didn't meet my husband when he was in high school I met when he was a grown man

Skyum I think does it give you the ick it gives you the ick it gives me the ick it gives you the ick doesn't it because I've always

Skyexperienced uh the world where people of a similar age have a similar outlook on life and you once you cross cross a certain

Skyboundary threshold that changes and it could take lead to people being taken advantage of um even if they're legal

Brian Atlasthese young women are taking advantage of these men with resources they're they're they're fleecing them for money you're right these young women are Predator who's who's taking well in my my instance for example who's taking

Karenadvantage of who then am I taking advantage of my husband cuz he's younger or is he taking advantage of me because I'm older um it could be a situation of both of you taking advantage of each other how how is that what do you mean taking

Skyhow does that work he's taking advantage of the fact that you're older and you probably have less options Advantage isn't bad what do you mean shots fire first of all wait wait first of all L options for a potential mate that's not

Karentrue at all cuz I'm a [ __ ] I'm a I'm a grab okay that's first and foremost secondly just because I'm not years older than my husband does not mean that I have less options if him and I broke up tomorrow or if he died tomorrow trust

Skyme I'm going to be riding some dick eventually in a week or two okay but it's it's a matter of my God I'm just basing facts facts are facts okay so do

Karenyou think that you would find a man of similar value to him at your age absolutely someone that is your age I don't date men my age why not because I

Karendate men that are are younger than me for a particular reason why because they can keep up with me advantage of the age that's your advantage that is that is one down old older men cannot keep up

Karenwith someone like me I'm a hyper [ __ ] so if you can't keep up then I have no use for you so there's no Advantage being taken if especially if I'm older you would think that I would be taken

Karenadvantage of him right Advantage I mean don't I don't think taking advantage is necessarily I'm not forcing him to have sex with me wants to have sex with me there's no there's no taking advantage of I'm not holding my husband by the

Taviaheadage for you because he's younger and you get the sex you want cuz you're crazy in the B you know so it's Advantage and it's not bad right it's not a bad Advantage Advantage but I wasn't carrying his books home for him

Alyssafor school at school when he was 17 I wasn't saying that [ __ ] I was just saying I'm in favor of older men obviously but playing de Devil's Advocate it can be the case that

Alyssapredatory people pick younger people because they're easier to manipulate and they are naive and they're easier to mold and control that is absolutely a thing but I don't think

Alyssayou can say that that's just broadly every Dynamic like that and it's not hang on hang on hang on do you have a study for that do you I have an example

Andrew Wilsonthough made claim hang on who made the claim okay so let me let me pull a you hang on you just said I don't think that that's generally what's going on I I don't think it's do you have any

Andrew Wilsonempirical evidence to back that up at all she just said she doesn't want to make generalizations because not every relationship that was she literally said I don't think generally that's what's

Andrew Wilsongoing on no no no I don't think generally that's what's going on right you don't do you have any empirical evidence whatsoever to support that you generally don't you want me to write you a thesis and come back and tell you I'm

Andrew Wilsonnot asking for a thesis I'm asking he there's a reason I'm asking this because earlier you jumped all over Brian hang on let me finish you jumped all over Brian and you were all kinds of

Andrew Wilsonupset with him because he was not demonstrating empirical evidence to go with a generalized statement and yet here hang on you made a claim and you said generally I don't think that's

Alyssawhat's going on and you also have no empirical evidence whatsoever to back that claim up correct I think it's actually backwards I think y'all were the ones that got upset and like muted me I was like happy to debate it um I

Alyssawasn't upset at all like I I like to debate and and further my understanding of things by hearing opposite sides so like I'm not upset just because we may not come to the same conclusion but you

Alyssawanted data with any with any topic am I going to just have like the best debate thing prepared like no I would there's some things that if it's being uh presented to you for the first time you

Andrew Wilsonmull it over talk in generalities right yeah I mean I'm not going and that's okay to do right and so so maybe asking for empirics when if you're not uh if you're not prepared to have my studies

Andrew Wilsonready in a moment's notice if it's okay for you to do then it's okay for us to does that sound fair yeah but sometimes things are like common sense and I'm just saying I don't that's what he say I just genuinely don't think that's the

Andrew Wilsoncase but I admit that it's my antidotal experiences sure yeah yeah so I'm just saying that if you know what's good for the goose is good for the gander right so when so instead of like trying to trash us for

Andrew Wilsonnot having empirical evidence just remember that you often speak in generality without having any either so yeah I mean yeah sure but if I had like a Jamie I'm sure he could pull up like there's got to be studies on people yeah

Andrew Wilsonknow I know what I'm saying generally speaking generally speaking yeah generally do you have a study for if you generally had a Jamie that you would pull up the

Andrew Wilsonright oh my God so anyway back to AR when you're talking about the ick the I it gives you the ick me are you talking to me yeah yeah yeah the ick it gives

Andrew Wilsonyou the ick you you you wouldn't say though that it's an immoral thing right it's not actually [Music] immoral

SkyI oh [ __ ] I think it isn't immoral because it's legal and it's there's no

Karenum I haven't I don't think I can make a justification for why why is it icky why do you find it ick why is it what about it is ick what about me having sex with

Karena guy who's 36 and I'm 45 what does that what's what's the factor there do you want me to be like no holds bar do it yeah let's go find out let's go um I

Skythink it just points to a despiration in both parties for a sense of except you've been you've been single your entire life

Karenwhat and I've been married for 10 years to the same guy but continue let's not always get defensive and start like I'm making a point I'm making she's been single her whole life so with what

Karenexperience and what you know where with all knowledge do you have on this topic she's an obser okay but earlier we were talking about only fans and you don't have only fans right but you can still have an opinion on it so you don't

Skyalways have to have her experience y' be nice be nice I don't know I just like is that not a valid enough reason really I see your I mean that like you can

Andrew Wilsonimagine from from a if you were to say take a Conservative Christian for instance and you were to lay all of his moral intuitions on things that gave him the ick and called that moral that that

TTS/Donationswould lead to all sorts of things being imoral you probably wouldn't donated $200 so then guys who date older women have mommy issues and are overall weird men generally age like

TTS/Donationswine and women generally age like bananas age Gap is perfectly normal when guy is older I would love to see a picture you Mr Mr meall send a picture

Brian Atlasshe wants to have carnal knowledge with you you look she wants you romantically and sexually Mr meall but she needs a photo first also not to mention women of

Karenmelanated color do not age like bananas thank you very much that is true it is true OB white women age like bananas anybody are you not ugly you're just

Brian Atlaspoor no well no Kylie Jen hold on more like plantains yeah yeah like is it not bananas but

Karenplantains I don't know okay uh right like for example MD MD's Asian I'm Hispanic and black we we don't we don't age the same we don't age the same oh my God no that's true that there there are

Alyssastudies on that that melanin does make you age better that is a real thing about this oh I just made the [ __ ] up white don't blight white don't blight white don't blight you're so stupid what does that mean you know you don't know

Andrew Wilsonwhat blight is white don't blight hold on let me Google this [ __ ] just to make sure I'm giving that would be correct the blight yeah like you're talking about blight like lights and [ __ ] like

Brian Atlasthat a thing that spoils or damages um uh yeah so we're all spoiled if we're oh my no that's not what I'm saying he he was trying to make a joke

Brian Atlasoh okay sorry it's don't it's hard to tell sometimes when I got the joke that yeah okay um I I'm going to move things on a little bit here going to Karin sir

Brian Atlasyou said I can personally guarantee that you haven't had any women like me on your show I have no problem in laying into people especially if they're just morons than need to be taken down a peg or two true I know I have some invaluable dating advice and I'll lead

Karenwith this one uh never believe your parents or the advice they give you about sex or dating yeah absolutely what that's wild uh yeah because I mean let's go back to back in

Karenthe day I'm talking about before the internet I mean I grew up without the internet I grew up without any GPS or anything like that so of course your parents are trying to protect you and tell you certain things about dating and

Karentell you who are who and what not to date cuz back in the day for sure they're trying to keep you like for example straight and narrow yeah well not even straight and narrow like culturally a lot of cultures will be like date within your own culture I'm

Karennot dating Spanish men because there's some I could be related to one of them I'm not trying to do that but further the likelihood of that happening though I mean it's happened it's happened if you're from a small island it's happened

Karenyou've dated a cousin I'm I I haven't but you know if you go if you're coming from a place like Haiti Puerto Rico Jamaica there's been a chance that you dated someone that you're somewhat related to that's it's happened it's

Karengoing to happen you know with if you're only staying within your culture and it your culture is literally an island this big the chances of you dating a fourth a third cousin has probably happened okay but how does that apply to parental

Karenadvice for because your your parents are going to guide you to do things moralistically as far as like church values things like that you know if you if you grow up religious your parents are going to tell you not to have sex

Karenbefore marriage now parents I don't think that's good I'd like to know I I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I marry like I'm not like I made this point earlier today with the girls

Alyssawas you you chest out the product before you buy it no my grandmother literally taught us you you Tred the milk before you buy the cow so I don't know who y'all's parents are maybe it's like a Louisiana thing and they're they are

Andrew Wilsoncrazy in Louisiana but for the most part A lot of the people that I I've known yeah but that's that's advice towards men they're not supposed to give that advice to women the advice is supposed to be for men you go and you test out

Alyssathe cow before you buy the cow cow is female they say go test out the bull she didn't say go test out the bull no no that she actually no she had this thing hanging and it said both thing it said don't buy the pig before you test the

Alyssasausage too swear to God it said both things I swear to God I I need to know what kind of sausage I'm getting before I before I buy it Grandma crazy they are the whole family my mom used to tell me if you're ever going to smoke weed just

Taviacome to me instead I don't want you smoking cigarettes I'm like damn dude that's crazy if I if I was talking to a guy for like 3 years and then we got married and then we and then we waited to have sex and his and he couldn't

Taviaplease me then I would honestly probably end up in a divorce because what what if he was like good to you and every way though but if you couldn't if you couldn't please me sexually that's a

Karenhuge Factor like sex is a huge Factor like my grandmother told me if you want to if you want if you want to keep a white guy cup his balls while you're sucking his dick that's what she said oh

Taviamy God my most recent that is no lie actually I just I just ran into that that's what grandma said Grandma said I want to know the stat of how many men have affairs on their wives that they

Andrew Wilsonmarried in virgins uh it's actually quite low so your chance of divorce Dr ially go down if you get married as a virgin male and a virgin female your chances of stepping outside your marriage go drastically

Andrew Wilsondown as well is not a problem anybody at this table is ever going to have but uh it is you know for it that that is what the stats

Karenshow okay well so what is wrong though with like parents trying to guide their children in like the right direction sometimes they sometimes parents can guide you in the wrong direction for example if you grow up in a super

Karenreligious home and you're taught as a man not to masturbate because masturbating is bad or that you know self-love or self-care is bad that guy is not going to really know what the [ __ ] he's doing later on in life when

Andrew Wilsonhe's trying to get involved in a relationship sexually I think people figure it out yeah but I mean that's the point the the whole point is to uh attempt to keep a person chased in order

Andrew Wilsonto keep their virtue intact so I mean like from from your perspective I understand what you're saying you're saying look um for me I want sexual Liberation and this type type of thing but I mean for most parents they're

Andrew Wilsongoing to want to try to keep you away from a bad crowd they're going to try to keep your virtues intact your reputation intact because that does actually matter in life it is part of success in life is

Andrew Wilsonvirtue and that is a thing that used to be part of that whole culture you're talking about pre- internet same culture I grew up in and virtues did matter and you know what here's the thing everyone

Andrew Wilsonknew who the skanks were in high school and we didn't treat them that great that's just the truth didn't treat them that great and um yeah yeah they didn't they didn't have it great just saying so

Andrew WilsonI understand why parents would lean towards trying to keep those virtues intact for both uh their sons and their daughters it made it makes a lot of sense I mean I'm of the opinion and my

Skydad convinced me of this just getting older that the word of your parents is like the word of God and unless they touch you then what okay well we can't get into that

Taviawe're not going to get into that on the on the podcast on YouTube I just like don't like the the derogatory words that are used for women that are like to have

Taviasex because like there's women like like myself that have been through horrible sexual experiences and that's going to make you act in a way when you're a child and you don't know any better in a

Andrew Wilsonway that people could label you but that doesn't Define you as a whole person just because you like well let's um let's Grant it for a second and say say yes that's correct there could be women who have emotional issues due to some

Andrew Wilsontype of horrific experiences that they have in their childhood there's plenty of women who have no horrific experiences early in their childhood and are often also promiscuous why can't

Taviathose labels be used towards those women I just feel like using like oh those women weren't treated well as an excuse to like it's just for [ __ ]

Taviabehavior for I I don't think that's fair to treat some like because what about the men that are whing around how did those men get treated yeah but that's about get stop stop just stop for a

Andrew Wilsonsecond you're making a typical what about the mindo argument so let's start let's start first not what about the mindo why is everybody not mad at the men let's start with the first claim

Andrew Wilsonwhich I don't like the fact that Society will use and by the way women do this to women far more than men do well the first derogatory thing a woman does to another woman is call her um yeah that's

Andrew Wilsonthe first thing that they do they they that's what they do mean so the thing is hang on hang on so the thing is is like yes these things uh the reason that these terms are used you could say

Andrew Wilsonstrumpet Lady of the night right whatever you want to say they're pointing out not doesn't have virtue that's what they're pointing out not virtuous and and it's a really easy way

Andrew Wilsonto use a word to just go no virtue that's that's why it's used that way

Alyssayou stumped you have resp can I Andrew do you hold do you hold the same views towards like do you find men who are have like high body counts less uh

Andrew Wilsondesirable or like they have less value do you do it the same way well so so like so look so let's dive into this so there's a little bit of nuance here I think what you're asking me is do I

Andrew Wilsonthink that men who are promiscuous also have lower virtue my answer is yes I think that they have lower virtue as

Andrew Wilsonwell but not less value in the dating Market it seems that women don't have the same preferences that men do when it comes to a higher body Camp they don't

Andrew Wilsonseem to care as much about it in fact they often seem to want to compete for men who have higher body counts because they have women all over them and that's what they're competing over so women don't have to compete for hierarchy but

Andrew Wilsonthey do have to compete with each other to grab somebody inside of a hierarchy so that's been General human conditioning so women are always competing with each other so if women see other women gravitating towards a single man they tend to compete more for

Andrew Wilsonthat man so it doesn't actually lower their value in the dating Marketplace but I think it lowers their value as far as virtue goes I was just curious your stance on it in general but also women will

Alyssacompete for married men too they see a ring on a man's finger them more yes exactly but that's but that's the same thing you're talking about you're saying they're competing with a man who another

Andrew Wilsonwoman desires and that makes them gravitate towards that man the same thing happens with women when they're um you know going after single men if they see that he gets a lot of female attention they tend to gravitate more towards him why do you think women are

Andrew Wilsonalways out with these ugly ass [ __ ] rock stars right they're always at because they're super desired by other women right even though they're ugly as Sin you know like MC Jagger's not a good

Andrew Wilsonguy but he's not he's not having trouble Steven Tyler ugly as Sin Steven Tyler is one of the ugliest men I probably ever seen he looks more like a woman than most women I know yeah but he's not

Taviahaving trouble picking up chicks dude Flavor Flav just think they have money but I bet if they were ugly and didn't have money then they probably wouldn't be able to get chicks I don't think so yeah I I well I agree point is why

Andrew Wilsonwhether the woman's gravitating towards him because he has money uh or they're gravitating towards him because he's good- looking it doesn't matter the fact that they're gravitating towards him does not seem to be a deterrent from other women it's a deterrent to

Andrew Wilsonme yeah I'm I mean I'm sure to some women but generally speaking yeah no I just in in generalities

Brian Atlasyeah wow good time to return what did I miss anything interesting I don't know not really uh going back to you you said you're 45 but you look 33 without a

Brian Atlasbucket of makeup yeah like when I that's what you were on uh you said you're married but not legally cuz that's stupid yep yeah you did say you were married for 10 years but not legally

Karenmarried so within the church or we went to um the little chapel in in Vegas so we just got married for us just to kind of resolidify our relationship and commitment to each other and the reason

Karenwhy we didn't do it legally is because I don't need the government tracking every our every move and I'd rather be independent with my own money he has his money if anything where to go sour or South between the two of us he can go

Karenhis way I can go my way we live in California where it's divided 50/50 my ambitions and Pursuits with my career could catapult me to be a multi-millionaire and then he's musician

Karenand same thing goes for him so why muck up our money together if especially nothing is forever nothing is for certain so I'd rather you know him protect his assets I protect mine yes

Brian Atlasnow you said that you're also a recovering sex addict with a high body count mhm uh and you said you didn't give us an exact number but you said it was three three digits is that correct

Brian Atlasokay uh you said you were dating strange men long before social media existed this is true you never knew if you would make it home from a date this is true and it was thrilling it was it was because it was a thrilling time it I

Karenmean look as as someone who was a sex addict I was involved in a lot of Reckless and very high endangerment situations because of where I came from

Karenfrom I suffered through a lot of childhood trauma um things that were categorically like unconceivable for most people I lost both my parents before I finished high school I've been

Karenon my own since I was 16 been through it all and with that being said when you get yourself involved I was never into like alcohol I've never been into drugs

Andrew Wilsonum none of those things were my vices gambling nothing can we back up just a second in your story um because you you were on your own since you were you're 16 sorry to hear that by the way that's

Andrew Wilsongot to suck but thanks you were saying earlier that you think that kids should dismiss their parents' advice but if your parents weren't in your life when you were that young wouldn't you have preferred to have had them around to get

Karentheir advice no because my parents were both Reckless people my mother my mother didn't give us any kind of structure she didn't give us any kind of rules if I

Andrew Wilsonwas going based off of her actions and things that she was doing um then I I would have just ended up like her and yeah sure but I mean surely you understand that most parents don't do that they're not they they love their

Andrew Wilsonchildren they definitely don't let them move out of the house when they're 16 years old and do all this right I mean yeah you're I in a in a perfect world you're absolutely right but when I mean that's most people most people's parents

KarenI I think genuinely care about them okay sure you don't think so that's not my that's not been my personal experience so I can't say for everybody else I I know a lot of other people who've had similar experiences to mine

Karenwhere their parents weren't necessarily giving them structure and rules and kind of guidelines in life so everyone's journey is different you know and we're yeah I mean I agree with that and I was being a little bit more sarcastic not

Andrew Wilsonnecessarily you know if you're if but if you're um if you're raised in a two- parent household generally speaking the outcomes or the things that you might consider good outcomes like higher

Andrew Wilsoneducation more stability um you know less priscu things like this uh those are generally considered to be decent outcomes I would say then they tend to go up astronomically if you have two

Andrew Wilsonparents in the household for the entirety of the child being in the household so I mean it seems like that's an optimal way to go right I would say it's also nurture versus nature because your environment and where you live and

Karenwhere you grow up also have a huge impact on that I I I've found in my personal experience that a lot of people from like bigger cities in like New York I'm from New York originally people more

Karenin the city are going to have a completely different type of Lifestyle than someone who grows up in Montana or Colorado even I feel like more of the core like Traditional Values are still

Karenin the midwest people attribute a lot more of that in the middle as a I think there's a lot more lawlessness even in those liberal Progressive cities um having a two- parent household still is

Andrew Wilsongoing to lead to what are generally considered good outcomes for children I didn't I have the benefit of having that I mean I always grew up in a one person I understand you didn't but why would you prescribe to others not to listen to

Backgroundtheir appearance if their outcomes seem to be so much better if they do I was [ __ ] around I mean she's a comedian I'm a comedian I'm a standup ComEd okay so you said you were a sex addict I'd like to get this why women shouldn't be

Brian Atlascomedians no I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm joking sorry I like you Andrew you're all right my I'm pretty I'm a likable guy so you said you were sex addict I'd

Brian Atlaslike a little more scope on that so uh when you what does that look like for you a sex addict was someone who was reckless in in in Pro promiscuity you

Karenknow what I mean like I sleep with the first person who was into me if I was into them obviously like I had my choice in who I wanted to sleep with or to even engage in any kind of sexual activity cuz body count doesn't necessarily mean

Karenpenetration for all of them obviously but um with that being said I would I would use sex as my coping mechanism if I was sad if I was depressed if I was

Karenangry if I was happy sex was my go-to thing to release that to en height to heighten that like if I had a good show or something I'm going to go [ __ ] somebody because it was a good show if I was depressed about a show I'd go [ __ ]

Brian Atlassomebody to make myself feel better that's what that looks like so let's say in a day what's the most amount of people you had sex with in a

Karenday o that's a dirty that's a dirty dirty question um I don't know couple maybe two three a day two three what about in like a week what's the most in a

Karenweek man I don't know if I if I remember that this was way back in like 2002 2003 give us a a range um in a week I don't know could be anywhere between 5 and 10

Karenin a week five and 10 okay what about in the month well if we're if we're taking if we're taking um the most in a month most in a

Brian Atlasmonth maybe 15 okay in a month all right I was just trying to get a scope or sense of the uh extent of the sex addiction you said

Brian Atlasthat uh if you're a woman under the age of 33 chances are you will think I'm a monster I can't stand the hypocrisy that defin a lot of women under the age 25 they want the world on the silver

Brian Atlasplatter but bring absolutely nothing to the table ask any woman under 25 what she wants in Life or from a man and you will find yourself a silent woman your words your words absolutely my words and I stand right by them because if you ask

Karena lot of women under the age of 2 what do you want out of life they're going to be deer and headlights and and and and it's I'm I'm no different I know I was the same I

Karendidn't know I didn't know what I wanted out of life I didn't know what I wanted out of a life partner I didn't know what I wanted out of my career I I wasn't I was unsure of these things because I wasn't fully developed most of us are

Brian Atlasnot fully developed until after 25 26 we haven't figured [ __ ] out yet you said that you're tired of women who have a victim mentality and white women tears yes what do you mean by white women tears white women tears the only reason

Karenwhy I use that is because that's synonymous with what the verbage online and what young people are using white woman tears being women who victimize themselves over nothing Example The Girl Who Cried that's white women tears she's

Karensting there crying because you asked her a [ __ ] qu you asked her a Define misogyny and she was just like like she was attacked the main

Backgroundvictim yeah she acted she straight up acted like Brian sexually assaulted her you say it it's how you said it that's what matters how you said it repeat that I said she acted as if you sexually

Karenassaulted her that's that's the look and the fear in her eyes in that that 10-second clip that I watched that's the look that she if you had given her the opportunity to go to the cops to report

Karenyes she probably would have you know and said he made me feel unsafe I didn't feel safe around him because he asked me a question you got you speaking of this I've actually never revealed this on the

Brian Atlasshow you should have seen the text messages she sent me afterwards oh I want to know oh my you mean DMS why did she had why did you

Brian Atlasgive her your number oh I mean it was uh like you know the messages like we do uh through Instagram and yeah no she sent messages after the show like Nick actually I think I showed them to Nick I

Karenshowed them to Maddie and she was being ridiculous did they sound like this you attacked me you made me feel uncomfortable and you humiliated me and

Karenyou made me feel like I wasn't important and I and my opinion doesn't matter yes he you're right those are those are usually my

Brian AtlasDMs not not Brian those are my DMs but yeah she she was uh that's great yeah she I'm trying she wanted us to take the

Brian Atlasvideo down but then she also demanded well okay as why woman tears uh so anyways you said you're completely against marriage before 30 and procreation in general I'm sure Andrew

Brian Atlashas some thoughts on this although just for the sake of time we can't linger too long but so you're against marriage before 30 right and you're against procreation so having kids I am and I

Karenwould say that's more res that opinion is more reserved for this generation for the new generation or like you know the zillennials or whatever you want to call gen z um and the only reason why I say

Julietthat is follow me are you okay I'm okay you're okay got like Tanya Harding at table oh okay I'm good yeah all right

Karenum you okay you sure yeah thank you I I I I don't I don't like where we're

Karenheaded as a society with with all this like the the best word I can use is the snowflake mentality like comedy is gone

Karenyou know we can't be funny anymore comedians have a hard time being able to get up on stage and make fun of [ __ ] that everyone can relate to without the fear of being canceled resorted to like self deprecation jokes because you're

Andrew Wilsononly allowed to talk about yourself but don't you think that a lot of that is because female comedians only know how to talk about their vagina and that's it I mean I do have a problem with that but I'm not one of them I mean that's like

Andrew Wilsonthat's like 99% of female comedians all they do on stage and talk about their vag no it's fair they're they're pretty bad they're pretty notun and they pretty much talk exclusively about their vagina

Andrew Wilsonit's very very odd it's a very odd phenomenon I actually didn't believe that until I went through Netflix and started watching female comedians I was like really that's all they talk about all right well I you haven't heard any

Karenof my stuff so you know to be fair yeah yeah yeah yeah sure but that's fair I mean yeah you're not wrong there are a lot of women who get up on stage and they talk about is sex and you know how they get men to [ __ ] them and whatnot

Karenit's because that's all they can relate to that's all they that's all a lot of them are relating to as far as what they think is funny or what they find yeah but they also me to the entire comedy industry what's that all these female

BackgroundComics went through and Meed the entire industry they Meed everybody I mean so I mean say something how in the hell did get canell they did they went through and me tooed the whole comic indry there

Backgroundwas a bunch of female comic were going around going oh I was sexually harassed by this guy and this dude jerked off in front of me and after I consented but blah blah blah blah blah blah blah after I consented he asked them and still can

Andrew Wilsonhim [ __ ] that's the [ __ ] that bothers me and that that goes back to what I was talking about the victim mentality how are so women ruined comedy is what I'm saying they ruined it they're the tone policers they're the ones who get offended they're the ones who are always

Andrew Wilsonwhining about everything they're always crying they can't take a joke nothing's ever funny everyone's always a victim thank you that broad statements of saying men do this and women do that

Andrew Wilsonit's just like diversity love diversity see what I mean that's the whole point right the the whole point of why it is that women get so offended you can't even have a

Backgroundconversation about General topics when no it's about diversity it's about inclusion it's about us being friends and holding [ __ ] hands and seeing K by us not about any of that [ __ ] jokes are supposed to be funny because they're

Brian Atlasa reflection of the truth of reality of society that's what makes them hilarious destroyed all of that they destroyed it sake of time I've got to move things on uh going to my notes Here for Bobby you

Brian Atlasuh okay you've been doing o for four years part-time cam girl gaming streamer for two former traveling stripper from when you were 18

Brian Atlasto 2020 uh you in an open relationship now for three years on Twitter are you you claim to be married

Bobby Lavenderwell you see I'm like you where I don't want to like get legally married but in my heart I'm married and like that's just me I don't want like cuz I'm not religious and I'm also not into the

Bobby Lavendergovernment being in my [ __ ] like you know M so I I say I'm married because I have so much faith in my relationship and I think that it will last forever so

Bobby LavenderI might as well just go ahead and start saying that he's my husband is it a common law marriage uh well we've only we lived together we moved in immediately um and things have been good

Bobby Lavenderlike we literally hardly ever have any kind of fights and when we do we have good commun well how long let's let me try again a different way how long have you been with this guy only three years that's what he said not so not common

Brian Atlaslaw because I think that's seven it depends on where you're at I don't know live together I think it's different in every different state so I have no idea yeah you said that you don't identify actually do we show that I don't think

Bobby LavenderAndrew is here he he would very much Andrew would very much like to know the status of the armpit hair oh it's alive and well but like it's it's not like I always

Bobby Lavenderhave armit hair I do shave sometimes just like you know down there I can you show Andrew there's a little bit of a toilet paper particles from me like

Brian Atlaswiping my like sweat in the bathroom nice and uh that's your thing you have the there's a couple photos on your Instagram you got the armpit hair I thought Andrew should know I thought

Andrew Wilsonjust so he has a better understanding of the Dynamics going on here uh there it is so what's the dynamic what is that armpit hair well it's kind of well you know like uh you got the armpit hair and the blue hair we might or purple here

Andrew Wilsonwhatever color it is you know we might draw some conclusions May perhaps you're one of the free baders you know what I mean like we it they there's kind of a stereotype that goes with the women who

Andrew Wilsonhave the colored hair and armpit hair Raging Raging feminist abely SMS like Puli she loves smell like Puli don't you ever say that

Brian Atlasabout me not since I was like I'm 20 okay but I used to love pachuli now you do say you don't identify as a feminist you do believe but you do believe in

Brian Atlashaving equal rights you have no real issue with patriarchy or more traditional roles men are supposed to lead and protect what you dislike is misogyny sexism and The Who is more

Brian Atlaspressed or who is the victim pissing contest it's comparing apples to oranges well I'll play that game men are more pressed than women but I don't really feel inclined to go into it but just

Brian Atlasthrowing that out there anyways the argument but I you know I will go into it if you want but eh well maybe later let me get through the notes I have you have a really bad date experience uh for

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