Armpit Hair Feminist HEATED DEBATE?! 100+ Body Count?! MASSIVE COPE?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #168

Date: 2024-06-10

Duration: 7h 24m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBobby Lavender >

AAlyssa (DT168)>

JJuliet (DT168)>

KKaren (DT168)>

MMadison (SBCC)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Tavia(guest)

SPEAKER_04Alyssa(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bobby Lavender(guest)

SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Karen(guest)

SPEAKER_13Sky(guest)

SPEAKER_14Juliet(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBobby Lavender introduces herself: 30yo, Louisiana, OnlyFans since pandemic, also cams on MyFreeCams

“hello my name is Bobby lavender I'm 30 years old just turned 30 I live in Louisiana I am on only fans for like four years now basically since the pandemic”

QuoteAlyssa discloses she is legally separated from NPD husband; two kids ages 1 and 2; filed for divorce February

“I officially filed in February I wanted out of my marriage the last several years Texas will not finalize divorces when you're pregnant and I was pregnant for 2 years in a row”

QuoteKaren reveals she married her husband who was intended as a one-night stand in Skagway Alaska; he was a friend of her then-hookup

“I married a one night stand he was supposed to be a one night stand and it turned into a 10-year relationship”

ControversyMan vs bear debate begins: Brian presents the viral TikTok question to the panel; Bobby chooses the bear

“going around the table would you rather come across a random man or a bear in the woods”

QuoteSky argues men would commit SA if there were no consequences, saying it is a 'natural inclination for men to want to dominate women'

“I feel like it's a natural inclination for men to want to dominate women and be aggressive”

QuoteKaren reveals triple-digit body count: 'my husband knocked the hoe out of me'

“that's all I'm going to give you it's a high three digit but it's up there I'm a recovered sex addict so I'll just put that out there my husband knocked the hoe out of me that's how I put it”

QuoteBrian cites first fatal California black bear attack on a 71-year-old woman after panel chose bear over man; 'y'all will go to a bar filled with random men and hook up with random men'

“rest in peace a woman first fatal bear attack in California so this is local to us here in California y'all will go to a bar filled with random men y'all will go home and hook up with random men that's what's crazy to me”

QuoteAlyssa reveals the man she dated after separating from husband is now in a relationship with a trans woman who has a penis; debates whether that makes him gay/bisexual

“someone that I was with is now dating a trans woman who has a penis so is that gay do you think that's bisexual”

QuoteTavia objects to the recurring 'would a man date a sex worker' discussion framing; shares two men have already proposed to her despite her OnlyFans work

“I had two people proposed to me already and I've said no and I do sex work and they didn't see me any differently based on that”

QuoteBrian explains his objection to OnlyFans GFE: creators 'become very well practiced in deception and manipulation' by running chatters while advertising personal connection

“you commit fraud by saying I'm talking to you you become very well versed in fraud and lying”

QuoteAndrew Wilson joins show as call-in guest; introduces himself as political analyst and Blood Sport debater from The Crucible channel

“political analyst and I'm a Blood Sport debater I appreciate Brian having me on I was scheduled for tonight I'm here a little bit late”

QuoteJuliet concedes men have the burden in first date dynamics: the man has to convince her to sleep with him; she just has to exist and be polite

“definitely it's more on the man I would say because the women I feel at least in my experience I don't really have to do anything besides just kind of existing and show up and being basically polite and friendly and the guy just he's the one who has to kind of convince me to sleep with him”

QuoteBobby admits white people being bullied/called racial slurs at her predominantly minority school; Sky argues this does not count as racism (prejudice + power framework)

“I was a white girl and I went to a school where white people were the minority and I experienced racism”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions (name/age/location/occupation)

Brian intro; each guest introduces themselves in order: Bobby Lavender (30, Louisiana, OnlyFans), Tavia (22, PA, model/OnlyFans), Alyssa (27, Austin TX, realtor), Sky (24, San Diego, environmental health specialist), Juliet (38, Denver CO, marketing), Karen (45, West Hollywood, writer/comedian), Madison (19, SBCC, Whatever staff).

Relationship status round

Each guest shares current relationship status, how long single, and longest relationship. Bobby: 3-year monogamish relationship. Tavia: 3-month talking stage, previously single since November. Alyssa: legally separated, getting divorced (NPD husband, 2 kids). Sky: always been single, only e-relationship (3 days). Juliet: single/celibate 4 years since 7-year relationship. Karen: married 10 years (husband was meant to be one-night stand in Alaska). Discussion of monogamish dynamics and open relationships.

Alyssa's divorce / NPD husband

Alyssa discloses legally separated, filing for divorce. Husband suspected NPD per therapist. Two kids ages 1 and 2. Filed for divorce during first pregnancy; unexpectedly pregnant again 3 months later. Husband abandoned family; filed missing person report during newborn period. Husband dodging divorce service; now dating someone new. Discussion of TX child support maximums (~$2300/month for 2 kids).

Bisexual men / would you date a bisexual man

Brian asks panel if they would date a bisexual man. Tavia: yes (is bisexual). Bobby: no (hygiene concern). Alyssa: no (wants masculine man). Sky: no. Karen: no (has been with some unknowingly, didn't bother her then). Debate about whether pegging makes a man bisexual. Alyssa says she would peg a man but not date a bisexual man.

Sky's celibacy / waiting until marriage

Sky (24) has never been in a real relationship; now practicing celibacy and considering waiting until marriage. Discussion of whether switching to celibacy after sexual history is valid or a 'raw deal' for men. Panel discusses compatibility issues when one partner becomes religious mid-relationship.

Self-ratings (looks, face and body 1-10)

Brian asks each guest to rate face and body separately on 1-10 scale (no 7s allowed). Bobby: natural 10 face, body 6. Tavia: face 9, body 10 (hates her nose). Alyssa: face 5-6, body 8-9. Sky: face 5-6, body 9. Juliet: face 8, body 8. Karen: face 8, body 8. Madison: face 6.9, body 8. Brian: face 5, body 4.5 (admits needing to lose weight). Armpit hair debate: Bobby reveals she does not shave armpits. Chat reaction discussed.

Armpit hair debate / Bobby's grooming choices

Brian asks chat and panel if Bobby's unshaved armpit hair is a dealbreaker. Discussion of leg hair (Bobby does not shave legs either, fine blonde hair). Bobby shares stripper clients who were attracted to her armpit scent. Panel discusses pheromone attraction.

Man vs bear viral debate

Panel discusses the viral 'would you rather meet a random man or a bear in the woods' question. Bobby, Sky, and others discuss choosing the bear based on predictability. Brian challenges logic with zoo/bathroom hypotheticals. Discussion of SA statistics, what percentage of men would victimize given no consequences. Reference to woman killed by bear in California (first fatal Black bear attack). Discussion of transgender bathroom safety.

Body count round

Maddie (co-host) asks body count question. Karen: triple digits (recovering sex addict). Bobby: 50-100 (~80% male, 20% female). Tavia: over 40, under 60. Alyssa: ~6 (mostly long-term relationships). Sky: low count. Discussion of bisexuality, men who have had same-sex experiences, and what constitutes gay behavior. Debate about past guy going down on other men and Alyssa's dating a man now with a trans woman (penis).

Pre-show notes: modern feminism harms relationships (Juliet)

Brian reads Juliet's pre-show note: modern feminism harms men and women, keeps both from what they seek in long-term partnership. Juliet expands: second-wave feminism contributed to hookup culture; sex means different things to men vs women biologically (dopamine/vasopressin vs oxytocin). Discussion of who identifies as feminist; Brian's definition of feminism as women's advocacy not equality movement. Jordan Peterson quote on equal opportunity vs guaranteed outcome.

Sex work / dating a sex worker

Tavia's pre-show note: objects to framing 'would a man date a sex worker' as unusual question. Brian explains why dating sex workers is suboptimal (practised deception/manipulation via GFE fraud, lying about chatters). Panel discusses whether OnlyFans is easy or hard work. Body count and sex worker identity discussion.

Abortion / reproductive rights

Discussion of Texas abortion restrictions and women's medical care access. Brian argues abortion banning is not evidence of gender inequality since men have no reproductive rights. Panel debates equality framing of reproductive rights.

Andrew Wilson calls in (political analyst / debater)

Andrew Wilson (The Crucible host) joins as call-in guest. Introduces himself as political analyst and Blood Sport debater. Debates various topics with panel including feminism, male leadership, traditional roles.

Dating dynamics: male burden / who has harder time dating

Sky disagrees with framing that men have a burden in dating. Extended debate: Brian lists all male obligations in dating (approach, lead conversation, ask for number, plan date, pay, close). Panel acknowledges men are rejected far more than women. Andrew Wilson explains 'burden' means social obligation not that it is burdensome. Sky made Tinder at 17 to gain experience after getting no male attention in high school.

Age gap relationships

Sky objects to age-gap relationships on value-diminishment grounds. Karen is 9 years older than her husband (35-36 vs 45). Juliet has dated men 7+ years older. Brian notes younger women complain young men avoid commitment. Andrew Wilson weighs in on age gap dynamics.

Can you be racist toward white people / racism debate

Bobby shares experience being bullied/called racial slurs as a white minority at her school. Sky argues whites cannot experience racism (prejudice + power definition). Andrew challenges Sky's framework using logical consistency. Bobby ultimately concedes that whites experiencing racism does not have systemic effect. Karen notes she has seen racism directed at her white husband. Andrew points out Bobby's earlier framing justified racist behavior.

Roast segment and wrap-up

Short TTS roast segment at $25 trigger. Various viewer roasts read aloud. Chat donates, panel reacts. Brian closes show with thank-yous.

Transcript

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Alyssathat's that's exactly my question yeah is the man going to like make up for the I don't do only fans but just hypothetically is a man going to make up for the financial differences like are you going to be a provider and

Karensubstitute whatever they were making why should he have to why should to give it everybody has a right because you want to be in a monogamous relationship but that's you're assuming that they want to

Alyssabe in a mon that's why I asked I I asked her and she said yes she wants to be in a monogamous relationship to Mary well then but it's sort of a false equ equivalence like it would make more sense to say would you be okay with your

Taviaman doing only fans some guys think it's it's hot and they get turned on by it and and that's literally a and then once the once the honeymoon phase is over and

Taviahe leaves you because he can't take it anymore then what but this for me this isn't forever this is but that's why I said for and express my sexuality and

Karenand saving money and that's why I said your 20s is for [ __ ] around finding out who you are so you know you're not quite at the threshold where you should be figuring yourself out yet but you should probably stop only fans before

Skyyou figure yourself out um I mean everyone figuring myself out right now everyone has different tolerances for social deviancy and

Skysexual deviancy and any rational guy going into a relationship or looking for a potential relationship he's not going

Skyto seek a woman who is putting herself out there um as a sexual being to other men to other men there's going to be a lore like guys

Alyssalook for a lore in women they do look for a little bit of competition but that's not competition that's like I just think it's crazy for anybody to speak for like grp but I don't think

Julietthat's most men most men that are okay with it are not high value men I mean I would not and they're not the men that you're going to want to marry exactly so what these two what these two ladies just say I think one thing that might be

Julietforgotten here and again no judgment honestly no judgment but one thing that I that I think might be being forgotten here is that what men and I am generalizing here but generally speaking

JulietI think that what men fall in lust with is very different than what men fall in love with and I think a lot of times maybe because of the way we were raised the way we value or don't value ourselves I think especially as women

JulietI've seen a lot of people conflate those two things and I think it causes a lot of pain on both ends I think a lot of men are very confused too do you do do you do BG content no you only do solo

Brian Atlascontent okay so I mean obviously there's scales to it like a girl who's only done like lingerie stuff on Lon fans it's not quite as suboptimal as girl who's done

Tavialike gang bangs sex you know and like BG content but in my opinion but it's still suboptimal like if some like to me like my standards right like I would never go

Taviaand do mainstream porn because to me like I just can't do that with sex like and and I think if to me a woman doing mainstream porn and having sex with a bunch of different men literally on

Taviacamera like you can see all different that's not a Vibe I think a woman that does boy girl content on only fans with her partner her boyfriend husband whatever it is and then and then maybe a divorce happens and it doesn't work out

Taviaand now she wants to date someone else is that person going to judge her for having sex with someone else whether it's on camera or not like you're going to be upset that your your girlfriend

Karenthat was dating people before you had sex with other people yep on cam can I have a question I have a question I have a question do you do you believe that doing only fans does that give you confidence does that build your

Karenconfidence do you feel more confident because you do only fans I I think actually yeah cuz I think it's a false sense of confidence because here's the here's the reason why I say this because

Karenonly fans gives you confidence because it's based on looks it's only based on looks you're not having pullit Sur priz conversations with people that are checking out your titties in your vagina so the second the only fans is done or

Taviayour licks fade then what are you left with what are you left with well I think I mean obviously none of us really know each other that well but like before I did only fans I had my own Remodeling

TaviaCompany at the age of 19 and doing manual labor Remodeling and uh actually that's my passion and that's I want to own an allw women's Construction Company

Taviaone day and uh this is just something that's fun for me and I have like oh my God who the hell cares oh the mo the construction company

Skywell just just to add to her Point s it's just like obviously there's her goals just if you have if you have this

Skyalternative path that you want to seek then why what is the appeal in doing only fans to you and what do you think it is the appeal of doing only fans to

Taviamultitude of women that actually do it I think it's for me it's an ability to make a a great like future for myself without a man like I don't need a man in

Taviamy life and if there is one that wants to be there and love me for where I'm at and actually knows me and like what I've been through then I don't think they would can I can I suggest something the quality of man and human that I think

Julietyou're going to want later in life is the kind of man who's going to want to be needed by you MH a I think I would be surprised who Subs only fans like you all have this idea that it's like the

Alyssakind of man that you want is not G to subscribe to only fans that those are the exact guys that are subscribed you people just don't know example it's the pre that are buying yeah but I'm not looking at marry

Brian Atlasa preacher hold on hold on I'm going to make things very simple you're saying it's obvious I get no it's not so your original question do you want to just restate your original question to me is

Tavialike why am I what why do I object to dating an O girl is that was that your original question um I don't even think it was a question it was just the original thing was like the topic that I brought up I just feel

Brian Atlaslike here look I'll pull up I'll pull up the notes uh okay so you don't agree with all the discussions about women's and men's role in relationships and then you went to there mhm okay I agree with

Brian AtlasMatt by the way now on your only fans you state that you have daddy issues so a girl needs some daddy daddies plural LOL which seems to indicate that you a

Brian Atlaspickme girl well it's seems to indicate that you would entertain multiple men so you've already made an admission on your only only fans that you have an inclination towards dating multiple men

Brian Atlasthis is obviously a massive red flag although given given that I said that that people [ __ ] on only fans you could certainly be lying you also say here you can see me fully nude squirt

Brian Atlasgive Joi strip te's roleplay get the full girlfriend experience request customs and you love to spoil and be spoiled so you're giving the girlfriend experience so if I was dating you for

Brian Atlasexample and you had you're giving 10 other men the girlfriend experience uh I'm getting your divided romantic attention and sexual

Taviaattention wait do you have a typer yes or no no h you sure my page isn't big enough for that your page isn't big enough once it

Brian Atlasis like I will make it very clear like um you're going to make it clear you're paying a guy in $1 a day someone is helping me sell my content yeah you're really going to put that in your by the

Taviaway the guy the guy who's pretending to be me that's a dude yeah I mean I think all wom F into is like putting who into a box all the girls are do only fans everybody has what box am I putting them

Taviain the fact that they have typers and Chatters which is well that they all that all of them are I don't think all of them lie you don't think all of them lie actually really enjoy

Brian Atlasproba the majority it's you guys lie about [ __ ] oh my God all it everything um in any case so I do want to make some World of Warcraft related comments here so dating an only fans

Brian Atlasgirl Nick could you lower the volume just a little bit is kind of subpar you know it's like a pretty weak build you know like B best in slot it's going to be a girl who doesn't even have an

Brian AtlasInstagram probably kind of a shy girl to be honest like like I have an you also have wonderful boyfriend I like like I don't know some guys look

Brian Atlassome guys I'll give it to you they'll still date you they don't care about Min maxing they're happy with an O girl maybe just like running five man's and [ __ ] you know like they're never going to raid molten core like they're never going to get they'll just like do five

Brian Atlasmans like for their whole like World of Warcraft career and they're going to like have a suboptimal build and like if they ever do maybe they'll do like a pug raid and they'll like maybe in like the 50 percentile but they're happy to just

Brian Atlasget some dungeon loot here like maybe if they're lucky they'll get like a purple like one of those [ __ ] tier purples from like the uh like a fiveman raid you know like maybe maybe if they're Rogue

Brian Atlasthey'll get fell Striker from Ren in ubrs you know Upper Black Rock Spire but you know me personally I want those 99% parses and that's why like me personally I wouldn't date a girl who does only

Brian Atlasfans and you know but these guys who are like in dad guilds and wiping on loose safron and molten core yeah like they'll you know like noobs they'll probably can

Brian Atlasyou put on the the the math symbols what do you mean anyways you know like you know like wiping like the guys who are wiping on lucifron like they'll probably date like an only fan girl it's cuz they

Bobby Lavendercan't get anybody else that was impressive can you put on the map symbol the one the one where you're doing at the table are probably really turned on right now what the one where you're doing all the

TTS/Donationscalculating it's too late the moment has passed all right Maddy can you read this oh their Al meat ball donated $200 boost te gear or give me death yo Mr meall give me Tier gear or give me

Brian Atlasdeath well put dude Mr meall some [ __ ] tier three NAX ramama [ __ ] can you boost the audio Nick um but uh yo Mr Meo once again hold on let me hit you with the He's a brave and a decent man

Brian Atlashe's a Pioneer good to have you good to have you back man okay uh Maddie can you read yeah this one sec it's coming

Madisonin panel million-dollar question why call yourself a feminist that seems exclusive why not call yourself a humanist or equalist well you're the only person who said you're a feminist right so yeah I don't think do you want

Skyto answer that one well I before I was continuously calling myself a female Advocate and not necessarily a feminist but I do consider myself a fe feminist because the differences between men and

Skywomen given not necessarily the physical stature and but like intellectual capacity between men and women is so negligible and you're never going to be

Skyable to quantify it so how the heck can you discriminate one against the other I think men and

Skywomen are now competing for their spot in the workplace for instance and why I call myself a feminist not a

Skyhumanist uh I don't know it's the terminology feminist is specific to females and uh catching up in the rat race

Skyso and a humanist I mean I don't I'm also of the opinion that feminist feminism is not always going to be a necessary force in the world like there

Skywill be a point where feminism is not needed because women will have equal rights to men do we not have equal rights now well not in all parts of the

Skyworld but in the united states in the United States I would say it's fairly equal the only thing that I would wait hold hold on hold on what's going on in

TaviaTexas I don't know all all the controversy that that's just happened in Texas with everybody knows women's rights women's rights what what women's rights

Alyssathey're now denying um like medical abortions for women from what I understand like even if it poses a risk to the Woman's Health they basically have to be dying they have to be dying

Brian Atlasin order to get help okay so let me ask you a question let's assume that they did allow abortion under those circumstances would you still feel that

Brian Atlasthere is an abridgment of women's rights if all other abortions were outlawed or is it only the the only abortions you care about are the ones where the woman's life is at

Brian Atlasrisk um oh wait hold up repeat that one more time one more time well you you guys are citing to an extreme example here that women even women well that's just an example that's happening right you you asked for an example like that's

Brian Atlasan example so you're you're fine so just so I understand are you saying you're fine with abortion being banned but it should be allowed in the scenario where women their lives are at risk I just think women should be able to have

Taviacontrol over their own health and their bodies like so you support abortion so you're pro- choice regardless yeah just I'm pro-choice okay what does that have to do with women's like like equality

Brian Atlasbecause right now women literally have to be dying when when it comes to feminism and equality your the the the Viewpoint the standpoint is in

Brian Atlascomparison to men in comparison to men men have no Reproductive Rights at all it's not clear to me if abortion rights have

Brian Atlasanything to do with inequality in so far as men have no option at all when it comes comes to Reproductive

Brian AtlasRights so it's not evidence it's not because men it's not your medical right but if men don't have any sort of say at

Brian Atlasall wouldn't equality actually be for abortion to be entirely illegal wouldn't that be equality I don't know if it it's not

Taviaeven something that you can compare because men don't carry children this is such a redundant it's not redundant because if we're having a conversation and health and like men don't have to have kids so like

Taviaif woman is on the verge of dying and that's the only way that she can get proper healthare it's like Health it's like healthare right but it's not about it's not about um it's not coming from a

AlyssaViewpoint of equal like men have this right and women don't you can't compare that to a male's right because a male can't carry a babies so you can't even compare the two

Bobby Lavenderthings main a man has the choice on whether or not he wants to get the snip snip right or if he wants to nut so does a woman right but do you want a nut in there like that's you that's

Brian Atlasthat's you're basically when it comes to men you're basically a bronze Bronze Age prolifer

Brian Atlasoh okay so let me ask you a question is consenting to sex as a man

Brian Atlasconsenting to fatherhood yes yes yes okay as a woman is consenting to sex consenting to Motherhood yes not to me

Brian Atlasit's not okay so let me ask you a question would you ever tell a woman who was inclined to get an abortion and if she didn't want a child would

Brian Atlasyou okay let me let me walk it back a little bit what would you tell a man who got a girl pregnant and he didn't want to get a girl pregnant what would you tell him if she wanted to keep the kid

Bobby Lavenderand he didn't um tell her well I would say that just be the best father that you can and uh

Brian Atlasbecause it is what if he's upset about the this reality that he's about to face he has an option to sign his right away no he does no he

Brian Atlasdoes it's a thing okay hold on they don't tend to do it very often because they think in would you tell him something would you tell him something along the lines of tough you should have

Brian Atlasthought of that before having sex with her your option would sometimes so maybe it depends on the relationship your option some people that get pregnant to some of the men I'm like why would you

Alyssaeven sleep with that guy I mean I mean you consented to sleep you shouldn't have a double if you're going to be pro-choice and then you can't tell men you shouldn't have had sex if you knew what it could lead to if you wouldn't say the same thing to women I'm not

Brian Atlasgoing to VI but it's it's you're literally like that's the same thing that Pro lifers say to women oh well you should have kept your legs closed mhm not that I

Bobby Lavenderagree to that but I think that's a horrible thing to say but I mean can we all agree that that's a double standard I mean double standard risk nutting inside that's

Bobby Lavenderdifferent because there's options like condoms oral anal pulling out like cool you came in there you can still have sex without impregnating someone birth

Brian Atlascontrol right but let's say that like the woman lies about let's say the woman lies about being on birth control or lies about her fertility well then a bad situation

Brian Atlaslet's let's even say let's even say she is on birth control but a pregnancy a pregnancy still happens or you did take precautions but you know sometimes it

Bobby Lavendercan happen in that case I feel like he don't need to worry because the mom is probably feeling the same way like ooh this was an accident

Skywell what if she keeps the kid and he didn't want a kid I mean you have to consider the reasons for

Skywhy people of like biological age do not want children and it's because of social circumstances and financial circumstances most of the time they're not ready or they can't have them they

Skycan't well I mean yeah that's more of like a okay that's a so wait what's your what do you what's your argument my argument is that essentially when

Skyyou're sorry I got interrupted so I can't remember go on it's it's like why do you not want to have a kid it's for certain reasons so you

Skyshouldn't be having sex if you're not ready to have a kid and you're not willing to take the precautions [Music] to I don't even know what you're trying I don't even know what you're trying to

Brian Atlassay look ultimately what I'm trying to say is is that this conversation about abortion being like some inequality that women face it has nothing to do with

Brian Atlasequality or inequality men don't have any Reproductive Rights so if we're if we're talking about this from the lens of equality the actual equality would would

Brian Atlasbe for abortion to be outright banned in the United States yeah it's a human rights issue it's not a it's not a well it's it's within the purview of women's rights

Brian Atlasbut it's not from like a a comparison point of view in terms of the the framework is not about equality

Brian Atlasno women women not having the right is not always possible women not having the right to have an abortion in Texas is not evidence of inequality that's what I'm trying to argue I didn't argue that

TTS/DonationsI don't know somebody was for me I mean for me it's like a health thing man if a man wants to go into a hospital donated $200 it's the Dave Chapel joke if they

TTS/Donationscan decide to have a kid you should be able to abandon them but generally don't expose yourself to downside risk you aren't willing to experience well put Mr meall if women are allowed to murder the

Brian Atlaskid the man should at least be able to abandon them and walk away absolutely that would be equal but that that would be equal unfortunately that's not an

Brian Atlasoption in any state whatsoever that's not true what about sperm donors what women who women who are looking to have children yeah that's not really

Madisonsuper related though Maddie can you read this chat why do women con consent to sex but not consent to the possibility of life

Madisonsex leads to procreation that's simply biology newly right wing girl I love your content Brian it's changed my life thank you yo Ashley B good to uh good to have you in the chat thank you for the

Brian Atlasmessage appreciate it very much thank you Ashley you are a legend and a scholar Okay Kevin so sorry Jane Zay Zanesville I don't really get it neither

Skyme neither somebody who's Jane Zanesville so sorry Jane all right Kevin thank was she the one that got mauled by the bear no that was something Miller

Brian AtlasMiller rest in peace to the woman who got mauled though that was intense okay where were we in our notes we were talking to to Tavia here let's go back to

Brian AtlasTavia you dis was there anything else you disagreed on or that was it come on there was more that was definitely that was definitely it honestly you said you don't agree

Brian Atlaswith all the women humiliation that happens on the show I know it's intentional and for the viewers so what specifically do you mean by excuse me

Taviathe women humiliation that happens on the show well I mean just like like intentionally talking about things and doing things to like incite a reaction that you know is going to

Taviahappen because literally like like I watched one of the podcasts and you started doing the Warlock talk and then you're literally zooming in on the girls's face that are like annoyed at you for talking about it because they're

Tavialike clearly you know most of us have no idea about warlocks and it's like intentionally warlocks talking

Brian Atlasabout whatever and it's like bro how how is wouldn't that be more me humiliating myself than me humiliating women talking about World of Warcraft

Brian Atlasyeah he's he's he's casting himself under the bus that's a [ __ ] 50 dkp minus what the [ __ ] was that [ __ ] that

Brian Atlaswas funny um anything so just is that the that's that was your gripe the World of Warcraft stuff I just like things like that yeah okay give me can you provide

Taviaone example of a time I humiliated the woman on the show well I mean I have to be honest but but that was just one of the examples can you give me another example you wrote it I'm just that's the only that's one of the examples that's

Karenthe example I don't honestly I've watched a lot of like the viral clips of of of this podcast and it's not you ever humiliating them it's them humiliating

Karenthemselves because I I couldn't wrap my mind around the girl who cried because he asked her well what's misogynist and she start started crying and left I

Karencould I wanted to strangle her I wanted to throat punch her like are you kidding me grow the [ __ ] up Punch Yeah I mean yeah that was sad though it wasn't sad it was stupid she was stupid she was

Karendumb for acting like a baby don't go on a podcast that's going to talk about these topics if you can't handle it if you're going to sit there and cry like a little [ __ ] go home everyone's going to

Brian Atlashave unique reaction I didn't so she deserved it but yeah it is that that is that a Socrates quote trust not when a woman weeps for what is that is that or

Brian Atlasuh that's what she was doing white woman tears Plato is it Plato or I don't know maybe chat find me the find me the quote but uh uh so can you provide one example of a time

Brian AtlasI humiliated the woman on the show well I didn't say that's I said or here this is this is what you wrote you said I don't agree with all the women wi

Brian Atlaswomen plural I don't all the women humiliation that happens on the show I know it's intentional and for the viewers that was my example that that's what I was

Madisontalking the video game thing and just doing it to inside reaction and then are you saying just like showing that girls are annoyed or something how's that

Taviahumiliating to women you just sit there literally doing it to entice entice a a reaction that you know is the reaction you're going to get most of people actually the reality is when I do the

Brian AtlasWorld of Warcraft thing like five people think it's funny and everyone else is like l l l cringe cringe cringe I hate it when he does this like in the chat I

Madisonjust do it because I want to do it yeah we all think it's fair that was

Brian Atlaslit uh so okay can you give me one exam one give me one example there's there's was my example I don't have 100 hours of

Brian Atlasme doing this podcast wait we've done like 100 what 160 something shows what is this 168 Brian to be fair she's only watched like two podcasts yeah I think

Skynot watch all the hours a lot of hours maybe I don't provide example maybe she thinks that you're letting these women maybe maybe she thinks that you're

Skyletting these women embarrass themselves like but that's literally their choice cuz they select to come on to the podcast I mean that was my example to that statement so maybe it's not the best one but that's it that's all I got

Brian Atlasfor you okay all right you can't control that necessarily but I mean I'm only responsible for the words that come out of my mouth somebody comes on here and

Skysays some [ __ ] that's that's them what was that noise but I do have a question okay so whenever you're selecting thumbnails what criteria are you

Brian Atlasselecting your thumbnails based off of are you upset that I didn't put you in the thumbnail no I don't look at this she's jealous she's like don't give a [ __ ]

Brian Atlaswhy didn't you put me in the thumbnail I'm the star I'm the star of the showe what the hell I'm I'm the [ __ ]

Brian Atlasaside of this [ __ ] you're the bide you should have put me in the goddamn thumbnail yeah instead of that thought Daughter by the way Nick is there an improvement in the focus on my side or

Brian Atlasis it still kind of out of focus out of focus or just a little bit okay maybe I'll try to adjust it uh anyways uh wait hold on wait wait hold

Brian Atlason this Cod wait wait wait you have a tweet this is the tweet I didn't I we're not going to pull it up I I looked at your Twitter you have a a tweet that reads did you know that most of these only fans pages are run by men or I

Brian Atlasdon't know I don't know why you brought immigrants into the OR immigrants and you're most likely not even talking to a woman with women you need to we need I need to help you out a little bit there's woman women whatever not even

Brian Atlastalking you're most likely not even talking to a woman well I'm here to help because I 100% run my page and you'll be chatting with me directly I'm 21 and fun

Alyssaand thriving hope to see you there that was a sales Hook by the way yeah love that was that was your that's your sales I mean that was good yeah and it appeals to your issue you literally talking

Madisonabout your issue huh is she's satisfying that I'm literally satisfying you're what yeah what you said but you saying like you keep boxing assault in general

Karenyou literally admitted to it yeah you admitted to it on your Twitter right you did I say everyone did I use the word everyone I wonder if we can find it hold on let me see if I can find it I'm going to try to find but that's the thing though you're using you're using the

Karennegativity that there is out there about the only fans to your advantage to try to sell more people to come to your page so you are being just as manipulative as though people that they're using men is it manipulative

Bobby LavenderI'm I relate to that like I've definitely posted some salty things because as someone who does do all all the work it is so hard to see like them

Bobby Lavendertop 0.0 making the million dollars being like on my page and you know they you know they don't they have like tens of thousands of subscribers but us we probably have like 500 what about you

Bobby Lavenderlike like a thousand okay I mean even when I did have a thousand before I had a boyfriend so yes I have I make half the income I used to make it I was still possible and I did not

Bobby Lavenderneed to hire anybody but I do get salty and I've made some of those kind of post myself even though it's frowned upon in the industry to like throw people under you're literally throwing your other competition under the bus just just to

Bobby Lavendertry to and I'm not proud of it I'm not proud of it but I've had weak moments where I'm just like but that's hypocrisy ladies that's hypocrisy me being a realtor and being like is your realtor lazy I'll do what

Alyssathey won't do it's essentially the same thing like she's proving that not all of them are manipulative and lying like she really does run her own page which Brian should be happy with because it's honest

Brian Atlaswell here's the thing though even if she wasn't running her own page she would still lie about it how do you know that's what they do no but you're saying now you're saying all only only fans

Taviagirls lie but honestly if a man is going to come onto a girl that literally has is like 3.5 million uh followers on Instagram only fans and they're going to come on there and think

Taviaactually that they're talking to that girl I mean is it is who who is liable here like is who wait if who like if you were if you were who are we going to blame the girl

Taviaor the guy cuz the guy should have enough common sense to know and the girl's just providing a service like if you were lying about this would you be willing to pay me

Brian Atlas$1,000 wait say that again would you be what if if it's actually not true that you that you don't have typers would you be willing to pay me $1,000 if it's if it's actually not true so if you're

Brian Atlaslying about the fact that you respond to all your off messages would you pay me

Alyssa$1,000 if you're not lying would you pay him $1,000 I'm not lying $1,000 no if you're lying out you do have a Ty would you pay him $1,000 if I had a typer I

Karenwould say it would you you would not tell you would not tell your you're not lying you would not tell your only fans audience if you're making Buu dollars you're not going to tell these these men

Karenthat you have a typer there's no way if you're if you're with a guy let's say you're chatting with a guy right and he says I'll give you $5,000 right now I'll give I'll give you $5,000 right now if

Karenyou tell me you don't have a boyfriend and I'm the only man you're talking to are you going to lie to him and tell him that you have a boyfriend are you going to lie to him and tell him that you don't have a boyfriend and tell him you're the only man that I want right

Tavianow for $5,000 yes you are she can't even answer thank you she can't even answer it cuz she has a typer in that instance that instance I had a typer

Karenthen I guess they would and then I guess they would so thank you would they what would they answer on your behalf is you lying because if if you're telling everyone you don't have a typer right you're telling everyone on Twitter and everyone out there hey guys I'm the only

Karengirl on only fans that doesn't have a tyer tyer but even though you don't have a typer you're still lying and manipulating if you're willing to take $5,000 from a man on the promise that you don't have a boyfriend and that he's the only one you're talking to she

Bobby Lavenderdidn't say yes though she did say yes this is a bunch of side tangent hypothetical yeah like but it's true I would say no because I'm not willing to I'm not I'm

Bobby Lavendernot I'm not going to pay $1,000 for you could really fabricate anything on the internet if you have some kind of proof or whatever that she like who knows that

Bobby Lavendercould be so doctored there's really no way to prove it h interesting trust are you about to bust out like

Brian Atlassome look like no he he ain't got nothing I've seen him like be like oh yeah you say you're a virgin well someone sent me like anyways moving on we're going to

Brian Atlasget to who do we get to we're going to get to Alyssa here Alyssa you said your entire marriage married to a narcissist your words not mine you could recount moving

Brian Atlaswait oh you guys moved in together the second time you hung out yes I didn't know about love bombing or any of you said there was there's manic love bomb phase yeah that was fun okay so getting

Brian Atlasmarried having kids and then the crazy narc [ __ ] that led you to file for divorce you can also talk about your Dom experience with the [ __ ]

Alyssasubmissive what uh so yeah why don't we talk about that the [ __ ] submissive thing you you domed a I've domed a few people but um this

Alyssaparticular one is funny um so he was like yo you're kind of a [ __ ] and I'm like yeah I know so what's up like it's a good friend of mine and um I'm like yeah so like what's

Alyssaup and he's like well I just think you have like Dom energy and and I'm like what the [ __ ] I didn't know anything about King stuff at that well not that level of King stuff at the time I was I don't know I was young anyway uh long

Alyssastory short he came over in like a French made outfit with in chassity and I'm pretty sure I kept him locked for like several months wait locked oh the

AlyssaCH belt yeah and like you actually shrink at some point so he's lost um their Al donated

Alyssa$200 yikes to all these things because if he's yeah yeah major yikes dude so like big yikes big yikes he would like clean my house thank you Mr with like a butt plug and I would like

Alyssahit the button never so often but to further humiliate him I invited my friend over oh my God who is this before your husband yes this I was so young oh my God I was like 19 at the time was he

AlyssaYoung Too exploring he's like essentially my I want to go home um yeah so like if he didn't if he wasn't like on his hands and knees then I would like pour the [ __ ] out of the dust pan and

Alyssamake them clean it up again and um and then like if you have a [ __ ] sub like if they do ever come to climax like they have to

Nick (production)look it up [ __ ] stuff like that what yeah that's [ __ ] disgusting I'm it is 100% it is well what did you get for it it's funny that's disgusting I mean most of my Subs have paid me you see you just

Alyssasaid on YouTube but like I don't sorry to the world please don't listen to this I'm sorry for her I'll pray for her no no literally literally you should actually because this is all my

Brian Atlaspre-christian behavior pre Christian Behavior oh my god oh Lord so just to be clear you dated a man I didn't date him oh you I

Alyssadidn't yeah what so wait well most of the Dom situations were virtual but this particular person was my best friend and he was just into it and I was like okay I'll try it out like why not and you did

Brian Atlasyou guys ever have sex no what what did you get out of it a clean house Andy for free yeah foot rubs all kind of

Alyssa[ __ ] anything I told him to do simp andate easy and money and so he would climax uh no if he did he had to [ __ ] clean it up with his mouth no you said he would because yeah like at his house

Alyssa[ __ ] not in your place no no no no kind of sexual relationship I mean I guess you could say it sexual in nature but yeah no holy [ __ ] did I send the asteroid did I send the asteroid sending the [ __ ] as for on this [ __ ] I would

Alyssanever date someone who is that's pathetic submissive like that that's just uh yeah I

Bobby Lavendermean she wait you oh you guys both got a turn huh yeah Bo I was going to ask you did he ever wear a red curly wig with bangs because I had him over at my house once and then my wig came up missing you

Brian Atlasknow he likes to dress like a girl so I thought it was him I never saw him wear a wig also I think he's in the chat cuz he's obsessed with those why are you so you should you should Dom him right now and tell him to do a champagne 20

TTS/Donationsdonated $200 purple hair chick is putting on an act blonde is toxic and Raven chick is a enabler of her own problems listen to

Brian Atlasthe woman to your right great panel Brian enjoy being here thank appreciate that2 thank you man appreciate your support I'm an enabler to Mom problems your name is new so welcome man really appreciate uh welcome to the family

Alyssawelcome to the team welcome to the Army Britney Spears let me like reiterate I'm 27 now and I was like 19 when this happened it's even worse it's even worse it's like no it's

Alyssaat that age where you're like experimenting with what you you know what you like you made a more chastity belt which reduced his size he he loved it they love it the sub is always really

Brian Atlasthe one in control like they usually are the ones orchestrating it it's just like I mean it's not something I would not date someone I don't even have words for

Skythis I just got to shake my head all righty then try it like I'll try and see if did you ever feel pressured in that situation because he was your best friend and he was coming to you with this no I'd just ignore him if I wasn't

Alyssafeeling it and I and I do now I'm like when I was married I ignored him totally did it change your level of respect for him no whatever he's he's in a weird [ __ ] who cares I'm a Libertarian I don't give a [ __ ] what you do as long as it

Alyssadoesn't hurt anyone else yes now my personal Le principles may not be the same as like what I think is cool for other people to do um but yeah I mean do

Karenwhat you do I had a dude that wanted me to put an egg in his ass and that was just a red flag for me I'm like no I'm not into that [ __ ] I'm not putting anything in your [ __ ] like this is

Bobby Lavendernot something I'm into bye kick yeah I agree I guess there are a couple things that I won't to try once yeah yeah I'm not just not into it I'm not into demasculate men honestly I'm not I'm not

Brian Atlasinto it anyways uh going back to your notes Here uh so you used to be a stripper how long were you stripping for like four years in my early adult life four years okay

Brian Atlasyeah and you said you're wait yes the feminist take on 50/50 and how it's often low-key pikme Behavior disguises empowerment what do you mean okay so who

Alyssais winning in that situation because in every relationship Dynamic is different okay so I'm not trying to generalize everybody but for the most part the woman typically does the emotional labor she's typically going to do most of the

Brian Atlascleaning she's typically going to do most of the child care I can tell you this in my own marriage and okay well the maybe some of that other stuff but the emotional labor like okay that's whatever you think so I feel like it's

Alyssausually women who like initiate let's go to coup's therapy and stuff like that that's what I'm saying it's not like it's not every relationship but generally if my girl comes to me we need

Brian Atlasto we need therapy I'm just let's just skip dip right to the chase here's the divorce papers so that's that proves my point she's doing emal labor I'm not

Brian Atlasgoing [ __ ] liberal therapist so some woke liberal therapist so that she the the therapist can affirm the woman's position because most therapists tend to

Alyssabe women they tend to be biased towards women I'm not do with my husband we did marriage therapy and our our therapist was a man and he absolutely held me accountable on [ __ ] that I did wrong

Alyssaabsolutely okay most therapists probably aren't like that but you don't go to therapy so where are you getting this information from more generaliz okay exactly so the woman's doing the emotional labor so you just literally what does therapy have to do

Alyssawith who's doing the emotional labor Rel example like if the woman is like what evidence do you have that women are doing the emotional lab if she's saying I want us to go to therapy so that we can keep the marriage going and you're like [ __ ] that then she's obviously

Alyssaputting forth work that's me okay and I think that's generally have his reasonings for why anyway the point is they they usually do most of the child hold hold on let's talk about

Brian Atlasemotional labor cuz this is such a buzzword what does that even mean okay to labor emotionally articulate what it means I'm not okay typically women are going to stay with a man who cheats on

Brian Atlasthem and they're like oh I love you enough I'll just deal with do emal lab emotional labor it takes a woman through emotional pain let's both agree that cheating is wrong give me an example in a healthy relationship let's go to thy

Brian Atlasthat is the that is the on in a healthy relationship what is an example of emotional labor go if okay let's say we have a communication issue okay why are you okay if we have a communication issue

Brian Atlasoutside of therapy outside of therapy give me an example because I don't see how that would be an emotional labor yeah what is emotional labor emal labor they use these words they don't even know what they mean putting yourself

Alyssagave an example of Define emotional labor then putting forth the emotional effort in the relationship to keep the Rel reltionship going what does that mean though

Alyssawoman if the woman just like let's say there's no cheating okay so you can't okay you can't rationally discredit every example and then be like oh well you're not giving me an example give me an

Alyssaexample practicing okay you said going to therapy and cheating what else typically women are going to be the better communicators uh typically the women are going to want to sit down and talk an issue out and the men are not

Alyssaalthough that's not always the case like women can have you know avoidant attachment Styles too but are we going to like get to the whole point or we just want to hold on this for the next hour let's give me an example of

Alyssaemotional lab gave you multiple no you didn't okay let's say we're fighting hey hey Brian I don't like that like when I try to talk to you you kind of like discredit everything that I say if it if it doesn't align with your views you

Alyssajust won't hear me how is that emotional we're having a conversation we're engaged we're role playing okay I'm tell you're you're my man hey I feel like when I talk to you

Brian Atlasif it's not what you want to hear you disregard what I'm saying can you recognize that you do that what do you hold on I don't want I'm not really interested in engaging in

Brian Atlasa ro this a perfect example of me trying to do we not in a [ __ ] relationship I'm not here to kiss your ass why don't you give me an example of emotional labor without us having to roleplay it

Alyssaokay but that is something that happens in relationships the woman will want to sit down conversations talk about the issues and like [ __ ] you in what you think it's not clear to me that that's an emotional labor I would agree and say that's the

Karenwrong term for it okay so then what would you call it I wouldn't call it emotional labor I would call it talking things out to me like I'm five emotional labor is literally PR me like I'm five it's practicing empathy and putting

Alyssayourself in someone else's shoes without having to like putting I don't even know what that means you're putting yourself putting yourself in someone else just shoes if you come me and tell me you don't like something labor is put sit

Brian Atlasthere and I reflect about it even though I may not agree why would that be emotional lab that would just be you putting yourself in somebody else's shoes considering their perspective you don't think empathy is an emotion no that's not what I said go ahead make

Alyssayour point make your point that is [ __ ] wild you don't think empathy is an emotion I literally didn't say that keep gas no no I'm talking lab by

TTS/Donationsdefition the wife comes to the husband says they need therapy the husband needs to be emotionally stable enough to say shut the [ __ ] up and make me a sandwich so that's exactly what I'm talking about so men will do [ __ ] like that listen men

Alyssawill do [ __ ] like that and women will still be like I pay 50% of the bills I Don't Need No Man okay [ __ ] you're the real pick me so what you're saying is they don't have to provide for you they don't have to [ __ ] do any emotional

Brian Atlaslabor they don't have to and also does that mean what does emotional labor mean I'm not going to spend the next 30 minutes Hing in on this I gave you multiple give me okay you you went to the extreme cheating and going to

Alyssatherapy okay no no you think is an extreme when I'm your partner is trying to engage you in a conversation going to you don't even have the empathy to cut it

Alyssaout stop being a [ __ ] idiot go ahead if even it's not an extreme example to say like hey if I'm trying to talk to my partner about something that bothers me and they just won't have the

Alyssaempathy to even listen to the problem much less reflect or acknowledge it that's me emotionally investing in the man being like [ __ ] you and your emotions because they're afraid to

Bobby Lavenderexpress I'm still waiting for an explanation of what emotional labor is we just gave you literally five okay then you can then you can like okay then how is you're being avoidant I'm not

Alyssabeing avoidant I actually I bet how how is it keep psycho analy how is it not emotional labor if you're

Skyum giving advice to your partner and trying to put them being vulnerable you're expressing your emotions an an advanced and healthier mindset how is

Skythat not emotional labor okay give me an example I can see that I can see that it's sunk into your head already just yes it has some just yeah you are the guy I was talking to that I was in a

Alyssathree-day relationship with but we had been talking fir up I think it's cute CU see that he has already digested it but this is for views he would routinely regard okay what evidence do you

Brian Atlasactually have for views you you literally have failed to articulate I'm looking at tell that you know what I'm saying okay cool you're a mind reader so in a relationship where there's not

Brian Atlascheating and therapy isn't necessary would you agree that there is some degrees of quote unquote emotional labor happening in otherwise Happy relationships yeah what's an

Alyssaexample in a okay no Rel happy relationship what would be an example of an happy relationship over all and still have issues em let exclude cheating

Brian Atlaslet's exclude the need a relationship so bad that it requires therapy okay yeah yeah even small what is an example of emotional labor in an otherwise happy relationship okay happy relationships

Alyssacan have small issues like communication issues right sure okay sure so if I'm coming to you trying to say hey we have communication issues I think we need to work it out because I love you and I want to stay with you but in order to do

Brian Atlasthat this is something that definitely needs to be fixed you have to be vulnerable oh you're dangling the breakup no just like you did with your husband didn't or didn't you say didn't you admit that one of your issues is

Brian Atlasthat you would threaten the breakup cuz in my in my book once you threaten the breakup it's goodbye I don't play that [ __ ] we can have we can have a conversation about issues but when you

Brian Atlasstart leveraging a breakup 100% I'll call your bluff it was nice to meet you goodbye I don't play this let's break up get back together

Brian Atlas[ __ ] you want to break up it's over Goodbye Oh my God that looks like a I that was like more of a wave goodbye that was not it's not a salute

Alyssathat was not a Roman salute okay no I actually agree like as someone who's no longer 22 and has done self-reflection and stuff I 100% agree with you but that's not what I'm saying here what I'm saying here is you don't have to

Alyssathreaten to leave but everybody knows like if a relationship gets too toxic it's just healthy to not be together so you try to discuss issues so that you can fix fix them and keep the relationship going and that's just like a general thing that everyone does are

Julietyou so you're describing emotional labor as like the willingness to discuss those things it's one example it's just any kind like but you said women do most of

Karenthe emotional labor in a relationship so I I'm sort of failing to understand I think I think what she's trying to say is that women are more likely to be

Karenvulnerable and that is equating to emotional therap or emotional labor but I wouldn't I think labor is stup for okay well we can argue semantics but the

Alyssageneral point and I also think that women tend to like emotionally invest more in general maybe sooner than men but that's har issue and the whole point that I'm making like the whole point

Alyssathat I'm making is women will literally brag they'll be like oh I pay 50% of the bills and I do the cooking and I do the cleaning and and and then they'll say dumb [ __ ] like if a guy cheats on you well you could have just told me I would

Alyssahave [ __ ] her with you you know that type of [ __ ] that is the real pickme energy so when I got married and I decided to become a mom I had so many feminite literally I'm not even [ __ ] playing I had so many feminists put me

Alyssadown and like oh my God years of feminism what we fought for wasted and it's like you're really the Pik me I'm not the pikme because I'm getting married

Alyssaand having children which by the way to me is the most meaningful thing that you could do is create another human and [ __ ] like build them up to be they're the future they're literally the [ __ ]

Alyssafuture generations and you have a a role in shaping that and you're going to tell me that [ __ ] paying 50% of the bills for your boyfriend who's going to [ __ ] cheat on you anyway and you're going to do all the [ __ ] that I'm doing

Alyssathat makes me the Pick Me Wait so hold on is your just to finally arrive at the point here you're against 50-50 relationships is that no no no if it's truly 50-50 I think that's great like if the if both partners are equally

Alyssacleaning cooking all of the things yeah that's great but that's just not what I typically see anodally okay let me ask you a question let's say the guy's working 60 hours a week and the woman's working 30 mhm and there's an unequal

Alyssadistribution of all the household [ __ ] that you're talking about do you not view that as 50/50 yeah wait if the man is working harder hours and by the way you said something

Alyssaearlier about blue collar men working 9 to FS who do y'all know bluecollar men that work n9o FES cuz I don't know any bluecollar men they work like 100 hour weeks so in those kind of scenarios yeah

Alyssait obviously makes sense that the that whoever whichever partner is not working as much should do more of the opposite labor yes I don't discredit that at all you also talked about also how it's more empowering to be a housewife and how

Alyssabeing that doesn't autom automatically make you the submissive one so I see um a huge debate topic on like Tik Tok and other social media platforms where women are like well if

AlyssaI'm going to be submissive then you need to pay all the bills and I guess it just depends on what you mean by submissive but like a man can be paying all the bills and that doesn't mean that you have to submit to him each relationship

AlyssaDynamic is going to be different so it was just weird to me as someone who like always wore the pants in my relationships to have women like oh you're you just let a man run you or if you have like any red pill ideas women

Alyssawill be like oh well you just think that cuz the misogyny is coming from inside the house which is actually misogynistic to say cuz you're assuming that I can't form my own opinions and that a man must have made me think this way although I

Karenhave to I'll have to say this as far as women who are Homemakers who are stay atome moms that's a full-time job you're taking care of the kids and whatnot but if you don't have children and you

Alyssaexpect the man to take care of you to me that's just lazy that's just lazy I mean that's that's I'm I don't fully dispute that but there are some Dynamics where you know if that works for both people then

Alyssawhatever cuz cuz she could be helping him like in those situations where he's working super hard he doesn't want to have to come home and do laundry he doesn't want to have to come home and do dinner so she's helping him in that scenario if she's objecting and then

Karensaying oh I don't have to do all this and yeah you're a lazy you're lazy [ __ ] yeah 100% agree get get a job then [ __ ] I agree yeah uh when I was a housewife my house was spotless I cooked all the

Alyssatime you can look on my Facebook at the meals album I cook good as [ __ ] my children are both highly Advanced um yeah I was a really good housewife but other women would put me down for it I'm

Alyssalike [ __ ] you're the pck me he's paying my bills and I don't have to work like yes what I'm doing is work but like I would definitely not want to be doing this and [ __ ]

Brian Atlasworking I think women should pay 100% of everything to be honest yeah I'll do it I think we need a reversal of the gender roles to be honest in what industry I mean

Skylike if you're baited what industry what women what what industry what industry are women working in that they're going to make more than the men maybe 10 well here's an

Brian Atlasexample Asian women out earn white men so okay then go for Asian women well wouldn't you like to

Brian Atlasknow can we ask you questions sure go ahead when how long has it been since you dated somebody I'm a virgin right doubtful there's just

Brian AtlasI don't talk about my uh relationship status he's seeing an Asian girl they don't have social media they have Instagram I'll tell you this I've

Brian Atlasnever dated a content creator or a girl who does only fans and when they say content like even just like a YouTuber twitch streamer no sex work never even dated a content

Alyssacreator I don't honestly huh how old are you I saw an episode where you said you were older than Michael nolles I'm

Alyssa34 okay yeah I mean to be honest like oh is is the is the dating rage that you

Alyssadate like uh like 19 to 22 is that a fair assessment I'll date anyone from uh 19 to 40 I suppose I've dated so you date

Skyolder girl I've dated yeah I've dated women older than me I've dated women younger than me that's where it's at is there any aversion for men to date a younger woman is there any reason why a man would not want to date a young well once we get Andrew Wilson on the call

Brian Atlaswe're going to get him here in just a sec uh we will talk about age Gap relationships because I believe that's in your notes so we'll get into that but yeah I don't really talk about it one because one precisely because I don't

Brian Atlasdate another content creator so if I'm dating like a normie chick I frankly don't want people harassing my girlfriend uh and then um it's just uh

Brian Atlasyeah there's just safety security concerns there have you ever found someone on the podcast that you were willing to date have I ever found somebody on the

Brian Atlaspodcast that I was willing to date date not sleep with date uh sure I guess yeah I'm not going to

Brian Atlasgive you specifics I'm not asking for specifics I typic I don't I try not to make it a habit though for the most part don't [ __ ] where you eat for the most part you know what's your body count

Skyzero I'm a virgin I don't think we're going to get an honest answer for that one he's born again but he doesn't support BN again wait are you a Christian did I say that I'm asking he's

Brian Atlasa modern man I'm a I'm don't know man I think that he TR fix questions unanswered so ni are you able to get Andrew going here uh guys we're going to

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