2 RAGE QUITS?! 37 Year Old Wants 0.1% Man Who Earns $1M+/YEAR?! WILL NOT Settle?! | Dating Talk #208

Date: 2024-10-28

Duration: 7h 15m

Guests

MMegan (Houston)>

VVanessa (37, IT/Yoga)>

VVanessa (19, deli)>

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_04Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07London(guest)

SPEAKER_08Megan(guest)

SPEAKER_09Vanessa(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kaye(guest)

SPEAKER_11Vanessa (2)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Allison(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kayn(guest)

SPEAKER_14Naomi Ryder(guest)

Key Moments

ControversyNaomi Ryder reveals she popped ~4 Plan B pills in one week and an estimated 20 in 2024

“I pop plan B's like candy... did four in a week... average week is like one... probably like 20 this year”

Key MomentVanessa (37) reveals she will only date men who earn $1M+/year and own $7M+ houses in LA

“I mean you have to be a millionaire just to pretty much live in LA so really multiple millionaires... if he doesn't own a house that's over $7 million I won't date him”

QuoteBrian runs the dating calculator — result shows Vanessa wants a 0.01% man (not even 1%)

“0.01 percent... that's not even close to 1%”

QuoteLondon tells Brian she rates herself 'broke my scale' — above a 10, off the charts

“I broke my scale... I'm off the charts”

ControversyLondon rates Andrew Wilson a '3' on the 1-10 scale, triggering a prolonged confrontation about honesty and delusion

“You're a three... you look like an English teacher... you're negative literally negative 2”

QuoteAndrew Wilson threatens to shut down his YouTube channel if Vanessa gets a diamond ring from a 0.1%er

“I will shut my YouTube channel down if you get a diamond ring from a 0.1 percenter and walk down the aisle”

OtherRAGE QUIT #1: London announces she is leaving (felt the show was 'disgusting', had her stuff in Vanessa's car)

“I'm going to leave in a little... I got to go right now... coming to y'all show was my first like thing considering putting myself out there and this was like kind of disgusting”

OtherRAGE QUIT #2: Vanessa (37) leaves with London (who drove her), completing the double rage quit referenced in the episode title

“London drove Vanessa; when London left, Vanessa also had to leave. Brian: 'tell her to come back otherwise you just got to get out of here'”

ControversyNaomi Ryder reveals she slept with a man, then his father (as revenge), then slept with the son again — panel is shocked

“I mean I [expletive] his dad and then he [expletive] me again right after... the son first, then dad because the son was acting up”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson systematically argues Naomi Ryder's sugar daddy arrangements constitute prostitution — the table broadly agrees

“You're sleeping with three men simultaneously... in exchange they're giving you lots of money... can you explain to me how that's not prostitution”

Key MomentKayn reveals she is in an age-gap relationship (19yo dating a 29-30yo man met on Tinder)

“Yes... 29 about to be 30... met online dating app... Tinder”

ControversyAndrew Wilson reveals he lost his virginity at age 13 to a 19-year-old woman — chat calls him 'a victim'

“13... [music/pause]... and the chick was 19 by the way”

Key MomentMegan reveals two of her ex-boyfriends came out as gay after dating her

“Two of them [came out as gay]... yes... two... sure is [a bad track record]”

OtherEnd-of-show body count round: Naomi Ryder estimates 300-500+, possibly over 1000 on-camera

“I lost count at like 19 so it's like over 200... over 300... probably [over 500]... it's like yeah Andrew agrees it's like a little over a thousand probably”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and Relationship Status Round

Guests introduce themselves with name, age, location, and occupation. Brian then goes around asking relationship status, how long single, longest relationship, and who broke up with whom. Notable: London's 8-year relationship with a man who went to prison multiple times; Naomi Ryder's adult film career and sugar daddy arrangements; Vanessa (37) reveals she requires a millionaire to date.

Birth Control, Plan B, and Sexual Health Round

TTS donation triggers a round asking who is on birth control. Most guests say no. Naomi Ryder reveals she 'pops Plan B like candy' — used ~4 in one week, estimates ~20 in 2024, lost count. Discussion of Plan B vs. birth control options. Naomi says she can't find a birth control that doesn't cause side effects.

Vanessa's $1M+ Man Requirements & Delusional Standards Debate

Vanessa (37) reveals she only dates men earning $500k-$1M+/year who own $7M+ houses in LA. Brian runs the 'dating calculator' tool showing this describes 0.01% of men. Andrew Wilson argues this is delusional given her age, competition from younger women, and what she brings to the table (massages, cooking, cleaning). London passionately defends Vanessa. Culminates in back-and-forth about whether Vanessa is 'delusional' for wanting a 0.1% man.

Self-Rating Round (1-10 Scale)

Brian asks all guests to rate their looks 1-10. Ratings: Kayn=9, Megan=6.5 (8.5 makeup/5-6 natural), London='broke my scale'/off charts, Kaye=6.5-7, Naomi='don't know'/7, Vanessa (37)=not given, Allison=6, Vanessa (19)=6, Brian=1% earner. London refuses to give a number, claims to be above the scale. Andrew says he's a 10. London rates Andrew as a '3' which triggers a prolonged confrontation about honesty and delusion.

London vs. Andrew Wilson Confrontation Over Beauty & Self-Perception

Extended confrontation between London (SPEAKER_07) and Andrew Wilson. London claims to be 'off the scale' beautiful (top tier). Andrew pushes back calling it delusion. London rates Andrew a '3.' Andrew comments on her extensions. The exchange escalates with personal insults. Andrew calls her 'full of shit' multiple times. London accuses Andrew of being a hater. Ends with London rage-quitting the show (~2:35) because she came with Vanessa (who drove) and also needed to leave.

Brian's Body Count / Hookup Speed vs. Low Body Count Paradox Debate

Kaye (SPEAKER_10) raises the 'Brian Paradox': Brian wants to sleep with women within 1-3 dates but also wants women with low body counts. Extended debate with Brian, Andrew, London, Kaye about whether women who sleep quickly are indicators of high body counts, whether women strategically become chaste after promiscuous pasts to attract better men, and whether Brian's standards are contradictory. Mock date role-play attempt. Brian explains his position on mismatched timelines. Andrew gives statistical context.

Naomi Ryder Sugar Daddy Prostitution Debate

Andrew Wilson systematically argues that Naomi Ryder's sugar daddy arrangements (sleeping with 3 older men who give her money/gifts) constitute prostitution by definition. Naomi repeatedly evades direct answers. Andrew asks: 'If they stopped giving you money would you stop sleeping with them?' Naomi says 'probably not.' Andrew deems this confirms prostitution. Other guests agree (show of hands). Brian says it's 'basically just coke.'

Red Flag Jobs Round

Super Chat question: biggest red flag job for men and women. Guest answers: Kayn=construction worker (AZ stereotype), Kaye=entertainment/podcast host or gynecologist, Naomi=no red flag jobs, Allison=sex worker or blue collar doing home visits, Vanessa 19=police officer (safety). Brian: flight attendant or travel nurse. Andrew: any social media influencer (worst), then flight attendant, travel nurse, hair stylist, HR, etc.

Naomi's Host Stories (Father/Son hookup)

In the show notes segment, Naomi is asked about her 'host stories.' She reveals that she once slept with a man, then slept with his father after the son was 'acting up,' and then the son wanted to sleep with her again after she slept with his dad — and she did. This happened ~1 year ago. Panel is shocked. Andrew asks 'who's better — the son?' Naomi says the son.

Marriage, Prenups, and Traditional Relationships Debate

Allison (SPEAKER_12) and Vanessa 19 (SPEAKER_11) discuss traditional gender roles and waiting for marriage. Extended debate on why men should get married (Allison argues for, Brian against). Andrew presents the prenup/M&M analogy: if someone offers you a potentially poisoned M&M you should get it tested. Allison argues prenups are planning for failure. Discussion of divorce statistics, women's role in divorce initiation, and whether love is a feeling vs. commitment.

Kayn's Age-Gap Relationship Discussion

Kayn (19) is in an age-gap relationship with a 29-30 year old man she met on Tinder. Brian and panel discuss the pros and cons of age-gap relationships. Kayn also discusses her previous 3-year relationship that ended because he was addicted to pornography.

Women's Suffrage Debate (Teased)

Kaye (SPEAKER_10) says she wants to debate women's right to vote. Brian agrees to save it for later in the show with Andrew moderating. Teased but not expanded in accessible chunks.

Megan: Two Exes Coming Out as Gay

Megan reveals that two of her ex-boyfriends came out as gay after dating her. Panel reacts with amusement and concern. Megan jokes she's changed her 'political affiliation' since then. Andrew asks if she worries about her husband. Megan says no.

Losing Virginity Ages Round

Going around the table: ages when each person lost their virginity. Kayn=15, Kaye=17, Allison=16, Naomi=18 ('15 if I could have sooner'), Vanessa 19=14, Megan not stated, Brian=15, Andrew=13 (the woman was 19, leading to 'you're a victim' jokes).

Body Count Final Round

End-of-show body count round. Naomi Ryder: lost count at 19, estimates over 300 (later pressured to confirm ~500, possibly 1000+). Allison: less than 15 (likely ~5-10). Others gave ranges. Brian: not disclosed. Andrew: not disclosed (won't say until Brian does).

Transcript

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Allisonthat my kids are going to be in danger right I I thought you meant family planning in terms of Education like how you're same same same thing same all of it is same exact thing it's all

Andrew Wilsonmitigating risk so the idea here is you want your child to have the best education otherwise you run the risk of them being less educated than they need to be to make it right but you don't

Andrew Wilsonnecessarily need to like spend a lot of money to get a good education I agree but that that has nothing to do with the fact that you're not mitigating risk the whole point is to mitigate risk so every time I look at married couples and I

Andrew Wilsonlook at couples in relationships they do everything in their power to mitigate risk R except sign this [ __ ] piece of paper which is really weird to me it it seems to me like they don't want to sign the piece of paper because they don't

Allisonwant to mitigate his risk well okay it seems like they want to mitigate all the risk except his risk I guess that makes sense for a modern

Allisonwoman nowadays like how women think the reason I don't get it is because in my mind that's not that just it wouldn't make sense to

Allisonme cuz it's like why would we Christian women don't divorce their husbands well well it's also like I'm not contemplating that if I'm deciding to marry you so it's like why would that even be a discussion wait wait but hold

Andrew Wilsonon hold on okay well then let me then let me counter with this last thing then before I turn the floor over to briam do you agree with me there's a difference between religious marriage and State marriage meaning you don't need the

Andrew Wilsonstate to be married in a religious sense yeah cuz you're so if a man wanted to be in a religious marriage with you and not a state marriage would you have any objection to

Allisonthat um I guess that would depend on like the content of it cuz it's like how are you going to financially function

Andrew Wilsonwith a partner if it's not legally what do you mean the same way that everybody in their brother who's not married and cohabitates financially does this with their partner right this

Allisonsecond which is the overwhelming also never been married so I don't know the full extent of how that goes you you can have a joint bank account with somebody who's you can have all the same things

Andrew Wilsonyou have all the same things there's just no State involved I guess no you wouldn't have any objection to that right no cuz it's holy matrimonial great well then if that's the case what if he

Andrew Wilsonsays to you all I want you to do is sign this contract that says that the state can never get involved in our marriage is I thought a prenup is just that no no answer to my question my

Andrew Wilsonquestion is what if he asked you to just sign a contract that said the state can never be allowed in our marriage we're married through the church instead would that be acceptable yeah okay well that's

Andrew Wilsona prenup I thought a prenup was more of like just strictly Financial no the prenup is saying we're not ever going to involve the state because we have now pre done away with all the conditionals

Andrew Wilsonthat if this relationship does not work out the state cannot come in and say a b and c and d this has already been litigated before there was ever a need to litigate it right so if it is true that you're fine with a religious marriage absent the

Allisonstate and fine with signing a contract saying the state can never come in and litigate then that means that you're fine with signing a prenup okay yeah I guess my idea of a prenup was wrong but

Andrew Wilsonyeah that makes sense like why wouldn't you cuz to me it's like like I like Brian said well you just answered your own question what do you mean why wouldn't you you're you're absolutely

Andrew Wilsonfine going into a religious marriage and exiting the state from it and signing a contract that the state can't get involved then you're fine with a preup well yeah cuz I mean if you're going into the marriage worried about money then it's like why are you getting

Allisonmarried right oh no but she's still objecting to the prup no I'm not no objection yeah I you are still objecting to the prenup no it makes sense to sign a prup

Allisonif you but you just said well why are you getting married then no why would you be getting married with your and your sole focus is about money yeah so you object to the prenup no I'm saying

Allisonso prup fine but also if you're objecting to a prenup it's because you're worried about financial States uh the woman is objecting to it right so she's so worried about money going into

Kayethis marriage and it's like well you guys work together in the marriage and am I make am I making s yeah you're making sense you had something yeah um I just remember reading like this stat and

KayeI don't know how accurate is but it's like 50% of marriages ending in divorce isn't accurate for like firsttime marriages the numberers kind of skewed for people who've been married like two or three times and those marriages

Kayeusually end like and so it kind of like skews the um absolutely data there sure is there further yeah I mean just kind of like I think there's maybe more reason to get married if you're getting

Brian Atlasif you're getting married to the right person and it's your first time then there's a less sure there's less if it's the first time getting married there is

Kayea less of a risk I suppose um but also like if you have kids um I mean it's I think it's better to be married why I

Kayeread in my like kids it was like Child Development or something like that and I don't know why so soft science no no no not oh not even a science okay go ahead

Kayeit's well I don't know but I just read it in my child development class and it was just basically that people who come from a um married household like have a

KayeI don't know they are more successful they can be it's not a guarantee not a guarantee but it's highly likely it's more likely that you will have a successful

Brian Atlaschild if you are married is it more likely you'll have a successful child or is it that people who are married happen

Brian Atlasto have more successful children like I don't think it causes it necessarily yeah I mean I don't I don't know for sure um was there something more that you had or was that I mean it was those

Brian Atlastwo yeah I have to read this really quick legendary trash Pand I better get legendary status for this stop interrupting stop interrupting just stop okay thank you leg legendary trash Panda really

Brian Atlasappreciate it uh okay wait so Nessa going back to you this the marriage thing kind of started with you here uh you said it was weird your friend kind of took over the conversation can you articulate why it's weird to not want to

Vanessa (2)get married well for me it's weird because I'm religious and like so coming from it from a secular point of you obviously I'm going to think it's

Vanessa (2)weird cuz for like Christians getting married is like a really big deal mhm like more of a big deal than it is secularly I think cuz it's a commit make

Brian Atlasto God as well it's a blessing is the uh let me ask the state um is the state religious the state like California no

Brian Atlasthe state the government the government no no okay uh so when you get divorced from your husband

Brian Atlasuh does your religion oversee it or does the state oversee your divorce if you're married legally through the state then the state would which most people are

Brian Atlaseven if they're religious yeah so um even if you're the most well-to-do uh Christian both of both the partners are

Brian Atlasuh very Pious and devout and you know they adhere to the faith uh in the event of a divorce that kind of all goes out the window even for religious people

Brian Atlasbecause you will the your religion does not uh does not oversee your marriage the state oversees your

Brian Atlasmarriage and also the problem with this like the whether you're traditional conservative religious uh so the state presides over your marriage not your biblical values

Brian Atlasso when the woman is unhappy she's going to go to the state not God well she should go to God right well she can go to God first but when she inev inevitably perhaps seeks out

Andrew Wilsonthe divorce she's going to go to the state and she's going to go to attorney yeah we're we're just looking at enforcement so the idea here is like you could you could morally be correct that everybody should go to the church for

Andrew Wilsontheir marriage I don't disagree with that but who ultimately has the force in this scenario it's not the church you ever seen a church enforce any type of divorce ever no because they can't so what

Andrew Wilsonyou're left with is who's the enforcement arm in this case it's the state so Brian says I don't want the state involved in my uh marriage right and I can't think of a single good

Andrew Wilson[ __ ] reason why he should not a single one and I have I have asked every woman who's ever come on whatever this

Andrew Wilsonquestion why in the world would a secularist ever get married it is the dumbest decision in modernity I could

Andrew Wilsonever think of it's almost almost 100% for for a lot of the well okay it's not almost 100% but the likelihood that this

Andrew Wilsonis going to end badly is extraordinarily high it's it if you were to ask somebody you know would you get in a automobile that you know 50% of them crash they're

Andrew Wilsonnot getting in the car and it's like why if you're not a religious individual if you don't believe in Christianity or Islam or something like this why the [ __ ] would you get married as a

Andrew Wilsonsecularist man it's beyond me and so I'll ask this panel the same question I've asked every woman's come on whatever can any of you think of a good reason why a secularist man would ever

Andrew Wilsonwant to get married in modernity a single good reason if she can make cookies like Rachel Wilson yeah you can have the cookies

Allisonwithout the marriage right I feel like that's the problem with modernity though it's that's the reason we have so many broken people because they come from broken homes or lack of commitment lack

Allisonof responsibility lack of how do you have a broken home if you don't get married a lot of people have relationship or have kids outside of wedlock and then when they decide they're done dating yeah but think

Andrew Wilsonyou're thinking about this from the Christian Perspective think of it from the secularist perspective well that's what I said I said the secularist doesn't give a [ __ ] about abortion the secularist doesn't give a [ __ ] about any of these things from a secularist standpoint if they impregnate a woman

Andrew Wilsonand it's a a securist Woman They impregnate she just goes and gets an abortion they don't have to deal with any of the Fallout from any of this right why in the world would they ever get married well why they could just give the same in fact couldn't a

Andrew Wilsonsecularist just make the Declaration we are now married and they would be like what's the governing Authority here you had something go ahead well

Vanessa (2)yeah I was going to say like yeah that makes sense cuz marriage is in a sense religious because God created marriage so like if you're someone that doesn't believe in God or follow him why why

Brian Atlaswould you follow something but I think there's actually enough even for religious Men Christian men simply by virtue of the state's

Andrew Wilsoninvolvement I think that's enough justification to be hesitant even as a religious man when it comes to marriage well it is I mean that it is that's why

Andrew Wilsonand you see the secularist rage against me for saying that there should be an ecclesiastical authority over marriage instead of a state Authority they get so enraged they can't see straight because oh oh the Rel so you're going to allow

Andrew Wilsonthe church to interfere in people's personal lives it's like as opposed to the state what makes the state better qualified to do this well I guess cuz the church isn't God God is the ultimate

Andrew WilsonAuthority so that I guess that yeah when was the last time you saw uh God come down and uh stop um well stop the state from coming in and enforcing a

Allisondivorce I guess I mean obviously not but God has obviously God has his ways of doing things through other forms and yeah

Andrew Wilsonlisten I agree with you listen I I agree that the Lord works in mysterious ways but the state is not a mystery and divorce is not a mystery and the fact

Andrew Wilsonthat most of these marriages end in divorce that's no big mystery either and the truth is that most people are setting themselves up for failure in maternity getting married absent some type of religious conviction from the

Andrew Wilsonwoman they're getting married to and an authority from a church Community which assists in marital problems there almost always setting themselves up for failure the state can't offer any of those things and doesn't so from a secularist

Allisonperspective what the [ __ ] is the point of them getting married at all then what's like what is the actual point what's the point of dating if dating is

Allisonbased off of the structure of marriage what we get dating I think is marriage without the actual full commitment you do all the things married people do why

Andrew Wilsoncouldn't you have the same commitment say that again why couldn't a sec have the same commitment why couldn't a secularist woman and a secularist man just declare that they're

Andrew Wilsonmarried and they would be well why don't they they do they do many many secularists are like nope not doing the marriage thing but I'll commit to you for the rest of my

Allisonlife I guess I've never wait what's the point of dating I mean recreational sex procreational sex I I'm saying why call it dating if you're getting the entire

Andrew Wilsonstructure of dating from the structure of marriage just without calling it that well okay so the I don't think that they consider when you say the structure of marriage a Christian marriage are you

Allisonsaying that when Christians date it's within the confines of the structure of marriage I call it courting because dating or courting would be

Allisonleading to marriage without the physical intera or intim why couldn't a secularist do the exact same thing

Allisondo they not do they do that yeah there's plenty of SEC marriage yeah there's plenty of secularist who won't have sex until marriage for all sorts of different personal reasons yeah when is

Andrew Wilsonthe turnover for them if they don't call it marriage they just say I they do call it marriage but you just said they just they just don't call it marriage to the state they say we're married we're just not married through the state

Brian Atlaswait so okay going back really quick then I'll move things on um why is it weird again what why is it why is it weird to

Vanessa (2)not get married yeah I mean if that's what you want I mean I guess it's not weird if you really don't want to get married you don't have to sure and like but I was

Vanessa (2)thinking you were saying like what's a secular reason to get married it's just cuz it mostly if you want to have kids I would think if you don't plan on ever having kids and like wait okay and you're secular I sure there's no point

Brian Atlasto get married but let say I want to have seven sons explain to me how marriage is going to facilitate that it's just like when

Brian Atlasyou're married your household is more likely to be stable than if you weren't and kids need a stable household okay so I'm dating a woman we love each other

Brian AtlasEtc what changes before marriage like what's the difference what actually

Brian Atlaschanges like like how does it become more stable because you're committed to each other what do you mean she can go she can go to step into an attorney's office the day

Vanessa (2)after so what changed is that there's now Force well because if you're secular and you're not getting married religiously or legally like how are you married okay we're not talking about that

Andrew Wilsontheir he's asking he's asking this question makes it different yeah here's here's the question he's asking he's saying they love each other they adore each other they want to be with each other forever and ever and ever and ever

Andrew Wilsonagain what changes the day after they sign a marriage contract that suddenly makes them more stable well it's a label and you can you can have the same label as in the contract women like labels that's what they want that's why they

Brian Atlaswant to be your girlfriend and that's why they want to be I'll even Grant to you that women want to get married because they feel more secure but you're

Brian Atlastalking I'm you need to make a compelling argument for why men should get married and how you feel is not a

Vanessa (2)compelling enough for reason did you want a secular point of view of that cuz yes well if they know their woman wants to feel stable and that marrying her will make her feel that way then why would you I can just reverse this and

Vanessa (2)say I would feel more stable if we didn't get married that would just nullify it cuz if you guys don't agree yeah but if you don't agree why would you even be together in the first place well you're

Kayeasking why it's well she's going to have to defer to me otherwise I mean if she keeps pushing it that's the end of the relationship I just think most high value women would want to get married and that's why you would do it if you

Kayewant to attract a high value woman I mean but if you saying women who are not inclined to get married are low value no I'm not saying that as a blanket statement but I am saying based off

Brian AtlasTrends and Analysis it seems like higher value women would want to get married why do these high value women do they and they marry high value men I'm

Brian Atlasassuming they seem to overwhelmingly end their commitments and relationships by getting divorced um not all people who get married are high value though sure absolutely but it's and also what is a

Kayehigh value woman oh I'm going to get myself in trouble here okay go

Kayeahead I don't know um like has like shares like the same morals as you um okay like is willing to I don't know

Kayecook for you I me oh she's willing to be submissive sure like but okay so she's submissive enough to follow my lead and not get

Kayemarried to her wouldn't that be reversed me I feel like that's what else though what else what else makes a high value woman um I guess just if they're willing to put

Kaye100% into the relationship yeah so okay do so she's submissive right I mean that could be part of it I know that's something for you and I've

Brian Atlasmade the determination in all my wisdom and intellect and so forth that getting a marriage under the state is the wrong move okay and so she has to defer to my

Brian Atlasdecision as the leader and if she's going to be dis uh submissive mhm wouldn't that be submissive of her to defer to my position on

Brian Atlasthis yeah but okay based base submissive girlfriend for

Brian AtlasLife crickets I mean um I'm kind of by the way T by the way TTS is $69 if you guys wanted to get it in we've lowered the TTS to 69 now now Brian I do have an

Andrew Wilsonargument yeah on behalf of secular marriage that I've never given to you let's hear it but it's going to blow you out so I just want to make sure all right you ready go ahead yeah

Andrew Wilsonfrom the Christian angle secularist should get married because they're going to get the [ __ ] kicked out of them so badly going through this marriage that their likelihood of coming to Christ will be

Brian Atlasgreater that's a new one um

Andrew Wilsonsure I guess I don't know if that's why they ought to get married and divorc because they're going to get the [ __ ] kicked out of them so badly that their chances of coming to Christ are going to

Brian Atlasbe much greater that might be my way back you never know it's an interesting one couldn't she be submissive I'll just uh I'll

Kayeaccept the argument I don't really have a rebuttal or anything it's an interesting one what what's up I was just going to say couldn't she be like submissive in every category except for be like okay but Brian if I'm going to

TTS/Donationsbe submissive you have to marry me that's her like one caveat it's not submissive to demanding Vector donated $70 thank you

TTS/DonationsVector this is now the 208th attempt at Brian trying to find a woman to date disguised as a podcast about dating it looks to me like he is still unsuccessful

Brian Atlaspoor Brian well I don't make it a habit to uh I date the women who are on the show who come on the show uh so this is

TTS/Donationsnot a podcast where I'm trying to date the uh the uh panelist but uh VOR I appreciate thank you Christ is Lord donated $69 thank you Brian if you don't want to

TTS/Donationspay on the first date for a non-traditional woman why then should a traditional woman go against her value for a non-traditional man that wants sex before marriage if I don't want to pay on the

Brian Atlasfirst date for a non-traditional woman why then should a traditional woman go against I mean if you're a traditional woman who wants marriage I'm not the guy for you look I think there

Brian Atlasthere's like this sort of uh idea here that it has to be all or nothing when it comes to being traditional uh I think it's more on a spectrum really and people will fall somewhere on

Brian Atlasthe spectrum of being traditional or non-traditional I don't claim to be 100% all the way tra towards traditional certainly not obviously Andrew calls me a degenerate I

Brian Atlashave sex before marriage heaven forbid um let's see what else I uh look you're a good friend I don't want to get married okay but that shit's [ __ ] degenerate bro it's degenerate yeah you

Brian Atlassay I'm a cummer bro you say I'm a cummer because I have oh my I I have long-term monogamous relationships and I have sex with them

Allisonwhere do you find your definition for traditional from well I don't really I don't know if I even well cuz you say it falls on a spectrum so where do you get

Brian Atlasyour traditional from where do I get tradition from what do you use well I mean like somebody who falls in line

Brian Atlasinto uh you know the sort of traditional expectations that a with people's respective uh sex so for males you're going to be more you know more masculine

Allisonyou're going to be a provider protector um how did you learn that how did you learn which what were the respective traditional

Allisonroles how did I is it just that's like okay but that's that's where our I guess our belief comes in it's God gave us those respective roles

Brian Atlasit's a hierarchy created by God well just assume you're talking to somebody who's secular I can just I can just reject your position outright well you still can't answer you

Brian Atlassay Society okay where' Society get it from well I mean we can even look to societies that are uh perhaps were more uh atheist in their conduct or even

Brian Atlassocieties that predate uh well I mean there's all kinds you know the Greeks and the Romans they had their religions and whatnot but um I mean there's a component of I think

Allisontradition that would supersede religion usually those that fall outside of what we call Tradition have imoral practice well hold on but like

Brian Atlasso while I would say that people who are religious tend to lean more traditional I'm failing to I guess follow the argument here well you said

Allisontraditional is a so traditional from religion yes cuz any any society outside of a

AllisonBiblical traditional standard has immoral practice and they usually have a lot of crazy ways of it true it could be but I mean like

Brian Atlasum would you agree that there are atheist men who are more traditional than Christian men well my whole point is where did you get your definition of

Allisontraditional Miriam Webster right but the roote of but how about you answer my question first before you ask me a question so are there some atheist men

Allisonwho are more traditional than Christian men I've come across several I honestly don't think so it might be very rare but is it possible I'm not saying it's

Allisonimpossible but there's always an exception right um okay well well I'm just wondering because you said you lean more traditional but then you said it's on a

Allisonspectrum so I said okay if you're secular and your traditional aligns with the views of biblical traditional roles

Brian Atlasthen your secular argument wait could you not be an atheist and like also look at the traditional gender Dynamics and even as an atheist come to the

Brian Atlasconclusion that this is a this is a better way of maneuvering through a relationship and through the world than like other kinds of uh relationship gender relationship Dynamics well the

Brian Atlasestablishment of those roles came from perhaps the Genesis of it stems from religion although you can even make an argument that there's a biological and

Brian Atlasevolutionary basis that has nothing to do with religion well Evol that's probably not let me ask you a question prior to any religion ever existing do

Brian Atlasyou think that the men and women the way they conducted themselves was traditional say that one more time sorry

Brian AtlasI'm prior to the uh coming about of any religion whether it's predates Christianity even uh do you think that

Allisonpeople in were traditional I think we in the [ __ ] I don't know in they cavemen or some [ __ ] I think we had our natural roles based on our creation and our

Brian Atlasabilities our abilities they were given to us it's just same well let's assume there was a an island where uh you put a group of

Brian Atlaspeople and you know maybe they were very young and they were not uh told about any sort of religion right wouldn't it stand to reason that the sort of

Brian Atlastraditional Dynamics in which you find desirable uh or that comport themselves to uh chist theology or Christian faith

Brian Atlasor that are more uh similar to that or that what's how's the best way to frame this uh would it

Brian Atlasbe would it be unlikely that a traditional dynamic between these people on this island could it not manifest itself absent

Allisonreligion I mean my answer is probably going to annoy but the reason that would occur is because of the way we were created so

Allisonour abilities would naturally establish a hierarchy based on our creation wait can I ask you a question let's say there was like a

Brian Atlasum let's say there was a civilization uh are you familiar with the Stines I've heard of it not

Brian Atlasfamiliar uh there this uh I think the most uh uncontacted tribe it's uh a territory of India it's uh I don't know the exact precise location but it's

Brian Atlascalled the North Sentinel Island uh they're uncontacted they're not familiar with Christianity at all as far as I know um I mean

Brian Atlaswould they probably have some degree of traditional gender Dynamics in their uncontacted society okay okay so what does Christianity have to

Allisondo with them and their traditional the way they perhaps more traditionally conduct themselves well with or without someone believing in it it doesn't negate the fact of we have our

Allisonrespective roles based on who created us and how we were created that's why men are typically a more dominant role because they created in God's image so that's why they're stronger

Allisonsmarter uh leaders and that's why you have women go down the next chain they were created in the likeness of man but they're lesser so that's why we're weaker but we have other strengths meant

Allisonto nurture then you go down the chain you have children so Bas women are not um not even from the Christian Paradigm women are not lesser well lesser in the sense of when I say lesser I mean the argument

TTS/Donationsthat people make like they're physically weaker toilla donated $69 what's another name for coming inside a woman loading the W nice that was children well by that

Andrew Wilsonargument then you would be saying that CH that children are lesser so perhaps that's just not the verbage that you want to use right or perhaps just not the word you want to use ontologically women are and children are every bit as

Andrew Wilsonvaluable as men are right they have the same value as men uh there's a hierarchy of order I think that's what you're alluding to right yeah yeah

Andrew Wilsonokay okay um I mean [ __ ] I get called a misogynist all the time even I don't think women have a lesser value than men right I just think that there's a

TTS/Donationshigher Christ his Lord donated $69 Andrew regarding the Paradox if a woman has been redeemed what argument justifies her to continue engaging in

TTS/Donationsdepraved and sinful acts against God because her man says it's not fair nothing but that actually uh moves into the Paradox so the great paradox is from

Andrew Wilsonfrom the perspective of the secularist think about it think about it from both angles you're only thinking about it from your angle from your angle you say but she's reformed she's come to Christ and she doesn't want to do that type of

Andrew Wilsonbehavior anymore that's totally valid Brian would agree that that's completely valid but he also would say it's really funny though that you came to Christ

Andrew Wilsonbefore you were dating me and all these other men were able to get between those legs within the first three dates and I have to wait for 6 months it seems like

Andrew Wilsonit's awful convenient so while it's true that inside of a vacuum we can say yes that's what we want women to do and I agree with that 100% you're not going to

Andrew Wilsonbe able to displace the argument from Brian that isn't that awful convenient that you do it just before you start dating me right so I guess I suppose

Andrew Wilsonevery uh in every woman who reforms there has to be the first one Brian just says I don't want to be that one right and isn't it super hard to blame

Allisonhim that's where the Paradox comes in it's like who's going to blame him well I have a question so I I agree with Brian's point but say when she was

Allisonliving that life she was a of lower value meaning she brought less to the table and then she went through a period of growth and maturity she held off from it cuz obviously she can't wipe away her past and then decides you know she's

Andrew Wilsongoing to approach relationships differently while also trying to bring more to the table what would you say this is um this is an argument which is

Andrew Wilsonnow being had in almost every major Metropolitan uh Protestant Church Orthodox and Catholic Church ac across

Andrew Wilsonthe country just in very hushed Whispers there is a slew now of women because so many are have been some form of sex

Andrew Wilsonworker at this point the number is staggering who later regret this decision and move over into Christianity

Andrew Wilsonbut the Christian men's perspective on this is that I still do not want to date her because she was a sex worker right and so the women complain

Andrew Wilsonbut wait I was forgiven for my sins which is true you were forgiven Christ forgives and forever more uh may you find uh you know all of the joy in life

Andrew Wilsonthat you deserve but that does not entitle you to a husband who does not prefer to have a sex worker nor a woman with a high body count and so what

Andrew Wilsonhappens is women go to the church for a shield but for the wrong Shield they're supposed to go to the church for a shield of Faith so that they can enter

Andrew Wilsoninto the kingdom of heaven and repent humbly of their sin they're not supposed to go to church to get a shield from criticism for being [ __ ] that is not

Andrew Wilsonwhat that is there for and so this debate rages where the feminists have infiltrated the church and stated no these women deserve the kind of husband

Andrew Wilsonbecause they have reformed that they want uh but that is simply not the case Jesus you get the salvation for the sin that you've done when you humbly go to the church and request forgiveness does

Brian Atlasnot entitle you to a husband who is going to look past the Demons of your past he doesn't have to deal with that and if I I want to add to what Andrew's

Brian Atlassaying uh so like former only fans girls sex workers high body count promiscuous women they can be saved by Christ but

Brian AtlasChristian men do not need to then disregard their baggage and marry them and I think that these are completely

Allisoncompatible well I guess I was talking about aside from the baggage her

Allisonmorally and value-wise increasing like like I said bringing more to the table like okay everything you want in a woman I feel like Andrew's answered this

Andrew Wilsonbefore but everything you want in a woman but she was misled in her younger years and made then it's not everything you want in a woman it's contradiction in terms so you can imagine me saying

Andrew Wilsonthat the highest highest priority I have as a woman let's say in Brian's case he says one of the highest values I have is a woman who has a very low Bing count and you say okay but what if it's the perfect woman absent this thing my

Andrew Wilsonargument to you would be well then it's not the perfect woman right because it doesn't fall within the guidelines of what he considers a perfect woman to be which is a low body count so what happens is this great circle right but

Andrew Wilsonwait I'm now I'm now everything that you wanted that's great but what about the fact that you still have this criteria that I want less than any other criteria and so I don't know how women

Andrew Wilsonoffset that I just want to let you know men are completely revolted by women with high body counts it's ingrained and here's why it's ingrained it's ingrained because men only recently could be assured of paternity that's a recent

Andrew Wilsoninvention where you could go get a paternity test and know that your ospring was yours that's that was elusive to Men Kings would have given kingdoms to have known if the Prodigy

Andrew Wilsonwas theirs or not if The Offspring was there theirs or not um now we can do this but it's so ingrained in us that we

Andrew Wilsonhave a woman who is completely and totally monogamous to us only so that we can assure The Offspring is ours that we

Andrew Wilsonfind it completely revolting if they have a high body count because from from our perspective it almost assures The Offspring will not be ours and we will end up being

Allisoncuckolded the Assurance of The Offspring not being yours would that be because you can't trust her to not be promiscuous in the precepts of the relationship yeah right so the the less women or the less

Andrew Wilsonmen a woman has been with right the more assurance that imagine there's no paternity test tell me how you guarantee that the child from a man's perspective think of it only from a man's

Allisonperspective there's no paternity test you tell me the criteria you would use to assure that your Offspring was yours yeah that makes sense I can't I can't say anything to that that makes

Andrew Wilsonperfect sense makes perfect sense right so then wouldn't it make sense also that you were completely revolted there was a a revolting aspect to women who had been

Andrew Wilsonwith a lot of men because that ingrained in a man assures them that they push away the women who could not assure The Offspring is theirs yeah I guess what my question was

Allisonwas like say there's a break in the track record like a a good set of time meaning like I'll give a time frame to make it easier to understand a lot of girls in

Allisonhigh school now specifically are being fed these terrible morals and values and really immature and don't understand the consequences of it then they finally and

Allisonwhat uh what sex are most of the teachers in high school by the way female and male so who's teaching all these women to be [ __ ] I wonder well okay that I completely agree with

Allisontrust me we could agree on that but I guess my point would be she was had no guidance and was led by the world found Christ and was saved

Allisonfrom those ideas but because beforehand I guess so this would be outside of sex work I guess you could say this would be immature PR

Allisonpromiscuity but then decided to go the right way and showed a track record of let's say celibacy then would that still fall

Andrew Wilsonunder the point that you made cuz you're talking about yes it falls under the same point I'll explain how very quickly right it it really doesn't Christ will

Andrew Wilsonsave your soul okay and Christ will bring you Joy and there really is no pathway as far as I'm concerned in life other than Jesus Christ he is the Lord and savior of all things it's not going

Andrew Wilsonto ever negate the fact that a man is going to be disgusted by the fact you [ __ ] 50 dudes and you can say well wait but I only did that 10 years ago cuz I

Andrew Wilsonwas misled that sucks I'm sorry that you were misled and I'm sorry that you [ __ ] well not you right I'm just saying the hypothetical woman we're talking about I would say I'm sorry that you [ __ ] 50

Allisonguys because you were misled but how does that entitle you to me I guess I'm just you guys are thinking really high numbers I guess in my mind I'm not thinking that high because in my mind well whatever it is let's say it's it's

Andrew Wilson10 let's say it's five and five is too many let's say it's one and one is too many how are you entitled in any way shape or form to a Man drawing the boundary that they don't want to be with

Andrew Wilsona woman who's ever been with a man besides themselves just because they've been saved by Christ that doesn't even make sense right that doesn't even make sense when you think about it right I wasn't saying it was like an entitlement

Andrew WilsonI guess I was just asking your perspective on that there's men who will look past all sorts of things and God bless them okay God bless those men who will look past all sorts of things but

Andrew Wilsonhere's the truth the truth is is that most aren't going to most aren't going to most men who are in churches and they want to find a woman of Faith who shares

Andrew Wilsontheir same values are running into this wall over and over again where it turns out that this woman is a multi-tier divorce a single mom former sex worker this and that they don't want that [ __ ]

Andrew Wilsonthey don't want it and the thing is is that they rage they literally are pounding on the glass every day they're like you [ __ ] you guys got to stop this think about your future you know what women say it's fine I'll be rich

Andrew Wilsonthat's fine I'll be rich you know how much money I make on only fans I'll be rich Brian has done a call to action now I've counted I've counted right he's done it over 20 times while I've been on the program 20 times he's done a call to

Andrew Wilsonaction to women will you quit your only fans career after now knowing the information that you did not have before and you know what they always say every single time flat out no yeah so they

Andrew Wilsondon't care so they don't care and if they don't care about their own future then why should I care about them being damned by it they damn themselves they

Andrew Wilsonjust go I don't care because don't who who gives a [ __ ] that's 10 years from now and as we all know every woman on planet Earth is going to be even hotter in 10 years they're going to be even

Andrew Wilsonhotter in 20 years just ask them they're going to be the hottest [ __ ] that's ever existed in 20 years all you got to do is ask them right they all say the same [ __ ] and then Lo behold Panda donated

Andrew Wilson$69 sorry I'll skip it go ahead God good yeah then lo and behold what ends up happening the 20 years H hits and they're like [ __ ] I'm not hotter [ __ ] I do have a lot of baggage damn I really

Andrew Wilsonprobably shouldn't have put naked pictures of me sticking a dildo up my vagina on the internet boy that really came back to bite me in the ass and men go they just kind of shrugg right

Background Voicethey're like but everybody [ __ ] told you and the women are like yeah but I did listen but don't worry it's okay now cuz I'm safe by Christ okay yeah that that's pretty Del

TTS/DonationsI do have to move things on let some of these chats come in the legendary trash Panda donated $69 look bricks and real talk Discord popping off we got 20 people in Discord

TTS/Donationson this drinking game must be much love bro also chair one I will worship your feet keep adjusting your belt now carry

TTS/Donationson uh there's three more coming through by the way three more coming through schas donated $69 I can imagine the percentage chance of this traditional low body count woman

TTS/Donationsis lower than the gold digging huge mouthed girl from earlier finding a man low body count women want to get married

TTS/Donationsthank you schl schl the legendary trash panda9 look bricks and real talk Discord

TTS/Donationspopping off we got 20 people in Discord on this drinking game much love BR also chair one I will worship your feet keep adjusting your belt now carry on okay

Andrew Wilsonokay but here's the thing there's another one coming in just if you're doing a drinking game in Discord after the show I'm coming Larry rolds donated $69 yo Larry than I agree with Andrew so

TTS/Donationsthen how do we keep pop growth from going to zero import more third worlders still have to solve the social problem NOP that won't work either because their

Andrew Wilsonbirth rates drop down to the same as all domestic US citizens within a generation it doesn't work and birth rates in the third world are dropping as well right

Andrew Wilsonthe only cure for this is to push Christian values against degeneracy there's nothing else that can be done the nihilists have no answers for this we've lived under Progressive Rule and look what it's done it's a nightmare

Andrew Wilsonit's it's literally a dystopian nightmare most of these women and Brian I think can attest to this you tell me if I'm way off Bas but most of these women in 20 years are going to [ __ ] regret all the [ __ ] that they tell you

Andrew Wilsonto your face right now that is totally fine and they love and they enjoy and you can't stop them no matter what you say am I wrong I don't think you're wrong Andrew I don't think you're wrong

Brian Atlasuh yo Bob Evans thank you for the gifted 20 memberships really appreciate it thank you Bob Evans you're Legend W's in the chat for Bob Bobby boy uh let's see let's get back to Nessa here um well we've already kind of talked about the

Brian Atlasmarriage stuff you said you'd like to talk about the importance of traditional gender roles and the downplay of the value of intimacy in society nowadays you believe uh people should date for marriage you believe respecting your husband and loving your wife are some of the most important things a couple can

Brian Atlasdo for their marriage you're from a broken home and have you seen this play out in your parents marriage oh wait I I apologize I already read that um you was in terms of the disagreements you said the intensity black and whiteness of

Brian Atlassome of the hosts takes uh you believe there's gray area was there anything else besides the marriage thing not really that's it yeah you said some of

Vanessa (2)the hosts takes which makes me think that there's more than just one yeah like maybe if you were if you had brought up another topic cuz like what about the bow video Let's have you seen the bow video no I haven't seen you

Brian Atlasdon't know about the bow video let's do the bow video really quick before we do the bow video though guys I have a I have a good one to go around to Brian when you get a chance sure sure uh really quick though guys like the video please also guys drop us a follow on

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Andrew Wilsonthank you for the follow appreciate it okay um um and then ran real quick yes real quick I'm going to hijack the show

Andrew Wilsonjust for a second I'm going I'm going to throw whatever modum of clout uh and friendship I have with Brian to make a very quick emotional appeal to the

Andrew Wilsonentire audience I'm asking all of you to go out November 5th and vote for Donald J Trump and my argument is very simple and I'm sure the host can disavow this and of course whatever is not responsible what

Andrew WilsonI'm about to say I do not want to listen to KLA Harris's [ __ ] voice for 4 years it sounds like a dystopian nightmare she's

Andrew Wilsonawful in every conceivable way listening to this woman talk for 4 years my job I'm a political commentator please save

Andrew Wilsonme from this save Brian and every human being from having to Listen to This Woman's obnoxious voice for 4 years I beg all of you to go to the polls

Andrew WilsonNovember 5th and make sure you cast your ballot for one Donald J Trump so that we don't have to hear that [ __ ] that's it

Brian Atlasran no objections at all from me by the way me and Andrew are going to be doing a election day stream election day stream can't wait for it y That's so

Brian Atlasthere there's not going to be a dating talk on that Tuesday November the 5th but me and Andrew are going to be co- streaming uh election day stream so be

Brian Atlassure to tune in for that and uh thank you Andrew for the for the uh uh PSA Public Service Announcement I guess um okay uh Nessa you said your ex was a

Brian Atlaslittle intense and was very opinionated he would make jokes that would make you sad he also came from a broken home and the consequences of that showed a lot in the way he navigated the relationship he

Brian Atlasrequired a lot of respect and attention that myself at the time wasn't providing yeah wait are you able to like shift your chair to like be a little more face and straight just because the mic's kind

Brian Atlasof cutting your face off so turn the mic a little bit too just so it's like you can tilt it up a little bit um so when you say your ex was intense

Brian Atlaswhat do you mean like aggressive but not like aggressive and you said very opinionated do you mean politically opinionated no just

Vanessa (2)like everything else like he would be like I don't like that and if I didn't agree with him he was like upset he would get like butt hurt he would get

Brian Atlasbutt hurt okay um you said that uh he required a lot of respect and attention that you at the time you weren't providing you were so

Vanessa (2)you weren't respecting him no but I was also like 16 and I didn't really want to be told what to do okay okay

Brian Atlasum do you respect your current partner you've been dating for 17 months yes okay all right well I don't know if there's anything did you before I mve it on was there any other of the

Brian Atlasdisagreements that you had like with you or Andrew or with not that I can think of about thep okay let's do the bow video I mentioned that let's do the bow video

Brian Atlasyeah and we'll probably play Boom so this is actually my ex-girlfriend guys so I have the expectation that as soon as I step into my penthouse

Brian Atlasapartment uh I want a bow she also does my laundry for me in fact on a first date I the girl should be doing laundry but that's another conversation was this

Brian Atlasskit No this is the I mean I recorded it just to show you like so she's got the food ready she cracked open my beer stirred my

Andrew Wilsonnoodles um Brian it can't be your ex-girlfriend I can I can point out that I I I'm going to catch you in a lie uh right here live on whatever I'm pretty

Brian Atlasconfident that that chick has fake breasts she so she got the fake breast um that's actually why we broke

Brian Atlasup that was the last she surprised me she surprised me I was gone for a month and I you know I get home and I take this

Brian Atlasvideo um that's why she was stirring the noodles so in intensely because she knew she [ __ ] up and then after that video I dumped her after I wait so this was an

Brian Atlasapology bow no no no that was the normal bow okay that was the normal bow but then I I ate the food first and the beer then I dumped her wow makes sense okay

Brian Atlasyeah so that's my ex-girlfriend um what would you guys would you bow for your boyfriend husband starting with you yes but he wouldn't ask me to

Allisondo that cuz it's kind of weird but yes you would do it I would yeah would you bow maybe as like a joke between us I don't know if I I don't know if I want

Allisonto give you that out let's say it's it's good intentioned if he was everything if he was everything I wanted in a man sure okay

Brian Atlasum I guess so you guys scoot into the table please go ahead probably and I'd also suck his toes what so there's that Yes sounds like you

Kayehave kid before okay that's cool what about you proba um yes and we already do Bow at each other so sweet absolutely not would not bow you're even to your

Brian Atlashusband absolutely not wait I love my husband okay we'll come right back to that would you bow for yes for okay all right you're the kind of the the one person out here uh your your

Brian Atlashusband wait question you consider yourself like a submissive woman though um in certain ways I guess not traditionally are but you're you're like

Brian Atlasconservative are you are you Christian no oh you're not Christian okay um okay um so wouldn't bow to so your husband like in that video you don't have to do

Brian Atlasthat other [ __ ] like the scampering around and doing the you know running after the clothes and the food whatever just that 3 seconds the bow no why why

Meganwhat's the point of it he finds it respectful I don't I would never be with a man who would need me to bow to him so

Andrew Wilsonyou divorce you ever get on your knees and let him jizz on your face Andrew oh my gosh I'm not answering that question no I mean I think chances are pretty good

Andrew Wilsonyou probably do I just I think that that's a lot more over the top than a [ __ ] bow and that's the argument I make is that is well I mean you roll your eyes but I mean isn't it a little more over

Andrew Wilsonthe top to get on your knees and take a load to the face than to give a bow I I agree with you oh whoops my bad I'm I'm not disagreeing yeah but no I still

Brian Atlaswouldn't bow my husband oh well I'm curious you should try it like when you see him just do it one once just like as like a joke you know just be like hey babe I was on this like toxic podcast

Andrew Wilsonand do the bow my husband's probably watching this podcast being like what do what's up be yeah and you know what he's thinking right now is he's like yeah that guy Andrew just made a really good point argument valid he's like wait a second he's right wait a second that's a

Andrew Wilsonreally good point that that guy just made wait wait a minute that's what literally I'm going to I'm telling you this right you're going to go home and you're going to be you're going to be like how did I do on the P he's going to be like he great honey it was a lot of

Andrew Wilsonfun he really stood out he's going to say all the [ __ ] right but in his mind right this second as he's watching this he's like and thaty that guy has a really good [ __ ] point wait she'll she literally a load on the F but won't

AllisonB like that makes no sense he's thinking I'm telling you the gears are he's thinking still no no M wouldn't do it okay all right I have a question was that like an everyday expectation the

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