01:51:54Brian Atlaswill view sleeping with somebody quickly in and of itself as promiscuous but in terms of the uh number of sexual partners I don't think it's actually necessarily an indicator it's a pretty good [ __ ]
01:52:07Kayeindicator I think there's better indicators there's far better indicators that goes back to my question of like what is it like okay Brian if if if you're so you're at a bar and a chick comes over and she sits down with you
01:52:19Andrew Wilsonand by the end of the night you're going home with her it's a pretty good indicator yeah I don't go to bars yeah but if you were at a bar or anywhere in any social set whatever it was well
01:52:29Brian Atlashere's the thing though here's the thing Andrew the I I would say that her being in a bar is a bigger indicator of her promiscuity then how quickly she will
01:52:40Andrew Wilsonsleep with somebody okay but in any social setting any social setting in which he went home with the woman the same night I would say it's a pretty good indicator that she's done that before or has at the very least had
01:52:53Brian Atlasother sexual partners and probably many of them to be that sexually loose well let's examine the reverse scenario so let's say a woman who you meet in one of these venues or at church or some other
01:53:05Brian Atlasyou know respectable place I suppose uh grocery store Trader Joe's you meet her and she wants to wait until marriage is this an indicator that she does not have
01:53:14Andrew Wilsona promiscuous past no right hang on no you hang on Andrew well hang on I just responded though okay so so I'll say this I think if you met a
01:53:26Andrew Wilsonwoman at a Traitor Joe's who said that she wanted to uh you know date you long term and didn't want to sleep with you immediately that while that wouldn't be an indicator that she hasn't slept with many many people it would be a better indicator that she hasn't then if she's
01:53:39Andrew Wilsonwilling to go home with you the same night of and I think that you would agree with that yeah sure I mean it it can be used as so all we're looking is CH is at chance right I'm going to agree
01:53:49Andrew Wilsonwith you I'm going to agree with you that it that it's not 100% you know unfalsifiable so you could have the one chick you're her SEC second or even first sexual partner she wants to go
01:54:01Andrew Wilsonhome with you that very night I just think that that's far more rare uh than it isn't and I think that the chances that a woman wants to go home with you night one is a better indicator of promiscuity than if you met her at a
01:54:14Andrew Wilsonrandom Trader Joe's and she said that she wasn't didn't want to sleep with you immediately would I mean doesn't that track yeah sure I'll certainly grant that
01:54:23Andrew Wilsonthat it could be an indicator it doesn't mean a woman could be a virgin and sleep with a guy immediately to but I don't think that I'm just I'm just I'm just asking about chances don't you think the
01:54:35Andrew WilsonChan are better just better oh sure of course of course so when she says to get the spirit of of kind of her criticism she's saying well look you
01:54:46Andrew Wilsonknow if a if a woman does want to sleep with you within the first three days that may be a better indicator that she has a loose pass though in Brian's defense right and not even Playing
01:54:56Andrew Wilsondevil's advocate here because I believe this 100% uh in modernity that's actually very difficult to tell now because women will go the Chastity route
01:55:06Andrew Wilsonon a dime even having had 60 or 70 former partners uh because they don't want to disappoint their the the man that they don't want the man to think badly of them right so they make them
01:55:18Andrew Wilsonwait that's been a very common theme that I've heard uh throughout this show so I think there's a point both ways but to to ask you directly here's the Brian
01:55:28Andrew WilsonParadox that I can't reconcile and maybe you can help me with this uh many many women will will say listen I don't want to sleep with you immediately because I
01:55:40Andrew Wilsonthink you will think worse of me I want to I'm just not going to because then you'll think that I'm a [ __ ] right uh isn't that then making Brian's point that ordinarily they would do this
01:55:52Kayethey're just basically adjusting for the outcome that they want I mean it it could but I don't think that's the case most of the time what do you mean I think it is well I think sometimes I used to think I used to think like you
01:56:04Andrew Wilsondid I used to think like you did until having talked to so many women at this point it's very common that women will rack up these high body counts in their
01:56:13Andrew Wilson20s and then in their late 20s or early 30s they will uh then say okay I'm chass or I'm not going to have sex anymore or because I've slept with men very quickly
01:56:24Andrew Wilsonbefore I don't want that kind of guy anymore I don't want the Playboy I want more of a like kind of down to earth guy or nor nor or whatever right about if that is hang on hang on let me finish real quick and then I'll let you jump in
01:56:36Andrew WilsonI promise uh if that is the case and it does seem to be the case then I mean Brian's Paradox does stand which is like what do you do about that about the fact
01:56:46Londonthat so many women will only become kind of chased because they don't want the man think poorly of them sleeping with them too quickly what about the women who
01:56:58Londonactually like saved theirself in their 20s and teens and was just in 30s and then once they got to 40 realized like all men are terrible then they had their
01:57:09Londonlittle get in their groove back type what about them women because men are everyone they met was just trash and didn't deserve them what about them what about them what about them what you mean
01:57:20Londonwhat about them they deserve love too because those y'all don't speak on them though you speak up so you speak on what you're attracted to you're attracted to a women who sleep with you the first day you're meeting the [ __ ]
01:57:33Londonthat [ __ ] all in their 20s and stuff it's women out here not like that yeah I agree that there's women out there who aren't like that so wait what what about them meaning what you're saying is just
01:57:45Londonwhat you're looking for that's my point my what I see you're saying when everything you're describing I don't even know like that's terrible women so that's what you're looking for no I listen I agree with you yeah that's what he's
01:57:58Andrew Wilsonlooking for and what he's going to get those are terrible women well well hang on listen I you well youve you've made kind of a conflation here so I agree with you on one point and then disagree on a second point the point that I agree
01:58:10Andrew Wilsonwith you on is yes a lot of [ __ ] horrible women right a lot of horrible women bet the point I don't agree with you on is that um because because a woman's willing to sleep with you quickly that means she has a high body
01:58:23Londoncount that I don't think that I didn't say that he said that I don't think that because she can like you more than everybody else what is your objection because she can like you more than everybody else and you was the one
01:58:34Londonperson that she allowed to be that way with yeah I agree the objection was that he's going to meet that because like every woman he's describing he's like oh and they get and then when they get old
01:58:46Londonthey want to be this I'm saying what about the ones who are already like that and then fed up and got old and probably got fast th and started to sleep with people that stal well I I will well I'll
01:58:58Andrew Wilsongrant that such women exist where they stay chased throughout their 20s and 30s and then go you're looking for the ones that sleep with you the first night that's why hang on I just let you go I
01:59:08Andrew Wilsonjust let them talk let them talk I will grant to you that those women exist I just think it's far more common in the reverse that women usually go through their whole phase in their 20s not in
01:59:18Andrew Wilsontheir 40s you would agree with me there right um I don't because I mean they're the most pursued in their 20s so if they're the most pursu their chances of having sex increase drastically that's
01:59:30Londonwhy most women in their 20s go through it not in their 40s well well I can't believe that because I'm a woman in her 20s who don't do that so I yeah I know but what about your peer group a lot of them they well yeah and there's some
01:59:41Andrew Wilsonthat don't too yeah there's some that don't I agree with that too so I feel like it's half and half so let me just ask it to you like this don't you think that it's far more likely you're going to run into a woman in her 20s who's
01:59:54Andrew Wilsongoing through a ho phase then run into a woman in her 40s who went through NO phase hang hang hang on hang on let me finish the question how do you even know how to answer it if I can't even finish it so uh don't you think it would be
02:00:06Andrew Wilsonmore common to run into a woman in her 20s going through a whole phase than a woman in her 40s who went through NO phase that's the question you said rougher to find love yeah wouldn't it be
02:00:19Andrew Wilsoneasier to find a woman in her 20s going through phase a woman are 40s who went through NO phase no because it's innocent women everywhere yeah that's not my question I
02:00:30Andrew Wilsondidn't ask if they exist which is more common which is more Comm I don't think it's more common you think it's more common that women go go through to the without ever having any sexual partners
02:00:40Londonthat's no data Bears this out anywhere you see how when I talk you don't let me finish then you interrupt me but as soon as I can talk right now I'm let and all you're doing is using your time to
02:00:51Londoncomplain just okay it's women everywhere it's 4 billion people in the world like it's women who [ __ ] no there's a billion
02:01:01Londonpeople 8 billion people in the world okay eight okay great oh you you couldn't wait for that huh that's a jokey joke joke got you well as your English
02:01:12Londonteacher I have to correct you on these things you're right Mr bilon you're right Mr wil Mr Wilson get it you're right okay but listen it's women who live in a freaking Cottage who's not
02:01:25Londonthinking about none of that and they just used to living in a cottage so no I wouldn't say that's have of women I would say wherever you live that's them women and then wherever he lives that's them women and I think that's what you're pursuing and that's what you get
02:01:38Londonand what you're looking for like you said women you want a millionaire you want this it's delusion I think you're delusional as well okay well then now you agree that I just let you go through that let me just ask you a few yes yes
02:01:50Andrew Wilsonor no questions right none of them are going to be pre-loaded meaning I'm not I'm not loading them up with like presuppositions okay just basic gu no questions do you agree that women
02:02:01Andrew Wilsongenerally are more attractive in their 20s than in their 40s not all women just generally women are more attractive in their agree January yeah usually usually yeah yeah yeah I agree with that okay so
02:02:13Andrew Wilsonif that is the case then wouldn't that necessarily expand the amount of sexual partners available to women in their 20s Noe cuz when you're beautiful you nope
02:02:24Londoncuz when you're beautiful I would know Listen to Beautiful broke my skill woman I personally feel like when you're beautiful it's harder cuz you don't know who to give your love to you don't know
02:02:36Londonwho to give your anything to so you hold out more because they don't deserve it and you don't want to give it to the wrong person okay listen listen hang on there's a couple of uh presuppositions there which are wrong or just
02:02:48Andrew Wilsonsuppositions that are wrong so the first one is most women are are not over the over the top beautiful that's insane you even you have to agree that most women
02:02:58Andrew Wilsonare not 10 out of 10 otherwise hang on otherwise we wouldn't have an average so the thing is is that if most of aage hang on let me finish the bad is let me finish if most of them are average
02:03:11Andrew Wilsonthey're still going to be more attractive in their 20s than in their 40s which we agreed which means that even the average woman is still going to have way more access to sexual partners
02:03:20Londonin their 20s and their 40s right average doesn't mean you're not [ __ ] though like that's my that's my point my point you're saying the more attractive though
02:03:31Andrew Wilsonand I'm saying that doesn't mean like what you're saying about looks don't mean that they're in and doing it more cuz they're in their 20s and young it's not about yeah they're more if they're more attractive and they're average
02:03:44Andrew Wilsonthey're still average in their 40s they're just also average in their 20s because some people get better with you already agreed that most women are
02:03:53Londonmore traic 4S you already agreed to that some people get better with age and shoot they get surgery and stuff and start looking better sometimes then why
02:04:05Londondid you just say that women on average in their 20s are better looking than they are in their 40s you said is it true majority are yes but I said that don't mean they're sleeping with people and being fast I said you could be
02:04:17Andrew Wilsonaverage getting [ __ ] and you could be uh any type of look getting [ __ ] would you understand that your own logic says that the women who are in their 20s are more attractive they have more access sexual partners therefore that's but that don't mean they're using what they
02:04:29Andrew Wilsongot I just listen got let them finish you got let them finish go ahead if that is the case that there's more attractive in their 20s they have more access to more sexual partners that would explain
02:04:40Andrew Wilsonwhy it is that they have more sex in their 20s with more sexual partners than in their 40s is because of availability I still don't agree I don't
02:04:50Londoneven like me personally no no based on my life I don't think I at my 20 how you feel that's anec yeah cuz at my 20s I didn't do much so I
02:05:01Andrew Wilsonthink people say that and I don't that's not true all right let me ask you're not young fine in your 20s okay well okay so I'm answering from a 20year old who a lot of people like I I get it I get it
02:05:13Andrew Wilsonyou're not fast and loose great right I'm asking I'm going to ask you a direct question though and I'm hoping you don't lie to me on this one okay out of all of your friend friends in your peer group out of all your friends in your peer group and all of your acquaintances in
02:05:25Andrew Wilsonyour peer group are around the same age as you and female how many of them are loose are loose meaning they have multiple sexual partners um I don't know cuz I keep my just guess guess I
02:05:38Londonpersonally don't know people not going to tell me cuz I'm I'm more of like I'm not I'm a more of an innocent friend I've always been like that like yeah I got a big mouth and I could talk and
02:05:49Londondebate but that don't mean I'm fast yes just guess that doesn't mean I'm fast so what's your best get I they don't tell me anything when you're the GU when you're the goody too everyone's not going to tell you they're oh I slept
02:06:02Londonwith that dude in the bathroom last night at the party they're not going to tell you so like you don't know everyone life and I'm telling you my friends don't tell me so from what I know how many okay how many of your close friends
02:06:14Andrew Wilsonyou have how many would you say that you have at least two best friends I have one best friend and my dog is my other best friend does does any of your best friends or your very close friends have multiple sexual partners and now go
02:06:28Londonahead and lie to me and say you guys never talk about sex so I can go ahead and dismiss the next thing you say right go ahead just say Andrew have I had a friend have I had a friend who had
02:06:38Andrew Wilsonmultiple sex partners yes everyone has had a friend [ __ ] I could be that's not what I asked you I didn't ask you if you've ever had a friend had multiple sexual partners I asked you since you never talked to any of the acquaintances
02:06:50Andrew Wilsonthat you know about sex she the only woman on planet Earth doesn't talk about with your friends about sex uh the close ones at least I would assume you do no
02:06:58Londonmy close ones are no my close ones are dealing with the same guys currently so yes the close they had multiple sexual partners in in the past I don't know you
02:07:10Londondon't know okay other people's sexuality is not my business like what they're doing mhm I'm just I can only speak about me I know
02:07:25Andrew Wilson[Music] okay I mean the reason that you the reason that you have like the um the this smile going is because you know and I know and
02:07:36Background Voicethe audience knows you're full of [ __ ] and you know for sure which one of your friends have had multiple sex partners you guys talk about sex and you're lying through your teeth your teeth you don't
02:07:48Londoneven know if I have friends what if my dog's my said you had friends I said and I said no that she's talking to like the ones I'm around they're talking to the same people that they've been talking to
02:07:59Londonand dealing with so what you don't know them women life mhm how many years have you been friends with them um the current ones right now m not that long I
02:08:10Londonmoved here and my current friends are from LA and I just moved to LA last year so nobody longer than a year okay so like I said I don't know I don't know
02:08:21Londonpeople past but I know what's going on now and the ones I'm around now they're talking to the same people if they decide to have numerous ones later that's on them what they tell me look I don't I can't I can't do anything to
02:08:34Andrew Wilsonhave even a rational conversation with you if every time I ask you a question you lie to me like I can't I can't so here's the thing I'm going to point outes that you I'm going to point out
02:08:46Andrew Wilsonmultiple lies here's lie number one right when I literally asked you are women generally more attract active in their 20s and in their 40s you say yes I say well then that gives them access to more sexual partners so why wouldn't they go through the whole phase in their
02:08:57Andrew Wilson20s rather than their 40s you still disputed this based on nothing because they're more attractive meala is you have to agree with that
02:09:08Londonright to me just a logical entailment just cuz you're more attractive in your 20s don't mean you're having more sex in your 20s you just assume that no just generally people who get better with
02:09:19Andrew Wilsongenerally you are it's people how when you have the highest liido and sex how can you explain that to me said in the world in the age where you
02:09:31Londonhave the most amount of libido and you're the most attractive are you having the least amount of sex can you explain that to me because men don't deserve it they're like y'all they're like y'all fast fast he fast he don't
02:09:44Londonwant you look at the questions they asking you I never even watch your podcast now I know you're a [ __ ] because of how they explained it she told on you she to on you I want to know who's
02:09:53Brian Atlassleeping the the conversations you guys are having is letting me know the type of me you are stop go ahead and say what you're what you just said I said I would love to know who's sleeping with you in
02:10:05Andrew Wilsonone to three dates I don't actually care typ of woman is sleeping with you want three and are they on any
02:10:14Londonsubstance what um this is La you just got to ask wait is that why you ask me if I do m he's like oh I can take her back later
02:10:27Kayeum Brian can I ask though like how long would you like Max wait for someone if they were a virgin and you were dating them he's like I wouldn't a vir would I wait if they were a virgin if they were
02:10:36Brian Atlasa virgin would you even date a virgin sure yeah I've dated virgins before okay I mean it it really varies you know uh
02:10:45Brian Atlasif I really like her you like her if I really like her if it's kind of lukewarm you know it's hard to pinpoint a number on it typically though I mean in terms
02:10:58Kayeof what I'm looking for in a relationship uh I'm not really interested in Waiting long periods of time before having sex what if she like folds your laundry stirs your noodles
02:11:07Brian Atlaslike sure she can get she can she can uh get a couple extra dates out of me probably okay yeah I'm sorry so why waste the time what do you mean dealing
02:11:19Brian Atlaswith the version I date women who are not virgins it's like it's interesting though like would I date a virgin yes but i' also I also
02:11:28Brian Atlasdate women who are not virgins most of the women I've dated and date you know in terms of my dating experience not virgins have I dated virgins
02:11:42Londonyes I mean every come on now you were young once of course you dated virgins no I've dated even when I was in my late 20s early 30s late 20s is not that bad to be a
02:11:55Andrew Wilsonversion have you looked at the statistics in modernity sense like I said it's the people y'all know you know what's funny no no no no no hang on hang on I'm going to I'm going to give you the reputation here do you want me to
02:12:06Andrew Wilsontell you what your chances are of being a woman who's a virgin in your late 20s in the year 2024 it's not that many I don't even want to go down that route with you I agree they're mostly what do you think what do you think the
02:12:18Londonpercentage is probably only 10% but it's some out there and I've met him who's been like [ __ ] I'm 30 and I don't you know do anything and that's yeah I agree that there's virgins who exist in
02:12:30Londontheir 30s and that they're rare right but what do you think that what did you say you thought the percentage was probably 10% but how would y'all know about the
02:12:40Andrew Wilsonver about him how would you know so um just so you know I just want to I just want to let you know uh By the
02:12:48Londontime they're in their uh late 20s right 94% have loss of virginity okay so 6% mhm yeah but they
02:13:00Brian Atlasdon't know this whole world so I'm going still go with my answer 10% yeah I mean yeah you might as well double down on it here I need to read a chat holy botched surgery says the 37-year-old in
02:13:12Brian Atlasthe pink shirt when did you transition to female do you want to answer that I think they're just mad at anybody who speak I don't care it's going through the air in between my ears
02:13:23Brian Atlasokay I just think they're all upset and then I do want to CU your mic was muted while we were doing this um you are I don't know if I wait 27 yes will you be
02:13:34Brian Atlasbetter wait did I ask you did you did and I said yes no but we got cut off I think okay so or wait we did the whole table we did we did the No No but we went into it for like 30 minutes you and Andrew had it back and forth then I did
02:13:46Brian Atlasthe whole table so let me just get a definitive here uh better looking in 10 years time at 37 yes 20 years time at 47 no well I don't know honestly I have
02:13:57Londonone of those youthful looks like if we if we went around like just give me a yes or no maybe maybe for real cuz I don't know I'm that's 20 and a half that's more years yeah 30 years
02:14:10Londontime at 57 versus now because I could cut my hair do this whole look like you don't know answer just answer the question then yes cuz I don't see myself letting myself go and I think that I'll
02:14:22Londonjust spice it up and give different looks and it's 40 it's 30 year olds Grandma you be like look better than 20y olds all the time so I don't see why me yes people can still be attractive when
02:14:33Brian Atlasthey're older but the question is not will you still be attractive are they attractive 30 40 50 60 will I look better no will you look better no but 30s maybe all right and you're 27 were
02:14:45Brian Atlasyou better looking at 18 no than you are now at 27 no okay all right so I want to try to actually have the back and forth before
02:14:55Brian Atlasother people actually jump in on this so you again your uh disagreement or criticism is that I want to sleep with
02:15:05Brian Atlaswomen relatively quickly but I also want a woman with a low body count yeah okay um what's actually wrong with that or what what what's the issue I'm just
02:15:15Kayesaying that I think most women that have a low body count have a low body count a reason whether that be like religious or
02:15:23Andrew Wilsonlike what's a what's a low body count to you like 0 to 10 maybe five 0 to five to five I would consider oh I'm sorry you wanted to have the back I'm sorry no go
02:15:35Brian Atlasahead Andrew I was going to say I think that tends a high body count okay I do too I think one hand wait so it'd be unreasonable for me to let's say a woman has a body count of seven and she had
02:15:47Brian Atlaslike three hookups and like four relationships that would be unreasonable scenario for me to want to hook up within 3 days not in that scenario but like say she hasn't slept with anyone for like a year but she previously slept
02:15:58Brian Atlaswith like 10 people super quick let's go with five but she's been sell it for a year yeah yeah still still find it objectionable it would just be a mismatch look women you can it's free you're free to do whatever you want if
02:16:11Brian Atlasit's not going to be a question of pressure it would just be like oh we have a different timeline here in the same way like I'm sure most of you here well maybe some of you are okay with waiting till marriage there are women
02:16:23Brian Atlashere at the table who would not want to yourselves wait until marriage to have sex right okay that's fine in any case people are allowed to have
02:16:35Brian Atlaspreferences when it comes to this whether you're a man or a woman if you want to if your timeline mismatches what the other person's timeline is it's not a good match find somebody else I agree
02:16:46KayeI just feel like it's not common like as Andrew was saying that you'll not common not common if somebody hasn't slept with anyone in a long time or doesn't sleep around to sleep well these are two
02:16:57Brian Atlasdifferent categories so hasn't slept with somebody for a long time and has a low body count so a woman could have a 100 body count but could be celibate for
02:17:07Brian Atlasthe past year mhm I would think in that scenario it' be ridiculous if I come into her life that she would want I well I wouldn't want to date her because of her body count but I'd be like that's ridiculous this is not a good match find
02:17:21Londonsomebody else who's willing to wait so you're dating for the body count while she's just dating to find love and she's trying to change her life what I'm what is your actual argum if you don't get it don't question it
02:17:33Brian Atlasmove forward yeah I'm not obliged to date a woman because she's looking for love nobody has owed a relationship for the she's not owed a relationship that's
02:17:42Londonwhat it sounds like I'm sure if she stopped I'm sure if she stopped after 100 that she probably is looking for a real thing now and yeah good for her but
02:17:54Londonright so you're not so then why would y talk I don't owe a woman a relationship I don't think you owe her a relationship I just think you should tell her like hey I know you got 100 bodies that's why I'm here and maybe y'all would't have
02:18:07Londonissues after I wouldn't date a woman with a body count of so I even have the question about someone stopping for a year if you wouldn't give her example she would never be
02:18:18Brian Atlasexample you need to stop [ __ ] cutting in so I can have it back and forth with her going be stuck on this for too long go ahead I think you're in the middle of say something um no I kind of lost my
02:18:29Brian Atlastrain to PO yeah well I'm just again I'm still confused so she's got a body count of between five and 10 you think it's unreasonable for me to have a want to sleep with her within
02:18:41Kayethree days I guess the Crux of my criticism is like what are you like bringing to the table you know like so quickly into the date that she would be willing to sleep with you if she hasn't
02:18:52Brian Atlasin a long time or has a low body count that's what I'm trying to well I don't think that's your point because I mean in your show notes Here well I mean I suppose it it does have to do yeah cuz I kind of said it was like yeah you're a
02:19:04Kayelittle sassy with it it seems like your dates your first date would be more like an interview rather than like a connection being there and so I just tell me tell me how you came to that conclusion well cuz you'll ask the questions like you know how how many
02:19:16Brian Atlaspeople have you slept with are you willing to fold my laundry are you willing to stir my noodles like right you said so in your notes you said like bro why would anyone want to sleep with
02:19:27Brian AtlasBrian right away when his first dates like in the interview probably hey I'm Brian are you okay with the fact that we won't get married how do you feel about stirring my noodles and folding my laundry what's your body count are you willing to Bow if I was a chased woman
02:19:39Brian Atlason a date with Brian I wouldn't think whoa this dude who just interviewed me is so great now I'm going to immediately give up my chastity um yeah so I mean that's what you said yeah um
02:19:52Brian Atlasso I mean there's a couple things here so I would say that the way I'm conducting myself in the midst of an adversarial podcast is going to be very different than how I'm conducting myself
02:20:03Brian Atlasoneon-one yeah in a romantic intimate setting uh so you know for example like you might I mean the way somebody might conduct
02:20:15Brian Atlasthemselves where there's an expectation that you're having adversarial conversations is not how going to be conducting themselves when they're dating somebody we could do a
02:20:26Londonmock date if you want you're in a relationship why would you say that for podcast for views uh a mock date y let y
02:20:36Londonfans come on the podcast and now you upset this is what you get I'm you let your fans come on the I'm the only one not a fan for real I don't even know what the [ __ ] going up I'm going to
02:20:46Brian Atlasleave in a little too I'm not I'm not upset we're just having the he said why would you say that it's just peculiar given that you're in a relationship but um I think you would think it's funny
02:20:58Brian Atlasthe mock date yeah uh like if like not not actually like I mean like right here like role play I this is not like really a scenario in which would be organic or
02:21:10Brian Atlasconducive to like you heard what she said for you got to stop [ __ ] interrupting kindly stop [ __ ] interrupting please and thank you so look this sort of environment would not be particularly conducive or
02:21:22Brian Atlasrepresentative of how a conversation might uh play out in a more uh typical setting when it comes to a first date but I actually even like even if I grant
02:21:32Brian Atlasto you that I do take on a bit of a interviewing capacity with uh you know I know she's laughing over here by the way I saw this chick's [ __ ] Instagram stories absolute like 37-year-old still
02:21:45Brian Atlasgoing to [ __ ] Mansion parties dressed like a [ __ ] strumpet so I mean you're one to talk over here so okay sounds yeah you've been [ __ ] chuckling out of your mouth the entire [ __ ] night
02:21:56Vanessaof me so thanks for stalking me how is it before the podcast so that must have just happened yeah I was reposting people's stories lady
02:22:05Brian Atlasokay so um what would actually be wrong if I were to ask women questions before agreeing to meet with them I think that's fine but it kind of seems like maybe those questions wouldn't be super
02:22:17Kayeorganic like on the first to third date I would assume you'd ask that later on yeah like how do you put it into conversation is this a rage rage quit Rage Quit over here I'm not angry I'm
02:22:29Londonjust embarrassed are are you quitting it's a quit I think it's cuz we didn't know when we got invited that it would be like mean mean people coming r i I personally don't Careo I love that This
02:22:41Brian AtlasWoman's quitting when she's been mocking and laughing at me the entire [ __ ] show how I want to leave she you're bored because you've got [ __ ] Tik Tok brain because you're oh my God bro you
02:22:53Brian Atlasthere's too much [ __ ] Botox in your face bro your lips look like [ __ ] clown clown [ __ ] lips to you bro you've been talking [ __ ] all night the one thing I said to you was giving you
02:23:04Brian Atlasthe slightest milk toast push back to you wanting to date a millionaire that's the extent of the push back I gave if you have a gripe with Andrew that's fine
02:23:14LondonI wasn't really even that rude to you but you've been at me all night I'm I mean I personally from the beginning y'all were laughing at he laughed at her
02:23:24Brian Atlason there for sure before she di bro if I said if I sat here and I was like I want a 19-year-old virgin Victoria Secret model y'all would [ __ ] clown me you know why [ __ ] clown me not cuz she's
02:23:36LondonVictoria Secret I would clown you cuz you said 19 and you old as [ __ ] that's weird that's why I would clown you not because of Victoria Secret because you could find that they're not some of them
02:23:46Brian Atlasa't all that good looking so you think it's delusional that I could get a woman of that caliber okay we think it's delusional that she's a 37-year-old
02:23:57Brian Atlaswoman who wants to date a millionaire but she already is dating them she said where's the ring as a woman just because guys are [ __ ] get interrupting as a
02:24:07Brian Atlaswoman a w is not [ __ ] multiple guys the W is getting the ring until you have the ring it doesn't mean [ __ ] that's so sad that people think that though it is because everyone don't deserve to be
02:24:19Brian Atlasmarried metric of success is not being able to [ __ ] a guy you get the W when you get commitment she's F dating three dudes she doesn't have the ring she doesn't have commment what if she got proposed
02:24:31Brian Atlasby one of them and she three dudes she doesn't have the commitment Point Blank period y'all women think the W is [ __ ] successful Rich dudes nah no I don't think that
02:24:43Londonthat's why I don't have countless meaningless sex I don't do stuff like that because I know it's it's not that that's not the way mic and stop moving it kindly that's not the way to do it but she never said she was dealing with
02:24:55Londonnumerous ones she said only one and that was her ex that was the rich one she said and she said all of them make more than a million when you said 500 so she
02:25:04Londondoesn't seem like she's lying she drives a mlar YouTube down please it is what it is that's cool all right I'm going to read a couple chats here hold
02:25:14TTS/Donationson Christ his Lord donated $200 Brian a true traditional woman woman strives to wait until marriage and you want a woman that doesn't wait you
02:25:25TTS/Donationshave a double standard against Traditional Values there's no way around this stuff Andrew agrees I'm but I'm not
02:25:33Brian Atlasa I'm not like a 100% a traditional man I'm I don't want to get married I don't want to get married so I
02:25:43Andrew Wilsondon't really see what the issue is um but I would like that chatter to respond to the paradox of I think I think that this position is
02:25:53Andrew Wilsonso I agree in the spirit of the idea that that the Chatters kind of right here but I do think that Brian's point with the Paradox is true which is that if you have a woman who has been
02:26:06Andrew Wilsonpromiscuous in the past and suddenly she's going to make you wait that seems [ __ ] up from the waiter's perspective right that seems like oh all these other men were good enough for you but not me
02:26:19Andrew Wilsonand I still have actually heard a good answer to that so uh maybe chatter maybe you can actually respond to that argument what was the answer you were looking
02:26:30Londonfor I wasn't looking for an answer you said I haven't heard a good answer from that yet chat argument good AR argument chatter I I want to just give my opinion too go ahead what was the answer you
02:26:43Andrew Wilsonwere looking for say that again I was looking for an argument for this so here's the Paradox uh if a woman has leftt with multiple men before you very quickly but she wants to make you wait
02:26:55Andrew Wilsonbecause she's turning over a new Leaf uh from the perspective of the man who she's turning the new Leaf over for it seems like basically she's saying you're not good enough and these other men were no I don't think so even though I can't
02:27:07Londonrelate to her at all and what she's got going on that's not my life I'm just speaking first of all none of these are my life I'm just speaking on everyone topic cuz that's what we're here to I understand yeah but I think that I don't think that's it I think she probably
02:27:20Londonjust trying to change her life like he said he doesn't want someone who did all that didn't try to change her life so they're just not meant to be right away like he said I agree that just think should start either like if as soon as
02:27:33Londonshe says 100 bodies then you should say bye anything else expecting sex and something from her when she's saying she's changing you shouldn't be upset about because I just wouldn't date her
02:27:43Brian Atlasexactly yeah so then we're like what's more delusional her wanting a millionaire a l than 1% man or me
02:27:52Brian Atlaswanting to sleep with a woman with a sub1 body count in three dates or less what's more delusional why don't you answer the question I mean I guess the millionaire would be more delusional what do you
02:28:05Brian Atlasmean I don't think you gu okay it is MHM it is more delusional okay but so going back to your CR your further criticisms on this what would
02:28:16Brian Atlasactually be wrong with like asking someone questions when getting to meet them I mean it's fine if it's organic but what who cares if it's organic or not it's just I feel like if
02:28:28Kayeyou're on a date and you're trying to build chemistry and like a connection then the the questions like that kind of come off more like interview and like business like a transaction rather than
02:28:40Brian Atlaslike a chemistry thing it's all right man we got to be careful here um okay so whose job is it on a date to
02:28:50Brian Atlasuh bring the vibe I think both really yeah of course okay go ahead let's do the let's do the role play go ahead all right hi Brian
02:29:03Kaye[Music] um good job well well done okay hey how how was your D um it was pretty good um I went surfing today
02:29:15Brian Atlascaught a big wave how about you oh yeah where did you surf I surfed in San Diego go so drove drove here nice nice I just did some work today you know took it easy now I'm here with you well I think
02:29:28Kayewe're having a good time what's your body count all right BR all right damn I want to know sorry I want to know kind of
02:29:38Kayefroze it is awward on it is Awkward on on the podcast I will say look why you get uncomfortable when she asked that you just can you just straighten the mic why did you get uncomfortable when she
02:29:48Brian Atlasasked about your body count you you ask about women's life in general all day I wasn't uncomfortable okay so how what's the number so that she was I was like prepared to engage with her in good faith she went straight to that she just
02:30:00Naomi RyderI don't know kind of nerve-wracking she just Tred no cuz it's like she was trying to make a point like if you're on a date how do you interject that into the conversation without it being weird
02:30:11Brian Atlasyeah bro okay well first off I it's hard for me to give prescriptive advice to most men because I'm in the sort of interesting scenario where in terms of
02:30:21Brian Atlasthe women I've started to date they're reaching out to me so I it's difficult to give them good prescriptive advice because most men are not in that
02:30:30Brian Atlasposition so with me yeah I'm [ __ ] screening these chicks hardcore cuz they want your views and not you you're an oh my God first off not an idiot I'm saying
02:30:43Brian Atlasthink look at her flirting with you with her boyfriend because you have views my point that doesn't your point at all I'm got to go too it was fun so hold on let me respond to you so here's the funny
02:30:55Londonthing about that you don't have to go hold on listen I know I'm the party I'll come back with my Pro and no makeup on for you guys later and my Victoria Secret outfit for y later another day but I got to go right now I'll respond
02:31:08Brian Atlasto you I came with her and she and you ruined it she didn't like she she's leaving my stuff's in her car tell her to come back she's up she's coming back just tell her to [ __ ] go tell tell
02:31:17Brian Atlasher if she comes back I'll give her a a fresh $2 bill a [ __ ] uh what what what are the Rice Krispy treat applesauce and you know how much a $2 bill is worth now I have one in my phone
02:31:30Brian Atlaswhat I was going to say so wait wait hold on let me answer your thing really quick and then we can have a discussion over your your lady friend who just dipped so okay if a girl if she's trying to like clout Farm me or whatever which
02:31:42Brian Atlasis not something I've actually ever encountered it's a terrible idea because any girl I date is never getting even an
02:31:50Brian AtlasA A shrivel a crumb of any public try and that's when you got to realize I keep my stop you got to stop [ __ ]
02:32:00Brian Atlasinterrupting I keep my relationships very private my family very private my friendships very private if I'm dating a girl I could be dating her for 2 years
02:32:11Brian Atlasnobody [ __ ] knows I'm not telling anybody about it okay so if she's trying to date me to get some sort of benefits for clout one you're not going to get it
02:32:22Brian Atlastwo I'm just not public like that with my relationships I don't do what these other influencers do where they [ __ ] are in relationships publicly okay it's private and I don't date Instagram
02:32:32Londonchicks I don't date social media girls I don't date content creators okay or money they might use you for it don't have I don't even know if you have money I just know you got a podcast I am broke
02:32:44Londonyou're I am broke I don't think you're broke starving col but you might be you know regular compared compared to her wanting a millionaire and the only way that she going come back is if you bring her a millionaire so figure it out I got
02:32:56TTS/Donationswe got millionaires in the chat okay any millionaires many many there we got some millionaires in the chat can y'all please send my my friend Somey fact we have the Burger King in chat yikes shave
02:33:08TTS/Donationsyour baby hair donated $200 red is goldfish tier content let's involve everyone else panel what is the biggest red flag job for men and why
02:33:20TTS/DonationsBrian and Andrew same question for women but why is it sales Red Flag job okay
02:33:28Londonwell look look your friend left tell her to come back it's all good uh I don't think she back we just met y'all so when
02:33:39Londonhe get he heated when you just met him and then you leave yeah but like what did she do to contribute to that um the you got to understand all these people speaking to like unless we were getting
02:33:51Londonpaid off of every comment she's not going to want hear like the comments that people are making me I don't care cuz I'm me like I whatever people say it don't matter I'm going leave out here
02:34:02Londonstill being me I start my own channel y' actually just gave me a good idea thank you add my new broadcast hey shout out
02:34:10LondonLondon 2 _ R follow me S me buddy I don't do only fans
02:34:21LondonAmerican Idol where you're like I'm going to be a singer I'll teach you I'm going to be a singer I'll show you Simon is that is that basically what you're doing yeah yeah you know what I did do that and he's in on the like little game
02:34:33Londonand he was like Boo Co you suck it didn't hurt my feelings as a kid it really did wait you you went on you went on
02:34:42LondonAmerican Idol no I was just playing I was just playing the game at home on my week oh the Wii back in the day wait what what part of LA and he got boed off
02:34:52Andrew Wilsonon the game yeah he [ __ ] it up in the game I know I know it's crazy you're taking you're taking some L's tonight you're taking
02:35:04Londonsome L's that I it's okay I mean I don't think so cuz I'm still beautiful still going to leave out here and you know it was fun yeah so what part of La do you live in Studio City Studio City who
02:35:16Naomi Ryderlives in who came from La me who left what part of the valet are you in the valley oh the studio city is before Val is the valley I I just don't want to get
02:35:28Londonlike too into it well we don't need to look it uh are you down to be her ride damn just inv volunteer no it's okay I'mma go with I'mma go with her my stuff's already in her car and I feel
02:35:40Londonbad I every everybody don't want to go through what happened here tonight before you leave what's your body count yeah yeah one hand and not the whole hand and that's why I act how I
02:35:53Londonact so you know you guys have a good night oh and I'm natural no no nothing like this is me natural have a good have a good night thank you if you guys want
02:36:05Londonme again actually don't mind it was funny and interesting like I don't I don't care about negative people I know it's a 8 billion you either got to get your friend to come back or you just got
02:36:16Brian Atlasto leave we can't keep having the convo I know that's I go talk to her go talk to her see if she wants to come back otherwise you just got to get out of here oh my goodness okay always get out
02:36:28Background Voiceof here when you ask to leave first but it's fine bye guys she's not coming back peace out peace out you too homie
02:36:38Brian Atlasa good talk good talk good times all right that was a double I guess a double rage quit if we maybe we can get the can we do we get them lei
02:36:51TTS/Donationsfor the hatrick put it in oh my word this is one of lebowski's flest performance thank you thank
02:37:00Brian Atlasyou all right out you go out you go out you go a little less conversation a little
02:37:09Brian Atlasmore action please thank you Elvis good musician oh my goodness all right guys well uh we have uh Morgan
02:37:20Brian Atlasjoining us we have uh Ana joining us they're now part of the panel um your thoughts Andrew I I'm I'm just breathing a
02:37:32Brian Atlascollective side of relief on behalf of the entire panel now maybe we can get to the show yeah I know it's we can actually get through some of the notes here um yeah
02:37:44Brian Atlasthe chick with a star on her head right we got to start with a chick with a star on her head we have to start there it's a pimple patch I'll get yeah I'll get through the notes pimple patch they're really trendy for your
02:37:56Brian Atlasyoung people really yes yep oh uh okay so K let me get into your notes you're 18 you're in an age Gap relationship oh 19 that was from previously you're in an
02:38:08Background Voiceage Gap relationship yes and he's how old 29 about to be 30 um not about to be how did you guys meet oh my God
02:38:17Background Voiceick ah yeah yes yeah I can't believe it oh I'm sorry go ahead [ __ ] what was your question um how
02:38:27Brian Atlasyou guys met uh we met online dating app mhm which one Tinder okay was it a uh hookup initially no no okay is this wait hold on that's not your first
02:38:41Brian Atlasrelationship because you said your were longest relationship was 3 years right this has been going on six months so you've been six months in an age Gap relationship um I want to open that up to the panel really quick uh do you guys
02:38:52Brian Atlashave any objections to age Gap relationships no I feel like 20 years could be a lot 20
02:39:02Brian Atlasyears I would say it depends like as long as nobody's taking advantage of anybody okay all right and
02:39:11Brian Atlasuh you your ex for the three-year one you said he was uh addicted to Corn mhm right which is why we broke up yeah you dat for a little over three years throughout High School you hooked up
02:39:23Kaynwith wait hooked up with a boy best friend what do you mean there um well just you know on the show for like you know history and everything um that's
02:39:35Kaynjust my history is the threeyear relationship which I left and then um between that you hooked up with one of
02:39:42Brian Atlasyour male friends MH and then now I'm in my relationship got it okay you said you're very traditional in your relationship very but that's what you
02:39:55Brian Atlaswrote in your I'm pretty traditional just with like my beliefs in how I grew up and everything okay you said you were raised Catholic and you still identify but definitely don't follow it
02:40:06Kaynstrictly [ __ ] modern feminism those are all separate thoughts yeah so let's start okay you're raised Catholic are you still Catholic um I
02:40:15Kaynwouldn't say so but um I still still have like some of my views from there I don't practice um but I did go to Catholic School my whole life so I do
02:40:27Brian Atlashave a lot of background one sec guys H okay never mind um okay you're
02:40:38Kaynuh you identify but don't you don't follow it strictly what does that mean so I just don't practice like um I haven't really gone to church or
02:40:46Kaynanything but um obviously like it's what I believe in you know what I mean okay I mean can you elaborate a little bit or yeah I mean I just believe
02:41:00Kaynin Catholic beliefs I just don't practice them that's it so do you believe in God yeah I believe in God I believe in like the Trinity um so you know about it but you don't follow it no
02:41:12KaynI believe in it I just don't practice you know like I don't go to church or anything like that which obviously well wouldn't the belief in it require
02:41:22Kaynfollowing it um well yeah that's the ideal but it's just not like at the point of life where I'm at right now just like my own like struggles and just
02:41:33Kaynlike identity and everything but I still heavily like believe in my faith and everything wouldn't it help you through
02:41:41Kaynthe struggles um yeah i' say so it's just like my personal struggles that are keeping me away from practicing well that that's my point
02:41:52Kaynwouldn't it help you through the process of course yeah there wasn't shade by the way yeah of course I know I know like how people like feel with like like people believing and like not practicing you
02:42:06Andrew Wilsonknow especially if you have the ability to um it's just like you say that Catholicism is getting in the way of your journey what would you mean journey in
02:42:15Kaynwhat you know your journey in life um I think that's a big thing like Catholicism like
02:42:23Kayndefinitely like holds back like a lot of the things that I want to do and so what you think well just things in life you know like having sex with men of course
02:42:36Allisonyeah like premarital sex you would say like doesn't allow you to have your version of fun right um that's what that's what I if yeah just the way I live my life mhm okay so so uh I just I
02:42:50Andrew Wilsonjust want to be clear uh you went to Catholic School your whole life right M do you know can you tell me what is the one unforgivable
02:42:59Andrew Wilsonsin um denying God no blasphemy against the Holy Spirit that's the one so what that means is that you know that Jesus Christ is
02:43:11Andrew Wilsondivine and you know that the faith is true and you reject it on purpose that would be blasphemy against the Holy Spirit the one unforgivable sin
02:43:21Andrew Wilsonwouldn't blasphemy be mockery of God that is mockery well imagine knowing that Christ is is uh God knowing that uh that Christianity is true and you turn
02:43:34Andrew Wilsonaway from it anyway I just think that's a struggle that humans go through though I mean it's not a struggle that humans go through when they know a thing is true and then reject it anyway that's the opposite of The Human Condition usually
02:43:48Andrew WilsonThe Human Condition is when they know something is true they accept that truth but when somebody says I accept that this is true but reject it anyway for my own personal desires that's the uh the
02:44:00Andrew Wilsonopposite generally of what we consider to be moral right can we pull up the definition of blasphemy can you speak a little louder can we pull up the definition of blasphemy yeah you can pull up the definition of blasphemy but
02:44:11Andrew Wilsonblasphemy against the Holy Spirit itself is its own particular type of blasphemy it's the knowledge that the thing is true rejecting it anyway rejecting the Divinity
02:44:25Andrew Wilsonanyway that's what it actually is I'm just pointing the only reason I'm pointing this out is because um out of
02:44:36Andrew Wilsonall of the sins which are which are comported to be heinous that one in particular is the very worst at least how it's described by the Catholics so I guess you know it's true you know the Divinity is real
02:44:49Andrew Wilsonyou accept that it's real you accept it's true and then you turn away from it anyway so you're saying it's a form of blasphemy cuz I I guess I would say blasphemy is more like open mockery like how people I can only allow one more
02:45:02Andrew Wilsoncomment on this and I yeah okay so just real quick what could be more mockery than yes Jesus I know you're Divine but reject you anyway so I can have sex with a guy how could you even can I I I would
02:45:15Andrew Wilsonlike you to actually just think for a second and tell me anything that could be more Blasphemous or more mockery based than that anything I guess it to me it just sounds more like rejecting
02:45:27Andrew WilsonGod because everyone has the choice to accept or reject God but I don't I would say I would disagree that falls under blasphemy no no no a rejection of God is
02:45:39Andrew Wilsonis I don't believe I don't believe is different than I do believe and then in spite of the belief I'm going to do the thing anyway you're saying they they
02:45:50Brian Atlasclaim I'm very sorry have to move on I'm very sorry got to move it on um let's see here I need to get into the notes Here why don't we go back to Kaylee here you said you're not a huge labia
02:46:01KayeEnthusiast that's true are you bisexual or no you just disagree yeah I disagree with it with the lebia not necessarily
02:46:09Kayethat having big lebia is bad it's just kind of weird what's how much you like lebia like you have an Instagram dedicated to it BLM yeah big labia
02:46:20Brian Atlasmatter yeah what what would actually be weird with um so a male finding the genitalia of a female that's weird I didn't know it was weird for men to be
02:46:30Naomi Ryderattracted to vagina Excuse Me Maybe I'm too straight for you I apologize which what um sorry go ahead
02:46:41Naomi Ryderwhat um what part of it the manora or the Majora Ian part both are cool I guess I guess they both can be big so big manora is fine is what you're saying
02:46:52Naomi Ryderand this the lips it does it not matter that's the ma both is good okay I don't know I was just asking okay I'm like cuz I've never seen the the page that she's talking about also
02:47:05Kayeyou did say you would bow to me so go ahead I did go ahead when we were on our lock date let's see let's see the bow she has I can show you what my
02:47:14Kayeboyfriend and I do CU she bows to me too so that's pathetic but we penguin B like because of the whatever podcast no actually we were at the Monterey Bay
02:47:25KayeAquarium and they were demonstrating how penguins bowed to each other and we thought it was hilarious and then it kind of was funny that you guys also
02:47:32Brian Atlasbrought it up on um in any case I uh I rebuke you for your anti-ig laia matter rhetoric disgusting uh you also said there's some views you disagree with I
02:47:45Brian Atlasthink we kind of got into those um I don't know was there anything else um I brought up the uh women's right to vote why don't we save that we're going to save that one for a little later though really we're going to say okay
02:47:58Brian Atlasall right but I want to get into that one don't let me forget uh we will get into it uh but okay let's and you have to remind us before the show we'll do uh
02:48:08Brian Atlasthat's a debate you'll have with Andrew uh let's see here going to uh Megan you're a full-time yapper you've AB absolutely failed to