She Tried To MURDER Tinder Date?! E-GIRLS! SUPER Feminist Returns?! NALA SAVED?! | Dating Talk #144

Date: 2024-03-18

Duration: 6h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

JJulie (DT171)>

KKylie (DT144)>

LLydia (DT144)>

MMatthew (DT145)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Lydia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Julie(guest)

SPEAKER_04Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kylie(guest)

SPEAKER_07Matthew Gallagher(guest)

SPEAKER_09JoJo(guest)

SPEAKER_10Nala(guest)

SPEAKER_12Malia(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian introduces returning guests JoJo, Julie, Malia, Matthew and new guests Nala, Kylie, Madison, and Lydia. Notable: Nala and Kylie arrived late. Lydia is engaged; Julie is in a new LDR since last appearance.

“"without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves"”

ControversyNala (SPEAKER_10) discloses she stabbed a Tinder date twice in the neck in Las Vegas (2021) while off her bipolar/schizophrenia medication. Was in delusional state; told police it was revenge for Soleimani (later disavowed). Spent 6 weeks in jail; pled to 2 counts false imprisonment; serving probation. Brian argues a man in same position would have faced much longer sentence. Nala argues women's prison statistics show they have it harder (disputed).

“"I ended up um harm him and stop him twice in the neck during sex"”

Key MomentBrian argues female privilege in sentencing: Nala got probation for stabbing; a California woman who stabbed her boyfriend 108 times got probation. Brian states a man in the same situation would face significant prison time. Nala challenges this, citing mental health and criminal history context.

“"if we put a man in that woman's position... there would be significantly long prison sentences"”

Key MomentJoJo (returning guest, prior "super feminist" episode) maintains women can be primary victims of war by redefining "victim" as those who suffer most vs those who die most. Brian shows D-Day Into the Jaws of Death photograph. Matthew explains that death is the worst victimhood; widow suffers but soldier is primary victim. JoJo ultimately concedes men are primary casualties but maintains women suffer as victims too.

“"women I'll still stand by you are not saying that I'm still standing by it"”

Key MomentSelf-ratings round. Matthew asks panel to rate themselves on looks 1-10. Matthew self-rates 7 (currently); potential 8 if in peak shape. Brian: 5 currently; potential 7-7.5. Lydia refuses objective rating ("everyone's a 10 in God's eyes"). Extended debate follows on whether all sinners are equally evil — specifically whether Madison Vu is as evil as Hitler in God's eyes. Lydia: yes (all equally deserving of eternal death).

“"what does everyone rate themselves on a scale of 1 to 10"”

ControversyLydia (SPEAKER_02) maintains Hitler and Madison are equally evil in God's eyes (all sinners equally deserving of eternal death). Brian repeatedly presses her to say Hitler is more evil. She concedes Hitler's actions are worse but holds the theological position on equal sinfulness. Matthew (SPEAKER_07) asks if Hitler could go to heaven if he accepted Christ before death. Lydia: yes. Matthew: that doesn't seem right. Eventually someone in the room flatulates, diffusing the tension.

“"who is more evil Madison or Hitler... I think that is that the word you used... equally evil"”

Key MomentBody count round prompted by TTS donation from "Stiffler." JoJo: 8, Julie: 7, Malia: 6, Kylie: 7 (admitted range 10-20 when pressed), Nala: same as prior appearance (8, celibate since incident). Discussion of whether women underreport by factor of 3.

“"we're going to have Madison start on this stiffmeister ask the ladies their body count"”

Key MomentMatthew (SPEAKER_07) discloses divorce details: married 8 years, ex-wife was a hair stylist who moved to LA; got pregnant 2 months after meeting. Paid 4 years of alimony; ex-wife became a millionaire from settlement. Community property law: she got half of gifts he bought himself. If they had been married 10 years, alimony would have been indefinite. Made his last alimony payment this month.

“"I mean she became a millionaire from our divorce"”

Key MomentBrian probes Kylie on her 15-year chaotic relationship (ages 20-32). Partner was bipolar, manic, drug addict, physically violent once, involved in criminality. Got shot in college during police raid over a weed plant. Passed away from overdose ~1 year prior. Kylie had only one other relationship in that period (3 years; rebound; ended mutually). Brian summarizes: she gave her best years (20-34) to a bipolar drug addict.

“"you gave arguably your best years from 20 to 34 to a bipolar chaotic drug addict"”

QuoteBrian states his marriage position as a businessman: "we're businessmen... as a businessman we don't sign contracts that don't benefit us therefore no marriage for the boys."

“"as a businessman we don't sign contracts that don't benefit us therefore no marriage for the boys"”

QuoteBrian plays clip of Nala Ray apparently quitting OnlyFans and takes full credit: "we did it boys we did it we saved one only fans girl one porn star... totally because of the whatever podcast father I'm taking full credit."

“"we saved we saved one only fans girl one porn star it was because obviously totally because of the whatever podcast"”

OtherEnd of show. Brian does outro; plans raid on Eson on Twitch (Grand Theft Auto 5). Matthew plugs watchgang.com; announces special giveaway for viewers on Tuesday episode. 07s in the chat. Show ends ~6:37.

“"07s in the chat good night guys"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Eight guests introduce themselves: JoJo (returning; masters student, international affairs; single 2+ yrs; celibate ~2 yrs), Julie (returning; 25, BC Canada, student + OnlyFans; now in LDR 7 months), Malia (returning; 27, OnlyFans mgmt; single 2.5 yrs), Nala (23, Dallas, business student; mental health advocate; bipolar/schizophrenia; on probation), Kylie (34, FL; bartender/yoga teacher; 1.5 hrs late), Madison (19, SD/SB, Whatever staff + SBCC student), Lydia (21, NC, Students for Life spokesperson; engaged), Matthew (38, LA, CEO watchgang.com; returning; divorced).

Kylie lateness debate

Kylie (SPEAKER_05) arrives 1 hour 30 minutes late. Brian debates accountability, punctuality, and whether women have inherent leeway to be late. Kylie argues men need more patience; Brian disputes this as removing female agency. Nala (SPEAKER_10) also arrived ~1 hour late. TTS donations mock the lateness repeatedly. Discussion pivots to general dating context: is being late on a first date forgivable; how long would you wait at a restaurant. Brian references cell phones enabling flakiness. Kylie eventually goes to the bathroom mid-discussion; conversation continues.

Nala's Las Vegas stabbing incident

Nala (SPEAKER_10) describes stabbing a Tinder date twice in the neck in Las Vegas (2021). Was off bipolar/schizophrenia medication; also under drugs/alcohol. In a delusional/hallucinatory state; told police she did it in revenge for Soleimani (disavowed). Victim survived; wounds were minor; did not go to hospital. Nala spent 6 weeks in jail pending competency hearing. Pled to 2 counts of false imprisonment; 3-5 year probation (no prison time). Brian argues a man in the same situation would have faced much harsher sentencing (female privilege). Nala argues the justice system is context-dependent; cites mental health factors. Debate about women's prisons vs men's prisons: Nala claims women die at higher rates in jail; Brian strongly disputes this; TTS donation later cites PBS study (7% higher mortality rate due to illness/suicide/overdose — not violence).

Women as primary victims of war (JoJo returns)

JoJo (SPEAKER_09) maintains women can be primary victims of war. She redefines "victim" as those who suffer most, not those who die most. Matthew (SPEAKER_07) and Brian (SPEAKER_01) argue men are clearly the primary casualties. Brian shows D-Day photograph (Into the Jaws of Death) — no women in the image. JoJo acknowledges men are the primary casualties but maintains that widows and invaded populations suffer as victims. Matthew: death is the worst victimhood; the widow is a victim but the dead soldier is the primary victim. Debate reaches qualified agreement.

Pro-life vs pro-choice debate

Lydia (SPEAKER_02) presents pro-life position as spokesperson for Students for Life of America. Brings model fetal development props; throws one toward Brian at end. Brian and Matthew take more neutral/devil's advocate positions. Julie (SPEAKER_03) raises abortion pills and women knowing what they are doing. Lydia: women who knowingly abort should be held accountable. Brian proposes artificial wombs as compromise; panel mixed. Catholic TTS donation chimes in with faith-based argument. Brian identifies as Catholic and does not believe in reincarnation.

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Matthew (SPEAKER_07) asks panel to rate themselves on looks 1-10. Matthew: 7 (currently); potential 8 if in peak shape/ripped. Brian: 5 (currently; potential 7-7.5 in prime shape). Lydia (SPEAKER_02): "everybody's a 10 in God's eyes" — refuses objective rating. Discussion of what "objective" vs "subjective" attractiveness means. Brian presses with Hitler vs Madison Vu: are they equally evil in God's eyes? Lydia maintains all sinners are equally deserving of Eternal death. Extended theological debate about sin, evil, and whether Hitler could go to heaven if he accepted Christ before death.

Body count round

Brian asks panel for body counts (prompted by Stiffler TTS donation). Results: JoJo (SPEAKER_09): 8 (same as prior appearance). Julie (SPEAKER_03): 7. Malia (SPEAKER_12): 6. Kylie (SPEAKER_05): 7 (stated first); range confirmed 10-20 when pressed. Nala (SPEAKER_10): same as prior appearance (8, celibate since incident). Lydia (SPEAKER_02): not stated (engaged Christian; body count discussion deflected to faith). Matthew: declined (not required for males on this question). Discussion follows on whether women lie about body count; whether men care about body count is insecure or a valid preference.

Marriage, alimony, and divorce laws

Matthew (SPEAKER_07) shares his divorce experience: married 8 years, 2 kids, paid 4 years of alimony, ex-wife (former hair stylist) became a millionaire. Community property law: she got half of gifts he bought himself. Brian: California divorce laws disincentivize men from marrying; 80% of divorces initiated by women. Lydia (SPEAKER_02) argues marriage provides stability and security for women; security for men too. Brian: marriage gives women financial incentive to leave; no equivalent incentive to stay. Matthew: would not get married again; dates for connection without needing marriage. JoJo (SPEAKER_09): would not change her last name; does not care about marriage either way. Discussion of prenups; attorney financial incentives; community property quirks.

Kylie's 15-year relationship and chaotic ex

Brian probes Kylie (SPEAKER_05) on her 15-year on/off relationship with a bipolar man. They met at 14 (friends in high school), dated from college (age 20) to 32. Three breakups; she initiated last two, he initiated the middle one. He was bipolar (undiagnosed), manic, made bad decisions: got shot in college during police raid over a weed plant; physical violence with Kylie once; involved in criminality; drug addiction. Passed away from overdose ~1 year before this taping. Kylie had one other relationship (3 years; rebound from high school friend; ended due to stagnation and dead bedroom). Brian: she gave her best years (20-34) to a chaotic drug addict. Now in a 10-month talking stage with a man who returned from oil rig work in Texas.

Does men disliking challenges in dating make them beta?

Twitter post debated: "men don't want soft feminine women — they want bold dominant women who are submissive for them." Brian disagrees: he does not want a woman who plays hard to get or is a challenge. Nala (SPEAKER_10) argues that playing hard to get creates more excitement (hunter-gatherer). Brian: Proverbs 21:19 ("better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome wife"). Matthew (SPEAKER_07): men like conquest; the challenge aspect makes some sense. Lydia (SPEAKER_02): going to take her husband's last name; finds independence compatible with femininity. Brian: the most alpha men have women throwing themselves at them; the chase is a waste of time. "Play hard to get, quickly become hard to want."

Nala Ray "SAVED" — OnlyFans quit announcement

Brian plays a clip of prior Whatever guest Nala Ray (not present in studio) apparently quitting OnlyFans. Brian takes full credit for this decision on behalf of the Whatever Podcast. Panel reacts. Brian then discusses OnlyFans with Julie (SPEAKER_03): what it would take for Julie to quit. Julie: equivalent-paying legitimate job. Works enough hours to pay rent and fund school. Does not do custom/DM content; just posts. Boyfriend does not subscribe; she has not asked him. Does not want to do OnlyFans forever; plans to use degree after graduation.

Transcript

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Kyliego ex-boy you said you had an ex-boyfriend high school sweetheart who got uh raided what's the story there oh so uh we were friends in high school and

Kyliethen we went to college together and he ended up getting like robbed in our neighborhood by some kids and

Kyliethen don't the kids ended up shooting him with a gun and he got shot and the police came back to his house

Kylieand they I guess they SM a weed plant cuz he was taking care of a weed plant for his friend right we're in college we're doing stupid things and so the US Marshals came and

Kylieraided the house and it was probably one of the most terrifying experiences of my life and we were all we all went out the night before so it was like me and a bunch of my girlfriends all hung over in the morning sleeping on a floor when did

Brian Atlasyou meet him how old were you when you met this guy I was 14 how old same age yeah two years older than me okay you said that you

Kyliedated him on again off again for 15 years is that correct yeah so we dated like consistently for about 5 six years

Kylieand then we went our separate ways he actually got engaged and had a child and I got into another uh relationship um and then he things didn't work out with the

Kyliemother of his child and things didn't work out after Co with my relationship so we decided to try it one more time since we were both at such different places in our lives and it didn't work

TTS Donation Readerum we did remain friends um we would get lunch he would come to my yoga classes I'm just what Doo donated

TTS Donation Reader$100 question for the girls is motherhood something you want as a part of your life who in your mind is a good example of the type of mother you want to be okay we'll we'll come back to your

Brian Atlasstory we'll go around really quick on this um we can only do one question for super uh wait so is motherhood something you want as part in your mind is example

JoJoof the type of mother okay just we can do both Well mine's pretty quick yeah yes and my own mother is not sure and no idea yes and my mom

Brian Atlasyes and my mom as M yes my mother and my grandmother put together I was going to say yes and my mom too what's that thing from Full Metal Alchemist where it

Brian Atlasbecomes like a a homunculus no no no it's it's the Chima is that the term Chimera so you want like a chimera between your mom the

Lydiabest qualities from each of them okay all right uh um sorry it was the question I don't even remember I think it's oh yeah I do want to yeah I do want to be a mom and my mom

Brian Atlasis also the person I would say okay uh so Kylie going back to your story you he was married and had a kid he was engaged and had a kid yes just one kid

Brian Atlasjust one kid now was there like was it a clean break and then you guys started dating or were you or was him or were both of you like still romance a clean Vault clear break they had been co-

Brian Atlasco-parenting for probably like five years okay and you so in it was over a period of 15 years though that you were dating this guy correct yes and so but you said it was on again off again I'm

Kyliepretty many times was it on and off so I'm pretty sure he was bipolar when things were good they were really good when things were bad they were really

Kyliebad he would uh he was very manic um and he also tended to make a lot of bad decisions for him yeah you said he

Brian Atlasduring college he was shot arrested tried to correct self- delete himself very you said it was a very chaotic relationship and then he sadly passed away uh last year of an OD yes okay um

Kyliebut so how many and you said he was bipolar right I I mean I don't know if he was diagnosed but he was very manic yeah okay some kind of so how many times was it on again off

Kylieagain so uh I mean we were on for pretty much the whole time like we would have fights you know and he would go off and do things and we you know

Kyliewouldn't talk for a little bit but like I was never not with him what was he um addicted to uh I mean he you said he passed away from an overdose throughout

Kyliethe course of your whole relationship was he using drugs he was yeah nothing like nothing in particular consistently just a lot of VAR whatever he whatever he could do to

Kyliebe with people and the center of attention and kind of like making moves with people and being the was he ever violent towards you

Brian Atlasum yeah he's he put his hands on me once okay once yeah okay uh was he involved with any uh like

Kyliecriminality anything like that you know I'm sure but I was purposefully kind of ignorant at the time okay you know but so you said for

Kylie15 years you were pretty much with him sort of or for for like six years five to six years we dated consistently from you said you started dating him at 14 to so 14 to 19 we just friends in high

Brian Atlasschool so we started dating when we went to college so okay you're just friends in high school to like 26 20 to 26 you're 34 now correct so you've been more or less on and off again dating

Kyliethis guy for from 20 to or maybe 19 to 34 20 to 34 okay uh and or 32 cuz I was

Brian Atlas32 the last time that we tried okay yeah so from how many times was it on again off again how probably three three times

Brian Atlastotal three times toal who would end it him or you

Kylieum I mean he would he would kind of like disappear like we would get in a fight and he would just like go off and then you know I would say this is toxic we need to end this and then we'd take like

Brian Atlasa break end it and who would reach back out to Who Would You Reach back out to him it depends I think it was about 50/50 well you said it was three times so

Kyliedisregard that I'm not reading it any the last time I broke I broke it off with him and then the time before that he broke it off with me and then

Brian Atlasthe time before that I broke it off with him time before so it was off and on me him me okay and you said it was about split

Kyliein terms of you going back to him like who some typically in these on again off again relationships somebody like reaches back out he would show up back into my life he would put himself he would come to the bar that I was working

Kylieat or the gym that I was teaching yoga or whatever the case may be in in the off periods would you date other men uh

Brian AtlasI had one other man that I dated was that the one during Co yes so from 20 to

Brian Atlas32 you only dated one other guy correct from 20 to 32 correct yes how long did that other relationship

Brian Atlaslast three and a half four years may I ask why was that relationship stable like was it a good healthy relationship

Kylieor also chaotic I think he was like a a rebound in a way I think he help helped

Kylieme like I think I he was a really good friend and was there as a comfort and friend is that how started you were

Brian Atlasfriends with this guy mhm and then okay so so it was a he he had a levelhead this other

Brian Atlasguy you dat sorry you dated him for how long this other guy two years three years three years yeah okay uh and did you end that or did he sorry if I

Brian Atlasalready asked that it was kind of mutual mut um we had gotten stagnant in the relationship what do you mean stagnant like dead bedroom you guys weren't having sex we weren't having sex we worked opposite schedules whose fault

Brian Atlaswas that the dead bedroom like would he initiate and you turn them down yeah yeah was there ever a dead

Brian Atlasbedroom with your chaotic no interesting how that works um okay you've painted a pretty good picture here uh

Brian Atlasso you gave arguably your best years from 20 to

Brian Atlas34 to a bipolar chaotic drug

Brian Atlasaddict uh who was physically violent with you who was involved in uh criminal

Brian Atlasactivity why do you list bipolar is like it's not about you relax no I'm just curious like I mean we can go there I know in your pre-show notes you seem Andrew Wilson had a point about how uh

Brian Atlasperhaps it's suboptimal to date somebody who's bipolar and I tend to agree with him it's I'm not trying to shame people who are bipolar but I mean I get it people preference people are allowed to

Nalapeople are all I'm saying you should have to but I'm just saying like you think it's wrong then's what's your contention here specific clip that I'm referring to is he mentioned that people who are um quote unquote crazy a bipolar

Nalaschizophrenic should not have the right to adopt oh well I can't so like Andrew's not here I can't I get it but like I was just like mentioning that and then also going back to the point that

Nalawe were talk y'all were talking about I think just mentioning bipolar as like one of the negative connotations along with drug dealer and all those other things think it could get you stabbed in the neck if you have proper medication

Matthew Gallagherand if you're under treat you don't I mean I'm not trying to like throw not everyone has Bullet at you but I'm just saying like it's what led to that right so you could understand why a person would be apprehensive about dating

Nalasomebody with it I'm not saying you have to like date a certain person but I'm just saying the list that you had was everything was negative if you replaced bipolar and had a racial like a specific race there it would make it very

Nalaoffensive people would get triggered but when you use Mental Health when you use and bipolar then it's like somehow okay well I so also do you think let let me let me engage like wheelchair like if

Nalayou add that to the list that would be very ableist you to say able what do you mean aess so would you consider it a posit no I'm saying if you the same list you had everything was negative and then if you were to replace the word bipolar

Brian Atlaswith like somebody who has a wheelchair I'm not saying that's what you said do you think being bipolar is the same as being black no I'm just but why would you you you mentioned specifically if I

Brian Atlasif I rep replaced bipolar with with uh black that would be racist I didn't said those exact words but I'm just saying ableism donated

Nala$100 yes crazy people should not be allowed to adopt holy phone I actually agree with that the the thing is let's just even ignore that like if you were to say somebody with a wheelchair drug dealer like blah blah blah blah blah

Nalathat would be very able as of can you not have a preference to not a wheelchair that's very drug dealer a mental illness I'm discriminatory against drug

Naladealers because you you were naming a specific list of like descri in her past previous partner and everything on there was let me ask you a question basically negative is being bipolar ever a

Nalapositive thing it could be a positive a lot of people have creative minds look at Selena Gomez she's absolutely amazing in music and she's an incredible woman do you think do you think her life is

Nalabetter or worse because she's bipolar if you have the proper management and uh treatment you can have same or even better life because it's going to make you it's going to make it harder for you

Brian Atlashold on let me just clar say one thing look people who have uh a mental illness or who are bipolar I absolutely have compassion for these people but in my view nobody's obliged to date you

Brian Atlasbecause you're bipolar and I look if I can speak frankly saying either but if I can speak frankly yes I think dating someone who has a mental illness is a suboptimal dating choice and I personally would not do it and I don't

Nalarecommend it to other men yeah it could be a dating preference that's totally fine but the list that you were saying you were basically Bally describing her previous partner everything on that list was a negative negatively Associated red

Brian AtlasFL thing and then you add compassion I have compassion for you don't have to date someone bipolar but you just I I have compassion for people who are bipolar and struggling with mental illness issues however yes I think being

JoJobipolar that would be a negative thing in a dating context I agree that like you said you missed your medication for a bit I'm not saying like you shouldn't do it but it is more challenging to date someone who is me you missed your

JoJomedication for a few days on and that that's why you had an episode but which it again it comes with a negative connotation because there are like problems that could come from it let's literally ask the woman who is in a

Madisonrelationship with someone that had bipolar disorder like would would you say it negatively impacted your relationship I definitely think he should have like he's not with us for a reason right like there's a reason he's

Kylienot here anymore and if he actually was able to get proper treatment instead of trying to self-medicate himself whatever to make him feel better then you know that would have been a way more

Kyliebeneficial outcome for him but you know it's it I don't think life was easy for him I I would say that he had a death wish like what so what exactly is your

Nalaobjection to what my objection is not that you have to date Bipolar person my objection is that the list that you describe basically describing like um her previous partner had I don't

Nalaremember exactly what it had like drug dealer like um criminal and like all the different things yeah like all the different things that were very negatively Associated and very big red flags and

Brian Atlasvery charming and one of them was basically bipolar so I don't think okay let's let's let's simplify this is being bipolar a positive thing or a negative thing I don't think it should be a

Nalapositive or A negative but the list that you had is basically drawing it into a negative way I definitely do think that people who are artists if you look at Van go and amazing art he created like

Nalaum or Selena Gomez with his music there's tons of different creative genuses but for your partner yeah simplify more for like a in the dating sense though right and even in the dating sense I think it was kind of

Nalaoffensive for you to like have bipolar in the list of things that are clearly we would all agree are like negatively Associated what okay

Brian Atlasso you don't think that being bipolar is a negative thing no do you take medic you're bipolar correct do you take medication for it

Brian Atlasyes and a psychiatrist therapist why why do you take medication for it same way somebody has heart disease and have to does anybody want heart disease is it a positive to have heart

Matthew Gallagherdisease like it's okay like you can say it's negative like it's negative I'll change my example when somebody is like tired and wants to take coffee caffeine is a drug so qu question they're not

Nalaalways tired it's not like that's a diagnosis I feel like it's a challenge more of like than a negative because negative ass signs it like a negative you can dance around this all you want if you're questioning me whether I would

Nalalike if there was a magical pull or somehow that I would take take away completely 100% heal my bipolar and schizophrenia and I would just be gone with it I would say no because I would

Nalasay 100% no why you feel like it's like a superpower not in that way but I think there's a lot of like creativity in me I do a lot of different artworks and different you think all creative people

Nalanot all creative people but I'm saying there's so wouldn't you rather just be creative and not have bipolar disorder that could be an option but I personally don't think that it's

Brian Atlassomething that I want to like fix essentially but what about like some of the challenges you've Gomez actually a creative genius like she has a producer does she write her own lyrics

NalaShe probably like I don't know the detail I don't give a I don't listen to Selena Gomez don't most pop artists she's like a she's an empowering woman and also talks speaks loudly about

Brian Atlasbipolar disorder and mental illness that's cool but like you you came at it from this well her creativity but like don't most po pop artists have producers and

Nalasongwriters so what about van go I'll I'll throw in another example at you go producer oh yeah he he definitely he had so like name me one artist that doesn't have a producer who is able to do all

Brian Atlasthis on their own and is not like you probably can't think of an example exactly so you should probably name of think of a who like I said name an example of an artist or is your argument

Brian Atlasmental illness is good because it inspires creativity in these individual is that your argument well didn't God makeal should not be sorry didn't God

Nalamake everyone Perfect 10 out of 10 okay deren my question answer my question I don't think mental illness should be seen as a negative thing it's something

Nalathat like what if somebody I'm just throwing it on example like somebody was born with like four fingers or like some certain thing things that make you unique or allow you to have that

Nalaspecific thought process I know some people who are autistic like seeing shapes like I think that's very [ __ ] cool like you know so I don't think it's like something that should be viewed as a negative thing we're not seeing you as

JoJoa negative person but like you would rather not have mental illness right she said no she said she said she want to keep it but then I was asking about like what about your mental illness a lot of these like bad outcomes that have

Nalahappened like with the case of if I look back since TW March of 21 until now honestly the amount of progress I've made is a lot better than what it was truth bomb donated

TTS Donation Reader$100 watch out she wouldn't change her mental illness causic gives her an out to delete people and claim insanity and an artist that does it all on their own is Tom

Brian AtlasMcDonald I haven't checked out McDonald McDonald but I'll definitely check it out okay look again I'll just restate my position I have compassion for people

Brian Atlaswho suffer from uh various mental illness issues however in the context of a conversation about dating yes it's suboptimal to date somebody who is

TTS Donation Readersuffering from mental illness living underscore donated $100 people love their mental illness because it makes them the main character and unique and different saying you

TTS Donation Readerwouldn't get rid of your mental issues proves this look at all this attention she gets so thank you living okay so if

Brian Atlasyou're bipolar what what are some of the uh like symptoms of that how how could that manifest itself for example in a relationship right mood swings I

Nalamean right now I'm in medication so honestly I haven't had a single hallucination delusion or what happens if you forget your medication has that happened no I have not you've never forgotten it no you said you did when

Brian Atlasyou poked no I meant from I'm sorry I meant from like 2021 till now so question for you you know there was the incidents of you in Las Vegas where you

Nalayou sliced the guy or you stabbed him how whatever the framing is did was your bipolar part of that 100% but also I was

TTS Donation Readernot treated well I was not taking my medication n donated $100 any sane person knows that it's a negative I don't want to sleep in the

TTS Donation Readersame bed as someone who at a moment's notice May launch a knife into my throat because my cold feet touch her you you were arrested the the you stabbed a

Brian Atlasguy by your own admission because of your bipolar disorder going corre yes but is that is that fair to say it's not fair to say just bipolar if you were to

Nalaperhaps there factors let's say it's 50% the cause would that be fair I mean I don't have my Statics statistics out but I do know cont fact there's a difference

Nalabetween a Bipolar person who's refusing medications who's not seeking treatment who's not doing good and taking drugs and alcohol versus somebody who is taking their medication who is doing really good in school contributing to

Brian Atlassociety and all of that things there's a difference between them I mean sure but would you say that in your case was you being bipolar contributing factor to the

NalaLas Vegas stabbing incident treated bipolar yes still bipolar un treated bipolar were you treated previously like refly but I was off my medication at that time and currently I

Brian Atlasget drug tested just to make sure that there's enough like medication so well my understanding with bipolar even if you're medicated there's it doesn't 100%

Matthew Gallagherdiminish the impact have the therapist and it's like you see different counselors are so are you are you trying to say that uh it's odd for people to

Nalasee it as a liability in dating yeah I don't you think that's odd right like I think people should take it into context like how you do see the comedy in this right because of the thing that happened like two years ago I definitely do see

Nalait but also as a mental health Advocate I don't want my story to be used as something that would like make people think oh the bipolar people are they're going to like stab you or something like that that's why I'm trying to talk right

Nalanow and I get it it's kind of hypocritical in a way but that's why I'm like being super honest about it and coming on this podcast in the first place because I'm sure there are plenty of people who have bipolar who have known somebody's

Matthew Gallagherbipolar and they're just judging them out of no reason yeah it's not really it's not like a character judgment it's just a it's a fact it's part of their personality it's something that you know a mate should be aware of and decide

Nalawhether or not that's a you know a factor in dating them right obviously you have your preferences in dating but Brian earlier used bipolar in a kind of offensive Way by I mean look I'm I'm sure that you would say you wouldn't

Matthew Gallagherdate a guy that's like 52 or something right like and you would have no worries about offending you offend a short man but like I never said that not wanting to dat a Bipolar person is like not okay

Nalayou said saying that it was a negative is yeah saying that it's a negative is it good to be a 5-2 man I mean like depends on other factors but Brian was listing at different things that were

Brian Atlaseverything was a red flag and associating and yeah shoot me it also with kids being bipolar yeah being bipolar is a red flag sorry is that offensive mental illness also you could

Nalayou could have a preference on not wanting to dat bipolar for but the way you were describing it was kind of offensive to anybody who's like had not necessarily well was it also offensive to drug addicts was it also offensive to

Kyliecriminals I mean like I think we I think we would all agree that like drug dealers are not okay like I think well people and initially I thought it was the drug use that was

Kyliecausing all of his erratic behavior and then when we got back together the last time and we were both completely sober he definely Johnson and

Brian AtlasJohnson was the same madna sorry my bad I'm gonna get canell be real

Brian Atlasuh all right I've offended the bipolar Lobby I look I again I have compassion for people who are bipolar or are struggling with their mental uh mental

Brian Atlashealth mental illness I don't think it's wrong to say that it would be it's it's a negative in a dating context to date somebody who's like got a uh mental illness that can significantly interfere

Nalawith their relationship you can say you have a preference but to word it that way but we can we can move on okay fine I'll

JoJofine okay I'm I was being offensive or was I I don't think I was I think some people with bipolar as well would would you date a psychopath okay not to date them right would you be like

Nalado you think being a psychopath diagnosed let me do you think being a psychopath is a negative thing I mean there's different there's a difference between personality disorder

Brian Atlasand versus bipolar bipolar is it isn't bipolar cluster personality disorder it's there's different tiers within is bipolar a personality

Naladisorder I would have to double check the DSM handbook on diagnosis but there's a difference between somebody who has like just a little bit of depression versus somebody who's like

Nalaclinically like there's like different right like there's different levels to it obviously I feel like being a psychopath a negative thing

NalaI would have to like evaluate it especially because like is that like somebody that just says oh I'm a psychopath or is it like diagnosed like I don't know like diagnosed yeah I would

Matthew Gallagherprobably not but I would not aren't you worried about offending all the Psychopaths that are watching right now mental illness that's you got to be careful do you see look when it's a personal thing that you're experiencing

Matthew Gallagheryou want to reframe it in a positive way because you live with that right like I think that everybody's compass pass about that but when that's something that you're going through you to enable you to you know feel okay about that like you're going to want to reframe it

Matthew Gallagherin a positive way you don't have to though you can just admit that it's not the ideal situation that you're living with and then just like keep taking your medication and doing well in school if you look there's a reason why everybody

Matthew Gallagherhears the thing that you're saying and they see it as peculiar because no one here would wish that they had it I think that it probably came from rough childhood I'm assuming right I mean I just want to be embracing

Nalathe moment there's a lot of different studies that talk about that life is eternal suffering and honestly what I can do is embrace the moment and instead of like being like this that that I'm like wow like that's a nice that's a nice Outlook to have on it but like we

Matthew Gallaghercan still have like negative traits about ourselves and admit it you know it's okay like I have stuff about me that I don't like that I wouldn't call it it's not I'm not diagnosed but you

Nalaknow I got dandruff is that POS I can't believe you just why it's negative I don't even know you should I'm offended if you don't want to date me and you listed as a negative say that you have

Matthew Gallagherto a Bipolar person I'm just saying the list that you provided was extreme red flags and you had the bipolar but why was bipolar the only one that's not appropriate to list in the list of red flags because the other things were

Matthew Gallagherclear red flags but to everyone else that's not bipolar we see that as a clear red flag I don't think criminals would get offended that criminal is a red flag Ender what about a drug addict

Matthew Gallagherwhat if they say that's mental think I'm addicted and you don't think so I don't think so but I mean are you a drug addict no okay so I mean if there were a drag addi sing here they could probably make the exact same argument that you're

Nalamaking about bipolar you know it's just like it's a personal really see the charity or any organization that's like there are lots of Charities dedicated for drug addicts drugs rewi I'm saying

Nalaopposite direction like Pro like let's take a lot of drugs oh like you know like that I'm just saying like nobody would be advocating for that well yeah nobody Advocates to have bipolar disorder either like same I guess I'm

Brian Atlashere right I just think it's it's a treatable thing like it's treated because it's not ideal yep we can we're just going in circles

Brian Atlaswe're just she she I offended her uh it was offensive for me to say that to to consider being bipolar a

Brian Atlasnegative um so yeah going back though okay so you're dating this guy all these all these negative things

Brian Atlasyeah except for the bipolar that was neutral I guess um you dated him for from 20 to 32 I

Brian Atlasknow he took up a lot of years yeah I know my best years I'm just from the guy's perspective hearing all these negative

Brian Atlasthings and maybe it's the case that that men appreciate peace in relationship more than women maybe but it's like some

Kyliewomen not all women but is it like some maybe love this sort of roller coaster like are you addicted to that excit him it got to a point where we were feeding

Kylieoff of each other's energy because we knew I think we were together for so long we knew exactly where each other's buttons were like we knew each other better than we knew ourselves to to

Brian Atlasdegree sounds toxic yeah so yeah and you said during this like 12 13 year relationship you only saw one other guy the guy you dated for three years or

Brian Atlaswhatever correct correct yeah uh I mean how do you I guess my question is is like how do you go from all that chaos to just dating a normal good well

Kylieadjusted man well I never said he was completely well adjusted the the other guy guy no no but like I mean in general like how do you

Kyliego I think he felt very safe and he felt very different than the the guy that I had been with and I was looking like for that safety and to feel like

Kyliecomfortable like that he I think he really really liked me like and I knew that and so I felt really safe in

Kyliethat the and then but it wasn't actually like it wasn't actually a good relationship where we were both I think I I think I was kind of using him

Kylieto a degree to get over mine you gave up 13 years of your life I thought we were going to have kids and get married one day you know what this is the guy you

Kyliewanted the the crazy guy I know I know I know I know it's the I can fix us have you heard you can do to a woman except bore her I yes I have that written down

Matthew Gallagherin my notes gangster so true I I just wait what you can do anything to a woman except bore her and it's the most true statement that I mean if you really think about the things

Matthew Gallagherthat you're attracted to and where you start to like uh you know lose the spark with somebody it's when it gets comfortable and it's when it's too safe

Kylieand it's boring mhm yeah it's facts facts it's facts I'm also an only child my parents were never married but they lived together my whole life so that's

Kyliesuper complicated I basically watch them growing up just like annoy each other enough to get like a reaction and prove that the other one's still gave a [ __ ] about them that's you know so that was

Lydiamy role models so it makes it tough yeah do you feel like you felt like really trapped in it too cuz I feel like that's something that when I before I um started dating my fiance I would like

Kyliefeel trapped to dating these terrible guys I do because I feel like I was always the excuse for my parents well we're doing this for you we're staying together for you but it's like if they had just split up and I would have saw them in a happy relationship I feel like

Brian Atlasthat would have been so much more beneficial yeah you know but it does sort of we were talking about stereotypes earlier and you mentioned the thing about when the um

Brian Atlasyou can do anything but bore a woman basically uh there is this sort of stereotype that seems to exist in women but not so in men like men aren't really like chasing after bad

Brian Atlasthe bad girls but women are attracted to Bad Boys jerks [ __ ] but there's not really that corresponding thing in

Brian Atlasmen which I find interesting that is more of a masculine trait right I don't think it's a masculine trait I my theory and it's just a theory is that the

Brian Atlasreason why women might be attracted to there's this concept there's this term called hrista like attraction towards the criminality essentially my my thought process my

Brian Atlastheory on why that could be is that one of the things women look for in men is the ability to protect to be a protector and a man who's more willing and also to

Brian Atlasprovide too a man who's more willing to bend the rules to to procure resources could in some conceivable Survivor uh

Brian Atlassurvival situation be more capable of providing and protect also a man who haser capacity for violence could be deemed more attractive because they're

Matthew Gallaghermore they're more prepared to be violent and protect her in some sort of evolutionarily like if you boil it down to like caveman times yeah right the most Alpha One would kill the least one

Matthew Gallagherif it meant protecting the tribe or just like you know and a criminal sort of like evokes these visceral feelings from women this is why like murderers are in

Matthew Gallagherjail with pen pals and with women that will come for conjugal visits because it's uh it just it does something to your loins or whatever a lot of women love chaos they love adrenaline they

Nalalove the thrill cuz it entertains them and they're never bored right yeah I don't know the name of the website but I there's literally a website where you can look up M shots and like find their address and like send

Brian Atlasthem like I've seen Tis of like girls be like oh let me go on the side and see which one I want to send mail to like to your credit that is a good point there is a higher uh there's a higher number

Brian Atlasof women who will like uh reach out to uh men in prison for example looking to start some sort of romantic relationship they'll be pen pals with these men they'll pursue romantic relationships

Brian Atlaswith these men there's a high there's some men do that too but there's a much higher uh percentage of women that that do this and uh but yeah it's definitely that's a great Point Madison that there

Brian Atlasdoes seem to be this thing where it's like a a lot of women would prefer to be with like a kind of toxic but exciting guy versus kind of like the just kind of

Madisonmaybe a little dull boring good guy but dull and boring I've been both of those guys I've seen the difference between my dating like life I also think it has to do with like sometimes the way that the

Madisonwomen grow up because if you're around criminality more if your family is like gang members or like if you just grow up in like that type of community you're more used to it so it's like not crazy to you like it's normal also like

Brian Atlaschildhood like trauma or like not having the father around I think that's what makes girls want attracted to that kind type of let me just drop a Bible verse here Proverbs

Brian Atlas21:19 better to live in a desert than with a chalome and nagging wife how is the wife nagging in this situation what do you mean what does that have to do with

Brian Atlasright now I'm saying like I think men play so far far greater value on peace in a

Matthew Gallagherrelationship than women do do you feel that way oh yeah do you want to feel like completely safe in a relationship with a woman I heard you say before you might not want to ever

Matthew Gallagherget married right yes so what's the goal like a life partner just not with the contract pretty much okay pretty much that's that's the dream don't want the government involved but yeah I mean like

Brian Atlasone of the biggest things uh I think is that is it actually you were there when we had Orion on maybe you can recall exactly what Orion said but I think one

Brian Atlasof the biggest things that a woman can do to make herself appealing to a man is it was lack do you remember in offensive being inoffensive now I think bringing so like

Brian Atlasbringing peace Orion's thing was like well you should have peace in your life already yeah but my my thing is peace is lack of Chaos

Matthew GallagherI think yeah I don't want do you want that lack of chaos oh yeah you don't want any chaos no chaos you have the most chaotic podcast on that's the thing so in my relationship okay in your relationship I already deal with like I

Brian Atlasthink that's the thing with like especially uh you know like men who are entrepreneurs or business owners or any guy that's like out there grinding yeah like we're already fighting the world

Madisonand we don't want to be fighting with our girl in a relationship I want like total peace in my relationship so yeah being inoffensive I think or was that and it was just like respecting your man

Brian Atlasor like showing him a lot of respect respect and being in offensive respecting him no matter what like a girl who's always quarreling nagging arguing taking issue with like little things what about a really calm girl but

JoJochaotic surroundings so she can tell you stories every day like very interest what do you mean like she's calm but she's calm but the people she surrounds herself like her friends just are doing the wildest Things and she can always tell

Brian Atlasyou about it I well I think friends can have a massive influence on you and I would question typically you know if you have a group of five drug like say they're all drug

Brian Atlasdealers but one is like the goody two shoes uh I feel like eventually that that one might end up wow slanging some crack just saying well they say you're

Madisonthe sum of like the closest five people around right yeah yeah yeah I think men don't really care about being entertained to the extent that women do also so like you probably don't even want to he stories Patrice O'Neil I

Brian Atlasdon't know if you guys know him rest in peace Patrice O'Neil yeah he's got this uh he's got this saying is how does it go maybe chat can help me

Brian Atlasum it goes something like we we want you around oh know yeah we want you around but we don't want you

Matthew Gallagheraround it's like you want the comfort of having a woman right or a partner and not having them there all the time we want you with us but not yeah not really

Brian Atlaswith us yeah um oh it goes men wait hold on men want to be alone but we

Brian Atlasdon't sorry [ __ ] it's not loading men want to be alone but we don't want to be by ourself

JoJowould you find it to be a red flag if a woman thought the same way as that what do you mean so like let's say a woman also wants that like they don't want to

TTS Donation Readerbe alone rest in peace but they want to be by themselves like what have a woman thought that way would you be okay it sounds like a great PA you would think Lauren donated $100 rest inace do any of

TTS Donation Readerthese girls actually know how an abortion happens have the pro-choice girls answer first then the pro lifee girl answer second what does that mean how it happens that's like what happens

Juliein you guys know how it happens anybody know how I think you can take a pill up to like 8 or 10 weeks and then just have have a abortion at home basically by yourself or uh you can have it surgically removed after that I don't

Brian Atlasknow exactly up to when but yeah how do you all think well you are not no don't don't don't wrong with it just matter you brought props if I could get them through TS then I could get them my

Brian AtlasChristian carrot medical tools hold on just kindly I I don't want to I look I don't know if it's fine or not with

Brian AtlasYouTube baby dude you think not a baby yo yo yo yo hold on stop this is my podcast I told you no repeatedly is the baby okay not the no just put that [ __ ] [ __ ] away

Brian Atlasthat's such a cute bro I have a mind to [ __ ] kick you off the podcast right now I told you no I don't have an issue with your position but we have to be considerate of YouTube guidelines twitch guidelines I don't know what you're pulling out like don't play that [ __ ]

Brian Atlasgame with me no no no it's just the do I carry it around all the time yeah but if I say no yeah no it's fine I didn't I didn't hear you over everyone else yeah oh of course that's [ __ ] [ __ ] you you [ __ ] heard me I okay I'm I apologize but I yeah don't try to like

Brian Atlaswhat are you trying to [ __ ] do come on my podcast and get my [ __ ] Channel nuked I don't know what you're trying to [ __ ] show well you could have just asked me that I literally told you no well I did that's why I put it away I

Brian Atlasdidn't know I didn't you put it away after I had to like put my foot down repeatedly I didn't know it was a problem I mean you're that's why I told you no okay and I I put it away I didn't I put it away your I didn't know it was

Lydiaa problem I mean your staff saw me bring it in and I didn't I didn't think it was a problem when I searched my bag I see them scissors up in there like that I I apologize it's nothing it's

Lydianothing that would get you taken down though so I don't I I I apologize if that triggers you I just didn't I just didn't mean hold on let me make something very

Brian Atlasclear I don't have a issue with your pro-life position what I do have an issue with is you presenting anything on camera that could negatively impact my YouTube channel now I know that again I

Lydiadon't have an issue with your thing but like kindly respect have I not seen uh Trent horn shown show pictures of uh of babies and bring books on the show this is the whatever podcast yeah on the

Brian Atlaswhatever podcast no I don't recall what was shown or not in the Trent horn debate I but if you show certain imagery that's that's gruesome yes that will

Julienegatively impact my channel I'm pretty sure they showed pictures of what a fetus would be at certain weeks or whatever but they didn't show what an abortion would look like yeah I wasn't I wasn't going to go and rip the doll apart I'm not a crazy person I mean that is what happens in an abortion but I'm I

Julieobviously I'm not going to damage a it's just it's just a doll and force that as a medical tool it wasn't anything bad I wasn't trying to sabotage sabotage your your podcast I think forceps are used for more than just abortions though are they not yeah but an abortions are used

Brian Atlaslook I'd rather air on the side of being cautious and not potentially risk the video getting [ __ ] demonetized cuz you want to rip like look again I don't have an issue with your position but it

Brian Atlasis like a pro-life strategy to show like gruesome pictures of abortions and [ __ ] I didn't bring a gruesome picture of I know but you're rifling through your purse and like this shit's Li

Nalaokay put away I'm respecting your decision oh my God bro Brian I get you but why did their like why did the staff just like I don't know I don't think they knew exactly what was in there what she was going to do I'm I'm respecting I

Lydiadon't understand why you're angry I put it away I respect your decision you you weren't though did I had to say no multiple times I did not hear and once I heard you say no I started putting them away and I asked you for clarification I

Lydiajust don't it kind of loud I put the tool I put the tools away immediately I kept the baby cuz I I don't really see how a baby could get your your content taken down yeah but I don't know what kind of [ __ ] you're trying to do like okay you could have just asked

Lydiaclarifying question it should have just if I just say no like that should be the end of it away and I apologize no I had to be pretty forceful multiple times I put I put the tools away right away I just

Julieheld the baby in my hand I wasn't waving in the camera I was just holding it and putting it back in my purse to be fair when people ask what an abortion is and then you start pulling for steps and a baby out of your first

Lydiathat's a little it's not like it's not like I came on and started waving the the tools or anything in your face I wasn't trying to be I'm not trying to be disrespectful of your podcast at all and I respect your decision I I I that I was trying to answer the question and I just

Lydiahappened so maybe ask before you do it that would probably be most respect I I if I had known that was an issue I would have but I i' i' if I can bring those every all of that through TSA airport security then I don't really see what

Lydiadoes TSA have to do with YouTube and twitch to I thought it was a whole weapon thing is this U ofy could get taken down is that not no it's not a weapon it's just like we're talking about abortion that's like a really

Brian Atlasserious so we're not allowed to talk about abortion on here now well we're not allowed to like no bro I'm just being over I'm just being risk averse to like you potentially bringing something

Brian Atlasthat again don't have an issue with what you're preaching at all my issue is YouTube and twitch have very strict guidelines when it comes to what we can

Brian Atlasshow so I'm respecting your decision all right bro I'm G to move on we're not going to even go there all right GG does everyone actually know what bipolar disorder is by

Naladefinition I mean I'm not a clinical psychologist and I don't want to give out a definition because I'm not certified in that but I can speak on my own experiences of what it means to like

Nalahave bipolar but um essentially like there's different stages or a lot of people have like different mood swings and the mood swings are not like 24

Nalahours like I feel up and down like for hours it's more like weeks like two weeks of like um like obviously not like taking into account the medication but two weeks of like extreme energy like no

Nalasleep just getting [ __ ] done like on on on and then like next two weeks I might literally just be so tired and exhausted and depressed like in bed and not able to do anything so that's one of the

Nalathings but um but I also have like schizophrenia which is like delusion the delusion aspect of it but that's what I would describe like my my personal

Nalabipolar so so no definition that's just me as well all right car I don't want to give out wrong medical like definitional or terms if it's not like Carrie kitty

Brian AtlasBrian what caused your back pain uh just I've had a couple injuries over the years uh all right let's see we have you slip

Brian Atlasdisc uh I have I have a fracture at L5 S1 it's a long story but um uh can I have you can I Julie can I have you read

Juliethis one Malia you said last time Malia you said last time you're into nerds who don't like you in return and you prefer to meet men in person how has a beautiful rational woman stayed single for 2 and A2 years are you

Julieprivately crazy SL needy too picky is it the farting make it make sense Brian I'm going to be like a fart

Maliagirl I didn't I didn't toot um didn't do it and I think I'm not privately crazy I think it's pretty open I'm just kidding

Julieum no I'm just bad at dating I think I don't know okay can uh can I have you read this one um Selena Gomez just sat on the right dick at the right time that was her

JoJoTalent then Haley Baldwin came and stole her dreams he's he's a Justin Bieber Stan apparently I don't know anything about these people that's crazy he has that lore a day can I have you read this

Julieone uh I misspoke on this no Brian bipolar is not a cluster B personality disorder recheck the dsm5 also is having PTSD a negative trait in a partner if so are women justified in viewing Veterans

Brian Atlasas suboptimal partners since they're more likely to have PTSD thank okay clarification on that I yes I I got my wires crossed I was

Brian Atlasthinking of BPD borderline personality disorder which is a cluster B personal personality disorder I believe along with NPD narcissistic personality

Brian Atlasdisorder and I believe the other one is antisocial personality disorder you guys can for cluster B personality s so I I I got that wrong uh having PTSD a negative

Brian Atlastrain in the partner uh I as opposed to somebody who doesn't have PTSD again I have compassion for people

Brian Atlaswho do have PTSD but yes I would say it's a suboptimal dating choice to date somebody who PTSD if you're f look if you're fine with it and

JoJoyou're willing to take on the potential burden then that's totally fine but yeah there there seems to be a lot of confusion like someone with anxiety it's suboptimal right that's sub optimal

Brian Atlasto date someone with anxiety too to dat someone without could have it could have negative impacts on the relationship if they have agoraphobia for example and they have a fear of like going out into

Brian Atlaspublic that could prevent you if you're say more EXT rted and you like to go out to dinner or you know go out places publicly and your partner doesn't that could be a negative in the relationship that could have a negative impact but

Nalaalso not every there's not a single person that has 100% perfect mental health everybody has their own issues and it's just like different or in different levels so like sure you know

Brian Atlashere and I'll just answer the last part uh I think she got triggered in the YouTube chat because like we didn't answer her thing right away just FYI if you're sending a super chat through YouTube uh we get to it when we can get

Brian Atlasto it you sent this at 9:47 so that was about 20 minutes ago so I'm I think we're actually getting it to getting to it in a pretty reasonable time frame here your last thing are women justified in viewing Veterans as suboptimal

Brian Atlaspartners since they're more likely to have PTSD well I mean do they have P PTSD do they do they not people have different experiences when it comes to

Brian Atlasuh their time in the service um I don't think women are beholden to date anybody for any reason you're not nobody should be forced to date anybody people can

Brian Atlashave any preferences they want when it comes to dating if a woman doesn't want to date somebody who was a veteran that's her prerogative I she can not want to date somebody because his favorite color is

Brian Atlasblue don't care you can have whatever preference you want that's everybody's allowed to have their preferences so um they could be

Brian Atlaswrong Blue's a [ __ ] dope color I have blue eyes [ __ ] you but whatever okay uh Maddie can you read this one actually Julie let's have Julie do it she's a good reader sorry Maddie

Julieyou're fired um Julie's hard actually we should have her be you want to be helmet girl okay we'll talk for the next MD's on break and yeah on vacation comeing don't argue

Julieor debate with woman you will never win and you'll keep going in circles just walk away since sinly The Meta Alpha The Meta Alpha kind of crazy Carl Bennington meta

Brian AtlasAlpha the man that Miss so Legend all right let's see where were we um did you pull up that yellow one Nick you can get

Brian Atlasto it whenever you can um pre-show notes okay Kylie uh you're dating the dude um you said you're currently in a situationship with a guy I am I am it's

Brian Atlasbeen going a year he just moved back to my area in November but you said it's fizzling

Brian Atlasout did I say it's fizzling out and I think yeah uh oh exposed you said in the pre-show notes at first talked about wanting to have babies and seemed very into me but things have been fizzling out yeah so like when he would come here

Kyliewhen he was working elsewhere and he would come into town and we would like date and see each other it just seemed like he was way more interested versus now it's like we're seeing each other

Kyliemore frequently and we're still not really communicating properly either I think we're both very uh similar oops

Kyliepersonality wise and so we're just it's just it's not necessarily fizzling out I think we're at a point where we need to like verbalize our boundaries what we're

Brian Atlaslooking for in order to move anything forward if that makes sense okay you wanted to talk about we're all products of our culture did you want to is that enough of a prompt

Kyliefor you to well I do think that we are as young women like they we are so imprinted that

Kyliewe're girl bosses and like we're so powerful and we don't need men and for me you know that was kind of ingrained in my mind and then Co happened and all

Kyliethe sudden I was like oh I want to feel like safe and and reminded me of like that feeling when I was was in those relationships of before and felt unsafe right

Kylieand I think that a lot of women feel like that like they want to feel safe and I think men and women are having a

Brian Atlashard time finding like setting setting what we want from each other and then fulfilling those roles for each other right you said that men were not taught how to be

Brian Atlasreal men opening doors being respectful fixing things taking taking lead in a relationship being confident about what they want and where they are going and

Kyliewomen aren't taught how to uh be proper wives and like take care of the house and do the things that you know women were taught before so it's like everything's kind of all out of bounds

Kylieand nobody knows their roles for anything do you not think that women should have careers I mean I think that women should have something that they're passionate

Kylieabout um I mean your kids obviously but I don't necessarily like women so women are bosses and we do Run the World

Kylieby whispering in men's ears because men are usually fighting Wars over women right like women use their their energy and

Kylielike their they manipulate wait I mean to a degree but that's what inspires men to do great things and and whispered in the ears yeah success is achieved by are

Brian Atlasyou saying like women's standards make men work harder for themselves correct yes I don't disagree necessarily I mean obviously motivation men get yeah

Brian Atlasexactly men will be the way you word it it was kind of like yeah kind of cool wait so hold on is there do women run the world or is there a patriarchy I'm a little confused here well you guys have the stick so stick I'm pretty sure that

Unknownit's what's up with you and sticks you've been talking about lots of paddles I like playing pool it's like where you and it reminds me of she works with Ed as well

Brian Atlasso lot things a lot of a lot ofs he was a drer a couple more points from you you said calling cap on of girls that say they disclose their career to men well

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