She Tried To MURDER Tinder Date?! E-GIRLS! SUPER Feminist Returns?! NALA SAVED?! | Dating Talk #144

Date: 2024-03-18

Duration: 6h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

JJulie (DT171)>

KKylie (DT144)>

LLydia (DT144)>

MMatthew (DT145)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Lydia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Julie(guest)

SPEAKER_04Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kylie(guest)

SPEAKER_07Matthew Gallagher(guest)

SPEAKER_09JoJo(guest)

SPEAKER_10Nala(guest)

SPEAKER_12Malia(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian introduces returning guests JoJo, Julie, Malia, Matthew and new guests Nala, Kylie, Madison, and Lydia. Notable: Nala and Kylie arrived late. Lydia is engaged; Julie is in a new LDR since last appearance.

“"without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves"”

ControversyNala (SPEAKER_10) discloses she stabbed a Tinder date twice in the neck in Las Vegas (2021) while off her bipolar/schizophrenia medication. Was in delusional state; told police it was revenge for Soleimani (later disavowed). Spent 6 weeks in jail; pled to 2 counts false imprisonment; serving probation. Brian argues a man in same position would have faced much longer sentence. Nala argues women's prison statistics show they have it harder (disputed).

“"I ended up um harm him and stop him twice in the neck during sex"”

Key MomentBrian argues female privilege in sentencing: Nala got probation for stabbing; a California woman who stabbed her boyfriend 108 times got probation. Brian states a man in the same situation would face significant prison time. Nala challenges this, citing mental health and criminal history context.

“"if we put a man in that woman's position... there would be significantly long prison sentences"”

Key MomentJoJo (returning guest, prior "super feminist" episode) maintains women can be primary victims of war by redefining "victim" as those who suffer most vs those who die most. Brian shows D-Day Into the Jaws of Death photograph. Matthew explains that death is the worst victimhood; widow suffers but soldier is primary victim. JoJo ultimately concedes men are primary casualties but maintains women suffer as victims too.

“"women I'll still stand by you are not saying that I'm still standing by it"”

Key MomentSelf-ratings round. Matthew asks panel to rate themselves on looks 1-10. Matthew self-rates 7 (currently); potential 8 if in peak shape. Brian: 5 currently; potential 7-7.5. Lydia refuses objective rating ("everyone's a 10 in God's eyes"). Extended debate follows on whether all sinners are equally evil — specifically whether Madison Vu is as evil as Hitler in God's eyes. Lydia: yes (all equally deserving of eternal death).

“"what does everyone rate themselves on a scale of 1 to 10"”

ControversyLydia (SPEAKER_02) maintains Hitler and Madison are equally evil in God's eyes (all sinners equally deserving of eternal death). Brian repeatedly presses her to say Hitler is more evil. She concedes Hitler's actions are worse but holds the theological position on equal sinfulness. Matthew (SPEAKER_07) asks if Hitler could go to heaven if he accepted Christ before death. Lydia: yes. Matthew: that doesn't seem right. Eventually someone in the room flatulates, diffusing the tension.

“"who is more evil Madison or Hitler... I think that is that the word you used... equally evil"”

Key MomentBody count round prompted by TTS donation from "Stiffler." JoJo: 8, Julie: 7, Malia: 6, Kylie: 7 (admitted range 10-20 when pressed), Nala: same as prior appearance (8, celibate since incident). Discussion of whether women underreport by factor of 3.

“"we're going to have Madison start on this stiffmeister ask the ladies their body count"”

Key MomentMatthew (SPEAKER_07) discloses divorce details: married 8 years, ex-wife was a hair stylist who moved to LA; got pregnant 2 months after meeting. Paid 4 years of alimony; ex-wife became a millionaire from settlement. Community property law: she got half of gifts he bought himself. If they had been married 10 years, alimony would have been indefinite. Made his last alimony payment this month.

“"I mean she became a millionaire from our divorce"”

Key MomentBrian probes Kylie on her 15-year chaotic relationship (ages 20-32). Partner was bipolar, manic, drug addict, physically violent once, involved in criminality. Got shot in college during police raid over a weed plant. Passed away from overdose ~1 year prior. Kylie had only one other relationship in that period (3 years; rebound; ended mutually). Brian summarizes: she gave her best years (20-34) to a bipolar drug addict.

“"you gave arguably your best years from 20 to 34 to a bipolar chaotic drug addict"”

QuoteBrian states his marriage position as a businessman: "we're businessmen... as a businessman we don't sign contracts that don't benefit us therefore no marriage for the boys."

“"as a businessman we don't sign contracts that don't benefit us therefore no marriage for the boys"”

QuoteBrian plays clip of Nala Ray apparently quitting OnlyFans and takes full credit: "we did it boys we did it we saved one only fans girl one porn star... totally because of the whatever podcast father I'm taking full credit."

“"we saved we saved one only fans girl one porn star it was because obviously totally because of the whatever podcast"”

OtherEnd of show. Brian does outro; plans raid on Eson on Twitch (Grand Theft Auto 5). Matthew plugs watchgang.com; announces special giveaway for viewers on Tuesday episode. 07s in the chat. Show ends ~6:37.

“"07s in the chat good night guys"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Eight guests introduce themselves: JoJo (returning; masters student, international affairs; single 2+ yrs; celibate ~2 yrs), Julie (returning; 25, BC Canada, student + OnlyFans; now in LDR 7 months), Malia (returning; 27, OnlyFans mgmt; single 2.5 yrs), Nala (23, Dallas, business student; mental health advocate; bipolar/schizophrenia; on probation), Kylie (34, FL; bartender/yoga teacher; 1.5 hrs late), Madison (19, SD/SB, Whatever staff + SBCC student), Lydia (21, NC, Students for Life spokesperson; engaged), Matthew (38, LA, CEO watchgang.com; returning; divorced).

Kylie lateness debate

Kylie (SPEAKER_05) arrives 1 hour 30 minutes late. Brian debates accountability, punctuality, and whether women have inherent leeway to be late. Kylie argues men need more patience; Brian disputes this as removing female agency. Nala (SPEAKER_10) also arrived ~1 hour late. TTS donations mock the lateness repeatedly. Discussion pivots to general dating context: is being late on a first date forgivable; how long would you wait at a restaurant. Brian references cell phones enabling flakiness. Kylie eventually goes to the bathroom mid-discussion; conversation continues.

Nala's Las Vegas stabbing incident

Nala (SPEAKER_10) describes stabbing a Tinder date twice in the neck in Las Vegas (2021). Was off bipolar/schizophrenia medication; also under drugs/alcohol. In a delusional/hallucinatory state; told police she did it in revenge for Soleimani (disavowed). Victim survived; wounds were minor; did not go to hospital. Nala spent 6 weeks in jail pending competency hearing. Pled to 2 counts of false imprisonment; 3-5 year probation (no prison time). Brian argues a man in the same situation would have faced much harsher sentencing (female privilege). Nala argues the justice system is context-dependent; cites mental health factors. Debate about women's prisons vs men's prisons: Nala claims women die at higher rates in jail; Brian strongly disputes this; TTS donation later cites PBS study (7% higher mortality rate due to illness/suicide/overdose — not violence).

Women as primary victims of war (JoJo returns)

JoJo (SPEAKER_09) maintains women can be primary victims of war. She redefines "victim" as those who suffer most, not those who die most. Matthew (SPEAKER_07) and Brian (SPEAKER_01) argue men are clearly the primary casualties. Brian shows D-Day photograph (Into the Jaws of Death) — no women in the image. JoJo acknowledges men are the primary casualties but maintains that widows and invaded populations suffer as victims. Matthew: death is the worst victimhood; the widow is a victim but the dead soldier is the primary victim. Debate reaches qualified agreement.

Pro-life vs pro-choice debate

Lydia (SPEAKER_02) presents pro-life position as spokesperson for Students for Life of America. Brings model fetal development props; throws one toward Brian at end. Brian and Matthew take more neutral/devil's advocate positions. Julie (SPEAKER_03) raises abortion pills and women knowing what they are doing. Lydia: women who knowingly abort should be held accountable. Brian proposes artificial wombs as compromise; panel mixed. Catholic TTS donation chimes in with faith-based argument. Brian identifies as Catholic and does not believe in reincarnation.

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Matthew (SPEAKER_07) asks panel to rate themselves on looks 1-10. Matthew: 7 (currently); potential 8 if in peak shape/ripped. Brian: 5 (currently; potential 7-7.5 in prime shape). Lydia (SPEAKER_02): "everybody's a 10 in God's eyes" — refuses objective rating. Discussion of what "objective" vs "subjective" attractiveness means. Brian presses with Hitler vs Madison Vu: are they equally evil in God's eyes? Lydia maintains all sinners are equally deserving of Eternal death. Extended theological debate about sin, evil, and whether Hitler could go to heaven if he accepted Christ before death.

Body count round

Brian asks panel for body counts (prompted by Stiffler TTS donation). Results: JoJo (SPEAKER_09): 8 (same as prior appearance). Julie (SPEAKER_03): 7. Malia (SPEAKER_12): 6. Kylie (SPEAKER_05): 7 (stated first); range confirmed 10-20 when pressed. Nala (SPEAKER_10): same as prior appearance (8, celibate since incident). Lydia (SPEAKER_02): not stated (engaged Christian; body count discussion deflected to faith). Matthew: declined (not required for males on this question). Discussion follows on whether women lie about body count; whether men care about body count is insecure or a valid preference.

Marriage, alimony, and divorce laws

Matthew (SPEAKER_07) shares his divorce experience: married 8 years, 2 kids, paid 4 years of alimony, ex-wife (former hair stylist) became a millionaire. Community property law: she got half of gifts he bought himself. Brian: California divorce laws disincentivize men from marrying; 80% of divorces initiated by women. Lydia (SPEAKER_02) argues marriage provides stability and security for women; security for men too. Brian: marriage gives women financial incentive to leave; no equivalent incentive to stay. Matthew: would not get married again; dates for connection without needing marriage. JoJo (SPEAKER_09): would not change her last name; does not care about marriage either way. Discussion of prenups; attorney financial incentives; community property quirks.

Kylie's 15-year relationship and chaotic ex

Brian probes Kylie (SPEAKER_05) on her 15-year on/off relationship with a bipolar man. They met at 14 (friends in high school), dated from college (age 20) to 32. Three breakups; she initiated last two, he initiated the middle one. He was bipolar (undiagnosed), manic, made bad decisions: got shot in college during police raid over a weed plant; physical violence with Kylie once; involved in criminality; drug addiction. Passed away from overdose ~1 year before this taping. Kylie had one other relationship (3 years; rebound from high school friend; ended due to stagnation and dead bedroom). Brian: she gave her best years (20-34) to a chaotic drug addict. Now in a 10-month talking stage with a man who returned from oil rig work in Texas.

Does men disliking challenges in dating make them beta?

Twitter post debated: "men don't want soft feminine women — they want bold dominant women who are submissive for them." Brian disagrees: he does not want a woman who plays hard to get or is a challenge. Nala (SPEAKER_10) argues that playing hard to get creates more excitement (hunter-gatherer). Brian: Proverbs 21:19 ("better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome wife"). Matthew (SPEAKER_07): men like conquest; the challenge aspect makes some sense. Lydia (SPEAKER_02): going to take her husband's last name; finds independence compatible with femininity. Brian: the most alpha men have women throwing themselves at them; the chase is a waste of time. "Play hard to get, quickly become hard to want."

Nala Ray "SAVED" — OnlyFans quit announcement

Brian plays a clip of prior Whatever guest Nala Ray (not present in studio) apparently quitting OnlyFans. Brian takes full credit for this decision on behalf of the Whatever Podcast. Panel reacts. Brian then discusses OnlyFans with Julie (SPEAKER_03): what it would take for Julie to quit. Julie: equivalent-paying legitimate job. Works enough hours to pay rent and fund school. Does not do custom/DM content; just posts. Boyfriend does not subscribe; she has not asked him. Does not want to do OnlyFans forever; plans to use degree after graduation.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas[ __ ] name with the you know who I'm talking the the court case gypsy gypsy Rose no no no like 10 years ago I think

JulieAnthony yes Casey Anthony maybe too soon but I don't know if she's ever really a mother like that was an infant you know maybe not every woman yeah that's Casey

JulieAnthony also there's like abs and allegedly you can also shitty person but a allegedly I don't know I don't know the details I mean she did fail that child regardless but allegedly allegedly I don't know okay

Madisonall right um let me read some more of the chats here we have Maddy can you read this one girls nowadays want to s a d like it was a lollipop and they had a free pass at the Willy Wonka's factory but they don't want to be responsible for their own

Brian Atlasactions facts yo Raphael C barlati wait R sad I don't know if you can get pregnant from that what currency is this what is the r what is that what

Brian Atlascurrency is this is it rupes rub rubles rubles rupes is it I don't

Unknownknow it's the same currency I think in India as well women can make MD women can make mistakes I agree with abortion yo Carl

LydiaBennington what if what if a woman decides her toddler was a mistake and she just go kill her toddler then super late term yeah that I mean some people I have legit met a woman who had her three-year-old child and was so brainwashed by the pro abortion movement

Matthew Gallagherthat she thought she should be able to kill her three-year-old I'm not even kidding I mean that's just like that's mental illness through and through it's very common you would be surprised so do you give like a do you give the baby unborn uh the same rights as a as a hold

Matthew Gallagheron I'll come back to it a born let's call it a born obviously like not the right to like drive or something cuz that's yeah but like yeah the same the same rights yeah so do you think that like a neglectful pregnant woman that engages in some activity where her like

Matthew Gallagherit causes a miscarriage she should go to prison for if she wasn't well first of all is she TR inent no let's say that but I mean look as a mother let's say that you're just neglectful and you leave your kid in the car on accident and they die you could

Lydiago to jail for that do my okay so my focus first of all is not to uh criminalize women my uh my goal is to abortion and I believe that women are second victims of the abortion industry

Lydiaum I I think that obviously a majority of women getting abortions feel pressured into them um obviously abortion the abortion industry is feeling sex trafficking um and obviously women are also lied to they're told that

Lydiait's a clump of cells a lot of them have no idea that they're killing innocent I do believe in uh criminalizing abortionists so I I do think that they the doctors that are doing the abortions yeah the abortions but not the not the

Lydiawomen so I think that again a lot of women don't even know that what they're doing is killing an innocent human being um and they're being lied to a lot of women aren't shown shown the ultrasound of the baby and they're told this lie that probably a lot of you believed and

Lydiayou didn't even know that a heartbeat began so early and there's this this lie and so they have no idea that what they're doing is killing it child now I do think in like a in like a 100 years from now if we make abortion Unthinkable

Lydiaum and the culture's pro-life and everyone recognizes that is a human being in the womb that is equal to you and me that could be something that I reconsider but for now my focus is to um educate women on what abortion really is

Julieand end it are you are you ever worried about the fact that if women don't have safe access to abortion because they're still going to get abortions women are still going to have you know back alley abortions they're still going to do whatever they can if they don't want

Lydiathat baby are you worried that they if they don't have safe access to it it's that's actually going to harm women more uh so first of all there's no such thing as safe abortion because there's nothing safe about harming and killing an innocent child and sometimes harming a

Lydiamother um but I also think that that's the same logic as saying let's legalize murder to make it easier for people to murder people there's no justification to think

Brian Atlasabout that for a second there's no question no sorry sorry I'm I'm very sorry I got do have to move on on for the sake of time but if it comes up organically we can come back to it

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MadisonMaddie solipsism JoJo isn't scared about dying in war she's scared about essay from a war because if we are invaded she has no man to protect her question for the

Brian Atlaspanel do women want a protector do women want to protect her that's all I just got to say yes or no uh you have to want you have to uh

Julieno I would say most women want to protect her I I wish I could be in a position to protect myself but also I'm 5'2 so maybe I guess I'd prefer a man to help show the guns there is no guns I'm

Brian Atlasbuilt like a toothpick toothpick toothpick you know what you should do Julie you should start start up jiujitsu so you can break two men's

Unknownlegs I can be that the same time wait were you there on that show no we just watched it we thought it was a crazy comment listen we have three McDonald's if we have a jiujitsu place I'm down for

Brian Atlasthose watching who don't know we had a girl on a few panels ago who said she had a 411 friend who did jiujitsu and she broke apparently there were multiple attackers she broke all their legs so I

Brian Atlasdon't know if that's one leg each I don't know if she broke she got [ __ ] did one you know [ __ ] like uh what's it called knee reaped anybody here do

Brian AtlasJiu-Jitsu youy what's it called a a reap what what is it when you reap is that is that the term whisper in my ear you got this Gustavo go ahead tell me tell me

Brian Atlasthe terms it's a heel hook heel hook yes break the knee yes break the knee okay than thank you gusta thank you that's why he's here to help me out with

Brian Atlasmy Jiu-Jitsu knowledge um wait did we read this one from think we have a Jiu-Jitsu Place back home oh uh protect her you want to protect her ideally I was grabbing BL or what was the question

Madisondo a question for the panel do women want to protect her yeah yeah yes yes beautiful okay Maddie as long as abortion is legal and birth control is

Madisonallowed men should be completely exempt from child support alimony and should be allowed to completely opt out from any responsibility when impregnating women I concur in any state or country where

Brian Atlasit's legal to get an abortion men should have a corresponding right to forgo any sort of responsibility I agree but that but that also like Dave Chappelle I I'll let you

Juliecome in just to quote Dave Chappelle if you can murder it I can at least abandon it okay go ahead so so that also hurts the children though like if we want like a a society uh I don't know sorry hold

Julieon well wait this oh sister sorry I shouldn't go ahead like if we if we want like a a better Society where where people have more opportunities and things like that like we shouldn't want

TTS Donation Readermen to abandon their children exctly but I mean abortion is uh yeah $200 man appreciate it female

TTS Donation Readerprivilege women who knowingly commits abortion should be held accountable Christian girl do you think God sees abortion differently for women knowingly involved than men equality do I think

Lydiathat God sees abortion differently for women knowingly involved in like for what do you mean for men like if a woman gets an abortion should that affect the father in the same way I don't know if that's I think he might be asking

Brian Atlasclarify if I'm wrong are you asking from the the criminal ization perspective you said like criminalize the uh the provider oh the abortionist the the provider but women should not it

Lydiashouldn't be criminalized as a woman if you get an abortion is that is that the question he said something about men like I assume he talking about the father or the do you think God sees

JoJoabortion differently for women knowingly involved than men well I think it he meant that the men men who are okay with abortion and are okay with he said female privilege women knowingly commit

Brian Atlasabortion should be held accountable I assume he means accountable criminally because your position was the provider should be held criminally liable but not the woman seeking because the provider is the one lying to the women and

Brian Atlastelling them that it's just a clump of cells they're the ones actually killing the children as well wait question though what if in the scenario they they make no such representations what do you mean the woman just they don't tell the woman

Lydiaanything the woman just wants she she's decided already they still know what they're doing they they're the ones seeing the ultrasound um in an abortion the abortionist sees the ultrasound that's how he's able to identify where the baby is so he can vacuum or

Brian Atlasdismember the baby I'm just a guy what do I know do you want to just clarify your question I think I have it right so he's asking you do you think God sees

Lydiaabortion differently for women knowingly involved than men what the father of the child no I think he's talking from the criminal liability oh do I think that

Lydiathe father of the child should be criminally liable do okay do you think do you think like uh there it's a h how do I how do I

Brian Atlasframe this is it less is there less culpability in the eyes of God for the

Lydiaprovider versus a woman the woman who's electing to get the abortion oh do I think that God sees the sin of abortionist differently than uh the woman that's getting the abortion yes I

Lydiathink is that so I think that all we're all equally sinful um I I do think that God obviously is going to feel differently about uh a woman who's being lied to by an abortionist but obviously

Lydiait's a killing of an innocent child God's going to be equally saddened and and um thishe hearten to see any any innocent life ended no matter who's the one killing them so I don't know if that

Kylieanswers the question I think I think it does also isn't abortion kind of enforced in our culture as something that's okay and God would want you to like a man to

Lydialead I would say enforced is nobody's enforcing enforced but presed it's not forc but it's very much like pushed like obviously um 90% of pled parthood are located within 5 miles of a college

Lydiacampus because we're women I think most of most most of us are in college or at least some of us um and we're being told that we can't graduate have a successful career be equal to men if we don't have

Matthew Gallagherthe right to kill our children have you have you heard the the theory behind why abortion has been so readily available because of how much money is made from studying the fetuses and like the selling of the parts and things like

Matthew Gallagherthat oh like stem cell stuff yeah more and more yeah I mean there were like selling to the rich people we're selling baby rich people there were like um there were hidden camera videos of um uh these people that run the clinics talking about how much money they make

Maliafor an aborted fetus why are you guys chuckling over there crazy she was just way too excited about they're selling to the rich people no are they selling it to the poor people conspiracy the so insane it's just so insane it's real a

Lydialot of I mean the idea that it's real is just insane yeah I mean it's I feel like people think it's just the clump of cells but no those babies have real body parts and organs and and people are abusing

Brian Atlasthem there might be some we'll never know did we uh did we finish reading this one right did we read this one Maddie was reading it but then a TTS came in Nick do you recall don't men should be

Brian Atlascompletely exempt from child support alimon and should be allowed to completely opt out from any responsibility when impregnating a woman I think I was just making a point and then the TTS which is why neither should be legal I don't I don't think men

Brian Atlasshould be completely exempt completely exempt no I think what the Dave Chappelle joke if you can I think that's where I got interrupted right I get the idea but like like again what I said earlier um if you can murder it I can

Brian Atlasabandon it but you're going to you're going to raise a society of fatherless children do we want that and wait this almost kind of goes back

Brian Atlasto like what's the greater harm I was with the war thing God I'm so sick of so like what's the greater harm like the

Brian Atlasdad being not present or dead or responsible or the actual child being never having been

Brian Atlasborn kill a child is the worst possible outcome of you hold on I think what we should do is actually double down on

Brian Atlasthis and I think that we should a you can't get an abortion you can't get an abortion but men can they

Brian Atlascan still do a paper abortion that's crazy that's that's what it would be now that that's what that's fair right what's the logic behind that cuz that's what's happening it's not as bad but I no but it's not as bad but I think it's different because women have to carry

Juliethe child so they have to it's like the what the violinist argument like if if you were you had you were stuck in a hospital for like 9 months and someone was plugged into you like stealing your nutrients making you feel sick you were throwing up every morning you were losing your hair you couldn't walk your

Juliebody was changing all of these things I do have to move on I'm sorry my bad sorry I brought up a good argument I brought up a good argument I'm sorry I I was ready for that too clarification

Juliewhen there are okay fine here last last back and forth on this go ahead do you want to finish or well just the violinist argument I would say that's an argument people make that that why abortion is okay because like if I was

Brian Atlaslaying in a hospital bed and you were tied up to me I yeah I'd kill you what if it was her what about her would baby you're dead I would you're gone you wouldn't do that for me Julie I thought we were homies so sorry thought were

Juliehomies you're Gonzo I got out of things going on I'm like a um so wait the the violinist argument is can you state it yeah so you're you uh it's like it's kind of like being pregnant where you're

Julieobviously when you're pregnant you're not like stuck in a hospital bed but it's the same kind of thing where you're plugged into someone and you have the choice uh to kill them early or let them for 9 months yeah kill them early like K

Brian AtlasI thought you said Orly I sorry I'm Canadian sorry I have a crazy accentor kind of a dope way that would be kind of a dope way to die like you're just getting some some brain from a chick and it's so good you

Brian Atlasjust like heart attack I just bro by the way you like [ __ ] your chest up dude holy [ __ ] sorry I have sensitive skin God damn you like I know I have scratching yourself up I just have sensitive skin that's all anyways wait

Juliewhere's the violin in this whole thing I don't know why the [ __ ] it's heard it's the greatest musician heard of it it's the greatest musician they they're a violinist would you kill the greatest viol violinst it's on Earth kind of irrelevant the violinst part but okay yeah do you want me to

Lydiayeah yeah give your response and then we'll move on you can go you go okay you're good just go so I think there's a lot of different arguments I can use to debunk that one I'll just get into a few because I know he's going to kill me if I keep talking about abortion um so uh

Lydianumber one um it's it's a parent child relationship which is different than being tied up to someone uh number two an abortion isn't just unplugging yourself from someone it's intentionally going and stabbing them and killing them it's also very much more traumatic

Lydiahaving an abortion than just unplugging I would exactly exactly um but also um I I get it's very similar but the organ donation you're not forced to donate an organ to someone um the uterus I would

Lydiaargue isn't even made for a woman like the entire purpose of a uterus is to S sustain another human's life like there is no like I honestly could I could live life much easier without my uterus to be

Lydiato be real it caused me a lot of pain the entire point of it is to um help another child um and I I would say that's much different than than using your entire body to uh feel someone yeah it's just like the kind of the the same

Lydiaeffects is what the argument is like it would give like it makes you feel sick you're like bedridden you can't work blah blah blah things like that right so I don't think a child depending on a a mother to survive in a very natural way like organ donation is unnatural our

Lydiabodies are made not saying every woman has to reproduce but our bodies are made to create children and because of that I think it's much different than being plugged up to someone and we shouldn't be killing child children just for being dependent on their mothers for survival

JulieI think end all be all uh if you don't want uh someone to be physically relying on you like that you're not quite ready and ex especially with like once you have a child you still have like 18 years after that where you have to take care of them if you're not ready for that I think it's I think it's totally

Juliefine if you want to have an abortion I have no problem that you wait you you think you should be able to have an abortion for any reason not specifically for any reason but like if you're not ready I think that's okay so like if I'm not ready to take take care of a 2-year-old can I kill them I don't think

Juliea 2-year-old is the same as a fetus why a 2-year-old is living and breathing and they're like communicating with you a fetus is again they're like attached to me in a way that I might not be okay

Lydiawith right but like a newborn is dependent on their mother for survival like if you just set a newborn by itself it can't just like go get a job I but the thing with a newborn the thing with a newborn is someone else can take care of that newborn when that baby's in me

Lydiait's just me so so I'm a missionary kid so I've spent a lot of time in third world countries where in these Villages there is no one who can adopt the child there's no such thing as formula either the mother breastfeeds her child or the baby dies well you can also get a like a

Juliemilkmaid someone who would breastfeed your in third world country that is not a that is not a option and I'm I'm talking about crazy you just said that that is insane now where can we get

Brian Atlasbreast milk sign me up hold on let me let me listen I'm going to I'm going to do this conversation a favor here and uh move on

Brian Atlashere well yes we we can talk about them being late for 2 hours but we can't talk about the leading cause of death yeah pretty much yeah so here's the solution right as the [ __ ] based moderate on

Brian Atlasthis panel this is what you guys got to do put your [ __ ] swords away join together

Brian AtlasCoalition artificial womb just [ __ ] do it it solves the problem they are working on that artificial womb now there's going to be some like other issues that are going to come because of it but strictly if we're look if we're

Brian Atlaslooking at the abortion issue in a vacuum the woman can still not proceed with the pregnancy you insert the fetus into the artificial womb the child can

Brian Atlasstill MH live the you you save the life I know there's a lot I know this is an overly simplistic thing but why don't y'all throw all your money bro

Brian Atlaspro-choice pro- life come together son start invest in some science [ __ ] artificial womb what's well I have some I have some issues with I mean it depends on how good the artificial womb

Julielike I might have an issue as well the baby the baby when it's growing inside you kind of have that connection with it and it's a middle ground this is compromise alternative we don't compromise on killing babies but it wouldn't be killed it would survive it

Brian Atlaswould survive no but it's not going inside mother it doesn't have that same Ty of War you're like pro life right now huh well I'll argue any side just for fun yeah all right hold on no no hold on hold on here Maddie read this

Madisonclarification when there are women who know what they're doing taking abortion pills before The Supreme Court and boasting over their abortion they should be held accountable women are not stupid I think it still is like a cultural

Lydiathing like I I think that even if they like know it's killing a baby they like it's still ingrained in them that it's their right women are like so brainwashed like I said earlier this woman I had met she like acknowledged that it was her three-year-old child but

Lydiashe thought it was okay to kill them and that's not a unique situation that's pretty common now where this idea of my child my choice is not even my body anymore because it's hard to argue that a pre-born child is no no no MADD go

Madisonahead as long as abortion is legal and we read this we read we did okay this this one my bad Catholics need to chill over abortion you guys are the ones that believe in a soul even people that have

Madisonnear-death experiences are until they can optimally reincarceration responding reincar say that one more time sorry sorry I like reincarnate responding in

Brian Atlassecond easy bro I am Catholic so do not believe in reincarnation River Reeves thank you for the Australian 160 man thank you appreciate it dude uh I don't know what's going on with the

Brian Atlasreincarnation down in Australia but son cool cool um okay maybe we can come back to that conversation later but we were going around the table what

Matthew Gallagherdoes everyone rate themselves on a scale of 1 to 10 did you rate yourself no I'll have you rate then I'll rate then I'll address for everybody's a 10 I'm a certified bad [ __ ] let's go let's go

Matthew Gallaghernow I would say it was the question was looks alone right just looks yeah here let me P it up seven okay I give myself a five really yeah man yeah I i' put you

Brian Atlashigher than a f oh thank you thank I I I got I got to lose a bit of weight thank you thank you thank you it's all right it's okay I got to lose a bit of weight I got a dad B right now uh in your Prime

Brian Atlasform what would you be am I prime yeah what's your genetic like ceiling [ __ ] that's crazy question I was like like good question seven 7.5 no really you

Matthew Gallagherthink if I was like if you were like in your best shape and you you know had your best haircut if you were mewing maybe maybe an eight if I'm ripped maybe

Brian Atlasisn't it crazy though that uh that's all within your control I [ __ ] up I [ __ ] up yeah it is nuts it is it is we've got control wait so okay going back to you

Lydiayou said that everybody's a 10 in God's eyes maybe not in humankind's eyes but I personally find that irrelevant when it comes to your I mean I know you're currently engaged to somebody right but

Lydiayou didn't when you were you know considering him as a potential partner oh yeah his his physical appearance or physical attractiveness played absolutely no bearing no it definitely did but that's again that's not in God's

Brian Atlaseyes that's in my eyes like yeah I think he's a hottie and that's my personal opinion but it's not oh so okay I'm asking you so you're saying in God's eyes everybody's a 10 like I don't think

Lydiathere's not like an objective like human standard like I like from a human's perspective someone could give me a two and someone could say that I'm a 10 from a human eyes which is why I think okay it's a subjective question about your

Lydiataste about yourself right and I don't really think about that to be honest until right now until right now the answer is not everyone's beautiful I

Lydiadon't know my is that I don't know I I I don't know I think everyone's beautiful who do you think is more physically attractive well hold on let me ask you do you think Timothy shalam is

Lydiaattractive he's like the really skinny guy right yeah oh yeah he's yeah facially attractive facially ATT me he's not I mean in the eyes of God he's a 10

Unknownbut um let talk about human in my eyes I don't know I I mean he's a brave and a decent man he's a Pioneer also like I'm the sort of person

Lydiathat like I don't like I when I'm like when I dated guys before I was with my fiance like it I didn't really become attracted to them until I actually met them and I feel like that's similar for

Lydiaa lot of girls so I feel like personality has a huge role in it for me but um in general I think he's a like a mediocre wait let me ask you a question

Brian Atlaswho's more physically attractive Joe Biden or your boyfriend my boyfriend well hold on that's in my eyes God's that's just your subjective yes it is

Nalais Biden is also a 10 you don't think there's like what I said in her eyes Joe Biden is also like a 10 in God's eyes yes not in my eyes not in his

Brian Atlaseyes but I do try to see the world are atheists also tens physically yeah absolutely okay all right we're all made in God's image that was a fail

Brian Atlasum okay I'm not going to linger on the 1 to 10 thing but but um wait okay last one Joe Biden or like young Brad Pit who's more physically attractive in my eyes Brad Pit in God's eyes they're

Lydiaequal okay I'm not going to Brian's just like freaking out cuz he's like realizing that he's actually a 10 and he's really happy that's what's going on no I'm a five okay in your eyes not Gods

Brian Atlassure sure okay a god finds you a 10 does that make you feel good do you like God now yeah my life has totally changed you should follow God all of a all the women want to date me

Brian Atlasnow all wom even her she even she wants to dat oh no still not still not even God's will you know can't

Brian Atlaschange AC um all right uh wait oh we have oh my God Stiffler ask the lady wait wait hold on before before we go there do you do you

Brian Atlasobject to men caring about a woman's body count St do I object to it do you object no I I don't know why why would I object to that do you

JoJoobject I don't care but it is their opinion so okay what about you if they're okay with me objecting to their body count so preference it's okay I

Nalaalso believe it's preference but also you can have like lower qu like lower number in Partners but be together longer and like I don't know there's just like context and I would wanted to know their dating history and I would

Kyliethink that they want to know my dating history as well okay all right well what about about you what do you think so I don't think there's anything wrong with it I think it's a personal preference but I also think

Kyliethat it doesn't it shouldn't be encouraged to be something that excludes Partners mhm I think you should be open to getting to know people closer yeah I

Lydiathink you should be open to getting to know people I don't we'll we'll come back to that um you don't object what about you um I it is kind of a preference but here's my

Lydiathing like obviously I am in a different realm cuz I have only dat well I my fiance now is Christian and so when Christians date um there obviously we are going to recognize past sins but

Lydiathat shouldn't be a judgment thing like if I'm dating a guy um who calls himself a Christian he's judging me because I potentially slept with a bunch of um guys and I left that in the past and and turn myself to to Christ I think that

Lydiathere's an issue with someone who is judging someone's past and not willing to um see themselves as equally sinful I think that there's a lot of hypocrisy because while they might not be struggling with the same sin we all struggle with uh doing crappy stuff in

Lydiaour life and so I think it can be really judgmental but I again I definitely think that like if you if a guy starts dating a girl who just slept with 10 10 guys the night before then yeah that's it's a valid reason to not want to not

Brian Atlaswant to date her well look okay from a religious perspective women who've done porn women who've done sex work women who do only fans women who were just not sex workers but they're just rampantly

Brian Atlaspromiscuous uh they can be saved by Christ but men do not need to then disregard their baggage and marry them they don't need to disregard it but I think it's a clear indicator of

TTS Donation Readerhypocrisy if a guy I'm so glad him not dating donated $100 he's a 1010 morally straight a Greek God hung like a moose however you

TTS Donation Readerfind out he's opposed to Illegal IM migrants freely passing the border with little to no screaming your thoughts okay we we'll engage we'll come back to the that

JoJoum oh I'm answering sorry um 1010 morly straight Greek god super attractive well CU hung like a moose but he just does he's against illegal immigration from

Brian Atlasjust like anywhere uh I well I that's doesn't align with my moral so I wouldn't say he's morally straighten my eyes wait so you think it's

Brian Atlasmorally like it's morally wrong to not want rampant illegal immigration oh did he said rampant illegal immigra like you okay you find out he's opposed to

Brian Atlasillegal immigrants freely passing the border with little to no screening okay yeah you think that's uh unethical or immoral position to have no

JoJono that's fine yeah but you you you said that's not a morally straight position because like people have like a bad perception of illegal immigrants but a lot of times it's like they come over at

JoJowhen like at a very young age it's not like it's their their choice a lot of times have have you seen videos of the illegal well yeah that Crossings well there's I mean just there's just extents

JoJoto it so it's what do you mean what's the extent well there's different like sides if they they are very young imigrant have no border I well I'm very

JoJomuch for like just like globalization in general like I think that's so I think that's just the future

Brian Atlasthat's my opinion but so let's say white people oh God you know just wanted to like move to Vietnam or let me think would you call that

Matthew Gallaghercolonization no that's globalism to you I just don't think we should necessarily have Borders or anything so you think you think there should be a government one government over the whole world no there's a lot of

JoJocomplication when it comes to something like that but like um you live how close do you live to the beach very close Okay so don't you think most people would

Brian Atlaslike to live close to the beach sure okay so what do you think about the rent prices and kind of ridiculously high

Brian Atlasyeah so let's say how many people in the world do you think would like to move to the United States I don't know I wouldn't know a billion maybe sure you think a billion

Brian Atlasso what what's the current population of the US 300 million 350 something like

Brian Atlasthat 400 350 not 400 well uh okay do you think we have the capability of just let's say we could just dump the billion

Brian Atlaspeople that would like to live in the US let's say we just dump them all to tomorrow do you think do you think that'd be good for the United States of course St but that wasn't the question like kind of was no it was just like

Matthew Gallagherthat's against illegal immigrants in general and like I'm not against illegal immigrants he say illegal immigrants not being against those people but the act of illegally immigrating against the act

TTS Donation Readerof it I just fre illegally immigrating I guess if they're aware yeah maybe that still 10 then killer of Cal donated $100 choose between data 9 with

TTS Donation Readerextremely low self-esteem and a negative World Outlook or two that whoes confidence and Swagger and keeps a positive outlook and why looks or personality important panel hold on so

Brian Atlaswe we'll just go around the table on the 1010 morally straight Greek God hung like a moose but he's opposed to illegal immigrants freely passing the border with little to no screening that's a fine opposition for me I don't you're

Maliafine with that a 1010 that's hung like a moose is extremely imit intimidating I'm going to pass I'm definitely going to pass intimidated I would be intimidating if he's like so handsome no no thank you

Kylieoh I see okay she wants an ugly guy that's fine I agree with your point holy [ __ ] bro this girl I agree with the point but it's fine okay I'm for it if

Brian Atlashe's a Christian then sure oh my God I know you hate me so much wait if he's a Christian yeah it's F I mean I mean obviously I'm already taking so okay um and then kill of seral choose

Brian Atlasbetween a DAT data nine with extremely low self-esteem and a negative World Outlook or two that ooes confidence and Swagger and keeps positive outlook and why looks a personality

Brian Atlasimportant so nine low self-esteem or two ooes confidence and swacker the second one the two I pick the two two think the personality because you could literally

Nalabe a five but your personality and the way you're vibing can make you a 10 that makes sense two two Personality yeah I take the nine I can fix her I'll take the n but I can fix her there's only

Julieroom for one mentally a little person in this relationship it has to be me what if her low self-esteem causes her to like cheat though to this easy you would rather be cheated on take the nine than like no

Brian Atlasshe back to the streets she goes out here a out out you go um wait okay we were

Brian Atlastalking about body count oh were we I think we just haven't gotten quite yet the credit John Doyle I saw him tweet that on on Twitter today and I thought

Brian Atlasthe point I made about um hold on let me see if I can find the Tweet oh he said uh you know former of girls and I kind of expanded it to girls who are promiscuous or S workers they can be

Brian Atlassaved by Christ but men do not need to then disregard their baggage and marry them so shout out to John Doyle on twiter for that one do you want me to respond to that you said it and I think the point you're making is hypocritical

Lydiaif the guy had a I think it could be a factor like if a a guy meets a girl who says she's a Christian but she like just became a Christian and just like slept all those guys I don't think you should be dating you should be focusing on your relationship with Christ first of all

Lydiabut let's say it's for how long it it depends on I mean it depends on the circumstances I think and like how you are yeah and how her relationship with God is going um and also where you feel

Matthew Gallaghercalled so is there anything that a man could do that uh in his past that you would not look past if he was over performed whatever and now he's a

LydiaChristian um I think it so like if if my fiance I found out he was like a pedophile in the past it I would maybe reconsider just because in the future I do want children

Lydiasorry I don't know if I can say that on here you can't okay just sorry word um um but in the future if because I want kids I could be concerned that that could be a re current issue but I I again it would have to depend on the

Lydiasituation and I think that it all comes down to if I'm not willing to date someone because of their past sins and I need to look at myself first because as much as people have done some crappy things I think that we're all equally

Lydiaawful people and uh we do awful things and equally awful equally awful so hold on hold on

LydiaMr Rogers Mr Rogers great Joseph Stalin Mr Rogers no I think that they they should be punished differently but we're equally evil yes we're all we're all

Lydiaequally um sinners now I I think they should be punished differently of course I mean there are different levels of sin in the Bible right of course but again if you are a person who is sinful then every single person regardless of what you've done deserves to go to hell

Lydiaequally and that's not like a some people get this level of hell some people get this level of hell we all are equally sinful and all equally in need of a saor okay I got another one Madison Vu Adolf

Brian AtlasHitler should be punished differently no no no are they equally evil I think that is that the word you used I I think that that it's evil in different ways there's a no no no no this is who's

Brian Atlasmore evil Madison Vu am I saying your last name or Adolf Hitler and whose eyes and God just objectively well it depends on who

Lydiayou're talking about because objectively I would say in God's eyes like while he obviously loves us all wants us to see him we all are equally deserving of death however what wait equally deserving of death like I mean Eternal

Lydiadeath not not physical death yeah but he he categorizes some sins differently yeah I mean there's like it's already there's different like worldly punishments for each things like if I go and kill yeah cuz they're also because

Lydiathey're affecting people differently like if I go and uh have lustful thoughts that that's different than me going and killing somebody can you answer the question

Brian Atlasthough Adolf Hitler or Madison who's sitting right there who's more evil I it's just it's a very more is very sub

Lydialike I okay to be clear I do think that he should be totally punished and that's no to the fullest of the law okay let's talk about what's objective right let's

Lydiasay that because of Hitler there were 30 million he did was worse to other people but in him he himself is still equally deserving of death just like anyone else like what he did to other people deserving of death thing like I'm

Madisontalking about eternal death like we're all like we're all can anyone here say that they are perfect what I don't even understand okay you said that everyone

Brian Atlaswas a 10 out of 10 okay hold on yo yo yo hold on okay everybody let me help out maybe maybe we're I'm just it's very

Brian Atlassubjective I'm going to give you comparing three people to one person Madison vew Vu versus ma Hitler and

Brian AtlasStalin those three people did worse things but they are so equally in totality I don't that's not the question I'm asking I'm asking you who's more evil it depends

Lydialike are you talking about evil as in what they did cuz obviously what what uh what those evil dictators did erroneous sorry stop it get some help I says

Lydiapeople were all equally sinful and and just messed up in in need of a I don't think I'm is who's more evil do you think they did worse things is this is this

Brian Atlasactually a ecclesiastical bib biblical thing yeah we're all we're all we're all equally evil is that really I saying everyone has the same capacity to be evil right and also like we're all born

Lydiawith the equally sinful nature that doesn't mean we're all going to commit the same sins like there are definitely sins that are worse like so a person that commits those worse sins would be more evil right in the sense of yes

Lydiathey've committed worse things but they're still in in the eyes eternity anyone who has committed any sin is therefore imperfect and that's

Lydialike I got to let it out bro it's it's ARS bro that's ARS I can't say it cuz we on Twitch I can't say it cuz we're on Twitch but that's kind our I think I was pretty clear I think what they're doing

Brian Atlasis worse what they're doing is worse here's the question here's the question who is more evil ma Hitler combine bro this is this is I'm not even I'm I'm not

Brian AtlasGrant you fine Madison is just as evil as as Hitler but if you combine ma Hitler and Stalin I didn't know we were talking about okay who's more evil

Brian AtlasMadison or Hitler and Ma and Stalin and what they're doing than than all the dictators no no no just answer the question okay who's more evil it it depends on how you're defining evil oh

Lydiamy how do you define evil okay there's different ways like in the eyes of the law yeah those people are way worse

Brian Atlaspeople love you by the way not trying to talk not you are not doing you are stallin you not

Lydianot on your Instagram bio you got to put worse than Hitler ma inag oh my God sorry just as bad just as bad what they're doing is worse um and I think

Lydiathat they are are committing sins that are affecting people to a worse extent but like when I'm talking about being equally evil I'm saying that we're all going to the same destination of Eternal death if we don't that you're not

Brian Atlasanswering the actual question though I did I feel like I have no you're not you're talking about something that's totally unrelated well I think it it's a an should I Google let's go evil

Brian Atlasdefinition hold on evil defin let's see if we profoundly profoundly immoral and wicked profound immorality and wickedness especially when regarded as a supernatural Force okay that's another

Lydiaprofoundly this is going to be this is going to be a Hot Topic I think that if we are not following God every everything we do is for sinful intentions Jeff like if you're not doing everything to glorify God then you're

Lydiadoing to glorify yourself actually can somebody fix that oh okay I actually am but I don't agree with her that's that's okay you don't agree that you're Hitler

LydiaI'm I did not say that I don't I'm just I don't understand your logic here like this seems like a layup seems you're not following God then anything you're doing

Lydiais seeking to glorify your glorify yourself which is selfish non seiter what your argument is a non seiter it

Unknowndoes not follow it does follow it doesn't who farted by the way who [ __ ] farted somebody farted did you smell a fart over there yeah I smell a fart what the [ __ ]

JulieM what bro little moles why you [ __ ] farting up in here bro that's crazy that's crazy dude do you smell that [ __ ] I don't smell anything it's MADD can you

Brian Atlasfix that yeah um I do not smell anything keep it on me while it's getting fixed her my go oh my god dude dude dude yo okay is Andrew where's Andrew Wilson bro

LydiaAndrew is Andrew in the chat um who is more evil Madison or Hitler uh Hitler's doings are more evil because

Lydiathey're hurting people no but who is more evil as a person I think I think that's hard because everything you're doing if it's not to glorify God is to do something selfish for yourself which

Lydiais equally evil like the the the your actions are obviously going to be more Evil based on the people they affect but if we're talking about them and their conscience like while your intentions might seem different they're still

Brian Atlasultimately no matter what you're doing they're seeking to Serve Yourself which I do think you know what I'm just going to I think you're just as evil as Hitler

Brian AtlasStalin and Mao and Epstein combined I I would agree you without without what kind of islands are you [ __ ] without what the [ __ ] without

LydiaJesus in my life I I do believe I am equally as fallen and in need of a savior like obviously I'm not going and killing people I've never killed someone wa so if Hitler right before he died uh uh decided to take Christ into his heart

Brian Atlasdoes he go to heaven yeah Jeffrey dmer did fun fact might we can't sure if he actually did or not but all right okay moving moving on let's not linger here

Madisonfor too long um Maddie could have you read this one both men and women can prioritize what's important to them in relationships for me intimacy is reserved for those I deeply love and

Brian AtlasTrust I expect the same from my partner yeah thank you man' what currency is that 83 INR Indian Ruby is

Brian Atlasthat a Indian Indonesian oh IND Indonesian oh $1 okay great good times damn they're getting a good deal there I'm getting I'm getting I'm getting

Madisonripped off holy [ __ ] this camera uh Maddy can you read this one the only time I questioned that we are made in the image and likeness of God was when I saw gorlock here for the first time that

Brian Atlasalmost made me an atheist damn that's tough that's crazy that's tough that's a lot of power all right thank you Rafael uh thank you for these U

Brian Atlasmemberships Ash there okay wait we were talking about body count we okay you were saying it's it's hypocritical for a guy who has a high body count to to judge a woman with a high body count or

Lydiarefuse to date a woman not even he has like a high body count like I think if a Christian guy is dating a Christian girl who has left her old life behind and he is judging her based on her past he

Matthew Gallagherneeds to take a look and examine his his own life um so Hitler can go to heaven if he takes Christ right the minute before he dies but if you just left with like 30 dudes and then you're like I'm a

Matthew Gallagherreformed uh hoe and I'm a Christian now date me that's not good wait asking like how is the woman representing herself right cuz you said before that uh the guy should give her some time to fall

Brian Atlasinto her like new Christian shoes know I'm saying it's like essential but I think it's should be in general recommended so are you are you saying that Christian men are beholden to date

Lydiaand marry previous promiscuous women am I saying they have to get virgins well that's what you're kind of suggesting like like everyone should be able to date based on their personal preference

Brian Atlasbut I do think that it says a lot about a guy if he is judging a woman on his on her past what if what if there were studies to suggest that while being

Brian Atlaspromiscuous and having a lot of past sexual partners for both genders has negative impact on future relationships if it was the case that this impact was

Brian Atlasmore pronounced in women wouldn't it be fair to say that men have a bigger uh have more of a leeway to make a determination cathol donated

TTS Donation Reader$100 saying idea of faith alone is heresy it is against Biblical scripture Hitler is in hell because of his Works

Lydiain life faith without works is dead James 2:26 age return to the Catholic Church okay so first of all I'm not

LydiaCatholic but also um so I think are they trying to say that after Hitler accepts Christ that he's still evil cuz in that case then if he's if he's just accepting Christ like oh I'm going to follow Jesus so I'm going to go to heaven then he's not

Lydiareally following Jesus if you're following someone just to use them then you're not really following them so I think that obviously that is that is not going to heaven that's not really what

Madisonfollowing Jesus is but I think that your past uh it Jesus erases your past when you accept him as your savior and so it doesn't matter what you've done in your past and that's why I'm kind of asking how's the woman repres presenting herself because I feel like a lot of

Lydiaborn- again virgins can be like just like no accountability for what they've done in their no no I think they should be held accountable like I I think that women should be open and honest with that and like again like I do think like

LydiaI'm not saying it is an Abomination for a guy to reject a girl because she slept with a bunch of guys but I do think that it is something to consider like if you're a guy who's judging a woman on her past um and that's the reason why

Lydiayou're not dating her then maybe take a look into your own past because for instance the Bible says that even if you look at a woman l um you have sinned and and and committed

Brian Atlasulry and so um that so question for you question for you on that so let's say a man gazed upon a woman lustfully does

Brian Atlasthat mean he's now beholden a Christian man is beholden to date or marry a woman who previously had who's pre previously a prostitute and previously had beded a

Lydia100 men I don't think I've ever said that because is that as worse is that as bad which one's worse wait what I'm I'm conf I I've never said that you have to date someone that's slept with a bunch of people in the past but you seem to

Brian Atlasreally want to pressure men especially Christian men into just accepting past promiscuity I I don't think you should obviously not accept it like oh I'm totally fine with it like

Lydiathat should be like a conversation you have where hey I did this in my past I'm really sorry for it I've left that life behind and I've been following Christ for some time now cool you still don't have to date them no you don't have to date them but I think I think that if

Lydiayou're going to look at that woman and and judge her for her past that is very hypocritical because everyone struggles was sent before especially before they came to Christ so cool but you don't that doesn't mean I'm not I never said

Lydiathat he should be required to no you don't you shouldn't be required to stay with her but I think that it could be a s in itself to judge her on her past it depends on the nature if you're leaving

Lydiaher because you're concerned that she's going to continue this or just because you're worried of the impact it'll have on your marriage yeah shorter than you I mean I guess I don't know you didn't

Brian Atlasseem very uh you didn't seem very enthusiastic about that he's six foot in the eyes of Christ he's 10 out of 10 right there in yeah that's I like that that's good one okay well um the body

Brian Atlascount thing we had Stiffler here we're GNA have Madison start on this stiffmeister ask the ladies their body count starting with Madison eight and then we're going to go

Kylieto you and go around go ahead seven six 7 8 I Feel Like a Woman shouldn't reveal their body count to the world I feel like it is something for your partner to know and I feel like if it's somebody

Kyliethat's going to be your partner it's somebody that you've talked to about your life experiences MD keep an eye on her talk to about your life experiences and like what you've been through and how many partners you have like who

Kylieyou've dated and that's fine and that communicated it's communicated and it's what was your position on the body count that it doesn't matter or does I don't

Kyliethink it matters oh so then why the hesitance to share it if it doesn't matter well I mean I don't think it matters for the person like you're dating right do you want to give us a

Kylierange if you don't want to give us an exact number range sure it's under it's between 10 and

Brian Atlas20 zero all right what about Matt what about you oh was only for the ladies well oh guess we don't have to answer guess we don't have to answer but I will

Unknownsay multiply by three and that's the real number you said eight yeah yes yo chat is that what you said on the last episode you were

Brian Atlason I mean pretty sure yeah anybody any any guys she's been on an episode

Brian Atlasbefore can somebody uh do a little investigating into the previous episode search the body count question chat uh those of you maybe on my in in my

Brian AtlasInstagram chat you can let me know if I'm pretty sure it was the same because I have pretty pretty sure yeah go for to prove me

Brian Atlaswrong um I know uh wait what's her name hold on where's where's the home girl Joselyn what's her name Joselyn do you know her

Brian AtlasMaddie wait what's her name [ __ ] who's JN Josie oh josanne Josie she's always Josie if you're in the chat bro Josie just tell me tell me the Deets do a

Madisonlittle investigating okay I need let's finally get into here I'm going to read this chat Matt or Maddie sometimes I see some crazy things that only come from

Madisonyou my fellow Americans trend on Tik Tok with people justifying Osama bin how do you pronounce his last name Laden Laden a girl saying that it is God's desire

Madisonfor her to do o and Elizabeth Warren saying that she was a Native American word rafhael word oh here we go Jingleheimer donated

TTS Donation Reader$100 wrong do your research faith is first then works also looking at a woman with lust being adultery is when a man desires to take a married woman or the

Lydiaman is married and desires another woman mhm thank you Jingleheimer the faith is first then works is what I was what's trying to actually say is that like you can't do anything good without God and

Lydiathen once you're following God then you can do good works it doesn't mean that you're you can never do enough to like make yourself worthy of going to heaven without God saving you so sure wait so

Nalalike if Hitler had like one year before he died and this one year he was a devouted Christian and like was doing everything open the door everything to like what you would want to do does that

Lydiamean he's going to go to Heaven yeah if he if he accepts Christ then all of his sin has been washed clean he now has hope in Jesus and um he's able to go to heaven and I I think it's it's very

Lydiaevident throughout the Bible that no matter what we do good or bad it we're all equally evil and deserving of is that what the Bible says we're all equally sinful all the Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the

Lydiaglory of God it doesn't say some people it's not making a measure but there are some sins that are are worse and that are punished yeah that yeah the Bible is very clear and I've said that that some

Brian Atlassins should be punished more severely can I ask you a question what's worse jaywalking or genocide genocide and I've said that very clearly that that sin is

Lydiamore evil but it doesn't mean that you're a better person because you're the jaywalker and the other person is the person yes it does J AB we're all equal

Brian Atlaswe're all equally worthy of Eternal someu who's like uh is this the actual like ecclesiastical biblical theological position on this I would pull up some

Lydiascripture but you I've heard people argue this before because I've asked the same point about Jeffrey dmer he accept Christ at the end of his life and it shouldn't be something that's like deterring you like it shouldn't be something where like oh my gosh Christians are terrible we think they're

Lydiaall evil no this should be a thing of hope that if God can save someone as evil as as Hitler then anyone can be saved and so it's not meant to be something like like oh Christians are so crazy it's supposed to can I be honest

Matthew Gallagherit seems a little uh like I don't know it's not really that cool that Hitler could do all that stuff and then we could just both say the same prayer and then all of a sudden we're well it's not

Lydiajust about saying a prayer like if I if if someone who uh just wants to get to heaven says a prayer just to get to heaven that is literally the definition of like being saved if their intention is just 316 it's like it's in the Bible

Matthew Gallagherfor whoever believes in him shall not perish but if you're not actually in God and you're just saying okay I'm going to be I'm not saying I'm not saying that they don't believe they do believe in what they're saying they say the same you know 10 words hold on but couldn't

Brian Atlasokay let's REM remove religion from this let's look at evil as a SE like from a secular perspective right so then we're like a legalistic more so kind of sure I

Brian Atlasguess from a legalist perspective then yeah obviously Hitler is more this conversation is ridiculous okay going to Julie here I'm getting into my pre-show notes uh you said you've never been on a

Juliedate outside of a relationship I've i' don't I never had like a dating apps or anything you've never had dating app no I sorry I had Tinder like way before I mean twitch is

Julieapparently your dating app I I had a Tinder before uh my relationship that was 5 years but I never like met up with anyone never no not even like a casual no I have pretty

Brian Atlasbad anxiety so I'm there's no way I'm leaving my house okay but okay you're 25 right and you you've never been on a first

Lydiadate okay all right I never really went on like a traditional first date either Actually I don't even really know how that would work out you'd be late I

Brian Atlaswould not we were early yeah all right here we have Kylie here right Kylie yeah Kylie okay getting into we're getting into your [ __ ] now here we

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