Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! HEATED DEBATE With Feminists! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #172

Date: 2024-06-24

Duration: 8h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCharlie Kirk >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_03Shai / Imogen (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_06Serena(guest)

SPEAKER_09Charlie Kirk(guest)

SPEAKER_11TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_14Multiple Guests (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroCharlie Kirk introduction — announces himself as Erica's husband, founder of Turning Point USA, 30yo, 2 kids under 2, book promo week.

“I am Charlie I'm Erica's husband and uh father of two we just had a new baby uh so we have two under two”

Key MomentCharlie Kirk explains three waves of feminism to panel (suffrage, Gloria Steinem/workforce, third wave = any inequity is wrong).

“first wave feminism would be like the Equal Rights Amendment...second wave feminism was like Gloria Steinem...third wave feminism is that any inequity that we see between men or women is inherently wrong”

ControversyHeated debate: should women be drafted into military? Charlie argues men should protect women; panel debates equality vs. protection.

“I would say to reach optimal results if we're speaking on war then yes we should Shield women from the draft”

Key MomentCharlie Kirk describes encountering a Grizzly bear in the wild during Man vs. Bear debate segment.

“I've seen a grizzly bear up close and personal and I've lived right only them that is not fun you don't want to see a grizzly bear”

OtherCharlie Kirk departs the show at ~222 minutes after book promo and panel debate.

“He's a brave and decent man he's a pioneer he's a Pioneer thank you for coming Charlie”

IntroAndrew Wilson joins the show mid-episode, introduces himself as host of The Crucible and political analyst.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible I'm a political analyst”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson interrogates Amy about her 18-year polyamorous dating arrangement, challenging the timeline math and motivations.

“I'm just trying to figure out why how long you were actually with these two guys”

QuoteLeah reveals ex-boyfriend prostituted himself for meth — Brian calls it 'winning the Whatever podcast'.

“he would prostitute himself for math oh that's horrible...he would to men to men”

ControversyAndrew Wilson confronts Imogen about choosing OnlyFans over her Catholic mother's wishes; extended exchange about trusting parental guidance.

“your mom says don't do this...why don't you trust her wisdom”

QuoteAndrew Wilson to Imogen: 'You are one of the most dishonest trolls, you're even bad at trolling.'

“you are one dishonest trolls you're even bad at trolling you're even bad at that”

OtherBody count round: Shai claims 'off the scales, lost count at like 80, past 80'. Imogen claims 0 (disputed by Andrew and audience).

“my body count is off the scales I don't even know I lost count at like 80”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

All 9 female guests and Charlie Kirk introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Followed by relationship status round.

Feminist clip reaction — liberal women wanting traditional men

Brian plays viral clip of liberal woman lamenting that masculine men who provide tend to be conservative. Panel reacts.

Who pays on first date; feminism definitions

Discussion of first date payment norms. Charlie Kirk explains three waves of feminism. Panel debates whether they identify as feminists.

Women in military draft debate

Debate whether women should be subject to military conscription (Selective Service). Charlie Kirk argues men should always pay and shields women from war. Panel offers varied views. Heather makes uterus/repopulation argument.

Birth control, capitalism, wage gap

Brian's previous comments about hormonal birth control affecting women's brains discussed. Charlie expands on it. Discussion of gender wage gap, capitalist systems, and equal pay for equal work.

Man vs. Bear debate

Classic viral debate: would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or a random bear? Shai chooses bear; most others choose man. Charlie Kirk's perspective on bear vs. man.

Would you date a conservative; religious men

Panel discusses whether they would date a conservative or Trumpy man. Charlie recommends religious men. Discussion of finding good men and Catholic faith.

Charlie Kirk departs; Andrew Wilson joins; ratings round

Charlie Kirk leaves at ~222 min. Brief transition, ratings round conducted, Andrew Wilson (The Crucible) joins the panel.

Andrew Wilson debates Amy about polyamorous arrangement

Andrew Wilson interrogates Amy about her 18-year concurrent relationship arrangement with two men, questioning the timeline and motivations.

Extended panel discussions — dating, relationships, social topics

Various topics including dating apps, body counts, OnlyFans, feminism continued. Multiple TTS rating rounds throughout.

Andrew Wilson vs. Australian OnlyFans guests; body counts

Andrew Wilson confronts Imogen about Catholic upbringing vs. OnlyFans career. Questions why she won't trust her mother's advice. Heated back-and-forth. Body count round: Shai claims 80+, Imogen claims 0 (disputed).

End of show roast, wrap-up

Roast section. Andrew Wilson and Shai/Imogen trade insults. Show wraps. Announcement of next stream.

Transcript

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Andrew Wilsonbeard back but what they actually look like lasts forever what the well I mean does like lash extensions count as makeup yes you have to take all that off I'll shave the beard you got to

Andrew Wilsontake off all the extensions all the eyelashes all the makeup you take all that off get right back on camera so everybody can see what you actually look like see the thing is this is is an interesting thing right so I was talking

Andrew Wilsonwith my wife who was recently on whatever and I I I would tell her I would come home and I would be baffled I would say I go back and I watch these videos and these chicks don't actually look anything like this when I'm in front of them what the hell is and she

Andrew Wilsonwas like what are you talking about till she win herself and she was like you're right they don't like imagine what they would look like without all of that makeup and all that on um it's almost like a different person so I'm happy to do it I'm happy I'll I'll

Andrew Wilsonliterally go upstairs right now I'll shave this whole thing off right down to the bear if you guys also do the same exact

Andrew Wilsonthing and by the way by the way we can make a deciding factor here here I can bribe Brian somebody send in a champagne prop and then he'll do it you know my weakness Andrew I know

Andrew Wilsonyour weakness right send in the champagne pop and then if all of all of them already agreed we'll do this my so to be clear we get a champagne pop andw will shave his beard you'll do it

Andrew Wilsonyou'll do it you'll do it yes got make how many makeup I might not have enough all of them will do it they all agreed except for the pilot right she was the one but we'll leave her out fine that's

Brian Atlasfair I got five I got five makeup lights so we would do we would do you you you she doesn't want to do it uh and I guess you too yeah we'll do I mean just cuz

Andrew Wilsonthat's the only one I mean all of them said yes so we get a champagne pop all of them minus the pilot said yes let's do I got baby what is the I got baby wipes what is that maybe those will

Brian Atlaswork anyways we'll see we'll come back to it if anybody wants to send one in we'll come back to it I'll read a couple chats here we have actually Maddie can you read these the Australian girls are so hot I

Multiple Guests (mixed)think their names are Amy and Shai ask them what their type is by the way Andrew you're an ick Andrew you're an ick they're they're giving the ick okay I mean that's that's fair okay there it

Shai / Imogen (mixed)is um what what's your what are your guys' types um my type is tall muscular

Shai / Imogen (mixed)tattooed mean I like nasty men um and I also like yeah that's about it what about you same wait hold on we still

Brian Atlasthink that like so basically you can everyone's a 10 out of 10 but that's our preferred typ but that's like apple top I wait because I was going to you said tall and muscular that has a lot to do

Brian Atlaswith your physical appearance I thought everybody's kind of everyone's a 10 be fact but look you would have a preferred top wouldn't you do you know so that that means

Brian Atlasyou're creating a hierarchy someone can still be a to no but okay let's look at binary right so if we do binary one or zero okay

Brian Atlasso tall muscular dude short obese dude um one's a yes one's a no I just want but you're creating a hierarchy

Shai / Imogen (mixed)okay okay okay any of them but I want the meanest I want the main one yeah the criminals the mean one I like the main ones yeah criminals yeah you like

Multiple Guests (mixed)criminals yeah I love criminals uh maybe do we get into that um you what do you mean when you say you like criminals bad boys like felons or huh I

Multiple Guests (mixed)said like felons or yeah that like people who commit murder oh maybe not that far not that far just like gun charges and like the small that's

Shai / Imogen (mixed)right what about scammers um yeah I like scammers too you guys relate what you relate well to the

Brian Atlaslawyer I mean no I was only joking so you're okay you said you guys are attracted to criminals like what kind of crimes then would they' have committed

Brian Atlaswell I actually haven't dated anyone so you find them attractive though what kind of crimes would they have committed um probably

Shai / Imogen (mixed)like I don't know I I don't know but not as far as murder or rape or anything like that nothing like that but I think like maybe I don't know maybe just

Multiple Guests (mixed)offense just a what defense within themselves their def their crime is defense I don't know yeah they have that a battery charge like they assault

Multiple Guests (mixed)somebody because out of Defense yeah that wouldn't if it it wouldn't be a crime if it was it wouldn't be a crime if it was in self-defense I they could still be put into jail for at least a few days before they might well they

Shai / Imogen (mixed)might be arrested but in terms of the pr nothing to do nothing to do with hurting anybody or anything like that what about like col so drugs is it drugs drug drugs they're hot they always hot what about people who def they always got the money to

Multiple Guests (mixed)like look after them about people who defraud elderly out of their money oh my God wa was that they defraud the elderly out of their money was that what is Elder Financial abuse like they steal money from old

Shai / Imogen (mixed)people B oh that's me that'se nah n it's not an immediate no you have to think about definely nothing nothing to do with like robbery or anything like that but drug dealers are hot they've always been hot okay

Brian Atlasdrug dealers cool what if they sell drugs to Children um well honestly still fine with it well this was a kid's decision like an

Shai / Imogen (mixed)11-year-old well it's the kid's decision well I mean that's not attractive what do you mean he's a drug dealer yeah I know he's a drug dealer but like drug dealer to an extent like

Shai / Imogen (mixed)okay there's limit you know like from like 18 above at least why would I why would I be okay with him selling drugs to like 11y old you think somebody who's inclined to be a drug dealer is going to make that I mean sure

Brian Atlasthere might be some drug dealers that make that uh distinguishment is that a word disting I think it is should be so M uh sure but there's

Shai / Imogen (mixed)probably drug dealers who have no qualms with selling to uh like high schoolers for example no I don't agree with that but I honestly if I had to describe one I'd

Shai / Imogen (mixed)probably say Pablo Escobar yeah didn't he murdered people what Pablo Escobar murdered people oh well maybe not that not that part

Shai / Imogen (mixed)obviously I'm talking about the drugs I'm talking about the drugs where they've all got tunnels that's hot all right she wants the cool stuff yeah but I didn't I don't even do drugs myself I just find it hot that they sell it all

Brian Atlasright detective he says it's the equivalent of a man walking around with a banana stuffed in his pants okay true true it's also look I think it's also

Brian Atlaswould be the equivalent of a guy who had like inserts in his shoes that made him like three or four inches taller or a guy who just lies about being 6 in or 6

Brian Atlasin 6 feet 6 ft excuse me on these dating apps they'll they'll actually be 5'9 [Music] 510 can you uh

Brian Atlasyeah thank you thank you thank you sorry guys we have uh birth control alarm go off there oh one sec guys I need to pull up my notes on this uh I would say that

Brian Atlaslike wearing makeup is the functional equivalent of a guy who works at McDonald's saying he's an attorney that's not no at all that that's like the lally not at all it's literally

Multiple Guests (mixed)literally figuratively actually figuratively the equivalent figuratively the equivalent you're confusing catfishing with being a

Brian Atlassociopathic liar like wearing makeup doesn't make you as sociopath have consequences the same way that lie would so do you guys agree that men are primarily visual in terms of what

Multiple Guests (mixed)they're attracted to Sure 100% and can we manipulate the visual for men to like us more sure some women do more than others but yeah some women wear minimal makeup a lot it would I don't think it

Brian Atlaswould be criminal for a man to lie and say he's an attorney in the dating context I think that's literally no no no okay so if he that can him if he no no if he was actually practicing law yes

Multiple Guests (mixed)that would be illegal I'm pretty sure he wouldn't but just telling some chick yeah I'm a lawyer I think it's wrong it's not illegal okay it's wrong for sure it's Mor the moral equivalent of wearing makeup for a woman I didn't say

Brian Atlasmoral equivalent I said in terms of impact oh oh no no no okay you're welcome to disagree

Brian Atlasyeah uh but uh you know what you're right it's not the equivalent makeup has a way bigger impact than some dude lying about his job man way big no makeup makeup will

Brian Atlasmake a guy who otherwise maybe wouldn't be as attracted to you or attracted to you at all versus the lawyer lie might help out a little bit you know what I mean and mess him up in the long run

Multiple Guests (mixed)mess what do you mean if he wants a relationship with her what if he's just trying to hit oh great what if the woman's just trying to hit so she wears makeup you only have to see that for one night do that do most women want that

Brian Atlasjust trying to hit hypotheticals hypotheticals hypotheticals anyways I got to move things on thank you uh detective there appreciate it you almost hypothetical is hypocritical hypothetical is

Multiple Guests (mixed)hypocritical Manny can you read this training the suits in the back for the draft so they can vote do the ladies know what western feminism is Eastern Fe feminism was not about voting or

Multiple Guests (mixed)property rights comrade Drew can you Enlighten who's Drew oh Andrew I think that was for you Andrew

Andrew Wilsonno I don't I don't know what he means by Eastern feminism they're they're to my to my knowledge when I say feminism uh we're talking about specifically the rejection of patriarchal systems if

Andrew Wilsonyou're saying Eastern feminism I think we're talking about and you're saying it's something different than that than we're talking about two things which aren't alike at all so I wouldn't even call them

Brian Atlasfeminism okay thank you Andrew uh I have a question for Maddie and then you two uh would you do you I already know what you're going to

Multiple Guests (mixed)say you should have just let me answer the question before you or finishing it I've never dated an Asian guy know that's DN that's racist just kidding uh

Multiple Guests (mixed)did you date what you date an Asian guy uh I've dated a Filipino guy before yeah that counts yeah and you're dating a Asian yeah yeah what do you girls think about

Brian AtlasAsian women who refuse I don't refuse to dat okay fine fine fine what do you think about Asian women who refuse to date Asian men awesome

Andrew WilsonI mean she just said she just prefers so that's her no but I'm I'm sorry Brian he did clarify on the Super Chat um he was talking about Bolshevik feminism my bad

Brian Atlasokay um so but the question still stands what do you think about Asian women who refuse to date Asian men any thoughts

Multiple Guests (mixed)there uh I mean personally like I'm not super attracted to to Asian people they have to be like a specific type of Asian

Multiple Guests (mixed)yeah like a specific look I guess like Vietnamese guys no like not like a particular like like race or ethnicity but you only date like how is it Mong

Brian Atlashow do you say it yeah you only dat the Mong no just like if I think you're more like if you're like as sorry sry sorry go ahead go ahead goad like if you're Asian and I think

Multiple Guests (mixed)you're cute like it doesn't have to do if you're like Korean Chinese or whatever I just think you're cute okay yeah but also like I'm I think I'm more particular on the type of Asian guys

Brian Atlasthat I think are cute the type of you and you don't mean like different type of you just mean like type of who who they are as a person or do you mean like

Multiple Guests (mixed)type of Asian like or type of Asian not type of Asian cuz I don't like necessarily have a type or I wouldn't say I like I'm drawn to certain Asian

Multiple Guests (mixed)people it's just like if I think you're attractive then I think you're attractive mhm what about you your boyfriend is is he Chinese Korean Vietnamese he's Chinese and

Brian AtlasPortuguese Chinese and Portuguese okay but what do you think about the women who refuse Asian women who refuse to date Asian men I mean that's their choice okay that's fine yeah think

Brian Atlasthey're really racist what's that I think they're really racist you think they're racist Maddie you think they're race Traders yeah sure but I thought you've never okay you're

Brian Atlaswrong oh my bad okay cool you just assume that all right cool moving on so we have oh Andrew did you want to address the chat go ahead

Andrew Wilsonoh oh yeah I'm sorry uh so so when he was when he was referencing Eastern feminism he was talking about the distinction between Western feminists wanting like land Liberation and Eastern

Andrew Wilsonfeminists being against that they were they're two different things but when I'm talking about feminism specifically uh in the case of this panel I'm talking about a rejection of patriarchal systems

Brian Atlasor modern feminism okay moving on in my preure notes Here going to Amy so Amy you're a pilot a

Multiple Guests (mixed)model and a high high-end companion uh so do you you consider yourself a sex worker so it's a funny thing according to the sex work Community I'm

Multiple Guests (mixed)not uh totally one but according to the general public I am so I guess it depends who you ask can I have you just scoot your mic to the edge of the table like that corner perfect thank you thank you when

Multiple Guests (mixed)you say the uh the general public I'm assuming that you mean more people when you say general public I mean I certainly haven't talked to anybody but I sort of uh yeah I date I am only

Multiple Guests (mixed)attracted to wealthy generous men who provide for me that's all I've ever dated in my entire life it's all I ever would I'd rather be single than split bills um so yeah that is how I like to

Multiple Guests (mixed)live but um like like right like escort type of women have told me that I don't qualify as one so I'm not sure why do you not consider yourself an escort no

Multiple Guests (mixed)they tell me that I don't qualify CU I don't do the same stuff and live the same way but I am I very much think sex work should be decriminalized and I I

Multiple Guests (mixed)think um even if you hate it the way we handle it in America is harmful and but that's a different discussion so um well I'm happy to get into that discussion

Andrew Wilsonbut before we do um you you are I'm I'm just curious what are you bringing to the table besides your body to these men who are taking care of you you'd have to ask them I'm asking you I don't know

Multiple Guests (mixed)you'd have to ask them they're the ones who want to date me so from your perspective what do you bring me so what does that mean I mean you'd have to ask someone who loves me why they love me I'm not a mind

Andrew Wilsonreader well I'm not asking you to be a mind reader I'm just asking you're you are on the other end of this relationship I assume you know what you're bring to the table of the relationship right somebody loves me then and I love them then I keep dating

Andrew Wilsonthem I don't really worry about the why so you don't know what you bring to the table I don't really give it that much consideration well if you had to guess if you had to take the attributes you think they're after the most what would

SPEAKER_05you say they were don't know I'm not a mind Raider you've never even asked never nope you've never asked why do you love me no why would I ask that you never ask why do you like me no that's an you

Andrew Wilsonnever ask what of the things about me that you you adore you never ask any of those questions I have not so then essentially you're just giving them sex and in the exchange they giving you

Andrew Wilsonmoney and that's it hopefully not well then what else is there I don't know you'd have to ask them I mean if you don't know then I I

Andrew Wilsonmean I'm asking you you're on the other end of the relationship that's that's a that's kind of an odd answer right so if somebody were to say what do you bring to the table between you and your wife you say well you can ask my wife if they

Andrew Wilsonsay well but I'm asking you what do you think you bring to the table I think I would have pretty good answers for what I think I bring to the table you don't have any no not for you what does that

Andrew Wilsonmean not for me does that mean you have answers for somebody else who's not me no no you don't have those either so you just don't have any answers at all correct

Brian Atlasokay very good faith by the way I'm a little confused though because so you said you're a high-end companion um but you don't just so I have this correct you don't consider

Multiple Guests (mixed)yourself an escort I sort of thought it was similar with very much longer relationships but but in the in the sense that I like men who provide for me so I thought I was

Multiple Guests (mixed)kind of with extremely long and deep relationships but um but people in my industry say that I'm not so yeah so I don't know what you would call me um I think about it a lot CU so you have a a

Brian Atlaswebsite it says world's most exclusive model all of that was written by my lawyers for SEO I've never actually read it so I don't know what it says oh okay um so I mean if a guy contacted you and

Brian Atlaswanted to go on a date with you uh aside from I guess paying for the meal I mean would you charge him for your time to

Multiple Guests (mixed)like go on the date I would never date a guy who didn't provide enough for the vacation the outfit the Wardrobe everything else too for a first date I

Brian Atlasmean yeah I yeah so like you a new guy comes into the picture he's asking you out for the first time I guess what does he have to do for the date to actually occur it's been years but things I've

Brian Atlasgot to like him a lot I've got to want to and yes he has to be very generous yeah so when you say very generous though I'm looking for something a little more concrete like so you mentioned like wardrobe he has to pay for clothes even on like first time

Multiple Guests (mixed)eating he has to pay for your clothes it depends what the plans are I mean again uh he's taking you a nice steak dinner in uh New York yeah I'm going to expect an outfit I'm going to expect shop like

Multiple Guests (mixed)usually you know they send you to their personal shopper and then the car picks you up at 7:30 and you know all the standard stuff it's pretty normal where I live well can I ask this maybe a different way let us assume for a second

Andrew Wilsonthat you met an attracted man in an age bracket that you thought was fantastic and uh he said listen I want our relationship to be purely material I just want to have sex with you and in

Andrew Wilsonexchange for that I'm going to take care of whatever it is your material needs are um you wouldn't date him no that's vulgar and the answer would be no well

Andrew Wilsonwhy is it vulgar you said purely material yeah it's purely material yeah that's not for me so then there's something additional to the material that is valuable

Multiple Guests (mixed)right yeah so what are those things about you that are additional to the material that are valuable for me to agree to go out with him I've got to like him and hopefully you like him all that's

Andrew Wilsonestablished but if the material itself is not the thing if there's additions to that from your perspective what are those additional things of about you other than your body the material that

Multiple Guests (mixed)you think they're interested in I don't know if he's asking me out I assume he's interested I'm more concerned with whether I want him or Not by the way Andrew I sent you a text if you could check it really quick okay um wrinkley gold digger thanks

Brian Atlasy I'm so I'm a little confused though um maybe it's just a question of of

Brian Atlasdefinitions here uh sorry I'm trying to get my notes pulled up but they're not coming um I mean so you you don't have

Brian Atlasclients it's been years so did you you used to then like you don't are you I don't want to put words in your mouth but did you you did you use to escort I

Multiple Guests (mixed)thought that was sort of similar but I've been told by that escort community that that is not what I am okay um okay

Brian Atlasso there there's no like let's say you go on a first date with a guy is he ever just giving like here's a thousand bucks no that'd be a bit reductionist for me I'd I'd say no to

Brian Atlasthat but you've never like you've never been on a first date where there was like a I'm not talking sex here I'm just talking like going out on the date where he just gave you like here's 5,000 bucks here's a th000 bucks I've had men send

Andrew Wilsonme more than that and never meet me tons of them so all all things happen okay um I have one uh one quick followup I was just curious about um I have a a

Andrew Wilsonclose friend of mine he's in the uh the chat on my end right now uh who's a pilot and he was just wondering if he could walk us through how you land a plane what kind of

Multiple Guests (mixed)plane um any kind of plane well they differ the over thegate speed is different based on type of aircraft just pick one yeah pick whatever one piston turbo prop jet like whichever one you

Multiple Guests (mixed)want whichever one well so you you set up 45 to the downwind you set up turn base turn final there's things that happen during that and then you touch down Wheels first then set the nose down

Andrew Wilsonthere's yeah but I mean let's pretend pretend for a second I'm on a plane whatever plane you pick and I'm like I'm the passenger hang on I'm the passenger right and and I have to land This Plane because the pilot like had a heart

Multiple Guests (mixed)attack and he died then you're walking me through it what's the first thing I do first thing you're going to you're going to need to find where the push to talk is declare Mayday they're going to give you Progressive instructions you might be able to land it it'd be tough

Multiple Guests (mixed)but yeah first first you're going to need to talk to to walk through mayday mayday I the plane's going down what do I do what's the next step you're going to have to talk to tower all this is going to come at you pretty fast faster in turbine than it is in piston um but it depends on the type type of aircraft

Andrew Wilsonyou're in if you have any other flight crew I would doesn't matter what it is it does matter it matters a lot know it matters a lot okay whichever pick one doesn't matter which one well the reason it matters a lot is because every all

Multiple Guests (mixed)the variables change dep depending on make so let's pick one let's pick any of them whichever one you want pick one okay so like I said are you in the pattern are you at 10 miles out on Final Approach are you talking to Center are you talking to I don't know any of this

Andrew WilsonI don't I'm telling you how you f I'm just guy in a plane trying to land it I'm terrified what do I do a bunch of stuff and you're going to need Progressive instructions to try to live okay so what do I do what's the first

Multiple Guests (mixed)step it depends where you are so is there retractable gear is there is the gear not retractable um the gear is retractable okay so it's at a certain point it's after you 45 to

Multiple Guests (mixed)the downwind before you turn Basse you're going to have to put the gear down and uh you're going to declare mday so they're going to give you the walk through it step by don't listen if you want me to talk you listen when I talk you listen Andrew are you are you thinking that she's not telling the

Andrew Wilsontruth about the pilot thing I'm pretty sure this all sounds legit I'm not saying anything I'm just wondering if you can walk me cuz this pilot buddy of mine he's saying just ask walk you through how I land this plan step by step I mean it all sounds pretty

Andrew Wilsonlegitimate to me Andrew I don't know I'm not saying it's not legitimate I'm just asking the question every time I tell you how to fly a plane you interrupt me though when I speak you listen Andrew okay I'm listening great so first you're going to have to talk to people

Multiple Guests (mixed)because you don't know how to fly a plane so you're going to have to get instructions otherwise you're going to die then you're going to get a bunch of things to do in series there's speeds you need to be at there's pitches there's attitudes you need to be at if you can get them done fast enough before dying you might get it down the ground

Multiple Guests (mixed)it ain't going to be pretty they're going to the foam and the ambulances out they're going to give you the runway which is what Mayday does if you're further out than that you have more time to set it up but it depends where you are how close you are they're probably going to extend your downwind you know

Multiple Guests (mixed)give you lots of time to try to save your own life and then after you land you know if it it depends if it has like reverse thrusters or brakes or what the what the plane has they're all different kind of like cars and so you're going to

Multiple Guests (mixed)have to slow down and taxi off if you're not dead by then so uh you know there's there's a there's a procedure they'll walk you through as quick as they they can and you'll try to live so there you

Brian Atlasgo Andrew I don't doubt her bonafides here so I mean what's what's the uh well I mean I I I I'm just going to be completely honest here I I don't feel

Andrew Wilsonlike she said anything I feel like if I was going to explain to a person in a video game how you play a video game I'd be like press X then y then X then y then this then that right I'm just

Andrew Wilsonwondering if you could just walk me through step by step whatever scenario you come up with you can come up with whatever scenario you want in whatever demographic you want in whatever City you want that I'm going down over and

Andrew Wilsonhow you would instruct a person to land a plane that's all why is this man so mean to me i' have done nothing to him I am not mean to you I'm just curious I'm finished talking to you

Brian Atlasokay hold on wait oh there's a it's too late now oh good all right there you go folks uh you know we're talking about Aviation here it's the welcome to the whatever

Brian AtlasAviation podcast uh really culating you know uh I me personally I I'm not a big fan of flying no offense I'm get

Brian Atlasheadaches the altitude hor altitude anyways all right we just learned how to freaking land a plane thank you um I CU like anyways going back to this so I saw a clip on your Instagram like you were

Brian Atlason another podcast and they were asking you like something about money and you're saying well I got like 20K from this guy and 30k from this guy and but were the these were like men you were dating over the period of time or even some I think you said uh some men you

Multiple Guests (mixed)weren't you haven't even met in person they're just sending you money yeah that happens a lot it's weird but that does happen and like how how do they get like they slide to the DMS or yeah or um your website or your socials or your YouTube

Brian Atlasyou know all the stuff and they want to give you money it's interesting of the guys who you've never met in person what's the biggest amount that a

Multiple Guests (mixed)dude sent you that that you never met him he's just like I love you Amy here's some money it's weird right um there you know about finom their fin Subs this is their thing oh you're doing like the

Multiple Guests (mixed)finom thing not formally but it happens anyway I guess um okay and it's super weird they'll send you the biggest I got to think it's a lot it's a healthy six figures six like in one transaction yes

Brian Atlassome dude sent you like a bit like two Bitcoin or some any Bitcoin you ever received crypto no no crypto no I wouldn't be against it but no it was you're open Toto Fiat and half the government got half of it cuz it's

Multiple Guests (mixed)income oh gift you're welcome State and feds so no it's income right I thought if you write it as do you know any like the gift exemption I think this year is

Brian Atlaslike 12 or 14 Grand I'd have to look up with the IRS so it's more than that I don't mess with tax fraud I'm afraid of the government fair enough do you know like gay dudes that like just send people money without meeting them right

Multiple Guests (mixed)cuz I'll I'll take some a couple bucks you should sir throw me a few few dollars you should got to as long as I don't have to meet them like I that's kind of what you're getting right

Brian Atlasnow with the wait holy that's kind of true very good there's a couple women there's a couple women ladies fans though I need a couple ladies to throw through a couple ttss okay how do you

Brian Atlasknow it's not ladies behind the screen there's some we get some it's just the names beaten cheeks probably a dude probably a guy but uh okay so also

Brian AtlasI don't know if I can you in your pre-show messages you said you previously worked in two industries are we at Liberty to mention those after undergrad I did my undergrad at Cal and I worked in biotech okay for a couple

Multiple Guests (mixed)years and then I did an MBA in LA and I worked in oil okay gotcha yo thank you AB Che appreciate it like uh oil what when you say you work I was in the investor relations of a small oil that

Brian Atlaswe took public and sold gotcha uh huh wait question really quick going back to the whole like dude sending you money and stuff what about like including the guys you've met what's the biggest like one-time transaction that you've gotten

Brian Atlasfrom a dude I mean the men that I've dated for years yeah it's been tons over the years I haven't counted wait can you tell us like from from uh total collectively

Brian Atlasfrom one the from one guy what's the most Collective I don't know like seven figures you think oh sure any eight figures or no no seven figures though yeah probably not eight but seven yes mid or low I don't

Brian AtlasI've got to I can get back to you on it get back to me okay uh and then total total all men total if you had to say how much you've

Brian Atlasmade total from Again State and fed's got half of it but let's say pre pre-tax it's a lot eight figures to Total yeah nine figures or probably not

Brian Atlasn that that'd be nice I would not be here I'd be on an you'd have to send me a couple couple bucks there okay i' have a bigger plane um so you said that on some issues you're a bit more liberal oh we should have got into this while Charlie was here in any case you said

Brian Atlassome issues you're perhaps a bit more liberal so like abortion labor rights uh on others like marriage and family you're a bit more maybe more traditional yeah the I think most people

Multiple Guests (mixed)Peg me as traditional because I like men to provide and women to stay feminine and all that um but I don't have any problem with people who don't want that uh again I like people to live the way they want I'm kind of a Libertarian in

Multiple Guests (mixed)that way and then when I said about abortion rights I think abortion is a tragedy I'd like to see Zero of it but I just don't think like many other things I don't think we can criminalize our way out of it so that's why I said abortion

Brian Atlasrights not because I sort of Love abortion I think it's a tragedy sure um I I perhaps want to offer a little push back here I mean you said you're a little bit on the more traditional side with marriage and family maybe this is

Brian Atlaslike on the macro level you view you do acknowledge that marriage family that's best for society but in your individual case you said that like you're currently you've been in like two long-term

Brian Atlasrelationships for 18 years I mean I'm assuming you don't acknowledge like those aren't that's not a traditional Dynamic yeah I'm not married to either of them right and so I guess how do you kind of

Multiple Guests (mixed)reconcile that the whole tradition thing but you're dating iect that's why I said some things I feel I mean I don't know what what would you call it feminist if I

Multiple Guests (mixed)like men to provide I wouldn't call it feminist so traditional roles though I enjoy my femininity I I do some things that are sort of masculine right I shoot guns and fly planes and that's kind of

Multiple Guests (mixed)ascribed to men so um but you're correct I'm not married that's for some reasons I'm not going to discuss on this show but um oh okay uh but I'm not anti marriage I think if people want get married they should what

Multiple Guests (mixed)kind of what kind of guns do you like to shoot uh I used to own a Glock 17 I don't I don't own that right now um but I go to Tios segna sometimes in Manhattan if you behave better you can come it's a private club if you're ever

Andrew Wilsonin Manhattan yeah Andrew if you behave better she'll take you shooting with her Andrew's a gun instructor by the way you can't go to ter without me I'm a gun enthusiast myself so I was just curious

Multiple Guests (mixed)what type of guns you like to shoot yeah I mean I've shot all kinds so you know Manhattan the the gun ranges limit you to a 22 which really sucks except for Tios segno because it's private but um you can go over to New Jersey and shoot cooler stuff so but I've shot you know I

Multiple Guests (mixed)used to love to go to Oak Tree when I lived here in Southern California it's a great gun range um north of the city and uh and you can shoot all kinds of stuff they have ski trap clay pistol

Multiple Guests (mixed)everything what's your do have you ever shot trap badly yes yeah what's your uh what's your favorite trap shotgun they give you a series of rifles and I don't know much about rifles so I wouldn't be able to tell you what brand they were I

Multiple Guests (mixed)mean you're not shooting trap with a rifle right uh the thing that goes well the what's it called a squirrel that goes across the ground and the thing that shoots in the air that's not trap ski no that's ski but you're not going

Multiple Guests (mixed)to do that with a rifle uh I don't know what is that long gun thing that they give you at Oak Tree I don't know what it is then yeah I I don't know either okay what it was yeah fair enough you

Brian Atlasalso said I was just curious you also said that you are a you mentioned this during earlier with Charlie Kirk an unabashed gold digger you like men to

Brian Atlasprotect and provide um do you think women should all women should be unabashed gold diggers absolutely not okay I don't think all women should do

Multiple Guests (mixed)anything I say to do okay that's fair that's fair uh have you always been an unabashed gold like even at like 18 19 or did you have yeah the first uh boy I

Multiple Guests (mixed)did did it at 18 yes was wealthy and did was very generous yeah it's sort of what what what I it's a call it a kink okay all right uh all right Andrew any

Andrew Wilsonthoughts there on the on the bashed gold digger thing no I was just well I'm I I don't know why it's so adversarial I'm just I'm actually just trying to kind of figure out your positions on things kind

Andrew Wilsonof what your history is that you're presenting I'm not even trying to make it aerial I'm just trying to kind of figure this out so so um but I I really can't if if every question I ask you you just kind of don't answer I I don't know

Andrew WilsonI don't I don't really know where to go from there

Andrew Wilsonhonestly you know like if I ask you honest questions about the gold digging thing are you are you going to answer them or you just going to be like well I don't know ask them like I mean obviously you have some some idea of

Andrew Wilsonwhat it is that men seeing you or wantan in you or something like this right you just kind of claim why I have no no clue I've just never thought about it in 18 years I mean does that does that even

Andrew Wilsonreally sound reasonable to you or yes it does it does okay well then I I don't I don't know what to do with that answer cool later

Andrew Wilsonokay don't like him we'll get to that in a sec um you what the hell did I do I mean it just I've really just asking you very basic I

Andrew Wilsondon't know why you're so upset with me what the hell did I do to you next you don't you don't know you just maybe it's the fa you just don't like the face it could just be the face sometimes people just are like I just

Andrew Wilsondon't like your face right it could just be that right could be who knows I don't I don't know exactly what I've done to you I've been I've been very polite I've just asked you some basic questions I might have been I mean

Andrew Wilsonunless unless you can kind of point to something that I said which was horrendously off I don't remember in our DMS Brian when I said about 17 times that I came here not to argue is he you've been arguing Andrew have you been arguing Andrew I don't

Brian Atlaseven feel like I feel like I've just asked some basic I don't feel like we've argued about anything honestly I've just asked few questions okay okay uh so you wanted to talk about

Brian Atlasaging and dating did I say that we don't have to I think you said that maybe can't remember okay but we don't have to uh and then in

Brian Atlasthe DMS since you brought that up you said you I'm trying to think if this is like disagreements you said some of the enraged stuff is hard to watch I think Life's too short to be upset

Brian Atlasonline I tend to agree with that uh you think being mean to people doesn't help the world so I don't like any of the clips where people are being cruel maybe that's it Andrew she s she saw some of

Brian Atlasyour uh cruel Clips uh but that's just me so you said you've seen some pretty cruel episodes some are a bit nasty you said you find it very cruel in

Brian AtlasRage click baity I realize that makes money but it makes you sad the juvenile rage stuff is kind of pathetic it's a show that can be so very mean and cruel the show is often very antagonistic

Brian Atlastowards a women um I just I guess I wanted to get a better sense of uh what specifically if you can articulate specifically what is

Multiple Guests (mixed)cruel uh or what you found cruel or mean or nasty I can't recall the algorithm probably showed me the most incendiary stuff cuz that's how the algorithms work

Multiple Guests (mixed)but when I tried to well I had never heard of you and the assistant connected us um and then you asked me this is Andrew Wilson right you asked me if I wanted to go on with Andrew Wilson and I told you I don't know who that is yeah

Multiple Guests (mixed)um but uh and then you asked about Charlie Kirk I also didn't know who that is now I do okay um so I watched some stuff in in before coming here and some

Multiple Guests (mixed)of it was I don't know just kind of maybe you know wasn't my cup of tea but like can you be more specific I

Multiple Guests (mixed)cannot recall it was just pretty uh I don't know like yeah click baity kind of stuff but I understand that that sells I'm you know no judgment but I guess oh

Brian Atlasfirework super like cuz in you said that you okay in the DMS you said you saw a lot of of poor young women being verbally abused uh that's I mean so I guess what

Brian Atlasspecifically did I or someone else say in this case Andrew say that you deemed verbally abusive I can't recall I'd have to go back and try to find it again what was you don't need to give it verbatim

Multiple Guests (mixed)but what was the General I do not I just I do not recall without if you had told me to save it or send it to you you'd have it so

Brian Atlasokay do you feel like Charlie Kirk was verbally abusive no I was shocked how elegant and well-mannered he was today that was lovely okay yeah he he was kind of he was kind of Shing a little bit no Andrew don't

Andrew Wilsonsay that don't say that um okay look at her she laughed she knew she was like yeah he was kind of siing a

SPEAKER_13little bit I saw you over there you know which one I'm talking to there's still there we go yeah no

Brian Atlaschance uh well again I mean I would like to get a bit more of a precise answer again like I'm sorry I don't have one for you but I can try to go back and

Brian Atlasfind it send it to you next week I don't recall right now sure we could do that we could like post show react to it I guess uh it's typically better to have

Brian Atlasthese conversations in person but uh what so I guess what constitutes verbal abuse that you know might have been

Multiple Guests (mixed)hyperbolic to use that phrase I was just typing in DMS but um I just don't think that being nasty is cute or funny or edgy or interesting I think being kind and helpful and looking for Solutions and being positive is better for

Multiple Guests (mixed)everyone involved I think I think being nasty is boring I just think it's boring so the tone is it like the tone maybe I don't and and maybe the words and maybe the attitude body

Multiple Guests (mixed)language a million things I just don't I don't think being nasty is sort of interesting well I'm kind I'm giving you

Brian Atlasthe giv you the floor to air your uh either real or perceived grievances when it comes to huh it's it's your show you're the

Multiple Guests (mixed)boss well yeah that no that's what I'm interested in talking about I like to hear people's criticisms of the show so I can potentially uh I am no one to tell you what to do this is your project and you should do

Brian Atlasas you see fit you should not do what I think you should do well I'm not I'm not seeking advice necessarily I'm seeking out what your criticisms are so that I can engage with

Multiple Guests (mixed)them yeah I think some of the stuff that popped up First on YouTube was sort of ugly and I don't know do you recall any singular again I don't remember which videos I'll have to go back and look at

Brian AtlasI don't need it verbatim but what was the General give me something here to work with just cruel you know okay but when you say cruel that has I I'm going to prod a

Multiple Guests (mixed)little bit I'd like trying to make people angry for clicks and likes and money is sort of icky right it's icky well my goal is never to try to

Multiple Guests (mixed)make somebody angry but um what's can you what generally was said just a lot of trolling type of behavior which I just

Multiple Guests (mixed)don't I'll be 48 in a few months just we didn't have this when I was younger I we didn't sort of what a weird why would the would I lie about it 600,000 Americans who fly planes it's not that

Multiple Guests (mixed)special it's like literally driving it's actually easier than driving no let them talk they're talking about Andrew I want him to hear

Multiple Guests (mixed)it is I thought it was going to be nice I just and they're just going to keep at it like all night till like 2: a.m. this do I leave it's

Multiple Guests (mixed)boring sorry I know who's watching this all night long all right sorry guys we uh yeah you can recall them sorry guys

Brian Atlasunfortunately our lost a bunch of people it's okay um let me just check I'm going to read a couple chats while that's going through uh we had to switch it over to our backup internet which I don't know what's going on with our internet recently like we've never had

Brian Atlasthis issue anyways MD I'm going to have you read a couple chats go ahead training the suits in the back for the draft so they can vote we already read this do the did we yeah oh my bad

Brian Atlasokay hold on you sure we read it yeah you're right we did we did is it really almost midnight sorry guys we're getting some

Multiple Guests (mixed)chats in speaking of if you want Reed is 100 TTS is 200 go ahead man my marriage was doomed to fail the wife insisted on having the word obey removed from our wedding vows question for each lady do

Multiple Guests (mixed)you believe that it is a woman's role to obey her husband do you believe that it's a woman's role to obey her husband go ahead I think we already addressed this

Multiple Guests (mixed)earlier when Charlie was here and um he brought up that chart so if you want to bring that chart up that's how I feel about it okay exactly I feel like the fact that it was under God made a really really important

Shai / Imogen (mixed)point I didn't see the chart but no okay do I think wives should obey their

Brian Atlashusbands yeah sometimes okay um not necessarily depends on like the situation yeah sometimes it depends yes

Serenait depends sometimes yeah for Maddie can you read this highend companion equals wrink gold

Serenadigger sorry not my words you do have wrinkles I love you all right thank you psycho appreciate it man do we have Andrew back or okay uh we'll

Multiple Guests (mixed)read I hit it Maddie can you read this one that's coming sorry Andrew her Internet's been oh the pilot just got her license removed land the plane rent a plane with the pilot to join the mile

Multiple Guests (mixed)high club what does the plane cost per flight to rent big El to rent a used aircraft

Brian AtlasI believe her okay thank you uh Joe Murphy appreciate it uh kill of Cal thank you man Andrew you

Serenashould ask her what epistemology means to the panel would you date a homeless person who decides to be on the street and homeless even though they are rich MoneyWise okay so to the to the start of

Andrew Wilsonthat question um do you do you know what epistemology means who's this directed too uh that would be I think the pilot again is he ever going to leave me alone it's not me

Multiple Guests (mixed)search for knowledge it's things like statistics and sociology and social sciences it's sort of the search for knowledge as opposed to like abstract math like calculus okay it had nothing to do with

Andrew Wilsonme I was just reading the chat enough she knew it you see you like you seem super upset with me I don't even know what we what I did that made you so adversarial eight hours have we been

Shai / Imogen (mixed)here for that long I've been here since 4 when can we go I'm joking but what time do you guys end I'm hungry yo you guys asked to be on the show yeah oh I'm glad yo speak in

Shai / Imogen (mixed)the mic if you're going to speak I am glad to be here I'm just hungry there's Pizza back there there's chips back there okay it's

Brian Atlascold was there a second part to that question yeah the second part was would you date a homeless person who decides to be on the street and homeless even though they are rich money wise no

Multiple Guests (mixed)they're not rich in the mind yeah also know there's something wrong with you in the head if you decide to live on streets and cosplay a

Multiple Guests (mixed)homeless person okay yeah I believe the same

Brian Atlasthing no come here you want move over there yeah oh going around the table here okay do you do I need a really Point At You guys each like if if I

Brian Atlaspoint here it's going to you then to you then to you like guys I don't need to like hand told you guys all night boom boom boom that's how we're doing it I thought they were pilots so you're

Multiple Guests (mixed)commanding them we're going around the table with a question where did we leave off right there I think I

Brian Atlaswouldn't what was the question would you date a guy who's cosplaying bro you got to pay attention it's really not that hard would you date a guy who homeless but was push yourself into the table so you can speak into the

Shai / Imogen (mixed)microphone no I'm going to say no I didn't know what the question was but I'm going to say no I'm not really interested anyway yeah no no uh

Brian Atlasmaybe no I would not all right well getting into some other pre-show notes Here bringing it to uh hold on where do

Brian Atlaswe bring bring it to uh okay we did all those we're going to bring it back to Heather or yeah so Heather you said you met your husband on seeking they did uh what was the nature

Multiple Guests (mixed)of the arrangement because the website used to be called seeking Arrangement so uh what was the nature of your Arrangement so we never actually had an arrangement um I mean I was on Bumble tnder hinge and I was really frustrated

Multiple Guests (mixed)with you know not actually getting dates if people just want to Netflix and chill and my roommate mentioned seeking to me um and she's like it's a way to find a good high value guy um and at that point

Multiple Guests (mixed)I was making you know over six figures and I didn't want to be fider anymore but I know on my profile I that I was looking for a long-term relationship and then his profile actually stuck out saying that he was looking for somebody

Multiple Guests (mixed)to like have a life with and to build his Empire with so we were both looking for an actual relationship what happened Matt the

Brian AtlasPilot Talk while you were gone complaining the show is too long talk about Andrew too do you want to just restate what you were saying while

Andrew WilsonI was not paying attention uh I'm am getting tired mhm and and I I don't like Andrew oh I got to ask you a question

Andrew Wilsonthough uh this is an honest question the seat that you're sitting on is it broken what but is the seat you're sitting on bro I mean it's an honest question is the seat that you're you're

Andrew Wilsonsitting on broken the reason I ask is because you're super butt hurt and nobody knows why nobody nobody has any idea why you're so butt hurt but maybe you should

Andrew Wilsonjust stop being such a brat and engage in the conversation she likes you now Andrew I know know you're years old but maybe you can just engage in the conversation you got one point for

Andrew Wilsonher keep at it we like the corny jokes the dad jokes got it so okay you met your I mean for For the Love of I mean something had to make somebody laugh holy like you're so

Andrew Wilsonstodgy just relax nobody's nobody's out to get you I'm just curious about your backstory as you've been talking about it that's it I don't know why you're so combative nobody knows why you're so combative maybe you just

Andrew Wilsonrelax did you not believe that she's a pilot no it had nothing to do with me there was a chatter who was in the chat who sent in some cash and wanted to ask

Andrew Wilsonthat question so I asked it did oh okay do with what I believe or don't believe I was just I just asked the question oh okay cuz it didn't seem like you believed her but I don't know what that means they

Andrew Wilsondidn't seem it seemed like I just asked some basic questions that were requested that I ask I didn't say I believe her don't believe her I have I have no idea anything about her I'm just

Brian AtlasI just was following up on a question which was asked okay so going back to this uh so you met on Arrangement but but she doesn't know

Andrew Wilsonabout guns I can tell you that nothing nothing nothing about guns but I I don't know on the pilot stuff but nothing about guns okay uh what about

Brian Atlasyou about guns so okay you met your husband on seeking all right and were you so okay had you dated other men on seeking or was he like the first guy that you met

Multiple Guests (mixed)on there I mean I I went on some meets with some other guys but nothing ever really took off and so what was the nature of their Arrangements like would they pay you for dates no I just isn't that like how seeking I well yes but I

Brian Atlaswasn't looking for an arrangement because I made my own money but like so why go on seeking because I couldn't find guys that made more than me on okay so you want to meet like a guy okay uh

Brian Atlasand you said your husband had consulted with fresh yes from fresh and fit correct like a 30 minute consult or 1 hour consult I think an hour consult to

Brian Atlaslike redo how much does he how much does he charge for those like 4,000 bucks no it's a couple thousand pretty sure he charges like four G's for an hour I think he said he paid like 400 oh 400

Brian Atlasokay then go all right he got the he got the good deal from FR uh he's gotten way up in the last couple years sure wait how long ago did he do this console with

Brian Atlasfresh two three years ago okay uh you said he so your husband updated his profile based on Fresh's feet Walter we're talking about Walter here okay uh

Multiple Guests (mixed)and then you met shortly after um so the consult was 400 with u with Walter I think that's what he said okay wait what does he do like give it's

Brian Atlaslike an consult he like helps you oh I didn't know that has you like change your pictures if they're not good enough so he F okay Walter helped him

Brian Atlasfix up his uh his profile cool you met you met your uh now husband you said that he retired you when he proposed so

Brian Atlasthat you could follow your dream and go to law school correct okay so you were previously making six figures and you had a high level corporate director job in food

Brian Atlasmanufacturing that is correct okay that's cool and so are you how how far are you into law school I start in August oh you you haven't started yet yeah he proposed

Brian Atlaswait but if last year I I'm confused you said he retired you he retired me from my job to go into another job I mean he I don't have to work if I

Multiple Guests (mixed)don't want to he is paying for law school for me because well that's something you want because I want to do but I won't have to work like a crazy big law job working 80

Brian Atlasto 100 hours a week I have a very little niche field of law that I want to go into okay what's that um corporate food law oh corporate food law okay do you know

Multiple Guests (mixed)how much you anticipate to uh earn like first second third year once you the companies I worked for we paid our ATT earnings 1,500 an

Multiple Guests (mixed)hour okay right corporate food law what's like so so like if companies go into like a recall for a product recall you help

Brian Atlasdeal with the USDA and the FDA right okay interesting uh but you already making six figures years right and I liked my job I just I needed

Multiple Guests (mixed)I needed something more I wasn't fulfilled what about being a wife didn't you say you're a stay-at home wife I am a stay-at home wife and I go to gym and I get my hair done and my

Brian Atlasnails done and sure you said you were previously married to a bum for eight years who had no ambition and I made quite a bit more than him uh you also had become obese while I was with him

Brian Atlaswhen I left him I decided to get my body back and you lost over 100 pounds and bettered yourself so why why what was the breakdown or what was the cause of the

Multiple Guests (mixed)breakdown of your previous marriage I mean I honestly almost left him at the altar um and you stayed with him for eight years we Roman Catholic I was told that divorce is not an option um and I

Multiple Guests (mixed)just you know kept getting more depressed and suicidal and I hated my life W okay um ended up going to to Uganda for a couple weeks on kind of a humanitarian trip and it was really the

Multiple Guests (mixed)first time I had ever been away from him and I felt so free was there infidelity nope oh wait you said you went to Uganda I

Multiple Guests (mixed)did I worked for human I worked high school girls and helping them work on College stuff I went on Safari I floated the N okay you wanted to talk about roles in

Brian Atlasrelationships male female equality and how to attract a high caliber guy so what did you want to speak on when it came to roles and then male female

Multiple Guests (mixed)equality I don't really remember writing that um your name's Heather right it is okay no I just what you wrote I know I've heard on podcast sometimes that

Multiple Guests (mixed)like girls think that men and women are are equal um and I I really I don't think so I think that they each bring different qualities to a

Brian Atlasrelationship and that there are things that each of them are better at but we are not equal okay cool and you said you wanted to talk about how to attract a high caliber

Multiple Guests (mixed)guy I mean I think one thing that a couple things that I've learned from my husband and a couple other guys that I've talked to that you know he networks with but they

Multiple Guests (mixed)want somebody who's in shape somebody who's friendly feminine um they do want somebody with intelligence even though a lot of times they say that they don't care about their

Brian Atlascareers um I know I I'm really good with all of his business centers and business contacts okay just playing The Good Wife all right and then I'm going to

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