Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! HEATED DEBATE With Feminists! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #172

Date: 2024-06-24
Duration: 8h 37m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_03Shai / Imogen (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_06Serena(guest)
SPEAKER_09Charlie Kirk(guest)
SPEAKER_11TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_14Multiple Guests (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

00:04:31
IntroCharlie Kirk introduction — announces himself as Erica's husband, founder of Turning Point USA, 30yo, 2 kids under 2, book promo week.

I am Charlie I'm Erica's husband and uh father of two we just had a new baby uh so we have two under two

00:35:26
Key MomentCharlie Kirk explains three waves of feminism to panel (suffrage, Gloria Steinem/workforce, third wave = any inequity is wrong).

first wave feminism would be like the Equal Rights Amendment...second wave feminism was like Gloria Steinem...third wave feminism is that any inequity that we see between men or women is inherently wrong

00:35:46
ControversyHeated debate: should women be drafted into military? Charlie argues men should protect women; panel debates equality vs. protection.

I would say to reach optimal results if we're speaking on war then yes we should Shield women from the draft

01:59:36
Key MomentCharlie Kirk describes encountering a Grizzly bear in the wild during Man vs. Bear debate segment.

I've seen a grizzly bear up close and personal and I've lived right only them that is not fun you don't want to see a grizzly bear

03:42:05
OtherCharlie Kirk departs the show at ~222 minutes after book promo and panel debate.

He's a brave and decent man he's a pioneer he's a Pioneer thank you for coming Charlie

03:46:00
IntroAndrew Wilson joins the show mid-episode, introduces himself as host of The Crucible and political analyst.

my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible I'm a political analyst

03:48:27
Key MomentAndrew Wilson interrogates Amy about her 18-year polyamorous dating arrangement, challenging the timeline math and motivations.

I'm just trying to figure out why how long you were actually with these two guys

04:24:48
QuoteLeah reveals ex-boyfriend prostituted himself for meth — Brian calls it 'winning the Whatever podcast'.

he would prostitute himself for math oh that's horrible...he would to men to men

07:41:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson confronts Imogen about choosing OnlyFans over her Catholic mother's wishes; extended exchange about trusting parental guidance.

your mom says don't do this...why don't you trust her wisdom

07:46:00
QuoteAndrew Wilson to Imogen: 'You are one of the most dishonest trolls, you're even bad at trolling.'

you are one dishonest trolls you're even bad at trolling you're even bad at that

07:59:30
OtherBody count round: Shai claims 'off the scales, lost count at like 80, past 80'. Imogen claims 0 (disputed by Andrew and audience).

my body count is off the scales I don't even know I lost count at like 80

Topics Discussed

00:00:07
Guest introductions

All 9 female guests and Charlie Kirk introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Followed by relationship status round.

00:22:00
Feminist clip reaction — liberal women wanting traditional men

Brian plays viral clip of liberal woman lamenting that masculine men who provide tend to be conservative. Panel reacts.

00:23:00
Who pays on first date; feminism definitions

Discussion of first date payment norms. Charlie Kirk explains three waves of feminism. Panel debates whether they identify as feminists.

00:56:00
Women in military draft debate

Debate whether women should be subject to military conscription (Selective Service). Charlie Kirk argues men should always pay and shields women from war. Panel offers varied views. Heather makes uterus/repopulation argument.

01:26:00
Birth control, capitalism, wage gap

Brian's previous comments about hormonal birth control affecting women's brains discussed. Charlie expands on it. Discussion of gender wage gap, capitalist systems, and equal pay for equal work.

01:58:00
Man vs. Bear debate

Classic viral debate: would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or a random bear? Shai chooses bear; most others choose man. Charlie Kirk's perspective on bear vs. man.

02:12:00
Would you date a conservative; religious men

Panel discusses whether they would date a conservative or Trumpy man. Charlie recommends religious men. Discussion of finding good men and Catholic faith.

03:40:00
Charlie Kirk departs; Andrew Wilson joins; ratings round

Charlie Kirk leaves at ~222 min. Brief transition, ratings round conducted, Andrew Wilson (The Crucible) joins the panel.

03:48:00
Andrew Wilson debates Amy about polyamorous arrangement

Andrew Wilson interrogates Amy about her 18-year concurrent relationship arrangement with two men, questioning the timeline and motivations.

03:57:00
Extended panel discussions — dating, relationships, social topics

Various topics including dating apps, body counts, OnlyFans, feminism continued. Multiple TTS rating rounds throughout.

07:40:00
Andrew Wilson vs. Australian OnlyFans guests; body counts

Andrew Wilson confronts Imogen about Catholic upbringing vs. OnlyFans career. Questions why she won't trust her mother's advice. Heated back-and-forth. Body count round: Shai claims 80+, Imogen claims 0 (disputed).

08:04:00
End of show roast, wrap-up

Roast section. Andrew Wilson and Shai/Imogen trade insults. Show wraps. Announcement of next stream.

Transcript

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01:54:57
Charlie Kirkis and that's a really good question so where where did all the good men go I talked about this in my book actually the first piece of advice I have for young ladies is do not post suggestive material yourself online men want what
01:55:08
Charlie Kirkthey cannot see and cannot have mystery is lacking in the west and I know this is lost on a lot of young ladies they say the more I post of myself on you know with a bikini on the beach the more men will like you no I mean the more
01:55:20
Charlie Kirkthey'll want have sex with you but then they'll look at you as just a visual or commodity not as a future soulmate the second part is to be perfectly honest with you religious men check a lot of the boxes that you guys are looking for
01:55:33
Multiple Guests (mixed)I know that would you agree with that yeah that's my I feel like I feel like that's one reason why I was able to find men like that it's because even though they weren't conservative they still had very very deep religious values can you
01:55:43
Multiple Guests (mixed)tell me more that's so interesting um mainly Catholic I'm also Catholic yeah so and they were they believed in God right they wanted to have family yeah they didn't necessarily like read the
01:55:55
Charlie KirkBible word for word every day but they like followed the Bible so would you would you say that's if you're looking to find a man in the west and it's your number one priority and you were given a
01:56:05
Charlie Kirkrandom selection of a Catholic man or kind of a fanboy atheist you would take the Catholic yeah I would would you uh the Catholic yes I think Fanboy atheist is so funny so how many of you are then going to church actively trying to find
01:56:19
Multiple Guests (mixed)a man I mean I don't need to I also well I'm I know but I didn't meet any of my boyfriends in church and I feel like I wouldn't have if I'm going to be honest I feel like you can meet a really religious man outside of church you just
01:56:31
Multiple Guests (mixed)have to find where you guys both coincide and yeah like at the library starting for your exams for example I actually recommend to my single friends to find men in the church because I agree usually standup guys typically
01:56:45
Charlie Kirkyeah and I mean there's there's exceptions to every Rule and so my advice to my two Australian friends is that if you want the thing that is the most important thing to you start making those decisions younger than older
01:56:55
Brian Atlasbecause you might end up be filled with a lot of money and a lot of regret well put Charlie well put let me read two of these chats that we have
01:57:05
Brian Atlaskind of uh Hugo here we go thank you Hugo appreciate it yeah I'll get it and then he sent in this other one here s a lot of Bible verses yeah Hugo Brian Reed I know your faith service and
01:57:16
Brian Atlasperseverance but you tolerate that fake Prophet Jezebel who leads my servants into sex immorality and idol worship she refuses to repent so I will cast her
01:57:26
Brian Atlasinto suffering and make her followers suffer unless they rep repent rev to 1922 uh and then in this one though you
01:57:35
Brian Atlassaid it was 1921 so uh thank you might be one could be yeah it could be a different one uh yeah these are the same but Hugo thank you man really appreciate
01:57:46
Brian Atlasyour chat guys if you want to get any get in some couple chats uh so I do want to get into our next topic here and that topic is we've asked this on the show a couple times it went
01:57:56
Brian Atlasviral uh this conversation not from the show went viral uh I think it'd be good to do it while we have Charlie here question is would you rather be stuck in
01:58:07
Brian Atlasthe woods with a random man or a random bear starting with you go ahead um how random totally random so the US
01:58:19
Brian Atlasmale population is like over 150 million so just a random man I've heard really good Arguments for
01:58:27
Brian Atlasboth but what what's uh I guess kind of your knee gut Choice here how long am I stuck I think you're overthinking the question a little bit but so it's just
01:58:38
Brian Atlasrandom man or random bear so okay you you get randomly plopped in the forest sure the man gets randomly plopped in the forest you are going to cross paths the choice is between crossing
01:58:50
Multiple Guests (mixed)paths with a random men or random bear random man okay so I'm going to prefac this I was on the show like what was like a month ago and we had that question and I did answer bear and I I
01:59:04
Brian AtlasI'm just going to say I'm going to change my answer for the sake of I don't feel like arguing for the wait no no no no you can't change your answer for the sake of not wanting to argue it answer answer honestly no because the reason why I chose the bear last time was for
01:59:16
Multiple Guests (mixed)the sake of the argument if I'm going to be so honest like if I a random man the chances of it being like all points I made of the violent the essay all that the chances of that are pretty low
01:59:26
Multiple Guests (mixed)compared to the chances of the Bayer seeing me running after me you know so I don't feel like arguing for the sake of the bear we're going to choose the man today so to be clear your answer is the
01:59:37
Multiple Guests (mixed)bear but you just don't want to argue it because Charlie's here no no no no I said I chose the bear on the show last time because I I for the sake of the argument I had so many reasons to argue for the bear whereas like right now I'm
01:59:49
Multiple Guests (mixed)like why would I even do that like the chances of it being a violent man and all those things that I had already mentioned which you know so so I convinced you through my argumentation no the thing is I already knew that from the start like if you told me if you phrased the answer like if you phrase
02:00:02
Multiple Guests (mixed)the question like this one of my male friends or a male I knew or a male that I've even that's not the question NIV that I know like you know not the question not the question though I know
02:00:13
Brian Atlasit's random I'm being so real today yeah are you yeah that's good so I'm going choose the man you're saying I choose the man if you frame the question like this no I'm saying like that just adds
02:00:25
Brian Atlasto it but I'm choosing the man either way today okay man by the way don't let people's prev like you can if somebody else says man and you think bear you can don't let
02:00:37
Multiple Guests (mixed)them pressure you into answering otherwise go ahead of course ma'am but I'm curious what your reasons for Bear were I guess I'll go watch that yeah we can get into it was a whole I will I watch men or Bear yeah I don't
02:00:48
Brian Atlasunderstand why I would be with a bear so wait okay hold on hold on okay let me just explain the scenario here so you you there's a button on the table we press it boom instantly you're
02:00:59
Brian Atlastransported into a forest so is a random man and so is a random bear you guys are going to cross paths within 5 minutes let's say okay
02:01:10
Brian Atlasman okay I would say bear there we go okay we got a bear all right man man man man
02:01:20
Brian Atlasman man uh you would rather and so we'll get into the reasons why I think when we ask men this question I try to I'll frame it differently for you Charlie would you rather your daughter be alone
02:01:31
Charlie Kirkin the woods with a random man totally random man or a random bear probably man I I know how vicious Bears can be and uh you might get a man who would be
02:01:41
Brian Atlascharitable so you say bear come on guys you were bear last time we'll just okay anyways why do you say bear over man I just think like the chance of you
02:01:54
Multiple Guests (mixed)potentially getting stuck with a man that could like like yeah you can get mauled by a bear but like a man can like keep you in captivity and like they could
02:02:04
Brian Atlasyeah they could torture you they could they also help you out of the W but help you survive yeah but I feel like I could
02:02:13
Brian Atlasprobably do it myself too fair enough um soce so you said that there's a chance that the men could do X right so they
02:02:23
Brian Atlascould U they could you know whatever what percentage of men do you think in this scenario would opt to do like victimize you in some sort of
02:02:38
Multiple Guests (mixed)way I mean I would say maybe High just because like even if I'm walking on the street I'm like getting harassed so like okay and that's wrong but so when you
02:02:50
Brian Atlassay hi can you uh like give us a percentage 50%
02:02:58
Brian Atlas60% I want to say 50 but I okay so 50 so in the scenario you think 50% of men would choose to attack you or uh do
02:03:10
Multiple Guests (mixed)something untoward in this situation I mean you never know I just think like yeah like a bear you can
02:03:23
Brian Atlasapproach the situation more calmly and you can walk away you could what if I told you bears run faster than humans does that change anything no okay cuz I think if
02:03:34
Brian Atlasyou so you think 50% of men are inclined to victimize you in some sort of way I just would rather not be in the forest
02:03:44
Brian Atlaswith a man i' rather be alone with a bear well yeah that's so that's the question um so there's like how many men are in here
02:03:54
Brian Atlaswe've got two four is it six y we have so so half of us three of us in this situation would like try to do something gnarly you think
02:04:05
Multiple Guests (mixed)or I mean like that's 50% right it's that but like if it's like the whole population there's probably a good amount of men that would want to
02:04:15
Brian Atlastry to do something that's not helping you get out of the forest and is that percent of the population is that 50% I think that's the number you used I mean potentially okay what if the
02:04:28
Brian Atlasman has to be afraid of us do you think it's you go to UC Riverside right do you think it would be F boy do you think it would be uh 50% of the men at UC Riverside would do
02:04:37
Brian Atlasthis um I mean if anything I think higher no definitely oh lower at UC Riverside okay yeah but I don't think if I was stuck in what's the population of the unit sorry go ahead go ahead if I
02:04:51
Multiple Guests (mixed)was stuck in the forest with the man from UCR like I don't think they're going to help me so she what are they going to do yeah like I don't think they're going
02:04:59
Brian Atlasto okay so what's the population of the United States 320 million or something anybody know it's a 350 I think 350 okay
02:05:09
Brian Atlasso then how many is that that's that's 70 million men about 175 uh so half of a let's say half of
02:05:19
Brian Atlas170 is 85 do I have that right sorry it's been a minute since I took algebra right 75 million or wait what did I say 70 it's
02:05:30
Multiple Guests (mixed)like 125 right 75 million 175 100 wait so half of that is oh my just over 87 87.5 85 million
02:05:41
Brian Atlas87.5 85 let's just say okay so are you prepared to state that 85 million men in the United States would choose would choose or opt to uh victimize a woman in this scenario
02:05:56
Brian Atlashopefully not well what you hope is kind of a relevant here I'm just trying to get clarification on if you think the number is actually that high that you think half of
02:06:06
Multiple Guests (mixed)men would I just think it's a 50/50 chance that the person that you're stuck with is that they will either help you or help you not like they won't help you well okay that's well you think it's a 50/50
02:06:20
Brian Atlaschance that they would help you or not help you yeah depending on the person there's a 50/50 chance that they will help you or not not saying 50% of but you said your fear is about being attacked so I don't how does helping you
02:06:32
Multiple Guests (mixed)play into this or like there's a 5050 chance of them either attacking me or wanting to like help me get out of the forest so 50% of men would choose to
02:06:41
Multiple Guests (mixed)attack you no I'm saying like it's a individual percentage like I don't know how to explain you mean
02:06:54
Multiple Guests (mixed)like on the basis of choice like a man will either hurt you or help you no I think it's either he'll help you or not help you and then within not help you maybe he'll attack you but yeah but that
02:07:05
Multiple Guests (mixed)percentage goes very low so I mean I feel like I've been camping enough so I feel like I rather just be with the bear so have you ever seen a
02:07:19
Multiple Guests (mixed)bear in person I mean no but I my friend me and my friend discussed this one time and she chose bear she genuinely thought that like baby bears were like Winnie
02:07:29
Multiple Guests (mixed)the Pooh size and like adult bears were like German Shepherd size so she's all day long Steve what yeah and vicious yes uh Nick can you pull this up this is
02:07:41
Brian Atlaskind of related you been in no it's the one that should already be uh brown bear 9 ft tall 303 100 lb
02:07:52
Brian Atlasclaw up to 4 in bite force 1200 PSI speed up to 35 M Kyle 510 174 lbs project engineer said hi to you at the gym so this is kind of like this is my
02:08:02
Brian Atlasviews on this it's just uh I don't know it's pretty interesting um so I mean Charlie so we've we've asked this question a bunch of times on the show uh a lot of women say bear this panel we only have the one here what are your
02:08:16
Brian Atlasthoughts on this sort of the women picking the bear well I'm curious have you have you been victimized by men um like random men yeah I'm sorry like cat calling is I think that's what you
02:08:27
Charlie Kirkwere alluding to before right yeah like guys harassing you on the street or I'm curious how many people give those answers have had repeated negative interactions with random men right because it could definitely color there
02:08:38
Charlie Kirkdaily but oh daily I'm sorry to hear that yeah um but no I mean there's I mean in in America a lot of people would think that men are out to to hurt you and they're not totally wrong sometimes
02:08:50
Charlie Kirkbut I mean not percentage wise you're much more likely to have a bear rip you apart than have a man rip you apart so what are the stats on like it's one in three one in Four Women report that they've been sexually assaulted it's a
02:09:03
Charlie Kirklot it's way inflated though that's yeah it's it's there's a lot of rapes and sexual assaults but that's what are the stats on I hung out with a bear and live to tell zero right nobody I've seen a
02:09:13
Charlie Kirkgrizzly bear up close and personal and I've lived right only them I uh that is not fun you don't want to see a grizzly bear that is not fun scary oh yeah they're huge I mean and I'm I'm a tall guy and you looking up you're
02:09:25
Charlie Kirktall charling what are you 64 yeah 64 65 and they they get up and you look up at them and they Grizzlies are the worst now you didn't specify what type of bear though oh yeah koala I was being reasonable well koala but if it's a uh
02:09:37
Charlie Kirkif it's a if it's a black bear they will not hurt you but if it's a grizzly bear or a polar bear a polar bear will hunt you I thought I thought I thought Brown Bear say find the black brown no that's yeah Brown is safe uh well Brown is a
02:09:49
Charlie Kirkmixture of black and grizzly but black black is safe Brown it depends how you define it it's not a real term Grizzly is a round face and they'll hunt you down but polar is the wor Polar
02:10:00
Charlie KirkPolar is the only animal that actively hunts humans yeah see if Brian would have specified polar bear that first round on that last episode I would never chose polar bear as soon as they smell
02:10:11
Charlie Kirkyour scent within like a 50 mile radius they're hunting you oh my gosh so if you have if you pull a tag to hunt a polar bear it's a two-way hunt yeah I think everyone is under the assumption it was the other Bear yeah but the the grizzly
02:10:23
Charlie Kirkbear will leave you alone as long as you don't like overly provoke them but a Grizzly does kill humans very rarely does a a black bear C we actually had uh I think a month ago within the done a lot of bear hunting so uh within the
02:10:35
Brian Atlaspast month here in California first ever black bear fatality a woman is that right extremely rare it is rare a woman was uh killed by black bear up in where she must have been a real she must have
02:10:47
Multiple Guests (mixed)done something weird she tried to poke the bear on joke if you take a 22 when you're bear hunting make sure to like stand off the end cuz then it'll hurt less when the
02:10:57
Charlie Kirkbear shs here 22 will not slow down a bear you'll just anger it like nothing right no that's bear spray is actually more effective than 99% of firearms in stopping a bear that's a good good
02:11:08
Charlie Kirklittle side note if you're ever Back Country hiking cuz uh most guns will just piss off the bear what is bear what's in bear spray I don't know it's yeah it's like pepper spray but it's it's so irritating to the bear it just
02:11:20
Charlie Kirkfle the area yeah it it goes right up there not nasal cavity and they just they get out of there I mean again the goal is not to kill the bear it's to get them out of the way so um yeah so you do not want to mess with a mess with a mama
02:11:31
Brian Atlasbear either that's no fun right now I did want to get back into some uh perhaps dating related David doesn't know what he's talking about there you go uh sister friend we're okay some dating related
02:11:44
Brian Atlastopics so actually uh I don't know if we went around would you guys date a did we already ask this would you guys date a
02:11:53
Brian Atlasconservative guy you didn't ask that okay sure yeah okay uh if he wasn't hardcore hard hardcore hardcore conservative yeah like I Can't
02:12:05
Multiple Guests (mixed)Have magah Hat that's what if he's like a conservative from like a different n like a different Nation like like kazak like Germany yeah wait no no no got her no no not part of
02:12:17
Multiple Guests (mixed)Isis but like if there's like a country where conservatives not hard poor not trumpy just regular guys UK would that be a good they're kind of less conservatives in the UK they're like Democrats I'm curious I would dat a UK
02:12:30
Charlie KirkI'm not I'm not here to debate you I'm curious when when when you hear of like Maga e trumpy what is like give me a word association what do you think someone who wouldn't like me I like for one like it's not even just that like
02:12:40
Multiple Guests (mixed)they would hair huh huh huh I I didn't say anything what is it is it the hair like is that what they would not like about you yeah this ter tend to Trav a very different type of man than the
02:12:51
Multiple Guests (mixed)trumpy it's like the yeah you know the bangs yeah trumpies don't like the bangs They don't like the bangs Okay but that's good cuz I don't like trumpies I don't want them approaching me either way Trum trumpies what what what about trumpies don't you like oh my god do you
02:13:04
Multiple Guests (mixed)want you want a list of things I'm curious I'm I don't meet this well if I'm going to get really specific um the type of trumpies that I grew up with cuz I'm from Woodland California so those are like red red in California no no
02:13:17
Multiple Guests (mixed)like even north of that yeah like you know where Sacramento is yeah sure yeah right next to sack and then right between Davis so it's like Cow Town like Farmers land okay so that's his trumpy trumpy world yeah like yeah I can't do
02:13:29
Multiple Guests (mixed)redneck but you I think you were going to list kind of some of the reasons why well you wouldn't dat a trumpy yeah cuz that's the type of man I'm envisioning a racist redneck who drives his little tractor around town and races goats for
02:13:42
Multiple Guests (mixed)his free free time um sounds like a good time I mean the the tractor part maybe not the racism yeah well I'm also Hispanic and I speak Spanish so it's like yeah these men wouldn't deal with
02:13:54
Brian Atlasthat aren't there like Latinos for Trump oh there hug there's a lot of conservatives that are tons yeah what about like a are there like uh immigrants for Trump or is that oh there's I mean there's all sorts of
02:14:06
Multiple Guests (mixed)Coalition that would be yeah something but no I'm not I wouldn't date an immigrant for Trump either okay no so that's like a nogo mag hat yeah no go
02:14:15
Multiple Guests (mixed)okay what uh what about you every man I've Loved has been conservative oh okay um yes you date a conservative guy um I
02:14:25
Brian Atlashaven't dated but I've dealt with one okay yes well didn't you say that part of the
02:14:36
Brian Atlasreasons your relationship broke up he I think if I recall you said he was a bit more on the conserv conservative side your ex-boyfriend of three years I wouldn't say he was like
02:14:48
Charlie Kirkconservative maybe not like Islamic right yeah yeah it was religious yeah yeah it was muslim okay what about you
02:14:56
Brian Atlasum yeah word absolutely yeah okay and I married one there you go I don't I don't date
02:15:04
Brian Atlasmen okay all right uh let know thank you I want to ask this question would you date a young Donald
02:15:15
Multiple Guests (mixed)Trump like literally young Donald Trump when he was young yeah when he was young hell yeah oh okay all right there you go would you date young Donald Trump no F
02:15:26
Multiple Guests (mixed)no okay all right what about you of course or uh would you date Donald Trump now well he's married so that would be rough and I like Melania so I'm not going to do that to her um but yeah in
02:15:39
Multiple Guests (mixed)the '90s I have friends who used to date him in the '90s two of my friends um yeah uh and apparently he was a great guy super fun super smart I mean wow you Manhattan everyone above a certain floor is a trump fan yeah everyone below a
02:15:51
Multiple Guests (mixed)certain floor hates him it's kind of vertical in Manhattan interesting okay would you would you date young young Donald Trump DT no no no not your type I don't even
02:16:04
Shai / Imogen (mixed)know much about Donald Trump I it must be nice living in Australia away from actually no I haven't I've only seen like memes of him that's sure would you would you date
02:16:16
Brian Atlasyoung Donald Trump I don't even know what he looked like when he was young he was very dashing pull up his uh his uh mug shot please um I don't know much about him so I can't really have an
02:16:28
Brian Atlasopinion uh no I think he's a little bit too I think he he uses as much fake tan as you guys sorry oh my God my bad it's a
02:16:37
Brian Atlasnatural oh so say it's natural yeah okay the it is the gold Co yeah my bad mhm my God that's okay well what they they photo they photosho this they photosho
02:16:49
Brian Atlasthis this is recent this is not Young Donald Trump they photosho this they put red in his eyes that's definitely you know they so mean anyways handsome guy right I'm like I I wouldn't date him if he was younger than
02:17:01
Charlie Kirkme okay all right I'm curious so if the election was today would you vote for Trump yeah okay wait but are you a US citizen yes Oh I thought you you didn't you say you were from Russia yeah I came
02:17:13
Multiple Guests (mixed)here when I was three it was Kaz kazak's the best who I I think I know your answer F no I was just going to say no okay and then I'm still on the fence my
02:17:25
Charlie Kirkfamily knows I'm very very divided okay I fail you just don't know and then uh Australia so not applicable who are you going to vote
02:17:35
Charlie Kirkfor in the presidential election I don't vote okay okay no idea Trump I think I know your answer I'm
02:17:47
Multiple Guests (mixed)like you know my answer this is a trump heavy panel why why don't you F we could we could do young Donald there he is still kind of hold not going to lie yeah oh is that successful Donald though
02:17:59
Brian Atlasyeah this is that's before he really started eyebrows look he's got some eyebrows it's not body shame going to be still good looking all right trousers on yeah this a bit you know I think perhaps some
02:18:12
Brian Atlasof them are are a bit frightened in your presence Charlie to reveal their super Progressive and liberal positions here I'm not that I'm not a bear he's not a bear not a bear uh I'm going to read
02:18:24
Brian Atlasactually I'll wait a little bit on the chats um I did want to come back to the feminist conversation would you date a guy who's not a
02:18:34
Multiple Guests (mixed)feminist in what way like he's just not like what does he not does he want me to not vote uh he's fine with uh women voting
02:18:45
Multiple Guests (mixed)let's just say that but he's non- feminist oh I don't know I feel I think that question has to be elaborated a little bit more it's pretty
02:18:55
Multiple Guests (mixed)generalized it's hard for me to say okay I'll move it on what about you um well is he anti-feminist or is he just like oh I don't hold political views type of
02:19:05
Multiple Guests (mixed)guy he is anti-feminist oh no no would you date an anti-feminist guy um no oh
02:19:15
Brian Atlasno actually and you were gone when we asked this would you date Donald Trump no young Donald Trump Y young Donald Trump okay there was still
02:19:28
Multiple Guests (mixed)many really yes would you date an anti-feminist I it would if he's hateful and hates women I don't want to hear it so probably not okay well so you can you
02:19:39
Multiple Guests (mixed)can be not a feminist but also like women okay then you sure but you can't be anti-feminist and like woman really no you can to that degree I mean cuz
02:19:50
Brian Atlasanti-feminist men are saying that women shouldn't vote that they should stay in house not necessarily not necessarily so you can be so feminism is an ideology has nothing to do like you
02:20:03
Multiple Guests (mixed)could people who label themselves as an anti-feminist man you're saying they tend to yes they tend to be those type of guys we're going under true generalization you know then if let me
02:20:13
Brian Atlasask this question do women who label themselves as feminists do they hate men no okay are there feminists who hate men for sure very much yeah and there's
02:20:25
Brian Atlasanti-feminists who hate women yeah but and there's feminists who hate women there's it's a weird there's anti-feminist women who also don't have any hate for women either yeah it's a weird world yeah but you can you can be
02:20:35
Brian Atlasa woman and be anti- feminist yeah yeah it's not clear to me so what I mean if I if you had to assign a percentage what percentage of anti-feminists do you think also hate women over half that's
02:20:48
Brian Atlaswhy I would more than half yeah that's why I would just choose pretty big number not sure I I don't know if they've done a study on this but I can't imagine that that's actually accurate uh where we were going
02:20:59
Multiple Guests (mixed)around the table would you date an anti-feminist um no no okay probably not no yeah sure
02:21:12
Multiple Guests (mixed)take back the right to vote I don't care we didn't earn it what oh there you go okay that's the new one it's based okay I would you would okay all right yeah
02:21:23
Multiple Guests (mixed)well there you have it folks uh wa I don't hold on first off I have a quick question can I please ask okay so if you say take back the right to vote okay cool let's say they do that and they
02:21:34
Multiple Guests (mixed)promise you everything traditional right but then they say by the way because of the way that we've been living under the way things are right now we're under the whole population thing where there's not enough Workforce which is already what
02:21:46
Multiple Guests (mixed)they're saying right so what if they Implement a new law where they say woman have to have four kids five kids six kids even and they write that into law you can't vote on it are you okay with that oh yeah I want like 12 like I want
02:21:58
Multiple Guests (mixed)a huge family and you are okay with all your daughters being forced to have six kids and their daughters being forced to have six kids like you understand that it's not just you being affected it's everyone around you wait you object to
02:22:10
Brian Atlaspeople being forced into something yeah I object to people being forced out hold on what about the draft I'm against the force yeah but you but okay the current
02:22:21
Brian Atlasstate status quo is men are are forced into registering for the selective servants because we already agreed that there has to be a draft by the way the scenario that you outlined would I can't imagine even I don't even think hist
02:22:33
Brian Atlaswould never happen I don't even think historically there's ever been a law that compelled women to have children yeah now it could have been socially and culturally they don't even have in Saudi Arabia yeah they don't even have that in like it was just it was just an example
02:22:46
Multiple Guests (mixed)I just wanted to I just wanted to see where her mind was at she answered it truthfully that that's that it's not an argument thing it's just I wanted to see where she stood with that like she's 100% okay I have a question what if we
02:22:57
Brian Atlaslived in a world that forced men onto the battlefield and they had to die and go in the trenches and get trench foot and get chemical gas what if we Oh you
02:23:07
Brian Atlasmean the current world oh okay okay what if we lived in a world where men created that themselves oh wait we do well actually here let me just rebut what you're saying so they actually did an
02:23:18
Multiple Guests (mixed)analysis of monarchs and actually found that uh queens were much more likely to wage war than Kings yeah queens were also a lot more likely to have success
02:23:27
Multiple Guests (mixed)to Empires so that's one thing okay but that doesn't really it does cuz why did they have you're saying but it's men's fault if I point out something I no I said that thing the war thing I didn't
02:23:40
Multiple Guests (mixed)say everything is men's fault did I I said the war thing who created that what I'm talking about men do you who created War it's not clear to me if men created War so are you argu uing that women are
02:23:51
Brian Atlasactually out of warum is that your argument Bri let's assume that there were no men and there it was just societies of women they could uh what is asexual reprodu I don't know what the term is called paresis you don't think
02:24:02
Multiple Guests (mixed)like differing tribes of women you don't think they would like engage in Warfare 100% I just don't think that they would have the current draft that we have I don't think that you don't think there would be a the this is a very
02:24:15
Multiple Guests (mixed)hypothetical scenario yeah it very much is but I don't think we'd have the current draft scenario that we have if women were the ones out at the front lines there's no men ever no woman wouldn't be choosing let's just send everyone to
02:24:26
Multiple Guests (mixed)war wait so what's the argument what's the argument are you saying women want peace more no he just asked me who started war and I said men oh and I was I didn't ask you that
02:24:38
Multiple Guests (mixed)question you just that manifested out the ether what just happened okay anyways that I had that point I said men started war and you were arguing against that that was that so you're saying that
02:24:49
Brian Atlaswoman if men didn't start War then who did woman it's not clear to me if it's because of gender that Wars occur there's various geopolitical conflicts
02:24:58
Brian Atlasthis is my land no it's my land it's not clear I'm a man I have a peepe i because of this I'm going to go to war with other men because they're met like
02:25:09
Multiple Guests (mixed)that's not the justification or pretext for War I think that the current way that we handle war and that war is is because of one that's how's that I that's just my how's the way we handled
02:25:21
Brian AtlasWar do I like the current political State like the way war is I just feel like that's because of men if you disagree and you say it's because of women that's no I'm not saying it's because of women it's not clear to me if
02:25:32
Brian Atlasit's because of gender or because of sex oh I believe so H I believe so so you think so men engage in Warfare
02:25:41
Brian Atlasbecause men yeah because of our male nature yeah it couldn't be D due to uh Geo geopolitical conflicts this is my land
02:25:54
Multiple Guests (mixed)no that's my land I feel like it could be handled very much other ways than War but because of the way that the war the world already is like we're at a point where the only option is war you can't
02:26:06
Multiple Guests (mixed)have you can't give humans war and atomic bombs and all these things and then expect them to be like actually let's just have peace forever and ever like because you guys already introduced war and all these things and the current political State we're always going to
02:26:18
Multiple Guests (mixed)have war with the way we things right now yeah okay I'm not really hearing an argument though there was no argument I just said that this was because of men you wanted to argue against that so this kind of
02:26:30
Multiple Guests (mixed)prolonged is it because of men or because of human beings yeah that's kind of what I'm getting at well I think it's because of men so if women ran the world what would that look like I honestly don't know but a lot more peaceful than
02:26:41
Charlie Kirkit is right now fre free tampons so that's an interesting question do do do you fight more amongst other women or do you see men fight amongst other male friends um honestly the way things are
02:26:53
Multiple Guests (mixed)handled I see men have a lot more conflicts than women men are more physical but not to say women do women hold grudges more or do men hold grudges more honestly the way I see it in the world you know the answer I can see it
02:27:06
Brian Atlason your face men duke it out faster do men forgive quicker I don't know about that I think it depends on the man but do you hold grudges against other women I don't wait you you were going to say
02:27:17
Brian Atlasactually when it came to The Grudges question what was going to be your statement oh I don't I don't feel like he was asking who holds grudges more I don't know I don't think women
02:27:30
Brian Atlashave to around the table go ahead about who holds gudes huh what was the question you didn't hear what he literally just said 10 seconds
02:27:40
Brian Atlasago [Music]
02:27:47
Multiple Guests (mixed)yeah what do you think I would I wanted to say that there's lots of war in non-humans chimps and lots of animals do War uh and a lot of females we talked about Mama bears
02:27:59
Multiple Guests (mixed)there's very few things more violent than a mama if you come after her babies so I don't think violence is the exclusive Bastion of men I just think because in sexually dimorphic species ones where the male is bigger than the female men are stronger and can do more
02:28:11
Multiple Guests (mixed)damage U they're just bigger but that's not all animals is conflict inherently masculine it's inherently human I agree yeah yeah human yeah yeah would the
02:28:24
Multiple Guests (mixed)world be better run with more of a feminine approach or masculine approach I feel like it needs to be more balanced cuz I cuz I what I mean by that is men aren't just masculine forces whereas
02:28:36
Charlie Kirkwomen aren't just feminine forces they're blend So currently in America is America run in a more feminine way or more masculine way M way right
02:28:47
Multiple Guests (mixed)now H it's kind of hard because even I feel like if you look at most men in America right now they have a lot more femininity than they should like they're not masculine enough so so I don't know
02:28:59
Charlie Kirkso let me ask it differently do you think in America feelings triumphs over reason or does reason triumph over feelings what the former nonsense
02:29:11
Multiple Guests (mixed)feelings over reason right now I feel I think certainly on the internet and it's nonsense and that would be more feminine than it is masculine yeah
02:29:22
Multiple Guests (mixed)okay anyone care to disagree anyone else want to weigh in bring back men even my most Ardent feminist friends bring back men at certain times they they want a man that's in us and uh it's built maybe
02:29:35
Multiple Guests (mixed)there's a time to be sort of a man and there's a time to be what's ascribed as more feminine right when you listen to your wife KET about stuff yes you're
02:29:44
Charlie Kirkkind of that so when Society is more feminine it is so in the traditional nuclear family it is Dad or the male's job to say no to be the rule Giver to
02:29:56
Charlie Kirkput in order and regimen that's not to say that Mom can't but Mom is supposed to be there to be the more empathetic compassionate and we see this time and time again by the way of boys that are
02:30:07
Charlie Kirkraised by just moms very very violent in their trajectory right uh especially if they don't have men around it's just the way it is because they've never had a male figure to tell them no do you guys think in America right now we have a
02:30:20
Charlie Kirkself-control problem I do 100,000% yeah do you think that might be because we have more homes without fathers than homes with fathers
02:30:31
Multiple Guests (mixed)it might even be a product of capitalism I'm going to bring that back you might be because if I can buy it I'm going to buy everything I want to buy Six of these types of sweatshirts rather than just
02:30:42
Charlie Kirkone and that comes back to self-control yeah we definitely do not have willpower or self-control it's actually the two greatest predictors of human success is
02:30:52
Charlie Kirkintelligence and self-control one of those you can control one of those you can did anybody else want to answer question this this Lively chatter here he was asking a
02:31:04
Charlie Kirkquestion okay here I'll help prompt things along then let talk about something like abortion transit or something I can get like people talking I got okay I got something all right come on I guess I got to go about 30
02:31:15
Brian Atlasminutes okay okay perfect uh hard out at like 8:00 p.m. about yeah okay so okay got to get home to my I'm going to make it dating related but related here make it spicy let's get I'll give you
02:31:26
Brian Atlasspicy all right let's got spicy okay would you object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman would I object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman so
02:31:39
Multiple Guests (mixed)a biological man who thinks he's a woman yeah no that's his choice he doesn't want to dat a trans woman no no the same why I wouldn't object to a woman not
02:31:48
Multiple Guests (mixed)dating not wanting a date trans man yeah I agree with
02:31:54
Multiple Guests (mixed)that no no no no no that's his choice if he wants to dat a trans manner all right
02:32:04
Charlie Kirkso let me let me try to spice it up here go ahead what is a woman that's a good that's a good question biologically start tell me go ahead
02:32:15
Brian Atlasuterus cool uterus hormones are there other definitions of women that we should accept it this is an important this is not a silly question this is super it it ties with the other one it ties in with
02:32:27
Multiple Guests (mixed)feminism too yeah sure that's that's the ground that's the fundamental um question importance fundamental yeah important can how about
02:32:39
Multiple Guests (mixed)this way anybody can chime in can someone that doesn't have a uterus that has should should we just go around and let yeah sure what is a woman a woman is someone with the uterus however a uterus
02:32:50
Multiple Guests (mixed)doesn't always Define a woman because for example you can have your uterus surgically removed you're not any less of a woman because of that should should we have them all answered yeah I think so yeah and then if you want to respond
02:33:01
Multiple Guests (mixed)go ahead yeah I believe that a woman has a uter so so that would make me not a woman in essence here let's let the girls answer go ahead no you're asking
02:33:14
Multiple Guests (mixed)if gender and sex are synonyms and that's the big debate if you think the word woman is a synonym for the word female then you would say a woman is has second first and primary and secondary sexual characteristics if you're saying
02:33:26
Multiple Guests (mixed)the words woman and female are not synonyms then you could include like trans people who call themselves women but don't have the first or primary or secondary characteristics of that's the debate
02:33:35
Multiple Guests (mixed)right um anyone with the uterus or I mean biologically it's someone that has XX
02:33:45
Multiple Guests (mixed)chromosomes um yes someone with the uterus XX chromosomes I yeah I think there's men and women there's not really anything in between I
02:33:55
Multiple Guests (mixed)think you need to be born with uterus vagina boobs yes everything well interex is more common than red hair or green eyes it's not true but that's okay it's a good talk 1% right it's not even close but it's a good talking point yeah what
02:34:08
Charlie Kirkis it then because it's not zero it's it's like 0.001% but it is more it is it totally exists yes no I only pick on you for that because if I'm wrong about the but they do exist so we do have people that are that are not male sort of not
02:34:19
Charlie Kirkfemale sort of but it's a deformity right so but they're not choosing to be trying to become of course talking about something so for for example if I was born without a leg it's that's absent of
02:34:30
Charlie Kirkbeing two-legged it doesn't create a new category of something right so and it only interex is xxy so they they're either more female or more male they're usually more female usually but
02:34:42
Charlie Kirksometimes they they cannot have both sex organs AKA they cannot impregnate themselves so there's it's hermaphodite exactly um let me ask it this way does anyone believe that biological men can become a
02:34:58
Multiple Guests (mixed)woman I think people can call themselves unicorns at this point in time if they want to so if that's what they choose to say that's what it is um but becoming a
02:35:10
Charlie Kirkwoman is a very in short no I'm not going to deny trans people as
02:35:18
Charlie Kirkwomen okay so can I pause there so if um as as a woman you're can Womanhood then just be appropriated someone can
02:35:29
Charlie Kirkthen say I am what you are no you said you're not going to deny trans women yeah so Dylan Mulaney MH who's a biological man who thinks he's a Preen
02:35:40
Multiple Guests (mixed)woman is he a woman I feel like I'm just not in the position to tell him he's not a woman if he says if if they say that they are a woman woman I have no you know what I mean I'm not going to be
02:35:52
Charlie Kirklike are you a woman are you a man that's nothing to do with me honestly got it so if I'm 30 if I said I was 12 would you acknowledge that yes I would
02:36:03
Charlie Kirkyou would okay I would acknowledge it as dumb it's dumb so why is it dumb for age but I guess your answer previously yeah but why is it with sex or gender we kind of get really cautious and saying well
02:36:14
Charlie KirkI'm not going to deny it but if I said I was a wolf you would laugh at me if I said I was a giraffe laugh at me but with sex and gender we're like oh you could be whatever you want because it's I don't know honestly
02:36:26
Multiple Guests (mixed)I've been looking at it from different perspectives ever since that issue kind of came up cuz I'm also like I said religious and also believe in the Bible so it's like really conflicting you know but um I feel like I heard this one
02:36:38
Multiple Guests (mixed)thing on it where it was saying that it's almost like I again I'm not saying this is my concrete belief but I just heard this which kind of made me think a little bit more about it and they were saying how it's kind of like a mental
02:36:49
Multiple Guests (mixed)illness like you know how someone could be 30 and they could truly believe they're 12 like those people really exist it's a mental illness yes those people exist you don't deny them that they exist you don't tell them yeah you're 30 like what are you doing with
02:37:02
Multiple Guests (mixed)your life like you acknowledge that it's a mental illness and you treat the person as such great point so if somebody you're in healthcare came to you with and they said I'm anorexic so I think I'm fat MH and they said I want
02:37:14
Charlie Kirklipos suction mhm which means the forcible removal of fat should you give them that surg surgery of course not cuz I would be compromising their actual Health hold on but you just said that we basically that we have to affirm
02:37:26
Multiple Guests (mixed)somebody's mental illness mhm they want lipos section why shouldn't they get it no I didn't I didn't mean to affirm their mental illness as an accept oh you are 12 I'm saying we shouldn't treat
02:37:38
Multiple Guests (mixed)them as in you shouldn't go up to to the 12 the 30 the 30-year oldold who thinks he's 12 which is a thing and you shouldn't cuz like that's how people talk to trans people right they'll go up to them be like haha you think you're a
02:37:48
Multiple Guests (mixed)woman treat them with that disrespect and all that disdain whereas if you see the 30-year-old who's a 12-year-old you don't go up to them telling them that they're 30 you accept that they have a
02:37:59
Charlie Kirkmental illness of course and you you so let's apply it to the trans thing the 30-year-old 12-year-old and the lipos suction thing wouldn't it make more sense to treat the person and say you're
02:38:10
Charlie Kirknot what you think you are rather than affirming the lie that they think there's something else I see I because in the liposuction example and anexia you like no way would we give you forcible removal of fat if
02:38:22
Charlie Kirkyou're anorexic but they'll just go to the next Doctor Who will will they a doctor will not under current medical procedure give liposuction to anorex patient correct but in trans care a
02:38:35
Multiple Guests (mixed)14-year-old can get their breast removed if they think they're another sex if they think it see and that's that's where like it's really complicated cuz it's like if it is a mental illness and if that I'm not saying I 100% concu
02:38:47
Multiple Guests (mixed)believ L but if that's the case then you shouldn't there should be a line of marker cuz it's like you shouldn't let someone who wants to M mutilate their genitalia before their brains even develop I totally agree do that if if it
02:38:59
Multiple Guests (mixed)is a mental inness and it is something that's heavily messing up their brain what if you're on to something so the question is when it comes to trans people why don't we trait their treat their brain instead of their body see I
02:39:12
Multiple Guests (mixed)feel like yeah that's a good really good point that's a really good point I can't really argue against I I also if my even though I accept trans people and I do believe that transom
02:39:23
Charlie Kirkexists I'm not going to deny them of I don't know you're you're you're closer you're just saying that I think you're saying that as a talking listen but if my daughter who is 10 years old tells me mom um like I want or actually let's
02:39:36
Multiple Guests (mixed)make this easier if it's my son that tells me cuz that way he has a genitality that could be cut off right if he tells me Mom I'm not I'm not a boy I'm actually a woman mutilate my genitalia I wouldn't do that okay I
02:39:49
Multiple Guests (mixed)would but so you but you just said but if they turned 18 and they asked me Mom will you consent to me doing this like will you disown me as a child or are you going to accept me as your child as a woman I would accept them as my child no
02:40:01
Charlie Kirkyou're being consistent and at least you acknowledge the adult child distinction which is super important which right now just so we're clear in California as a 14-year-old you can get your breast chopped off hysterectomy is like insane irreversible damage I don't believe that
02:40:13
Charlie Kirkshould be the case it's great and I total I think that's a bipartisan agreement um however it gets back to the question of and I don't know even know if you believe it but you're saying it that you say trans people exist trans people exist okay they exist as human
02:40:26
Charlie Kirkbeings the question is are they objectively the thing they say they
02:40:33
Charlie Kirkare I'm not one to answer that fair enough does anybody have a comment on that I used to call it gender dysphoria right that's what it was in the dsm3 DS sm4 and then the dsm5 which is the
02:40:45
Charlie Kirkdiagnostic statistical manual for psychiatric care in the United States but no very you've been intellectually honest on that and I think it's not a silly question because I'm here with a
02:40:56
Charlie Kirkpanel of women what it means to be a woman is a very serious thing and it's a beautiful thing but it shouldn't be trivialized for somebody that can just appropriate it wear a dress and some makeup and all of a sudden they enter
02:41:08
Multiple Guests (mixed)the club of Womanhood sometimes frustrating what the most Ardent ones think is Womanhood that it's just wearing pink and prancing women are but isn't an insult to women sometimes feels that way to me is like
02:41:20
Charlie Kirkthat's what you think a woman is like we we fly planes and shoot guns we do other stuff too uh complex beings made in the image of God yeah it's like some weird not just a costume it's not like dressing for Cinco Deo or something
02:41:34
Multiple Guests (mixed)right it feels like they're wrapping themselves up in cosplaying Womanhood in a sometimes weird way yeah you brought up Dylan milany and in his first videos like the day one of Womanhood was like well I cried four times and like went into credit card debt and it's like is
02:41:46
Charlie Kirkthat what you think this is thanks yes but they do because because they think that the pro again I don't I don't uh sorry if I'm interrupting Brian but I don't trivialize that some people that are trans are suffering so the question
02:41:59
Charlie Kirkis how do you treat suffering people with the truth so in a medical situation if somebody comes in and you take their diagnosis what they want and you know that there's something better for them then you should lose your license as a doctor it doesn't matter what the
02:42:12
Charlie Kirkpatient wants the doctor should be treating them towards but the the issue is that the new standard of care is no longer to try to bring somebody back back into biological alignment of their birth it's now to try to let them on
02:42:24
Brian Atlaswhatever Journey they might think they're on and especially with youth that is a that's a dangerous trajectory I'm going to switch things up a little bit here we're going to do something I don't think we've really done before uh
02:42:35
Brian Atlaswe're going to do a little tagging in tagging out so this will only be temporary for the last about 20 30 minutes that we have Charlie so I'm going to tag three of you out you're going to stay here just we'll tag you
02:42:47
Brian Atlasback in in 30 minutes or so do you have like Subs is this like a hockey game we're going to sub people in so you guys are going to get tagged out so I'm tagging you you and you out so just you guys can kick it back there for like 30
02:42:58
Brian Atlasminutes you can you know grab a slice of pizza take a little break and then uh other girls tag other people uh in the Harry Potter closet under the stairs he like you just have the cupboard Under
02:43:09
Charlie Kirkthe Stairs women waiting to come here ready to go ready to go binders ready to come binders by the way everybody watching this a book plug
02:43:21
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02:43:32
Brian Atlassure to get it um is it on audio yeah yeah yeah where's the other wait where's the she's there where can you hello did did she not get the M quick sorry I'm here I'm always here hello all right
02:43:45
Brian Atlashello we went to the bathroom all right we tagged in three here we tagged in three so all right welcome guys uh terrible time okay so hi I was wondering
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Brian Atlaswhere you were oh perfect it goes well absolutely it's hard uh I'm gonna put I'm signing it to Heather oh she sign he's signing it to Heather there we
02:44:06
Brian Atlasgo the husband is a fan of his boom beautiful oh nice just the husband for the record there you kidding uh something that I think could be interesting interested about talking
02:44:16
Brian Atlasabout uh is submissive this is related to dating here uh Nick could you find that umbrella picture and I'm curious Charlie if you kind of agree with the this kind of I guess the bi biblical order of like a relationship
02:44:30
Brian AtlasNick do you know what I'm talking about that umbrella picture um so going around the table starting with you do you think when it comes to dating women ought to be submissive to their
02:44:42
Multiple Guests (mixed)partner yes okay generally me men lead men lead women follow okay generally to a degree to a degree no no whatever works for the couple okay I don't care
02:44:53
Brian Atlasdon't care if the man is deserving of it if he's deserving depends yeah absolutely yes the wife should be submissive to the husband n could you pull that photo up real quick okay so
02:45:03
Charlie Kirkyou got Christ husband I believe that wife and you you you agree yes but the key is that the husband must submit to Christ that's that's important is that if the husband fails to submit to Christ then the wife no longer has to submit to
02:45:15
Charlie Kirkthe husband that that's the that's the kicker that is not talked about see never heard of that point when people talk about submissiveness they always say you have to follow the husband as well it's not what the scripture says the scripture says that uh women submit to your husbands as husbands submit to
02:45:28
Charlie KirkChrist see that's a lot more valid and so if the husband fails to submit to Jesus on the throne well then again the entire contract falls apart so if the husband's an alcoholic a drug OCT yeah I mean you have to use Prudence but yes if
02:45:40
Charlie Kirkthe husband is repeatedly defying God's teaching or law if he's being adulterous if he's being abusive then then submission is is violated cuz he's not submitting to Christ that doesn't mean that the husband wants sin but if he
02:45:52
Charlie Kirkmakes a pattern and a repeated defiant form of action then that that would be um that would violate that that um that graphic and that scripture isn't that one of also aa's things is submit
02:46:04
Charlie Kirkyourself to Christ right it's very important in AA to sub AA is the most successful uh model to how to free people from addiction and the reason and
02:46:15
Charlie Kirkit's been they've tried to replicate it is because they they in AA it is a uniquely Christian or geoc Christian thing they have to admit God I think when you're very down about yourself and
02:46:26
Multiple Guests (mixed)and down in your own life it's very easy to accept accept God into your life like otherwise it's a lot harder for other people but when you're experiencing something like addiction it's a very it's it's a lot easier to bring God into into or accept a higher power when
02:46:39
Multiple Guests (mixed)you're you're down on yourself it's like oh this is one I can accept the higher power because you don't want to kind of blame yourself you want to like be like oh it's it's a it's a bigger it's a biger power that's happening but it and
02:46:50
Charlie Kirkand it works because they realize that there is a God and it is not him I'm not him essentially so that there's a higher power now those of the three of you who
02:47:00
Brian Atlaswe tagged in what's up you you've heard Charlie here you've heard and all my hot Tes where were you hiding this whole time Harry Potter cboard in the cupboard
02:47:12
Brian Atlasyeah C did you guys hear anything that you disagree I heard Bron shout out bronzant you said his name wrong dog ronon spel wrong well that has nothing okay did you
02:47:24
Multiple Guests (mixed)hear anything that you disagreed with it was more generally disagreed with the panel it wasn't even him speaking it it was uh about the whole War talk and how men will start wars and all this because
02:47:36
Multiple Guests (mixed)of testosterone or whatever that that was crazy I just don't agree with that it's more of a hold on who's starting Wars well no that it's it's not it's not a gender talk ever it's it is a class
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Multiple Guests (mixed)talk it's it's oh it's okay yeah so it's an argument based off of class rather than gender it's that's why the queen talk comes into play as well where queens start more Wars you so you
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Brian Atlasdisagree with her on that but is there anything you heard Charlie say that you have any to bring up with Charlie that that was the question yes didn't you have a few points let me think about it I remember we were just we were just
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Multiple Guests (mixed)arguing in the in the chat but I don't remember exactly a specific point okay do you remember anything we we were saying a little bit we talk about abortion that's never
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Brian Atlasthat's never never gets old I'll hit it whatever that's fun that's a fun topic isn't it yeah I'm down whenever you want I'm down to hit absolutely I'm down to hit on that let me just just because some of these chats are going to fall
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Multiple Guests (mixed)fall off I'm going to read like three or four of them uh this is going to be complicated can I gra water just really quick oh my what is Diva over here div be we'll get you we'll get you uh just
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Brian Atlashang tight Madison will Madison will get you guys water honey uh sorry guys I'm going to have to I'm going to skip everything I think this is
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Brian Atlasgoing to be difficult sorry guys hold on the I put everything on pause so it's just going to come in like ladies do not say man do not give in this is our chance to
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Brian Atlaspassively aggressively remind men how much we hate them well men are trash and we need to remind them of this every day I stand with the bear wow Christine does anybody here hate men or does anybody
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Brian Atlashere think men are trash okay good to know love them all right sorry guys these are going to come in like Bo for me that I can't lift Jesus uh Mt marriage and family is really
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Brian Atlasimportant but what if a woman feels gay can it be healthy to marry a woman and have for this yeah to have a uh and have a family or should we try to change to not be attracted to women uh I mean I guess you can't change
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TTS Readerthat right I don't know you can still have these days we have a TTS coming in him from donated $300 new question you're in the woods
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TTS Readerand there is a bear do you want a random man for help hint the male lion protects the pride the male chimps protect territory animal Instinct what a great
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Brian Atlasnot because p PE uh really quick so do you want a random man for help sure but I think everybody here said man so Nickelodeon okay everybody
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Multiple Guests (mixed)or well you're you're Bear right you guys
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Multiple Guests (mixed)shut up okay so it's 1 of women are sexually assaulted right u in the US so statistically we should choose man right if it's a random random person mhm yeah that's just you disagree with I'm not
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Multiple Guests (mixed)I'm going to not no it's just a statistic online you don't even have to like I'm a choosing man but that's just a you should choose the four out of I'm not five right it makes sense but that includes that includes verbal I'm just
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Brian Atlasgoing to get through these not the same thing cial hold on hold on hold on holy buzz knucking barrel of monkey it's Charlie Kirk you're a legend and a Pioneer He's a brave and a decent man he's a Pioneer he is he is welcome back
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Brian Atlasladies do yourselves a favor and open your minds to his genius spice it up with a ghost we're trying to get there we're getting there we are getting there yo kill of Serial thank you man uh okay that one's coming through sorry guys we're getting through I'm just trying to
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Brian Atlasget through all of these because a few of them are about to fall off sorry that these didn't come through earlier I just had to pause it just to get through all of them kind of in uh instead of them coming in peace meal I wanted to just
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TTS Readerget them all through out at the uh same time just for the sake of time I'm so glad him not dating donated $300 oh my so black dress say your
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TTS Readerdaughter is 15-year-old hypothetically it's prom at her high school she brings home her date just so happens he's a
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Multiple Guests (mixed)35-year-old man that identifies as 15 quick answer if you can No Object to it what type of question is that well it's cuz you said that any age can identify