Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! HEATED DEBATE With Feminists! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #172

Date: 2024-06-24

Duration: 8h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCharlie Kirk >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_03Shai / Imogen (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_06Serena(guest)

SPEAKER_09Charlie Kirk(guest)

SPEAKER_11TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_14Multiple Guests (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroCharlie Kirk introduction — announces himself as Erica's husband, founder of Turning Point USA, 30yo, 2 kids under 2, book promo week.

“I am Charlie I'm Erica's husband and uh father of two we just had a new baby uh so we have two under two”

Key MomentCharlie Kirk explains three waves of feminism to panel (suffrage, Gloria Steinem/workforce, third wave = any inequity is wrong).

“first wave feminism would be like the Equal Rights Amendment...second wave feminism was like Gloria Steinem...third wave feminism is that any inequity that we see between men or women is inherently wrong”

ControversyHeated debate: should women be drafted into military? Charlie argues men should protect women; panel debates equality vs. protection.

“I would say to reach optimal results if we're speaking on war then yes we should Shield women from the draft”

Key MomentCharlie Kirk describes encountering a Grizzly bear in the wild during Man vs. Bear debate segment.

“I've seen a grizzly bear up close and personal and I've lived right only them that is not fun you don't want to see a grizzly bear”

OtherCharlie Kirk departs the show at ~222 minutes after book promo and panel debate.

“He's a brave and decent man he's a pioneer he's a Pioneer thank you for coming Charlie”

IntroAndrew Wilson joins the show mid-episode, introduces himself as host of The Crucible and political analyst.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible I'm a political analyst”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson interrogates Amy about her 18-year polyamorous dating arrangement, challenging the timeline math and motivations.

“I'm just trying to figure out why how long you were actually with these two guys”

QuoteLeah reveals ex-boyfriend prostituted himself for meth — Brian calls it 'winning the Whatever podcast'.

“he would prostitute himself for math oh that's horrible...he would to men to men”

ControversyAndrew Wilson confronts Imogen about choosing OnlyFans over her Catholic mother's wishes; extended exchange about trusting parental guidance.

“your mom says don't do this...why don't you trust her wisdom”

QuoteAndrew Wilson to Imogen: 'You are one of the most dishonest trolls, you're even bad at trolling.'

“you are one dishonest trolls you're even bad at trolling you're even bad at that”

OtherBody count round: Shai claims 'off the scales, lost count at like 80, past 80'. Imogen claims 0 (disputed by Andrew and audience).

“my body count is off the scales I don't even know I lost count at like 80”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

All 9 female guests and Charlie Kirk introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Followed by relationship status round.

Feminist clip reaction — liberal women wanting traditional men

Brian plays viral clip of liberal woman lamenting that masculine men who provide tend to be conservative. Panel reacts.

Who pays on first date; feminism definitions

Discussion of first date payment norms. Charlie Kirk explains three waves of feminism. Panel debates whether they identify as feminists.

Women in military draft debate

Debate whether women should be subject to military conscription (Selective Service). Charlie Kirk argues men should always pay and shields women from war. Panel offers varied views. Heather makes uterus/repopulation argument.

Birth control, capitalism, wage gap

Brian's previous comments about hormonal birth control affecting women's brains discussed. Charlie expands on it. Discussion of gender wage gap, capitalist systems, and equal pay for equal work.

Man vs. Bear debate

Classic viral debate: would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or a random bear? Shai chooses bear; most others choose man. Charlie Kirk's perspective on bear vs. man.

Would you date a conservative; religious men

Panel discusses whether they would date a conservative or Trumpy man. Charlie recommends religious men. Discussion of finding good men and Catholic faith.

Charlie Kirk departs; Andrew Wilson joins; ratings round

Charlie Kirk leaves at ~222 min. Brief transition, ratings round conducted, Andrew Wilson (The Crucible) joins the panel.

Andrew Wilson debates Amy about polyamorous arrangement

Andrew Wilson interrogates Amy about her 18-year concurrent relationship arrangement with two men, questioning the timeline and motivations.

Extended panel discussions — dating, relationships, social topics

Various topics including dating apps, body counts, OnlyFans, feminism continued. Multiple TTS rating rounds throughout.

Andrew Wilson vs. Australian OnlyFans guests; body counts

Andrew Wilson confronts Imogen about Catholic upbringing vs. OnlyFans career. Questions why she won't trust her mother's advice. Heated back-and-forth. Body count round: Shai claims 80+, Imogen claims 0 (disputed).

End of show roast, wrap-up

Roast section. Andrew Wilson and Shai/Imogen trade insults. Show wraps. Announcement of next stream.

Transcript

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Andrew Wilsonguy so I'm trying to figure out was it 18 years straight no right no okay so then there was a gap so in this Gap does that mean that that those six years that you weren't dating those two guys guys

Andrew Wilsonthat actually is going to lessen the year so you're only really dating these guys for for what 15 years or 14 years repeat yourself what are you talking about you're talking about the

Andrew Wilsonmath yeah I'm just try I'm just trying to figure out why how long you were actually with these two gu well because you said it so I'm just trying to figure it out yeah so yeah 18 in total in the

Andrew Wilsonmiddle there was someone else you got it you can do math 24 right there you go yeah you so you've been dating these guys on and off for 24 years if you include the

Andrew Wilsonoff yeah that's what I'm including is the off I just want to make sure I'm clear yeah happy okay yeah well I mean I'm just I'm just trying to make sense of of the story that's all it's not

Andrew Wilsonconfusing I mean it was kind of confusing right because when you say well I was with these two guys for 18 years right and then but I was dating another guy for 6 years and then I

Andrew Wilsondropped those two guys it is kind of confusing so that that could mean well wait it was 18 years with these two guys but then six years where I wasn't with

Andrew Wilsonthose two guys or it could mean it's 18 years in total but in the center I dropped that off you know what I mean what would be the difference to you one way or the other well if let's assume for a second

Andrew Wilsonthat you started dating these two guys 18 years ago and then in the center of that you yeah I know but I'm just saying that that would be the difference is

Multiple Guests (mixed)let's assume that you did then you would be trying to gotcha me because at one point there would have been three which is not the case but that's what you'd be saying is Well actually for six years there was three no I'm not even saying that there was

Andrew Wilsonthree I'm just trying to make sure that it was actually 18 years that's all I'm trying to make sure of it's odd that you care so much but cool why would it why would it be odd that I'm trying to make sense of the

Andrew Wilsonstory you told because it's super not important I mean I I think it's super important if you're on a dating pod and you're giving a descriptor for the relationships that you're in and then you give the year mark for those

Andrew Wilsonrelationships and then you throw in a curveball I just want to make sure that I'm clear on on what's going on like how would I know if I don't ask you gotcha I'm glad we're clear so okay so but I'm still not clear so I just want to make

Andrew Wilsonsure just want to make sure I get this right so so the grand total the grand scheme of things is like 24 25 years actually that you've been dating those other two guys

Andrew Wilsonno because there were years in between so no that's yeah no no no I I get it but I'm just saying on and off again sure sure okay so

Andrew Wilsonthen at that 24 year mark when after the six years were done how did you approach those dudes and ask them to come back in your life I did not they

Andrew Wilsondid both of them yeah well how did they know people keep in touch so you were talking to them the entire time you in the six-year

Multiple Guests (mixed)relationship no well then what well who contacted who did they like find out through social media or something or did you

Multiple Guests (mixed)tell break find out you you have mutual friends you go out to dinners you do volunteering your people talk right it word gets out yeah I'm just

Andrew Wilsonasking about the particulars there like how did the word get out to them that you no longer dating this guy I'm sure gossip Mill they on or offline didn't ask don't know well who contacted

Multiple Guests (mixed)who don't remember you don't remember if you contacted them I'm sure I didn't I wouldn't have time for that so you think they contacted you fairly sure I don't remember I don't have a lot of time to

Andrew Wilsonreach out to old friends if they if they do I answer okay how far how far spaced apart around the country are these two guys uh next far enough yeah yeah well you don't

Andrew Wilsonhave to give me an exact geographical area I'm just saying are they 1,000 miles are they 500 mil are they really far apart that's all I'm asking far enough and it's not your business well I mean again I'm just

Multiple Guests (mixed)asking for the particulars you don't have to answer I'm just curious thank you I'm not going to okay well then I I guess we can't get anywhere if we can't get into any of the particulars so have you ever been in like a committed just

Multiple Guests (mixed)monogamous relationship with where it's just you and one other man yeah yes and is there anything specific to those relationships that you've been in which is making you want to date two people at

Multiple Guests (mixed)once for the past 18 years what I want to do yeah I'm asking if there's like anything specific that prompted you to do that rather than spend your life with one person not just like oh like because

SerenaI want to do that but like what prompted like what made you want to do that because I want to that's that's the specifics that's all just because you

Andrew Wilsonfeel was like um why do you want that candy bar because I want it okay yeah get you get that you want it you want the candy bar because you want it what she's asking is the underlying like like maybe you like chocolate or maybe

Andrew Wilsonthere's uh you have a sweet tooth or maybe there's some like underlying reason that's all she's asking about I'll I'll think about it and get back to you she felt like it she felt like it

Andrew Wilsonokay yeah do you have any other questions for any other of the guests Andrew no that was also that was really unnecessarily combative like in a strange way sorry I

Andrew Wilsondon't I don't feel like I was asking anything that was way that was like Hardball or anything I was just curious about the story and trying to make sure I got your story correct that's all when I said hello and you said hello to everybody except the pilot then I didn't

Andrew Wilsonlike you anymore I'm sorry that was a great joke it was a great joke this is why women can't be Comics you have no sense of humor every by the way did you realize that every Other Woman at the table laughed at that they were giggling

Andrew Wilsonjust a little bit bit they were like just a little bit except you you know now if everybody had said at the table now let's let's pretend for a second I came in and they're like hello to everybody on the panel except Andrew I

Andrew Wilsonwould have laughed I would have thought that was kind of funny just say it I don't know you seem you seem kind of but hurt about it I was it was just it was just a joke I was just

Multiple Guests (mixed)kidding sorry that was just funny but see see see see that's what people no it's just funny because it's a dating podcast that people don't like to talk about dating

Brian AtlasLiv I'm back what did I miss sorry we're getting a couple things uh they had a little back and forth H okay uh this would be a good time to ask the

Brian Atlasquestion from Stiffler ask everyone to write their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 and you can't pick seven starting with you go ahead 7.4 you can't you can't even can't pick

Multiple Guests (mixed)a seven point you can't I can't no integral it has to be yeah okay eight it's 4 + 4 10 10 okay eight

Brian Atlassix eight wait hold on okay you two switch seats please

Brian Atlasyes okay give your answer first please 10 10 three on a good day four

Brian Atlaseight all right I give myself a five Andrew four four okay so let me ask um you don't mind okay go ahead hold on

Brian Atlashold on hold on uh really quick Nick can you pull up the current viewer numbers I just really quick since I should have done this sooner really quick we're going to do twitch guys go to twitch.tv

Brian Atlaswhatever drop us a follow in the prime sub twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub wow we got 2,000 this is record for us over there on Twitch 2,200 people on Twitch if you're new to

Brian Atlasthe channel drop us a follow if you guys it's been 43 minutes since a prime can you guys test out I think our Prime is bugged I think it's broken can somebody drop that's a new one haven't seen that uh can somebody test out the twitch

Brian AtlasPrime guys I don't know what's going on I think our twitch is bugged twitch.tv whatever we're going to be doing Madison exclusive streams on there so be sure to tune in to those um and uh if you're watching on YouTube oh Nick

Brian Atlascan you pull up the thing in the middle here guys we got 12,600 watching on YouTube 2,000 on Twitch so uh one like the video and then two hop on over to twitch.tv whatever we are going to be

Brian Atlasdoing some really good streams over there too that are not going to be on YouTube so thank you guys really appreciate all the uh support on that now we not yet I'll I'll lower it in a

Andrew Wilsonmoment uh Andrew we were going around the table on the rating thing you had something go ahead yeah yeah I was was going to pick on the pilot a little bit even though you know now it's in good fun right it's in good fun I was just

Andrew Wilsongoing to ask do you think that you're the prettiest girl in the room absolutely not who do you think

Multiple Guests (mixed)is this one in the Hat fac facially in the just face the you I forgot your name appreciate it Madison now she rated herself an eight

Andrew Wilsonthis means that she must disagree with a gal in the black who rated herself as a 10 why would that be well my opinion is only my opinion I know I understand and I'm only asking

Andrew Wilsonabout your opinion since it is that your opinion that Madison over there is the prettiest girl in the room but the girl in the black rated herself as a 10 yes that one you're just looking at why

Andrew Wilsonwould you rate her as lesson Madison what are the features that you would pick out that you think are less good than the features that Madison has I certainly think she's gorgeous as well I don't think there's any other I'm sure

Multiple Guests (mixed)you do I'm you and not Brian either I think you're all pretty um my personal taste I think her long straight hair is really pretty not that yours is bad I just think hers is prettier for me but

Multiple Guests (mixed)whatever they're both they're both hot they're both great that's such a weird question to ask like oh pinpoint what you find PR what's what's a what what is a weird

Andrew Wilsonquestion I I just I just told you what the weird question I think that's a weird question I didn't ask a question I told you but if you do I think whatever future questions you have are weird then

Andrew WilsonI mean the saying it's a weird question is meaningless to me um but perhaps you can tell me instead instead of giving me your emotional state tell me instead what it is that you think is problematic

Multiple Guests (mixed)about the question um I feel like it doesn't really get anyone anywhere she has a certain standard that like just like everyone everyone finds everyone differently attractive that's how D

Multiple Guests (mixed)works that's how attractive new works that's how is so why would seem like it's a stupid question explain I agree with you what exactly like where does that get you well so let me explain if you and I

Multiple Guests (mixed)agree like it's just a really odd question to ask you know I thought you wanted an explanation no I didn't I just wanted to let you know you don't want an explanation just want to vent you just want to vent your emotions okay well go

Andrew Wilsonahead and vent your emotions I'll wait I did miss this guy oh okay well then I'll give you the explanation I the explanation is is that if it's if it is a if it is a subjective standard and

Andrew Wilsoneach individual has a subjective standard and I agree that they must uh then when you're rating when each individual is rating themselves it it occurs to me that it could be possible

Andrew Wilsonthat they're not telling the truth about their rating and one of the ways that I found that I can test that is by simply asking them to rate the person next to them as it turns out suddenly they have

Andrew Wilsona much more objective standard as to what beauty is than when they're rating themselves so it's possible that their subjective Q they're not being honest with it so that's that's why I asked the

Andrew Wilsonquestion does that make sense it does yeah so I guess it's not a weird question after all

Brian Atlasall right all right so you're a 10 and then you two gave yourselves a 10 is that correct yeah yeah into the mic please so uh do you have lip filler yes do you

Brian Atlashave lip filler yeah have you guys had any other cosmetic procedures done no just the lip filler yes okay were you attend before the lip filler always you

Brian Atlastoo yeah it didn't make that much of a difference to be honest yeah but if you were 10 before the lip filler why get the lip filler because I had one un

Brian Atlassymmetrical lip so you weren't a 10 then no I was a 10 well you just stated you were not perfect in some Dimension yeah

Shai / Imogen (mixed)okay but that just made me 11 the lip filler made you 11 so you went over the the rating scale yeah I don't know if math works that way but so yeah so let

Andrew Wilsonus pretend for a second that 10 means perfect absolutely flawless every single Dimension you can think of everyone by

Andrew Wilsonbeauty brains whatever it is right you're a perfect 10 that means Flawless if you were to work on something you considered a flaw then how could you logically also think you were

Multiple Guests (mixed)a 10 because flaw are still like beautiful like everyone's got flaw everyone's got then why change them because you feel like it sometimes

Multiple Guests (mixed)oh you feel like it it's not because it's a flaw no I mean okay so then it's not a flaw so then why do anything about it it makes no sense I mean it's because some flaws actually do make you less or more confident regardless of the fact so

Multiple Guests (mixed)if you know that one of your certain flaws will make you more confident if it's no longer a flaw then you might want to change it even if it's temporary like filler like they don't have to have filler for the rest of their lives it's

Andrew Wilsonsuch a temporary thing okay I agree with you so I think that your argument here makes sense you can have flaws which can increase your confidence and you can have flaws which um you know do other

Multiple Guests (mixed)things for you but then you consider them flaws if you fix them right I consider them flaws either way but like said you can so then perfect if perfect

Multiple Guests (mixed)means absence of any flaw which is what it means then how can you be a 10 and perfect if you have a flaw that you need to fix because if you're using that skill

Multiple Guests (mixed)of 10 perfect there's no one human that's perfect without any single flaw so why even have that be an option you know what I mean so since it is you don't think that there's any people who

Multiple Guests (mixed)who have like a perfect Beauty standard no there's definitely people who fall into the perfect Beauty standard but even them will themselves tell you that they have some flaws they can name them some maybe but maybe some won't right

Andrew WilsonI'm not going to just concede that all people who you would consider a 10 would say that they're Flawless but let's ask this then maybe assuming that now you all know that 10 means perfect without

Andrew Wilsonflaw how would you rate yourselves then going back around the table you do you only want answers from the girls who said 10 no just all of

Andrew Wilsonthem that 10 means Flawless without flaw that's what perfect is how would youate yourself then I'm a zero I have so many flaws what do you mean

Multiple Guests (mixed)okay honestly I don't know that's such a hard question I don't know if to say n or also say zero it's like I don't know like how do you rate your flaws in that way you

Shai / Imogen (mixed)know like a six to eight same six um I always tries to say I always try to stay confident so I try to you

Andrew Wilsonknow embrace my looks and whatnot but I'm whatever you want me to be what does that mean like I'm I'm just looking for a self assessment if 10 meant Flawless if 10 means flaw from a

Andrew Wilsonbeauty perspective not personality nothing else just pure beauty yeah where what would you rate yourself would you say 10 Flawless nothing needs to ever be

Andrew Wilsonchanged or some other standard I haven't planned on changing anything so so I don't need to yeah so you're Flawless yeah I'm Flawless so there's nobody so

Shai / Imogen (mixed)then I just want to make sure I I understand this correctly there's nobody in that room who's prettier than you I mean the these beautiful women next to me are stunning like I love their looks they all suit their looks I know I know

Andrew Wilsonyou love them but but but if you're without flaw and you're the standard of flawless can be no woman there who's prettier than you right I write everybody in here a 10 that's see it but

Multiple Guests (mixed)don't you agree that all of you look different yeah then how can all of you be without flaw would you rate a 10 who has an ugly personality of 10 yeah I'm just talking about strictly beauty

Andrew Wilsonstandards that's it I mean but not what's on the inside what's external not what's internal but what what's on the inside oo is on the outside so we can't just have like a one let's assume for a second I'm just walking down the street I don't know anything about you I'm just

Andrew Wilsonlooking at the externals I'm not looking at the internals I can't talk I'm not talking to you I don't know anything about you I'm just purely looking at the visual aesthetic that's all I'm after

Andrew Wilsonhere from the visual aesthetic of 10 being perfect and everything below that not being perfect what would your self assessment then be

Andrew Wilsonwhy well because because again I think that often uh people can be very dishonest especially women I'm not going to lie they they can be very dishonest about their actual self assessment of

Andrew Wilsontheir own Beauty standard and so often what they'll do is they'll all claim that they're tens but then when we get into what is Flawless and what is not they quickly change their assessment when they have to point in another girls being prettier not as pretty as them you

Andrew Wilsoncan tell pretty quickly that not exactly telling you the truth okay can you move your does that I mean does that make sense sure my way off Bay no the what

Andrew Wilsonwhat did you want SC it this way got edge of the go ahead got you no that makes perfect sense yeah that's all that's all I'm asking for same thing that um same thing that we answered

Andrew Wilsonright we're just looking at the aesthetic there was a a 10 who was a perfect man right like the perfect aesthetic of the most beautiful man on planet Earth I'm definitely way below

Andrew Wilsonwhatever that threshold is so that's all I'm asking here right that's all I'm asking here is the same thing so she says that no she's without any flaw however every woman in there must then

Andrew Wilsonbe also without flaw because she's not the prettiest girl there do you think that that's honest doesn't that sound somewhat dishonest to

Andrew Wilsonyou I don't care yeah I know you don't care but love that the answer to the question is does it sound dishonest to it yeah but that doesn't make her like a liar that's

Andrew Wilsonshe's not Li I'm not saying it I well dishonest doesn't it though I mean if it sounds dishonest to you like that means not telling the truth what would you call that besides a

Andrew Wilsonliar an exaggerator oh okay fair enough I'll Grant exag eration uh maybe hyperbole right maybe we'll just go with hyperbole we'll go with

Andrew WilsonHyper okay so she's being hyperbolic when she says a 10 so that means from your assessment not a 10 right she's not a 10 cuz you I mean you're not without

Andrew Wilsonhyperbole without hyperbole or exaggeration is your assessment she's attend I'm not an aesthetician nor do I do medical assessment on people's ratios

Andrew Wilsonon their face I'm just asking for subjective opinion that's it I think if she feels like a 10 she's a 10 good for her yeah I know but but from your subjective opinion of the aesthetic of

Multiple Guests (mixed)what you see so so my my perception of beauty is a little bit different in terms of I would rather hear what a person has to say and then I can determine whether or not they're pretty or not yeah I know but assuming you

Andrew Wilsoncan't hear what she has to say you can just look visually and that's it what's the assessment there t that's the assessment then is a 10 so then every woman in there is a 10

Andrew Wilsonincluding you or are you saying you're less pretty than she is I didn't say that well then is every woman there a 10 sure okay so then why didn't you rate

Multiple Guests (mixed)yourself a 10 um cuz I didn't feel like it so so you were just being dishonest um no I was just being very honest and vulnerable in the moment of

Andrew Wilsonmy honesty what what we can move on from the question but I just wanted to kind of get that out there you can see why from my

Andrew Wilsonperspective it would seem like a lot of women might be dishonest about this and when put to the question it turns out they have wildly different answers than the ones they actually gave initially just saying just saying just saying just

Brian Atlassaying all right um so still I don't know if there's been any adjustments still 10 10 10 but I'll keep myself that's literally a

Shai / Imogen (mixed)question that just was asked still yeah sure I mean a tell of you myself myself you guys are entitled to entitled to your own opinions like if you want to knock my confident boost then go for it

Andrew WilsonI don't really care and I don't take that into consideration still 10 yeah but just so you know um the the intent here is not to make you less confident or to in some way insult you that's

Andrew Wilsonthat's the opposite of the intent in fact the in is just to see if if when we're talking or discussing this if you can have a realistic perspective or

Multiple Guests (mixed)not okay end of discussion oh my God wait are you really that what I just want to overend D me I don't believe

Multiple Guests (mixed)let's all just rate ourselves once and then you'll be happy why don't you rate US why don't you go around the table and rate US I mean question for you I wrate myself so for you this I mean do you think there's some degree of

Brian Atlasdo you think beauty is at least to some degree objective no it's purely subjective yeah I think that everybody like do you think

Andrew Wilsonyou're goad I reckon by the your confidence you're automatically a 10 I reckon everybody in this room is a 10 I think okay so so if a woman has a big

Andrew Wilsonhump on her back and she's 90 years old and she's decrepit and she answers the door and goes you want all right that's a 10 really because she's confident I just want I just want to hear your

Andrew Wilsonhonest answer she has a hunch on her back she has a unibrow she's she's she's bald she's literally bald from ageit that's a 10 from your perspect I just want to make sure I got that clear I

Andrew Wilsonthink my 102 year old grandma cauliflower is a 10 yes yeah yeah yeah and you're being honest right yeah I'm being there's no reason for us to in any way doubt that you are being honest with

Shai / Imogen (mixed)us that you actually would think that okay well I wouldn't rate anyone lower than a 10 like I I didn't I didn't see why well then it means nothing then Perfection means nothing your opinion is

Andrew Wilsona one if everybody is perfect then guess what then I'm a 20 I'm a 25 in fact in fact I'm the most handsome man who's ever lived on the face of the Earth

Andrew Wilsonbecause Perfection means nothing there is no perfect everybody's a 10 yes yeah okay so tell me I'm the most handsome man alive yes you are but you yeah I

Andrew Wilsonknow I knew it I knew I would your opinion is a one very very kind of you yes but your opinion is a one you're you're handsome you are handsome no no no no I'm the most handsome man who is

Andrew Wilsonin existence yeah I'm perfect I'm without flaw yeah I'd get on my knee and propose to you you are yeah you are I knew I knew I knew that you were so but hang on

Andrew WilsonBrian's also a 10 and perfect right yeah he's a 10 too yeah he's a 10 and perfect in fact there no man you could think of who's not the most gorgeous man you've ever seen right what there's not a

Andrew Wilsonsingle man alive who's not the most gorgeous man you've ever seen right yeah that's right yeah have you sometimes my type is very questionable too so have you ever turned a man down wanted to date you H because because you didn't

Andrew Wilsonthink he was good-looking enough no I actually never have never never I swear the ugliest men on planet Earth who ask you out you're going to go out with them yeah I would so that he has like oh okay

Andrew Wilsonyeah so so Andrew why do you question the honesty of some of these wh well case in point that's why come on really

Andrew WilsonNick lower the volume it's peeking um really what I wasn't even listening what you you weren't listening I I was saying that you've never turned a man down

Shai / Imogen (mixed)because he wasn't handsome enough for you I mean I've actually never even like I don't even talk to many boys so I haven't even be not like asked on a date so would you turn a man down cuz he wasn't handsome enough for you no I

Andrew Wilsonactually wouldn't now so if a 95 geriatric humpback with unibrows man came over to you with a filled up diaper and he was wearing the pens and said would you like to go out with me you

Andrew Wilsonwould say yes right I mean I guess so I guess whatever you want total honesty from the women on this panel okay thank you appreciate it yeah whatever whatever you want to hear oh later later later

Brian Atlasbut thank you for reminding me on that I'll write down um man uh you know what let's do the Louis

Brian AtlasGuzman and the Francis what's his Francisco lowski or whatever let's do comparison really quick uh if you can get those pulled up Nick I'll pull up these chats while we're waiting thank

Brian Atlasyou guys Luis Guzman and then franisco low Francisco lowski or something all right thank you Eric Greg

Brian Atlasthank you if everyone is a 10 then no one is a 10 guys we did lower the TTS and re to it's 100 for re TTS is now 200 we lowered it now so if you want get

TTS Readersome in boys let me know when you have that Nick I'm going to trigger this LOL paladins donated $200 41y old man I've had 300 plus six

TTS ReaderPartners but only six relationships I would love to have another relationship but it's hard to find a woman worth it even I would not date

Brian Atlasgirl good for you l paladins did we just lose Andrew

Brian Atlasum do you have it ready Nick okay all right we're going to show you two

Brian Atlasmen uh should we go to the yeah I don't know why it's not why it's hiding Andrew it's not a huge

Brian Atlasthing uh okay so this is Lis Guzman okay um actor famous actor scroll down a little bit let's see some of those other photos okay all right pull up the other

Brian Atlasguy and this is Francisco lowski male model um are you prepared to state that they

Brian Atlasequivalent physical attractiveness yeah okay you're ridiculous then okay they're both just as attractive yeah actually

Shai / Imogen (mixed)like honestly I find the first guy more attractive because the one the one that the second one looks too nice yeah lowy yeah he looks

Brian Atlasto he looks too little r around Ed okay so hold on so okay here's the question I'll last the whole panel would you prefer to date guy number like to date

Brian AtlasMary and have children with date Mary have children with guy number one or guy number two go ahead depends on his personality but let's assume they both have good personalities let's assume they're both

Multiple Guests (mixed)not psychotic yeah let's just assume they both have good personalities I okay then both I don't know okay one fine number one let me ask you a question how would you feel if you didn't eat

Multiple Guests (mixed)breakfast this morning um like I'd have low blood sugar and hungry and tired okay you got to pick one you got to pick one

Multiple Guests (mixed)okay I I didn't get the point for that yeah I'm moving on it's all good sure one you got to pick one you pick the first guy yeah sure yeah sure or the second it doesn't matter to me like it

Multiple Guests (mixed)doesn't matter you have no preferences when it comes to looks when it comes to physicality no it's like they could be obese let me can they be obese no because then you're not taking care of your body and your health and so the

Multiple Guests (mixed)first guy the first guy he's not he's not obese but he is chunk fat right he's he's a little chunky okay that's you okay obese is the overstatement then

Brian Atlascuz that man is not obese he's one yeah he's not he's not obese but he's chunky yeah we can manage his glucose intake what about you um I'm not really

Andrew Wilsonattracted to men at the moment so if you you've dated men before though like that's that's fair that's fair what about really really really fat women would you date one of them m can

Multiple Guests (mixed)you scoot your mic this way and Scoot into the table please well um no because my type is woman who look like me so okay so then

Multiple Guests (mixed)there's there's some standards some beauty standards that you have then yeah I'm not saying that that I that I wouldn't find her attractive but I wouldn't want to date her because my

Multiple Guests (mixed)type is you know all right which do you pick one you you pick one you pick the first guy the the first guy Luis gu

Multiple Guests (mixed)yeah I agree with that I don't think that the second guy is attractive at all yeah I'm sorry you don't think the second guy is attractive he looks like

Serenayeah he kind of looks like a lady boy like not that I'm against them but that's not why he's perfect right can I ask like someone that you guys think is really attractive so we can have

Serenasomething to compare it to okay well um who who Michael B Jordan Michael be Jordan for you too yeah wait can you scoot your mic

Brian Atlasthis way please I honestly don't even have any celebrity crushes to like share with you right now the amount of cope the amount of cope that's going on you are crazy men are more visual

Multiple Guests (mixed)anyways like women that's why we're more about feelings and how yeah assume both of those men will give you good feelings okay whatever your answer to the question

Multiple Guests (mixed)I I was getting a drink forgive me no you saw the two guys oh which one which of the two guys would you rather date Mary have kids with one of them looks way too young for me okay assuming age him forward a bit how about that yeah

Multiple Guests (mixed)he's you physically the model is better looking that's why he's a model um I don't know how cool or fun or nice or all that the others are so I'd I'd have to meet them and see about personality uhhuh but but physically the model is

Brian Atlasbetter looking which would you rather date number one number two there we go I I want to congratulate you for not going along

Multiple Guests (mixed)with the herd not going along with the Sheep mentality here go ahead um number one number one number two kind of look

Multiple Guests (mixed)like a boy and I want a man yeah that's so true what if I told you he's uh I think that guy's 31 32 yeah but he's still has like a boy mentality yeah okay you don't know anything about his

Multiple Guests (mixed)mentality assume they're like the same personality wise just look different I look like I weigh more than him and I think I do number I I'll give you number two was more attractive for sure but

Multiple Guests (mixed)number one like okay fair enough what about you I would go with number one because I've dated guys that looked like number two Let me give you my reason I have dated guys that looked like number

Multiple Guests (mixed)two before and number two I much prefer like the dad bod I don't know guys guys on the muscles are are too hard to lay

TTS Readeron two for the soldiers show hands paladins donated $100 what the hell if he slid into any of their DM they' love to hit it no problem saying the model

TTS Readerisn't hot his ego protection because they assume they'd be rejected that's a uh sorry there's a mix up there he making a living out of La paladins appreciate it man I also am not

Brian Atlasa h fan that guys two I didn't I didn't look I don't know what they look like okay sucks sucks be suck a lot indeed it does uh what were

Brian Atlasyou saying I'm also not a huge fan of white guys what's your pref preference black is your husband black okay cool he

Multiple Guests (mixed)is was your ex-husband black Mexican you ever dated a white guy a couple I mean I I did go I did go to school in West

Brian AtlasTexas so there's a lot of white there were a lot of white guys oh okay all right well I don't know if we're going to figure anything out with the whole rating thing

Multiple Guests (mixed)um what would you prefer what do you mean if I was gay yeah if I was gay no like seriously think about actually want to know for one you'd be a

Multiple Guests (mixed)top and for the other you'd be a bottom I feel like you pick number one to be honest I'm just not I'm not answering this question that's why not I ain't answering that question that's crazy so

Shai / Imogen (mixed)curious to see what you and Andrew would rate US like what do you think is more attractive like you don't have to be gay but like you have what you want your son I feel like number one cuz he kind of looks like

Andrew WilsonDrake he feels a bit older I think that's totally fair you really want me to do a rating I'll do one uh as long as the counter is true too let's start with you guys go around do rating on me and

Brian Atlasthen I'll go around do rating on you that seems fair God quickly to answer so quickly to answer your thing though like just objectively yeah number two is more physically attractive really yes I can objectively look at different men and

Multiple Guests (mixed)make assessments about this guy's more attractive than this guy you could be a casting director for that seriously yeah yeah that's why he made a living out of it but also when you're dating model types they're I mean one they're workout

Multiple Guests (mixed)obsessed and two like they don't let you order what you want to at dinner what which is good right uh personal so I don't know if we get into that but you

Brian Atlaswere suggesting that you wanted the guys to rate all the girls yeah to see what your perspective was I don't make it habit to do that I would only do it if the girls were fine

Brian Atlaswith us raing them otherwise I'm not going to do it so I'm just going to leave that to the girls I don't care we beat this horse dead so yeah go ahead you can opt out if you want do you

Brian Atlaswant to opt out do you want to opt out out oh sure fine yeah you can write me fine fine I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to grow I'm sorry I couldn't hear you yeah I don't care you're fine with being raid okay yeah I'm fine you're fine with being raid fine with it fine with it fine with it so it's just is it just you who's opting out oh no like I'm

Brian Atlasfine with it she said she's fine with being ra oh okay yeah all right uh do you guys want to rate Andrew first I think he he wanted to be rated first

Multiple Guests (mixed)first I think you're an eight can we still not say seven yeah eight I think you could say seven

Multiple Guests (mixed)okay oh six seven I think you're a 10 but your opinions are just not valid okay um given that we're like not the

Multiple Guests (mixed)same age and you're not someone who I'd go for probably like a five a 10 for sure five say like a four yeah I agree with

Andrew Wilsonyour own self assessment okay go ahead Andrew um so I'll start from right to

Andrew Wilsonleft and I'll do it for my own subjective kind of uh Viewpoint so I

Andrew Wilsonwould say 3 2 5 2 two two two two

Shai / Imogen (mixed)one that was so hot starting here right y that made me like you even more I know I'm so attracted to you now yeah that

Andrew Wilsonyou now that you rated me a two it just made me so much more attracted to you so she turned on I mean if we're going to just troll then let's just troll I love her I think

Multiple Guests (mixed)she's so serious no like I'm actually serious I love men that don't like I'm actually Ser I'm actually serious I'm so serious I I you know what

Andrew WilsonI need a diamond ring can you go buy one for me can you get on that yeah I would never get on my KNE if I send a PayPal account will you send me some money who are you talking to you oh you're talking

Andrew Wilsonto me do you want money yeah I'm a 10 I'm beautiful I'm gorgeous I'm everything you ever wanted in a man if I send you my payp account you send me some money here I'll send it to you what's your what I just want to make

Andrew Wilsonsure you're going to send me some cash ready I'll send you 0.1 cents oh got it that it doesn't sound like you're as

Brian Atlasinto to me as you at first kind of alluded to it seems like perhaps your trolling has um backfired here a bit backfired backfired okay uh and I don't

Brian Atlasreally feel like rating the girls I'll just say those of you who said your tens or not tens I'll just leave it there what do you write yourself uh five why do you right so five uh let's see need

Brian Atlasto lose some weight I got I'm rocking a dadbod right now not perfect skin not perfect facial symmetry um there's probably I could articulate it further but yeah I can you

Multiple Guests (mixed)have great hair it's starting to go you need a fade you're fine fade I should what you should get a fade it look good a fade

Brian Atlas[Laughter] yeah we need a seat booster for Madison I'm going to grab one CU I'm going to go bathroom okay perfect all right let me read a chat we have killer of cereal killer of cereal would the cine Chapel

Brian Atlaslook just as good if it was covered in spray paint tags and littered with garbage a picturesque City looks same with Heroin addicted homeless intense question mark a 10 is a 10 dulu lemon

Brian Atlasdulu dulu delusional thank you for kill of cereal appreciate it man thank you for your uh message there appreciate it well thank you Stiffler for that question we're going to go into some of

Brian Atlasthe pre-show notes here so let's get right into the pre-show notes hold on just one moment here while I just check over a couple things you studied who was the one who studied so sociology is it

Brian Atlasyou yeah is it you actually wait I did have a question hold on uh actually I'll wait till Madison's back for that

Brian Atlasone so starting with imoen imoen IMO imoen eima what yeah that that thing all

Brian Atlasright so you said that you uh you disagree on people not accepting sex work and judging us for it yeah okay

Multiple Guests (mixed)uh so you disagree that people don't accept sex work I mean everyone has their own opinion but like does mean that you have to like say it out loud

Brian Atlassometimes kind of thing mhm okay and you object to people judging you for it too yeah but like I don't really give a either like say what you want to say

Brian Atlasokay I'm Che I don't really care okay do you object to men let's say a man doesn't judge a woman necessarily but would you object to a man refusing to

Multiple Guests (mixed)date a woman because she does sex work I mean it's like that's like your opinion like would you object toan I think it's stupid but I think it's

Multiple Guests (mixed)stupid yeah but like do you think it's insecure like a guy who wouldn't date a sex worker it's probably because he's I think it could be that but also because he doesn't really want a girlfriend that's

Multiple Guests (mixed)going to be like online and like naked and stuff which I do get that side as well but yeah okay what about you do you

Brian Atlasagree um yeah I feel like any man that loves you will love you no matter what so if he want to so okay the question is do you object to men who would not who

Brian Atlasrefused to date a woman who's a sex worker oh no no objection there uh you're sex worker too uh do you have any huh people should date who they want if

Brian Atlashe doesn't want to cool okay no objections okay uh you're not this you do only fans or no no okay all right let's see moving on to

Brian AtlasShai um you had an Instagram story that I thought was interesting you said you have an Instagram highlight that says come see why my family hates

Shai / Imogen (mixed)me that's just like like pardon no I didn't post that I had like managers on my Instagram running my accounts like i r my only fans account but I had managers on there and they

Shai / Imogen (mixed)were just trying to get traction like viewers to the story to go and subscribe to my only fans at the very start family yeah no it no my family actually like don't care what I do like they have an

Shai / Imogen (mixed)opinion but like they know if they were to diss me for it then I'd still do it anyway okay yeah and your father totally cool

Multiple Guests (mixed)with it yeah father totally cool with it I mean not really not really no but what did she say pardon what what I mean at the start obviously they were upset but

Multiple Guests (mixed)then again like I'm an adult and I can do what they want obviously they're not happy about it and they're not going to like tell me like oh yeah like do it but

Brian Atlasyeah not happy about it but yeah all right we have Leia well Leah Welsh Leah Leah Leah I'm looking to

Brian Atlasone day get married actually I'll come back to that in a little bit later uh let's see hold on Caitlyn uh you said the only unique

Brian Atlasstory I have is that I go to UCR and you're dating a guy from UC Riverside and your parents who are happily married also met at UC Riverside okay you said that you think dating in

Brian Atlasthis generation is hard because it's really hard to find genuine people nowadays and you think it's that's on both sides both men and women they're hard to find genuine people yes mhm so what's like an example of somebody not being

Multiple Guests (mixed)genuine I mean somebody's who's using you for I don't know sex M that's

Multiple Guests (mixed)disingenuine somebody who is not loyal to you that's also dis in genuine so mhm okay okay is wearing makeup

Brian Atlasdisingenuine no like it doesn't change your physical appearance at all I mean I think it enhances it it doesn't change it any or

Brian Atlasat all or nothing I think certain types of makeup can change okay just qu I know a lot of people I sent I showed you the two

Brian Atlasphotos of those two different men uh would you feel deceived for example if a guy you thought a guy had a full head of hair but he actually wears a

Multiple Guests (mixed)toupe would you feel deceived at all no I like bold men only if he's like hey this is my real real hair yeah like keep if you guys are like 6 months in and he's never once shown you the toue and

Multiple Guests (mixed)you find it out I would honestly be a little hurt but like if he starts off the date by like look at my toue he'd be like okay that's cute I mean but at 6 months like if you didn't notice the toupe

Brian Atlasyeah that's very true okay so you guys I mean when it comes to the makeup thing you guys don't think like makeup can be uh disingenuine no no never it's like a beard how is it like a beard you shave

Shai / Imogen (mixed)some men will shave off their beard and they completely different person for example I was looking at your Instagram account before I came and I seen you with that a beard you actually look so different yeah yeah I look different and

Shai / Imogen (mixed)without a beard yeah you look like a baby but now you look like a grown man mhm okay yeah so it is kind of like makeup you're hiding your face a little bit I feel like that

Brian Atlaspicture was really long for too what's that like you were a lot younger or yeah a lot of those a lot of my uh hold on Nick I'm going to send you something I'm going to show you two I'm going to show you guys two comparison photos Nick

Brian Atlasyou're going to have to open image new tab on both of those photos uh I'm going to show you two photos before after makeup actually we have a bunch of tabs open still for the makeup stuff right Nick

Brian AtlasP pull up the one I just sent you too please if you can is it still kicking Andrew off for some reason it's not a big deal but so you're going to have to

Brian Atlaslike open image and new tab on both of those let me know know if you see both yeah I see okay get those pulled up also this one came through grid two goes did I read this one the ladies who rate

Brian Atlasthemselves a 10 are lying to themselves because their Embrace of pride has prevented them from being honest they are saying confident what they really mean is self-deception okay Grid 2 go go-kart

Brian AtlasSports thank you bro appreciate it it seems to not BL them up in the way we want them uh it's showing the Reddit thing that's fine if it's showing the Reddit at the top yeah it's just

SPEAKER_13it's hard to even see it I'll show you okay f11 make sure it's f11 though oh that's strange I tried hold on I might have to

Brian Atlassave it uh yeah just save the images to uh file and then just get them pulled up uh so we are going to show you guys two different images guys go to twitch.tv whatever and drop us a follow in the

Brian Atlasprime sub if you have one and Nick try to get those as quickly as you can please uh so twitch.tv whatever also speaking of that

Brian Atlaswe did lower the read and TTS Trier re is 100 and up TTS is 200 and up if you want get some in we'll we'll uh get

Brian Atlasthose pulled up momentarily like I said twitch.tv/ whatever and uh that thank you do you have them almost sorry guys one moment pulling up

Brian Atlassome photos and then remind me Nick we'll go through the other ones too okay we'll just go through all of

Brian Atlasthem sorry guys still it's still bad just oh my God okay let's just do the other ones just

Brian Atlasdo the other ones then I don't know why doing that but it's annoying oh well go ahead I'll look we might have them in the drops just pull up pull up the other

Brian Atlasones uh so is this just like enhancing that's yeah that's surely AI M okay well let's assume you could achieve this and I think you can achieve this through

Multiple Guests (mixed)makeup you don't think this is deceptive at all no you can clearly tell she's like really beautiful even on the far right picture yeah but it's and her lips are different like her lips are different shape on the AI oh that's true

Multiple Guests (mixed)she doesn't have the Cupid's bow anymore the nose is smaller yeah and her face is like blurred I think she's really pretty on the right side though next one Nick like AI wasn't even needed okay her nose is

Shai / Imogen (mixed)totally different um I mean that could be Che through makeup is that even the same person it's not she has contacts she's contouring yeah why is she in the same top but where did her earrings go

Brian Atlasshe has been eyes now how did her eyelids up here yeah you can use like like real pictures not that's not ey this is a real picture here um this is a

Multiple Guests (mixed)real picture I don't believe so I actually her makeup but she look she she looks beat up for sure but like the rude you should show the video of the

Andrew Wilsonold lady n n she doesn't look beat up she's a 10 remember rude definitely 10

Multiple Guests (mixed)next okay that was a good one she look pretty yeah yeah she looks gorgeous after next that one's really good too yeah

Multiple Guests (mixed)good whoever's the makeup artist yeah I was just about to say better next like her before uh we can play this

Brian Atlasit what the oh okay next is it there is there

Brian Atlasnext oh okay all right there you go okay all right not deceptive at all not disingenuine at all no cuz you can just wipe it off it's not like there for life

Multiple Guests (mixed)okay I feel like the most deceptive part was the AI in the Photoshop which it could have been done by the person who got the picture or it could have been done by the person who posted the picture who knows doesn't really make a difference but I feel like that's the

Brian Atlasmost deceptive part okay so you guys don't think makeup changes somebody's physical appearance for the better enhances it for sure right so

Brian Atlasthey're more attractive then yeah okay so you're changing your physical appearance that's not how you genuinely look is a blank canvas ugly before the

Multiple Guests (mixed)painting that's not what I'm arguing I'm just saying is it disingenuine to like blast filters blast makeup Etc but to who this genuine to yourself to your

Brian Atlaspartner to God yeah this is so within a dating context if you go on any dating app and you like look at the women first pH filter you shouldn't have any their first photo filter makeup they might not

Multiple Guests (mixed)even have one singular photo that's why I disagreed with the fact that Ai and the filter in the Photoshop that is deceptive cuz you wouldn't even if you're using a picture from 10 years ago that's decep you should be using current

Multiple Guests (mixed)pictures of what you look like and what you yeah present yourself as that's it if you look like that on a day-by-day basis if you do bridal makeup every single day then why would you not post a picture of your bridal makeup cuz then

Multiple Guests (mixed)you're going to if you post a picture of you with no makeup and then the guy's like oh my God you're so beautiful sees you in person with bridal makeup he's going to be like what the hell yeah who is this yeah so what's really more

Multiple Guests (mixed)deceptive between what it's about presentation what's more deceptive between what did you just hear what I said I said posting the picture of what you genuinely look like on a day-by-day basis or posting the picture that like

Multiple Guests (mixed)you said your bare face if you wear the bridal makeup every single day so you're saying you would be more deceptive to post a picture of you without makeup if you wear makeup every day yeah because you that's what you

Multiple Guests (mixed)actually look like no but if you wear makeup every day that's what you present yourself like so why would you want a woman tell showing you that this is what she looks like you find her beautiful but then every day every day then she's

Multiple Guests (mixed)doing a deception every single day yeah but like why wouldn't you want to see that from the start if you don't believe it's deceptive then I'll make a deal with all

Andrew Wilsonof the women at the table who think that a beard like this is just as deceptive as the makeup which is worn I will right this second go upstairs and shave this beard off if you if you guys will take

Brian Atlasthe makeup wipes and wipe all of your makeup off right here I'm sorry I have to veto I have to veto this it's going to be way too disruptive to okay okay why we why did we receive a message to

Shai / Imogen (mixed)wear makeup hold on that's literally not true that's true no it's literally not it said we told youup

Brian Atlasand hair we said no no no no no no we said be makeup and hair ready that's not that's no that's not telling you to go ahead and wear makeup that's assuming that if you do opt to wear makeup don't

Shai / Imogen (mixed)come into the studio and take 10 minutes in the bathroom to put it on here oh okay well be more specific because the new people wouldn't know that like when when I seen the message I wasn't even

Brian Atlasgoing to I wasn't going to wear makeup here and then I seen the message and I was like oh okay I better wear makeup the reason we say be makeup and hair ready is so that women don't show up and spend 20 minutes in the bathroom getting ready when we need to get the show going

Brian Atlasthat's like a show business term that's like super normal it's not I don't care if you show up with makeup cool if you show up without makeup totally cool but that's not me saying you have to show up with

Multiple Guests (mixed)makeup Checkmate I mean she's Australian man like can't she doesn't speak English what are you trying to say it's different speak Eng it's different there here's all about chiz yeah but there's a difference

Brian Atlasbetween saying if you're already going to do something make sure that it's been applied prior to you arriving then anyways that's not a major thing but we don't specifically instruct people you

Andrew Wilsonhave to wear makeup that's just what it looked like but I mean would you guys agree in this this is um this is one of the largest IRL podcasts in the the World by the way

Andrew Wilsonwould you guys actually agree if I shave my beard to grab the makeup wipes then and he has the makeup removers right there to remove your makeup while you look at the camera for the rest of this

Brian Atlaspodcast if I shave my beard cuz I'll make that deal with you I would for sure it has to be a consensus would all of you do it they all have to do it yes it's going to be I think it's going to

Andrew Wilsonbe a little too disruptive to be honest I just want to hear their answers would you do it yes yep I would yeah see I think Brian it up because because you said yeah we could have called her

Multiple Guests (mixed)Bluff Brian we could have called her Bluff but okay I don't think any of you would honestly I don't think that you guys would actually wipe your makeup off right here live if I shave my we each

Andrew Wilsonshow a picture of us without makeup would you still shave your beard no what I'm asking is in a consensus right like some of you can be uglier than others so if you have your makeup off it might not

Andrew Wilsonmean anything right but some of you I think have second faces on so I think that many of you would disagree with this assessment and would not actually take your makeup off while you're on this one of the largest IRL podcasts in the world with all these eyes on I don't

Multiple Guests (mixed)I don't believe it would you take your makeup off no would you yes would you yeah yeah no no yes yes yeah yeah I'm only wearing mascara makeup yes I mean but I nine times on a 10 I'm not wearing

Brian Atlasmakeup yeah I was also going to say she's like not even wearing any makeup she's not wearing any makeup could be you know what it could be interesting but Andrew your beard I need to keep you with the beard man I got to veto this because I need you with your

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