Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! HEATED DEBATE With Feminists! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #172

Date: 2024-06-24

Duration: 8h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCharlie Kirk >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_03Shai / Imogen (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_06Serena(guest)

SPEAKER_09Charlie Kirk(guest)

SPEAKER_11TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_14Multiple Guests (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroCharlie Kirk introduction — announces himself as Erica's husband, founder of Turning Point USA, 30yo, 2 kids under 2, book promo week.

“I am Charlie I'm Erica's husband and uh father of two we just had a new baby uh so we have two under two”

Key MomentCharlie Kirk explains three waves of feminism to panel (suffrage, Gloria Steinem/workforce, third wave = any inequity is wrong).

“first wave feminism would be like the Equal Rights Amendment...second wave feminism was like Gloria Steinem...third wave feminism is that any inequity that we see between men or women is inherently wrong”

ControversyHeated debate: should women be drafted into military? Charlie argues men should protect women; panel debates equality vs. protection.

“I would say to reach optimal results if we're speaking on war then yes we should Shield women from the draft”

Key MomentCharlie Kirk describes encountering a Grizzly bear in the wild during Man vs. Bear debate segment.

“I've seen a grizzly bear up close and personal and I've lived right only them that is not fun you don't want to see a grizzly bear”

OtherCharlie Kirk departs the show at ~222 minutes after book promo and panel debate.

“He's a brave and decent man he's a pioneer he's a Pioneer thank you for coming Charlie”

IntroAndrew Wilson joins the show mid-episode, introduces himself as host of The Crucible and political analyst.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible I'm a political analyst”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson interrogates Amy about her 18-year polyamorous dating arrangement, challenging the timeline math and motivations.

“I'm just trying to figure out why how long you were actually with these two guys”

QuoteLeah reveals ex-boyfriend prostituted himself for meth — Brian calls it 'winning the Whatever podcast'.

“he would prostitute himself for math oh that's horrible...he would to men to men”

ControversyAndrew Wilson confronts Imogen about choosing OnlyFans over her Catholic mother's wishes; extended exchange about trusting parental guidance.

“your mom says don't do this...why don't you trust her wisdom”

QuoteAndrew Wilson to Imogen: 'You are one of the most dishonest trolls, you're even bad at trolling.'

“you are one dishonest trolls you're even bad at trolling you're even bad at that”

OtherBody count round: Shai claims 'off the scales, lost count at like 80, past 80'. Imogen claims 0 (disputed by Andrew and audience).

“my body count is off the scales I don't even know I lost count at like 80”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

All 9 female guests and Charlie Kirk introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Followed by relationship status round.

Feminist clip reaction — liberal women wanting traditional men

Brian plays viral clip of liberal woman lamenting that masculine men who provide tend to be conservative. Panel reacts.

Who pays on first date; feminism definitions

Discussion of first date payment norms. Charlie Kirk explains three waves of feminism. Panel debates whether they identify as feminists.

Women in military draft debate

Debate whether women should be subject to military conscription (Selective Service). Charlie Kirk argues men should always pay and shields women from war. Panel offers varied views. Heather makes uterus/repopulation argument.

Birth control, capitalism, wage gap

Brian's previous comments about hormonal birth control affecting women's brains discussed. Charlie expands on it. Discussion of gender wage gap, capitalist systems, and equal pay for equal work.

Man vs. Bear debate

Classic viral debate: would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or a random bear? Shai chooses bear; most others choose man. Charlie Kirk's perspective on bear vs. man.

Would you date a conservative; religious men

Panel discusses whether they would date a conservative or Trumpy man. Charlie recommends religious men. Discussion of finding good men and Catholic faith.

Charlie Kirk departs; Andrew Wilson joins; ratings round

Charlie Kirk leaves at ~222 min. Brief transition, ratings round conducted, Andrew Wilson (The Crucible) joins the panel.

Andrew Wilson debates Amy about polyamorous arrangement

Andrew Wilson interrogates Amy about her 18-year concurrent relationship arrangement with two men, questioning the timeline and motivations.

Extended panel discussions — dating, relationships, social topics

Various topics including dating apps, body counts, OnlyFans, feminism continued. Multiple TTS rating rounds throughout.

Andrew Wilson vs. Australian OnlyFans guests; body counts

Andrew Wilson confronts Imogen about Catholic upbringing vs. OnlyFans career. Questions why she won't trust her mother's advice. Heated back-and-forth. Body count round: Shai claims 80+, Imogen claims 0 (disputed).

End of show roast, wrap-up

Roast section. Andrew Wilson and Shai/Imogen trade insults. Show wraps. Announcement of next stream.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaswant to submit the second but why is TTS not working my question was tied to the current conversation and never went through uh we we had to pause it temporarily just so we could get through a couple segments here but uh I just got it now so and you submitted that just

Brian Atlaslike 10 minutes ago but thank you man appreciate it uh and then we just have a few more here guys a few more here and uh Nick you can hide this one that's a

TTS Readersuper it's uh below the threshold the BR donated $300 y crazy crazy bags Le bags Le bags Le bags leag

Brian Atlashey for the sake of time I got to skip that one man but BR SS thank you very much we only have we only have Charlie for limited time here but we got we got the message is is that your nickname yeah from him apparently from brance

Brian Atlasapparently a lot of the chat said that last stream I they love her but we don't know no no they don't okay let's let's not let's not uh horse with no name thank you for the gifted 20 Subs on Twitch really appreciate it thank you thank you and

Brian Atlasthen we just have three more coming in and then we'll get to the juice question at hand Alyssa thank you for the uh membership guys get Charlie Kirk's book right ring Revolution how to beat the

Brian Atlaswoke and save the west and save the West can I get a book one sec I have aop you got some copies you get a sign copy hold on hold on hold on law paladins gold digger hold on hold stop stop stop stop stop stop goldigger had an important Point

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Brian Atlascollege uh now wow that's a double whammy um and then we have Bron Char you look we ride if JoJo doesn't come on Bron this is this deserves a champagne pop

Brian Atlasthat we put love JoJo this this deserves a champagne pop that we put JoJo on say it with me boys we want leche bags we want leche okay all right oh also wait can I say something before it's my birthday at midnight I will be 26 at

Multiple Guests (mixed)midnight tomorrow is my birthday so absolutely need to have a champagne pop or I will cry and Riot and she will cry and Riot

Brian Atlasokay all right anxiety Tech number two by the way panel Charlie Kirk is going to is going to give you signed copies I take back part of Canada I'm in

Multiple Guests (mixed)Vancouver oh wow but like but like that's in British Columbia right yeah a couple hours out from Vancouver I'm in the boonies so I'll spread the word in the boonies here you have to earn the book so we'll see what you do she

Brian Atlaswon best things in life earned here is the deal though she earned it if if he signs a copy for you you have to display it by your bedside for the rest of your life for the rest of your life is his

Multiple Guests (mixed)face at the cover for the rest of my life sorry I'm sorry that in it's a big face I will acknowledge no no no it's like come on if let's say let's say I'm so committed you know that's you're married man okay deal is that the deal I

Brian Atlascan't have that he'll sign a copy for you I can't I can't promise okay fine you you can't sell it on eBay though that's the rle if you how much does it go for on eBay though on eBay a signed copy would be more than

Multiple Guests (mixed)retail I would hope so I would never I would never give that up I would never give that sign copy up there you go me and forever okay well we got through all the chats I want to thank you guys for sending all those in I know you had to

Brian Atlaswait a little bit there I just wanted to make sure we got through everything thank you guys charlie you're wanting to talk about uh schorin Are We Now allowed to say the word no you can say the word

Brian AtlasI'm just being extra uh I'm trying to spice it up a little yeah spice it up go I'm trying to try let me see if I can frame it from a dating related would you date a guy okay hold on I'm so glad him not

TTS Readerdating donated $300 don't pause the TTS Brian if the chats are interrupting the conversation then you need to raise the price or not

TTS Readeradvertise it you're killing he paid $300 to say that raise price don't pause he makes a point though because he probably paid a $300 you got to raise the raid I I do I do well we only have a few minutes left

Brian Atlaswith Charley we'll see we'll see what happens oh okay but in any case uh I'll leave it on I'm leaving it on I just had to pause it just cuz we're get we had to get through a whole bunch of stuff but

Brian Atlasfair game so would you date a guy who was pro life starting with you would I

Multiple Guests (mixed)date one right now yeah okay no no yes probably not I don't think so no that's

SPEAKER_13a requirement yes good for you I mean I I think women should have the right to choose in certain

Charlie Kirksituations okay mainly based on essaying sure okay uh taking away Charlie yeah I mean who has strong opinions on the

Charlie Kirktopic don't look at me the Canadian Canadian she talking about all right for those of you that are pro abortion any one of you can chime in and you can take

Multiple Guests (mixed)a second when does Life begin when you have Consciousness okay when is that um it's it's debated but probably around 20 to 24 weeks maybe 18 to 24 weeks so then

Multiple Guests (mixed)would you say we should allow no more abortions after 18 weeks it's a little tougher after that I probably would agree that maybe you shouldn't if you do maybe you know I'll be more okay with it

Multiple Guests (mixed)but at the same to be a little weary about it okay anybody else have a thought on that I don't care don't care okay no opinion hold on because some abortions late term are kind of crazy

Charlie Kirkyou should abortion super late term right which America has the craziest late term abortion La uh welcome to Canada Canada is also out of control too can Canada is any anytime in Canada wow

Multiple Guests (mixed)any that's remarkable what does anytime mean anytime in the womb up to up to gestation up to um I think it's dependent on area actually I think it's but but abortion is also a medical term so it's not

Multiple Guests (mixed)necessarily that someone wants to get rid of it it's also a medical abortion so like you need to cuz uh I had someone in my life who 6 months in they were super happy about their pregnancy and

Charlie Kirkthey had to have an abortion because their fetus died inside of them see yeah that's that's a surgical removal though that's not it's still it's still considered an abortion is that right yeah it's still considered an abortion you're not really aborting a pregnancy so it's just a maybe not aborting a

Multiple Guests (mixed)pregnancy but you're still aborting it's still an abortion I guess yeah I guess that's a in the yeah it's still the same term it's still the same term yeah it's just not technically an abort an abortion would be the well when you're

Multiple Guests (mixed)thinking of abortion you're thinking of aborting a a live fetus that may be viable to live on but but an abortion can still be uh a fetus that is already dead that you have to abort because it

Charlie Kirkwill rot inside of you and kill you that's the sensitive area still in the US no even even pro-life people are okay if the fetus is no longer living removing the fetus well that's what happened to this person that I knew they

Multiple Guests (mixed)had to have an abortion at 6 months because they're that's we're I wouldn't say that's an abortion but I don't want to it technically is an abortion well like with Texas for example Texas law right you're allowed to remove a a dead

Multiple Guests (mixed)fetus yeah that's still an abortion at that point it's still an abortion you have to abort the fetus because I know but is it living no no it doesn't it doesn't have to be living for it to be an abortion we're just qualm over terms that would be a surgery for we should

Charlie Kirkshould call it what it is if it's an abortion it's an abortion okay that's an interesting debate what is abortion then uh removing a fetus dead or alive from your body okay dead or alive I would say alive we just disagree yeah meaning I would say that ceasing the life that's

Serenainteresting you said Dead or Alive because but even when it's dead you have to abort it you have to remove it you can remove abort abort Mission well you can you can remove it without surgery though no not when it's 6 months old

Multiple Guests (mixed)well not 6 months but at a month but but so what about six months what would you call it then when you have to remove a six-month old fetus we're calming over terms I wouldn't disagree that it requires surgery but is it not an abortion no because you're not actually

Charlie Kirkaborting the mission you have to abort the mission the fetus is dead remove it so so then 500 years ago how did that fetus leave the you no the mother the it would the fenus would wrought inside the mother and the mother would die not not

Multiple Guests (mixed)all the time no the woman could also give birth to the happen all the time but that doesn't that rarely happens most that's why that's why they call upon it to be removed because nine times out of 10 the mother will die from the

Charlie Kirkfetus I'm morally fine with that that's for sure do you think that if a baby can feel pain regardless of Consciousness hold on I'm talking about a dead fetus at six month no I'm not disagreeing with that you're dwelling on that micro isue

Charlie Kirksry sorry sorry hold on I'm listening okay but going way back to like when abortion should be illegal so you say life begins at Consciousness sorry when should abortion be illegal or what time I think all abortion should be legal but

Multiple Guests (mixed)but at what time you said when at beginning at conception okay no I'm trying to understand your position okay so okay hold back I'm listening soorry just going to shut up that's okay so so

Charlie Kirkyou say Consciousness is when life begins mhm okay so then if somebody is without Consciousness after a car accident and they're on life support yes they're no longer living unplug them take me unplug them okay yeah you're

Charlie Kirkconsistent so even the ones that come back to full Consciousness when their brain waves are no longer detected hey baby unplug I'm fine with that I have no issue with that what do you mean how is

Multiple Guests (mixed)that crazy that's kind of isn't it want some that is not but also I see her point because so many people are kept Alive by their family members who are grieving but I thought

Multiple Guests (mixed)they're not alive no no so but they're kept their bodies are kept physically alive by their families that are grieving and I'm talking about like for years and years families that can afford

Multiple Guests (mixed)it right and it's like in I that's why I see her point also a a a a a physically developing fetus is not the same is a full grown human that's already alive for sure what species is the

Multiple Guests (mixed)fetus they're human but they're still a fetus so we that's why we differentiate a fetus from a human but what does fetus mean what is that fetus is a developing human they're not quite human yeto develop so what so they become a human

Charlie Kirkright when brain waves when they when they when they develop mental Consciousness which could be as early as 6 weeks 12 weeks but I'll take exact dat we don't know the ex if I told you if we have data that shows 6 weeks you'd be

Shai / Imogen (mixed)cool with cutting it off yeah if if we could see six weeks that you had mental Consciousness that you could you could experience life and form memories but at 6 weeks you can't you just can't you don't even do you even have a heartbeat

Charlie Kirkat six weeks no well you do yeah around six or S is it is it not 10 weeks it depends I mean we we sort of know I mean every baby's trajectory is different it's between six to 10 weeks so yeah but if a baby can feel pain and have a

Multiple Guests (mixed)heartbeat you're you're you're okay with that it no I don't care about a heartbeat at all I don't care about a heartbeat in any capacity why cuz if I'm brain dead and I'm laying in a hospital bed and I have a heartbeat but my brain

Charlie Kirkis dead you're going to pull the plug do you think that a human being is more than brain waves no it's all about your brain no see this we have a good disagreement here I think a human being as a soul does anyone else think human being Soul no I believe you have a soul but your soul connects to your brain oh

Charlie Kirkhold on no yeah I think so who else who else thinks we have souls I also believe Soul we have soul soul soul soul soul not sure not sure n what do you think of

Charlie Kirkcourse yes so you think solar yes or no sorry hold on there's water my that's okay so you think so Soul brain and mind are all one thing right that's what you think I think it all connects in some

Charlie Kirkway got it so so I believe that Soul happens as soon as creation happens I agree with that yes I agree with that so then if you are terminating a baby prior to brain waves you're still terminating

Charlie Kirka soul your soul will go into another being you'll get reincarnated something I don't believe that what your soul without a brain that's a good question so I mean let's let's play this out when you die if we believe in a soul then it

Multiple Guests (mixed)transcends your brain WS yeah so so that mean it's not in your brain then it's outside of your brain it's your whole being as your soul yeah but you're not physically here so what would be the difference between pulling the CT or not pulling the your soul would still exist

Charlie Kirkwell no for sure with that argument we should just kill a lot of people and think nothing of it sure their souls will go where they need go no I I know but what you're saying is that since somebody has a some some a being has a soul which is my argument we don't have

Multiple Guests (mixed)a right to pull the plug or to terminate that being regardless of as brain waves or not because the soul is there at the moment of creation no because when your loved one is suffering and there you know well hold on the fetus is not suffering the baby's not suffering at 2

Multiple Guests (mixed)weeks can I can I ask a question how does this translate to like War when when you well there's a lot of people no lot I like your popcorn it's because

Multiple Guests (mixed)it's like can I have some we can argue we can argue we can argue about um abortion and things like that how it's wrong but then some a lot of or some

Charlie Kirkmore right lean are okay with war still and like sacrificing men's lives so how how does that translate with ar it's a good question I mean I'm I'm totally against the Ukraine Russian war for example I think it should end I mean I again I think all all human beings are

Charlie Kirkmade of the image of God nothing should be trivialized but as far as like people being okay with War I mean you have to give me an example um wait can I be charitable here would the perhaps a better argument from your position be

Multiple Guests (mixed)why are these people also in favor of the death sentence is that kind of can be okay I mean that's a good question are you in favor of the death sent the death P absolutely but okay so you're in favor of the death penalty but you're

Multiple Guests (mixed)not in favor of abortion because you think infants are innocent is that why or yeah let's take let's let's take an example okay this last week two illegal aliens in this country just kidnapped

Charlie Kirkand raped the 12-year-old not the illegal aliens sorry yeah so a baby in the womb did not kidnap and rape a 12-year-old hold on well everyone has everyone has Free Will and the potential

Charlie Kirkto mhm but someone who just kidnapped and raped to 12-year-olds they're in a complete different moral Universe than a baby who is sitting patiently in it's also it's the argument like I I totally

Multiple Guests (mixed)understand that fetuses are Innocent but it's the same argument that like you know if it if it's the what is it the violinist I talked about this before the first time I was on the viol I've been through this so many times I know you've been through this but I'll I'll still

Multiple Guests (mixed)run it through the violinist argument where you're hooked up you wake up and you're hooked up to the most famous violinist and they're hooked up you and you have to sit there for 9 months bedridden to take care of them but in order for that metaphor to be true did

Charlie Kirkyou know the night before that you had a chance to potentially be hooked up to a VY violinist if you had a bunch of pleasure okay I I get that part but even even because you agreed to have sex before all of a sudden the violin up in

Multiple Guests (mixed)your even at that point even then at that point accidents happen like you can like it's also like you could just leave your front door open by accident now someone's sitting in your house for months but having sex is a choice now less than 1% % of all

Charlie Kirkabortions are rape incest but having sex is a choice you don't have to have that choice don't choose to be pregnant when you have sex you don't choose to be pregnant hold on but you have a choice to have sex in the first place yes but you don't choose to be pregnant

Multiple Guests (mixed)pregnancy sex doesn't always lead to pregnancy women are only fertile for five days of the month right so why do you need to have sex feels good what are you talking about so so we should just do it feels good regardless of the

Multiple Guests (mixed)choices or consequen people do that all the time just because people do things all the time is that right no it's not about people do it's people like feeling good people like things that them dopamine we're getting somewhere right

Charlie Kirkso should what feels good be prioritized over what is good sometimes it depends exactly on what it is okay so if I can have pleasure and a bunch of people die

Charlie Kirkthat's perfectly fine I said it depends on what it is if people are dying okay so again back to the point is that you don't outside of rape or those very very Fringe text cases 99% of the time you

Charlie Kirkdon't just wake up magically pregnant no no you you know that you had sex and you're like oh so hold on a second so why do you then get to have the orgasm without the responsibility hold on because you don't get to have the

Charlie Kirkorgasm you just wake up pregnant's hold on a second but but but hold on or no but the but if the woman chooses to keep the baby the man has to pay child support I don't well it's it's the law

Charlie Kirksecondly stupid sometimes well that's right both parties made the choice which is interesting do you think that men should be able to have a say before woman has an abortion I think it should be a conversation I don't but here's the thing I don't think you parties have to

Multiple Guests (mixed)agree I think so cons I don't think you should be able to force women into abortion just like you shouldn't be able to force women out of an abortion you shouldn't no way each way or the other no way you can't tell someone to do with

Multiple Guests (mixed)their body hold on but is it their body or is it that another body is within their body it's a okay but if someone broke into my house I would put a gun to their head and say get the out or die but but hold on you invited the baby

Multiple Guests (mixed)into the house with somebody I didn't invite the I didn't invite the baby open I I left the door unlocked by accident somebody push push it back but wait that that baby is then within you

Charlie Kirkokay and and it's still my body Within Me me my body right but it's so is it your DNA it doesn't matter if it's my D why do you hold on why do you have control over somebody else's DNA I thought you said because they're in me

Charlie Kirkif they want control they should have come so it's location issue super interesting so location matters more than being just because happens to be within a if it was my baby in

Charlie KirkHawaii take them out however so if somebody has uh it's not if it's your DNA you have Total Choice over your DNA to take a vaccine or not a vaccine to be able to take eat Coke drink Coke or drink Sprite if they're in my body and

Charlie Kirkthey're affecting my life I'll do what I want with them okay so that so just because somebody's location determines their moral worth no it's not about necessarily location it's about how they

Multiple Guests (mixed)affect me for for 9 months after you chose to be able to get it's not even just 9 months it's after the fact too you have postpartum depression no yeah so that's interesting so I we're getting

Charlie Kirksomewhere so your argument is you should do what is expedient even if there is a victim and there might be a casualty you won't even know they're a victim okay that's interesting if is it okay to

Multiple Guests (mixed)murder if the person does not know they were murdered sure why not they won't even know they so it's okay to go to an old person's home a bunch of people with dementia and just start popping popping round true bye Po and

Charlie KirkW you just killed your argument no I don't I'm not even k no you did just kill your argument so we can go to old people's homes demential Alzheimer's they're drain on society they don't know who they are they don't know their name they don't know their relatives by the way Millions be of demenan Alzheimer's

Multiple Guests (mixed)and we kill them because should hold on hold no you said you should be able to oh my God but it's not necessarily like if if they're never going to know they're never going to know okay so murdering dementia patience is

Multiple Guests (mixed)consistent you're right you are being consistent I I I think there is a little bit of inconsistency like after you're dead you're dead in a lot of cases in a lot of religions right so like Aus isn't even born though they're

Charlie Kirknot a person on the street someone goes and shoots you you won't know so but hold on if if you go same argument the the idea is the question is this is just because something is not boring are they

Charlie Kirkalive and do they have value I don't think so okay so let's go through it so just Bec is it because the baby is the fetus or baby is small they don't have Consciousness hold on we we we've gone we've gone through that I want to try to

Charlie Kirkis it because they're small that's not your argument location that's your argument no no environment or but you said degree of dependency that's the one that you said you said wait you said environment I don't but I don't agree with the environment well meaning like

Charlie Kirkwhere the I'm going through the acronym of what most pro-abortion arguments are size level development environment degree of dependency so I'm trying to I always try to find which one your prior because every pro-abortion argument falls into one four yeah yeah so degree

Charlie Kirkof dependency this baby is going to take from me mhm are you glad you're mom nurtured you for 9 months in the womb I mean she not really to be honest so you

Charlie Kirkwish you wouldn't have been born I'm sure with that for sure huh H okay you're consistent I am yeah so so you so if you were just to be killed tomorrow

Charlie Kirknot a big deal I'd never be I wouldn't even be having this conversation w i I think that I think I think that this is important because 40 years ago an average woman would not have answered it that way they would have they would have

Charlie Kirksaid my life is beautiful my life has meaning my life has purpose and I'm glad my mom sacrificed for me I think that's the case for every single woman 40 years ago well the vast majority of women 40 years ago were not as depressed not as

Multiple Guests (mixed)suicidal argue now vast majority is still the same way she's yeah inconsistent the most do you think that she is the mainstream opinion or do you think she's a fringe opinion no she's a

Multiple Guests (mixed)fringe opinion for sure yeah Fringe it feels good okay so I completely do you think she's a mainstream opinion or opinion it's pretty French okay yeah I'm fine with that that doesn't bother me at

Charlie Kirkall does anyone else have opinions on this matter if if I were to say that abortion was illegal in America tomorrow that would be worrisome to you guys yeah 100% I think when we say pro-abortion I

Multiple Guests (mixed)don't think that that's necessarily accurate for how I feel I think I'm pro-choice because people are probably going to get abortions anyways I would prefer them be safe it's not something I would necessarily do for myself but I do think if it's going to be happening

Charlie Kirkwhich it is it should be safe and it should be something that everyone talks about and everyone's educated on beforehand so in Texas they just outlawed abortion abortion rates have gone down dramatically so it's not totally true it's half true they're going to other states to get them but

Charlie Kirkthe birth rate's gone up so it's like this idea that people are going to find them otherwise sometimes they just have the baby instead are you more concerned with the birth rate going up or or well all of it I the morality of it is the number one issue which we do not have a moral obligation to terminate human

Multiple Guests (mixed)beings smaller than us so I have a question for you so if it was scientifically proven like 100% without a doubt that you don't have a Consciousness you don't feel pain until the day you come out the womb you're fine with any and all types of abortions

Charlie Kirkall of a sudden no no consciousness is not that's her argument my argument is that at the point of your DNA's creation a New Soul is entering the world and the Soul transcends reason and I'll prove it to you guys so you're saying soul and

Charlie KirkConsciousness aren't related no not at all we know that at least in the religious realm because when your Consciousness ceases your soul lives oh okay because it goes to an afterlife in a religious context I'm not not going to

Charlie Kirkwin you over on a modern cont Sor no but let me try to win you over because there are points when we all see beauty when our reason or our Consciousness is not able to describe them I was at a loss

Charlie Kirkfor words that Sunset was so beautiful I I it took my breath away it was breathtaking it was at times there are things that hit us on a soul level we all know this when we hear a certain song see a certain painting experience

Charlie Kirknatural beauty that touch us on a level that cannot always be described using our are reasonable faculties and I know we all had those when you go to yosd when you see a sunset in Santa Barbara all of a sudden

Charlie Kirkyou're like wow that is that that touches me at a level that is eternal and beautiful and is divine my argument is that every being at the time of creation which is when the sperm and egg

Charlie Kirkmeat when the deoo ribonucleic acid is formed that being has a soul and if you don't make the soul argument then you make the Consciousness argument and it's easy to make that because it's just we're all we're not I think our being is

Charlie Kirkmore than just a bunch of brain cells well no I think we have souls as well along with the when does the soul enter the being when you are created got it so is no so I mean you're indifferent towards allowing a soul to be dismissed

Charlie Kirkwithout because they'll move on some because I fully believe a soul will move on to another got it so that that's interesting so what was wrong with osit I mean that was just horrible why an insane question the Jewish Souls were going to another place what's wrong with

Charlie Kirkno no no because they were being tortured well no let's say the death was quick no no it wasn't though let's not play stupid here okay let's just well a lot of deaths were at incidents execution if if the death was no they

Charlie Kirkthey were stared well some were but let me just let me rephrase it then some an insane thing to say some well yes some Jews were immediately killed and they got off of the rail cars yes they were tortured they were they were tearing

Charlie Kirkaway from their famili let me ask you a different question now let if if the death was seamless and without pain and immediate okay can can you just pull away from the owitz argument cuz that is insane you just you just said that the

Multiple Guests (mixed)soul goes to another place and that's fine yes but it's not about the soul it's also about the living so it's about the form of death no it's about the living being what they experience but I don't fully believe that fetus is experiencing a a living life until they

Multiple Guests (mixed)have Consciousness and they I don't believe that they do until what 22 weeks when you have a 14we abortion at Planned Parenthood in Southern California they offer for an additional fee pain

Multiple Guests (mixed)medication for the fetus I'm I'm I'm so they the data assumes nobody can ask them but the data assumes that at 14 weeks which is legal California's 20 weeks right at 14 the data shows that

Multiple Guests (mixed)the fetus can feel pain and struggle so they offer for an additional fee you can either get pain medication for your fetus as you aborted or you can get a pizza or a pizza it's about 40 bucks

Multiple Guests (mixed)extra to get pain medication women also have to what get an IUD with no pain medication the medical industry derived towards wom is not fair if there were less abortions in America would that be

Charlie Kirka good thing yes of course the question is how we get there that's a that's a good question how do we get there birth control education so the more birth control that has happened the more birth control we've had in the west the more

Multiple Guests (mixed)abortions we have cuz people have have more people need to be implemented like uh self-control what how about this radical idea what if people waited to have sex when they got married that will never happen why because people want to

Charlie KirkI'm being I waited for marriage I mean it's amazing that's I'm I'm that's amazing for you but you are not I know it's not easy but that's a good question let me get to this though do those of you that haven't I'm guessing

Charlie Kirkyou all haven't waited till you got married do you wish you did no no no to any of you wish you so in the ideal if I could paint a world for you that you only shared your sexual experience with

Multiple Guests (mixed)one person that was your soulmate that's not interesting to you no oh that's cool but wait you guys don't any of the men you've slept with I I may that I've slept with you don't believe in soulmates not necess how about best friend no per you don't believe in best

Multiple Guests (mixed)friends I've had a lot of best friends in my life perfect match no I don't think that exists either you guys are so J I do think the sex is better when you're people through your at least we're consistent no you're very

Multiple Guests (mixed)consistent have multiple soulmates you multiple Souls I was saying like with as big as the world is you're not going to necessarily find exactly one person because you're going to grow throughout

Charlie Kirkyour life we're changing all and sometimes people don't grow with you but if that person were to grow with you then that's so then if it's not a soulmate I mean this not factiously then what is the purpose of marriage I don't

Multiple Guests (mixed)agree I wouldn't do illegal marriage to come into a union is marriage even a thing that we should care about if you got divorced and I don't wish that but if you got divorced in 10 years what

Charlie Kirkwhat do you think of that I I I'm I mean I I don't think that will happen it's not it's not it's not even a hypothetical I want to entertain Charlie do you think secular people should get married I think everyone should get married I think it makes you a better person um what I what I find interesting

Charlie Kirkthough is that we're start you've said it best if you have as much sex as you want before and it marriage really doesn't mean much does it no do you think America was a better country when people waited to have sex when they got married you think everyone did that in

Multiple Guests (mixed)America no it was the vast majority of women in the 50s and 60s would not have premarital sex I don't think we have technology to prove that though like we don't have the data that we having sex outside of marriage hiding it better

Charlie Kirktalk talk to your grandparents generation we have studies we have surveys and we know this by the way cuz birth control wasn't that widespread yeah but you can still have sex without getting pregnant right but we we we know there like times a months with ovulation

Multiple Guests (mixed)hold on a second so let's just you do not think that people are having more premarital sex today than they were 60 years ago I'm sure they are definit are but that doesn't mean they weren't at all before so I'm asking do you think

Charlie Kirkdo you think that's a good thing or a bad thing that people are having more premarital sex I personally don't like it I don't like hookup culture at all you don't like hookup culture but you're not regretting sleeping with a bunch of

Multiple Guests (mixed)guys before a soulmate help me understand I I okay hold on guys is crazy hold on and you don't like hookup culture but you also do only fans so help me understand all this let me okay

Multiple Guests (mixed)so my my body count is six and two of those I was in a relationship with the third one I thought I was going to be in a relationship with and the three before that all of my friends were hooking up with guys so I thought like oh that's

Multiple Guests (mixed)what I need to do because they're all hooking up so this is the normal thing I should be hooking up and I realized very quickly I don't like hooking up with random men I don't like do any of you think that women are being harmed by

Charlie Kirkhookup culture yes I agree so you all agree at that but then you say that no you don't think men are being you don't think women are being harmed by H culture no okay wait what we'll get that in a second however so then why don't

Charlie Kirkall of you make a commitment that you're going to save yourself for marriage you could do that Society might not have to because I I'm already past the point well well you can you can make a new you can always become a new version of yourself what's done is done but you

Multiple Guests (mixed)could say now going to save myself from this point forward I don't want to be new version I want to be me and they accept me for me what is me what is that what whatever I've done in the past and up till this point so there's no improvement I don't need I don't need to

Charlie Kirkimprove necessarily it's I don't don't need to improve hold on it's that I don't need to hide what I've done no I'm not saying hide but for example bad bad example if one is an alcoholic and they go through AA and no it's okay and then

Charlie Kirkyou you become a new version of yourself that's growth right yeah that's growth but they should still know what I've done in the past they know it but I'm I'm not saying you hide it I'm asking the question what is the argument against any of you young ladies saying

Charlie Kirkyou know what I'm no longer going to have premarital sex I'm going to wait till marriage hookup culture is destructive I'm going to find a man who values with me he's never been with another partner and I'm going to start a new chapter what is the argument against that um because then you're going to

Multiple Guests (mixed)come on this podcast and we're going to have a twoh hour long conversation about how if everybody waited in the Drive-Thru and they paid $100 why is a man got to pay $2 you're going to it's a it's a conversation they have on here

Multiple Guests (mixed)what about everybody being reborn they're like oh so if you wait now everyone's already done it it's not fair to the next man they have this conversation tracking your argument no it's not really an argument necessarily

Multiple Guests (mixed)so she just she's given an example about about the fact that like if I don't you know all these people are going to participate in this anyways so why I got it okay but you're kind of going to get on it anyway what I'm saying you're going to get treated like garbage

Multiple Guests (mixed)whether you do it or not so you think you'll be treated like garbage if you don't have premarital sex oh easily easily well I just think maybe potentially the next guy wouldn't want to wait because they might be like oh but everyone else this do do you think

Charlie Kirkthat you have any leverage over the men in your relationships um what do men want more than anything else probably sex why why don't you stop giving it to them nobody's giving it to anyone what are you talking about well you said in your

Multiple Guests (mixed)relationships you guys had premarital sex but you could also like not participate in hookup cult shirt and also decide to not wait until marriage like those things don't have to be they're not you're right they're not synonymous but then if you aren't waiting till marriage then you're

Charlie Kirkbasically saying marriage means nothing that's effective what you're saying not necessarily because what What is marriage What is marriage about marage is not about sex it's more than sex you're right but what is marriage about it's a bond between two people it's a person that you choose to have a I agree

Multiple Guests (mixed)so but but if you can't you meet if you meet someone who you don't want to have a family with but you're actually in love or whatever and you want to have sex you should be able to and that's not hookup culture no you of course you should be able to I'm not saying what

Charlie KirkI'm arguing what one to do not one able to doble are two different words able F you have the freedom to do it I'm saying in the ideal what is the argument against the women of America saying men you have to marry me to be able to sleep

Multiple Guests (mixed)with me but but also why you should ask your co-host right here cuz he doesn't want to get married yeah I don't want I don't want to get married you know look maybe I

Multiple Guests (mixed)might have a I'm I'm I'm a super tra guy so excuse my questions me and charie aren't going to agree on everything but uh so what I mean I I that sexual

Multiple Guests (mixed)compatibility is important I guess because that was one of the biggest piece of attention with my ex-husband is I mean we had a sexless marriage yeah

Multiple Guests (mixed)that's that's a problem yeah I guess my new husband and I I mean we waited a while and you said that he was more of a fanboy right the first one or like more

Multiple Guests (mixed)feminine righty it wasn't necessarily I mean he was a big tall Mexican but he just like I made a lot more than he did he do you think that men should wait until

Charlie Kirkmarriage or just okay cuz I agree with that then if women have to wait men have to wait as well America there's a lot of problems in America one of the problems has been that sex in its ideal is

Charlie Kirkweighted in a holy setting between a male and female that share that experience only with their life partner now there's exceptions there's mistakes but if we just throw it all out the

Charlie Kirkwindow and say men won't like me and hookup culture I think there's a lot of damage and a lot of ramifications for that and again the the the point being is this is I believe firmly young ladies

Charlie Kirkare damaged mentally by having too many sexual partners I think men are too though I think men are I think men are too hookup culture hurts women far more than I agree it hurts women more but I think men are like I don't think real I

Charlie Kirkdon't think men realize how damaging it is as well to them maybe of course there's damage to all people but men are wired differently where many sexual partners for men does not hurt men nearly as much as many sexual partners

Charlie Kirkfor women because women are far more relational driven and far more Bond driven so they look at sex as a culmination of a bond where men look at

Charlie Kirkit as sex as physical purely not always with those other elements unless there is a component of we're going to try to develop a long basting longlasting Bond

Multiple Guests (mixed)here and the question is so do you think that men have driven hookup culture then because they don't care about it as much I I think that it's both I think women are driving it too I think it's both I think but but you're saying saying that women when women have sex they need to

Multiple Guests (mixed)have that Bond and they they're more concern how they're wired yeah so women are wired to want to have a bond when they're having sex with someone but men don't care so do you not would you not think that men are driving hookup culture then no I think both sides are I

Charlie Kirkmean I think that men are driving because because women are making themselves available that's the point is because they think it's going to be a longer Bond yeah kind no of course and women should know male nature before

Charlie Kirkthey start sleeping around with hold on so is it a woman's always it a man's fault both it's both if if every woman today that was marketable and all of you guys are on the market correct looking for Life Partners I've never been on the

Charlie Kirkmarket okay okay if every one of you it's simple supply and demand if you said we're off limits until the ring is there and the priest says the final vows how would men react

Charlie Kirkhypothetically they would hop on would decrease half the dating pool probably at least I totally disagree cuz we know what that world looks like we used to have it 50 or 60 years ago you know what men grow up quicker they stop being

Multiple Guests (mixed)Manchild and infants T so so you're one of the ones who also uh probably argues against like there's like sexual chemistry and stuff like that you probably argue no that's not I think sexual chemistry is a real

Charlie Kirkthing but it's a culmination of different types of love that are not just erotic there are deeper types of Love That transcend the physical physical is part of it sexual compatibility as you say is a huge part

Charlie Kirkof the relationship but all of you know this you could have a partner where you had great sex and you have nothing in common that's not a relationship that's a orgasm and a one night stand or whatever situationship yeah okay it's

Charlie Kirkfine a situationship that's not something to build a life around yeah yeah yeah I agree okay so no we're not disagreeing I I just without legislation

Charlie Kirkor big decrees I I know this that men have very Primal undeveloped immature sexual natures and that is not going to change so should women be punished for men taking advantage of I'm not

Charlie Kirkpunishing I'm not talking about anything I'm talking about cultural stuff not legislation I'm asking about hookup culture again but but if if women want a man that they are worthy of and many of you are not getting men you are worthy

Charlie Kirkof then you need to then stop giving the one thing that men want the most and that is unlimited amounts of sex all the time bodies on the internet because men will only view you as a visual

Multiple Guests (mixed)stimulation and they'll move on and if you disagree you do not understand male nature I but the thing is is men will treat you like that and talk to you like that whether you want to do it or not because these two don't do oof I do o

Charlie Kirktheir twitch chats are just as degenerate as mine because people come in there and say the most horrible things you're all very talented you're smart you guys shouldn't be doing any of that you shouldn't stop doing TT stop stop I'm saying this as someone who like cares about Humanity stop selling your

Multiple Guests (mixed)body on the internet you're lot SM we're playing video games yeah we play like do only fans yes I do they don't and they get just as horrible comments as I do no that's what I'm saying that's

Charlie Kirkyou're making my argument men's sexual nature is very degenerative and how do you lift it up you lift it up by saying you don't get what you want the most until you commit and but the thing is is

Multiple Guests (mixed)to hold on so hold on so you are then leading you need to lead men towards a better future because I'm not doing anything more crazy than they are I'm not doing I'm not doing anything more crazy than they I'm not I'm not trying

Multiple Guests (mixed)to ridicule you guys that's not why I don't care I don't care you can say whatever you want but but I'm saying they're getting the same generate comments that I am on Twitch streams because you're now seeing a window into men's sexual nature and that's what I'm saying so but how then do you lift it up

Charlie Kirkdo you lift it up by giving more sex and more bodies and more always going to treat us way that's that's interesting always going to Tre that's not true yes they will let me tell you yes they will men can grow up but they need a goal no this is very if you don't if you don't

Charlie Kirkbelieve that then you basically are dismissing all of humanity not that I can't believe that men will go it's that men love being useful this is fine men want a purpose they want to go in an adventure and so if you say you can be

Multiple Guests (mixed)with me but here's the rules of the road okay but I'm on the internet and there's how many thousands of hundreds of millions of men on the internet I can't fix all of them I'm not asking you to fix all of them you want to change the

Charlie Kirkworld start with changing you I it doesn't matter they're not even doing a and they're still getting treated like so so again if if you believe that what you do doesn't matter then you're an nihilist and just do whatever you want it's not even about me doing o it's

Charlie Kirkabout the way that men treat you when you're a woman so that's an so this is the point though is that how do you get treated better by men do you one second let me ask you a question do you think you get treated by men better by showing

Multiple Guests (mixed)more skin or less skin obviously if you show less skin okay so you agre but hold on because even when you show less skin there's women in full-blown covered up burkas and they still get sexualized they still get they still get acid

Charlie Kirkthrown on them they still get R worded in the middle of the street like what are you talking about that I I I I don't agree with that at all okay so if you want so men's sexual nature on the internet are seeing a window into the

Charlie Kirkdepraved because there's no guard rails and there's no guidelines so how do you one second how do you lift up that Primal caral sexual nature towards something that is no longer why is that my responsibility to lift up their hold

Charlie Kirkon well it it's not your responsibility it's Humanity's responsibility but I would imagine you want a life partner at some point yes no I'll I'll figure it out when they come to me I'm not going to every man that direction doing only fans you're not going to find a life

Charlie Kirkpartner that's totally fine I don't care yes she is though come on no no many people want to marry her if you think that you can find a virtuous ethical man who tells the truth by

Charlie Kirkshowing a lot of skin online you do not understand male sexual nature you do not and I don't I don't Pro profess to know female sexual nature so we talked about this a little bit men want what they cannot see and they cannot have men want

Charlie KirkRarity scarcity and mystery they do not want abundance and cleavage and skin we get the same for men can you guys stop sleding it up please I'm not saying I I I am asking like I mean men have plenty of what have I just said I said men

Charlie Kirkseexual nature is degenerative I couldn't be more like cruel on M's Primal carnal instincts the question is how do you lift us up to something better yes so we talked about this before um what's the difference between

Multiple Guests (mixed)so she does only lingerie pictures right so what's the difference between her and like Gigi Hadid or like any Victoria Secret model right well there's not there's not I mean is is Gigi Hadid in a really great relationship and doing great I mean I believe one of them has

Multiple Guests (mixed)like clinical depression uh she's dating Bradley Cooper I think let's again most celebrity relationships last like what six or seven years maybe well so your your point is that they what they divorce more often or what's I mean I'm asking if you want are

Multiple Guests (mixed)you are you saying she again if you're looking for celebrities for life partner road maps you're looking at the wrong people okay I mean I'm asking so you're you're fine with comparing that and being like Oh yeah they're both not H they can't find high value men or

Charlie Kirkwhatever I am very short on their long-term prospects of being a couple for the next 30 Years I mean if that's their question but but if you if you do not have to create a new road map when women were more modest in their

Charlie Kirkpresentations when women were more humble in their um in their necessarily a woman being humble or was that also the laws of the day and age where they could no in the 1950s the laws were fine I mean you couldn't you couldn't get a

Charlie Kirkdivorce cuz you never had a job you couldn't you couldn't get out of the relationship what are you talking about no fault divorce ended in the 60s or 7s you could still get a divorce it just but you had no job you had no prospects you had nothing you had children separate issue I don't I don't you're

Charlie Kirkgetting too far off off track I just I'm I'm I'm asking I'm a theoretical question if if more women than not made a commitment that we want a life partner I think the reason why you all and women

Charlie Kirkare willing to engage in hookup culture even though you know it's destructive even hold on a second even though you know it's bad for you is because deep down women tend to be more insecure than men and you think that you can get praise from Men by doing this and it

Charlie Kirkgives you temporary security and you're willing to then sacrifice long-term viability of finding a life partner for that temporary security advice that on me I I don't engage in culture at all

Charlie Kirkokay that's fine I'm just saying more broadly though that stop the C more broadly if women were willing to actually say that I am not going to present myself online I'm not going to

Charlie Kirkgive myself you would actually have more male suitors not less I'm not worried about that I'm not worried about more or less male suitors how about good ones great ones ones that you feel as if this

Multiple Guests (mixed)is the best man I've when I need to get there great men are hard to find they are I can say this I'll get there around and I'll get I need get do you so let me ask you what is more important in

Multiple Guests (mixed)your life good career or great marriage and family I want my bills paid so whatever Takes the Cake well good husband can pay the bills too yeah and I'm not necessarily looking for a good husband right now cuz I'm not looking

SPEAKER_07around okay any other thoughts on that um I was just sorry I kind of dominated there if you want keep going I guess I am pretty jaded on this conversation I didn't get to do the introductions but I do only

SPEAKER_07fans management and I think think so I I read a lot of messages I'm not on the side myself but I read a lot of messages and it kind of sucks because you see so many messages coming in Daily that are

Multiple Guests (mixed)like I wish I wasn't with my ugly wife right now you're so much hotter so like for me as someone who's single and like in their 20s it's hard to be like yeah I'm going to be a really perfect woman for like these kind of men does that

Multiple Guests (mixed)honest I even got that being on your podcast I even got a message on my only fans from your podcast being like I my you know my girlfriend is so disgusting I don't like her I sub to your only fans cuz you're so much better than her really hard to see both these convers no

Charlie Kirkthat's okay but you're you're actually proving my point is you're seeing a window into the depraved male sexual nature so then you have a choice you can say forget all men and become a lesbian and like just forget it right I don't do no I'm not saying you want to do that

Charlie Kirkright or you could be like I actually think that men have a proper role in society most men today are grown infants and women have a a you don't agree with that well no I agree that they're grown infants but it's not myob job to fix you

Charlie KirkI'm not saying it's your job to fix you it's your it's you have a moral obligation not to make it worse well how am I making it worse cuz I have an only fans yeah I'd say that you're participating in that okay but okay so what exactly have all your it's all your

Charlie Kirkfault no I'm not saying it's all your fault but if it's but I'm saying this as as as uh agreeably as I can if if you are producing sexually explicit content online you are increasing the supply and

Multiple Guests (mixed)so not decreasing the supply so even if I didn't have an old even though you're a small part of it I gu it okay even if I didn't have only fans the comments that I've gotten on all of my social media without it have been even more degrading than the comments I've gotten

Charlie Kirkon my only so but but you're blaming the comments for your action not not taking responsibility for your action no no because even if I post a selfie of just my face be like I want to come all over that I'm like I'm eating a cookie okay

Charlie Kirkbut but again you're you're seeing you're seeing a window into the depraved sexual nature and so how is that my issue fix it yourself you weirdo okay but you're right that that could be an attitude and that has been the attitude

Charlie Kirkthe last 30 years where has it gotten us less people married less people H in happy relationships so both sides have work to do if you're a panel of men I'd be talking completely are you saying it's a woman's both job to fix men from being depraved I have an entire chapter of

Charlie Kirkthis book about how we should ban pornography sign that for me later I'll buy it you're getting close to earning it um I earned it um but no I have an entire chapter of this book on how men need to stop watching pornography and stop being no I agree I don't watch both

Charlie KirkSid at all I don't think any growth to do but we're here at a female driven panel so I'm trying to yeah you know hold on let me throw a little hand anyway yes I'm way over time but yeah

Charlie Kirkyou want to ban pornography yes absolutely I totally age you agree I agree but so you're an only fan so help me but I don't do pornography is it lingerie you said yeah it's borderline but yeah yeah borderline but it's a Victorious Secret model fair enough yeah

Brian Atlasokay you do only fans are you in favor do you object to Charlie's position on Banning porn um yeah which would correspond in lead you're in favor of it you earned a book with you mean like if

Brian Atlasif I'm like against it I Kit Kat Julie he wants to ban porn so you'd be banning what you do oh I'm so excited I say Julie ban porn yes I'm taking this all the way back I'm taking

Brian Atlasthis all the way back to Canada it literally says Julie B back to Canada all the way back speaking of Canada Charlie do you think we should Annex Canada no I don't want Canada nobody wants Canada I hate it there too worry have time for just a few more question I

Charlie Kirkgot likees is okay though guys but think about I'm just saying that you have to then act in the direction of the man you want and men has to act in the direction

Multiple Guests (mixed)of the woman they want I agree and at some point maybe romantically we can you can we can meet halfway what if it's a man who wants an only fans girl and an only fans girl who wants he's a degenerate I do want to

Brian Atlasshift gears here but you of course you get what you want but that's not what one ought want okay by the way those watching uh afterwards we do have Andrew Wilson he's going to do a call in once uh once Charlie has to go but uh I do

Brian Atlaswant to ask going around the table to open something else up to the table would you date a guy who owned Firearms yeah yep I think so of course

Multiple Guests (mixed)depends yes AR15 I we had this conversation before I don't know enough about guns to have an opinion it's the big scary black one that scares me so

Charlie Kirkprobably not all right yes absolutely yes y yes yes oh man all right okay well good job I got to run so can I just say one thing in closing though um there's a

Charlie Kirklot of attention towards that men need to be better men and that's a thing I think that women are exempt far too often that conversation wom can be better women there you go and so you have to take it take it as a good sport I'm so happy thank you the most important thing you can do is give your

Charlie Kirklife to Jesus and to give your life to God see she she rolls her eyes you you take the book back take it back read the book because here's why spread the word Jesus loves you and he died for you

Brian Atlasloves me but let me find it out on my own please you could find it out on your own one question about the book if that's cool uh in the book there is there a specific chapter about dating oh yeah no there there's actually a whole

Charlie Kirkthing about uh life advice for male and men and women I'm super excited to read this it's actually not even funny you're going to read it no I think you'll actually to read it I think you'll actually enjoy part of it Blake what part of the book is that I'm trying to find I'm going to read the hell out of

Charlie Kirkit are you joking find it somebody said it's advice for women and advice for men I don't know changing yourself yeah oh yeah uh it's here advice for men and

Charlie Kirkwomen right here should we do like a read a paragraph no not that's how about this date seriously right away with an eye towards marriage and family which we talked about if your goal is to put family and children above your career

Charlie Kirkavoid an educational path that has too much debt um watch your weight and do your best to maintain your attractiveness uh I like listen to your parents especially your mom and don't be afraid to ask her for advice she was

Charlie Kirkcrazy though do you have a dad yeah but he he was does your dad love you yeah I think so okay then ask him for advice what else you got there volunteer to help out your Sunday school nursery you can laugh at that but it's a

Brian Atlasgreat way to see if you like good segment thank you Charlie for joining Charlie Kirk is wait one sec oh sorry hold on I got to play this buy the book everybody guys get the book Charlie I got to I got to play this right before

Brian Atlasyou leave wait wait wait hold on wait stop stop stop stop okay He's a brave and decent man he's a pioneer he's a Pioneer thank you for coming Charlie good to have you uh wait Madison Madison

SPEAKER_07Madison bye can you sit I'm taking a book huh bye no I got it I got it come sit Julie

Multiple Guests (mixed)B hilarious that is so amazing I'm keep with me until the doesn't he have like a porn addict or something he had a problem with porn oh I'm not sure I he admits he h

Multiple Guests (mixed)really so that's it is it is a big problem it actually helps women um bye guys women who are marriage um if they watch porn they spice up their I heard they

Multiple Guests (mixed)had better body body positivity because only fans they're seeing so many different body shapes and sizes now having fans that a lot of women are saying oh 19yearold like it used to

Multiple Guests (mixed)be I don't think it has to take to this level to like get that body positivity but no of course I mean and and apparently in porn addiction a friend of mine's a neurologist he says almost all

Multiple Guests (mixed)the patients are want add tap out like some people it's like a daily addiction like hey guys we have uh we have Andrew Wilson I should have mentioned this we have guys we have

Brian AtlasAndrew Wilson who's gonna we're calling him right now Nick if you can get that going and uh yeah yeah we'll get we'll get people water and stuff want me to get up and

Brian Atlasget it uh guys thank you to Charlie Kirk for coming here's his book WR Wing Revolution uh we'll get those uh we'll probably just take these off the table for for now

Brian Atlasso uh Maddie maybe just put them on the kitchen island there for a bit then we're going to in just a moment here we're going to have the other girls tap back

Brian Atlasin and uh Nick you got you got Andrew I'm going to read some chats while that comes through grid to go cart Sports Pride defiles a woman and will

Brian Atlasbring her low and then disgrace comes upon her because the arrogance is an Abomination true wisdom is incompatible with pride does each lady celebrate or shun

Brian Atlaspride is this a question for the panel too late does each lady celebrate do you shun Pride who would shun Pride did you guys shun Pride sh that come on thank

Brian Atlasyou grid to go-kart sports that's I guess a a a nod head nod to grid grid One Motorsports we have Joe Murphy gold digger in the sky is based and honest

Brian Atlaswhat's your standard for your partner's income you should prioritize making some Junior Pilots before it's too late Oshkosh 2024 fires in the sky baby okay

Multiple Guests (mixed)I'm not going to Oshkosh this year but thanks all right okay uh what's your standard for your partner's income I don't think I have a standard rule okay and most importantly I have to

Multiple Guests (mixed)like them too high for them maybe as long probably they canay if he's asking he already doesn't have

Brian Atlasit uh yes bring him in yo what's up Andrew H guys for just a sec yo yo can you hear us I can can you hear me all right we can we can we had a uh I don't know if you're watching for a little bit

Andrew Wilsonthere we had a uh doozy of a stream uh no I wasn't able to catch a lot of it unfortunately well you caught were you caught the tail end uh well I actually I caught the first part oh the

Andrew Wilsonfirst part okay yeah I see my biggest fan back there Whispering about me look at you back there she no she asked who you were I was trying to Hype you up I was trying to Hype you up she was hyping you up she she was just smiling how are you it's

Andrew Wilsonnice to see you again how you been I've been great how are you yeah see I knew my biggest all I had to say is my biggest fan I knew that she would know it was her it was me obviously yeah of

Brian Atlascourse of course all right so uh I think we're going to we're going to tap you guys out then you guys are going to be in Surprise there's going to be a surprise but uh so why don't we get

Brian Atlasactually will one of hm let me think how I want to do this yeah we'll tap you guys guys out let's bring the other girls back in same seats and uh Andrew why don't you introduce yourself real

Andrew Wilsonquick yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible I'm a political analyst political yeah a political sist and um I also like to engage in a little bit of debate from time to

Brian Atlastime all right welcome Andrew sorry guys we're playing musical chairs here so we're tapping people back in wait where did the other two go wait did they

Brian Atlasleave oh okay okay didn't see you guys okay all right we're tapping people back in she's coming huh what's

Andrew Wilsonup I think somebody's in the bathroom maybe yeah she okay good time for the bathroom there um gentleman's name is Andrew yes this is Andrew Wilson I mean gentlemen might be that might be a

Brian Atlaslittle Andre a little far you got a you got a little fluff on your mic microphone Andrew my OCD is going to go crazy here look at that you got a little couple white specs you got white spec

Andrew WilsonAndrew how you how you gonna do that me your OCD is going nuts I can't yeah we got we got can't do it is it gone Brian did we get rid of the did we get rid of the white

Brian Atlasfluff for you uh I think it's good I think it's good I think it's good all right guys I hope you enjoyed Charlie Wilson we've just tagged in we wison

Brian Atlasyou guys are related didn't know that that's crazy um we've tagged in excuse me Andrew Wilson uh in place

Brian Atlasof uh Charlie Kirk there so uh once nice to meet you all by the way hi okay except for you except for you the pilot

Andrew Wilsonexcept for you everyone else they're good uh oh just you I got a feeling we're gonna I I just got a feeling I got a gut feeling this evening

Andrew Wilsonwell why don't you guys start tangling on whatever you want to uh tangle on then what I what I do to you well what's that you don't okay what yeah yeah well I was just wondering if I could ask you

Andrew Wilsona couple of questions change the split color and we start with um at the beginning of the podcast and I only I I was only able to watch about 45 minutes but um but I did hear a little bit of

Andrew Wilsonyour backstory you're kind of um a gold digger by your own admission right I mean it's tongue and it's sort of a joke yeah yeah yeah sort of a joke I get it but what was interesting is you said

Andrew Wilsonyou were in a relationship with two different men for 18 years is that correct correct okay but then you said that you were in a relationship with somebody else and he put those relationships on

Multiple Guests (mixed)hold yeah as it got more serious I tried to make that work as the only relationship and then it failed and then how many years were you with that primary relationship in total it was like between five and six I think I'd have to

Andrew Wilsongo back and look at the old calendar and you did drop those other men right correct so then you weren't really with those men for 18 years in total

Andrew Wilsonyeah well I mean are you saying that it was 18 years split yes well how old are you 47 48 at the

Andrew Wilsonend of the year okay so 48 so this would mean that you took um what 20 20 24 years you've been dating these two men

Andrew Wilsonon and off you just said it wasn't right because of the one in the middle so no yeah but you but you claimed that it was concurrent so that means back to back so you weren't with them for all 18 years

Andrew Wilsonor there was a split or what what like tell me the deal here so I understand concurrent means at the same time back toback is in serial or tandem yeah so you're dating them both at the same time that would be concurrent so anyway corre

Andrew Wilsonso so back yeah correct so back to the dating these are you trying to figure out when I started dating same time 18 years right are you trying to figure out when I started dating men no I'm trying

Andrew Wilsonto figure out if there was a gap between this 18e Mark that you dated these two men and the six years that you had with this other

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