Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! HEATED DEBATE With Feminists! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #172

Date: 2024-06-24

Duration: 8h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCharlie Kirk >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_03Shai / Imogen (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_06Serena(guest)

SPEAKER_09Charlie Kirk(guest)

SPEAKER_11TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_14Multiple Guests (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroCharlie Kirk introduction — announces himself as Erica's husband, founder of Turning Point USA, 30yo, 2 kids under 2, book promo week.

“I am Charlie I'm Erica's husband and uh father of two we just had a new baby uh so we have two under two”

Key MomentCharlie Kirk explains three waves of feminism to panel (suffrage, Gloria Steinem/workforce, third wave = any inequity is wrong).

“first wave feminism would be like the Equal Rights Amendment...second wave feminism was like Gloria Steinem...third wave feminism is that any inequity that we see between men or women is inherently wrong”

ControversyHeated debate: should women be drafted into military? Charlie argues men should protect women; panel debates equality vs. protection.

“I would say to reach optimal results if we're speaking on war then yes we should Shield women from the draft”

Key MomentCharlie Kirk describes encountering a Grizzly bear in the wild during Man vs. Bear debate segment.

“I've seen a grizzly bear up close and personal and I've lived right only them that is not fun you don't want to see a grizzly bear”

OtherCharlie Kirk departs the show at ~222 minutes after book promo and panel debate.

“He's a brave and decent man he's a pioneer he's a Pioneer thank you for coming Charlie”

IntroAndrew Wilson joins the show mid-episode, introduces himself as host of The Crucible and political analyst.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible I'm a political analyst”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson interrogates Amy about her 18-year polyamorous dating arrangement, challenging the timeline math and motivations.

“I'm just trying to figure out why how long you were actually with these two guys”

QuoteLeah reveals ex-boyfriend prostituted himself for meth — Brian calls it 'winning the Whatever podcast'.

“he would prostitute himself for math oh that's horrible...he would to men to men”

ControversyAndrew Wilson confronts Imogen about choosing OnlyFans over her Catholic mother's wishes; extended exchange about trusting parental guidance.

“your mom says don't do this...why don't you trust her wisdom”

QuoteAndrew Wilson to Imogen: 'You are one of the most dishonest trolls, you're even bad at trolling.'

“you are one dishonest trolls you're even bad at trolling you're even bad at that”

OtherBody count round: Shai claims 'off the scales, lost count at like 80, past 80'. Imogen claims 0 (disputed by Andrew and audience).

“my body count is off the scales I don't even know I lost count at like 80”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

All 9 female guests and Charlie Kirk introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Followed by relationship status round.

Feminist clip reaction — liberal women wanting traditional men

Brian plays viral clip of liberal woman lamenting that masculine men who provide tend to be conservative. Panel reacts.

Who pays on first date; feminism definitions

Discussion of first date payment norms. Charlie Kirk explains three waves of feminism. Panel debates whether they identify as feminists.

Women in military draft debate

Debate whether women should be subject to military conscription (Selective Service). Charlie Kirk argues men should always pay and shields women from war. Panel offers varied views. Heather makes uterus/repopulation argument.

Birth control, capitalism, wage gap

Brian's previous comments about hormonal birth control affecting women's brains discussed. Charlie expands on it. Discussion of gender wage gap, capitalist systems, and equal pay for equal work.

Man vs. Bear debate

Classic viral debate: would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or a random bear? Shai chooses bear; most others choose man. Charlie Kirk's perspective on bear vs. man.

Would you date a conservative; religious men

Panel discusses whether they would date a conservative or Trumpy man. Charlie recommends religious men. Discussion of finding good men and Catholic faith.

Charlie Kirk departs; Andrew Wilson joins; ratings round

Charlie Kirk leaves at ~222 min. Brief transition, ratings round conducted, Andrew Wilson (The Crucible) joins the panel.

Andrew Wilson debates Amy about polyamorous arrangement

Andrew Wilson interrogates Amy about her 18-year concurrent relationship arrangement with two men, questioning the timeline and motivations.

Extended panel discussions — dating, relationships, social topics

Various topics including dating apps, body counts, OnlyFans, feminism continued. Multiple TTS rating rounds throughout.

Andrew Wilson vs. Australian OnlyFans guests; body counts

Andrew Wilson confronts Imogen about Catholic upbringing vs. OnlyFans career. Questions why she won't trust her mother's advice. Heated back-and-forth. Body count round: Shai claims 80+, Imogen claims 0 (disputed).

End of show roast, wrap-up

Roast section. Andrew Wilson and Shai/Imogen trade insults. Show wraps. Announcement of next stream.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaswelcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape I'm your host Brian Alice thanks for tuning in tonight uh few quick announcements this podcast is viewer supported heavy YouTube demonetization so please

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Brian Atlaslink for that is in the description we do prioritize messages that are made via streamlabs since we have Charlie here for the sake of a smooth stream we have temporarily boosted the re and TTS

Brian Atlastriggers 200 and 300 respectively if it's too disruptive we uh may have to boost it higher temporarily pause it time permitting we will try to get through all reads and TTS while Charlie is still here you can see the

Brian Atlasdescription for all triggers in full details with that said we're going to just Jump Right In we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location

Multiple Guests (mixed)and occupation go ahead my name is Karina and I turning 28 next month I am currently well I'm going to be a law

Multiple Guests (mixed)student in August so are you currently a student right now I am currently waiting for school to start um I work at a firm but you so you're like a paralal or you have your undergrad in something I have my undergrad in Psychology and I'm a law

Multiple Guests (mixed)Clerk okay very cool what about you hi I'm Lissa I'm 21 I live here in IV and I just graduated from UCSB so I'm actually going to start my new job as a

Multiple Guests (mixed)behavioral interventionist and Trauma caregiver and what did you uh what was your major at sociology sociology okay

Multiple Guests (mixed)so all right what about you hi I'm Caitlyn I'm 20 and I go to UCR and I'm a student you see riers sign yeah okay

Brian Atlasyeah what are you studying media media just media like media and cultural media studies okay and and cultural studies is one a minor or it's like this that's the

Brian Atlasprogram one major media and cult studies and and you're from originally from uh Riverside Fullerton Fullerton okay got it what about you I'm Amy I'll be 48 at

Brian Atlasthe end of the year and I'm a pilot and have been a bit of a gold digger you you've been like past tense or on and off current okay been a bit of a gold

Brian Atlasdigger you also uh hold on I had some notes Here In addition to that hold on you're also pilot correct model you said

Brian Atlasmodel and what's the what's the other thing that you do high highend I've dated wealthy men okay who've provided for me but you're also a high-end companion do I have that yeah I've dated

Multiple Guests (mixed)wealthy men Who provided for me okay got it all right and you is it a when you say pilot is this a commercial license commercially licensed I've flown cargo and Charter and I've been a flight

Shai / Imogen (mixed)instructor okay wow all right cool what about you I'm shy I'm 19 and I'm also from the Gold Coast all right and are you in school or anything like that no

Brian Atlaswhat do you do for work only fans okay how long you've been doing that for uh 6 months 6 months all right and any school

Shai / Imogen (mixed)at all like college what do they call it uni um yeah but I was doing my uh S three for beauty but then I kind of just ditched that and became an only fence

Serenafor beauty okay got it like Cosmetics or yeah what about you hi my name is Serena I am 21 and I just recently graduated

Serenafrom UCR and this fall I will be attending SF state to get my Master's and uh what did you do for your undergrad uh biology biology and what

Multiple Guests (mixed)you going uh for your Masters what you um biom yeah biome IAL science with the concentration of biotechnology are you wanting to be a doctor or uh I just want to go into research research okay what

Multiple Guests (mixed)about you um I'm imin I'm 18 and I'm from Australia Gold Coast all right and what do you do for work only fans okay what about you hi I'm Leah I'm 26 I'm

Multiple Guests (mixed)from North Carolina and I do marketing all right welcome hi I'm Heather I'm 35 currently a stay-at-home life um I was a corporate director of food safety and quality

Charlie Kirkassurance for a very large food manufacturer and I will be a law student in August okay and uh Charlie what about you I am uh Charlie I'm Erica's husband

Charlie Kirkand uh father of two we just had a new baby uh so we have two under two so uh and yeah it's book promo week that's the only reason I was able to get away there go uh it's one of my first trips since

Charlie Kirkwe've had the the new little one gotcha age uh of the baby or me both one uh one month I'm 30 years old all right 30 got it and you're also the uh the founder of a small little thing called

Brian AtlasTurning Point turning point and uh podcast Radio and all sorts of fun stuff all right rock rock and roll welcome everybody so we're going to go around the table once more what's everybody's current relationship status so are you

Brian Atlassingle talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married Harum polycule there's all kinds of it's 2024 you know all kinds of Arrangements if you're single how long

Multiple Guests (mixed)have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead um I would say I'm off the market I'm I've been dating somebody for a few years now all

Brian Atlasright so we'll say relationship sure yes but you say off the market okay but you said like two or three years uh two years yeah two years are you guys boyfriend girlfriend or is there no

Brian Atlastitle there's not I don't like the titles before marriage but is it exclusive like monogamous exclusive monogamy yeah we'll just see two years yeah longest relationship um I think

Multiple Guests (mixed)like three and a half four years maybe all right yeah what about you I'm single I've been single since 2023 and my longest relationship is like two

Brian AtlasISU like the beginning of 2023 or like the end of 2023 you've been single um like April is so about a year you've been single and sorry longest

Brian Atlasrelationship uh two wish years two all right what about you I'm in a relationship about three years three

Brian Atlasyears okay and where did you guys meet UCR UCR okay and uh is he like also you're are you going into your senior

Brian Atlasyear at UCR yeah is he also going into his senior okay are you guys both in the like are you guys in sororities yeah yeah same one is that how you guys know each other yeah okay is he is he a Frack ey or yeah okay did

Brian Atlasyou meet at a frat party or something like that or uh he just reached out to me on Instagram oh he slid the DM okay yeah all right did you you guys didn't have like a class together or anything you just no same dorm anything like that

Brian Atlasokay you went same school slid into the DMS it worked okay cool and uh is this your longest relationship that you had only relationship only relationship all right what about you I date two people

Multiple Guests (mixed)casually I've been seeing both of them for 18 years and they are my longest relationships okay so date I've never had to write that dating two for 18

Brian Atlasyears all right um have you ever been married no engaged never married engaged how many proposals any proposals many many proposals no acceptance of the proposals they just did they not they

Multiple Guests (mixed)just didn't meet the or do you not want to get mared I'd like to get the last round of the draft pick that's what I'm waiting for just the very last the last Dr biry yeah okay uh and so these two

Brian Atlasmen that you've been dating both for 18 years mhm do they uh they know about each other yeah and they're are they dating other uh women not that I know of

Brian Atlasbut you know they can they can okay and so you're you said you've been casually dating them for uh 18 years yeah we don't live together we have no plans for marriage that's all I mean by that do they live in different parts of the

Brian Atlascountry so you'll like fly out how often would you say you see uh each of them um every other week or so when I feel like it and they fly you out or did did you have something no okay just learning

Brian Atlashe's taking it in yeah we meet wherever we feel like it okay world's small everybody's got airports no big deal all right and how did you meet those guys

Brian Atlasinternet okay all right and uh in this 18-year period did you ever have like a third person you were dating like you'll

Multiple Guests (mixed)date guy here guy there so someone I met in 2017 I thought I'd probably cash it in and end up with that maybe permanently sorry cash like cash it in trade and

Multiple Guests (mixed)every everything else my freedom other opportunity whatever and pick this person um and that failed after a few very romantic years so that was about five years maybe six I'd have to go back

Brian Atlasand look and the the two men that you're dating uhr we didn't we we hung it up for those years okay uh but the two men that you have been dating for the past 18 years you mentioned that you're I'm

Brian Atlassorry uh was it profession not professional gold digger what was it you can say that I don't mind okay uh are you did you will dig

Multiple Guests (mixed)them I mean they're they're wealthy that's my type that's the sort I like what's the like what is the procedure for for gold digging I don't like what's the process walk me through I only know

Multiple Guests (mixed)my life um yeah so I can't speak for everyone else maybe they get you nice gifts they fly you out sure she flies herself I mean that takes a long time in little planes so not usually I like to

Brian Atlasbeing back and let the pilots do you own maybe you own do you own a plane or anything can we next okay that'd be you could you could try to go dig a plane right that that's like that would be a

Brian Atlasgood put it on the resume I'm I'm fine for I'm fine for transportation somebody bought me a plane that's that's a w right okay what about you I've been single for 2 years all right two years

Brian Atlaslongest uh relationship any relationships uh yeah one year one year okay all right uh and that was in Australia I'm assuming yeah yeah uh was

Brian Atlashe I've heard this term Bogan was was he a Bogan yeah I could say that can you explain just for the viewers in the panel who might not know what a Bogan is

Shai / Imogen (mixed)um it's just like the lingo it's just like how they speak and like what they do like walk around in thongs all the time and like shorts and like

Shai / Imogen (mixed)sandals that's Australian for Australian for sandal yeah and like singlets like singlets yeah like just like like wrestling singlets like they

Brian Atlasjust super fun they just pin somebody and text them or okay uh okay what about you I've been single for like a month or two oh uh how long are you sorry about

Serenathat uh how long were you dating that guy 3 years oh rip uh Frack ey was it the Frack ey yeah but I knew him before

Brian Atlashe joined a frat okay so you said single for one month yeah about or so and that was that your longest relationship yeah 3 years okay uh why

Multiple Guests (mixed)did you guys break up um it just didn't work out didn't work out yeah who broke up with who um I guess you could say he broke up

Multiple Guests (mixed)with me but yeah what did you do what did you do to him I didn't I didn't necessarily do anything or just more the fact that like did you slash his tires

SPEAKER_07no I'm not crazy I swear but um we broke up because of like cultural differences oh

Multiple Guests (mixed)uh was he like he he was Arab yeah so what what were the differences that were sticking points in the relationship like culturally like if we were to get married it wouldn't work

Multiple Guests (mixed)out like I would have to convert to Islam are you religious at all or not really not really but you so you didn't want to convert basically no okay and

Brian Atlasyou dated them for 3 years yeah did you did was this like U something that came along later on in the relationship or was he always kind of like we talked about it but like we

Brian Atlasnever like really talked about it until yeah recently is there a doubt would there have been a dowy is that part of I don't know how it works what do you mean

Brian Atlasthe dowy like you would pay I think you or like the your family would pay was it a bride price or something I don't know I don't know how it that's very serious Islam I don't think that would that no

Brian Atlasin any case cultural differences okay uh and so you guys uh split up you've been single for one month any any rebounds no focusing on myself like sigap any guys

Brian Atlasfrom sigap no no Sig up rebounds no Sig up rebounds Pike do you guys have a pike a pike Charlie were you theity I didn't go to college didn't oh that's right I

Brian Atlasdidn't go to college closer to the mic yeah yeah uh okay so so no rebound then okay but are you uh you kind of taking a break or you uh you know you're looking

Brian Atlasfor uh a new a new boo no definitely not definitely not okay what about you um I've been single for like a year and a bit one year okay yeah and any

Multiple Guests (mixed)relationships have you had a relationship oh yeah um for like 5 months but we broke up like a year and a bit ago okay was he also a yeah he was like an AE oh I don't what is that oh like he like TN and like he has like

Multiple Guests (mixed)tattoos everywhere and like he's got like a rat's tail a rat tail I yeah like a ratty it's like a little plat a ratty is that they're called ratties okay um and yeah he a bit of Bogan yeah how do

Multiple Guests (mixed)you define Bogan like it's kind of like redneck kind of like really Aussie like really Aussie like I don't really know how to define it but kind of just like Aussie and like you're just like yeah

Multiple Guests (mixed)like I don't really know how to define it okay all right yeah just like really like big Aussie big Aussie yeah he he was overweight oh no no oh okay no like a big Aussie as in like he was really

Multiple Guests (mixed)really Aussie oh okay yeah okay all right all right what about you um I'm single have been for a year and a couple months um my longest relationship consecutively was a few months like

Brian Atlasmaybe three months but it was kind of on and off for four years and is that the one that ended about a year ago no okay so but your longest relationship was a few months but it was on again off again

Multiple Guests (mixed)for a couple years yeah okay how many times on and off or off and on rather oh God dozens if not hundreds wait hundreds yeah he was real into

Brian Atlasdrugs that would do it that would do it um which what was his drug of

Brian Atlaschoice meth oh did you partake no no okay not you but he wait so you said you

Brian Atlason and off hundreds of times how early on into the this multi-year long off again on again relationship did

Multiple Guests (mixed)you find out he was on meth like the first time you guys broke up no so I met him in middle school and then it was kind of like a talking stage

Multiple Guests (mixed)kind of thing for a couple years and we started dating um and then it was on and off again and probably about 3 years in is when he was like oh yeah I tried meth and I was like oh okay and he assured me

Multiple Guests (mixed)that he was not going to and he did not like it um and then we got back together and about years later he was like yeah no I saw my body under the pier for Math and I was like oh okay

Multiple Guests (mixed)wait he you what found his body he would prostitute himself for math oh that's horrible uh what hold on to

Brian Atlasum yeah I hate that for us to like he would to men to men and you were dating during this time yeah it was not a good moment I think you win the whatever

Brian Atlaspodcast that's pretty wild no no no no need to apologize um uh okay is he okay now oh I don't really know the last time I talked to him he it

Brian Atlaswas like a year ago when I bought my house and he was like oh congrats on life and I was like good to know you're alive dude so yeah huh uh okay so off off again on again hundreds of times

Brian Atlasuh all right we'll come back to that a little I'll just write down meth okay uh what about you that'll remind me go ahead what about you I am married and my longest relationship was about 12 years

Brian Atlasis that your current that was my ex-husband is so this is your second marriage correct okay and you have kids we do not how long have you been married April 5th so a couple months and how

Brian Atlaslong were you dating before a year and a half or two years so you've been together for about two years now yes okay two years and no kids at all no

Brian Atlaskids Nei do you want kids no no kid um don't want kids okay do not like kids cannot have kids don't don't like oh can't have kids correct I had some

Brian Atlasmedical issues about five years ago and got than taken out oh like a hysterctomy oh okay sorry to hear that all right and well before that though were you inclined to have kids or still not so

Brian Atlasmuch I've never really had the maternal Instinct um I've always been very career and school driven mhm okay all right uh and your previous marriage that was the

Brian Atlasone that was 12 years correct yeah we are married for eight of those and put together for 12 okay all right and Charlie uh I think you kind of went over it a little bit kind of Hit the the top

Charlie Kirkpoints so so married for how long we've been married we got married in May of 21 so that is uh 3 years and then together how long total 5 and a half years yeah

Brian Atlasall right got it and two kids under two two kids congrats than you boy girl or yeah a boy girl combo all right girl is older how many how many kids total are you aiming for uh we'll see like a whole

Charlie Kirkuh Battalion yeah we'll see they they a quiver is supposed to be five so we'll see I don't think we'll get there what's that what's that verse about children are a gift from the Lord it it's something along the lines quiver which

Brian Atlasis five so there's this verse though and it's something along the lines of uh children in the 's youth are like arrows in the hand something I'm tot quiver verse yeah so fiveish but I don't think

Brian Atlaswe'll get there but we're we're super blessed and happy perfect cool cool all right so that's everybody's relationship status Charlie I mean I'd like to you heard a couple of the uh girl stories here I don't know if you had any that

Charlie Kirkyou want I'm curious about the um the the gold digging thing do both men know about each other they do and are are they married or are they single they're single and they're they're cool with

Multiple Guests (mixed)that yeah everybody's different no just tell me more I'm curious about it what would you like to know do they pay you uh not in so much as actual handing me buckets of cash that'd be cool though um

Charlie Kirkbut yeah both of them have been very generous I like things that way okay keeps the schedule free or two so we can all see each other do they have they ever met no and so they they're in like

Charlie Kirkdifferent do would you mind if they met uh with me are are you talking about like biblically or something I'm not not bially no I'm I'm just curious like if they were ever to like meet each other

Brian Atlassure that be sure whatever okay interesting Nick if you can change the split back to it yeah um did you have any other questions I'm just why not three more money

Multiple Guests (mixed)right I think everything in moderation especially moderation like so so two's moderation for me it's what works it's I I like my life as it is so that's what works if

Brian Atlasmaybe I'll change decide differently tomorrow cool no I'm it's a it's a Brave New World for me I'm just learning okay uh I wanted to ask Charlie do you have any

Charlie Kirkplans to uh run for political office I no I do not God forid no I'm very happy the way I am no no I'm too young actually oh you have to be 35 right yeah that's right I'm only 30 so very happy

Charlie Kirkwith the life we have right now so yeah super blessed not even in the future no no okay you don't want it no yeah okay no I I love hosting radio love doing the podcast love doing books traveling the country so

Brian Atlasokay got it I want to start off the show we're going to react to a clip oh wait I did I pull it up of mine great uh no no not of yours but I definitely want you to weigh win weigh in on it excuse me so Nick it's actually in the drop box

Brian Atlasfolder I forgot to put it on one of the tabs it's uh let me get you I'm going to see if I can just send you the link but one sec actually just go ahead pull

Brian Atlasup the Dropbox folder my bad forgot to get this pulled up it's uh Dropbox and then the videos tab uh

Brian Atlaspodcast podcast folder nope NOP nope in there podcast so it's actually right there the first one the first video wait no no no it's not the it's it's in this one yeah that

Brian Atlasone uh you should actually just pull it over to the tab do you want to know one the audio please okay can you pull it over please than you got it

Brian Atlasyeah were you were you able to like pull it into one of the tabs yeah okay all right oops oh that laptop came out of nowhere

Brian Atlasokay that okay wow all right uh Nick can you okay at the very bottom

Brian Atlasthere Windows tutorial okay okay and that all right go ahead and uh start from the beginning please please all right we're going to have you guys react to

SPEAKER_07this do you want to know one of the saddest realizations I recently had was that as a liberal woman it is really hard to find a man who is willing to

SPEAKER_07play the more traditional masculine role in the relationship in today's day and age who is not a conservative a man who wants to pay on the first state who wants to open your door who has that

SPEAKER_07want and desire to take care of you and to provide who was not a conservative and obviously as a liberal woman I do want to be respected for my Independence and I do want to have my own autonomy in

SPEAKER_07the relationship and not be confined or conform to the traditional female Homemaker childbearing role and most of the men that I've dated who do have that

SPEAKER_07more natural provider masculinity about them are normally conservative so I don't really know what to do because I don't want to compromise my morals and values just to find a man but

Brian Atlasam I asking to have my cake and eat it too all all right so we're going to get the girls' reactions just going around the table so what are your thoughts on the clip and do you think that liberal

Charlie Kirkwomen deserve chivalrous treatment starting with you go ah my question is is liberal the same as Progressive uh they're largely Sy they're pretty pretty much synonymous

Multiple Guests (mixed)right they're cousins they're not exactly the same I think because of that it'll be hard for her to find somebody who's you know anti who has anti-liberal morals while

Multiple Guests (mixed)still being Progressive at the same time um with that being said I think she is also grouping morals into just like political values which is kind of dumb I

Multiple Guests (mixed)think she can find a guy who's morally in the right place with his head and still doesn't mind that you know she goes to work I don't know okay yeah your

Multiple Guests (mixed)thoughts um I actually agree with everything you just said because I feel like that's the only type of guys I date like every guy I've dated feds under that so it's not that rare wait every guy you've dated fits under what what the type of guy that she described she's

Multiple Guests (mixed)looking for so like liberal feminist Progressive I I don't date conservative men men that are like straight up conservative but I but you still get the traditional treatment yeah

Multiple Guests (mixed)okay all right what about you I don't really have an opinion do you think men should pay the first date everybody for the most part yeah it shows your role as like

Charlie Kirkyour willing and provider like I totally agree yeah any guy who went 5050 with me is like so what do you think of the feminist movement that says women should go 50/50 what do you guys think of that unlike the First on dates and I'm

Multiple Guests (mixed)totally down for that and then we're friends for life we're not we're not dating if we're going 50-50 I go 50-50 with my guy friends personally well so yeah we'll go around the table uh who

Brian Atlasshould pay on the first date uh can can you tilt the microphone down just to Tad sure if it's the actual date it's the man a little more yeah okay what about

Multiple Guests (mixed)you the man the man um I think it depends on who asked like who asked the person on the date so like if I asked

Multiple Guests (mixed)mhm my boyfriend on a date well so first date oh this is for first date cuz or even your boyfriend you would pay with your boyfriend wow or like like say if I

Brian Atlasinitiated the first date then I feel like I should pay okay well let with your boyfriend when you guys go on on dates you've been dating for 3 years do you

Multiple Guests (mixed)guys kind of uh is it 50/50 or how's it with your boyfriend I mean he like usually initiates to pay but I try to pay and help like not what you mean you

Brian Atlastry or like cuz he doesn't let me so okay so like overwhelmingly for like dates and stuff he'll pay yeah okay and then before you met him if you were going like going on first

Brian Atlaswhat was your experience there he'll usually pay he the guy will pay cuz you said whoever asked should pay for First Dates have you ever asked a guy out no interesting okay uh what

Multiple Guests (mixed)about you who should pay on the first date so that's she's correct that's the typical etiquette rule as whoever asked is the payer uh um for me in my romantic life I like generous men as we've talked about adnasium so I would not be

Shai / Imogen (mixed)attracted to a guy who wanted has it been adnasium not yet I don't know if it's been ADN what about you I think the guy but yeah I honestly don't mind like I wouldn't go

Shai / Imogen (mixed)50/50 with the bill I would rather pay the full amount or he like pay the full amount you know what I mean but

Multiple Guests (mixed)yeah yeah typically I think usually the guy should pay for the first date but then I feel like after you guys been like dating for a while then usually

Serenalike in my P experience I would take turns like if I'm paying for dinner then he would pay for like dessert or well you were in a relationship for 3 years right so was that your three-year

TTS Readerrelationship Mike Davis donated $300 yeah thank you Mike Kirk pan epitomizes modern culture where a pack of nobody girls can be on the same panel as a man

Brian Atlasof stature like Charlie you have a lifetime free pass of BK Burger King America great he he owns like 100 does he that's him Mike Davis he's longtime supporter are you serious that That's

Brian AtlasMike Davis he owns um I want to meet him that's cool well we'll arrange it uh he owns like hundreds of Burger King Burger could be nicer but I I would like to beet yeah he's a little he's a little sassy he's a little sassy but thank you

Brian AtlasMike Davis he could be a person wait so going back to you with your relationship uh you know what was the dynamic there um definitely when we first started dating he would pay for a lot more cuz

Multiple Guests (mixed)he had like a source of income okay and then uh the longer that like we started dating it definitely went more 50/50 but also it kind of depended like if I

Multiple Guests (mixed)wanted to go somewhere more expensive but he like didn't want to eat there then I would pay because I want to go there what about you um I'm like 50/50 like it doesn't really matter but like

Multiple Guests (mixed)on first day I feel like it would be good if a guy could pay just for like a good impression like gentlemen um but when it comes to like further down the track like doesn't really matter all

Multiple Guests (mixed)right I think it should be 50/50 regardless of who asked okay what about you I think the GU should pay I think it shows that they have more of a provider mindset all right I want I do want to

Charlie Kirkget some followup a little bit on the clip we'll come back to it momentarily uh Charlie who should pay on the men should always pay regardless of what date it is yes okay yeah no matter men should always pay no questions asked even if you have to go into debt borrow money it's a complete humiliation or

Charlie Kirkembarrassment to have a woman pay for a date all right there there you go do you do you agree Absolut we agree yes it's I think it's the downfall of a lot of things in society where we're asking

Charlie Kirkwomen to pay for for meals men should you should look yourself in the mirror and figure it out and if you want to court court a woman regardless if she by the women shouldn't be asking men on dates I mean not that there's anything wrong with it but I'm saying like men should be the the assertive driving

Brian Atlasforce but sometimes it happens the other way but and sort of a follow-up question on some of your guys' answers do you going around the table do you consider yourself a feminist starting with you go

Multiple Guests (mixed)ahead I feel like like that word has been so misconstrued for example like feminism has given rights to even like men who have had sa in the past and

Brian Atlasthey're able to speak up on it now or femin feminism Fe feminism sexual oh okay I got it yeah we just for

Multiple Guests (mixed)you to you know I got it no I'm just trying to keep up with the lingo yeah so so men who have experienced that you know women at one point weren't able to visit the hospital without their husband

Brian Atlasand now it's given patient privacy in the sense that wait women hold on women were not allowed to get health care from a hospital without their so if they had their like counterpart they had like a

Brian Atlaslimb chopped off back in the farming days or some I'm sure they had emergencies go to a hospital I'm sure they had emergency but like in terms of checkups this is new feminist talking point I've heard that women were barred

Brian Atlasfrom getting uh treated by a doctor in a in a hospital without a man yeah so I think it's called patient privacy of manifested this out of nowhere oh no I like searched it up before I got here

Multiple Guests (mixed)bar from getting uh medical care that's a new feminist talking point okay however let me finish just that one point um I don't believe in a lot of modern feminist ideals I don't think men

Multiple Guests (mixed)are worse than women I don't think women are better than men all that stuff so do you do you consider yourself a feminist I honestly at this point in time no okay

Brian Atlaswhat about you you as a nice easy answer yes okay I think I'm just neutral on that topic well you got to okay you you kind

Brian Atlasof didn't want to react to the the clip there uh you're neutral okay let me ask you a question to perhaps help things along uh do you

Brian Atlasbelieve in a patriarchy that there is a patriarchy into the mic if you can oh I don't know you don't know did you take

Brian Atlasany like feminist studies or sociology classes in University no okay um do you think men Run

Brian AtlasAmerica no okay do you I don't know me I guess there's more like men

Brian Atlaslike in positions I guess there's more men like in positions okay and do you think that that that's a problem do you think there should be a movement towards uh equalitarian equalizing it yeah yeah

Brian AtlasI think it could go both ways like if a woman woman wants to step up then sure

Brian Atlasyeah it's a bit of a non-answer um but so do you think there ought to be a movement towards egalitarianism and

Brian Atlasequality in all Realms and do you think the current social order uh at least through the feminist standpoint point of there's

Brian Atlasthis uh patriarchy do you think we ought to dismantle a patriarchy if there is

Multiple Guests (mixed)one I mean I think in the end like it could be equal but I don't know okay what about

Multiple Guests (mixed)you so can we Define what you're what you're using the word feminist my understanding was it was that women should have equal access to rights in Pursuit of Happiness sort of thing but I I could be wrong on my

Charlie Kirkdefinition oh yeah there's different there's second and third way feminism first second and third way I can Define it if you want absolutely yeah so first W feminism would be like the Equal Rights Amendment no I'm going back for that um universal suffrage that women

Charlie Kirkshould be able to vote second W feminism was like Gloria Steinman where she wrote the feminist Mystique where she was rather nasty in her writing saying that women are uh in a prison cell called the

Charlie Kirkhome and barefoot and pregnant but that led to a lot of women in the workforce and a lot of career um advancement for women for positive or negative third way feminism is that any inequity that we

Charlie Kirksee between men or women is inherently wrong so that for example if you have modeling uh women should not earn more than men and men should not earn more than women um you know that if there's ever if there's any inequity third wave

Charlie Kirkfeminism is very much as I forgot your name I'm sorry Karina Karina you said it's rooted in a hatred of men more than the advancement of women that's third wave feminism um second W feminism is

Charlie Kirkmore of a critique that uh child rearing nuclear family development those things are largely negative and that women should be allowed to be liberated beyond that um I'm generalizing but that's first second and third wave feminism so

Charlie Kirkfirst wave feminism goes back to the passing of um you know universal suffrage and all that so I hope that's that's helpful thank you thanks I I didn't know the history well enough uh

Multiple Guests (mixed)hating men is is wrong and stupid we need them uh if uh if you don't like them we need so that's weird uh and then I think it's a shame if anybody I like a

Multiple Guests (mixed)world where people can do what they what they want and that's a shame if if that people have been told that being a stay-at-home mother all these other things having children is is lesser than because it's not it's just different and it's not lesser than so I believe that's

Charlie Kirkwrong too so I guess it be a no yeah absolutely can I ask a question do you guys think that women if we were to get into a war should be enlisted in the draft no no does anybody think you

Charlie Kirkshould because this is currently being debated in front of the in the house right Congress right now the senate senate Democrats are pushing to say that men and women if we were to get into a time of a draft which we had back in

Multiple Guests (mixed)during Vietnam both should be drafted into war does anyone think that that should happen that's how the Israeli Army operates true right but they don't necessarily put them at the front lines

Brian Atlaswell I think Charlie was speaking about the United States I know theid does have it yeah I'm comparing to um together

Multiple Guests (mixed)uh I wouldn't want to personally okay good how about any war no war no war no I can get back to you why are you torn I mean are they going to pass the

Multiple Guests (mixed)same physical standards cuz then there'll just be fewer of them because of they're accommodated they're accommodated for female fitness standards when military activity requires less physical strength that is

Charlie Kirkmore sort of hacking and flying drones from a building perhaps women's military service could be but don't does anyone think that women should be sheltered from the horrors of

Charlie Kirkwar and men should lead into the nastiest ugliest things for Society on behalf of society I got to think about it it's a big question it's actively

Charlie Kirkbeing debated right now and the reason I ask is because feminism if it's if it's implemented at its core premise is they want equal outcomes but then also equal

Charlie Kirktreatment which is that if we go to war women have to go storm Normandy Beach next time too not just men good point anybody I I want you guys to answer that question but let's actually

Brian Atlasget the the answer to are you a feminist um I think so okay did you answer this yes or no we can just get a yes or no yeah I don't know if you

Multiple Guests (mixed)answered it no not a feminist you'rein yes yes a little louder please yes um yeah no I am not a feminist not a feminist Charlie feminist

Charlie Kirkwhatever the opposite is that's what I am yeah okay anti I mean I love women and I think women have a beautiful place to play in society but especially Third Way feminism is a toxin on society I think also the degradation of

Charlie Kirkstay-at-home motherhood is been really really dangerous and destructive for our society it should it should be celebrated as an option for women sure and back to Charlie's question so going around the table so this is something

Brian Atlasthat's currently being contemplated I think so my understanding is there also instead of men having to register for the Selective Service they're just automatically yeah so that's right everyone automatically gets enrolled

Charlie Kirkmale or or female male and female and it passed the uh house but it goes to the well they're debating it in the Senate armed services committee and it very well might pass um okay which is just I'm just curious what young ladies think

Brian Atlasof the perspective of maybe having to go into the military yeah so the question time of War so the question is do you think women ought to be drafted or required protected from the

Brian Atlasdraft which is which would be my position a lot of conflict going on so do you think women ought to be subject to forced military conscription aka the draft AKA The Selective Service will just go around the table what about you I wouldn't say can you strain your mic a

Multiple Guests (mixed)little bit sure I wouldn't say that they should perect however perhaps they have to have a more um concrete role in um their place

Multiple Guests (mixed)either at home or if they choose to serve the country to do it in in a way where it's not at the front lines can I interrupt but but the front

Charlie Kirklines argument I think is a little bit disingenuous because a drone operator is not the front lines but you could kill more people as a drone operator than being on so the question is should we

Charlie KirkShield women from the ugliest Frontline Massacre situations that we can imagine I would say to reach optimal results if

Charlie Kirkwe're speaking on war then yes okay yes women should be drafted yes we should Shield women from the draft but I want you also to think sorry

Charlie Kirkto interrupt Beyond results too is do we have a moral obligation to protect women from bullets missiles and artillery shells it's an interesting question I mean I not the missiles the

Multiple Guests (mixed)other stuff I'm fine with but the missiles I think they can get the missiles go ahead I don't think women should be drafted because at the end of the day it wouldn't really help the war in any much way like you said the Dr

Multiple Guests (mixed)well that's a really sexist statement of you I'm making Frontline physical you know what I mean whereas if you're saying oh should they have a place in the war yeah I feel like if a woman wants to be able to be in the war want

Multiple Guests (mixed)we're talking about Force though right yeah no Force but if a woman I feel like they definitely have a role in the war they're a good smart intelligent woman can definitely Advance the war for our side but you shouldn't just draft any and every woman in the terms of equality

Multiple Guests (mixed)you know wait you you shouldn't in terms of wouldn't that not be equality then yeah it wouldn't be equality in terms of a war but I'm okay with that but didn't you say you were a feminist yeah I said

Multiple Guests (mixed)as an easy answer I'm a feminist but like he said there's so many conditions yeah there's so many nuances and so many things with feminism where I don't agree with everything he like if he says are you that type of feminist that he just

Brian Atlasdescribed no of course not wait which the type of feminist that's for actual equality like the third wave you mean yeah I'm not third wave or even second wave to its full ex extent what about

Brian Atlasthe feminists that in in pursuit of equality want women to be drafted which is very few I think to be honest yeah it's mostly men that are actually pushing for it in the Democrat part exactly I don't think many women want

Charlie Kirkthat either okay and by the way just sorry to interrupt I don't mean the the the women of America are largely silent on this and for as much people hate Donald Trump he was the one that said women will never be drafted but I'm curious if we want to yeah well uh just

Brian Atlasgoing around the table do you think women should be subject to military conscription that's the original um I think if they have like like attributes that will

Multiple Guests (mixed)proceed then like then I think they should but if it's well it would just be a blanket General uh

Brian Atlasdraft so like you're 2020 correct you're eligible you'd be eligible for the draft Yeah like if I wanted to then not if you wanted to oh like being forced that's what in Vietnam or World War II every

Brian Atlasperson every Able Body person how how would you feel about going to work I mean like I wouldn't want to like if we go to war with Kazakhstan tomorrow you're there you're

Multiple Guests (mixed)in Kazakhstan are you I'm Becky oh okay wait is there conflict no it's just funny it was so Random I don't know I didn't want to anyways yeah that was pretty politically neutral I guess sorry

Brian Atlaswhat was that Nick you wanted to pull something up but so uh yes in favor of uh the draft for women or no not in favor I just think if everyone does go

Multiple Guests (mixed)to war then like everyone goes to war okay what about you I look at it from a a biological standpoint like if you think about animal Hendry after War you tend to need

Multiple Guests (mixed)to repopulate right you have a lot of death yeah so sperm is abundant uh uterus is busy for about a year a little less right so when you do animal husbandry you tend to need more females than a male oddly we have a 50-50 sex

Multiple Guests (mixed)ratio I don't think anybody really understands why because it probably shouldn't be but that said I think losing uteruses to war death is probably long-term more damaging for a society so even if you hate men like men hate women

Multiple Guests (mixed)love women you probably don't want to sacrifice the the uterus people when you're going to need them the uterus people the women right because you're going to need them to repopulate so I would not like a female draft well let's

Brian Atlasassume like the draft you know on a micro level I think that argument makes sense but on the macro level what's 50,000 you

Charlie Kirkknow it's not going to and you're a pilot you'd be you'd be front line bombing yeah that yeah just dropping them from above let me ask you would you feel as if it's consistent with your

Multiple Guests (mixed)nature to get in the plane and drop bombs no I would not enjoy that if I was drafted and it was my service I would do it because I love my country but I would prefer not to well there's been an

Charlie Kirkattack they had female you about the night witches in Russia we've done it when we've had to when incredibly qualified but these are volun largely volunteer well the Russian is not as much but they have they have exemptions

Shai / Imogen (mixed)for their their draft uh what do you think on this um I think it's up to the individual themselves no but okay so the question is like this this would be

Brian Atlassomething that's forced oh um so okay so currently I I know you're from Australia so but I suspect there's probably a military draft or conscription yeah in Australia where they have to Reg the men have to

Brian Atlasregister anyways so in the United States I assume it's the same in Australia men have to register for something called The Selective Service which in Wartime if um if the government opted to uh you

Brian Atlasknow they couldn't find enough soldiers they could force people uh Force males to uh join the war effort become soldiers that's strictly men currently

Brian Atlasbut Congress the government they're contemplating making it both men and women so do you think women should also be uh subject to potential forced military conscription

Multiple Guests (mixed)aka the draft no okay what about you uh yeah no I personally would not want to go to war but okay okay but but so that's not the question you personally wouldn't want to

Brian Atlasgo to war right yeah but speaking in generalities here yeah it would because you're 21 so you would potentially be subject to the draft no

Brian Atlasso women should not okay um I don't really have like an opinion on it like I feel like if it happens it happens if it doesn't if it doesn't it doesn't I'm sorry you guys are giving the most non-answer answers to this question but

Multiple Guests (mixed)if it happens it happens if it doesn't it doesn't okay it is what it is I don't know what that means but in okay all right what about you uh for the sake of everything being 50/50 then yeah sure go for it what what do you think over here

Multiple Guests (mixed)I don't think women should be drafted I mean I I know women aren't necessarily frail um but I know we are a lot weaker than men especially of same size and stature I mean they could beat us at any

Multiple Guests (mixed)point in time unless like we have a gun sure granted I know in word we probably would um and then I think just the emotional trauma of like seeing somebody killed it's

Charlie Kirkfemales are more emotional than guys are generally um and that would be a lot harder for us to get over so and then I would imagine no one has a problem if the war got really crazy for men being

Charlie Kirkdrafted right I mean just historically have been the so then for those of you that said you were feminists do you see any inconsistency between saying that you

Charlie Kirkwant equality but you're cool with sending men to run into machine guns to protect your Society does anyone wrestle with that how do you reconcile that

Charlie Kirkyeah I didn't say I was a feminist definitely mental gymnastics no but what I'm getting at though is that it's easy and I know that you have all been so polite but let's just dive it into it it's easy at times to bash the

Charlie Kirkpatriarchy Taylor Swift just today was one of her you know songs f the patriarchy and everyone in the concert screams that right can we google that Nick yeah well it's it's a lyric of one of her songs it's some like name tag that was dropped but she B she says it

Charlie Kirklike a rally and cry like f the patriarchy when it comes down to it it's like you're cool throwing men to the front lines of War but not

Multiple Guests (mixed)yourself why why do you think the third wave has happened do you think it's Revenge do you think it's a of Mind virus like well I think it's what do you

Charlie Kirkthink it's a great question um I think that it is a idea toxin where we have really denigrated uh having children and staying at home for a lot

Charlie Kirkof women and some women that's the right path for some women it's not the right path but for a lot of women it is the right path and there needs to be an ideological reason as to why you don't

Charlie Kirkget married and you don't have kids for the vast majority of the population and they developed feminism where they said that for for young women becoming a CEO of a shoe company is as fulfilling as having children and for some people that

Charlie Kirkis true but for a lot of people that's just not true and you look at the way Gloria Steinman wrote the steum wrote the feminist Mystique it was I feel as if I'm an open

Charlie Kirkair prison being a stay-at-home mom barefoot and pregnant basically being in the kitchen and it started this whole push which is where we are are the same as men and that's the problem of third wave feminism is that it ties with the

Charlie KirkTrans movement is they don't believe there's any sort of biological differences between men and women which we all agree is insane right that men and women are made completely differently and yeah I think it's a I think it's an intellectual and ideological cancer that needs to be

Charlie Kirkcrushed and I think deep down most people don't even believe it and the the draft argument actually I think really draws that out where when it comes down to it most American women are okay sending men to war which you should be

Multiple Guests (mixed)by the way do young ladies like if you feel like you say I'd like to marry and be a stay-at-home mom and not work if any of you would say that I don't know do you feel like other people would

Multiple Guests (mixed)shame you that it's you get more social clout by saying something else I think it's praised right now to be a stay-at-home mom okay from at least from my Social Circles interesting like that's a new that's a new phenomenon

Brian Atlasbefore we do move on I'm not going to allow hold on hold on I'm not going to allow you guys to weasle your way out of Charlie's question here here so those just show of hands who have you guys uh

Brian Atlassaid you were feminists I believe you and then you oh come on don't don't don't don't uh reel it back here uh so both of you

Brian Atlassaid you're feminist but you also said you're non favor of women being subject to military conscription it occurs to me that feminism in the most I guess generous definition I could give it is a movement

Brian Atlastowards quality it's not that's not honestly the definition I would give it but to be charitable um I'll give it that so how donated $300 cook I'm a fan but stop that

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Brian Atlasnow is time for war Burger King this is Burger King it's Mike Davis all right Mike Davis thank you man appreciate it that's why men should be in yeah a woman would never say that because they it's time for War I don't

Brian AtlasI've never UT that in my life no that's a very smart Point actually and so back to my question th those of you who consider yourself feminist how do you reconcile being a

Brian Atlasfeminist being for equality but also not being in favor of women being subject to force military conscription the same way that men are go ahead um because feminism isn't just feminism as in if

Multiple Guests (mixed)you're a feminist you have to agree with with every single thought and every single idea that every feminist pushes forward like the draft for example well it's not so it's not clear to me if

Multiple Guests (mixed)that's a feminist like specifically a feminist position well then if I'm not a feminist under your eyes then that's fine I just would you acknowledge though that that

Multiple Guests (mixed)would be a pure equality between men and women yeah if everyone you're not favor of equality when it doesn't stand to benefit women yeah but again I never pushed for 100% equality within feminism

Charlie Kirknot you only want the equality that benefits women no I want the equality that benefits Humanity okay so can I no okay so so if if that is are you guys then okay when you find out that women

Multiple Guests (mixed)might earn Less in the workforce than men yeah if if it falls under that stat humanity and Society then yeah okay I mean I think women should be if if the

Multiple Guests (mixed)women are doing the same exact job and producing the same exact amount quantity and quality of work I think they should be paying the same yeah but generally that's not the case no you're right yeah

Charlie Kirkthe the the law you can't discriminate based on on sex but usually there's a lot of other factors such as where you went to school what you studied um so yeah I'm I'm just trying to flush out

Multiple Guests (mixed)the the consistency or lack thereof here yeah I don't ever think it's men versus women it's like masculine compliments the feminine so I think the new way feminism if they're talking about hey

Multiple Guests (mixed)women are better than men that's like the dumbest thing that you can ever say um I think women complement men which goes back to your you know draft um concept well I'd like to ask you another

Brian Atlasquestion here do you think women should be barred from volunteering for the military no well that's interesting they shouldn't be barred from volunteering but they should be barred from being

Brian Atlasforced into conscription despite men being forced into cons potential conscription I'm a little confused there what's confusing about that well why would you if you're fine with women volunteering why would you object to

Multiple Guests (mixed)women being forced um I feel like we made so many points on why women shouldn't be in war do I have to go over them again I can did you make points I'm not sure um yeah I did actually like for example a woman being sent out to war

Multiple Guests (mixed)well actually let's use her example that was one of the best ones if we send half women Half Men to war and we lose an incredible amount of population what would it be of the country and our Workforce like let's assume let's assume

Multiple Guests (mixed)are the ones that are able to have one child at a time some occasions two three you have twins triplets whatever but one man can produce how many kids in a year one man can repopulate population so much quicker than a woman can okay well

Brian Atlaslet's assume the conflict we get involved in is similar to Vietnam where it's not like we're drafting like huge swats of the US population it's more like I I just Googled it I think uh the

Brian AtlasUnited States military conscripted 2 million service Personnel uh throughout the course of Vietnam World War II is way more than that yeah so I mean if we

Brian Atlaslost you know a million from a population perspective I don't think it would be catastrophic but but again those 1 million women aren't just 1 million women randomly they're OCC

Multiple Guests (mixed)occupying special type of forces like for example teachers how many teachers would we lose because of what do you mean we would we would get like 18 to 22 year olds they're in the middle of doing

Charlie Kirkonly fans or college or something I I all all of Isa Vista would end up being the Marines so let me can I

TTS Readerask okay bronis donated $300 get rid of those silly Australian headbands twins I have been to Australia and all their women are like them

Brian Atlasreplace them with JoJo leche bags Charlie cook looks like he's battling metran metro metro anyone know what that means I have no idea what Metro oh

Brian Atlasreally great rude uh okay thank you appreciate it I guess that was so cute random oh I see what happened there okay all right uh where were we we were forgot can I can I

Charlie Kirkjust ask a question so if you are with your boyfriend or husband and there's a home Intruder in the house who who would you expect your husband to put himself first into that situation to take care

Multiple Guests (mixed)of it absolutely I mean or husband boyfriend or or male counterpart I mean I know my husband and I have had this conversation multiple times I mean we have multiple guns in the house and he's told me he's like go hide in the bathroom and hide in the closet he's

Multiple Guests (mixed)like and I'll take care of you I mean and I I know where the guns are and I know how to use them just in case he dies for some reason or I can you know shoot and hopefully scare somebody away right I I

Multiple Guests (mixed)think you were maybe in the middle of making a point you said well that they would be teachers and so that's why we shouldn't dra you're saying how um like 1 million woman dying doesn't really hurt society

Multiple Guests (mixed)and I was saying that it does because women have a higher amount of like in certain roles like for example women's jobs are more valuable is that no no no I'm saying like a lot of women's jobs are already majority women right but I

Brian Atlaswas I was arguing your point about like you're making this point of well if all the women go and die to war how are we going to repopulate but like I'm not I don't think any conflict would reduce the female population to such a degree

Brian Atlasthat it would like have some catastrophic uh if they were drafted front line whatever but we're already up actually it'd probably be good I'm going to get canceled for this it' actually probably be good for the population if women got drafted because here's what

Brian Atlashappens actually with the volunteer force of women if they ever do face a deployment a lot of these female soldiers just get pregnant to avoid having to be deployed genius so actually

Brian Atlasthis this hold on Charlie I think actually conservatives need to get on board with the female draft but no you have to stay Charlie I need you to commit on the whatever podcast here that you

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