01:52:17Mizybecause like Society in America has changed we it used to be a little different now no one's getting married married and for the women who do want that it sucks because yeah I would want a man I date to at least want to try to provide for
01:52:31Lucy / Ruby / Rileyme I feel like with um trying to ideally make the pathway to owning a house and having a stable life and family it's
01:52:42Lucy / Ruby / Rileyreally challenging to do that and I don't want to be like in this economy but um this economy I feel like it's um hard for it to really be only one person
01:52:54Lucy / Ruby / Rileyworking do I think it's a hard balance to navigate because like I have days where I work my 9 to 5 and then I come home and I'm super tired would I love a
01:53:05Lucy / Ruby / Rileycute lady to cook me up a meal and just eat it and and call it a day yes I would love that but um I like take on those
01:53:15Lucy / Ruby / Rileychallenges in my own life and um I feel like it's just a really hard Balancing Act in the s of balancing it out in my
01:53:25Lucy / Ruby / Rileylife I feel like I would like to be more of the home body in a way but do I think
01:53:32Lucy / Ruby / Rileythat's like possible in my life and how people view things no okay um I think this is where it's hard cuz like as you said like it's different societies right
01:53:45Mandythey're completely different countries so they have different standards for certain things um but I do think that the the Russian mentality was um actually kind of interesting
01:53:57Mandybecause um I feel like that used to be like how America was was like the man provides and like he's the Macho and the woman you know does the cooking and
01:54:06Mandycleaning and my nail just broke off and my um uh but I think that uh I don't know I feel like we should kind of adopt a
01:54:18Mandylittle bit more of that maybe not go fully to that extent but like it doesn't have to be like fully 50/50 if that makes sense like as the like I don't
01:54:30Kennaknow I don't know I I don't know where I'm going with this but I feel like mhm I don't know I'm not making any sense I would 100% stay home and cook and clean and stay like take care of the
01:54:42Kennakids if like my life was paid for qu only fans yeah if he was like rich rich what is rich rich wait
01:54:52Brian Atlasmoney baby six figs if he makes like seven figures a year then yeah I'd quit she seven figures a year I mean what if he makes half a mill then like no I
01:55:05Kennawouldn't quit that's $500,000 that's it's like top 1% well good for him but I mean like I'm not quitting cuz like I'm also making money like when we have kids then yeah
01:55:16Alicia BarbieI'll quit but not right now $500,000 you don't need to work I don't care what city you're in okay all right I think the US men are
01:55:27Alicia Barbiedisappointing um for the simple fact I actually am married to a European so I um know that they actually do provide
01:55:37Alicia Barbieand they're like very sweet um and they always like I don't I don't really do much so I like stay home and I do have like a part-time job or whatever but I know that my man like he provides all
01:55:48Alicia Barbiethe way and he makes sure that I'm like good with American man it's just I feel like they have a lazy mentality and a European or yeah a European man they
01:55:59Brian Atlashave like a like a hard work hardworking mentality so wait so um do you have kids I don't have any kids you're married though right you you going to have kids
01:56:10Alicia Barbiesoon or I want I I want to have kids but I don't know not in this Society not in this economy nor Society does your you're married though your H does your husband want kids that's Up For Debate what do you mean it's you are married
01:56:22Alicia Barbiewhat do you mean it's up for debate it's it's the simple fact of the matter is is like I don't want to raise my children in this type of society the way what does he want he wants kids and you
01:56:34Alicia Barbiemarried him Des he married you despite your talked about it and I told him and I asked him I said do you mind if we
01:56:44Andrew Wilsondon't have children and he's he's so so about it but we are open to adopting what in this Society wait what what that makes no sense why would you why would you be unwilling to have biological kids
01:56:56Alicia Barbiebut be open to adopting if the problem is in society because okay well for example she is adopted I'm sorry to point you out but there's a lot of
01:57:06Andrew Wilsonchildren like out in this world that don't have homes regardless of the situation they don't have families adoption waiting lists are mile long if there's a 100% 100% of children who get
01:57:18Alicia Barbieput up for adoption at Birth are adopted 100% of you do it through foster care yeah okay so you're going to take on fosterlings yeah but why not have biological kids I to add okay so to add
01:57:30Alicia Barbiemore children into this already overly populated world the world's becoming underpopulated underpopulated it really as of like this year or like in the last couple of years cuz honey people be
01:57:42Andrew Wilsonpopping kids left and right so our birth pandemic our our birth rate our birth rate's at 1.6 it's been dropping Like a Rock since 1800 if you look at they baned abortion if you look at globally if you look at it globally this is the
01:57:55Andrew Wilsoncase in all Western nations North Korea is at uh I think now it's it's at uh 8 I think or even lower 0 70 so it's not even one child per family anymore which means they're going to go extinct as a
01:58:07Alicia Barbiepeople group literally extinct okay but what but when you look at this when you look at society and when you look at like what's going on in the world and you see all the negative stuff that is
01:58:17Alicia Barbiehappening for me what negative stuff well there's Wars going on before when there was L population but the thing about it is it's just like to
01:58:27Alicia BarbieI we all grew up learning like for me like I can't handle putting a child through this world that is already corrupt and evil as it is it's it's
01:58:37Andrew Wilsonalmost like selfish to me in a way to be isn't it isn't that the opposite like wouldn't the idea that if the world is corrupt that if you have children and still good values in them you're doing the opposite of what's corrupt if I have
01:58:49Alicia Barbiechildren we're moving into the woods and no one's going to know where we're going no one's going to know anything about us like dis wouldn't that be a positive to society to disappear no no no positive
01:59:00Alicia Barbieto society to raise the Next Generation right to be but you have to think about it like the children now that are going to schools especially on Tik Tok I've heard like teachers talk about their send them to school home school but
01:59:13Alicia Barbiehere's the thing I've heard teachers talk about their children how their children are reading at like a four first grade level and how the like reading a mathema rical skills are just
01:59:23Alicia Barbiedropping I mean I even asked like a family member like do do you know how to like multiply and they don't even know how to multiply or do addition or they don't even know how to read because obviously we have our phones and things
01:59:35Alicia Barbieof that nature I don't want to bring children into this world where technology becomes their everything if that makes any sense I would rather put my children like why I don't understand
01:59:45Alicia Barbiethis at all you can govern all of that with your children yeah but then it's like I want them to live life and then how how are they going to live life like if I if I shelter them too much then
01:59:58Alicia Barbiethey're going to go out and want to uh go out into the world very sporadic and spiral and do this and do that and and uh get into get into bad situations and I don't want that for a child because I
02:00:11Alicia BarbieI've grown up in an environment where I've done sporadic and spiraly things and you wish your parents hadn't had you no I just wish that I wish they would have raised me right and that's what I'm afraid I'm asking to you I you just
02:00:23Andrew Wilsonafraid you can't raise kids right or what that's you you're afraid you can't I'm afraid that I can't because of the so you kill your husband's dream of children cuz you're afraid that you're not going to be a good mom I yes that's [ __ ] awful like that's [ __ ] awful
02:00:37Andrew Wilsonit's not awful why would you do that to him he can't have another wife to have kids with what we can adopt yeah but that's not the same as having your own child you could okay you're replicating
02:00:47Andrew Wilsonyour DNA like do you realize that for a man for instance right no more that'll ever give him the sense of Pride like having a son especially a son who's
02:00:56Andrew Wilsonaccomplishing things or the or or he didn't let me finish or uh what they get uh in in exchange for having a daughter
02:01:07Andrew Wilsonas well so the thing is is like there's a distinction here to be made between well honey you know why don't we just go adopt this other he's like why don't you give me a [ __ ] kid but the thing about it is it's like I don't I want one
02:01:20Andrew WilsonI don't want to go through Labor oh there we sens that's what I thought it really was you just didn't want to cuz it'll damage your body right well no I don't want I just don't I would
02:01:31Alicia Barbierather not have children in this lifetime I'm not saying that hopefully you know in P more life times to come I want to be able to at least give my children the best life that they can
02:01:43Alicia Barbiepossibly have how many wives does your husband get well I mean men get men get multiple wives every day like do they divorce their woman and they Remar so you're you're planning on getting a divorce with your husband I'm not planning on getting a divorce with my
02:01:57Andrew Wilsonhusband then the Assumption here is you're going to be married forever well the idea is to get be married forever okay so if that's the Assumption you're going to be married forever who else can he have children with well I mean he
02:02:08Andrew Wilsoncould just put his eggs in a I mean his sperm in a cup and put it in the freezer and then if I decide I want to have children I will you want to Sur but what about him could be yeah what about him though not talking about you now not
02:02:21Andrew Wilsontalking about everything that princess you want I'm talking about what about the king what does the king get here does the king get to have a progeny does he get to have that does he get to have still have a proy with an adopted child
02:02:32Alicia Barbiehe still have a a kid of his not of his own you know biologically the only thing you can give him but that's the only thing I can give him as a woman I could give multiple that's the only unique
02:02:46Andrew Wilsonthing that you can bring to the table as a woman that he could what else could he what what else is unique that you would bring to the table as a woman I think my nurturing spirit um what are you nurturing you don't want kids what are
02:02:56Alicia Barbieyou I can nurture yout nurture him and like treat him like as a king and I am as a queen um I don't to to say that why couldn't he get a barren woman do the
02:03:07Alicia Barbieexact same thing but that I mean Barren or no baren regardless of the situation a woman is still a woman a woman is still nurturing regardless of the situ yeah and they get a lot out of that they get money they get resources they get
02:03:19TTS Readeraffection themselves the birth rate during the Great Depression was 2.1 children per woman the current birth rate is below that and women still refuse to have kids
02:03:30Andrew Wilsondue to economic issues make it make sense yeah I can well I can actually explain why that happened but it we don't even need to dive into it I just like to finish this real quick this exchange MH so your husband wants kids
02:03:43Andrew Wilsonyour husband has the expectation he's only going to ever have one wife and his one wife is refusing to have children so tell me how is this a fair deal for your husband well we both agreed that if I
02:03:55Alicia Barbiedon't want to have children or we don't want to have children we can adopt that's our agreement that's our that's like not an ultimatum or whatever but it's okay I before I even met my partner
02:04:08Alicia BarbieI've always wanted to adopt I never truly wanted to have children of my own how many how many kids you want to adopt I want to adopt five okay so why can't you give him three and adopt two three children or give him one can you give
02:04:19Alicia Barbiehim one one that's actually his he can but the thing about it is it's like you like regardless of the situation there's so many kids out there that need homes including the ones he wants well well he doesn't he doesn't
02:04:32Alicia Barbieknow that yet because we don't have children he does know it he said he wants them he well yeah but he could have kids adopted or biological it's just well I can't have them biological without your participation oh then sucks
02:04:44Alicia Barbiethe sucks I guess you going to bury me for the rest of your life I don't know what else to say besides I want you don't think that that's mildly horrible I don't I don't I mean if my If he if the tables were were turned and he was
02:04:56Andrew Wilsonlike okay I don't want to have children that would be horrible too I would respect that yeah but that would still be horrible too if you so think about it if you if you were to think how unfair this would be woman says okay I have
02:05:07Andrew Wilsonthis small window of my 20s to my early 30s to have healthy children okay that's my window right I get married young to this guy 25 and he's like ah you know what I don't really want to have kids
02:05:18Andrew Wilsonyou're like but wait my biological clock is ticking that's what I want more than anything is children I want children and you're not going to give them to me and he's like Noah baby we're just going to adopt he'd be like what the [ __ ] like
02:05:30Alicia Barbiewhat theck I mean the thing about it is is like you we don't really know like when's the like limit for women to like stop having children cuz yeah we kind we
02:05:40Andrew Wilsondo we do 30 to 35 usually yeah oh that that's and by the way that's really not an optimal age group because it does so much damage you know what's really funny is like like you said earlier like I
02:05:52Andrew Wilsondon't want to go through Labor the most hilarious thing to me is that women say I'm going to wait till I'm 30 to have start having children when it does the most amount of damage to their body that's that's like that's like
02:06:03Andrew Wilsonhilariously backwards to me I'm like you want to wait until you're in your 30s when it's going to do the worst possible amounts of damage to your body rather than in your 20s where you can literally
02:06:14Andrew Wilsonbe back at work the next day that's how easy it is on women's bodies they're back at work the next day it's not even a problem they're designed to have children like they're designed not to get wrecked in their 20s having kids
02:06:27Alicia Barbieyeah but the thing about it is your 20s are are for you to discover who you are and what you want to do in life it shouldn't be like oh let's let's get married kids you just made that [ __ ] up who said that your 20s or your Discovery
02:06:38Alicia Barbieyears your 20s are your family years that's when you start your family years and I've heard that like my my father always told me like wait until you're 30 because well your dad was wrong because you're going to wreck your body worse at
02:06:50Alicia Barbie30 than at 20 not because I've been exercising and getting myself together but I skinny elasticity when you it doesn't matter how much I mean y'all
02:07:01Brian Atlasdon't know my body I I know my body so I'm just saying like I personally wouldn't want to have kids in this Society I do need to I do need to thank Bender the offender for his TTS that
02:07:13Brian Atlascame through I don't know if you're still watching Bender but thank you for the TTS it was uh it was a good one we have Lucas here with his message if you can read read it Lucy come on now literally drove through a highway
02:07:25Lucy / Ruby / Rileyconstruction zone today three dudes with jackhammers one dude operating a crane and two other dudes loading pipes and one Dopey chick raing waving a red caution flag yeah they do hold stop
02:07:37Andrew Wilsonsigns I've seen that mhm it's an important job you know got the enough they held as sign for like six hours course a robot will put them out of business second we can figure out how
02:07:47Andrew Wilsonto make one you know just pop a stop sign up every you know sequentially yeah see that's what AI should be used for not generating woman with three
02:07:58Alicia Barbieboobs uh going to you guys the Russia versus US reaction video your reaction um dang I forgot you guys were like going and I then I started thinking
02:08:08Alicia Barbieabout like what you guys were talking about and then like my thought um I think it it should be oh it was what you said about the Europeans I agree with that because most of my sugar
02:08:20Alicia Barbiedaddies are Europe they weren't born here they don't live here so I get that but I don't think
02:08:27Alicia Barbielike a man a man can't be um 100% you know financially providing for a woman um if he's not making enough which you
02:08:37Alicia Barbieknow it can be hard with you know how we live today like I live in San Diego like the house down payment is 100,000 and that even is like barely bare minimum so
02:08:49Alicia BarbieI think like I have to work to you know I wouldn't work as much as the man though but I would still work your
02:08:58Lucy / Ruby / Rileyreaction my reaction um honestly I kind of I don't know I kind of like working so like that wouldn't really matter to
02:09:07Brian Atlasme I don't know I I like doing it 50/50 like the you're fine with 50-50 yeah okay we have another chat here from Meet the Kaiser thank you so much man by the way uh let's get W's in the chat for
02:09:18Lucy / Ruby / RileyBender the offender W's in the chat for libertariat also Lucas and meet the Kaiser uh go ahead Lucy all right Brian and Andrew argue with me the US Russian video it's easy to interview 50 us men
02:09:31Brian Atlasand upload the 10 that SED and then upload the Russians that didn't aren't videos like this misleading yeah that's actually a good point um it seemed very selectively edited and in addition to
02:09:43Brian Atlasthat Kaiser one of the other considerations is uh even let's say all the 50 men in the US and all the 50 men in Russia uh the Russian men gave answers similar to the other Russian men
02:09:53Brian Atlasthe US men gave the 50/50 answer uh they could have also like kind of there could have been some sort of bias When selecting who they go and approach like one of those dudes sounded gay and then
02:10:05Brian Atlasthey so they picked like kind of more feminine or like the whereas in the Russian one they maybe picked more like U masculine looking men that could have been another bias in the thing but that is a good point they just simply like
02:10:18Brian Atlaspick they they were going with the narrative they were picking and choosing there's probably us men that you could interview although I think it would be fair to say that Russian men probably fall more in line with traditional uh gender roles than than the reverse also
02:10:31Brian Atlasit could have been staged actors who knows but I mean just taking it face value um that's kind of where we were going with it but uh do you have anything on that Andrew or I mean no
02:10:42Andrew Wilsonit's a it's a fine point it easily could have been uh selected that way there was this um in fact I I saw a video it was a UK company did this where they were basically trying to make American sound stupid where they would
02:10:54Andrew Wilsonask them basic questions about American history they couldn't answer things like this and so a different American team went over to the UK did the exact same thing back to them it turns out that
02:11:03Brian Atlasthey're just as [ __ ] basically right so um so I mean it's a good point yeah and we have one more that just came through so we'll get that one from Lucas
02:11:13Lucy / Ruby / RileyW's in the chat for Lucas guys thank you so much Lucas holy solop solipsism go ahead thank you holy solipsism the most fundamental biological imperative since time IM Memorial is to pass on his DNA
02:11:25Lucy / Ruby / Rileyand not someone else's and yet she wants him to relinquish SL supress his most basic human imperative thank you Lucas do you have a response to that um first and foremost I want to say uh I don't
02:11:36Alicia Barbiethink I am relinquishing anything from him because we did speak about this and um I don't really think DNA matters that much I mean I I um the question is are
02:11:49Andrew Wilsonyou talking about like DNA as in Legacy y or DNA as just like he's saying it's a biological imperative that people have to pass on their DNA it's just like every everything that exists that's biological that's alive it has a
02:12:01Lucy / Ruby / Rileybiological imperative pass its DNA on okay I have a question did he propose to you yeah did he already know your stance on children when he proposed
02:12:11Mandyyeah there you go yeah yeah I mean I guess if he accepted it then I mean if he if he's if he knows what's going on then that's on if he because we live in
02:12:23Alicia Barbiea live in a scary world at least to me it's scary because I don't like I said I don't want to raise children in this environment and if I do have children I'm not going to you know I will raise that child but just in the forest or
02:12:36Brian Atlassomething I mean isn't that a greater wouldn't that be a greater call to action like Society is so [ __ ] up uh in like you you bring more children into the world to fix it right isn't that the
02:12:48Alicia Barbiecall to action that should be but then I mean I'm not going to you girls are so beautiful and you guys are gorgeous but like to hear your stories and to be like okay I want to have daughters and then I
02:13:01Alicia Barbiedon't know if my daughter's going to come out like at 12:00 at night and rebel against me or something like that like that's what I fear and then my girls having offs like I I don't I don't that's something that's scary to me if
02:13:11Lucy / Ruby / Rileythat makes sense well life is risk yeah but like it's just not that risk I want to take good parent I want to be a good parent but I like like I said can I add to that I feel like there like there is definitely a fear when it comes to like
02:13:24Lucy / Ruby / Rileyreproducing but I think that's kind of part of the rewarding aspect of it of having children is that you get to lead them in a direction that you think is um like you know important and imperative to you and what your opinion is on that
02:13:37Lucy / Ruby / Rileybut you know as like as people always say like life isn't fair and you don't know what's going to happen to you all you can do is control what you have control over so if you raise your kids a certain way then they won't rebel
02:13:49Lucy / Ruby / Rileyagainst you that that I mean like you obviously every human person is their own person but I almost feel like you have more of a risk of that when adopting a child because you don't know what their biological Tendencies are what their genetics are when it's your
02:14:01Lucy / Ruby / Rileyown kid you at least know what to expect like I'm almost done but like with me like I suffer from a few mental illnesses just like anxiety depression if I have a kid I know that there's a risk that my kid will also suffer from that however I can approach that with
02:14:13Lucy / Ruby / Rileythem and say hey kiddo like you might go through something like this but I'm there for you cuz I understand you because I am you at the end of the day you know do that with an adoptive child as well who's going through a lot of
02:14:23Brian Atlastraum traumatic experience um who here wants kids show hands in the future or now don't want kids don't want kids
02:14:34Brian Atlasdon't want kids don't want kids okay um and then this is for all of you even though those of you who don't don't want kids if you knew that your daughter was
02:14:43Brian Atlasgoing to turn out just like you would you want to have kids yeah yes no
02:14:52Brian Atlasokay [ __ ] no oh yes wait yes oh wait like like me but like not my life because well you said you don't want to
02:15:01Brian Atlashave kids but if she turns out just like you then yes you would cuz her whole argument was essentially uh if my child turns out to be a [ __ ] up I would regret
02:15:13Brian Atlasit so that's one of the reasons I don't want to have kids but if your child turned out to be end up just like you would that change your mind no no okay continue oh I I don't know like I'm not
02:15:25Kennaplanning to have kids but like if I had a daughter and she ended up like me I'd be pretty happy like okay all right yeah my kid was likeing yes okay
02:15:37Lucy / Ruby / Rileyhuh that's interesting all right uh what's up I wanted to say with like the idea of 5050 did you know that men are more likely to cheat on their
02:15:49Lucy / Ruby / Rileywives when it's more of a 5050 Dynamic and with that I feel like that could perpetuate male loneliness so in a
02:15:59Lucy / Ruby / Rileysense like sticking to the traditional 100 bread Winer and and chilling home like what do you guys
02:16:08Lucy / Ruby / Rileythink about that it makes me kind of sad for men but I would like to also like work as well in a sense wait so okay 50/50 infidelity greater in men I mean
02:16:20Andrew Wilsonit probably is greater in women too now he's saying she's saying in if if it's a 50/50 relationship they're more likely to cheat as opposed to if it's not yes the men are more likely to
02:16:32Andrew Wilsoncheat but the women would be more likely to cheat it just wouldn't matter though the idea here is just if you were to have a dynamic where it was not 50/50 and it was more traditional with the man
02:16:43Andrew Wilsonworking the likelihood decreases of him cheating mhm that's it even if even if the woman it uh it increas the likelihood of her cheating at 50/50 it wouldn't really matter to the stat right
02:16:54Andrew Wilsonokay was there a question or I was just wondering what my pure ladies think about that I hadn't I hadn't heard that stat before so I haven't I haven't dove
02:17:05Mandyinto it I it would kind of make sense I think um I mean if the male is like not in a position where he can feel like you
02:17:13Mandyknow he's Top Dog and he's the [ __ ] alpha or whatever um you know uh I guess that might make him feel inferior and maybe he needs to go you know cheat in
02:17:24Mandyorder to feel better about himself I I don't know that's from the male side I don't know from the female side I it's just fulfillment the idea of opposition
02:17:34TTS Readerdonated $200 chair six let's see if you're full of it or not I dare you to call your husband right now on speaker tell him
02:17:44TTS Readeryou changed your mind and want to have kids after all let's see how he responds he is he's European so the most thing he will say is okay that's all he that's
02:17:56Alicia Barbieall the response you're going to get out of him is he German or he's polish okay polish PO is he here in Santa Barbara no
02:18:06Brian Atlaswe both live in Chicago oh okay uh I mean we can't really do that absent for getting like it's technically wiretapping we of course he's polish we
02:18:17Andrew Wilsonwould need to get permission or what is what what does that supposed to mean there's there's a a series of jokes that start
02:18:28Andrew Wilsonwith what did the blank blank you know what I mean I'm just saying just saying I want to I want to hear those jokes after the podcast okay how do you get a one armed poock out of a tree you
02:18:40Alicia Barbiewave to him there you go that's what you didn't what you you wave to him yeah oh that's I've never heard of that joke before no
02:18:52Brian Atlasno whole series of pull out jokes you didn't know that no I didn't all right Daman we're going to get do our next reaction here uh so there is a famous
02:19:01Brian Atlasactor uh can you pull up what's his name I already forgot his name is it Anthony
02:19:11Brian AtlasAnthony Aaron Taylor Aaron Taylor Johnson Taylor Johnson the first react please the whatever ever the first one
02:19:22Brian Atlasis you're going to need to hide the oh uh put this higher no the video of us put it
02:19:35Brian Atlashigher sorry guys okay scroll down just a teeny bit you push it nope no no no no no up up up up
02:19:45Brian Atlasup do you remember the instructions on this it was the no scroll down it was the relationship status I need just the first three sentences
02:19:59Brian Atlasvisible hey you you got to push it down one more but you no no go up go up go up the there's little there's little arrows on on the
02:20:10Brian Atlasside for the that that'll let you control it the little arrows at the very bottom of the scroll I showed this to you before there's a you're right there you're literally like
02:20:25Brian Atlasan inch [Laughter] away just tell them to press down one on the right of the screen there is a SC there's a scroll
02:20:35Brian Atlasbar well yeah but at the very bottom there's oh my God I'm sorry he just talking about the two-way arrows in the scroll bar see at the very I'm
02:20:47Brian Atlassorry I went open this before the show there you go keep going you got to can you get it there please yeah just the three the top
02:20:57Brian Atlasthree sentences dude up up up up up there we no one more down just one more down there you go all right after Johnson met filmmaker Sam Taylor Wood in 2009 on said of their
02:21:09Brian Atlasfilm Nowhere Boy when he was 18 and she was 42 the two began dating and were married in The Chapel at B babington house uh they changed both their surnames blah blah blah two doll two
02:21:20Brian Atlasdaughters he's a stepfather to Sam's two daughters from her previous marriage uh when he was 18 so they met when he was 18 and she was 42 also I believe she was
02:21:31Brian Atlaslike the director of some film he was an actor on set power power Dynamic uh let's see the next tab over all right this is Aaron Taylor Johnson
02:21:40Brian Atlasnext next he's next next uh okay so this is I think when he was a bit younger this is his I don't know if they were just dating at this point maybe they were married next that's the wife scroll
02:21:53Brian Atlasuh okay next all right next next
02:22:02Brian Atlasnext next okay okay uh is there one more or is that not next I guess oh yeah oh he has a
02:22:13Brian Atlastattoo of her name her name is Sam I'm pretty here now that we're out of f11 you can check is that the last one oh yeah okay uh so uh what do you guys think you
02:22:24Brian Atlasthink uh I mean so she met him 42 he was 18 I believe the Articles uh yeah 18 and2 think you guys think uh what do you guys think fair game or fair game I mean
02:22:35Lucy / Ruby / Rileyhe seems happy question mark question mark question mark But there I do know there was a whole like movement on the internet that was like hash free Aaron Taylor Johnson but he seems happy I do think it's weird though that her eldest
02:22:46Lucy / Ruby / Rileydaughter is only four years younger than Mr Aaron TL Johnson that was a little weird okay
02:22:55Mizyyour reaction uh I don't know I mean I don't know uh it's that's their life and as
02:23:06Mizylong as he's happy in this situation I mean and he doesn't feel like he was groomed then mhm you know but if he was groomed and maybe she was talking him before he was 18 then I would that's
02:23:18Lucy / Ruby / Rileywhat I had heard think that that would be more of a problem M I feel like like I graduated high school when I
02:23:27Lucy / Ruby / Rileywas 17 and not 18 but when I feel like I've grown a lot since those years and to be freshly out of high school in theory if you were 18
02:23:39Lucy / Ruby / Rileylike that that is really discomforting to me and I guess it's legal but myself I don't like to see that
02:23:50Mandyum I think it really depends on the dynamic I mean I obviously my boyfriend's way older than me so I can't really be against this in any fashion um
02:24:02Mandybut I mean as long as she's not like abusing him or anything like that I think it's fine and they're both consenting what's your age Gap relationship um I'm 20 and my
02:24:13Kennaboyfriend's 39 okay so 19 years yeah okay your reaction oh I think it's weird cuz like when I'm like 43 or however old she was like I don't think I could look
02:24:24Kennaat an 18-year-old and be like oh my gosh let me get married to him he like unless he looks like Aaron Taylor Johnson he's fine I don't know I'll drink of water
02:24:37Kennathat man cuz like you're just so immature and like all of that and it's just like you're like a child like nothing wrong with it like go do you but
02:24:45Alicia Barbielike it's just not something I would do mhm um I'm neutral because like I get your point but I also get that they're both like he's 18 so like he could do
02:24:58Alicia Barbiewhatever he want practically type of De or deal okay I mean got with the 70 year
02:25:09Lucy / Ruby / Rileyolds sure uh my reaction I think that he's 18 so he can do whatever he feel let's just switch it sure let's go ahead
02:25:19Lucy / Ruby / Rileyand switch it uh 42-year-old male dating a 18-year-old woman you guys cool with it too I mean I like I said if I if I'm not going to judge one way that the age cap like if I'm not going to judge an older
02:25:31Lucy / Ruby / Rileywoman then I guess I mean frankly I kind of do judge her a little bit because like she said like I would not if I'm 42 years old I would not yeah sure you might not like you personally wouldn't want to be a young person but but you
02:25:43Andrew Wilsondon't blame her though right yeah like if you were her age right you with that guy that you found sexy as hell and also if I look what would change at 42 that would make you less desirous of
02:25:55Lucy / Ruby / Rileyhow that guy looked well I don't know but that's actually interesting that you say that I think that there's definitely like attraction levels I don't know if you guys have seen this um it's like a I guess it's a statistic it's a graph and
02:26:06Lucy / Ruby / Rileyit was like the ages that women find attractive as they get older yeah women that's what I said you said women sorry I think I just pronounce it weird I'm not trying to say it with an a in my head there's a e there okay I'm
02:26:19Lucy / Ruby / Rileysorry guys women women I don't think that um oh yeah basically the what the graph said was
02:26:29Lucy / Ruby / Rileythat as women get older wom I don't need to she did it right that time that was that was she said woman but okay go ahead wom yes there we
02:26:39Lucy / Ruby / Rileygo women women okay dang 21 years of life guys and I no one's ever corrected me on that okay um but anyway as they got older the attraction to that they have to other people like those ages
02:26:52Lucy / Ruby / Rileyalso get older but then with men it kind of stayed in that Leo DiCaprio age of like 18 to 25 and I don't know like again there could be some sort of bias on that absolutely but um generally I think it's just less common like that's
02:27:05Lucy / Ruby / RileyI think that's why the internet freaked out about Aaron Taylor Johnson and Sam Taylor Johnson is because that's just more Uncommon it's way more common to see an older man with a younger woman do I would I judge it if you find that guy but why does my opinion matter but if you find that guy attractive right this
02:27:18Lucy / Ruby / Rileysecond what do you think will will happen when you're 40 that'll make him L but I mean like like okay attraction is one thing but I think actually going after it is another thing completely but if you're attracted to him why wouldn't you go after him if he
02:27:31Lucy / Ruby / Rileywas interested well I Al I mean go after it but then remember how we were talking about like last podcast we talked about would you want would someone would a man find you more attractive in 10 years 20
02:27:43Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyears 30 years and the kind of consensus that we came up with was no a man would not find me as attractive so it's kind of one of those where I could be attracted to for sure but would they even want to get with me like that's kind of a rare situ nothing to do with
02:27:55Andrew Wilsonthe what would make you less attracted to them when you're 40 I don't know I I I think ideally by 40 I'm already settled down yeah but if you're not what would actually if I'm not even if you were if I'm still P still wouldn't have anything to do with the attractive level
02:28:08Brian Atlasyeah I mean I'm that's why I said like I like who am I to judge I you know whatever people can do whatever they want to do I just I could not with someone who's older than my dad crazy a thank you for the gifted 20 Subs on
02:28:19MizyTwitch appreciate it man thank you so much W's in the chat for uh crazy Ace um so what about A 42-year-old man dating a 18-year-old woman you fine with it I think it's the same as uh the reverse I
02:28:31Mizythink that as long as she wanted it and she was going if she was going after him and he like when at the end of the day if you're pursuing someone you're pursuing someone if it's consensual and
02:28:43Mizyagain like the guy isn't like manipulating to groom someone same with the woman cuz women can do it too then I don't it's not my problem it's not my life if they're happy that's them well here let me make this a little easier so
02:28:56Brian Atlasbefore the show all of you filled out questionaires there's a question on it which reads is it wrong for a 30-year-old to date a 19-year-old Lucy you said yes uh I said yes and no I'm
02:29:07Brian Atlaspretty sure did I say all the way yes you said all the way yes dang it uh M you said yes it is wrong Ruby you said it's
02:29:17Brian Atlaswrong uh Mandy you said no uh I can't read your Kenna you said you didn't answer it oh I don't
02:29:30Lucy / Ruby / Rileythink it's wrong is it weird you're fine with it weird it's weird but it's not
02:29:33Brian Atlaswrong I guess yeah uh L you said no Naomi you said no Riley you said yes
02:29:45Mizyit is wrong for 30-year-old to dat 19-year-old I think it just depends like like I said there was no in between answer for that one so uh it just depends on the circumstances so what are the circumstances like I said if it was
02:29:58Mizyconsensual if it was like there was grooming involved which often happens like at that age but that would be wrong regardless of age right but it just happens more often if people are younger and they are not fully developed yet
02:30:10Andrew Wilsonwell assuming does it I think it probably happens a lot more often with people who have a distinct power Dynamic difference right so it wouldn't really matter right it wouldn't really matter the age
02:30:22Andrew Wilsonultimately so like if there's a 24-year-old millionaire and there's a chick who works at Starbucks right that that would that would just be this same idea of like a power differential right and that's what everyone's bitching
02:30:35Andrew Wilsonreally complaining about is that there's some type of like power Dynamic you said freshly out of high school that means you're naive or uh freshly 18 it means you're too dumb to make these decisions
02:30:45Andrew Wilsonright uh but I don't really understand that because it seems to me like your chances of running into people around your same age group who can do these exact same things to you actually are
02:30:56Lucy / Ruby / Rileymuch higher like significantly higher in fact so i' I've just never really understood that argument I just feel like there's like a mental difference too between someone at age 30 and
02:31:07Lucy / Ruby / Rileysomeone at age 19 I know that even in the last two years of my life I've gone through tremendous amounts of change you know your frontal cortex doesn't start developing until you're like 20 21 so like yes it does
02:31:20Andrew Wilsonyour prefrontal cortex does develop before that you're talking about the full development at 25 the full development at 25 then Shi Road after 25 I mean maybe this is just my experience
02:31:29Lucy / Ruby / Rileybut I genuinely feel that like one year ago at 20 years old I had not anywhere near the amount of mental Clarity that I do now so if I had made an informed decision like getting married to
02:31:41Lucy / Ruby / Rileysomebody I might not feel that way right now so that's like so why should you vote at 18 that's actually such a good point but I think that that's
02:31:51Andrew Wilsonlike because that's that's a good point that's a good point so so then think I'm not the president I got to ask so so I just got to ask right like
02:32:03Andrew Wilsonultimately the truth is every couple I've ever known one's really much smarter than the others most of the time interesting most of the time one is much
02:32:13Andrew Wilsonsmarter I wanted to research this out so I went looking I was like now you know everybody has their biases could be that U it's just the types of people that I'm around maybe maybe it's a uh you know
02:32:25Andrew Wilsonfunction of the Midwest even though I grew up in California maybe it's something like that so I took to the one place where you can always find answers which are completely unbiased and always correct which is Reddit I knew you were
02:32:36Andrew Wilsongoing to say that so but I the reason I use Reddit threads a lot is because people often will Source data that you can't find by Googling Google will bury
02:32:45Andrew Wilsonresults Reddit the these like little tweaker you know Ma adal head you need a question answer yeah they're up there for like 5 hours a night just with one cigarette and coffee just typing away
02:32:57Andrew Wilsonright they actually will have some pretty good sources so I went and started diving into this uh well what was interesting in the thread one was how many women were asked do you think
02:33:08Andrew Wilsonyour husband do you are you in a position like a white collar position with a degree and your husband's blue collar and who do you think is smaller almost or smarter almost everyone on thread was like like one was like look
02:33:19Andrew WilsonI'm a doctor my husband's a mechanic he's way [ __ ] smarter than me then you go down the list and I was like actually it's it it actually kind of Mak sense right and then when they started posting uh the sources for this it
02:33:31Andrew Wilsonstarted to make sense too right so women like to punch up they like to punch above their weight class when it comes to dating when it comes to marriage when it comes to they don't really want to be equally yolked right so maybe it could
02:33:43Andrew Wilsonbe that there's some cases where there's a financial offset like I have more money than you but maybe the man surpasses you every other capacity and that's enough right I'm not saying in
02:33:54Andrew Wilsonall cases or even most but at least in some but it kind of reaffirm my bias a little bit that and and the more people I talk to hey look uh most couples aren't really that on par with each
02:34:06Andrew Wilsonother they don't really have similar interests all that often and that seems to be fine seems to work fine like I love video games wife [ __ ] hates them doesn't give a [ __ ] about them right likes to see me play
02:34:18TTS Readerthem but she doesn't care about him at all yeah um you know sorry thought grao tact donated $200 woman well
02:34:29Brian Atlasman she was a thief you got a belief she stole my heart and mind y thank youo thank you graffito tagged for the TTS W's in the chat guys for graffo good to see you back in the chat man thank you
02:34:41Andrew Wilsonso much for the TTS man but anyway just just to cap it off right so I don't ramble I'm just saying that there could be a variety of reasons for it I haven't got through all the data yet but it does seem to be the case that that women tend
02:34:53Lucy / Ruby / Rileyto married women anyway tend to report their husbands as being smarter than them interesting it is interesting yeah I I feel like it's like when you're looking for a partner you want to look up to them you want them to be someone
02:35:04Lucy / Ruby / Rileysomebody that inspires you that makes you feel secure if like there's someone who has their [ __ ] together um but I don't know I mean I I what one thing I've learned especially from being on
02:35:16Lucy / Ruby / Rileythis podcast is that my opinions V are very different I think than the average woman no see that's where you're different unfortunately you're not a unique Snowflake and I would say that
02:35:28Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyour opinions are just like most women Yeah well yeah because I think that like I I would want to be on par intelligence wise with my partner ideally oh but this goes actually what I was going to say this goes back to what we mentioned earlier and then we didn't really dive
02:35:40Lucy / Ruby / Rileyinto it but you said something about is it wrong or right for someone to want something in their partner that they themselves do not have and I I I feel like it really depends but on something like intelligence or on something like
02:35:53Lucy / Ruby / Rileylike traits like I almost feel like no because if it's something that you like something that inspires you then like you would want to be surrounded by that like I might want to be with somebody who like knows how to sail because I think that's cool and then boom we'll
02:36:06Andrew Wilsonsail together because you'll teach me that sort of thing people like to be taught but all you're doing is reaffirming gender roles well so wouldn't you want to be around men who are good at construction wouldn't you want to be around men who are good wouldn't you want to be around men who are good at all these things that you
02:36:18Andrew Wilsonhave a deficit in well then you're just reing then wait I just want to let you know you're just reaffirming gender rules you're just saying everything I feel that there's I can understand why I'd be want I'd want
02:36:30Andrew Wilsonto be surrounded by the things I I have a deficit in it's like well in this case then what would masculinity be it would be the offset for the things you have a deficit in right but also like I also
02:36:40Lucy / Ruby / Rileyfeel for me personally I like being around people who I like the version of myself that I'm presenting when I'm around them because they in like I Inspire them too they look up to me in certain ways like maybe I mean like I I
02:36:54Lucy / Ruby / Rileyhave a few friends who like I really enjoy being around because they genuinely like listen to everything that I have to say and they really like appreciate my advice or my skill or my knowledge on a subject and like I think that's super important too I don't want
02:37:05Lucy / Ruby / Rileyto be told what to do all different than a mate that's different than kind of disagree though because ideally your partner should be somebody that you have that Baseline friendship with so it's kind of like yeah there could be some traditional gender roles there but you know I want my partner to teach me
02:37:18Lucy / Ruby / Rileythings but I want to teach them things too like that's the beauty of having a connection with somebody I mean I don't know I guess it depends on the person to person I can't you want to teach him emotional intelligent no I I do I do my
02:37:29Lucy / Ruby / Rileypartner is already emotionally in really what do you want to teach a man well I I think that that's kind of the beauty of Life Is You Don't Know What To Expect and I might I'm just asking you right now what do you want to teach a
02:37:40Lucy / Ruby / Rileyman uh I don't know maybe about some literature maybe about philosophy going to teach him about literature or philosophy yeah i' I've had a few relationships that were like that you know he maybe had like a larger vocabulary than me but I was more well read than him it was like interesting
02:37:54Lucy / Ruby / Rileylike that like you know there's like different things where you can connect on something I don't want to learn about something I don't care about you know so it has to be something that I'm already somewhat what literature were you teaching men not I'm not like giving him a class like but like we like read books
02:38:05Lucy / Ruby / Rileytogether like I would read out loud for him like it was books it was cute yeah no not at B time we would like sit in the park and
02:38:14Lucy / Ruby / Rileylike he'd rub my feet while I read him a book yes oh my God I love wait can I read it like a Nicki Minaj w we here while while she's getting that
02:38:26Brian Atlason let me read this chat Lucas yo W's in the chat for Lucas boys the hubis hu oh my God hubris of recency bias my old man grew up in Nazi occupied Greece but
02:38:36Brian Atlastoday is scarier you really ought to read CS Lewis's 1941 weight of Glory sermon at Oxford University St Mary's
02:38:47Lucy / Ruby / RileyChurch is that for you I I have no idea I think that was than you Lucas oh I see okay thank you Lucas all right someone give me a beat smart
02:38:56Lucy / Ruby / RileyLuc go ahead that's Sam I Am that's Sam I Am I do not like that's Sam I Am do you like Green Eggs in Attitude into a I
02:39:07Lucy / Ruby / Rileydo not like them Sam I Am I do not like green eggs and ham would you like them here or there I would not like them here or there I would not like them anywhere
02:39:18Lucy / Ruby / RileyI do not like green eggs and ham I do not like them Sam I Am oh it's like slam poetry guys having so would you like them in a house would you like them with
02:39:28Lucy / Ruby / Rileya mouse I do not like them in a house I do not like them with a mouse I do not like them here or there I do not like them anywhere this was a terrible idea terrible terrible IDE I enjoy that thank
02:39:40Alicia Barbieyou it's because nobody laid me a beat that's why sorry we we we didn't figure we actually to figure out the Nick Minaj beat wait pull up in the moner system top Town AC with the cool system
02:39:52MizyI think wanting to read with your partner is cute it's like something that like it's something that I attracted to me my ex who we you were kind of brought this up but uh he now I do want to date a man with a job and not because I used to not care I used to be like oh it
02:40:04Mizydoesn't matter uh but when you date someone without a job who's not providing and then they resent you because you are doing all those things it's just not fun and then you resent them and it's just not a good Dynamic
02:40:17Mizybut anyways what what I did like about though was that we had these common interests and and he was like oh like let's read and then we can have like a book club and read to each other it's corny but it's like I don't know yeah dating someone that can teach you things like I
02:40:30Mizywould have never [ __ ] read a book but since he wants to read a book I'm like I guess I could read a book you know okay that sounds like he was teaching you stuff well I would want to teach each other's stuff like I taught him too much
02:40:42Mizyto where you know he resed me for that so really what did you teach him well just like just like oh this is not going to sound good he just we we were following the same passion and I think that it came a lot
02:40:54Mizyeasier to me than him and he resented me for that and he let me what was it um music music so bad that he kept my vocals in this song that he did not credit me for oh oh yeah and I wrote and didn't I didn't get writing credit
02:41:06Mizyeither oh anyways it's not it's just like there was a he didn't have a job like you know I was really good with his kid he he resented me he to drugs like you know like obviously I broke up with
02:41:16Mizyhim but like it's just now I have standards and like but you have to sometimes go through things to learn what you need because I wanted to have this mentality of oh if I just I shouldn't care about money and I'm not
02:41:29Mizysaying I need to date a rich man but I do want to date someone who can provide for me and that cares about something like you know it's not attractive to date someone who just doesn't care did you say that he stole your art I mean
02:41:42Mizythat technically if we want to get technical but he's not he's not it's not going to you know it's cool it's not going to be released yet we have a message we have he we have a message we
02:41:52Lucy / Ruby / Rileyhave a message here from libertariat go ahead 21 years of age and never been corrected on proper grammar Lucy is the definition of pretty privileg so you
02:42:02Lucy / Ruby / Rileythink I'm pretty oh my God no I think that we have made this clear is that when I am saying it maybe incorrectly to you in my head I am thinking it with the E I'm
02:42:14Mizynot wait where which camera are we looking at I'm not a dumbass okay you have a crush say that you're not yeah if you have a crush I just say
02:42:23Brian Atlasthat uh speaking of pretty privilege gorlock asks ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one
02:42:31Brian Atlasto wait did we not show that Super Chat it was under oh okay it was less than oh okay got it I didn't see that uh ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10 go ahead well per the
02:42:43Lucy / Ruby / Rileylast time that I was on here I'm a four and a half on a good day is what I got from that so your own rating go ahead um I think that I think I don't what you what did you say last time I said I was
02:42:57Mizya 10 last time go ahead uh negative 15 girl what are you okay that's what the people want yeah just you can't have you know good I'm just terrible I'm a terrible person
02:43:11Mizylike I don't know why anyone would want to date me like I'm obviously single for a reason you're really good at this life is myy I might believe you if I
02:43:21Mandydidn't know any better life is Mis yeah what's the actual answer to the question um I guess like a seven and a
02:43:31Lucy / Ruby / Rileyhalf I did some research before I came here and I'm just going to say seven uh if you had not done your
02:43:42Brian Atlasresearch what would you rate yourself a seven still a what still a seven all right why did you feel then yeah why why the qualifier of the I did the research you guys were like don't pick seven though because all the
02:43:55Lucy / Ruby / Rileygirls wanted to pick seven but then going in a line everyone followed to the 6.5 but I I seven
02:44:02Andrew Wilsontrue what okay what about with the ears um eight cuz it's fun yeah but does that raise the
02:44:13Mandyrating yes I went one up and said eight because it's fun okay the all the ears ra the the scale um I give myself four or five okay I'll just say
02:44:26Alicia Barbiefive what about you uh I give myself like a eight mhm I'll say a nine mhm just because just because what well this
02:44:38Brian Atlasis not how I normally dressed up so so normally you're a 10 or oh well I'm will be in the future um but you said normally you don't dress this way so does that mean you rank lower or higher
02:44:50Alicia Barbieno well yeah just cuz like I have like a little insecurity issue so I normally rate myself like a five but since I do my makeup and everything and get dressed
02:44:59Alicia Barbieup I would say a nine I see okay today yeah I feel like it's a six yeah what' you feel like yesterday yesterday I didn't wake up with pimples and I felt
02:45:10Brian Atlaslike a 10 like so good depend on the day so good it just depends on the day so normally you feel today right now you feel like you're six but Norm you feel
02:45:19Brian Atlaslike a a 10 a 10 okay it's the acne that gets every time oh my gosh um I say I'm an eight all right Andrew what about you 10 Andrew's a 10 I give I give myself a
02:45:32Alicia Barbiefive yeah what are you wait what are you laughing for I'm no I'm just what are you laughing for SE so many times trying to say that I'm not a 10 ridiculous look I mean you look very presentable so
02:45:44Andrew WilsonMH very presentable that doesn't sound like something you'd say about a 10 is that something you say about your grandfather you look very presentable today Grandpa maybe I can take you out maybe I can take you out of the peer get
02:45:55Andrew Wilsonyou an ice cream cone today Grandpa yeah the hairline is okay you need some metam musel this the same hairline I had at 20 it's a good it's a good hairline very good a lot of older
02:46:06Lucy / Ruby / Rileymen for rhinoplasty and then hair surgery like those are their two like men for surgery they're most likely for Rhino sorry Mike for a rhinoplasty and then a hair transplant yeah yeah like
02:46:19Lucy / Ruby / Rileythose are the ones they tend to do the most and a Gastronomy what the Yeah nose job ah well I guess that but really did men do that a lot wait we don't say guess that when you were like oh no no I was saying oh to the other thing which I
02:46:32Lucy / Ruby / Rileyalso did not know what that meant I knew what a rhinoplasty is but I I was just conc I was curious about men getting rhinoplastic cuz I don't know if I've ever heard of that yeah they do really I guess it's just they do the doctors do a good job you don't
02:46:45Andrew Wilsonnotice all right going around the table then for uh all these uh above average looking women uh do you think much above average by the way yes
02:46:58Brian Atlasyou only have the most beautiful women in the world on this podcast guest recruitment is uh Second To None uh do you think men will find you more or
02:47:07Brian Atlassorry [ __ ] scratch that hold on uh in 10 years time do you think you'll be better looking Lucy starting with you you're 21 do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years at 31
02:47:20Lucy / Ruby / RileyH uh what do you think just answer the question please okay no let's just go there all right yep
02:47:32Brian Atlasuh mizy you 29 better looking in 10 years time at 39 absolutely not if I was 21 and then you said 31 I would have said yes oh well so going back 10 years
02:47:43Brian Atlasuh do you think you're better looking now 29 than you were at 19 yes okay 100% all right you're 20 better looking in 10 years time at 30 yes better looking in
02:47:53Brian Atlas20 years time at 40 no okay uh your 20 better looking in 10 years time at 30 no okay you're 19 better looking in 10 years time at 29 oh yeah I think I will
02:48:03Brian Atlasbetter looking in 20 years time at 39 probably not no okay year 23 better looking in 10 years time at 33 yes better looking in 20 years time at 43
02:48:13Brian Atlasyes 30 years time at 53 yes 40 years time 63 yes 50 years time 73 60 years time just
02:48:23Alicia Barbiecontinuously this is what I did last time and every year I'm getting hotter I mean every day I'm getting hotter because every every does that work well
02:48:32Alicia BarbieI take NAD now NAD supplements that what are those is that doing a lot is NAD NAD is a supplement that uh helps you stay young it's like a Tik Tok thing but I
02:48:45Alicia Barbiehave the oh well then I know it must work what what does it do so there's you can do IV or you can do pills and right now I'm taking you can shoot it up you can inject it or you can they going to