1 SHOW LEFT?! Andrew Wilson IRL vs. SUPER FEMINISTS! She Did 1 Guy PER DAY?! | Dating Talk #221

Date: 2024-12-16
Duration: 10h 06m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donation(audience)
SPEAKER_02Mandy(guest)
SPEAKER_03Kenna(guest)
SPEAKER_04Mizy(guest)
SPEAKER_05Lucy / Ruby / Riley(guest)
SPEAKER_06Alicia Barbie(guest)
SPEAKER_07TTS/Other(audience)
SPEAKER_08TTS/Other(audience)
SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_11Naomi(guest)
SPEAKER_12TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_13Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_14Mandy (alt)(guest)

Key Moments

00:08:17
IntroFull panel introductions: Lucy (21, LA, waitress), Mizy (29, Hollywood, streamer/Fish Tank), Ruby (20, Nashville, car dealership), Mandy (20, N.CA, unemployed), Kenna (19, Nashville, OnlyFans), Alicia Barbie (23, Chicago, social media), Naomi (18, SD, OF/vet school), Riley (18, SD, OF/psychology), Andrew Wilson (The Crucible host), Brian Atlas (35, Whatever host).

hi my name is Lucy I'm 21 um I'm from LA and I work as a waitress

00:21:11
QuoteMandy reveals she has a bisexual boyfriend she met on Grindr and that she pegs him. Andrew's reaction is comedic disbelief.

so you went to grinder to try to pick up gay guys I was in a dark place okay Andrew

00:58:02
ControversyAlicia argues that men with high body counts who prefer low body count women are hypocrites. Andrew systematically dismantles the hypocrisy argument, explaining it is a preference not a moral condemnation. Heated back-and-forth.

do you guys think that that's uh problematic for high body count man to be like I only want to date a virgin

01:29:27
Key MomentBrian bets $1,000 that he can beat Lucy at roofing two birdhouses tomorrow, challenging her claim that women face barriers in construction. Lucy accepts with conditions.

if we're talking about like body count... I'll put 1,000 bucks down come in tomorrow

02:42:23
RelationshipSelf-ratings round: Lucy 7, Mizy 7.5, Ruby 4-5, Mandy 8, Alicia 8-9, Naomi 9, Riley 10/6 (day-dependent), Andrew 10, Brian 5.

ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10

04:26:21
ControversyMandy tearfully reveals her teenage sex addiction: she contracted stage-2 syphilis at ~17 and unknowingly gave it to her current boyfriend. Very emotional moment; Lucy and Mandy both cry. Andrew makes dark quip about the strap-on.

I I and I just [bleep] up my body I'm sorry it's okay

04:32:42
QuoteLucy empathetically supports Mandy after syphilis revelation: 'you can be vulnerable about it on this with all these people you don't know... this is something that people don't talk about but probably a lot of people go through.'

you're being vulnerable and that's super hard and like scary thank you thank you for sharing

05:06:19
ControversyKenna's pre-show notes reveal she was on every dating app at age 17, sleeping with a different guy roughly every other day for about a month. Brian reads the notes aloud; Kenna confirms and gives details.

no crazy stories other than when you were 17 you were on every dating app imaginable you were getting a different guy every day for about a month

05:08:57
QuoteKenna reveals her total body count is 19, with 15 of those coming in a single month at age 17.

my body counts only 19 so like after that like little phase I'm just like now I'm dating to Mary it's over

05:46:53
Key MomentFull body count round: Alicia 32, Lucy ~25, Mizy did not disclose (7.5 mentioned in context of rating), Ruby 10-12, Mandy ~40, Kenna 19, Naomi ~50, Riley 5, Andrew claims 1 (crowd skeptical), Brian ~5.

some of you already actually stated your body counts but why we just uh starting with you

06:29:39
ControversyAndrew introduces 'faking virtue' concept: women who ordinarily would sleep with a guy quickly but make a different guy wait because they believe he values chastity — tailoring apparent virtue to what the man wants.

I call this phenomenon faking virtue

07:48:58
ControversyAndrew debates whether trans people are obligated to disclose their status before sex. Uses progressively more extreme hypotheticals (mask analogy). Panel and Brian discuss risks of heterosexual men being labeled bigots for not wanting to sleep with trans women.

all I'm asking is that men who generally try to proposition women for sex get rejected

09:00:11
ControversyAlicia and Andrew clash over race and Black history. Alicia struggles to name continents, confuses Cape Cod with Cape Town. Andrew discusses South African land reform and Black-on-Black crime comparisons. The exchange becomes heated before Brian moves on.

are they are they making their mothers their they killed them get together

09:22:49
OtherDonors pay guests to remove makeup and wigs. Most guests comply — transformation is notable (Kenna especially). Alicia initially refuses citing Barbie identity, eventually removes her wig. Chat roasts guests with makeup-related donations.

Makenna do it no excuses play Like A Champion my eyebrows

10:03:17
QuoteBrian announces Tuesday's final show of 2024: Andrew Wilson vs. a mystery guest. Teases it's 'going to be big.'

we will be live again Tuesday at 5:00 PM Pacific for our final show final show of the Year Andrew will be there we have a big guest

Topics Discussed

00:05:38
Guest Introductions & Champagne Pop

Brian introduces the panel; each guest gives name, age, location, occupation. Yellow Banana donor sends champagne pop for Andrew Wilson. Relationship statuses discussed round-table.

00:20:30
Relationship History & Unusual Dynamics

Mandy reveals she has a bisexual/gay boyfriend met on Grindr and pegs him. Kenna discusses recent breakup. Alicia admits to cheating in all relationships despite being married. Father relationship round discussed.

00:58:00
Body Count Hypocrisy Debate

Andrew and Brian debate whether men with high body counts who prefer low-count women are hypocrites. Alicia argues it's hypocritical; Andrew argues preferences are not the same as moral condemnation. Height vs body count comparison. Alicia reveals body count of 32.

01:20:00
Women in Male-Dominated Fields / Gender Roles Debate

Discussion about women working in construction, applied engineering, oil rigs. Brian challenges guest to a roofing competition for $1,000. Nature vs nurture in career choices. Andrew debates with Lucy and others about women's choices vs. societal barriers.

02:42:23
Self-Ratings Round

Guests rate themselves on a scale of 1-10: Lucy 7, Mizy 7.5, Ruby 4-5, Mandy 8, Alicia 8-9, Naomi 9, Riley 10/6 (varies by day). Andrew rates himself 10. Brian rates himself 5.

02:47:00
Will You Be Better Looking in 10/20/99 Years?

Brian asks if each guest will be better looking in 10 and 20 years. Alicia controversially claims she'll be hotter at 99, leading to extended philosophical debate. Andrew uses empty beer cup as analogy for the soul/body question.

04:26:21
Mandy's Syphilis Story

Brian asks Mandy about her sex addiction as a teenager. She reveals she contracted stage-2 syphilis at ~17 from a party guy she suspects was bisexual. Her current boyfriend noticed red spots on her back and made her go to the doctor. Both were treated with large injections. Very emotional segment.

05:04:53
Kenna's OnlyFans & Sex Addiction Discussion

Kenna's pre-show notes read aloud: calls herself emotionally unstable nymphomaniac. Had a 'ho phase' at 17 — sleeping with ~10-15 men in a month (every other day off dating apps). Total body count 19. Her friend Ruby discusses whether to start OnlyFans. Mizy ends up crying about pressure.

05:46:53
Body Count Round Table

Full panel body counts: Alicia 32, Lucy ~25 (stopped counting), Mizy 7.5 (self-rating shown here was a different number), Ruby 10-12, Mandy ~40 (uncertain), Kenna 19, Naomi ~50 (lost V at 13-14), Riley 5, Andrew 1 (disputed/joked). Naomi started OF on 18th birthday.

06:13:00
Dating Standards & Faking Virtue

Andrew introduces concept of 'faking virtue' — women who would sleep with a guy immediately but make another wait because they think he prefers virtuous women. Lucy debates this. Panel discusses men who lie about wanting relationships to get sex. Brian gives reverse example.

07:48:58
Trans Disclosure Debate

Andrew debates whether trans people are obligated to disclose before sex. Uses mask analogy/hypothetical. Panel mostly agrees disclosure should be required. Brian discusses risks of being labeled bigot for heterosexual preferences.

08:55:00
Race & Africa Discussion

Alicia and Andrew get into heated exchange about Black history and racism. Alicia struggles to name continents and African countries (confuses Cape Cod with Cape Town). Andrew discusses South African white farmers. Chat reacts with TTS messages about crime statistics.

09:13:40
Feminist Debate / Women's Equal Rights

Brian reads pre-show survey results: do women have equal rights to men in the US? Mixed answers — Lucy: maybe; Mizy: yes; Ruby: yes; Mandy: no; Kenna: yes; Alicia: no; Naomi: no; Riley: no. Andrew argues women do have equal rights. Alicia cites abortion; Andrew: men can't have abortions either.

09:22:49
Makeup Removal & Wig Reveal

Donors pay guests to remove makeup. Most guests take off makeup and look notably younger. Alicia refuses initially (claims Barbie identity), eventually takes off wig revealing natural hair. Lucy also takes off lashes. Chat reacts that makeup was 'doing heavy lifting.' Kenna's transformation is dramatic.

10:00:05
Whether to Quit OnlyFans

Brian asks the younger girls if they'll quit OnlyFans. Kenna says when she's old. Naomi says after she graduates vet school. Riley says same. Brian expresses concern about the path they're on.

Transcript

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00:54:56
Lucy / Ruby / Rileya yeah we have a chat here from Brooks J uh Lucy goosey I'm going to have you read the chance go ahead okay Brooks Jay donated $100 he said drinking game rules
00:55:09
Lucy / Ruby / Rileymake your story about them gives them the ick one panelist talks for another laugh without a punchline fixes their hair oh wait is this about me says she's
00:55:19
Brian Atlasa 10 oh boy this is about to be rough uh where's the rest uh oh oh or was it just dot dott that it thank you Brooks J for
00:55:29
Brian Atlasthe uh Super Chat I do appreciate it guys if you want $200 for TTS $100 to read uh we typically uh curate those at a later time during the show uh we're
00:55:40
Brian Atlasgoing to get into our first reaction here so uh why don't we do actually let's do uh one of the panelists has a
00:55:48
Brian Atlasboyfriend application we're going to review that it's uh it's uh Kenna yes let's look at her boyfriend's application all right make it bigger for
00:56:01
Brian Atlasme make it bigger bigger all right this is her boyfriend application looking for a new lover boy um so you want to where are you from I wrote I was going to fill it
00:56:14
Brian Atlasout after so you want the Instagram how old are you how tall why is it why is it a
00:56:21
Brian Atlastwo there's 5 to 5 foot 10 so is it like so it if they are shorter than 510 it's disqualified no it's not disqualified
00:56:31
Brian AtlasI'll just like look at you like last I see okay you uh what kind of job do you have do you like cats do you have yes I have cats multiple plural yeah I have two cats two cats okay two son what
00:56:43
Andrew Wilsonwould you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10 there's that okay wait wait wait hang on back up back up it says what is your favorite kind of car yes can you I missed that one okay can you name four
00:56:55
Kennadifferent kinds of cars I yeah um okay Ford Escort Hyundai Genesis Hyundai Genesis Coupe no those are different cars a
00:57:06
Kennadifferent one um Honda Accord and um a Prius are you dating anybody who drives a Honda Accord no no of course not okay
00:57:16
Brian Atlasall right back to it uh scroll down what is your favorite thing to do in your free time do you go to the gym yes no sometimes where do you see yourself in
00:57:26
Brian Atlas10 years yeah where do you see yourself in 10 years uh living on a beach in Florida all right did you did you invest your money tell me a joke ad pick if you
00:57:37
Brian Atlaslike okay that's great um it wasn't too bad the boyfriend can you tell us a joke no no um H that is
00:57:48
Brian Atlasinteresting do you guys think it's fair that women demand things from men like traits that they don't possess themselves can you elaborate on that question well like for example right this this tends to come off up typically later parts of
00:58:02
Brian Atlasthe show but if we're talking about like body count women have like massive objections to like for example a man who has a high body count stating uh quite emphatically that he prefers women with a low body count or virgins you guys
00:58:14
Brian Atlasthink well that's not fair like here you are with your high body count you are promiscuous but you want to take a non-promiscuous woman you want a virgin that's hypocrisy that's a double standard but I mean well first off while we maybe
00:58:28
Alicia Barbiestart there do you guys think that that's uh problematic for high body count man to be like I only want to date a virgin why is that problema it because it's like you have a high body count and you're expecting your woman to have a
00:58:39
Alicia Barbielow body count that's that's kind well that's just restating the issue but what's actually problematic about the issue it's just because like he's been sleeping with multiple people like multiple women and then like this girl
00:58:51
Alicia Barbielet's say she's only SLE with three women not three women um three like men or whatever ever like and he's or no no okay let me give like a better example let's just say he had to pick between a
00:59:02
Alicia Barbiegirl that had like 30 plus body count and then like a three plus body count obviously his body count is probably like maybe 40 I want to say let's say it's 60 60 let's say 60 right so and he
00:59:14
Alicia Barbiedecides to choose the girl with the lowest body count and his poor excuse is well like well she has the lowest body count she hasn't been sleeping with a lot of women what's the problem that that but the thing about it is is like
00:59:25
Alicia Barbieyou're it's it's kind of signifying that the other woman is a [ __ ] and like um like no it's just signifying that he has a preference for women with a low body yeah but like he has a high body counts so he can still have a preference it's
00:59:37
Alicia Barbieokay I'm not saying you can't have a preference or anything but just like to disregard the other woman just because she has a higher body count that's that's kind of like upsetting like what if she had a really good chemistry what
00:59:49
Alicia Barbieif she had like a really an amazing personality and her body count was just like your like noo your no break I could say let me ask you a question would you
00:59:58
Alicia Barbiedate a 5 foot2 man who was bald yes have you yes and what and is your husband a 5 foot2 man who's bald he is not bald he's not and is he 5'2 hang on is he 5'2 he's
01:00:10
Andrew Wilson6'2 yeah 6'2 so now hang on hang on let's back up hang on let's back up let's back up just a little bit here okay so he's 6'2 has hair even though
01:00:19
Andrew Wilsonyou would of course St to five and how many 5'2 bald men were available to you versus foot to in with hair so the thing hang on answer the question first answer the question first that's let me answer
01:00:32
Alicia Barbieyour question first I don't really go out that much to be seeking not the question I'm asking okay far more 5'2 bald men than there are 6'2 men I just don't know where they they are so for me
01:00:42
Alicia Barbiethere actually might be so I I should help lot like 6'2 men with hair right yeah but like if a 5 foot 10 man with no hair comes up to me and he
01:00:55
Alicia Barbieapproaches to me and he a gentleman and he's very you know um courteous and he like is gentle I would go for him but I mean now we'll never know cuz you're with a 6'2 Chad with hair right and
01:01:07
Andrew Wilsonthat's because like he that's your preference no no cuz he aligned with me in my life and he just happened to be 6'2 How did he have the perfect personality and happen to be 6'2 that's
01:01:19
Alicia Barbiean what an amazing coincidence I'm just saying I would I would date like a van Diesel if I had to I mean diesel is like
01:01:28
Brian Atlasthe best example of bald don't even so to to Andrew's Point here when when we talk about this height thing and a lot of like we've asked this all the
01:01:38
Brian Atlastime and it's like the women will say it's virtue signaling you you'll say yes oh I would date a short guy I'll date a guy shorter than me but then if you do even the most minimal Inquisition well how tall were all your boyfriends and
01:01:50
Brian Atlasthey all your boyfriends were above the average height of men so average height is like 5'9 5'10 and these women say oh my past three boyfriends were all like six foot in the on average it's just like it's kind of ridiculous like you
01:02:03
Alicia Barbiesay you will but conveniently you've never done it I actually have dated somebody who was like my height 5 foot I'm 5'5 and he was like 5 five five so
01:02:14
Alicia Barbiewe only been speaking to each other for like 2 years and talking to each other but he's a very busy guy so therefore his did you did you sleep with him well
01:02:23
Andrew Wilsonyes of course okay so so so so hang on so so you slept you slept with this guy now out of this one guy that you slept with yeah if we were to average all the men you've ever slept with do they look
01:02:35
Andrew Wilsona bit more like the husband or a bit more like that guy no because my taste and Min is very different okay so on average so on average you're sleeping
01:02:43
Alicia Barbiewith men who are below 5' n yes really aely a [ __ ] some more oh my God I will give you proof I will give you proof if you need it like I'm being so for real cuz I'm not like a surface of a
01:02:56
Alicia Barbieall right all right let's F hang on okay so let's inquire a little F okay so how many men total I you total I have slept with 32 menal okay so 32 men now out of
01:03:08
Alicia Barbiethe 32 men right some of these I assume are casual yes you're casually hooking up with 5 foot5 dudes yes over the 6 foot dudes because it height doesn't matter to me it does not like okay I'm
01:03:21
Alicia Barbiebeing for real height does not matter to me as long it's just your age if you're younger than me then it's that's my biggest pet but you did conveniently
01:03:27
Alicia Barbiemarry someone 6'2 it was be actually he's 6'2 he he's not 6'2 he um he's between 6 foot to never mind um you know
01:03:40
Andrew Wilsonwhat what the hell what what just happened what the hell just happened it's way too early to have a meltdown in this show okay that's way
01:03:50
Alicia Barbietoo early for that so back back up for my like let me drink really okay uh so I guess you need to fortify yourself for this so no the average height that I
01:04:01
Alicia Barbiewould normally date a guy is between 5'5 to 6'5 okay that's the that's like but the maxim that's not an average is 510 the average is 510 okay that makes sense so
01:04:13
Andrew Wilsonif the average is around 510 yes 510 is much taller than you yes okay so the thing is is like why don't you just want guys your own size um because you have some kind of preference because no they got have some
01:04:26
Alicia Barbiekind of preference no they have big big um what is it big man small man syndrome or something orig why you look at you hang on hang on hang on and you have some kind of preference against that
01:04:37
Alicia Barbieright no because small dog syndrome something small dog syndome and you have a preference against that I don't have a preference against that then why aren't you dating guys with small dog syndrome because it's just their attitude then you have a preference against that
01:04:49
Andrew Wilsonattitude wait wait can I can so if you have a preference yeah so if you have a preference against that attitude you prefer not have it then all you're saying you're just you're just making the same argument the guy is where he's like look I just prefer to be with
01:05:01
Alicia Barbiechicks that have a lower body count but what but okay so when you're talking about preferences like things I like just things I like that's it okay but what like like okay so you do you like
01:05:13
Andrew Wilsonpizza yeah I like okay what are the toppings you hate I don't hate any toppings not one not one I could eat pizza anchovies I could eat anchovies yeah I'm I'm okay okay let's try a
01:05:25
Alicia Barbiedifferent way what's your favorite toppings my favorite topping would have to be cheese okay so you you prefer your pizzas to have cheese well don't all pizzas have cheese no so you've had you
01:05:38
Andrew Wilsoncould have a cheesee free pizza I did not know that but anyway but this sace and bread this is I mean that's what like lactose intolerant people get right or they get fake cheese or something like this but you have a preference for
01:05:50
Andrew Wilsonit or some type of food there's some type of food that you like a certain way like a sandwich what type of sandwich much meat do you hate are you going love all that too is there just nothing you won't eat there cuz I'm an eater I'm a
01:06:00
Andrew Wilsontourist so you got to understand I like food okay tus what's a food you hate what is a mushrooms okay you hate mushrooms so you have a preference against mushrooms I have a preference against mushroom now mushrooms won't kill you to eat them right no they won't I just don't like how they taste not
01:06:14
Andrew Wilsonyeah okay so that's a preference it's just an I like so when you're talking about relationships and guys you're just talking about I like I dislike I like this I like this I like this so mean to just be like what do you mean it's mean
01:06:25
Alicia Barbieguy were to come up to me and like says uh let's just for example like I said if I my body count is 32 right and there's a girl that has like maybe like what three to five and then he chooses the girl that has less than me and then I
01:06:38
Andrew Wilsonask him okay why did you pick that girl makes you feel bad it does make me feel bad makes you feel bad well yeah it makes me feel bad because it's just like but what is he doing that's wrong other than making you feel bad well well one
01:06:48
Alicia Barbiemy feelings yeah your feelings my feelings but also too like so your feelings but also too like it's like monkey see monkey do type thing like if
01:07:00
Alicia Barbieyou have a high body count as a man and I have a high body count as a woman like and we're both having you know intercourse with different people why does my body count is disregarded in
01:07:10
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyour preferences because you don't like it just like you don't like mushrooms I have a question for Andrew though do you feel like there's an actual difference like could you tell someone's body count before they actually tell you cuz I feel like people lie about that time maybe
01:07:24
Lucy / Ruby / Rileynot with a lot of people so like I just am curious like how that preference Works other than like a societal impact I guess it's just a revulsion so it's like here's here's an idea have you ever
01:07:35
Andrew Wilsoneat have you ever eaten dog [ __ ] I would not like to why not it's a preference because it's revolting yeah but I I also but wait a second wait a second couldn't somebody put dog [ __ ] in a cake and you
01:07:47
Andrew Wilsonwouldn't know it I mean so you could accidentally eat dog [ __ ] what an interesting analogy wait a second you could accident hang on hang on an answer you could accidentally eat dog [ __ ] yeah you could and that would suck hang on
01:07:59
Andrew Wilsonthat would suck right so you're saying you could be tricked cuz you don't know but you're still if you knew that there was dog [ __ ] you wouldn't eat the cake would you fair enough okay yeah but also like I wanted to say just super quick and we can go back but when you're
01:08:12
Lucy / Ruby / Rileytalking about like men's height versus like women's body count men don't have control over their height they're just born that way they grow they stop growing and then like but women and men have control over their body count so it's kind of hard to compare those two
01:08:25
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyou have control way you have control over with how many people you sleep but do you have control over the things you prefer no but I I that's why yes and no on the box because I feel like is it is
01:08:36
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyit hypocritical but you don't believe but is it wrong no you can't force somebody to date somebody wait it's not hypocrisy I mean a little bit not even a little bit no no no no no no
01:08:46
Andrew Wilsonhypocrisy people get this wrong all I don't know why but what hypocrisy is is I'm advocating for a thing of which I'm guilty right while telling you right the
01:08:58
Andrew Wilsonperson that you cannot do said hang on hang on so if you were to say you having a body count is wrong even though I have the same body count right but that's not wrong that would be hypocrisy me saying
01:09:10
Andrew Wilsonthough I have a high body count and prefer women with a lesser body count is not hypocrisy okay hypocrisy you prefer it because you you think it's revolting yeah so imagine it this way but you don't think yourself is revolting yeah yeah hang on hang on imagine it this way let's say there's a fat person on a
01:09:24
Andrew Wilsontreadmill they know they're fat they know they're fat and so they're trying to lose weight right they're on the treadmill and they look over at somebody else and they say hey you're fat you should lose weight they're not a
01:09:33
Andrew Wilsonhypocrite there's no hypocrisy there the hypocrisy would be if they say if they say hey you're fat right and I'm not that would be that would be like
01:09:43
Andrew Wilsonhypocrisy okay yeah yeah wouldn't that be like condescending then it would be both that's but people get hypocrisy wrong all the time they think that that hypocrisy is being guilty of the thing
01:09:55
Andrew Wilsonwhich you're condemning that's not actually what it is it's the belief that the thing in which you're condemning is actually fine there's like a pretense of pretending with hypocrisy so technically a man with a
01:10:07
Alicia Barbiehigher body count who prefers a woman with a low body count is a hypocritical man and he prefers to be what explain he's not he's not a hypocrite there's no hypocrisy we're not going to get
01:10:18
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyanywhere at this line of questioning but I do wonder I feel like because we've been talking about the same thing for 10 minutes but I'm not the host so who am I however I conversation you're wrecking Wrecking the whole conf I'm sorry go ahead go ahead but I am curious because
01:10:32
Lucy / Ruby / RileyI feel like you don't often see that perspective coming from woman of woman with high body count saying I want a man with a lower body count so I just I'm curious why you think that that is oh it's it's actually really simple so the
01:10:42
Andrew Wilsonidea of paternity is is something which men only recently could be assured of mhm so the idea that I know that the kid
01:10:52
Andrew Wilsonthat you have is mine we can now know but that's a very new technology before that how could you know if the child was yours so then would that only apply to situations where you're trying to like
01:11:03
Andrew Wilsondate someone to marry wouldn't apply to like a normal hookup you might no the that's all new tech these are all new technologies okay so here's the idea the idea is if you were sleeping with a
01:11:16
Andrew Wilsonwoman before she's your wife or even she's not your wife how could you assure paternity absent a paternity test by having I guess her only sleep with one person
01:11:26
Andrew Wilsonchild hang on hang on so so this would imply that there could be a revulsion mechanism okay a revulsion mechanism around the idea that if a woman is promiscuous that you could not be
01:11:38
Andrew Wilsonassured assured paternity and so there's an internal revulsion which happens saying it's kind of passed down it's generational well I I think I think it's biological okay it's a biological way to create an assurance for paternity
01:11:52
Mizyinteresting so I have a question so basically like what do you think about if a girl is like like let's say she's like 40 or 50 and like she wants to remarry and a guy cares or like let's
01:12:03
Mizyjust say she's 35 she's been with six people but she's had six boyfriends she's been in six relationships where she wanted to get married maybe a guy cheated on her maybe they weren't compatible like but she wasn't
01:12:14
Andrew Wilsonpromiscuous then does what is that difference than someone who's three or well so it's interesting because like uh these red pillars these like online red pillars who everybody hates they're like
01:12:26
Andrew Wilsoncall everybody whes and they actually really don't they actually try to dive into exactly these ideas mhm so the idea let's say you had a woman who had elated relationships maybe she only had two or
01:12:38
Andrew Wilsonthree right and they were long-term relationships well that would signify something completely different than a woman who's promiscuous even if the body counts a little higher right so even let's say it's five and 50 years right
01:12:50
Andrew Wilsonthat's one partner for 10 years right that's going to be a way different story than well not to pick on you right but uh you know 50 or 60 Partners in a year that's
01:13:02
Mizygoing to signify a promiscuity issue right and that's also like dangerous to like our bodies like I feel like to an extent you should care who you're sleeping with and how many people they're sleeping with and I think that
01:13:14
Andrew Wilsonyou can change your mind and maybe that's okay if men do want to change their mind like I think that and they do and the the thing is is like this happens it's not like there's not you know porn stars out there don't get
01:13:26
Andrew Wilsonwonderful they do some of them do but mostly they don't and also the idea here is that men do find it they do find it repugnant they do find it repulsive where you think that it's a double
01:13:37
Andrew Wilsonstandard that could be true right Society does Judge promiscuous men differently than promiscuous women but that's because of women women judge them differently than men do too that's so true yeah women judge each other more than any think about this but think
01:13:49
Andrew Wilsonabout why think about why that would be why that would be the case it's because you're always a paternity like you always know who the baby's dad's going to be they don't know wa so it's not as
01:14:01
Mizybuil in for you to have that Revol just meant more so like if it's just down to a number right like saying three versus like 10 like but if it was you're again 35 and you've been in 10 relationships where I feel like there should be some
01:14:14
Andrew Wilsonkind of like but every situation is going to be different when you ask for like a hard cut off I don't even think we need to give one just make it easy right right everything after one is worse than one after zero is worse than
01:14:27
Andrew Wilsonzero it's pretty simple right so so it's like well how what what's the cut off is it three is it four is it five who gives a [ __ ] ultimately everything after zero is worse than zero everything after one
01:14:39
Andrew Wilsonis worse than one everything after two is worse than two right you only really need to think of it that way what other way do we even need to think of it don't think of it St but the thing is is like
01:14:51
Mandymen do think of it m well and it also matters because like if you're someone who's had like relations with a lot of people like and I don't know maybe you're someone who doesn't get tested regularly or something and you get with
01:15:03
Andrew Wilsonsome other person they could contract something you know you don't want someone who's been sleeping around with a bunch of people who you don't know where they've been the only the only problem I I kind of take with this you're right don't get me wrong totally
01:15:15
Andrew Wilsonright it's just that it comes from a female perspective so you kind of think about things from the perspective of the of women well I am a woman so that would make sense sure sure sure but but what
01:15:27
Andrew WilsonI'm saying is my challenge is to say to you instead take yourself out of the female perspective yourself in the male perspective right you will always be
01:15:36
Andrew Wilsonassured of paternity you always know it's your kid you will always know that we don't have that luxury right we at least historically we never did only
01:15:47
Andrew Wilsonright now do we have that luxury women women in fact beat men up for asking to get a paternity test even though they elves have absolute knowledge right it's
01:15:58
Mizylike it's like so look at it from the perspective of the man for a second friend going through that right now like wouldn't like I I just to challenge it like it doesn't it come down to like if you're like a [ __ ] Like or not like if
01:16:11
Mizyyou're sleeping around and you wouldn't know versus you're only with that person and you're exclusive and you haven't been with someone since your last relationship I I mean just in my personal I guess views are that it's
01:16:22
Andrew Wilsonjust different like that I feel like but are you relaying those views to you personally because this is this is has something to do with your own personal situation mhm are you uh maybe a little
01:16:33
Andrew Wilsonbit but I think that like it's isn't it interesting right it's like think of the question here though take yourself out put yourself in the Man's Shoes instead relays right back to me my own personal situation then I'll relay it back to the
01:16:45
Andrew Wilsonman it's like forget all that just create a blank slate for a second right you're tomorrow you wake up and you're a male right let's look at it from Men's
01:16:56
Andrew Wilsonperspective now if you sleep with a woman how are you assured paternity how are you assured that the child is yours what would be the signs you would look for that would frustrate me yeah it's hard to think about that
01:17:09
Andrew Wilsonobviously yeah super hard to think about right because I as a woman I all I would say is like oh well just don't sleep with bunch of wom cond you just say don't sleep with a bunch of women or a bunch of men and then and then there's no problem and that's exactly what men
01:17:22
Lucy / Ruby / Rileysay they say the same thing they're like hey just don't sleep with a bunch of in yeah problem solved what if it's like prior body count and then you're with somebody for an entire like you know couple years or whatever and then like you're the only they're the only person
01:17:34
Andrew Wilsonthat you're I think that would depend on the person like just like at that point do you think it still matters or would it be down I think that I think it's still going to matter to a lot of men yeah interesting I think that they're still going to look at so I mean when we
01:17:45
Andrew Wilsonevaluate other people we men especially we tend to look at the total not just looking at the the sort of like individual things it seems to me when I have these conversations with women they
01:17:56
Andrew Wilsonlook at more individual traits right uh perhaps he's very tall he's a good provider perhaps there's an aggressiveness level they like right there's some sort of they kind of move more towards intuition men aren't doing
01:18:09
Andrew Wilsonthat looking at it like a [ __ ] accountant right they take the total and they're like well she's hot and she's this and she's got a low body count and blah blah blah she checks all the boxes all right let's go right that's that's literally how they view it they view it
01:18:21
Andrew Wilsona completely different way than women do they're not really looking at it intuitively is it more of like a logical or an analytical completely of course yes it's literally an an analysis they're doing an analysis and so what
01:18:34
Andrew Wilsonlike this whole manosphere Space was or the whole red pill space it still is the idea is just if you're going to if men are going to make this analysis how do we inform it like how do we inform that analysis so they're making a good one
01:18:47
Mandywell the thing is like women are so like we're so like emotionally drived driven dri drived D driven Jesus that that big
01:18:56
Mandyfail on that one that was massive fail that was incredible Wowway go ahead we're emotionally driven creatures so we don't so a lot of the time we kind of forget to think about
01:19:09
Mandythe logic because we're so emot like so caught up in our emotions but what about the man can the man be more emotional can he there there there are circumstances we're probably biologically biologically speaking women
01:19:20
Mandyare more emotional cuz we have estrogen men have testosterone so we're going to be more emotionally inclined we have the maternal Instinct so I mean I don't know it's but can a
01:19:32
Alicia Barbieman look at it at a situation for example paternity tests whatever can he look at it rather from an uh an emotional standpoint than an analogical we call those men
01:19:43
Andrew Wilsonsimps so the thing is is like yes a man can become overly emotional and he can let his little brain override his big brain right and some men do math some
01:19:55
Andrew Wilsonyeah some some men do do that and but the thing is men now are trying to police it up right so they're like [ __ ] simp stop doing that what are you doing right this is terrible for you
01:20:07
Andrew Wilsonit's terrible for her it's terrible for the world stop it right that they're actually making a concerted effort to police that [ __ ] up women aren't really making in fact they're doing the opposite they're like you go girl girl
01:20:18
Andrew Wilsonpower get your thing on do whatever it is that you want to do you know there's no real effort there to police the behavior up for men there is one there's a concerted effort to try to do that but
01:20:29
Alicia Barbiewhy would why would you want to why can a man be more emotionally in tune with his emotions why do they have to be policed well I mean so here's the thing
01:20:41
Andrew Wilsonum you like all the modern luxuries that you have you like your lighting and you like your your vehicles and you like your roads and you like all those things I just want to let you know that there's men right now who are aggressively
01:20:53
Andrew Wilsonmurdering people in their sleep to make sure that that all happens for you aggressively right this second as we speak some American Soldier somewhere stabbing some dude in the throat promise you don't know where it is but I promise
01:21:05
Andrew Wilsonyou it's happening right he's not going to be very emotional about that and you don't really want him to be very emotional about that and women don't really want emotional men they kind of pretend they do right they want to kind
01:21:16
Andrew Wilsonof they want I I think at least this my opinion I think that they want the man that they really like to show some emotion to them but they don't really
01:21:27
Andrew Wilsonlike when the man that they have is showing a lot of emotion to other people in other words they don't want a [ __ ] okay that actually makes sense your
01:21:39
Lucy / Ruby / Rileystandpoint on that one I disagree we we got a couple chats here we have techn Trooper thank you man uh Luc I'll have you read these in the recent possible ban of Tik Tok should o be the next ban
01:21:51
Brian Atlasis O fueling explo exploitation under the guise of empower boy that's a that question that's going to be a brutal one Brian to Dive Right into oh my yeah we I don't want to linger too long on porn bad convo just
01:22:03
Brian Atlasbecause it's not super interesting but um uh who hears in favor of only fans ban who he's in favor of a Tik Tok ban L yes ruining my
01:22:14
Andrew Wilsonlife oh look at look at that Moon boys right over wait can you guys see it full moon or almost we can't see it from any I I prefer I prefer not to have a Tik Tok band only because I like all my lunatics in one
01:22:28
Andrew Wilsonplace they're kind of spread out Tik tok's the same thing as Instagram the problem is they're just going to go to another platform and be just as insane on that PL it's like we know where all the insane people are just leave them
01:22:39
Mizythere they did that with Vine yeah they did do that with right uh so uh of girls should it be banned what do you think I mean I think on social media
01:22:51
MizyI think like if people want to do that like but on like kids are on these apps like there's children that get promoted this as very young ages so I think that um Tik Tok is very catered to children and you're lying if you're saying
01:23:04
Mizythey're not having Accounts at say 18 plus and parents aren't able to monitor it so I think that it's just to make it platform like you know what I mean like just to an extent like it's it's it's
01:23:15
Mandybetter to just take it off like social media so that kids are protected I 100% agree I have seen a full Chocolate Starfish on my Tik Tok for you page did not want to see that what does that mean
01:23:26
Andrew Wilsonthat's [ __ ] disgusting but wait why would that bother you like don't you always see one of
01:23:36
Mandythose oh my God that was like the best possible way you could have responded to that the same reason it bothers her I
01:23:46
Mandydon't want children to scroll past that oh okay because even if you do say oh I'm 18 plus you just press a button you could be 11 and say oh I'm 18 plus and it's just their parents account or
01:23:58
Alicia Barbiewhatever the same thing happens with only fans there's no doubt in my mind that that happens with only fans isn't it the parents like responsibility for monitoring their you cannot monitor that much you cannot you literally canot
01:24:10
Alicia Barbieshouldn't have phones monitor that if you if you're if you can't if you can't monitor your child's like screens or whatever they should just come up what happens if your
01:24:22
Mandychild is 16 and runs away cuz you monitor their phone yeah exactly my parents [ __ ] monitored the [ __ ] out of my phone and it made me turbo [ __ ] for a
01:24:32
Alicia Barbieyear like a form of reng I've been in a an environment of in a sexual environment for a very long time and I saw pornography when I was
01:24:43
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyreally young so okay s I'm moving that [ __ ] on sorry you just took it to the wrong place can you read this please uh why is it so difficult for these gals to accept that attraction triggers and
01:24:54
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyreproductive strategies between men and women are asymmetrical our ontology intrinsic hardwiring is vastly different it's true that's true the basis of the very being of what is woman this is why like
01:25:06
Andrew Wilsonthe rad turfs you've seen the rad turfs the trans exclusionary radical feminists like JK Rowling and those the reason the reason that they're so upset about the
01:25:17
Andrew Wilsonentire trans phenomenon is based on this particular argument they're saying what is a woman is no you can't just just you men can't just come in and take that from us because there's something that's special about it and unique about it
01:25:29
Andrew Wilsonright a woman is a human female person yeah yeah I get it but but leaving but leaving that aside for a second to the point of ontology or the the the like being or Essence of a thing right when
01:25:41
Mandyyou're talking about what that is with a woman it does seem like there is something to that actually I I agree with that because I have seen that I think they did some brain scans or something and they show that people who
01:25:53
Mandylike for example there's a man and he he identifies as a woman or she identifies as a woman whatever um they scan the brain and he has the brain matter of a
01:26:05
Andrew Wilsonwoman yeah all the all the brain scan stuff is total [ __ ] it's all I mean I don't know I'm not a scientist I don't know but the thing is when you're talking about ontologies like this is the
01:26:16
Andrew Wilsonphilosophical um diving into of being of what being is so do do women have a different being than men do yeah I think they do I think there is a lot of
01:26:27
Andrew Wilsondistinctions between men and women level yeah yeah but it's not it's not just the idea of the biology itself but the essence of the thing I I I think
01:26:39
Lucy / Ruby / Rileythat's such an interesting topic to talk about because that could be true but I think that there is a pretty large chunk of it that is societally based and I think I almost wonder if we didn't raise
01:26:49
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyboys and girls differently if that sort of I cuz a lot of brain P like a a lot of brain activity is pattern recognition so I think that if people weren't didn't grow like grow up to think oh old boys should be thinking this way and girls
01:27:02
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyshould be thinking this way that there would be more similarities I mean of course there are physical similarity sorry differences that are hard to be you can't there you can't change that that sort of thing like my muscle mass is nowhere near um and then but but I do
01:27:15
Andrew Wilsonfeel like there's got to be some sort of societal value to that as well well yeah think about like well let's let's explore it for just a quick second if this is true if you think that there's there's so you're talking about nature
01:27:28
Andrew Wilsonversus nurture here yeah okay which is fine we can dive into it but if you're talking about the nurture part you really don't have the upper hand in that conversation because where's all the female oil rig workers where's all the
01:27:39
Andrew Wilsonline workers hang on where's all the where are all the female Engineers who working in applied engineering they're they're nowhere when offered the choice in the egalitarian Nations like this one they still move towards the same
01:27:52
Andrew Wilsonoppressive jobs they had pre-enlightenment so there's still teachers right especially Preschool teachers they're still moving towards secretarial work they're still moving towards that interestingly enough that
01:28:04
Andrew Wilsonthat seems to actually give the case to me that wait there seem to be distinct differences that aren't just social because once there's no barrier to entry you're still doing the same [ __ ] you're
01:28:15
Lucy / Ruby / Rileydoing before the society changed radically in order to accommodate you I think that you can think that if you want to but I do believe that there is some sort of block you know like that you might say that there's no barrier to
01:28:27
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyfor woman to enter those kind of fields but there is well getting like I guess what would stop you from go working on an oil rig tomorrow well I mean I'm sure that some people do choose that if they want to live that kind of life where you're very like isolated from other
01:28:39
Andrew Wilsonpeople but I think that when you say that like women aren't Engineers I think that that's just kind of Applied I'm talking about applied app applied yeah so like when you when you're talking about engineering it's wide and it's encompassing I don't you're talking
01:28:51
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyabout applied I'm talking about you take your hand and you build [ __ ] mhm I do think that there are a lot of women who maybe would be interested in joining the construction like field in that sort of thing where applied engineering what's the barrier I think that the barrier is
01:29:04
Lucy / Ruby / Rileythat they they're they're kind of pushed out of those rules I think that like the government in are there for those rules no there's no government but it's like the people who own the businesses aren't going to hire a girl they're going to take one good look at me and think well you're not going to be useful to me are
01:29:16
Andrew Wilsonthey wrong I disagree I think that if you work hard at something you can be good at do you think that you're going to be as good as a man Roofing I I think so you think so well I mean if I if I learn how to do itad can we can we do this million hang on can we do this can
01:29:27
Lucy / Ruby / Rileywe do this then right here on whatever I'll put 1,000 bucks down come in tomorrow okay you can come in tomorrow right and we'll just have two little bird houses and we can roof them okay them we can Ro I'm going to watch a
01:29:40
Andrew WilsonYouTube tutorial I'm going to be so good wait I'm I can't know I know but but you're going to have to use actual shingles on these RS I I'll bring my gloves okay but you got to bring 1,000
01:29:50
Lucy / Ruby / Rileybucks oh I don't have wait oh waa wao I thought this was your thousand bucks I ,000 wait wait wait wait wait this should be the easiest thousand bucks you ever made you should just Bluff it yeah
01:30:02
Andrew Wilsonbut do you know anything about Roofing yes so then you're that's immediately unfair because you already have experience I thought you just got done telling me that if you went if I I thought you just said if you went and applied as a roofer that you would be just as useful as the people who were
01:30:15
Lucy / Ruby / Rileythere Roofing if I had interest in Roofing and if I had experience you don't have any interest in Roofing she could I'm just like you don't have any you don't have any
01:30:26
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyinterest in Roofing I I mean I am I am learning how to build houses right now literally in school so I would ideally have an interest you're well you're learning how to design houses in school no but you learn the construction of it all as well you're you're it's not just
01:30:39
Andrew Wilsonlike the aesthetic parts of it architectural engineering is a real thing I'm taking there's two okay so do are you looking for um when you're when you're talking about architecture you're looking for commercial or are you
01:30:51
Andrew Wilsonlooking for res I'm residential perfect there's only two colors of wire that go to a power you know those little sockets in the wall two colors that's electrical though what are they what are they what are the two colors I don't know I
01:31:04
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyhaven't gotten there yet dude I just started I just started I'm not going to act like I know everything about architecture I just started it's two colors it's two is it blue and red I'm just that's you you you have to
01:31:17
Lucy / Ruby / RileyI was going to say black and white but I have no idea I was going to say red and yellow right but I feel like like we were talking about Roofing one second ago now we're talking about electrical that's different you hire an electrical
01:31:28
Andrew Wilsonengineer to do but wait you said you're an architect I'm not not an architect yeah but you're studying it you said a part of that is studying construction big part of construction is knowing
01:31:38
Lucy / Ruby / Rileybasic electrical uh you leave space for the electrical work work to be done you have to know where it has to hook up no there isn't a constru some planet Earth not a construction work on planet Earth that does no basic electrical not one
01:31:51
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyprobably basic yeah absolutely I'm not that what I just said was basic I'm not going to be a construction worker I'm going to be an architect so that's slightly different yeah yeah so not a construction worker no
01:32:01
TTS Readeryeah did you get that where you wanted that to be metromat donated $200 than Metro men will continue clearly defining what they want and women will continue
01:32:11
Brian Atlasdisregarding it stop being SLS be a good person and take care of your man there is nothing more to it oh Metro Matt thank you for the big $200 TTS really appreciate it man and then we do have
01:32:23
Brian AtlasI'm loose I'm going to have you read this one from Lucas this is kind of like part two from his previous one thank you Metro mat appreciate it Lucas thank you for the $100 streamlabs
01:32:34
Lucy / Ruby / Rileymessage so yes double standards exist but I assure you that double standards go both ways for that matter the litmus test criteria for women are far more extensive see Dr bu/ Meson in why women
01:32:46
Brian Atlashave sex I haven't read that thank you Lucas for that appreciate the uh the message did you have more for Lucy goosey on the uh construction stuff I think I think she got it right just in the future you can always think of it as
01:33:00
Lucy / Ruby / Rileythe whites and blacks are always fighting in the Green State neutral o it would be helpful for you I'm serious that's how they think of it and the neutral you know that's going to come in handy when I get to that chapter I'm
01:33:09
Andrew Wilsongoing to be like wait a minute but in any case uh so the the idea here what all I'm saying to you is is that no you're not you're not in construction is the reason you're not in
01:33:21
Andrew Wilsonconstruction because there was some social barrier against it or is the reason you're not in construction because you you know you weigh like 100 lb and you ain't going to get up on a [ __ ] roof and shingle a roof because
01:33:33
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyou will literally die of a heat stroke in two hours Yeah well yeah I I feel like that's fair like me personally I'm not going to be doing that probably but when I like I am I think we talked about this last time a little I don't know if
01:33:44
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyou were present when we were talking about it but David was Brian why do I keep calling you David what's wrong with me there's something clinically wrong name was David too I'm not going to lie okay anyway but um one of the projects that me and my
01:33:57
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyfamily ideally are working on and part of the reason I'm doing drafting first things first instead of some of the other classes that are going to I'm going to have to take is because we bought property just Blank Slate of land and we're going to want to build something on it so when we do start
01:34:09
Lucy / Ruby / Rileydoing that we're probably not likely going to be hiring a lot of people to come in so I will have having but my point my point is when you're talking about nature versus nurture right the reason that we see even though there's
01:34:20
Andrew Wilsonno barrier to entry for these jobs for women why do you think they're still going for the secretarial work why do you think they're still going for the clerical work why you who think that that's the spot that they should be in
01:34:31
Andrew Wilsonwho's forcing them to do it Society how I don't know if it's forcing I don't think that's the right word to use then how Then I then I and then at that point it's preference and you're right like I don't I mean how how is society forcing
01:34:42
Brian Atlaswomen to do anything I don't think that any have technology social media Instagram Tik Tok and well hold on how about why don't you explain because you or unless you were joking you said it's
01:34:53
Lucy / Ruby / Rileymen like Andrew that are was it forcing women no no no no that that believe that there's certain spots and like places in society that women should be like
01:35:03
Andrew Wilsonteaching and secretaries so even even what an insane person I am on the front line fighting forces of the United States it should be men there killing our enemies and not women getting
01:35:14
Lucy / Ruby / Rileycaptured by you think that then you cannot use that as a like as a oh gotcha women aren't in the military so women can't do XYZ if you genuinely believe that men are the only ones that should be doing that why because if if you think that they're the only ones and you can't be like oh well women don't fight
01:35:27
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyin Wars because you don't want them to they they don't fight in them they're in support roles I just I just like that cannot be true well it is true I there's no there's so many women in the military
01:35:38
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyou're telling none of them are on the lines at all well so I mean men men need to have people cook food and I didn't know then what do you know so no women are not allowed in Frontline combat I did not know that's interesting do you know is that like a is that has that
01:35:51
Andrew Wilsonbeen a forever thing or is that like a no women actually feminists have been trying to be down the door to uh get rid of this policy right and as it turns out
01:36:02
Andrew Wilsonwomen don't want to go fight in Wars what a shock everybody is so shocked by the fact that women don't want to go pick up an M16 also don't to line that goes back to nature versus nurture
01:36:14
Lucy / Ruby / Rileythough is like I feel like there's more of I guess a natural instinct for men to have to take out their you know anger or whatever in something like violence whereas women wouldn't always go women
01:36:26
Andrew Wilsonlove violence as much as men do but it's they like psychological warfare man women are like we we're up here mind but isn't it interesting that if you could psychologically get a man to conduct violence on your behalf that is still
01:36:38
Andrew Wilsonsomething that women like to watch is the the the the exit of the violence well then why why conduct it to begin with exactly because you just got done say women do well I I I wasn't sure I
01:36:50
Andrew Wilsonjust I know that I've seen women in like military uniforms so I was just like well what yeah they're in support roles sure and uh but not in like hand on hand well they're not supposed to be there have been women who have been in combat
01:37:02
Andrew Wilsonright but it that wasn't supposed to be how it worked who said who's who said supposed to like you could be a helicopter pilot and a support roll who's a female pilot and crash land Behind Enemy Lines now you're in combat
01:37:13
Mizythat can happen but that's not the I can chingle roofs yeah that's not like get do construction are you being serious like you think women are fighting cuz they want to do construction like I
01:37:25
Mizydon't know I yeah I don't think I've met a single girl who's like physically wants to do any of those things it women just I mean I'd go a
01:37:35
Mizystep further and say can't yeah I me be struggling like for the same guy could do it I had to build a table right I was on this TV show called fish tank but they literally so I got punished one day
01:37:48
Mizyfor no reason I think the audience just wanted me to do it um every season someone has to build a table and when I tell you like I almost had a mental breakdown I had to sit by myself they gave me a saw and some nails and I'm
01:38:00
Mizylike I don't know what the [ __ ] to do like it's just and I don't want to do it like I don't think any any of those girls didn't want to do it the guy would have been like a sick I can build a you have to understand that that was because
01:38:10
Mizyof the social structures and the social the social engineering it was the social engineering from the evil patriar but but I'm saying women naturally aren't like cuz biologically they don't I don't
01:38:22
Mizythink biologically It's a combination I think of biological they don't have any interest in it like look you can reduce the thing is is like if we had if we were in the case where you couldn't go
01:38:34
Andrew Wilsonget a job at an oil rig right and there wouldn't be a million government incentives to make sure that you were on an oil rig as Rosie the Riveter with
01:38:45
Andrew Wilsonflexing that muscle you know what I mean pumping that oil and you could give that one shot at the camera and be like I did that it would be a feminist [ __ ] dream okay they would love it they would adore it it would be a massive photo op
01:38:58
Andrew Wilsonit would be great by the way they would love to have uh double the workforce cuz then they could have the wages okay if they had 50% more applicants who were women than men I like SL you're doing right now there's no slippery s that's
01:39:10
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyex okay what I what what's the fallacy the slippery slip you're like well if then if women go on the oil rigs then there's going to be Workforce and then the wage is going to go down it's slippery slope and I'll explain why okay
01:39:21
Andrew Wilsonplease okay so if you and and I are both qualified for the same job okay and we both go and we apply for that job the employer has more or less negotiating power than only if one of us apply for
01:39:33
Andrew Wilsonthat job sure does he have more or less more he has more negotiating power okay so but that's if any so then if you're an oil rig operator right and women are capable of doing this job just like men
01:39:46
Lucy / Ruby / Rileywhy wouldn't you want a ton of women to apply for this job even though it would give you way more negotiating power of a wages wait I you I I was I'm a little bit confused did you say between like if a m a male applicant and a female
01:39:58
Andrew Wilsonapplicant it wouldn't even matter if they're male or female or two femal or two males if two people apply for a job versus one does the employer have more or less negotiating power more more so
01:40:10
Andrew Wilsonthen that would mean that if you were the oil rig operator you if women could do that job you would actually want a ton of them to apply because then they have more negotiating power over the
01:40:20
Andrew Wilsonwages right I guess so then if that if that stands to reason how in the world why would oil rig operators be suppressing women away from oil rig work I just don't know if anybody really
01:40:32
Andrew Wilsondreams of working on an oil rig man or woman oh no no no no there's men who love that [ __ ] they live for it they're called rough necks they love nothing more than to go work on [ __ ] oil rigs
01:40:43
Andrew Wilsonall day long every day they can't wait they dream of that [ __ ] there's 16 years old and they're like I'm going to be on an oil rig when I'm 19 baby and I'm going to make that living Forest I'm not kidding because of their dad I want to
01:40:53
TTS Readerbuild a table I want to build a I want to build a table libertariat $200 architecture equals construction
01:41:05
TTS Readerknowing how to draw a map that balances loads is different from actually building something that's like saying a naval architect can weld a submarine is true I yeah sort of but I also feel like that's a completely different industry
01:41:19
Lucy / Ruby / Rileylike not a different industry sorry a different trade welding but ALS so the ideally ideally your architect knows how to build a house so it won't fall down so they have to have a pretty darn good understanding of can I ask you a
01:41:30
Mandyquestion actually can I ask everyone a question is that okay yeah mhm no okay how many people here can lift over 150 lbs what does that have to do with anything no it actually
01:41:41
Alicia Barbiedoes women do not like 150 lb like you know uh like one of those binge pressing does whatever like you can lift it up
01:41:52
Andrew Wilsonsomething many well how many people here can here here this is better how many people here can just lift more than 75 lb I for sure can really I have to my
01:42:03
Mandyjob I've picked up my boyfriend really yeah how how how much does he weigh okay 145 much no no no no he's more like 138
01:42:13
Andrew Wilsonand how much do you weigh 120 wait wait 115 120 wait wait wait hang on did you do the thing where you grab the midsection and then use your whole back to pull back with leverage I us my knees you pick them up with your knees I I
01:42:25
Andrew Wilsonlift you lift with your knees so you don't [ __ ] up your back yeah I get that but that doesn't that doesn't actually always increase your lift power that's fair that's fair enough okay um but my
01:42:36
Mizypoint was none of you can work construction then because you have to be able to lift a certain amount in order to can I add to your point cuz literally imagine this right you're any of you put yourself in this shoes you want to wake
01:42:49
Mizyup at 5: in the morning you want to go be outside in the sun all day long for 15 up to 15 16 hour days lifting things all day sweating
01:42:59
Mizyliterally you think that women naturally would ever naturally go to that cuz it's harder for us there might be one weightlifter girl who would be like yeah that's cool but she's not going to do that she's going to be these modern
01:43:12
Andrew WilsonBrads they can't hardly bring the iced tea to the workers without going it's so hot out here like you want to construction this yellow jacket so
01:43:23
Alicia Barbieugly you lift two things you like yeah I did that did you guys see that I lifted it I mean if you were raised by like a single father and like your father taught you how to do construction I'm sure it's about knowing how to do it we
01:43:37
Mizycan know how to do it and not be strong enough to do it and my point is not that it can't happen but we we can't physically be able to do the same things as a man where again it might take us 2 hours to
01:43:48
Alicia Barbiedo the same thing a guy can do exactly because of our physical abilities that doesn't mean that you there's not like people there's not women that have those physical there might be one just because
01:43:59
Mizyyou're incapable do I don't know one single girl I in my whole life I don't know one single girl who was like Daddy my dad does construction going on over here you are
01:44:10
Andrew Wilsonway way more capable than I think or you think you you are way more capable of doing these things than you actually are of doing these things really say says
01:44:20
Andrew Wilsonyou I can I have [ __ ] eyeballs you weigh 90 lb you're not getting on a roof and shingling it [ __ ] crazy like I have eyeballs reward you put your mind
01:44:31
Brian Atlasto it how about we do this look at me I did this czy so this is what we're going to do this is what look Lucy there look there's roofing companies in Santa Barbara I'm going to maybe they can reach out apply me I'm going to have you
01:44:42
Alicia Barbiedo a day with the roofing company we're going to film we're going to film it okay how much am I getting for the same day okay then you you have to challenge
01:44:51
Brian Atlasthem to learn how woman's what makes you can you lift 175 lbs Andrew yes no are there yeah any uh I can company any roofing company owners in Santa Barbara
01:45:03
Mizywho but I know but I'm not just talking about me I'm saying that there probably are women who do want to do it yeah where probably it's a very small demographic just like I've never heard of one woman here here it stands to
01:45:16
Andrew Wilsonreason if it was the case that women were as capable of doing these jobs as men are right you claim no it's a it's a social stigma from a business owner's perspective if they get way more
01:45:28
Andrew Wilsonleverage in negotiating if they have more applicants why the [ __ ] wouldn't they want women who are just as capable to apply for those jobs also sorry buters probably because of stereotypes like they oh they probably think what you think oh well this woman she's
01:45:41
Andrew Wilsonskinny she's might she might not be able to like live she might not be get they care about money I know but they don't want to pay that same person more if they think that they're going to take longer to do things by you applying they necessarily have the leverage to pay everybody less
01:45:55
Lucy / Ruby / Rileythey can necessarily pay every nothing could say to convince them so private chat yeah uh we have a message here from Lucas go ahead Lucy goosey read this please look at the Scandinavian countries the more they tried to
01:46:06
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyequalize stem professions through government policy the L larger the job Choice Chasm between men versus women by the way 97.2% of roofers in the US are
01:46:16
Lucy / Ruby / Rileymen so there we go that's not 100 that's not 100 that's not 100 wait wait wait wait a minute back up yeah how many of
01:46:25
Andrew Wilsonthem are um women who are applying who are classified as women who are male at Birth I had a friend who did that I had
01:46:35
Andrew Wilsona friend who [ __ ] did that so percent but we'll just grant for you we'll just grant for you that there's some women who can do some of these jobs nobody's disputing that and it was never in
01:46:47
Brian Atlasdispute nobody's disputing that there's not some women who can pull up the image pull up the image uh wait a minute I'm only getting 77% as many carrots as
01:46:59
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01:47:08
Lucy / Ruby / RileyLucy goosey go ahead read it Lucy the plural of woman is woman woman is woman please don't trigger Andrew I'm sorry if my accent isn't good enough for you he's
01:47:19
Brian Atlasvery sensitive also ESL is rough English is a second language is uh libertaria do appreciate it also sometimes what they'll do with these like construction
01:47:30
Brian Atlasstats is like the woman is the accountant for the construction company you're just assuming that no no we've I'm I'm saying in the stats that is the
01:47:40
Andrew Wilsoncas profal guys that is the case well I mean would you like to see the stats no I don't want to talk about this anymore oh like now now suddenly when you when they just
01:47:51
Lucy / Ruby / Rileydat going to roof this bird house tomorrow okay and then we'll talk and then I will concede if I need to like oh you want me to go dude what is your fing problem yeah that would be even better
01:48:02
Lucy / Ruby / Rileylet's just go do roofing for a day a little she's going Luc going to do Roofing I'm I'm going to put that was his idea why you guys making fun of me hello if Lucy should do Roofing then you
01:48:15
Andrew Wilsonshould be able to take care of like a baby for like days a man who's taking care of multiple babies is not going to be able take care of a baby oh well but like there's a lot of men out there that
01:48:26
Andrew Wilsondon't really raise children wait what they can't breath right say woman I think that you guys are just for one day for one day I'll have to take care of a baby instead of for my entire adult life
01:48:38
Alicia BarbieI know I mean try it just try it for a day
01:48:44
Alicia Barbiecan go home I have many children I have many children and were you there in their lives I'm having so much time were you participating with your why 50/50 like taking care of them changing the
01:48:55
Andrew Wilsondiapers taking them the school no no no first of all back up now when you say 50/50 when you're talking about the Health and Welfare of the kid no of course she has a different role than I
01:49:05
Andrew Wilsondo does that mean I can't take care of a baby of course not ridiculous so you you can't you can't take care of a baby I just said I can easy you can take care
01:49:15
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyof a baby okay and so Lucy can roof yeah let's find out how good Lucy does who said I can take care of a baby first of all let's backtrack do not leave a baby in my possession I'm not it's going to
01:49:27
Brian Atlascry I'm going to get it's not throw the trash can we have a first reaction to get to uh let's do the uh
01:49:35
Brian AtlasRussia versus USA video America versus one sec guys we're getting this pulled up thank you for uh was there
01:49:45
Brian Atlasanother one no we're good uh okay uh go ahead play it America versus Russia asking if they would provide for
01:49:53
Unknowntheir woman well just depends you know number one why would I but what is she doing while I'm
01:50:04
Unknownworking you know it it it's kind of like each relationship now is a
01:50:11
Unknown50/50 it's my wife then yes because I'm ultimately responsible for her if it's a wife it's about family and children and ideally she should dedicate
01:50:22
Brian Atlas100% of time to raising them well I mean I I would want it to be 50/50 that's the current situation I have basically if she doesn't feel like working if she doesn't feel like self-actualizing and
01:50:35
Unknownshe's comfortable being provided for then why not I can afford it um I would probably Inspire her to work just so I can see that there is some motive going in her future I'm happy with mine I live with
01:50:46
Brian Atlasmy girlfriend and I provide for her she has to carry out other things and the man always provides for her okay um so your guys is so that's compar
01:50:57
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyou know the Russian men versus the USA men your reaction go ahead I mean like I mean it's different societies the Russia versus the US is completely different yeah do you think
01:51:10
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyuh American men should be more like Russian men well I think it's just different I think there's a lot women have a lot more um I guess like I want to say freedoms I feel like to do things that they're passionate about but it's
01:51:22
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyinteresting because I feel like there's a weird like there's a standard for women here but at the same time there's like those same guys are saying well it should be 50/50 but they also probably expect that woman to like cook clean
01:51:33
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyraise kids but I don't know I feel like in Russia it's just different the the woman over there they don't they're not like probably going to have the same opinion as me where they want to be in that role like it was kind of like how we were talking about last time I was
01:51:46
Lucy / Ruby / Rileylike hey man if you want to be a traditional wife that is so your prerogative but I don't want to do that so I guess in the US it's just different there's a little bit more opportunity to not follow a traditional rule sure what
01:51:57
Mizyabout you your reaction um I feel like it's kind of disappointing cuz like I have dated guys that expect you to do
01:52:05
Mizyeverything uh and and work I've had to cook clean and work uh while also expected to be in a good mood 24/7 um and so it's disappointing