1 SHOW LEFT?! Andrew Wilson IRL vs. SUPER FEMINISTS! She Did 1 Guy PER DAY?! | Dating Talk #221

Date: 2024-12-16
Duration: 10h 06m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donation(audience)
SPEAKER_02Mandy(guest)
SPEAKER_03Kenna(guest)
SPEAKER_04Mizy(guest)
SPEAKER_05Lucy / Ruby / Riley(guest)
SPEAKER_06Alicia Barbie(guest)
SPEAKER_07TTS/Other(audience)
SPEAKER_08TTS/Other(audience)
SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_11Naomi(guest)
SPEAKER_12TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_13Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_14Mandy (alt)(guest)

Key Moments

00:08:17
IntroFull panel introductions: Lucy (21, LA, waitress), Mizy (29, Hollywood, streamer/Fish Tank), Ruby (20, Nashville, car dealership), Mandy (20, N.CA, unemployed), Kenna (19, Nashville, OnlyFans), Alicia Barbie (23, Chicago, social media), Naomi (18, SD, OF/vet school), Riley (18, SD, OF/psychology), Andrew Wilson (The Crucible host), Brian Atlas (35, Whatever host).

hi my name is Lucy I'm 21 um I'm from LA and I work as a waitress

00:21:11
QuoteMandy reveals she has a bisexual boyfriend she met on Grindr and that she pegs him. Andrew's reaction is comedic disbelief.

so you went to grinder to try to pick up gay guys I was in a dark place okay Andrew

00:58:02
ControversyAlicia argues that men with high body counts who prefer low body count women are hypocrites. Andrew systematically dismantles the hypocrisy argument, explaining it is a preference not a moral condemnation. Heated back-and-forth.

do you guys think that that's uh problematic for high body count man to be like I only want to date a virgin

01:29:27
Key MomentBrian bets $1,000 that he can beat Lucy at roofing two birdhouses tomorrow, challenging her claim that women face barriers in construction. Lucy accepts with conditions.

if we're talking about like body count... I'll put 1,000 bucks down come in tomorrow

02:42:23
RelationshipSelf-ratings round: Lucy 7, Mizy 7.5, Ruby 4-5, Mandy 8, Alicia 8-9, Naomi 9, Riley 10/6 (day-dependent), Andrew 10, Brian 5.

ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10

04:26:21
ControversyMandy tearfully reveals her teenage sex addiction: she contracted stage-2 syphilis at ~17 and unknowingly gave it to her current boyfriend. Very emotional moment; Lucy and Mandy both cry. Andrew makes dark quip about the strap-on.

I I and I just [bleep] up my body I'm sorry it's okay

04:32:42
QuoteLucy empathetically supports Mandy after syphilis revelation: 'you can be vulnerable about it on this with all these people you don't know... this is something that people don't talk about but probably a lot of people go through.'

you're being vulnerable and that's super hard and like scary thank you thank you for sharing

05:06:19
ControversyKenna's pre-show notes reveal she was on every dating app at age 17, sleeping with a different guy roughly every other day for about a month. Brian reads the notes aloud; Kenna confirms and gives details.

no crazy stories other than when you were 17 you were on every dating app imaginable you were getting a different guy every day for about a month

05:08:57
QuoteKenna reveals her total body count is 19, with 15 of those coming in a single month at age 17.

my body counts only 19 so like after that like little phase I'm just like now I'm dating to Mary it's over

05:46:53
Key MomentFull body count round: Alicia 32, Lucy ~25, Mizy did not disclose (7.5 mentioned in context of rating), Ruby 10-12, Mandy ~40, Kenna 19, Naomi ~50, Riley 5, Andrew claims 1 (crowd skeptical), Brian ~5.

some of you already actually stated your body counts but why we just uh starting with you

06:29:39
ControversyAndrew introduces 'faking virtue' concept: women who ordinarily would sleep with a guy quickly but make a different guy wait because they believe he values chastity — tailoring apparent virtue to what the man wants.

I call this phenomenon faking virtue

07:48:58
ControversyAndrew debates whether trans people are obligated to disclose their status before sex. Uses progressively more extreme hypotheticals (mask analogy). Panel and Brian discuss risks of heterosexual men being labeled bigots for not wanting to sleep with trans women.

all I'm asking is that men who generally try to proposition women for sex get rejected

09:00:11
ControversyAlicia and Andrew clash over race and Black history. Alicia struggles to name continents, confuses Cape Cod with Cape Town. Andrew discusses South African land reform and Black-on-Black crime comparisons. The exchange becomes heated before Brian moves on.

are they are they making their mothers their they killed them get together

09:22:49
OtherDonors pay guests to remove makeup and wigs. Most guests comply — transformation is notable (Kenna especially). Alicia initially refuses citing Barbie identity, eventually removes her wig. Chat roasts guests with makeup-related donations.

Makenna do it no excuses play Like A Champion my eyebrows

10:03:17
QuoteBrian announces Tuesday's final show of 2024: Andrew Wilson vs. a mystery guest. Teases it's 'going to be big.'

we will be live again Tuesday at 5:00 PM Pacific for our final show final show of the Year Andrew will be there we have a big guest

Topics Discussed

00:05:38
Guest Introductions & Champagne Pop

Brian introduces the panel; each guest gives name, age, location, occupation. Yellow Banana donor sends champagne pop for Andrew Wilson. Relationship statuses discussed round-table.

00:20:30
Relationship History & Unusual Dynamics

Mandy reveals she has a bisexual/gay boyfriend met on Grindr and pegs him. Kenna discusses recent breakup. Alicia admits to cheating in all relationships despite being married. Father relationship round discussed.

00:58:00
Body Count Hypocrisy Debate

Andrew and Brian debate whether men with high body counts who prefer low-count women are hypocrites. Alicia argues it's hypocritical; Andrew argues preferences are not the same as moral condemnation. Height vs body count comparison. Alicia reveals body count of 32.

01:20:00
Women in Male-Dominated Fields / Gender Roles Debate

Discussion about women working in construction, applied engineering, oil rigs. Brian challenges guest to a roofing competition for $1,000. Nature vs nurture in career choices. Andrew debates with Lucy and others about women's choices vs. societal barriers.

02:42:23
Self-Ratings Round

Guests rate themselves on a scale of 1-10: Lucy 7, Mizy 7.5, Ruby 4-5, Mandy 8, Alicia 8-9, Naomi 9, Riley 10/6 (varies by day). Andrew rates himself 10. Brian rates himself 5.

02:47:00
Will You Be Better Looking in 10/20/99 Years?

Brian asks if each guest will be better looking in 10 and 20 years. Alicia controversially claims she'll be hotter at 99, leading to extended philosophical debate. Andrew uses empty beer cup as analogy for the soul/body question.

04:26:21
Mandy's Syphilis Story

Brian asks Mandy about her sex addiction as a teenager. She reveals she contracted stage-2 syphilis at ~17 from a party guy she suspects was bisexual. Her current boyfriend noticed red spots on her back and made her go to the doctor. Both were treated with large injections. Very emotional segment.

05:04:53
Kenna's OnlyFans & Sex Addiction Discussion

Kenna's pre-show notes read aloud: calls herself emotionally unstable nymphomaniac. Had a 'ho phase' at 17 — sleeping with ~10-15 men in a month (every other day off dating apps). Total body count 19. Her friend Ruby discusses whether to start OnlyFans. Mizy ends up crying about pressure.

05:46:53
Body Count Round Table

Full panel body counts: Alicia 32, Lucy ~25 (stopped counting), Mizy 7.5 (self-rating shown here was a different number), Ruby 10-12, Mandy ~40 (uncertain), Kenna 19, Naomi ~50 (lost V at 13-14), Riley 5, Andrew 1 (disputed/joked). Naomi started OF on 18th birthday.

06:13:00
Dating Standards & Faking Virtue

Andrew introduces concept of 'faking virtue' — women who would sleep with a guy immediately but make another wait because they think he prefers virtuous women. Lucy debates this. Panel discusses men who lie about wanting relationships to get sex. Brian gives reverse example.

07:48:58
Trans Disclosure Debate

Andrew debates whether trans people are obligated to disclose before sex. Uses mask analogy/hypothetical. Panel mostly agrees disclosure should be required. Brian discusses risks of being labeled bigot for heterosexual preferences.

08:55:00
Race & Africa Discussion

Alicia and Andrew get into heated exchange about Black history and racism. Alicia struggles to name continents and African countries (confuses Cape Cod with Cape Town). Andrew discusses South African white farmers. Chat reacts with TTS messages about crime statistics.

09:13:40
Feminist Debate / Women's Equal Rights

Brian reads pre-show survey results: do women have equal rights to men in the US? Mixed answers — Lucy: maybe; Mizy: yes; Ruby: yes; Mandy: no; Kenna: yes; Alicia: no; Naomi: no; Riley: no. Andrew argues women do have equal rights. Alicia cites abortion; Andrew: men can't have abortions either.

09:22:49
Makeup Removal & Wig Reveal

Donors pay guests to remove makeup. Most guests take off makeup and look notably younger. Alicia refuses initially (claims Barbie identity), eventually takes off wig revealing natural hair. Lucy also takes off lashes. Chat reacts that makeup was 'doing heavy lifting.' Kenna's transformation is dramatic.

10:00:05
Whether to Quit OnlyFans

Brian asks the younger girls if they'll quit OnlyFans. Kenna says when she's old. Naomi says after she graduates vet school. Riley says same. Brian expresses concern about the path they're on.

Transcript

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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyrefrigerator okay uh name age location occupation starting with you hi my name is Lucy I'm 21 um I'm from LA and I work as a waitress
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Mizyall right uh any school uh yeah I go to the city college studying what architecture and interior design all right what about you I'm mzy I'm 29 I
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Mizyjust started streaming cuz I got off of a reality show and I live in Hollywood California you were on Shark Tank right fish tank fish tank sorry not shark tank
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Mizyfish tank that's the same H show yeah I feel like I'm at home with a TTS right now yeah any school uh I went to school for criminal justice I a bachelor's in
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileythat Bachelor's in criminal justice yeah okay got it what about you hello I'm Ruby I'm 20 and I work at a local car
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileydealership and I'm from Tennessee all right 20 uh School uh
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyno I I I graduated um to almost 3 years ago from high school yes okay and uh
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Mandythree year AG you you live in Tennessee yes okay Nashville yeah got it all right Mandy um well I'm Mandy I'm 20 I live in Northern California and I'm currently
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Brian Atlasunemployed this is my job right now so age sorry I missed that 20 20 school um I'm not in school right now any college
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Kennano okay all right what about you hi my name is Kenna and I'm 19 I do of and and I dropped out of college last year sorry
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Brian Atlasyour name is Ken you said Kenna Kenna okay uh and what's the nature of the content that you do on only fins I like sell my nudes is it like boy girl solo
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Brian Atlascontent yeah yeah like both all right gotcha any college completed no no do you want to go to college no no okay do you do off2 or no I don't you guys are
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Kennafriends though correct we are how do you guys what's your question I'm trying to like recruit her to do off with me but she like just does not like want to
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Brian Atlasthat's a conversation stoper get some help all right and uh you're are you in Tennessee too or yeah I'm in Nashville
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Alicia Barbiewith her got it okay what about you I'm Al Barbie oh my gosh sorry I am 23 I'm from Chicago um and my occupation
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Alicia Barbieis I'm like a social media manager and activities Aid and I am a College Dropout so don't ask me my degree you got Associates or just
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Alicia Barbiedropped out before I dropped out in like 2020 during Co I couldn't do college for Co it was too much sorry okay
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Alicia Barbieyep um my name is Naomi I'm 18 I do only fans and I go to veterinarian school where you from uh San Diego San Diego okay and you're uh how long have you
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Brian Atlasbeen 18 since February when did you start doing only fans since February
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Brian Atlasso so birthday on my birthday I made it you made it yikes uh or well yeah and uh okay uh what's the nature of the content
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileythat you do on only fans everything boy girl yeah okay girl girl girl girl girl all right what about you hi my name is
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileymy name is Riley um wait what was the question uh name age occupation location okay my name is Riley I'm 18 I do solo
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyon o and I go to San Diego City College um and I'm majoring in Psychology and you're from San Diego yeah okay got it all right what about you yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The
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Andrew WilsonCrucible popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm political analyst political saturnist I enjoy having conversations like this all over the world uh it's a lot of fun to do so I'm glad all of you are here if we can have this uh this conversation tonight also
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Brian Atlashas been YouTuber uh Santa location Santa Barbara California going around the table once more what is everybody's current relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and what's the
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Brian Atlaslongest relationship you've ever been in go ahead I'm currently single and the longest relationship I had was like8 months and you were uh on the show about a month two two months ago uh were you
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Brian Atlasin a relationship then or single then no I was single then okay and you said longest relationship eight months yeah how long you been single for a year one year pretty much yeah a year and a month
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileythe 8mon relationship is that the one that ended a year ago no that was one prior okay uh the eight-month relationship who broke up with who we went over this I feel like we went over
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileythis already okay for new um I was broken up with okay yeah and then most recent relationship who broke up with who um I did the breaking up but it was
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Mizytime okay yeah what about you I'm single my longest relationship is 5 years and
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Brian Atlasmy last relationship was in May so about like 6 months ago seven months ago yeah okay the 5year relationship was that the
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Brian Atlasone that ended 7 months ago no that was like ended a long time ago okay uh most recent relationship who broke up with who I broke up with him 5year relationship who broke up with who I
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Mizybroke up with him okay why um he deserved better I think at that time like I didn't know who I was I was very young and I realized that he
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Mizydeserved someone that loved him for truly for who he was and I just knew that wasn't me and I also deserved to be with someone who you know reciprocated
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Brian Atlasthat as well okay uh and then also really quick just on the champagne here do you want champagne yeah champagne yes champagne yes all right gosh yellow
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileybanana that gets me talking what about you um my longest relationship was maybe
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyhalf a year this was in fifth grade and then and then my last relationship was um the end of my senior year for less
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileythan a month did they break up with you because of the years was it because of the ears yes it was he yeah he would be like and I'd be
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Lucy / Ruby / Riley[Laughter] like no it was just a silly little high school thing and we were I was graduating so so wait your last serious
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyrelationship was in fifth grade well that was like I've had two serious quote unquote relationships where it's been official
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyand it was fifth grade and then the end of my high school year okay um so you've been single for how
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileylong um I guess that'd be like 3 years three years you said yeah since I graduated longest longest relationship
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Brian Atlasmy longest was my six month one in fifth grade I see okay uh so you've been single for three years since you were you're 20 now since you 18 17 yeah I think there's been there's no
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyguys in the picture whatsoever um I've had like a lot of of talking on friends with benefits but never anything
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Brian Atlasofficial okay uh is there currently a guy in the picture yeah I'm talking to this guy how long have you been talking to this
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyguy wait which guy this guy yeah we we've been talking since um the
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileybeginning of October so like two months yeah two months okay uh are you guys exclusive um we haven't really talked
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyabout that but I assume we are I've stayed like you're exclusive then I think he is too I don't really
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyexactly know to be honest but I'm okay either way I'm not really super like judgy or anything cuz we haven't put a title so I'm not going to expect
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyanything do you want a title um maybe in the future I think about it so you're not that into him then I'm I'm not really wanting to
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileysettle down until I'm like 30 I don't date to Mary you date for what then for fun and experience however life is whatever comes my whatever comes my way
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileywhatever comes my [Music] way whatever comes my way I just sort of deal with it I used to move around a lot and so um I never felt like I could have
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileylike a stable relationship with that is your dad in the military or no he he actually lives in New York and
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Brian Atlasand then my mom lives in Kentucky so you said uh you don't you don't want to settle down until you're 30 yeah okay so are you polyamorous or um you like dating or sleeping with multiple people
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Brian Atlasat the same time sure yeah I have fun with that yeah so how are you seeing uh other men besides this guy no okay just him have you had
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Brian Atlasperiods though where you've had a roster or dating multiple
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileymen I guess so really nothing was ever like too serious whenever it was going on and I always established from the get-go my expectations and like I'm not
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyreally expecting like full-blown relationship this is how like I view dating okay what were your expectations um just to hang out and have
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyfun okay so you'll straight up tell them that you're not looking for anything serious yeah cuz I feel like it's really important to do that I've talked with
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileymen before and met up and they are really expecting something super serious or they got out of a serious
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyrelationship and so I'm always like oh like what's the sort of context around this to see how it would work out and
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileywith me having my own views on wanting to settle more in my 30s I always let them know that okay before we get into
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Brian Atlasthe next person we do have to do a cheers uh this is for uh cheers to yellow banana or in this case slightly Browning banana uh cheers to
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Brian Atlasyeah cheers she oh you have to finish the banana that's I have to finish it well you're going to Cheers the banana you have to Cheers the banana I'll take a bite of the b one
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyb that's good promotion uh Salo sal sal Che I just spoke the mic I'm sorry guys
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Mandyit's all good thank you uh yellow banana do appreciate it your relationship status um I currently have a boyfriend uh we've been together 2 years
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Mandyand like 5 months I want to say 6 months or four months 2 years four months that's my longest relationship all right longest
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Mandyrelationship how did you guys meet uh we went over this on the last podcast I met him on grinder yeah so
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Mandyjust grinder uh you met him on grinder yes okay um isn't that for gay dudes
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Mandyit's for gay dudes okay then how did you meet him on [Music] grinder I was banned from the other dating
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Mandyhouse watch so you went to grinder to try to pick up gay guys I was in a dark place okay Andrew
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Mandylike excuse me uh that's wild so he's gay he's bot
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Mandybut he was definitely on there for men
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Brian Atlaswait do you um uh do you do butt stuff with him yes but like to him yes oh
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Mandyspicy [Laughter] watch does he pref he prefers it or is he a bottom kind of kind of a little bit so you top him he's like he's like verse
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Brian Atlasbut like yeah sometimes I do oh he's what he's switch verse yeah like a switch Yeah verse yeah it it's like a it's the same thing as a switch okay so
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Brian Atlasum tell me when to stop on how big the strap on so you Peg your wait wait so you Peg you Peg your gay boyfriend
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Mandyyeah and she looks like she has a great time doing it too do I look unhappy now no you're
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Mandythriving facts slay Queen um that's cool so you guys what um what was your who messaged to First on on grinder so this
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Mandyis actually a funny story because he messaged me first but there's like this thing called a super like and he super liked me but he told me later that that was an accident and he thought that I was a
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Mandycatfish and so I messaged him back and he asked me for a picture of myself so I sent him like a live photo of myself and he realized that I was like a real
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Mandyperson so we met up and um for like you know we were kind of just friends for a while it was like gay besties kind of Vibes and then like as it progressed
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Mandylike we like we just like into each other and just kind of worked out so a uh does he sleep with other men
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Brian Atlasnow no no you guys are monogamous yeah well sometimes I sleep with girls in like as a threesome or separately from
00:23:28
Mandyum separately okay so it's one one ended open yes I know how that sounds but you only sleep with like you
00:23:39
Brian Atlasdon't sleep with other men no only just other women yeah and you've been with him for two and a half years yeah how many women have you smashed in that period two or three two or three you had
00:23:50
Mandysomething is he allowed to to have sex with other women no no so just you like a dog told I told him if he wasn't okay with me doing that that that was fine
00:24:02
Mandywith me and that like we didn't have to do any of that stuff but he was like no like go have fun like do whatever and I'm like okay I mean would you like let him [ __ ] another man to be honest I mean
00:24:14
Mandyto be fair and charitable to you she actually had a good question she asked if I would let him have sex with other men and this is where it's kind of conflicting for me because I've
00:24:24
Mandyconsidered like I want to be able to like let him do that because like obviously like I don't think that he would like you know go off and you know
00:24:34
Mandylive somewhere else with him but I don't know I think that I don't know I I I get mixed up about it because I have like bad feelings about it I shouldn't have
00:24:44
Andrew Wilsonbad feelings about it cuz it's just sex but I don't know I mean to be charitable to your position though like I wouldn't have high standards for dude who got pegged with a 7in dto right like it's
00:24:57
Mandynot like going to be high standards here yeah yeah Fair yeah how did you get banned from all the other dating apps that's crazy good question okay listen I shouldn't I that that's something for another time we'll talk
00:25:10
Brian Atlasabout that off camera I were you going on them underage yes that's what I figured um yeah definitely but I didn't meet him
00:25:21
Mandywhen I was underage so yeah wait did he think you were like gay like a man or something he told me that he thought I was either a catfish or like trans or
00:25:32
Mandysomething and so he was like not sure so he wanted to meet up with me to like see what the situation was I guess was he like so he he going in he was like this
00:25:42
Brian Atlasperson could have a penis or a vagina yeah okay nice nice can I ask was he
00:25:51
Brian Atlaslike question when the first time you guys hooked up did he sigh when the there wasn't a penis was there a sigh I
00:26:02
Andrew Wilsoncan't say that there was was he disappointed [Laughter] probably uh I don't know where you go
00:26:13
Andrew Wilsonfrom thereo I don't know where you go I think we end the show hey guys it was a good show good
00:26:20
Alicia Barbienight how would you rate the the pegging like does he enjoy it as much oh he he yeah I mean okay spot is in the in the Booty
00:26:34
Brian AtlasHole uh good Lord there's so much degeneracy on this panel right now so bad just for you Andrew I cated you guys invited me
00:26:45
Brian Atlasback this is your fault but so um that that wasn't would that wasn't upsetting though isn't that a little upsetting that like he it sounds like you said he was disappointed that you had a vagina
00:26:58
Mandywould that I feel like that'd be kind of disappointing well I mean I don't know if it was diso he was just like a like that yeah well yeah cuz he's like he's like maybe there's a surprise under there and he's like [ __ ] nothing you
00:27:10
Brian Atlasknow so I mean I don't know I don't I can't I wasn't in his mind at the time I don't know so all right well I mean it worked out fine it may though despite all this aside from you Andrew this she
00:27:22
Brian Atlasmay very well be the woman with the longest standing relationship on the panel so actually well we'll see uh relationship status wait how long were
00:27:32
Brian Atlashave you been with him two and a half and uh what about you oh I'm like recently single mhm uh for how long uh like a month probably longest
00:27:44
Brian Atlasrelationship oh was like a year it's like this past one wait is that the one that ended a month ago yeah okay and uh you've been single for a month have you
00:27:54
Kennabeen celibate for a month no no I'm I'm still getting with him well cuz like he's my partner so like I can't really not you know your partner
00:28:04
Andrew Wilsonhow he's my only fans partner so he's the guy you do content with yeah you don't do content with other guys no well like until I find someone else he's the guy so even if you were hooking up with
00:28:17
Kennathis guy through only fans for the content what would actually prevent you from going out and getting another guy well like I'm heartbroken right now like we just broke up a month ago so Sor are you still are you still hooking
00:28:30
Kennaup with him outside of the off content no like he just comes over like for strictly content like we don't hang out or anything put him to work do you think he
00:28:42
Kennaever like has like feelings like maybe no no no he he's like really mean to me you can ask her that's re nice at the same time cuz he like still comes over
00:28:52
Kennato help me so it's like I don't know you know it's an ongoing Dynamic that could have ended like so long ago but he like helps me make money so it's okay and I
00:29:04
Kennaoffer to pay him he's my age well he's 20 20 okay do you split the money with him no so he
00:29:13
Kennajust so he works for yeah I mean I feel like that's a good enough award she she would get him gifts yeah huh okay uh so
00:29:25
Brian Atlasthat's your longest relationship it ended you guys living together yeah still living together no no so this is kind like how do you move
00:29:37
Kennaon well I'm like planning to move probably to like a new state so like then I'll just find someone and then I'll have like yeah it' be great all right uh okay you find someone else to
00:29:50
Andrew Wilsongive you rewards why yeah why did you guys break up I I'm not sure honestly like well who broke up with who oh he broke up with me why for what I like I
00:30:01
Kennadon't really know how it happened like we were going like for a drive and then we got back to my house and like I wanted him to talk to me and he didn't talk to me so like I wouldn't let him
00:30:11
Kennalike in my apartment so like he broke into my apartment so then he like broke my side mirror off my car I thought you guys were living together though we were but like it's my apartment like I paid
00:30:23
Kennafor so you were living together but he broke in yes to the place he lives it wasn't his place so well it was like my place he like lived with me that's the thing did he have his own place I mean
00:30:34
Kennahe had his mom's place I guess but he was how long had he been living with you like for a few months so he definitely lived there yeah he was a tenant no he wasn't cuz I was the only one on the
00:30:44
Andrew Wilsonleas he wasn't on the Le okay well ask can I ask you a question when he broke in did he later tell you I didn't break in cuz I live here did he say that did those words ever come out of his mouth
00:30:56
Kennano he didn't say anything he was just really mad oh yeah technically he was a tenant he was not a tenant he was definitely a tenant he was not
00:31:06
Kennaa knew he was not a tenant we're not in California if he lives there he's technically a tenant yeah you have to give him a 30-day notice G guys like it's it's complicated
00:31:17
Andrew WilsonI promise you he was not like I'm technically not even on it what yeah but you're right no I mean it's comp how's it your apartment okay you guys cuz like I you're not a tenant in your apartment
00:31:29
Andrew Wilsonthat your that he broke into even though it was yours yeah so like I like I just kind of live I'm like I live there for free because I'm not like squatting
00:31:40
Kennathere like cuz like is there a lease yeah but just like not through me like I'm like in foster care so like the state pays for it so he was like staying with me so like that's not his place
00:31:52
Andrew Wilsonthat's why I was like you broke you foster care or you're 18 yeah but like you can like Rec you're 20 you're no you're 19 right yeah 19 and you're in you're still getting paid for by the Foster system they're not they're not
00:32:03
Kennapaying for anything really they're just like except your place giving me a yeah they're giving me a helping hand for all the trauma I've been through like my whole life this was like my reward and the state knows that you do o work I
00:32:16
Kennamean like they know how much money I have I tell them but they don't know that you do o work no I do you put on your taxes I say content creator like own business well I haven't like done
00:32:28
Brian Atlastaxes yet wait okay a couple questions to clarify thank you um you were you so wait so my tax dollars wait what what well you were living at this house for
00:32:40
Brian Atlashow long You' been living at the house wait um like since the summer like after the summer I guess like AUST cuz I could see some sort of situation where you were in foster care and there's some
00:32:53
Brian Atlaslike you're remaining at the place of residence from the point of like 17 18 and you're remaining there and perhaps it extends beyond the age of 18 but that's kind of it's like the state I guess like kind of thing like I guess
00:33:04
Andrew Wilsonit's different from state to cut off for uh well I when I turned 21 that's when I'm like when you free yeah okay you said because of your trauma so is this
00:33:14
Andrew Wilsonlike some sort of SSI type thing what's that like some type of no nothing like that nothing nothing like that no I know exactly how you where you are and so
00:33:25
Brian Atlasyeah uh wait so uh I have idea how this works how does this work so okay you're in foster care uh so are you like were you orphaned or what's so like my
00:33:36
Kennaparents like I ran away from my parents and like that happened so they put me in a foster house like with my foster parents and they're great like I love them so much and like you can like recommit to the state and they'll like
00:33:49
Alicia Barbiehelp you out they'll like give you money every month they give you a place to stay what does recommit to the state mean like I don't know if you can't like afford your own like living they'll help you they'll reinstate you as like
00:34:02
Kennathey're they'll also pay for your college too yeah wait so at what age did you run away from your parents house like 16 why oh cuz they were like not good
00:34:13
Kennaparents like we just like didn't go like you know when you was there like abuse or they just told you no oh well like my like brother used to like molest me so
00:34:24
Kennalike yeah there was that but your par parents themselves no they didn't do anything but that was you just didn't like them me and my mom like clashed like you
00:34:36
Kennaknow you know like two people just like don't aren't good together that was me and my mom like and me and my ex and they let you go into foster care your parents yeah they didn't like me either
00:34:46
Kennalike they were toxic too okay wait your parents didn't like you no I mean my dad liked me okay this is but my mom you know like the moms are
00:34:58
Kennaalways like the the head of the household so my mom was like wait what break what oh well my mom was at least that's the problem when you say like it was both
00:35:10
Kennayour biological parents right no no no I'm adopted okay so they aded me when you you were adopted at a young age yeah I was adopted when I was like a baby by by
00:35:21
Brian Atlasthese parents and then I ran away from those parents I see okay um where you were d Ed from China China okay uh okay have you you're not in touch I'm
00:35:34
Brian Atlasassuming with your biological parents there's no way yeah um and then okay so your adopted parents ran away from them and then you had Foster a different
00:35:46
Brian Atlasset of foster parents is that correct or well you had your adoptive parents and then you have your foster parents yeah but I you like your foster parents is that correct okay but and you live that
00:35:57
Brian Atlaswith with them for 2 years yeah but now you're on your own yeah but I still go back for like holidays and everything so I okay all right uh with your with your
00:36:09
Andrew Wilsonbiological parents no my foster parents with your foster parents you don't talk to your I'm sorry you're adopted parents you don't talk to I don't talk to them
00:36:16
Alicia Barbieno okay what about you oh um so I am married um I have been with my partner for two years uh I think a little under
00:36:27
Alicia Barbiethan you 2 years and 4 months we celebrated um what else what was other questions well congratulations oh thank you so longest relationship so this is my second relationship and this is my
00:36:38
Alicia Barbielongest relationship all right okay wait can we see the ring oh my God guys I have to get it resized like I'm I'm wearing like my other oh the band yeah yeah I'm wearing the band and I put it
00:36:51
Alicia Barbiehere cuz it's too big so I have to get it resized unfortunately I have small hands not small hands okay still cute though what about you um technically
00:37:01
Alicia Barbiesingle um what is technically like I date everybody so like not everybody but you know like you have you know like how many guys do you have in the picture
00:37:12
Brian Atlasright now four okay you're sleeping with all of them yeah okay uh and you've been technically single for how long
00:37:22
Alicia Barbie[Music] um since I was like in middle school I guess like so you never had a boyfriend no I have I have I just like I don't say
00:37:33
Alicia Barbiethey're real like relationships because I always cheat you know so it's like I don't really like they're not committed I'm not a committed person I don't know this
00:37:44
Alicia Barbielooks really bad um I'm just not a committed person and I don't really take relationships seriously you know I have a question as someone who also doesn't
00:37:56
Lucy / Ruby / Rileytake relationships seriously but like talked about establishing that with them like do you communicate that or okay
00:38:05
Alicia Barbieyeah I could I like say that I I cheated most of them like you know cry or some of them stay it just but you say that
00:38:15
TTS Readeronly after huh meet the kaisa donated $200 Brian cheers to a good show tonight the delay always happy to see you glad
00:38:25
TTS Readerto see my girl Lucy back on the show Che a lesbian that talks nonstop or as I call them a chatter box she isun guys bisexual I'm pretty sure right yeah not
00:38:37
Lucy / Ruby / Rileya lesbian yeah but I am a chatter box not today though yeah I'm B we'll see and they haven't got me drunk yet um what was your question what was
00:38:49
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyour question for but do only tell them after cuz the way you're talking about this you sound like you don't establish it from the get go but then later cheat and then say I cheated and then they
00:39:00
Alicia Barbielike cry and then they're heartbroken or they're like whatever but my thing is is like if you don't ask me to be your girlfriend you know like then we're not
00:39:10
Alicia Barbietogether you know so like I will tell them like I am sleeping around like you know I'm with other people but sometimes like they don't take it like take me seriously because like I'll hang out
00:39:21
Alicia Barbiewith them like you know like more like every day and like stuff like that like go stay at their house and stuff like that but then like when it comes down to like when I'm not with them like I go do other things and then that's why they
00:39:34
Alicia Barbieget like sad and stuff but I always tell them like you didn't ask me to be your girlfriend it wasn't established so therefore you know I can do whatever I
00:39:42
Brian Atlaswant you know right that all right uh you're I mean you longest relationship
00:39:52
Alicia Barbieum like six months months okay all right did you cheat on that one too yeah after
00:40:02
Brian Atlas6 months though what's the longest uh um or what what's the biggest your roster has ever been um at one time I did have like
00:40:14
Alicia Barbieeight people that I was talking to but it was so tragic like never in my life would I do that again that sounds like a lot of work it was so much work it was so much work it sounds like a full-time
00:40:24
Alicia Barbiejob really I mean poor you and like it was like three of them were my sugar daddies so it was like really annoying too because you know they have they like attention it was annoying they were
00:40:35
Alicia Barbiegiving you money they need attention so bad wait you were you were 18 at this time yeah uh and those needy [ __ ]
00:40:44
Alicia Barbiejust wait so eight wanting love and attentiona the B right now you were sleeping with all eight of them no only the sugar daddies it was like which was
00:40:56
Alicia Barbiethere was three of those is more so like think oh no actually I was sleeping with like two of two other ones too so the three sugar daddies and then two other
00:41:06
Alicia Barbieguys so five five yeah girl are you okay please get checked I do guys I just had one on Wednesday yeah what was the results guys
00:41:18
MizyI'm clean hey and they know you're active with like other people okay with it yeah and I constantly get tested like every two weeks oh like wait are you in
00:41:28
Andrew Wilsonlike the traditional uh corn industry no no no okay but if you have these guys who were quote sugar daddies are you exchanging
00:41:38
Alicia Barbiesex for money um no a lot of them like they just like like someone to talk to and like you know text call whenever they want like take you to dinner buy
00:41:49
Alicia Barbieyou stuff and you feel that role and also have sex with them right some of them yeah and they give you money
00:41:58
Andrew Wilsonyeah do you ever feel bad about it there is there is a word for that but we'll just leave it there do you ever feel like bad about like cuz like I feel like a lot of these
00:42:10
Mandyare just like really sad old men that like never got like a real relationship so they're just paying to have a relationship sometimes I do feel bad but then I find out they have a wife oh you
00:42:20
Kennaknow so like yeah but some of them I do feel bad for like um isn't that worse I was just how's that better everyone has like their own like they just their own
00:42:33
Mandydecisions if they want to do what they do it like if anything I feel like that's more sad cuz it's like you have a wife and you can't even like like what I just don't feel bad cuz it's like you
00:42:45
Alicia Barbieshould know like that you're not anything now like come on you just literally cheated on your wife that's like what about the ones that didn't treat on their wives what about the ones that are like just sad okay them I do
00:42:55
Alicia Barbiefeel bad for like they're sad I I mean they talk they talk like I try to keep them as much company as I can you know I talk to them and stuff like that ask them about their day like I'll even go
00:43:06
Kennalike hang out with them go to um like lunch and dinners and stuff but it benefits you so that's why you're doing it right yeah he's happy like he's paying for it so he's obviously happy do you
00:43:18
Lucy / Ruby / Rileycut them off after you find out that they were married yeah okay yeah good how do you find these men and what's the oldest one been um ooh that's a good
00:43:28
Alicia Barbiequestion so I used um seeking Arrangements yeah um and like other ones too I think the oldest one I've been
00:43:37
Alicia Barbiewith is like 70 yeah did you always anticipate this wait 70 sleep with the 70y old sleep with the 70y
00:43:50
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyold not too much of my girl right now oh yeah know you're good did you anticipate this lifestyle for yourself when you were younger and growing up yeah actually I always knew like I don't know
00:44:02
Alicia BarbieI just always knew like I was just going to use the fact that I'm a girl to get when as you should come on now I always do that and then like also it's super like an easy way cuz I'm not going to
00:44:13
Alicia Barbielie I I can be a lazy person like I don't like a not like working you know so it's just easy and then I want to go to school lazy so I go to school so
00:44:24
Andrew Wilsonyou're lazy so you just let guy guys buy you [ __ ] you sex with them essentially mhm is that is that a good summary like did did I summarize that incorrectly yeah think guys I don't think guys can
00:44:36
Brian Atlaspull that off if they got money I'm so I'm so I feel like I feel like young gay men can like a young gay man could probably yeah but she's straight so who
00:44:45
Lucy / Ruby / Rileycares yeah you you said you want to go to school though are you like very good about saving your money that you're
00:44:54
Alicia Barbiemaking or are you impulsive I'm an impulsive spender yeah I I like just like to buy stuff anything really what's your favorite purchase
00:45:07
Alicia Barbieyou've made um I don't know honestly I just be buying stuff are you are you happy very happy
00:45:18
Andrew Wilsonyeah honestly I love your attitude me too come on y'all get on my girl you love what what about her attitude do you love she just doesn't care that that like people might judge I think it's cool yeah just be completely void of all
00:45:30
Lucy / Ruby / Rileymorality and emotion of any kind those men don't like just walk and fall onto seeking Arrangements like they go on there own they go there for oh and I I
00:45:41
Alicia Barbienever asked for the money you know it's always like I will pay you this that and that if you do that and I just say yes well I feel like you're on seeking so it's kind of established that you're already on there for money so I feel
00:45:54
Mizylike that's so do you never want like a husband kids or anything I do one day like like she said like probably my 30s I'll probably settle
00:46:04
TTS Readerdown metr mat donated apprciate it man this panel is so CH Crayola stock went up not a father in sight and none of
00:46:14
TTS Readerthem know their ass from their elbow what animal ComicCon did you find them men you have to stop subbing to of uh yes the San San Diego Comic-Con certainly um
00:46:27
Brian Atlasoh uh actually going around the table on this thank you Metro Matt uh are you guys uh what's your relationship like with your father starting with you I have a fantastic relationship with my
00:46:38
Andrew Wilsondad perfect uh it's good now okay which implies that it wasn't always good yes
00:46:47
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyokay we check in sometimes when's the last time you talked to him two weeks before Thanksgiving he visited
00:46:59
Brian Atlasus uh wait are you are you were you also in the Foster system no no okay your parents still together no separated yes okay I'm I'm adopted my also adopted
00:47:13
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyethnicity is Chinese and my mom is in Kentucky and my dad is in New York and he had visited us but um I don't tend to go to New York
00:47:24
Brian Atlastoo often I don't tend to travel often Los Angeles was fun wait when you say uh when you were adopted were your adoptive parents together at the time
00:47:35
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyes I was adopted at 11 months old and they flew to China and got me and then in my sixth grade year is when they
00:47:45
Brian Atlasdivorced who divorced who Mutual who was Mutual who wanted it more
00:47:54
Andrew Wilsonthough I think my mom yeah mhm so they got a divorce and then she got
00:48:00
Lucy / Ruby / Rileycustody no no she she got remarried a year after and during this time she had
00:48:11
Lucy / Ruby / Rileystill sort of lived with us but more in the downstairs level like three three tiered house and so my grandma really
00:48:20
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyhad the downstairs and she's on my mom's end and so my mom stayed with her and then she got remarried moved to Kentucky
00:48:30
Lucy / Ruby / Rileywith her husband and then and then she moved back to Nashville and then well where was Dad and you and all this he he was in our same house that we had been
00:48:41
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyin for basically my whole life until I graduated and then a few more years after that he got remarried and then
00:48:52
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyboth of them were kind of absent and my grandparents were like there but also not but at this point we are all pretty much self-sufficient I have four
00:49:03
Lucy / Ruby / Rileysiblings and I'm the youngest so um we are all pretty self-sufficient by then what about you um I have a great relationship with my dad if anything
00:49:14
Brian Atlasit's my mom you should be worried about oh also parents parents still together
00:49:20
Brian Atlasyeah no yes oh yeah and well we already talked about yeah we uh what about you I
00:49:29
Alicia Barbiehave two dads and two moms um and my relationship with my parents is very like weird because I'm a very distant person like I isolate myself so I would
00:49:41
Alicia Barbiesay that I have a good relationship with my parents but not really cuz I don't really check up on them and they don't check up on me um relationship with Dad are your
00:49:50
Alicia Barbieparents still together with my dad like I don't I know him and um he was around when I grew up well he was in jail when
00:50:01
Alicia BarbieI was born and for like a year in The First beginning but then he was around all the time and I love him um and then he just disappeared off the face of the earth I know I don't know where he's at right now um go get a pack of smokes
00:50:14
Alicia Barbiethat with that type of thing well actually my mom threw him down the stairs and then he never came back so so yeah and they're not together I think that's a valid reason not but funny
00:50:24
Alicia Barbiething it's so funny because they had me to get married and never got married they were never really like together like married it was just hell of a plan to have a kid in order to get married
00:50:36
Lucy / Ruby / Rileythat's happening right now um the last time I saw my dad was like 4 years ago okay uh relationship status we didn't get yours um my relationship status I'm
00:50:48
Lucy / Ruby / Rileysingle um my longest relationship was literally 3 months and I ended that in June so you've been single for six 6 months about yeah all right you ended it
00:50:59
Lucy / Ruby / Rileywhy did you end it um I was his first ever a girlfriend and like I wasn't like I I didn't want to be his everything like his first everything so I was like and I felt like I was self sabotaging a
00:51:11
Lucy / Ruby / Rileylot and I felt like I had to be perfect for him so I was just like what do you mean perfect like I felt like I couldn't mess up like I had to do everything right and because like what kind of
00:51:22
Lucy / Ruby / Rileything so so I had like an ex talking stage that like I was so I he was kind of like I guess I just picked up bad habits and I just I
00:51:34
Andrew Wilsondon't know there's a lot I feel I feel like you haven't told me anything here he's like being so minimalistic right now like what is bad so what what like what what types of specific things do
00:51:45
Alicia Barbieyou feel like like I don't know you don't know I don't know it's okay girl I just felt like I had to do everything right I don't know like I just like kind of things
00:51:57
Lucy / Ruby / Rileythough like treat him obviously right and not mess up I don't know like I like what does that entail like he didn't he wanted you to dress a certain way or
00:52:08
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyno this is going to sound bad but there was just a lot of reasons why I kind of broke up with it another one was like cuz hoki was like his mom like he he was
00:52:19
Lucy / Ruby / Rileylike a mom boy and like she would pay for everything when we' go out together like her credit card was his and he didn't drive he didn't work and I was just like I felt like
00:52:33
Andrew Wilsonnothing was but he didn't say that you broke up with him because he didn't drive and he didn't work no there just he said he broke up with him because he had the expectation of Mis Perfection and I'm just wondering what that looks
00:52:44
Alicia Barbielike like his mom oh no no me and his mom like I loved her but like he would oh there's girl spill the T holding
00:52:56
Lucy / Ruby / Rileylet anything hold don't hold anything back he's your ex now you can say whatever yeah I know but I still have feelings for him the plot thickens
00:53:07
Andrew Wilsonyeah you still have feelings for this guy who you dumped because he wanted you to be better who ain't [ __ ] okay so Z was his first ever girlfriend
00:53:18
Lucy / Ruby / Rileylike I I guess people I don't know people say that I'm toxic and I'm like I would always go through like I would check his phone a lot and I felt like I don't were you insecure like checking through
00:53:30
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyhis phones and everything like that not insecure I I guess I feel like I always would want to find something and I would never find anything and then because he put you like on this like
00:53:41
Lucy / Ruby / Rileypedestal right I don't know do you think you put him on a pedestal my last relationships like they basically cheated on me and
00:53:52
Lucy / Ruby / Rileyyeah and so I was just like I felt like I wasn't I guess good enough because I was always getting cheated on and you were just kind of waiting for something to happen this guy didn't cheat on you right no he didn't cheat on me did you
00:54:03
Mandyfeel like because you were like his first girlfriend and because he was inexperienced that he would like want to go out and like do stuff with other girls or something and so you no I honestly okay cuz I don't like to be
00:54:15
Lucy / Ruby / Rileysomeone's first everything cuz I don't know how to like tell like I don't know like pressure how do I control that and I didn't honestly I didn't want to end up pregnant and I don't I don't know I
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileylike experien did you guys like use condom no we didn't even do anything and it was more like a friendship then a relationship too because we didn't kiss within those 3 months we didn't even do
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Lucy / Ruby / Rileyanything why did you bring up pregnancy then because when I think of a relationship like when I'm going into a relationship I think of like marrying like I think of also having kids in my
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Andrew Wilsonfuture that's okay so I came into this conversation confused and I'm leaving this conversation okay we have