RAGE QUIT?! Do Modern Women DESERVE Chivalry? They Would Date CEO Assassin Luigi? | Dating Talk #220

Date: 2024-12-11

Duration: 7h 30m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDestiny (Cannabis)>

MMorgan (DT220)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background(audience)

SPEAKER_02Peyton(guest)

SPEAKER_03Lily(guest)

SPEAKER_04Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_05Destiny(guest)

SPEAKER_06Winter(guest)

SPEAKER_07TTS/Chat(audience)

SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_09TTS Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Eric (Osop)(guest)

SPEAKER_12TTS Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_13Ana(guest)

SPEAKER_14Ninay(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrian reveals it is the "final three shows" of the season and announces 50% off champagne pops.

“champagne pops streamlabs are 50% off the rest of the year”

QuoteEric says he first noticed Andrew when he saw him on stage with Fresh & Fit intellectually disarming a muscle-bound man, calling Andrew a "sigma type."

“I first heard of you... you kept your cool and you kind of like intellectually disarmed him”

ControversyWinter attempts Krav Maga choke on Eric. He escapes easily. She then kicks him in the balls. Major on-show physical incident.

“I could have killed and you hit me in my... real I mean in real life that's right”

QuoteBrian reveals he has been celibate from eating pussy since July 4th 2007 ("Independence Day" joke).

“It was July 4th it was Independence Day and I became independent of eating pussy”

QuoteBrian plays a video of his ex-girlfriend bowing deeply when he arrives home, with dinner ready and laundry done, as an example of an ideal traditional greeting.

“this is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend... huge bow... she got my dinner ready”

QuoteBrian tells Ninay: if she won't take his last name without a huge negotiation, he will stop opening her car door and paying for dates immediately.

“pay for your own shit until we're married... I'm never going to protect you... you can do all that shit yourself”

OtherDestiny (chair 1) falls asleep during the show. Brian calls her out for being high and disrespectful. She had left/been asleep for a portion of the later discussion.

“she Rage Quit she went to sleep... she came in high to the studio totally disrespectful”

QuoteEric (Osop) gives detailed speech about why men's standards for women need to be higher: "Men will sacrifice their happiness for their family; women will sacrifice their family for their happiness."

“men will sacrifice their happiness for their family women will sacrifice their family for their happiness”

QuoteAndrew explains that every Whatever panel is asked the same questions across 70+ episodes, so not preparing is the panelist's own fault, not a setup.

“every single panel of women who comes in the same questions are asked of them every single one... 76 times I think”

QuoteBrian challenges the misogyny accusation by asking Destiny for a specific example; she says the show just has that reputation but cannot cite anything specific from tonight.

“what have I said that is misogynistic... it seems like you view women as objects”

QuoteBrian announces Whatever podcast will take a 3-6 week holiday break. Final two shows announced (Sunday and Tuesday of the following week).

“we're going on break for anywhere from 3 to 6 weeks... final two shows”

ControversyWinter does a second physical demo against Desmond (large security guard). She attempts a double-leg takedown; he barely moves. Demonstrates the even greater gap between a small woman and a large trained man.

“she just... oh my God... he just stand there... she nearly went into the table”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Status Round

Each guest introduces themselves with name, age, location, occupation. Brian then asks about college/education. Follows with a round of relationship statuses, longest relationships, who broke up with whom, and current dating situation. Peyton's situationship (on-off, no title), Winter's celibacy and 10-month man, Ninay's 5-year high school sweetheart, Lily's 6-month girlfriend and recent 3-date fumble are notable.

Luigi Mangione / CEO Assassin Attraction

Discussion of Luigi Mangione (UnitedHealthcare CEO killer) and why many women online were attracted to him. Brian shows CCTV footage, mugshots, and TikTok reactions of women simping. Panel discusses hybristophilia (sexual attraction to criminals). Andrew and Eric debate whether women enjoy violence inherently vs socially conditioned. Most of the panel would not date Luigi despite some finding him cute.

Male vs Female Violence & Dark Psychology

Continuation of violence topic. Andrew argues men innately enjoy violence as a survival mechanism; Eric counters that violence as spectacle is socialized not natural. Discussion of war monks, samurai, hunter instincts. Women's attraction to dominance and BDSM fantasies discussed. Panel agrees women have darker psychology than mainstream admits.

Krav Maga / Strength Difference Demonstration

Winter claims she could defend herself against a man with Krav Maga skills. Eric volunteers to demonstrate; Winter attempts a rear naked choke hold but Eric easily escapes. Winter then kicks Eric in the balls, sparking debate about real-world strength differentials. Andrew provides commentary. Later, Desmond (security guard) does a second demonstration showing even greater strength gap. Andrew's Crucible crew donates $1000 to Eric.

Self-Ratings (Looks Scale 1-10)

Gorlock the Destroyer (TTS donation) asks everyone to rate their looks. Most women say 10. Brian defines the scale: 1=ugly to 10=absolutely stunning. Discussion about whether every woman is a 10. Morgan gives herself a 7. Andrew gives himself a 9. Brian asks what makes them a 10 beyond looks. AI age-progression photos shown for laughs. Plastic surgery debate follows.

Standards, Hypergamy & Wage Gap

TTS question: should men step up or women lower standards? Most women say men should step up. Brian and Eric argue women's standards have inflated while their own value has decreased ("hoe-flation"). Minimum income expectations discussed ($40k-$1M range). Andrew's argument that men's motivation to earn is driven by women's mating pressure explains the wage gap. Discussion of controlled vs uncontrolled wage gap (1 cent after adjustments).

Chivalry, Traditional Dating & Modern Women

Ninay's Instagram bio as "female advocate" sparks discussion. Brian asks what women want from traditional dating (door-opening, paying, leading) and what they offer in return (cooking, cleaning, massage). Debate about whether women can simultaneously demand traditional treatment while rejecting traditional duties. Last-name debate with Ninay — she wants a conversation about keeping her name. Brian says traditional men won't tolerate the negotiation. Andrew uses "sassy flamboyant man" hypothetical to show double standard.

Women's Rights, Voting History & Abortion Debate

Ninay's female advocacy background leads to discussion about women's rights. Brian and Andrew use charts to show men and women received voting rights within ~20 years of each other and most of history had no universal suffrage. Abortion debate: Andrew cites 0.5% of abortions are from SA, 40% "not financially prepared." Brian raises male bodily autonomy (circumcision, selective service/draft). Ninay learns about the Selective Service card for the first time.

Race, Racism & Oppression Debate

Peyton says Black people cannot be racist (only prejudiced) because of power dynamics. Andrew and Brian challenge the "power + prejudice" definition, showing it would also mean women oppress men (less threatening = privileged). Eric adds nuance about systemic vs personal racism. Discussion of police violence stats (more white men killed by police than all women combined), college enrollment stats (Black women graduate at higher rates than white women). Peyton cannot definitively explain average white man's privilege over average Black woman.

Misogyny Accusation & Show Defense

Destiny and Peyton wrote "misogyny" as a show disagreement on their pre-show questionnaire. Brian challenges them to give specific examples. Peyton says she cannot remember the specific remark. Andrew points out all questions are asked to every panel across 70+ episodes and women could have prepared. Eric notes women hold preconceived notions based on clips without watching full episodes.

Age Gap Relationships & Commonality Debate

Is it wrong for a 30-year-old to date a 19-year-old? Most panelists say yes. Andrew argues men and women have almost nothing in common regardless of age gap and the "commonality" argument is weak. Debate about what age men would date down to. Winter says she would not date above 40 (she is 35). Ana says she would not put an age cap.

Roast Session, Super Chats & Wrap

Final super chats and TTS donations read. Bear vs Man question (most pick man). Viewers roast panelists. Andrew leaves the show. Makeup removal segment (some panelists take off lashes). Winter does second Krav Maga demo with Desmond (security guard). Body count reveals. Pegging discussion. Brian gives advice for men in modern dating (level up, meet in person, passport bro option). Show announced to go on 3-6 week break for the holidays. Final two shows announced for the following Sunday and Tuesday.

Body Count, Sex Timing & Relationship Dynamics

Discussion of whether body count matters. Panel's responses: Ana and others refuse to share. Winter says 3. Eric says under 60. Peyton explains why she makes guys she likes wait longer (doesn't want to lose them) but is quicker with casual encounters — Andrew calls this "faking virtue." Eric explains men's polygamous nature. How many times rejected vs rejecting. Ages when lost virginity (mostly 16-17). Peyton previously had OnlyFans with cute content only.

Transcript

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Ninaytaking it slow too I feel like you know getting to know somebody like we' talked about three dates like a couple dates yeah yeah cording I like that word okay

Brian Atlasuh being provider and like opening door being romantic okay and so what I guess are you doing in exchange for this like what are you doing that's traditional

Destinyand how are you treating him like a gentleman are we could we just randomly talk or well how about we start here well if it was my man after a long day of work I'll massage you you know make

Destinysure you come home to a clean home this smells good homecooked meal lots of love sure I would say the same thing cooking cleaning I would say the same thing cooking cleaning like if my man wants me to rub his feet I'm

Ninaygoing rub his feet give him a massage what about you what was the question I'm it's her not you me oh yeah caretaking if it is a relationship if it's just

Ninaystarting and courting and again yeah so the beginning um definitely I think like there's like certain things like when they open the door for you outside you open it for

Lilythem inside like there's certain things that you can like reciprocate back and forth um yeah it's the first one coming my head right now okay what about you um I think just like listening to him

Ninaylistening to his problems BR his peace here I I'll give you a couple prompts on this um will you take your husband's last name yes mhm yeah I've been in debate about it but

Ninaytraditionally I I'm starting to think I will what's the debate um my last name holds a lot of meaning to me and so for a long time I didn't really even believe in marriage my aunt's a lawyer and she

Ninaylike most divorces or most marriages you want to get mared married though right I do and so my fight with myself was do I keep and hold the history of my last name right or do I go the traditional

Ninayway like my big thought was like okay where's is their standpoint on it if he's okay with it and he understands my decision then I would love to be able to but if it is a it is a topic of discussion and he is you know like it's

Brian Atlasa make or break deal yeah I I want to have that conversation okay go ahead yes you take his last name and just really quick should the guy pay for the first date yes yes yes yeah if you're asking

Brian Atlashold on hold on hold on if you're asking to go yeah um you said there would be a conversation here's the conversation hey babe you're taking my last name is there a conversation after that [Music]

Ninayyeah what's the conversation like what what is the meaning to you like why is it so I'm a tradition I'm a traditional man this is the tradition mhm what what other conversation needs to be

Ninayhad I mean is it going to be on paper is it just in display like are is it just an our you're get you're going to get a legal name do I have to legally change it on paperwork now for everything going

Brian Atlasto get a legal name change to my last name we're not going to hyphenate and the children are going to have my last name children understandable yeah you too yeah can I but can you know in change get am I allowed to keep that's

Andrew Wilsonwhat we call H right that's really that's really actually kind of weird though the Hy where it's like really long no if you wanted to keep your last name because it's that important to you that the name sake itself be kept why would you allow the children to have a

Ninaydifferent last name because wouldn't your name still die with you true but to me it's you know it's a main thing to me I hold um my children and stuff like like that kind of in the

Ninaysame Viewpoint as the like the circumcision right it's not our decision it's not my decision I can't really make that all the way it is with the parent it is with my um my spouse and like in a

Andrew Wilsontraditional way I would want them to take the last name but if the name is so important that you wouldn't want to change it because you think it should live on this is the idea here why would demand that children also have the last name it's going to die with you I don't

Ninayeven understand like well how important is it really it's going to die with you anyway it's meaningful to me and if my kids later on learn my understanding of what it meant to me and they decide they want to take that moving forward or they want to change their name and keep my

Brian Atlaslast name too they can do it so how how long is this conversation going to be because I've already told you I want our kids to have my last name that's it the kid's fine but you the original

Brian Atlasconversation me taking last name you're taking my last name too so if it's a bate I we're already getting married I said yes to you then I'll most likely take the last name but if you you mean most likely

Brian Atlasthis is I don't want to get married to you this is like something that's very important to me then I might have to take some more time to think about it oh okay well when I'm on a first date with you I'm going to have to take some time

Brian Atlasand see if we got to go 50/50 but this isn't and you can open your own car door you can open your own car door and you can do we can we can be 50/50 until you decide whether you're going to take my

Brian Atlaslast name but why would you ask but the first date and marriage is in sorry I but you said you love the same you said you love traditional dating and being treated like a lady why

Brian Atlasaren't you treating your your man like a man like a gentleman there's other ways to treat you like a man and show that you're so in all the ways so you want to you enjoy all the benefits the

Ninaytraditional dating entails no I offer as well you offer what I offer I I take care what do you mean off what do you offer I'll in return you know make sure if my person's taking care of me it's a two-way stream I'm going to feed you you

Ninayfeed me okay we are we at first dating stage or we at we're talking about marriage and last names cuz those are two different aspects of you know the dating Spectrum

Brian Atlashold on so just to be clear you want the traditional benefits early in the relationship and then you want the modern benefits when it really matters when you guys are married I believe they're are mixed in like it's a piece nowadays where they're mixed and Blended

Eric (Osop)together and you're going to get the best of both those worlds and the worst yeah I think the only thing that changed modern is just y'all you know what I'm saying because it's like if you want traditional

Eric (Osop)courtship why wouldn't you want to be a wife traditionally like that just doesn't make sense to me I there's other aspects of being a traditional wife outside of just Tak name yeah but but that's nothing from a woman's point of

Ninayview and I think traditional dating and marriage right are different amongst cultures too I learn different things than in the US and in Canada or and then Europe you know like people kiss each other on both but we talking about like

Ninaythe name though the name that's kind of universal the name yeah taking on the last name that's not that don't really change well actually in um I believe still in Mexico the kids take both the last names and then like all right go go

Brian Atlasdat the Mexican I don't know I don't know what to tell you bro I don't know we're in the United States dude I don't know how to talk about Ethiopia I don't know how to talk about some other country that I'm not thinking about some other country we're in the United States

Eric (Osop)cuz if we bring up cuz we could bring up polygamy y they do that in other count y with that no that's here too is but it's taboo here it's taboo but it's it's it's VI it's vibrant in other country so obviously we can play that under country

Eric (Osop)[ __ ] all day so my question to y'all so yeah I could go to Japan give me well hold on that's what I'm saying like y'all like to play like this anomaly game so let me ask you this what are you will are you willing are you willing to

Eric (Osop)change your apparel for your man like say if you got a very provocative Instagram and your man is like I love you but would you change your pictures would you take them down are you willing to do that for your man I've had this talk and I've had this conversation with

Brian Atlasthe man before by the way you guys have very revealing photos on your all four of you who said you body positive barely them it's barely

Brian Atlasrevealing i i five SSU pictures like no hold on I looked at all of your Instagrams you have a photo where I don't know if where you're like please

Brian Atlasdon't break leg it's looking right down Main Street at your crotch bro and you're in some panties is from 3 years ago that's revealing that old

Ninayphoto it's still online on your public only fans so on a dating aspect of that right cuz you asked what change I'm talking about we about to get married marriage or dating marriage we serious

Ninaywe about to get married okay and now how like now we're all the way in realiz you knew where you met me like that it don't matter we we married now so it's like

NinayI'm not going to put stipulation my wife is a make break change how you dress you need to dress like this now or you can't dress like this mov talk I'm talking you

Eric (Osop)could when we're out in public you with me or when you whenever if you're my wife you're a representation of me whether I'm around or not yes because women like to say well I can wear what I want when I'm by myself but if somebody

Eric (Osop)punch on you I got to do something about it so if my person if my person stay if somebody if you outside looking crazy I can't tell you what to wear a woman is say I'm wear yeah woman some Wom say well I can wear what I want so you're saying the

Eric (Osop)girl got punched because she had R I'm saying is no I'm saying that if you got into a alter regardless of what you wearing if you're outside you got into a situation your man got to defend you right even though he has no say on he

Eric (Osop)has to defend you if somebody put his hands on you right so if I got if so if you are under my care whether I'm present or not then I should also have an opinion on how you carry yourself whether I'm there or not it depends like to what degree is the girl carrying

Ninayherself like I'm talking about revealing clothes Shear see through I can see your nipples like y'all know how y'all be dressing out here today but that yeah so if my sign I feel disrespected by certain things but then vice versa are you going

Peytonto be okay if I be like hey babe I don't like what you're wearing you got to Pro prove to me how what I'm wearing is attracting something that's negative like how am I like if a man could prove that then I will listen if so I got hang on hang on maybe maybe we can look at at

Andrew Wilsona different angle let me just ask you a question by a show of hands the Titanic is going down and you only have so many lifeboats do the women and children go first raise your hand if the women and children go

Andrew Wilsonfirst okay that's the end of that so if the if the women and children go first and the men have to go down with a boat then you need to do what you're [ __ ] told and wear the right [ __ ] that the men tell you to wear

Andrew Wilsonbecause otherwise just to be clear go down otherwise you can go down with a [ __ ] ship and we because we're strong enough to make you go down with the shat

Andrew Wilsonlist now he says sit down and shut up hang on hang freak out freak out let me finish the reason that all of you raised your hand is because you said that

Andrew Wilsonthere's a social Duty and a societal expectation that you have for men great we have them for you too and what we have for you is that we don't want you to wear skimpy clothes right and walk

Andrew Wilsonaround and make a fool out of yourself right that is our social expectation you're social hang on hang on let me finish if your social expectations we go down with a ship oural expectation in

Brian Atlassociety is that you also have standards to adhere to wait wait so just to be clear just to be clear you guys want men to literally die for you but you draw

Peytonthe line at men wanting you to put on a jacket all I was saying is what what level are we at where a man is trying to tell me what I should be wearing and

Brian Atlaswhat type you want men to die for you that he literally he just asked the question do you you talking about the Titanic no we're talking about it no no no no no no

Peytonspecify this is why they want y to vote this is why anyone to vote hangang just hang you're right we're talking about the Titanic why the Titanic should the men go down and the women get the

Peytonlife boats and the kids why that's what happened in the movie cuz the mother kids have more life to forget the kids the kid okay the kids go first that's a given you know that mothers

Peytonknow mothers know best when it comes to what one man mothers know best like like mothers know best I think most mothers know best when it comes to their kids and raising their kids andw do you have the if it's a traditional man that's out working and usually is not home to take

Andrew Wilsoncare of the kids yes the woman should be going down I just want I just need to let I just need to ask you this question then if your social expectations is that women get on the lifeboats first right after the children do let's say the men

Andrew Wilsonon the Bo on board the ship say to you no no you stay on the boat and [ __ ] sink you can't force them right you can't they could force you to stay on the boat but you can't force them to

Andrew Wilsonstay on the boat why shouldn't they do that why shouldn't they why should they give you their spot on the boat why should they if they love you that's [ __ ] up oh but if you love them hang on hang on hang on hang on

Peytonhang on let me finish with if they if you love them that's [ __ ] up why they stay you it's [ __ ] up either way oh so but why is the social expectation you go because the mother I think personally

Brian Atlasthe the mother should go with her kids because mother's if you're not a mother then I feel like that's a different conversation let's make this really simple everybody on the boat is single

Peytonnobody knows anybody how about that where the kids come from okay so it's either women go or men go balance what's the social expectation we

Peytononly have should be one of each SP of the life we got why would it just only be women like that okay now I don't understand talking about just want to be right man y'all be playing these goofy ass games what's goofy because we just

Eric (Osop)said oh one woman and one man should go down y want is that not fair because you want the best from men and you're not willing to give him your best the fact that a man got to argue with you about why is my last name the only best I have

Eric (Osop)no man to argue with no man has to argue with me about what you want to do but traditional was the I'm sorry Brian traditional was the key word that's why but let's put that down if a a man

Eric (Osop)supposed to give you the best you think that a lot of men make a lot of money like you said earlier you said a lot of guys in the league a lot of like which is not but we going to go with your argument so you want the best that men

Eric (Osop)have to offer and he can't tell you to cover your ass up and you not a virgin on top of that like what is men getting out of marrying women like this I never said that a man could not tell me what

Peytonto wear just time one at a time so he can yes but it depends what level are we at that's the question that I asked what level are we at my girl first date and a man is telling me what to wear is crazy

Peytonsay that but first of all now we about to we're married okay cool like you want to tell me what marri I'm having sex with you put like this at the moment this this this are we boyfriend and girlfriend F this I feel you this the moment when you supposed to listen when

Eric (Osop)if somebody do something to you I got to do something back that's when you listen to me okay so that's right away yep that's that's fair but to say oh you can't wear this and that it's the first dat is crazy soon as soon as somebody soon I got to defend your honor that's

Eric (Osop)the moment you listen to me and that's soon as I meet you cuz but what about the women that's not dressed crazy [ __ ] still going and slap their ass then what about that I mean and that's a degenerate stupid dude but is that the majority y'all always got to find these anomalies that we look for it's women

Eric (Osop)that it's women online right now that's cooking their kids in the oven am I going to bring that up as an argument exactly exactly no no look am I lying it's happening women are putting their

Eric (Osop)kids in the oven all types [ __ ] dead and Andrew one more thing Andrew can you pull up that stat cuz you said something about a mother's knows best I'm glad you said that I seen a stat if I'm not

Eric (Osop)mistaken they said that a single father and his provision how he cares about his kid has been proven to be equivalent to a two parent household or better so do women really know best you take one

Brian Atlasstudy and you think that's supposed to represent all men women I know I know a lot of I know a lot of goofy ass mothers one sec go ahead Andrew one sec one sec one sec go ahead Andrew I'll explain

Brian Atlasthis both plenty of plenty of men that leave their families and women and they have ma way more way I'll I'll get you guys in go ahead

Andrew WilsonAndrew so here's here's the stat on this so he's right that generally speaking so it used to be that there was a default in the court uh that children basically always went with the mother as that has

Andrew Wilsondecreased as more and more fathers have been awarded custody we've been able to do some longitudinal studies on the outcomes of children who are raised in a single mother household versus a single father household and it is true that the

Andrew Wilsonoutcomes for children in a single father household do much better this is not due to income this is due to the fact that your abuse rates significantly increase by bringing additional men into a

Andrew Wilsonchildren's life who's not the father women do this however the case is is that men when they bring females into the life of children they're not much of a physical threat to the children

Andrew Wilsonbecause the father can do something about it so ultimately yes stepdads uh uh the abuse rates go up it's not that most stepdads are abusive that's not what I'm saying I'm just saying that the

Andrew Wilsonabuse rates do go up and promiscuous women the abuse rates significantly go up so yes single father households tend to have much better results and outcomes regardless of the socioeconomic status

Andrew Wilsonand that's just based off information on that one study like that's my question okay no it's it's multiple studies so this goes these are multiple longitudinal studies which go over this

Andrew Wilsonand the so there's other things too there's some factors for women here like for instance the fact that there's way more women who have custody of their children right you would think that the numbers would be reduced for men because

Andrew Wilsonnow we have a much higher pool so then we kind of break that down per capita so what we do when we dive in is we find this that when you bring strange men around your kids the chances that your kids get abuse go significantly up right

Andrew Wilsonbecause you can't do much about it you can't do much about it men can do something about it so if if uh men are in and these are other studies which show this if men are in relationships with women they begin abuse of the

Andrew Wilsonchildren men put a stop to it very very very quickly women don't often do that so it just these are these are dependent situations but men it does seem that their kids have better outcomes if

Andrew Wilsonthey're single men than single women and it seems like men pick better mates when they have children than women do in my opinion well I don't know if they pick better mates but they can just from what I've seen in my life I ain't got to they can they can just physically do

Andrew Wilsonsomething about it right women can't don't have this Force option they can't be like stop abusing my kid or else men can do that they can just walk over and SM you know what I mean like they have

Andrew Wilsonthis kind of nuclear option on force that women don't have which puts women at this big disadvantage if they're going to be single and raising kids but Andrew that's still speaks to the type of man she picked too though because

Andrew Wilsonevery man is not abusive so if you picking a guy that is a threat to your kids doesn't that say something about your evaluation most step parents are not abusive that's not that's not what I'm saying no agree most step parents are not abusive it's just that the rates

Andrew Wilsonof abuse significantly increase the second you have other men who are not the biological father like for instance yeah you're in the abusive home with your biological parents it's an abusive

Andrew Wilsonhome you're actually less likely to die in that abusive home than if the state takes you out of that abusive home like that's how crazy these stats are when it

Andrew Wilsoncomes to paternal Instinct and it's like this is across the board so you never want to get it's it's really easy to be like that means no step parents that's not not what I'm saying I'm just saying

Brian Atlasthat I do I have to move things on I mean just to finish up on this whole traditional thing when it came to the uh the last name the conversation that you and me were having and you're dating a

Ninaytraditional guy he's if you guys are engaged it's over I hope you understand that that's fine if that's the then it wasn't meant to be and that person doesn't know me this this girl's

Brian Atlasthrowing away a traditional man because she wants to Trad she won't be a she wants a traditional man she claims to be a traditional woman but she won't even do the traditional thing of this is the

Ninaytradition I'm not saying I won't take it and I think in the beginning I did state if it's somebody I said okay I'm going to marry you a traditional guy but if you're going to be submiss do you want to be submissive to your husband I am submissive to my husband to my husband

Brian Atlasto my partner how would you be submissive if he's like this is my decision on this that's the that's the end of the conversation it's conditional submission no she wants to Big she wants

Brian Atlasto nag and have like multiple not nagging I think this is you want to have like numerous conversations about this and nag and hope that he finally relents

Ninayin his position that he wants you to take the last name this is the this is all the conversation that needs to happen no she a thorough thing I want to go through I don't to I don't know what comes with your last name I don't know what you got going on in your family

Brian Atlashistory we're engaged we engaged know me by who cares in fact you have a great last name my last let's say the the last name in this situation sucks go with my yeah no how about everything is great

Brian Atlaswith his P I don't know what that has everything is great in his past but he has like a kind of bad sounding last name do you want to keep your last [Music]

Ninayname it would have to really depend on how much I love that person how much I like want to get married to them you already agreed to you obviously love the guy if I already said yes and it was a conversation we already had and I'm like

Ninayyes I'm I'm already marrying you I've already said yes to that I'm going to probably most likely take your name but prior to me saying yes prior to me saying yes to marry you most likely yes

Ninayto marrying you we're we're already at this I'm taking the last if I'm already saying yes to marrying you I probably already established we taking the last name right but prior to me saying yes to marry you we need to have this

Ninayconversation on I need you to understand my placement how I feel about my last name and can we have that conversation then if you're like that conversation if in that conversation you're like no I'm strict I

Brian Atlaswant to I want you to have my last name and that's what it's going to be it shouldn't even be a conversation you should just be like well we live in modern modern days pay for your own [ __ ] until we're married I'm never going to

Ninayprotect you I'm never going to open the car door you can do all that [ __ ] okay then I'm also not going to clean the house I'm not going to cook for you I'm not going to take care of you on the other traditional aspects that I'm also supposed to cover if we're going to go if that's going to be how it is because

NinayI'm over one traditional thing and I have you know a controver and I look at that a certain way now you want to take all the traditional aspects off the table that's a big thing though that it is a big thing that's why I want to have a conversation that's why I want to have a

Brian Atlasconversation about it let's talk about it you do but a man don't what is the I don't understand the point of having the conversation if you met a guy and he's like yeah I'm super traditional and he's

Brian Atlaslike I want to have a conversation about all the ways in which you expect me to be traditional he's like I want to have a conversation about paying for the first date bro I guarantee you if you you went on a date with a dude and he's

Brian Atlaslike babe I want to have a conversation about who's going to pay for this date you'd be like it's over for that dude you and you know it you know it would be over you'd be like i' be like what conversation you

Brian Atlaswant to have about it what's going on why you know the economy and look the you know it's just I would really appreciate if we go like 50/50 on this until we're married so if you ask me out on this date and you're

Ninaylike hey I want to take you out that's your do do you ask guys out on dates um ask people to go

Brian Atlasout not your you guys always do this oh the boyfriend I've been seeing for 3 months I asked him out to lunch no First Dates okay first you guys are not friend it's not a thing that's not really a

Ninaything that I had to or experence but I will take my man out I'm going to go take talk about ini congrats the guy's been paying for 3 months and then you'll

Andrew Wilsontake him out once to [ __ ] McDonald's congratulations such a analogy here he's used many of my arguments I think I'll steal one of his for a change let me just ask you this

Andrew Wilsondirectly this is uh myON Gaines has said this in the past it's actually a pretty pretty worthy question uh would you date a super flamboyant and Sassy man uh who promises

Ninaythat he'll be a traditional man for the right woman uh but he needs a few dates to make sure that you're the one and tobacco addi pretty good I mean I feel like it takes a few days to

Andrew Wilsonsee the person in general right listen to the rest of the question go would you date a super flamboyant sassy man no who promises that he'll be traditional for

Andrew Wilsonthe right woman but he needs to test you first by going on a few dates with you and paying like 50/50 you know money answers all thing you know they pay it's all good right no

NinayI feel like actions speak louder cuz you can come off flamb booy and you can come off certain things but then in those dates that we're getting to know each other you can show that traditional rather than saying it and I'm like okay

Andrew WilsonI'm going to show you like so you would you would wait so you would actually take a flamboyantly sassy man uh and and tell him that one day maybe he would decide he would be traditional for you

Ninayif you were worthy of it and he needed to test you first really you would really do that like I said you see along those dates if that person is really traditional or not or super flamboyant

Ninayand halfway through and I'm like okay now that's too sassy for me no tradition whatsoever yeah then I'm out of there but you don't know anything let I like a little sass I bet you do the only reason yall

Eric (Osop)like a little sass cuz you know a little sass me you can control them a little bit yeah that's about it do y'all agree with this statement fellas I like my men a little emotional well we had the conversation do y'all agree with this fellas I feel

Eric (Osop)like modern women will sacrifice being happy to be right while men will sacrifice being right to be happy I don't know how about this one uh men will sacrifice their happiness for

Ninaytheir family women will sacrifice their family for their happiness no I I know a lot of women I know women who you just thre away a good guy cuz there are good guys in the world

Ninaythere are Godly men out there that will freaking be willing to take that conversation with me but I know women who stayed in unhealthy toxic relationships that they hate and they didn't want to be in and were very depressed for to keep the family

Peytontogether and they're like this small ass list y always want to find these anomali make but you like I know somebody that did that

Brian Atlason me I had you know too who you from La you please come on now I have a couple chats for you go ahead Ana I my car remember the question

Morganthat I asked earlier oh wait are we not getting Audio Mic um okay um Morgan can I have you reading remember that question we asked ear why would I wife any of you as a high

Morganvalue man gents behold the answers pure unadultered dog [ __ ] holy UND underserving of traditional Valley tradition deserving of traditional

NinayValley he did ask the wife question giving traditional what was his name again Lucas shut up Lucas oh [ __ ] that's my future man's head to find out okay

PeytonLucas aren't you married why are you worried about what we're doing go worry about your wife you have a wife already why do you why do you want to talk about wife and us and you already got a wife you don't get to Cherry

Andrew Wilsonpick Lucas's defense what Lucas is is saying well as as a man he has duties in society and he's going to have daughters and things like this and and possibly

Andrew WilsonSons one day his sons may end up having to date women who are like you if this is the case he wants to understand the interworkings of the sexual Dynamic so it's perfectly acceptable for him and

Morganmillions of others to take interest in this and modern dating makes total sense to me all right read this you don't get to Cherry pick which Traditional Values that uh benefit you it's in All or

MorganNothing proposition I work 12 to 14 hours a day earning seven figures do you really think I'm going to waste a single brain looks like he has another one coming in but there's one from Desert Joe coming here thank you Lucas we'll

Morganwe'll be on the lookout for your second one this is a common theme for these modern 304s guys and in cat food companies in a few years the market is going to explode why are we

Brian Atlasmodern 304s we didn't even say nothing apparently my viewpoint you know all about thank you deser Jo appreciate the Super Chat Lucas we'll be on the lookout for your I think your secondary message

Brian Atlasthat might be coming in here in just a sec look I just don't get this whole traditional thing like just say you're you're not traditional just like accept like kind of a soy boy just stay the soy boy leave the traditional men for the

Brian Atlastraditional woman I'm willing to become a traditional woman for the right man like I don't care I'm willing to pay for First Dates maybe like six months in is that fair no but the the idea for that is the

Andrew Wilsonfirst TR not make it there when you say I'm willing to become a traditional woman for the right traditional man that's a huge deal sweetheart isn't that isn't

Andrew Wilsonthat the same idea saying I'll become virtuous and good seen when when the time comes to be virtuous and good you're saying the same thing right like I'll be virtuous when it's time to be

Andrew Wilsonvirtuous for the right man isn't that backwards would you want to be virtuous first because you would be trying to ins snare or in some way uh incentivize The Virtuous in practice makes perfect I

Eric (Osop)feel Noti it's a lot of y'all be thinking y'all could just turn this switch on but no you got to practice being a woman cuz I know a lot of women who said that and then when they put been putting them situations they can't handle being that type of woman cuz

Andrew Wilsonthey've never been it you have that's like us can we just start being a man when we meet yall I got to be a man hang on hang on this moves but this moves back to the my to the myin argument that he was making right he's like listen to what you just said I'm willing to be traditional for the right

Andrew Wilsonman but then if the argument goes back to you well if a man says okay look if you're if you're Mrs sassy pants and this and that I'll do the same thing I'll be Mr sassy pants and I'll be I'll

Andrew Wilsonbe a pain in the ass right I'm going to [ __ ] test you for x amount of time so I can make sure that you're willing to do these traditional roles that I want you probably wouldn't like that right I wouldn't and I feel like there's a lot

Peytonof guys out here that are like that I'm not going to lie like sassy very sassy and they want to test women and see what they can get out of women or but isn't that what you're doing to them no

Andrew Wilsonhow done saying that you'll be traditional for the right man well hang on hang on I just want to let you know that means that has to actually mean that he has to fit a b c

Peytonand d box and then you'll be you'll act the correct way way that you think he wants you to act that's not true because I've met dudes that didn't even meet my standards and because I just [ __ ] with them so heavy and I really love them I

Peytonactually waited around to see if they would change and do better for me so I feel like it's very much so possible for it to be vice versa so that's why even in in the situation that I'm in right now he's not a traditional but I can

Peytontell he's trying to put in that work to be the man that I want him to be and I don't mind doing that same thing in in in return for him so if he asked me oh can you delete these pictures D D D D because he's doing everything so right I actually would do that for him but he

Eric (Osop)don't trip off me so when I say I'm not a traditional woman because y'all talking about all my Instagram is revealing that's really what I'm talking in reference to I I hear you and I heard that before but when I see women do that in real time they always are able to give a certain kind of guy that

Eric (Osop)stipulation so in other words it was a dude that was you know very um straight to the point cleancut conservative and coming at you like that y'all don't give that same um submission but y'all have

Eric (Osop)all the patience in the world for a dude with a certain in my opinion edgy Hood maybe aesthetic y'all got patience for that guy I don't see a lot of women giving patience for you know

Eric (Osop)the everyday brother like the the guy that got that rapper look or something like that oh yeah you you got all the patience for him but a regular dude y don't have that same patience my my man is a regular dude and I have so much patience for him and I believe you I've

Lilybeen saying a lot of women say that but when I see what they de it's like oh I'm sure you got Pati for him oh I was just saying I feel like that's their type like if a girl doesn't like a regular dude what's upu what's the problem with no I'm I'm that's fine but I'm just saying even when you look at the

Eric (Osop)statistics of women who be getting pregnant at least in my community they get pregnant by a small percent of men so it seems like most men are not even getting their attention so it seems like women are dealing with one kind of guy and they have patience for one kind of

Peytonman they don't have patience for all different types of men I feel like yes it seems but I just don't think that's true for everybody cuz even a lot of people that I went to school with a lot of people that I'm friends with they're all dating regular guys like I know a few of my friends who are dating like

Peytonokay NFL NBA this that like dudes with money but that's not everybody that's not what everybody wants and I feel like it's not like a good representation of all women to say oh yeah just because you see all these women say that on social media that represents all I mean

Eric (Osop)look at the Chris Brown concert look how many women was willing to give up their relationships for a picture with him I would I would never that's why I can't really but a lot of women do it yeah that's true so y'all would so so let me ask you something so you got a man y'all

Eric (Osop)been together Chris Brown catch you sliping say yo I got I got 10 bands I just want to spend just spend time with you for a couple hours you going to you what are we doing exactly we got one we

Peytongot another one so you said no you would until n she going what about you I'm not a Chris Brown supporter I'm not I don't support Chris Brown either no don't change answer she change I would not I would not cheat I would not cheat like

Eric (Osop)he ain't say cheat just said hang out he got 10,000 he just want to hang out ask my man first the fact that you even ask him shows you you out of here I wish my girl would ask hey baby can I go hang with Chris your out of here what if I give him some of the money what's WR

Brian Atlaswith he might get some of that honey you know what I'm saying no y'all say that it's Chris I want to move things along a little bit I'm going to try to get through the pre-show notes quickly so we can get into the questionnaire uh moving

Brian Atlasover here to Lily but you don't do only fans no never done only fans no okay no like you're not going to find any uh you said you actually dated your exbest

Brian Atlasfriend's cousin in college who is also in the same sorority as you oh wow and you dated a guy earlier this year that believed all women are dumb and broke oh I already mentioned that part yeah you already mentioned that um you dated your

Brian Atlasex best friend's that's it yeah oh you're ex best friends I have a best friend okay yeah uh you think you think the the other guy though you think he was secretly a misogynist and he also told

Brian Atlasme to find a different profession instead of modeling when his past two xes were models and he has a background of taking runchy pictures of women on cars did you but you dated them though

Brian Atlasum was this your longest relationship the misogynist no she likes misogynists I guess I don't like misogynist um you I left him after that you wanted to talk about things being 50/50 if men should be providers despite women making their

Lilyown money and if they have a limited mindset towards money what did you mean by that okay so that guy that I was talking to like he he thought like the most money he could make is 100k like I

Lilywant a man that thinks ambitious yeah amb ambitious like that's not 100K is not ambitious okay but like that's all he thought he could make like in his entire life what's

Eric (Osop)wrong but that was enough but that's but to be honest is a 100,000 enough to live a decent Life as a single man as in the average country in average TR date like even dating where do you want to go the

Brian Atlasb Thursday like what the [ __ ] that's your problem fan what I say they live in a world between fear and fantasy yall not in reality what what is the thing things being 50-50 what do you mean like

Brian Atlassplitting the bills well what do you want do you want 50/50 or you want the man to I want the man to pay for everything pay for everything okay and you'll take the last name yeah okay yeah you said that already uh you said uh

Brian Atlaslet's see a lot of people don't want to settle down anymore there's a lot of hookup culture mostly men what do you mean by mostly men I feel like men just see you grow they just want to [ __ ] do you think it's because they feel

Eric (Osop)like that's all y good for yep yeah and who's all that that how is that our fault oh how is it not when most women put a price on everything to get from them if men feel like everything is about money so let's just get straight to it if you put yourself not to say

Eric (Osop)yall but once you put yourself in the transactional energy it brings men the transactional energy out of them it's like well everything is a price with her she's not going to listen to me she ain't going to change how she want to wear let's just get straight to the to

Eric (Osop)the mustard I'm pay you and you just do what you I'm not like that I ain't no trick but women I feel like are Force the men to be that way y'all sure y'all take crazy pictures you're always putting yourself out there so that's giv

Eric (Osop)pay for me Vib so that's why men are going to come at you like that I think if a woman was to take crazy pictures like she's doing it for herself not like for other people I know but you're still speaking from the perspective of a woman y'all don't even consider how we view

Eric (Osop)things and how we view things should matter because we built this [ __ ] so we have to our voices have to matter the fact that you can work in a world where you don't rely on a man what's afforded

Eric (Osop)to you by the Ingenuity of man so y'all never think about what men think you could feel however you want but a man if you think if I'm making $400 $300,000 you think I got time to argue with you

Eric (Osop)about something you going to do it or I'm getting the [ __ ] on because y'all always focus on this specialized man that guy is not trying to hear what the [ __ ] you talking about if it ain't on his his program not no abusive [ __ ] not no misogynistic [ __ ] but certain

Eric (Osop)concrete things about how you want you to carry yourself how you want you to deal with him he it's non-negotiable I didn't work this hard to bring myself out the mud to make 400,000 to deal with a woman who wants to submit to me

Eric (Osop)optionally that doesn't make sense but it makes sense in y'all mind I think I think I feel like because they don't submit also you know what are we submitting to wait you want to the girl

Eric (Osop)you want wow I'm opening do [ __ ] with other tens of other [ __ ] that's all y'all got is cheating yes cuz that's a very large this why but this the thing I what's this why I don't believe that

Eric (Osop)[ __ ] because I see rappers athletes entertainers I don't see aund dudes going to Rihanna concert throwing their drawers on the stage we don't do that [ __ ] but a woman

Eric (Osop)would go to a hold on right I'm saying that's more discreet that she's not going to answer but I'm not going to I seen Kevin Gates did a concert it was a pregnant girl on stage with him she was

Eric (Osop)pregnant she let this man spit in her [ __ ] mouth so what I'm saying is women say oh we don't want that I think women put a stipulation on money it's like if you got if you can afford to be a cheater they'll let you cheat because

Eric (Osop)you know for women know for a fact that these rappers that they running up into their hotel room trying to get in line you know he ain't faithful to you women want the high of the experience of being around a high value man but they don't

Eric (Osop)necessarily want him to stop dealing with other women if he can afford to keep you hushed up women I know yall going to say it cuz women are very PR friendly but behind closed doors I've seen more women deal with a man who's willing to if he's willing to pay you

Peytonand take you to Dubai and he want a little side piece most women to let him do that take myself to Dubai yeah okay single sound good I've had like a experience where I've dealt with dudes who had a lot of money and I I knew that they was

Peytondealing with other people but like you said you're right yes there's some situations where if I'm satisfied in all other ways I will let some [ __ ] money if he got money but in the end I've learned that it's not worth it and I would

Peytonrather be with the regular dude that would treat me right and love me than the high value man that's going to me dude but you really want the other dude no that's cuz I don't want to be cheated on actually no if I wanted the other

Eric (Osop)dude I would have still been with so he going to make sure you got a dress right then that's fine immediately I don't he never complains so yeah he must where he from La oh he different you co we ain't going how how

Peytonyou how you tripping on my Instagram pictures but you was just liking my pictures I mean I like them but I Ain J in okay you want to

Brian Atlasbe okay I uh going back to Lily your final notes here you said also people not knowing how to properly take someone on a date or plan and by people it was

Lilythe same guy you mean men oh same guy but yes men in general so but what does it mean to properly take someone on a date or plan um what does that look like well I feel like a man should like take

Brian Atlasinitiative plan out what we're going to do where we're going to go all right so have much first dat let's get something to eat okay well pick are you are you talking like okay uh I'm going to pick

Eric (Osop)you up 7 p.m. we're going here we this yeah that's nice most guys aren't doing that okay most of y'all be late too every time I'm playing something with y'all y'all never okay lie about the

Brian Atlastime lie about the time speaking speaking of late by the way I didn't mention this at the beginning of the show I um normally I I don't I was about to say normally I don't stand on principal but we had these uh we had three girls there's going to be it was

Brian Atlasgoing to be 10 on the panel total you're drinking the champagne you don't want it you can have it yeah you don't want you you all yours uh three girls were running like 30 40 minutes it's late and uh I was like you know what [ __ ] it you

Brian Atlasguys aren't coming on the show he pulled up uh one of the girls was like 20 30 minutes away she's probably dark cavia no no no she was not

Brian Atlascoming it was uh just three other girls uh two of them coming together and then a separate girl who was coming it's like I was like you know what just turn [ __ ] turn around man you're too you're late where they drove from where did they drive from La I was like [ __ ]

Destinyit I don't care shout out to you for being a gangster I was like back to LA you go would you do that on a date girl huh would you do that on a date like if

Brian Atlasyou were waiting for her and she's lagging on waiting um I mean it depends so like has she been in communication has she been in communication if there's

Peytonno communication 15 minutes but she's gorgeous don't give a [ __ ] always you got to play them out them the ones you got to play out the quickest you said no communication yeah so for example but if

Brian Atlasshe here's the plan here's the plan okay uh the plan is meet at 700 p.m. somewhere I arrive hey what's up I'm here uh I don't hear from her anything

Brian Atlaslike hey sorry I'm running late 15 minutes max otherwise I'm out what did she text you say if she text me if she texts me I'll maybe I'll wait between 20

Eric (Osop)to 30 minutes I'm res wait like two hours somebody wait somebody see that's that's that and and those type of dudes is what's messing up the game for everybody for for the date if late by

Eric (Osop)the way I'm resing or leaving I'm not paying for she's late 7:00 if you got me waiting 30 minutes me I'm for the even if I'm obsessed with you I'm more obsessed with

Eric (Osop)myself and my self resect because if I let you get away with that like okay come in I don't give a [ __ ] about none of that [ __ ] if I say if I my time is pre precious I might have something to do I might have shifted my day around just for this time frame cuz y'all love

Eric (Osop)high value men who got [ __ ] to do right so if I got [ __ ] to do that mean I put something important to the side to put time aside for your ass so if you don't come at 7:00 I'm not coming because I'm giving you the wrong uh image of what

Eric (Osop)type of man I am you need to know how to deal with me I'm not the other dude who's obsessed with you I'm me I'm obsessed with my time and that's what's precious so if you respect my time then I'll be obsessed with you okay that's

Brian Atlasthat's good y'all St I really understand it truthfully like that also have you had the experience Eric where uh where the girl will be late and not even I I you don't need to be like crying begging

Brian Atlasfor forgiveness I just want like a simple like hey sorry I'm late but they won't even say women will not even apolog they'll just be like Oh I'm here like because this this why this why

Eric (Osop)Brian because women she her mind is like this if you're sitting here waiting for me after I done been late you obviously don't respect yourself so why should I no even if it's like just 10 15 minutes

Brian Atlaslate I still expect I again you don't need to be like Oh I'm how you late to work exactly what you saying no like I just want like a a very

Brian Atlastoken hey sorry I'm late how's how you doing like that's it I but if they don't even do a token apology I'm just like now if you late and you br something in your hand to like listen I'm sorry I brought you a little something I might

Ninaybut usually first day a little what anything it could anything you guys like get flowers like if a girl gave me flowers what should I pull up when I'm

Eric (Osop)might say hey I seen I I brought you a a mug a coffee mug or something maybe mug I don't give a [ __ ] I don't know what it is I'm just saying she just did something like one time a girl broke me a hasset you know what I'm saying it was

Eric (Osop)a little small one but I'm just saying First Impressions is everything yeah and and we live in we live in a world where people be playing so and time is of the essence so I don't have time to keep evaluating whether you really [ __ ] with

Eric (Osop)me because to me being on time is Mad simple and so is rescheduling is simple I'll take a res schedule but don't have me sitting looking stupid I'm leaving I feel like your mindset makes sense for you cuz you're like older I was always

Lilylike this oh okay it's jerse I agree with them though like if s's late and they say anything I'm probably never going to see them again yeah that's rude got to stand yeah yeah like I don't

PeytonI don't usually it's never the guy that's late it's usually me like I feel like I haven't experienced that she that's that pretty privileg and these dudes be too weak for that [ __ ] and that's why I said I like guys that's obsess with me so like they'll be okay mean he's not obsessed with you it just

Eric (Osop)mean he respect himself and you don't really want a man long term like that on me I don't cuz I'm long term you don't want a man that's just more obsessed with you than himself you don't really want that kind of guy it feels good but

Eric (Osop)long term that's not what you want why not you'll see all right what about the dude that's UPS you obsessed with you now you still haven't decided whether you taking him serious or not but he's obsessed right but he ain't got you exactly if a girl really likes you she

Ninaywants the title like immediately of course immediately she going to let you know she going to touch all that [ __ ] no I've been like casually getting to know somebody for some time I do like them but I'm taking my time with it exactly I

Ninayjust want to take late to them dat either though is you H you ain't late to them dat a few times I do my flight was late my flight my fault my was what's

TTS/Chatthe latest you was at a DAT wait okay hold on guys the chat's coming there's too much to cross talkot donated $200 if a woman is late can she be forgiven we'll do the B

Brian Atlasvideo really quick because I'm sure this panel will like it um yeah you know if she's oh like I bend over and say I'm sorry I'm here I will accept I will I will forgive the tardiness if she you got the bow video all right this is my

Brian Atlasthis is a photo I took of my ex-girlfriend wait wait until the text goes away is it really your ex this is my ex-girlfriend this is a photo this is a video I took um just to it was after a long day of a at the podcast studio and

Brian Atlasum yeah this is a and then boom huge bow I it took me a while to get the the the degree of bow down all the way and then look you know I get home um you know she

Brian Atlasgot to do the laundry right away you know uh and then dinner this not your video and then dinner I got my dinner she's got my dinner ready for me this is this is your look she cracks open a beer for me this is great this is what this

Destinyis a what does she make what is it feeds you she going to feed you yeah she got me she has dinner ready what she make that your girlfriend that was your exgirlfriend what she make play it again right Play It Again

Brian Atlasboom huge you see the bow the degree it wasn't just like a little shitty bow I mean she could have gone a little deeper out it scold her for a bit but yeah that's uh that was scold her what's the what's with the bowl of tomatoes Brian I

Brian Atlasdon't there's there's a whole bowl of Tom what's the deal with that well so what I did you not included in the video right after I hit the stop button I grabbed the bowl of tomatoes and you saw

Brian Atlasthat balcony like with the with what's it called the the sliding glass door I went on to the balcony and I [ __ ] chucked that [ __ ] and I was like never make this for me again she she did I'm

Peytonkidding that you threw the food that she made for you out tomato tomato away I was about also yeah what

Andrew Wilsonthe hell that's like me saying oh I made you I made you a dinner and I gave you a bowl of of like full apples like what do you mean that's not making dinner yeah uh going around the table really quick uh would you bow for your man I guess

Ninaylike that yes oh okay there you go yeah yeah of course it's in my cultural tradition what B what's your I'm I'm

Brian AtlasAsian I'm Cambodian really wow I thought you were maybe like um I'm Cambodian German so I I thought you were like maybe like a Latina or

Brian Atlassomething all right okay cool there you go uh would you bow for your man for what I knew what do you mean what do you mean for what Bo wait what why am iwing for them because you love him obviously

Peytonyeah she like was greedy oh wait you mean like about every time I see him or like is a sorry like no no no like like uh I get home from work that's the greeting when I get home I could just

Lilysay hi give him a kiss bro like what I need bow for he's paying all the bills I don't care you want me like that that is

Brian Atlasa deal breaker you must I'll get on my knees yes always the money okay um yeah and that's going to be good now all right she no B it's uh it's interesting

Brian Atlasum question though have you ever had the one night stand yeah okay so just to be clear like you'll let a guy like you'll let his penis inside you but you won't like just

Lilygo like that 3 seconds okay but like no one's ever told me a about before so why would I do it yeah go with the program

Brian Atlasno not no no bowing from you yeah who am I bowing for your boyfriend or whatever I don't know I don't have a boyfriend if you would you bow for your girlfriend I don't have a girlfriend you you'd bow

Brian Atlasfor your girlfriend I don't have one if if you H like are they asking me to bow or like can I ask you can I ask you a question um how would you feel if you didn't have anything for breakfast this

Brian Atlasmorning I'll eat lunch you what I'll just eat lunch she'll just eat lunch all right Andrew liked that one um okay all right

Brian Atlasuh huh all right how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast I would be hungry I'm hungry I know I'm hungry but I but I did have breakfast but I did have breakfast you I what you eat I had

Eric (Osop)a burrito a breakfast burrito sounds fire a BBB I know oh BB about to pause there for a minut almost a pause Brian almost almost pause what did you

Lilythink I was BBC BBC oh what the [ __ ] what the that's crazy that's crazy but wait what's a BBB a BBC actually the I thought he was going

Brian Atlasto say a BBC I thought he Brian breast a Brian breakfast burrito okay okay a Brian breakfast burrito okay she went I just the the whole thing with the the why I

Brian Atlasask you the question is like women will like refuse to do this bow which takes like no heard it's pretty benign but like they'll let a guy blast in their

Brian Atlasface within 30 minutes of meeting them they'll bend over but they won't bow you will let a man inside of you with his penis ravage you won bow you won't do a

Peytonbow uh didn't you say that she'll [ __ ] a girl but won't kiss her I never said that mixed

Ninayup your would you guys bow to a would you guys bow to your woman I would not bow to it no really have you had a one night stand so you'll put your penis inside a one night stand but you won't bow to

Ninayyour woman who's making you the food and doing the bed and doing your laundry went home would you would you bow bowls of food no I would bow her

Eric (Osop)over and show how much I appreciate it but I'm not bowing you but if she ask you she like you can't do sh without I can do you can't whoop nobody ass for me you can't do nothing wo wo wo so why would I bow

WinterI could definitely whoop somebody what if your woman SE examp that wasn't me that was my example that was we y'all not built for that I'm not but if he bows would yall bow back yeah you feel

Eric (Osop)tin of respect uh anyways uh yeah it's just interesting I want my man it's funny cuz every time you say yes to something your head be going like this you noticed that wait what she do I'm just

Brian Atlasthinking she agre she like no yeah I'll do that like you sure I don't know she a little conflicted I wonder um I mean to to use a more realistic example like the same woman who's like I'm not going to

Brian Atlasclean for my guy I'm not going to cook for my guy but like will like suck his dick within an hour of meeting it like just the new tongue kiss honestly yeah that head is the new KISS head is the new KISS head is the new first whatever

Brian Atlasjust have just have SE like you'll have sex with a guy like the but the thought of like they draw the line and making a plate but the thought yeah like the thought of cooking or cleaning or whatever it is like that's crazy but

Brian Atlaslike I could bust me face yeah that doesn't make sense to me I don't know um going to P going to your notes you said that uh men spoiling their girlfriend girlfriends that something you wanted to talk on you want to be spoiled yeah I

Peytonthink I've expressed that a lot do you spoil back you get you get spoiled I do how I just said I cook I clean suck [ __ ] like you know I I also like that's the reg that's basic I'll pay for a man's

Peytonstuff too like kind that's I'm A Gift Giver like I'll give a man gifts like especially if he's doing a lot for me like I'll always always like remember that in the back of my head sex and food is the basics man imagine if gu there a lot of women that's not going to cook

Eric (Osop)for their literally just said I know plenty of women that will not cook for a man that's not her boyfriend you right but just because y'all lowered the ball for yourself don't mean I'm doing it cooking is sucking and [ __ ] ain't no that ain't reg you supposed to do that [ __ ] to me I feel like it's not regular

Brian Atlasbecause a lot of men complain about how they can't even get that from women so I because they settle for women who won't do that [ __ ] okay so then it's not the bare minimum then it's definitely the bare minimum I don't think it is but you know to each is own you said something

Peytonalso about men deciding who to spend money on yeah what does that mean like I feel like some men like would treat women a certain type of way did like I don't know like for me I feel like men pick and choose who they're going to be

Brian Atlasthe right man for like don't women do that too though we all do yeah like you you you'll let the guy with the face tat hit right away but like the nice guy like the good guy with a steady job but

Brian Atlasmaybe he's not like the best looking or he's not that charismatic but he treats you well never cheat on you like church he's got to wait 3 months hello no well if he's fine with

Brian Atlaswaiting 3 months what's a problem oh he wants to have sex but you're like no no no pump I'm not that type of girl meanwhile like two weeks ago you were at the club and some guy finger blasted you

Lilyafter 30 minutes well finger blasted it's always 30 minutes 60 Minutes well I feel like that goes to the same thing where like you treat people a way that

Eric (Osop)like never mind no no no keep going tell

Lilyyourself reboot real quick reboot okay like refresh a guy could go like [ __ ] have a one night stand with some girl not take her on dates and then he could see another girl and like spoil her take

Brian Atlasher on dates I feel like it's how you see each person exactly that was my point when I wrote that but usually I feel like the guy who's gonna like spoil the girl on dates

Brian Atlashe's GNA do that for the girl who's worthy of longterm whereas women you withhold sex from the long-term guy and you give the sex to the [ __ ] boy who you

Brian Atlasknow like you know so it's like the men reward the long-term girls the men re reward uh the like women who are

Brian Atlasdeserving of it and then but you women you withhold which can be viewed as like a essentially a punishment like you give up you give the sex to the men who are the least

Peytondeserving and you withhold the sex from The Men Who are argu arguably the most deserving because like okay this is what I would say about that so I feel like sometimes you might run into a dude and you feel like he only wants you for sex

Peytonbut you might also only want him for sex too so you know like [ __ ] him quick you know and then the dude that you really want to be with you don't want to [ __ ] him quick because you know once you [ __ ] him he's going to lose respect for you that's typically how it is with a lot of guys like if you [ __ ] them quickly they

Peytondon't respect you they don't value you and it's only going to ever be about sex so you make the dude that you want to take the most serious wait to really see and vet them out if it's going to be worth it to give them the coochie versus the dude that you don't even really want

Eric (Osop)to take seriously yeah we could just [ __ ] be buddi and that's why ladies and gentlemen men look at y'all as just sexual objects because that makes no goddamn sense in the world you're going

Eric (Osop)to make the good dude weight you going to make the good dude weight because he's not going to be good dude once you give him the coochie that's true sometimes the GUI can make the dude act the bad guy act better y was just saying

Brian Atlasy'all would never take serious no one night stand bro no not one I so you give one night stand to the good man he's never wait let me ask you guys a question let me ask you guys a question of all your like the longest

Brian Atlasrelationships you've had was it like okay we're going to wait 3 months or like of all the boyfriends or relationships you've had did you hook up with him like the first second or third date be honest no I feel like my most

Eric (Osop)longlasting relationships were guys that I may wait for to coochi how long is waiting like a month or two okay the longest was eight she's lying I will give you two weeks I see two weeks

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