RAGE QUIT?! Do Modern Women DESERVE Chivalry? They Would Date CEO Assassin Luigi? | Dating Talk #220

Date: 2024-12-11

Duration: 7h 30m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDestiny (Cannabis)>

MMorgan (DT220)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background(audience)

SPEAKER_02Peyton(guest)

SPEAKER_03Lily(guest)

SPEAKER_04Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_05Destiny(guest)

SPEAKER_06Winter(guest)

SPEAKER_07TTS/Chat(audience)

SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_09TTS Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Eric (Osop)(guest)

SPEAKER_12TTS Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_13Ana(guest)

SPEAKER_14Ninay(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrian reveals it is the "final three shows" of the season and announces 50% off champagne pops.

“champagne pops streamlabs are 50% off the rest of the year”

QuoteEric says he first noticed Andrew when he saw him on stage with Fresh & Fit intellectually disarming a muscle-bound man, calling Andrew a "sigma type."

“I first heard of you... you kept your cool and you kind of like intellectually disarmed him”

ControversyWinter attempts Krav Maga choke on Eric. He escapes easily. She then kicks him in the balls. Major on-show physical incident.

“I could have killed and you hit me in my... real I mean in real life that's right”

QuoteBrian reveals he has been celibate from eating pussy since July 4th 2007 ("Independence Day" joke).

“It was July 4th it was Independence Day and I became independent of eating pussy”

QuoteBrian plays a video of his ex-girlfriend bowing deeply when he arrives home, with dinner ready and laundry done, as an example of an ideal traditional greeting.

“this is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend... huge bow... she got my dinner ready”

QuoteBrian tells Ninay: if she won't take his last name without a huge negotiation, he will stop opening her car door and paying for dates immediately.

“pay for your own shit until we're married... I'm never going to protect you... you can do all that shit yourself”

OtherDestiny (chair 1) falls asleep during the show. Brian calls her out for being high and disrespectful. She had left/been asleep for a portion of the later discussion.

“she Rage Quit she went to sleep... she came in high to the studio totally disrespectful”

QuoteEric (Osop) gives detailed speech about why men's standards for women need to be higher: "Men will sacrifice their happiness for their family; women will sacrifice their family for their happiness."

“men will sacrifice their happiness for their family women will sacrifice their family for their happiness”

QuoteAndrew explains that every Whatever panel is asked the same questions across 70+ episodes, so not preparing is the panelist's own fault, not a setup.

“every single panel of women who comes in the same questions are asked of them every single one... 76 times I think”

QuoteBrian challenges the misogyny accusation by asking Destiny for a specific example; she says the show just has that reputation but cannot cite anything specific from tonight.

“what have I said that is misogynistic... it seems like you view women as objects”

QuoteBrian announces Whatever podcast will take a 3-6 week holiday break. Final two shows announced (Sunday and Tuesday of the following week).

“we're going on break for anywhere from 3 to 6 weeks... final two shows”

ControversyWinter does a second physical demo against Desmond (large security guard). She attempts a double-leg takedown; he barely moves. Demonstrates the even greater gap between a small woman and a large trained man.

“she just... oh my God... he just stand there... she nearly went into the table”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Status Round

Each guest introduces themselves with name, age, location, occupation. Brian then asks about college/education. Follows with a round of relationship statuses, longest relationships, who broke up with whom, and current dating situation. Peyton's situationship (on-off, no title), Winter's celibacy and 10-month man, Ninay's 5-year high school sweetheart, Lily's 6-month girlfriend and recent 3-date fumble are notable.

Luigi Mangione / CEO Assassin Attraction

Discussion of Luigi Mangione (UnitedHealthcare CEO killer) and why many women online were attracted to him. Brian shows CCTV footage, mugshots, and TikTok reactions of women simping. Panel discusses hybristophilia (sexual attraction to criminals). Andrew and Eric debate whether women enjoy violence inherently vs socially conditioned. Most of the panel would not date Luigi despite some finding him cute.

Male vs Female Violence & Dark Psychology

Continuation of violence topic. Andrew argues men innately enjoy violence as a survival mechanism; Eric counters that violence as spectacle is socialized not natural. Discussion of war monks, samurai, hunter instincts. Women's attraction to dominance and BDSM fantasies discussed. Panel agrees women have darker psychology than mainstream admits.

Krav Maga / Strength Difference Demonstration

Winter claims she could defend herself against a man with Krav Maga skills. Eric volunteers to demonstrate; Winter attempts a rear naked choke hold but Eric easily escapes. Winter then kicks Eric in the balls, sparking debate about real-world strength differentials. Andrew provides commentary. Later, Desmond (security guard) does a second demonstration showing even greater strength gap. Andrew's Crucible crew donates $1000 to Eric.

Self-Ratings (Looks Scale 1-10)

Gorlock the Destroyer (TTS donation) asks everyone to rate their looks. Most women say 10. Brian defines the scale: 1=ugly to 10=absolutely stunning. Discussion about whether every woman is a 10. Morgan gives herself a 7. Andrew gives himself a 9. Brian asks what makes them a 10 beyond looks. AI age-progression photos shown for laughs. Plastic surgery debate follows.

Standards, Hypergamy & Wage Gap

TTS question: should men step up or women lower standards? Most women say men should step up. Brian and Eric argue women's standards have inflated while their own value has decreased ("hoe-flation"). Minimum income expectations discussed ($40k-$1M range). Andrew's argument that men's motivation to earn is driven by women's mating pressure explains the wage gap. Discussion of controlled vs uncontrolled wage gap (1 cent after adjustments).

Chivalry, Traditional Dating & Modern Women

Ninay's Instagram bio as "female advocate" sparks discussion. Brian asks what women want from traditional dating (door-opening, paying, leading) and what they offer in return (cooking, cleaning, massage). Debate about whether women can simultaneously demand traditional treatment while rejecting traditional duties. Last-name debate with Ninay — she wants a conversation about keeping her name. Brian says traditional men won't tolerate the negotiation. Andrew uses "sassy flamboyant man" hypothetical to show double standard.

Women's Rights, Voting History & Abortion Debate

Ninay's female advocacy background leads to discussion about women's rights. Brian and Andrew use charts to show men and women received voting rights within ~20 years of each other and most of history had no universal suffrage. Abortion debate: Andrew cites 0.5% of abortions are from SA, 40% "not financially prepared." Brian raises male bodily autonomy (circumcision, selective service/draft). Ninay learns about the Selective Service card for the first time.

Race, Racism & Oppression Debate

Peyton says Black people cannot be racist (only prejudiced) because of power dynamics. Andrew and Brian challenge the "power + prejudice" definition, showing it would also mean women oppress men (less threatening = privileged). Eric adds nuance about systemic vs personal racism. Discussion of police violence stats (more white men killed by police than all women combined), college enrollment stats (Black women graduate at higher rates than white women). Peyton cannot definitively explain average white man's privilege over average Black woman.

Misogyny Accusation & Show Defense

Destiny and Peyton wrote "misogyny" as a show disagreement on their pre-show questionnaire. Brian challenges them to give specific examples. Peyton says she cannot remember the specific remark. Andrew points out all questions are asked to every panel across 70+ episodes and women could have prepared. Eric notes women hold preconceived notions based on clips without watching full episodes.

Age Gap Relationships & Commonality Debate

Is it wrong for a 30-year-old to date a 19-year-old? Most panelists say yes. Andrew argues men and women have almost nothing in common regardless of age gap and the "commonality" argument is weak. Debate about what age men would date down to. Winter says she would not date above 40 (she is 35). Ana says she would not put an age cap.

Roast Session, Super Chats & Wrap

Final super chats and TTS donations read. Bear vs Man question (most pick man). Viewers roast panelists. Andrew leaves the show. Makeup removal segment (some panelists take off lashes). Winter does second Krav Maga demo with Desmond (security guard). Body count reveals. Pegging discussion. Brian gives advice for men in modern dating (level up, meet in person, passport bro option). Show announced to go on 3-6 week break for the holidays. Final two shows announced for the following Sunday and Tuesday.

Body Count, Sex Timing & Relationship Dynamics

Discussion of whether body count matters. Panel's responses: Ana and others refuse to share. Winter says 3. Eric says under 60. Peyton explains why she makes guys she likes wait longer (doesn't want to lose them) but is quicker with casual encounters — Andrew calls this "faking virtue." Eric explains men's polygamous nature. How many times rejected vs rejecting. Ages when lost virginity (mostly 16-17). Peyton previously had OnlyFans with cute content only.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasyou up after the show you can tell me if it it's pretty good um three steps just three simple steps you had the second batch let's see the second batch uh make it make these big oh you

Destinylook good she classy photosh chck some mil okay nice next what the that that your did are dirty they did you do that

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Peytonnext okay uh this one is transforming us into different people little bit

Brian Atlasnext okay next whoa you look like Lord Voldemort in the right they definitely

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Brian Atlasdid Kiki dirty Kiki looks like a [ __ ] zombie grave monster [ __ ] okay

Brian Atlasnext wow what happened Morgan what the hell damn okay next wow you wow Ana looks really presidential she looks like she's

Brian Atlaslooking into the distance like it could be some like Ana Jackie oasa Ana 24 4 or some [ __ ] my like red because uh that's a good question I don't know uh is there

Brian Atlasanother one we got what do we got oh okay who is that all right why is he blind though he he's got like okay next that's it that's it okay all right that

Brian Atlasbe looking crazy all right uh we have uh let's see Hugo here the mor girl this is Russian or wait what is our dollar I don't know

Brian AtlasHugo thank you man uh the more girl says she's a 10 the more psychopath Psychopathic and insecure she is unfortunately do you guys want to respond to all the tens at the table I

Destinyfeel like no matter what number we say that's going to be their response fact yeah some people I don't know if you're like yeah I'm I'm like a seven I feel like most guys aren't going to that's

Brian Atlascuz that's what they think of themselves they're a seven so they're he's insecure project wait can I can I ask you a question let me ask you so um have

Brian Atlasyou ever seen a guy who's mid looks mid uh all the time all the time yeah and so like but you're able to make determinations when it comes to male

Brian Atlasattractiveness right yeah yeah and so um let's say you met a guy who you weren't physically attracted to but then he said well I'm a 10 would you then be attracted to him I would respect him for

Brian Atlashis confidence so would you then be attracted to him like you're not physically attracted to this guy at all but then he opens his mouth and he's like well I'm a and he says that [ __ ] with like some serious confidence and he

Destinybelieves it too are you all of a sudden attracted to him or no I feel like if his actions um also prove that he's a 10 yeah I could get

Brian Atlassome attraction grow some attraction towards that interesting okay oh we have two pictures uh Damian

Brian Atlasthere there's the Leonardo DiCaprio one and with the other guy it's like he's fine he was I don't know but now yo Hugo

Brian Atlasthank you for the uh what currency is this Hugo is it Brazilian Real is it wait hold on you g Bitcoin or some [ __ ] what is that r that Russian or accept

Brian Atlaswhat it's uh she is unable to accept I think it's Brazilian real or no but typic yeah it is Brazilian re it's the

Brian Atlaswhat is that like $3 hold on 100 to USD are you abusing my friend is he do you have it yeah all right you can go ahead

Brian Atlasand pull it up uh I'm just curious which one is more physically attractive Leo or Leon DiCaprio or uh Jonah is that his

Brian Atlasname Jonah wil right Leo Jonah Hill Jonah Hill Leo yeah Leo Leonardo Leo Leo Leo Leo okay uh and I think you need to

Brian Atlasgo back for the other picture I think it's one back which one's more attractive the girl on the left or the girl on the

Destinyright probably everyone will think the um what do you think okay the one on the left okay just cuz her outfit I what about

Brian Atlasyou oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait just because her outfit yeah that's fair picture them naked and then tell

Peytonus I don't where did y find it I don't like this comparison yeah this is like the worst looking black person I've ever seen in my life tellur you can't this photo the lighting is off she looks

Wintercrazy hold on uh which one's more attractive the left okay I think anyone who wouldn't say the person on the left

Andrew Wilsonwould be a liar I mean I kind of want to decline to answer because I can't see like that right we can't even really see her what really them really their

Andrew Wilsonmaybe she's just really racism right there can't really even see okay all right so you can't pick one I feel like this isn't a fair

Ninaycomparison what do you mean how's it not a fair comparison like there's like Dark Shadows we can't really see her face there two different types of women in size and style and how they're dressing yeah that's the nature of comparisons

Ninayyou're comparing people compare you did prior were two white males who in the same age range they look both aged differently come from two different backgrounds as well dress similarly like

Andrew Wilsonthey not compar what world does that have to do with anything um because I feel what does that have to do with anything the comparison is just asking which one's more attractive has nothing to do with anything else just the the

Andrew Wilsonquestion is which one of these women is more conventionally attractive from your view that's all that's asking we know the question to answer because my do you know the question because it seems like you don't know the question question is

Peytona setup the question is a set up the question is a setup how's op because you're going to pick the worst the worst picture of a very dark skinned woman and put her next to put next you want me to

Lilyfind a white woman I yeah two white girls yeah do that two white women do that make more about race it has nothing to do with race I could find unattractive white women too okay find

Eric (Osop)two two actresses that like that are in the same place you compare that picture to the previous one just two different it's like Jonah Hill and homie they don't look alike but they're similar in

Andrew Wilsonclass they're similar in earning the second picture like a homeless person sounds racist to me the other the the option of just asking which one of these women is more conventionally attractive from your view I don't understand what

Ninaythat has to do with race except that you want to see race in it there's other factors outside of race with the same thing stating that the two men were in the same area they're both you know same age range they're dressed the same

Ninaythey're coming to the same style for a re the other two women looked like they were dressed differently supposed to be in two different places maybe you know one was like a I don't understand what any of this has to do with the question of which one do you find more

Andrew Wilsonconventionally attractive because the question is a setup yeah what's the setup what's the setup to get us to call the girl ugly no you that's not what was asked did anybody say he had to call anybody

Andrew Wilsonugly yeah you don't have to call anybody ugly saying they're less conventionally attractive is calling them ugly okay but why were you guys so quick to do it so okay so you could you could never say that one woman was more attractive than another because you'd be calling the one

Peytonwoman ugly not just saying the one was more attractive we don't want to say she's ugly we nobody asked you to say that she's ugly who asked you to say she's ugly you guys did when youall asked that question y'all said who is less conventionally attractive that

Andrew Wilsonmeans who is uglier yeah it's what no it's asking which one's more attractive so you can have two really good-looking people one could be more attractive than the other right yes most definitely we okay well then if that's the case then the logic

Andrew Wilsonwouldn't follow that because you say one's more conventionally attractive than the other you're calling the other one ugly that would make no sense that doesn't I think it makes a lot of sense in my head I think what they're trying to

Andrew Wilsonexpress realm of has no logic I guess but it makes no sense you say there's two good-looking people you find one more attractive than the other that's not calling the other good-looking person ugly I think based on the history

Eric (Osop)of racial comparison in this country that the average person who you know can take that as racist cuz you got the most ugliest non-attractive black woman who's

Eric (Osop)out of shape that fits a lot of stereotypes of being out of shape you know overweight compared to I'm just telling you how people think you don't have to like it but this is America so when you do that after you take Jonah

Eric (Osop)Hill and Leonard decaprio and then you take this real homely looking overweight typical looking underprivileged black woman next to this ptin slim white woman the average person could see some type

Eric (Osop)of you know what I mean everybody not going to take is is cut and dry like y you can't act like you can't you can't understand why somebody will say by the way she's Australian Aboriginal I have no idea what it has to do with race you're just asking which one's more conventionally attractive that's that's

Andrew Wilsonthere in Australia not saying it does but I can see how somebody can ticket that way but you can see how somebody can tiet that way plent of people that's going to watch his back and take it that way people can take all sort of bizarre things want but it has nothing to do

Destinywith what's actually being asked yeah it has nothing to do with race right then find a photo of um what you said you were going to find yeah but then if we do that you're making it about race no you just say yeah you guys are

Andrew Wilsonmaking it about raay yeah if if you tell Brian that you'll only rage if it's two white women you're actually making it about race not Brian why shouldn't we make maybe she wasn't so far unattractive well should

Andrew WilsonI'm just telling you how people can perceive it I'm not saying you right or they wrong or it's just perception sure that's funny yeah but if you if you say why shouldn't we make it about race that's fair but then you could never criticize Brian if you thought he was

Andrew Wilsonmaking it about race right I didn't think it was only about race I also thought it was about body size as well so isn't that a component of physical compar comparison of physical attractiveness I would think I mean

PeytonJonah Hill is chubbier than Leonardo DiCaprio but what my thing is Jonah Hill some people find Jonah Hill attractive outside of us I feel like you picked the picture of somebody that most people

Brian Atlaswill probably never find attractive and oh so just to be clear so it's easier for you to make a determination when it comes to Jonah Hill where there's less of a discrepancy in physical appearance between him and Leonardo DiCaprio but

Brian Atlaswhen it's evidently clear that the woman on the right is clearly less attractive than the woman on the left then you can't make the determination yes because it's more the affirmative statement how is it unfair it's just we just explained it we just explained it back to back to

Brian Atlasback why it's unfair why it's a set up and why we don't want to answer that question or could I don't actually understand the explanation of course you don't down for me again no or or is it just actually a uh

Brian Atlasessentially a capitulation that you guys are actually sexist then no oh so it's easier for you guys to judge men but when it comes to appraisals of women's looks then there's a bigger issue no

Brian Atlaswell you basically compare two actors two famous actors what does that have to do with anything because people are going to find them attractive no matter what for reasons besides looks yeah they

Andrew Wilsongot money they both Rich they I know some girls who sayah attrative man at all Jonah is not some women out there that will go for Jonah over Leonardo you're saying

Brian Atlasthat there's nobody who will go for this woman here how about let's go around the table actually we already did all of you said leard decaprio is more one group of women we don't represent all women out in the world what how you think it's 99%

Peytonof women pick Leonardo over Jonah Hill 99 no I would say like I think it would be 80% Leonardo 20% Jonah Hill one out of five women picks Jonah Hill over

Eric (Osop)Leonardo DiCaprio I think so yes Jonah Hill still has something to to gain attraction outside of his looks exactly that woman don't have nothing besid looks well I don't know how much she make but she don't look like besides

Andrew Wilsonlooks I don't think she can get anybody a lot of cope happening right now yeah there there seems to I I don't really understand there's no um if you're going to make a comparison on just conventional looks then the idea that uh

Andrew Wilsonit needs to have some type of racial stereotype to it is bizarre to me it doesn't even make any sense that seems like it's some sort of bizarre internal projection or something like this has nothing to do with comparing the attractiveness level of two people

Andrew Wilsonregardless of who Brian put up whatever two human beings he put up he should be able to make a determination on conventional attractiveness I don't understand why the race would have anything to do with anything but it's not just the race car

Ninayas we brought up earlier you put up two men within the same what how would you say say standard yeah yeah Status

Andrew Wilsonstandard that look same too like the two women you put up were very different in other okay so then let's do this I'm in no way have the same status as Jonah Hill couldn't you make a comparison

Andrew Wilsonbetween hang on hang on couldn't you make a comparison right now between myself and Leonardo Dicaprio and say which one's more attractive and it would be Leonardo DiCaprio right your wife what your wife think yeah see so your so

Andrew Wilsonit is a racial component the whole idea here is for you for some reason the race makes some difference we said what would your wife think would your wife think that Leonardo DiCaprio was more

Andrew Wilsonattractive than you possibly and and the thing is though is like uh who why would why would that even be improper to make that assessment do you think that people don't have

Andrew Wilsoneyeballs or that they can't be honest but would you want your wife to think that you're the most don't want to risk offence like that seems silly to me wouldn't you want your wife to think you're the most attractive man you know thing is is like don't you want to also

Andrew Wilsonlive in reality like do do do you think I want my wife to lie to me do you think that I can't clearly see that there's more attractive men than me conventionally and that I would know that since she has eyeballs she would also understand that it's like why why

Andrew Wilsondo you think it would be some sort of great grace to me if she lied to me in fact in many ways that would be detrimental you know what I mean now is there a good etiquette and not like drooling over other people when you're

Andrew Wilsonwith your spouse well of course right of course that's good etiquette but it has nothing to do with the idea that you can't object L assess a beauty standard of another human being that doesn't mean you're going to go have sex with them or

Andrew Wilsonanything like that has nothing to do with that okay so so I don't really understand I don't really understand on on this you're just asking about the conventional attractiveness I I don't I

Brian Atlasdon't even see why the racial component matters how about we compare two girls that look a little more similar I'm trying to find one honestly but it's uh although that wouldn't that just be kind

Brian Atlasof like giving into the the uh race thing I guess it would be putting it on an even playing field like the Jon I mean I'm literally trying to scroll I'm trying to find like okay it has to be in

Brian Atlasthe same like okay so I was trying to find like grmy two women at the I have another one that I don't think you guys are going to enjoy I guess but you know

Brian AtlasDamien decided to um I kind of think the girl in the middle not going to lie like the girl in the middle I love I love

Ninaysersey in a building you know maybe uh I think this perfect is this is this good I don't know is this okay I don't know this is better this is better I'm going pick s also too just the same thing with

Ninaythe men like I know these are celebrities so I have a background behind them already that I have I feel some type of way about them or I have an opinion based on already opposed to the other two women that I didn't know at

Ninayall you know and then Jonah Hill and Leonard Di Caprio I've known they're actors they're famous so face wise who's the best SI face feel face card only

Brian Atlasdoes have a lot this picture face is nice Taylor's head is kind of turned to the side yeah and S isn't in the best position so we're just going off face lizo got a pretty face she just got

Eric (Osop)little she has a pretty face look at that smile too much eyes Shadow though you know I'm not a fan in the shape but she ain't ugly in the face she's lost a lot more weight now too way to go think there

Eric (Osop)gorgeous Taylor was dressed the best I'll give her the best dress we couldn't even see her tayor also has the most money so oh absolutely yeah I thought you guys don't care about that I don't

Brian Atlasthought don't care about success got billionaires get a pass right billionaires get a pass um all right uh techn Trooper we have him

Brian Atlascoming in uh Ana can you read it how dating apps reinforce

Brian Atlasreinforce a culture where 10% of men receive the majority of attention how how do dating apps reinforce a culture of that I mean I'm confused I mean it's always been the

Brian Atlascase that like the hypergamous nature of women right but like it's been under uh it's it's much more pronounced because of the global sexual marketplace with

Brian Atlassocial media Instagram and dating apps uh where you know if you were limited to your geographic region people would typically pair off one to one but now

Brian Atlaswomen have access to like average woman in Idaho can hop on a dating app or Instagram and get you know maybe not average but if she's like really good-looking in Idaho she can get flown

Brian Atlasout to LA Miami Vegas some dude out there so totally changes it um yeah techn trooper I do appreciate the message though we have Hugo here cope

Brian Atlasand he says they need to find a way to excuse It's just Beauty G's bringing to race is being racist yo Hugo thank you for the the uh super chats do appreciate it uh we need to get into the pre-show

Brian Atlasnotes here move things along a little bit we have uh we talked about the Luigi [ __ ] we have uh

Brian Atlasninay that's you right hi in your uh Instagram bio it says there's flower Fe there's a flower emoji and

Brian Atlasthen like a fart cloud MH or a cloud of smoke smoke smoke flowers flower and female Advocate and you're a and a

Ninayfemale Advocate what is that what is a female advocate so I stand for um like women's rights and passing cannabis and its healing benefits so no so ignoring the flower part I'm

Ninayjust the female you just want to talk about the female part the female Advocate Part what do you mean mhm like speaking so um I started like a Blog that teaches women like safety aspects and things to look for to protect

Ninaythemselves or certain like stigmas too that are um becoming a norm that women feel they're supposed to be subjectified or like looked at perceived this way or

Ninayum you know what ways in like I don't know like being taught like certain things happen you are okay and it might not be like being talked down to or things like but who

Ninaythinks talking down to women is okay A lot of people do in the South and coming from culture too like women were put down yeah women were put down and like if you have more than two daughters like

Andrew Wilsonone of them gets killed because they want to keep the ratio of women down yeah in China for like who does that today in Asian culture yeah growing up that's true she I mean she's right it's

Lily100% true in China in the one child policy they favored men crazy yeah yeah and I know men still talk down upon girls cuz I was talking to a guy once and he is just like coming to a

Eric (Osop)conclusion that all girls are broke and all girls are stupid I mean a lot of women think all men need to do better and you know what I'm saying like I think that's just a people thing I don't think it's a female male thing I think a

Eric (Osop)lot of women say every day how you had women saying you can't take me to Cheesecake [ __ ] Factory you know what I'm saying so women talk down to men a lot so I I don't I don't think that's just something that happens to women I

Eric (Osop)think more women are talking down to men than it is men talking down to women I think the men that are talking down is in response to years of being talked down by this the women in society I think it's the other way around I feel

Ninaylike women are finally now after being talked down for so long are now like cuz women's rights and everything that's been a new thing from like the 1900s that were like brought into and we're still fighting for a lot of our rights

Ninaywhich rights are those uh our right to vote start we didn't get hold on hold on hold on one let's do one at a time uh so okay right to vote mhm women secured the right to the vote

Ninayin the 1920s that's over a century ago I know but how long have we as humans been alive and women weren't allowed to how long have men been allowed to vote why don't you tell me what that is since they started it I believe they started

Ninaysince the voted men men were only given the right to vote years before wom as gender men or women um who started the right to vote who decided okay voting is going to be a thing people in power well

Andrew Wilsoninitially who were I'll explain it to you you didn't think they were Queens so in initially the way that the nation was set up as a republic was not that people were supposed to be voting at all right

Andrew Wilsonso that that wasn't how it was set up there was no universal suffrage men only got the right to vote about 20 years before women roughly and that was only in some select places so it was never universalized to men or women so the the

Andrew Wilsonidea that women have been conventionally oppressed over men is silly the the nation wasn't set up that way it was set up instead where your officials would actually do voting that was that was the

Ninayway it was supposed to be sh but they are all men yeah at that time who were allowed to be a selected officials white men well well hang on you say men but it's actually you're actually incorrect

Andrew Wilsonthere too it couldn't be any man it would have to be a select so in this case usually it was people who were stakeholders they were landholders or this type of thing they had to have select characteristics so it wasn't just

Andrew Wilsonmen when you say men you put them in a monolith almost no man has ever had power in history almost almost none almost zero a lot of men it's a small group of men I mean as compared to males

Eric (Osop)but most men don't have power it's just that seat of power is often set by a man but that doesn't mean that's theor we have we have a chart here actually if you can go ahead and pull that up uh so

Brian Atlasthis is countries with universal right to vote uh this does not consider elections not being held in formal restrictions or legal restrictions based on age criminal conviction disability

Brian Atlasand local residency so uh at the bottom there you have the year and they're tracking this back to the late

Brian Atlas1700s uh Brown indicates no Universal right to vote light blue indicates Universal right to vote for men only and the blue is universal right to vote for

Brian Atlasmen and women there's a very very short period of time in history where only men had the right to vote for the M vast majority of history when we're talking about the general populace men did not

Andrew Wilsonhave the right to vote and one thing essentially essentially none the idea of the elongated female oppression Olympics is nonsense a 50-year gap yeah can I see the chart

Peytonagain sure cuz he said it's only been 20 or 30 years but that's like well it depends on the the world he talking about America no no no he said 20 to 50 years I mean 20 to 30 years between men and women in America yeah in the United

Eric (Osop)States oh this is universal okay okay but one thing I've noticed with women is like y'all will talk about the right to do something but you don't you're not thorough with that right for example

Eric (Osop)right it seems like women just want to participate just for the just to say that we can do it too but when it comes to exercising the thoroughness of that right they don't do it so in other words you ask a man why he voted for something

Eric (Osop)he'll break down legislature he'll break down policy when you ask a woman why does she vote it's for something very superficial so a lot of women seem like they they fight for certain rights but

Eric (Osop)just to say they have them not being a active participant in the uh thoroughness of the responsibility it's like they just want a participation trophy just to say it's like when you got a kid that just want to play with

Eric (Osop)you you give your kid your kid so you on a cell phone so you give them a cell phone with no battery just so they can feel like they on the phone but but they really ain't talking or calling nobody it's like advocating like and I don't think there's anything wrong with women I'm talk voting like voting like most

Eric (Osop)women when they vote they don't never know want abortion but I think that's a lot of people a lot of America and a lot of the world isn't educated to know holy what no you're you're right but it seems like more men are cuz like and it seems

Eric (Osop)like men when men are speaking about voting they're speaking about something that benefits the many it seems like women get involved in voting strictly for the benefits of women only so to me

Eric (Osop)if you're getting into these positions just to focus on one gender that's not even a leadership attribute cuz a leader looks after the whole it seem like when women get power they look after women I don't and I think that's probably why

Eric (Osop)they was prohibited from a lot of things because y'all just see your side and your gender you don't look at the group like even for example right I don't mean to talk too much but there was a um ice cube was on a show called cocktails with

Eric (Osop)the Queens it was Viva Fox there was I think Selena Johnson Lisa Ray and like another woman so this was around a time when Biden and Trump was going at it a couple years ago so IQ was contacted by

Eric (Osop)two political parties he said the Democrats um contacted me cuz isce made a plan called the uh plan for Black America so he said the Democrat said said we'll help you with your plan after we get in office he said Trump and the

Eric (Osop)Republicans reached out to him and said hey we want to implement your plan now so when he was speaking this to black women he was saying hey this is a plan for black people and and black people includes black men black women black

Eric (Osop)boys black girls but the black women on the show say hey that sounds good but what's in it for us so the fact that a man is saying I'm getting legisl legislation pushed for black people and

Eric (Osop)women heard that and still distinguish thems from the group to focus solely on themselves to me speaks to a pathology where women when they get a taste of power they're not thinking about the many they're just thinking about

Peytonthemselves yeah because we live in a patriarchal society where we're already way more oppressed than men how you oppressed you're able to do whatever the hell you want to do we got to we got to take one thing at a time let's bring it

Brian Atlasback we'll get into the patriarchy we'll get into the oppression um you said that you're in the female advocacy so you said uh women's right to or I'm trying to remember the we started with the

Brian Atlasright to vote and then now coming on right you spoke on education okay okay oh education so do you realize that like when it comes to college education there's like I think the breakdown is

Brian Atlas60% women 40% men so is this evidence of Oppression towards men this is a now thing these are things no it's been since the 1980s but prior to that women women have surpassed men when it comes to cuz you gave us the opportunity we

Brian Atlasran with it we're like okay now we just to be clear so is your position when there's a discrepancy and this discrepancy negatively impacts women in

Brian Atlassome conceivable way or there's uh less representation of women in a field or in some beneficial uh metric that's evidence of sexism patriarchy um

Brian Atlasoppression but when men are either over representative o over represented in a negative component or under repesentative in like a positive feel uh

Ninaysense then that's just uh not sexism not oppression oppression is when it's forced against somebody and it's like what's forced or it's like it's stated like they're not allowed to do this or

Ninayyou can't do that or not allowing somebody to be yeah women have been allowed to go to these and that's why now we're doing so great really like a lot of women he just said 60% of women are just you schol you're doing great

Peytonthere women that graduate thing that is great though don't don't statistics show that like women graduate more than men and women are more educated than CDL I'm talking about I'm talking about

Eric (Osop)demographics not just knowing one person but what I'm saying is this statist graduating doesn't equate to success I know people have to some people it depends on what you went to school for

Eric (Osop)if you go to school for a bachelor's degree in African-American studies you're going to make more less money than a dude with a GED and a CDL so women leaning on getting a degree to me speaks to a participation trophy you

Eric (Osop)judge a tree by the fruited bed if if you got a degree and you making 100,000 great but if you don't got a degree and you making 100,000 that's great too so getting a degree doesn't mean anything if it hasn't prop your life it's another topic though most women get degrees can

Brian Atlasyou pull up pull up the Discord you're going to click on the first college one all right uh percentage of US population have completed four years of college or more from 1940 to 2021 so that uh the

Brian Atlaschange occurred wait hold on uh percent wait hold on uh uh looks like it's going oh who have completed okay so this isn't like on a yearly

Brian Atlasbasis this is like in totality so it's counting people who graduated in like 1940 um there's a different graph that'll show that'll indicate starting in 1980 there were more women starting

Brian Atlasin about 1980 that started going to college than men um pull up the next graph you can just use the arrows uh us college degrees by gender so female 58 male 41 next

Brian Atlasuh this is enrollment so looking at um uh 2014 is the most recent one for this one 7.5 million males 9 so 2 million more females back in 2014 that number is

Brian Atlaseven higher where there's a bigger difference uh massive us College oh what US College enrollment by gender so yeah you do see the flip In 1980 this is on a yearly

Brian Atlasbasis next men women stud different things this is kind of important uh next total number of students oh this is

Brian Atlasfor the local University UCSB um women 6 I think it's the local un University 61% here in Santa Barbara

Brian Atlas39% men next percentage of all college degrees 1980 uh 1981 was the switch next women have gone a show to done

Brian Atlasbetter in school than men and these are this is for the University of California system UC so this is the gender ratios blue is male red is female with the exception of uh the University of

Brian AtlasCalifornia Santa Cruz uh or no sorry there's also or wait UCSD also slightly more but you have uh pretty big discrepancies there uh so education I

Andrew Wilsonmean women are doing fine when it comes to education do you want to talk about body rights huh do you want to talk about our rights and the laws being put against sure let's talk yeah what so what rights does a man well can I uh can I just very quickly also tell you that

Andrew Wilsonwomen have always conventionally done better academically than men since we've been keeping tabs on it since the late 1700s that has been the case they've always academically done better but let me explain to you why that is it's

Andrew Wilsonbecause right now about 90% of women who are in women's studies get A's right but if you move them into like a mathematic pursuit or something like this drops

Andrew Wilsondown to about 40 45% who get AED because so essentially when you're talking about soft Sciences psychology sociology the humanities things like this these are

Andrew Wilsonall Arts degrees and so it's far easier to get graded well inside of those uh types of degrees whereas if you're in a Pursuit which requires some type of

Andrew Wilsonactual scientific rigorism it's much more difficult and so that's why you see a lot of that discrepancy so um going back to the rights uh I guess my question is what is

Ninaya right that a man has that a woman doesn't in the United States States [Music] today you know I haven't looked deep into laws like that I can't State one but I don't I do believe they don't have

Brian Atlasone against their body saying you can't do certain things with your body I mean hold on hold on hold on hold on you're you're a female Advocate okay I mean but you haven't done the research on the type of

Ninayadvocacy you're trying to do no I have like you know stayed up with like the laws and things like that but nothing recently that's been passed stating that men can't can't do or can't use their body in certain

Brian Atlasways no so the qu I'm just asking so what is a right that a man has because you said women's rights well what is the right in which uh that you're trying to equalize not trying to equalize one

Brian Atlaswe're talking about we brought it back to abortion law is correct oh okay okay so that's the only one that was the one when it comes to right so you're is your

Brian Atlasposition uh men have bodily autonomy women don't is that your position

Ninayum no not that I've like heard about men and like what they're what they're not allowed to do with their with their body I'm I'm can you

NinayI'm trying to understand I'm focusing on when I brought abortion I'm stating how um what did what was the word we used earli year advocacy um no that's not the word I'm thinking of um B autonomy no

Ninaynow you guys are just throwing words at me me and confusing me um when when you're not allowed to do something right or right

Ninayum I can't think of the word I'm blinking out right a Prohibition no you guys are just throwing words at me now just making okay we'll be here we'll be quiet for 10 seconds no we're good the 10 seconds we'll give you 10 seconds without any

NinayInterruption stating that like you know how what is a man to say what a woman's allowed to do with her body what what do you outside of abortion what what are you talking about no that's what that's what I was talking about you can okay so I'm happy to have that conversation but

Brian Atlasis there aside from that is there any right that the man has the woman doesn't not that I can think of the top of my head do you okay you can't think of it but do you do you think that there

Brian Atlasis or is that the only thing and that a man has a right to do that a woman doesn't no is there a right that a man

Brian Atlashas that a woman doesn't aside from that here in the US yes no okay so I can think of when it to Reproductive Rights

Brian Atlasuh that's that has to do with B autonomy yeah well I mean doing a comparison when it comes to B autonomy although these are like somewhat different uh men also

Brian Atlasalthough this is completely different uh you're talking about abortion right uh from the government down when it comes to b b autonomy uh there's forced military conscription which women are

Brian Atlasexempt from so there's actually a more compelling argument that men are oppressed under uh the purview of the state or the government when it comes to bodly autonomy and also because there's no law preventing for example circumcision there's a much greater

Brian Atlasargument when it comes to male bodily autonomy because children don't have the capacity to deny when their their single mom is giving birth to them in the hospital and the single mom wants to have their child circumcised the child

Ninaycan't protect so there ought to be some sort of law that prevents children from getting ccum there should be against men as there is women what do you mean like that there should be laws regarding just with women's bodies as well as men's

Brian Atlasbodies what they're allowed to do well I'm I'm saying that you know there's there's when it comes to Bly autonomy the state actually has uh there's arguably more pression towards men when it comes to bodily autonomy because

Brian Atlasnobody's forcing you to have sex and get pregnant facts I mean what if they were like raped yeah sure so how about this let's yeah so very Okay cool so if if

Brian AtlasI'm prepared to say that abortion is totally cool in the in the event of incest rape oh [ __ ] grape sorry my bad grape or um the life of the mother you

Brian Atlasguys are totally 100% against all other abortions one more time Reckless Behavior okay so absolutely some women get graped or uh there's incest or

Brian Atlaswhatever or perhaps the life of the mother is at risk and uh if I if I'm going to go ahead and say Yes abortion in those instances is totally okay are you guys prepared to agree that it's wrong all the other

Brian Atlasinstances no okay so and you do realize that like when it does come to abortion most of these women are using uh are getting abortions for basically like as birth control like they're having

Peytonconsentual hold on no it's the 99% of abortions how do you know how do you know most women are getting pregnant from getting graved I okay first of all there's statistics that prove that we Y and then I believe there's let's be

Eric (Osop)clear now so you telling me that most women who get abortions oh no no no I'm not saying most women that get abor I'm not say I'm just saying there's a lot of I'm saying but most women that get abortions they're not getting getting

Ninaythem because they were graped they're getting him because they don't want to be tied to that man but it's that's not necessarily true there's other reason like the body right the health and the life of the woman we establish a graph

Ninaywe pulled up for school there's a graph for percentages on how many women did get graped how many women did get you know the health Wellness of the body here's the here's the stat who knows the okay yeah let's p

Andrew Wilson0.5% W that what's the stat for that like what is that I just told you 0.5% who are victims of grape and that's reported yeah that's reported cuz there's a lot that's not reported not

Andrew Wilsonall women who end up preg hang on hang on when you do it when you do it when you do a study for self-reporting you add in the control that there's going to be un unreported amounts of XS so

Andrew Wilsonthey're adjusting for how many people are not reporting to come up with this number it's actually way less people than 0.5% who reported it due to Grape the reason it raises that high is

Peytonbecause they're adjusting for the amount who have not reported who are estimated to have reported based on the number who have that's AOL okay if somebody just wants to get an abortion because they don't want to have a baby because of what they're doing in their life right now I feel like that's completely okay

Andrew Wilsonlike I'm just going to give you the rest of the percentages woman's life was endangered it's zero 0.27% there was a serious fetal abnormality it's 1% woman's phys physical health threatened by the

Andrew Wilsonpregnancy 1% that's it that's the entirety the entirety of all of these pregnancies you're talking about so you saying 98% of them don't fall within that category

Andrew Wilsonthat's a that's a huge discrepancy but in any case we were talking about rights and so number one hang on number one reason not financially prepared okay 40% not a good time 36% issues with the

Andrew Wilsonpartner 31% need to focus on other children 29% almost none of it is in regards to the and Welfare the but what percent of that is also like partnered right like the woman's just not making

Eric (Osop)that decision on her own to go most of them are because I know more women if a put like this if y'all got pregnant and if you didn't want to keep it can that man convince you to keep it maybe if it's a good partner but most of the time

PeytonI'm saying but if it was a good partner you would you wouldn't think about can't say most of the time majority of the time going based off women that you know because that is not an accurate representation of like the large majority we just got the so how many

Eric (Osop)women you know got pregnant from getting G exactly I'm not going to share that but I'm just cuz you don't cuz you know you you you know that ain't what's happening I definitely know a friend that got assaulted pregnant and got an

Andrew Wilsonabortion but okay just so just so you know the stats also say that most women who are s and this is tra nobody's saying that this isn't horrific it is it's horrific and I hope that those men get punished greatly thrown in prison

Andrew Wilsonforever or given the electric chair I'm fine with all of those options but most women who are sa do actually end up having the baby just so you know most of them do so the thing by their own choice

Andrew Wilsoninterestingly enough the amount of women who seek out aort of services for sa is extraordinarily small like I said 0.5% by reports and look going back to the thing we were talking about rights I'm not really super interested in going

Brian Atlaslike heavy into like some sort of abortion discussion but uh we were talking about rights and so while I already went ahead and granted like in those situations sure

Brian Atlasokay go ahead get an abortion but like most of these women are not getting abortions for those reasons so it's not clear to me like it's just irresponsibility or whatever it is well don't you so you're saying oh but so the

Brian Atlasgovernment here's the thing the government isn't forcing you to have sex and to get pregnant whereas when it comes to male bodily autonomy issues uh while the government doesn't Force

Brian Atlashospitals to do circumcisions uh this is sort of like the de facto the status quo when it comes to like children uh male boys babies in hospitals uh yeah without their informed consent they have their

Brian Atlaspenises mtil mutilated on upon birth I would suspect actually most of the women here at this table uh if you were ever to become like pregnant and the father wasn't involved you would probably end up circumcising translation mutilating

Brian Atlasthe genitals of your baby boy that's a whole another thing uh secondly when it comes to forced military conscription that is State down so the state can force you to go to war and die or you

Brian Atlasknow be in some sort of military conflict that you have no interest in being a part of that you didn't contribute at all to 18-year-old guy in Kentucky I think they have that for

Ninaywomen now say women go to trust me I'm 100% sure about that that like so women can't get where your Selective Service card

Andrew Wilsonokay fair this hang on this is tot Fair can I see this is a totally fair thing to say you said you had one that's why I was like I don't know what that is I want single question

Andrew Wilsonraise your hand if you have a driver's license okay great yeah okay when you went down and you got your driver's license at the DMV did they ask you if

Andrew Wilsonyou want to register to vote mhm yep did they sign you up for the selective Services no was it the way that I know that they didn't sign you up for the selective Services is because men cannot

Ninaysign up to vote unless they sign up for the selective Services simple interesting I do have learn something new every day that's

Brian Atlasinteresting I don't know well here I can show you this so um this is a uh you can handle this that's crazy yeah you can get this at the post office it's a

Brian Atlasselective service at the top you see how it says men 18 to 25 here I'll put it to the maybe we can do it like this hold on we'll go here boom men 18 to 25 and then

Brian Atlasif you open up there is here that's the uh registration

Brian Atlasthere um and I'll read the card it says uh who has to I think it says who has to so can I register one just one

Brian Atlassec um where does it say it uh what happens if I don't register not registering is a felony young men convicted of failure to

Brian Atlasregister may be fined up to $250,000 imprisoned for up to 5 years or both in addition to being subject to prosecution failure to register may cause you to permanently forfeit eligibility for

Ninaycertain benefits you have a question so as we're speaking on like women's rights and what we fight for right if you don't agree with that why don't you guys fight for

Andrew Wilsonthe opposite of it well well because we have a problem right so here's here's here's our problem the problem is in our quest for egalitarianism we forgot that there's only some roles that one sex can

Andrew Wilsondo and that the other can't for instance women can have children and men can't that's a that's just a brute fact that no nobody can do anything about and only men can fight in Frontline combat and

Andrew Wilsonwomen really can't do that we don't have any GI JS we don't have any female Navy Seals we don't have any because even though it's been open to them for many many many years they can't actually cut

Andrew Wilsonthe mustard to do it they are not equipped phys physically to take on those roles but we do need to have a military we need to have Frontline combat soldiers if we need them in case our country gets invaded and we may have

Andrew Wilsonto take those out of the pool of people who are particularly unwilling but know that it is part of their Duty and so because of that we don't really have an option to tell men ultimately that they

Andrew Wilsoncan't be drafted because we won't have a nation it would weaken our nation so significantly that we may not even have one so the thing is is that this is a higher Duty that men have so the higher

Andrew WilsonDuty that women have where is it giving birth like you stated that ah giving birth so then that would say that there's some Duty there if there's a duty there for me if I get drafted to go fight how come there's no Duty for you

Andrew Wilsonif you get pregnant to have the child only a thing you can do it's only a thing you can do and I can't but yet here's the thing only I can do and you can't yet I would be required to go

Andrew Wilsonwhere's your requirement don't men get like rewarded for going to war and stuff like that like here's they get shot they shot that's

Andrew Wilsonreward they get shot they get blown to bits they get Tor CS horrible things happen to they have massive psychological damage for life that's what happens by the way by the way here's

Andrew Wilsonwhat the nation often does if they need you bad enough for war they'll conscript you with no pay if they can't afford to pay you sometimes you'll go 8 months without a paycheck and your family suffers for it yes men definitely get the raw into the state when it comes to

Eric (Osop)being drafted it's a higher Duty we have to follow that higher Duty where's your higher Duty what is it can I can I ask add something to that cuz he's right but you notice how when we provide you

Eric (Osop)actual data of what happens you go and find the minority of what contradicts what we say but when it comes to women you find a minority and make that the majority of what we're saying it's like

Eric (Osop)whatever we say you go to the other side it's like do no we just gave you hold on we just gave you a chart from the data cuz you said bring up the data we brought it less than

Eric (Osop)1% of the population of women did these things based on being assaulted most men a lot of men die in the Army but you want to avoid all those men that die just to focus on the ones that don't

Eric (Osop)just to win an argument that's why I feel like a lot of times in this position women have been sold a false image and they call it feminism but it's really them dumbing down your natural ability and power of being feminine to

Eric (Osop)really compare yourself to men so it's like it's not really a feminist thing they're trying to they devalue what's powerful to you which is the ability to have children the ability to be a supporter that's powerful but women have been tricked to thinking that the only

Eric (Osop)way to express power enforce is by being a man I think we just found other ways to enforce our power and also like what y'all brought up school you brought up you brought up masculine things like

Eric (Osop)what's something masculine I mean knowledge is very Universal yeah it depend on what you do it but if you use a knowledge to focus on yourself knowledge is only Power when you use it to help the many what do women do that besides giving birth because besid it's

Eric (Osop)a lot of cuz a put like this a man doesn't have to have he can have his value goes beyond being somebody's mate a man could be single his whole life but works in a field that powers houses for hundreds of people that works in certain

Ninayfields that affect hundreds of thousands history we know there there's always an anomaly we talking about what happens most of the time I mean majority there's working class like if you're saying levels right there's working class men

Eric (Osop)there's working class women there's people who have done extraordinary things that are both men and women we understand that b we we we we got all the data we did a chart we showed a chart all these hard jobs that the

Eric (Osop)infrastructure of society is dependent on 94 to 99% of them were done by men so men have a value to the world outside of being with the woman so outside of

Eric (Osop)giving birth and for the most cases what do most women do that benefit the many like like the jobs y'all got do they benefit others besides yourself yeah taking care of the old taking care of

Ninaythe elderly in right in Village time and like before modernization men would go hunt gather Farm but I'm talking about today the women would stay and take care of the place watch security which most women don't want to do no more yeah

Peytonwhich most women don't want to do no more if most women didn't want to do it then I feel like it would be way more kids in foster care and Foster homes there's a lot of kids in Foster and there is and there is I know okay and I know that but I'm saying like how how can you say most women aren't doing that

Andrew Wilsonand women are still because women literally fought for the right to not do that that they right to be like they don't want to be house few there's a few things here that that are actually

Andrew Wilsonincorrect suppositions so the thing is is that for one thing all 100% of children who are given up for adoption

Andrew Wilsonat Birth in the United States are adopted 100% all of them every single one of them but like and there's actually a waiting list there's actually a waiting list that's a mile long for

Andrew Wilsonpeople who want to adopt more children so that's one the the idea here though is that actually women are having less and less children because they factor in education during their reproductive years which is going to be in their 20s

Andrew Wilsonroughly that's their primary reproductive years and so if they if you focus on education during those years you end up with less children women are getting married now in their 30s well the average age is 31 in fact that's

Andrew Wilsongoing to limit the amount of children necessarily that the average woman is going to have which is why we have 1.6 children for every two people in the United States which means we can't

Ninayreproduce our own population women are having way way less children there's no higher Duty anymore to do is that 2024 I'm not sure but the question with that then I think we're looking at you know

Ninayabortion in a different in a different Viewpoint of things right we we are very overpopulated in the world too like there's other aspects in life that you look at you can fit the entire

Andrew Wilsonpopulation of the world in Texas and they would each get a square acre the truth is is that we're not in any way shape or form overpopulated here's the

Andrew Wilsontruth what's going on is uh in the 1970s and uh even before that in the 60s there was a massive Campaign which was done which made the Bold claim that Humanity was going to starve if we

Andrew Wilsondidn't stop or if we didn't stop the reproduction which was happening books like the population bomb were dropped all over Africa and all over the Middle East and all over India saying that this was what what was going to happen in

Andrew Wilsonfact actually the opposite happen it turns out as you have more hands uh you can end up multiplying the amount of work you can do and effectively because

Andrew Wilsonof the high population that we have starvation globally almost eradicated it's almost completely eradicated nobody in the United States right this second

Andrew Wilsonor in Canada right or in any European nation and in most other nations actually will starve unless it's by choice it's almost impossible in fact if you were starving right there if you hadn't eaten in 5 days you could go to

Andrew Wilsonyour local emergency room and they will feed you it's a matter of policy you will get fed you can't actually starve to death unless it's by choice or abuse that's the only way it can even be done the opposite happened our food

Andrew Wilsonproduction went through the roof uh did does it feel to you like you don't have enough Goods at your disposal no the opposite right now you can order something from India have it here in 4 days well think about the process that

Andrew Wilsontakes the factory in India right after that after all the hands craft that then there's the logistics of it they have to get it on a plane someone's got to fly that plane right they got to fly it and they got to land it in an airport takes

Andrew Wilsontons of people in order to guide that plane in and then you got to put it in a truck and then that goes to a warehouse and then it gets dispersed from there locally and etc etc more hands actually creates a a a huge amount more work

Andrew Wilsonwhich can be done and that's the only reason in modernity population can even exist like we do nobody's starving you have readymade Goods at your disposal that's all because of the high population if we had a downsizing of the

Andrew Wilsonpopulation which is where we're heading that's when we're going to start seeing catastrophes they call it a population collapse and you don't have enough hands- on Deck to do work like think about this if you on a desert island

Andrew Wilsonwould you rather have 15 people there or two people there you'd rather have 15 you're going to get a lot more work done your survival is definitely going to increase drastically so the thing is is like that's the way it is in the world

TTS/Chattoo generally more people actually solves more problems in it hurts Darkman 42 donated $200 I've worked construction for 25

TTS/Chatplus years and at most there's one woman on a job site of 40 guys the most I've ever seen was 10 or 15 on a job site of 300 plus people it's a very small percentage even today dark Omen thank

Brian Atlasyou for the TTS man I do really appreciate it um I do have to move things along a little bit here um I want to how about how about this uh going to

Brian Atlasyour next note you said you love traditional dating being treated like a lady and not having to worry about anything but doing modern things modern dating to me is a little stressful or

Ninaytoo basic nobody wants to Netflix and chill what do you mean um so when I said modern dating stuff like modern activities like um oh like mini golf

Brian Atlasyeah oh okay um and you said you want to get to know the person you're spending time with uh you love traditional dating being treated like a lady um going around the table do you also like

Brian Atlastraditional dating being treated like a lady yes yes yeah you said yes yeah yeah yeah yeah okay are you would you

Ninayconsider yourselves traditional women yes no no um I can be what do you mean cuz I you know we grow up in a modern age

Ninayright we're part of the Modern Age so we know what it is to date modern and live in the society but I was taught traditional um traditional ways and things that you do and like and then

Brian Atlaswhat about you so aspic okay uh so what are can you guys list for me what are some of the things like when you say you love traditional dating and being treated like a lady can you maybe give me like

Brian Atlastwo or three things that you might expect from a guy when it comes to traditional dating um to keep it simple like open the door for me sure okay open the door

Andrew Wilsonyeah plan the day initiate sure and yeah okay what about you also real quick Brian sorry I don't mean to to cut in I just want to make the correction they said it was 1 acre per

Andrew Wilsonperson in Texas it's 0.2 Acres my bad just wanted to correct it go ahead go ahead um providing protection um chivalry like being

Winterromantic yeah okay I think just not being so handsy so fast right it's like the first date and a guy's like trying to grab your dating um you said the question was the

Brian Atlasaspects in traditional dating yeah like you said being treated like a lady you love traditional dating so what are some of the things that a guy would do to to do that like she said open the car door

Ninaypaying for the date this sort thing leading definitely leading um and

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