RAGE QUIT?! Do Modern Women DESERVE Chivalry? They Would Date CEO Assassin Luigi? | Dating Talk #220

Date: 2024-12-11

Duration: 7h 30m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDestiny (Cannabis)>

MMorgan (DT220)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background(audience)

SPEAKER_02Peyton(guest)

SPEAKER_03Lily(guest)

SPEAKER_04Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_05Destiny(guest)

SPEAKER_06Winter(guest)

SPEAKER_07TTS/Chat(audience)

SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_09TTS Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Eric (Osop)(guest)

SPEAKER_12TTS Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_13Ana(guest)

SPEAKER_14Ninay(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrian reveals it is the "final three shows" of the season and announces 50% off champagne pops.

“champagne pops streamlabs are 50% off the rest of the year”

QuoteEric says he first noticed Andrew when he saw him on stage with Fresh & Fit intellectually disarming a muscle-bound man, calling Andrew a "sigma type."

“I first heard of you... you kept your cool and you kind of like intellectually disarmed him”

ControversyWinter attempts Krav Maga choke on Eric. He escapes easily. She then kicks him in the balls. Major on-show physical incident.

“I could have killed and you hit me in my... real I mean in real life that's right”

QuoteBrian reveals he has been celibate from eating pussy since July 4th 2007 ("Independence Day" joke).

“It was July 4th it was Independence Day and I became independent of eating pussy”

QuoteBrian plays a video of his ex-girlfriend bowing deeply when he arrives home, with dinner ready and laundry done, as an example of an ideal traditional greeting.

“this is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend... huge bow... she got my dinner ready”

QuoteBrian tells Ninay: if she won't take his last name without a huge negotiation, he will stop opening her car door and paying for dates immediately.

“pay for your own shit until we're married... I'm never going to protect you... you can do all that shit yourself”

OtherDestiny (chair 1) falls asleep during the show. Brian calls her out for being high and disrespectful. She had left/been asleep for a portion of the later discussion.

“she Rage Quit she went to sleep... she came in high to the studio totally disrespectful”

QuoteEric (Osop) gives detailed speech about why men's standards for women need to be higher: "Men will sacrifice their happiness for their family; women will sacrifice their family for their happiness."

“men will sacrifice their happiness for their family women will sacrifice their family for their happiness”

QuoteAndrew explains that every Whatever panel is asked the same questions across 70+ episodes, so not preparing is the panelist's own fault, not a setup.

“every single panel of women who comes in the same questions are asked of them every single one... 76 times I think”

QuoteBrian challenges the misogyny accusation by asking Destiny for a specific example; she says the show just has that reputation but cannot cite anything specific from tonight.

“what have I said that is misogynistic... it seems like you view women as objects”

QuoteBrian announces Whatever podcast will take a 3-6 week holiday break. Final two shows announced (Sunday and Tuesday of the following week).

“we're going on break for anywhere from 3 to 6 weeks... final two shows”

ControversyWinter does a second physical demo against Desmond (large security guard). She attempts a double-leg takedown; he barely moves. Demonstrates the even greater gap between a small woman and a large trained man.

“she just... oh my God... he just stand there... she nearly went into the table”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Status Round

Each guest introduces themselves with name, age, location, occupation. Brian then asks about college/education. Follows with a round of relationship statuses, longest relationships, who broke up with whom, and current dating situation. Peyton's situationship (on-off, no title), Winter's celibacy and 10-month man, Ninay's 5-year high school sweetheart, Lily's 6-month girlfriend and recent 3-date fumble are notable.

Luigi Mangione / CEO Assassin Attraction

Discussion of Luigi Mangione (UnitedHealthcare CEO killer) and why many women online were attracted to him. Brian shows CCTV footage, mugshots, and TikTok reactions of women simping. Panel discusses hybristophilia (sexual attraction to criminals). Andrew and Eric debate whether women enjoy violence inherently vs socially conditioned. Most of the panel would not date Luigi despite some finding him cute.

Male vs Female Violence & Dark Psychology

Continuation of violence topic. Andrew argues men innately enjoy violence as a survival mechanism; Eric counters that violence as spectacle is socialized not natural. Discussion of war monks, samurai, hunter instincts. Women's attraction to dominance and BDSM fantasies discussed. Panel agrees women have darker psychology than mainstream admits.

Krav Maga / Strength Difference Demonstration

Winter claims she could defend herself against a man with Krav Maga skills. Eric volunteers to demonstrate; Winter attempts a rear naked choke hold but Eric easily escapes. Winter then kicks Eric in the balls, sparking debate about real-world strength differentials. Andrew provides commentary. Later, Desmond (security guard) does a second demonstration showing even greater strength gap. Andrew's Crucible crew donates $1000 to Eric.

Self-Ratings (Looks Scale 1-10)

Gorlock the Destroyer (TTS donation) asks everyone to rate their looks. Most women say 10. Brian defines the scale: 1=ugly to 10=absolutely stunning. Discussion about whether every woman is a 10. Morgan gives herself a 7. Andrew gives himself a 9. Brian asks what makes them a 10 beyond looks. AI age-progression photos shown for laughs. Plastic surgery debate follows.

Standards, Hypergamy & Wage Gap

TTS question: should men step up or women lower standards? Most women say men should step up. Brian and Eric argue women's standards have inflated while their own value has decreased ("hoe-flation"). Minimum income expectations discussed ($40k-$1M range). Andrew's argument that men's motivation to earn is driven by women's mating pressure explains the wage gap. Discussion of controlled vs uncontrolled wage gap (1 cent after adjustments).

Chivalry, Traditional Dating & Modern Women

Ninay's Instagram bio as "female advocate" sparks discussion. Brian asks what women want from traditional dating (door-opening, paying, leading) and what they offer in return (cooking, cleaning, massage). Debate about whether women can simultaneously demand traditional treatment while rejecting traditional duties. Last-name debate with Ninay — she wants a conversation about keeping her name. Brian says traditional men won't tolerate the negotiation. Andrew uses "sassy flamboyant man" hypothetical to show double standard.

Women's Rights, Voting History & Abortion Debate

Ninay's female advocacy background leads to discussion about women's rights. Brian and Andrew use charts to show men and women received voting rights within ~20 years of each other and most of history had no universal suffrage. Abortion debate: Andrew cites 0.5% of abortions are from SA, 40% "not financially prepared." Brian raises male bodily autonomy (circumcision, selective service/draft). Ninay learns about the Selective Service card for the first time.

Race, Racism & Oppression Debate

Peyton says Black people cannot be racist (only prejudiced) because of power dynamics. Andrew and Brian challenge the "power + prejudice" definition, showing it would also mean women oppress men (less threatening = privileged). Eric adds nuance about systemic vs personal racism. Discussion of police violence stats (more white men killed by police than all women combined), college enrollment stats (Black women graduate at higher rates than white women). Peyton cannot definitively explain average white man's privilege over average Black woman.

Misogyny Accusation & Show Defense

Destiny and Peyton wrote "misogyny" as a show disagreement on their pre-show questionnaire. Brian challenges them to give specific examples. Peyton says she cannot remember the specific remark. Andrew points out all questions are asked to every panel across 70+ episodes and women could have prepared. Eric notes women hold preconceived notions based on clips without watching full episodes.

Age Gap Relationships & Commonality Debate

Is it wrong for a 30-year-old to date a 19-year-old? Most panelists say yes. Andrew argues men and women have almost nothing in common regardless of age gap and the "commonality" argument is weak. Debate about what age men would date down to. Winter says she would not date above 40 (she is 35). Ana says she would not put an age cap.

Roast Session, Super Chats & Wrap

Final super chats and TTS donations read. Bear vs Man question (most pick man). Viewers roast panelists. Andrew leaves the show. Makeup removal segment (some panelists take off lashes). Winter does second Krav Maga demo with Desmond (security guard). Body count reveals. Pegging discussion. Brian gives advice for men in modern dating (level up, meet in person, passport bro option). Show announced to go on 3-6 week break for the holidays. Final two shows announced for the following Sunday and Tuesday.

Body Count, Sex Timing & Relationship Dynamics

Discussion of whether body count matters. Panel's responses: Ana and others refuse to share. Winter says 3. Eric says under 60. Peyton explains why she makes guys she likes wait longer (doesn't want to lose them) but is quicker with casual encounters — Andrew calls this "faking virtue." Eric explains men's polygamous nature. How many times rejected vs rejecting. Ages when lost virginity (mostly 16-17). Peyton previously had OnlyFans with cute content only.

Transcript

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Anamovies my wife wanted to take bra Brazilian jiu-jitsu classes with me bought her a pepper spray got another one Lucas thank you

Anafor the uh streamlabs message appreciate it man spray can told her to forget it and signed her up for a class in evasive tactics pepper spray him in the eyes

Anascream at the top of your lungs and do your best you SE B out of there thank you Lucas we got one more Brooks thank you Brooks I think your only chance is to taser the balls I would I thought I

Andrew Wilsonwas watching a snuff film for a second can we expect a second date can we expect a second date you didn't have a first one man that wasn't no all right well Eric the other thing is is um The

Andrew WilsonCrucible wanted to say Merry Christmas to you and uh for you showing the great demonstration of self- control and force Doctrine uh we went ahead and raised 1,000 bucks for you and we wanted to send that to you so we really appreciate

Andrew Wilsonit it was uh it was it was actually really fun to watch that demonstrated live for uh and I'm I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people are going to see it so was are you for real yeah I'm for real yeah we we we raised 1,000 bucks

Andrew Wilsonfor you we just need to know how to send it over Brian we'll give you the details you can tell him after the show we'll get we'll get we'll get you guys connected man and real talk Andrew I want to also tell you this um a lot of people be trying to

Eric (Osop)give you Flack on here in the comments but one thing about me I you it's obvious I don't agree with everything you say but one thing about me and anybody know me know this I never respect Men by based on how other men treat them necessarily to me I always

Eric (Osop)respect the Man based on how his woman treats him and how his mother treats him and when your wife came up here the other day based on how she carried herself based on how she move and how she speaks I know that you're a great dude regardless of how people may come

Eric (Osop)off even how you may come off the meet sometimes you come off a little anal but I respect it but your your wife really show said a lot about you cuz I feel like a man a woman is a reflection of her man and she really car of herself excellently so and she spoke highly of

Andrew Wilsonyou so I respect you for that yeah well yeah she's great well I mean no worries right um if you're in this space for long enough you'll see you'll get plenty of hate so I see the funny thing right I didn't mean to cut you off the first time I saw you I [ __ ] you because I seen

Eric (Osop)you on the stage with fresh and fitting them and you was getting into it with a guy who was like real like muscle bound and the way you kind of like the way you you kept your you kept your cool and you kind of like intellectually disarmed him and you you know you never tried to push

Eric (Osop)your weight around cuz everybody like to talk the alpha I feel like I'm more of a sigma type and to me you come off like a sigma man too like you don't seem like you go out your way to look for attention but the way you handle him that's when I first heard of you I'm like I I [ __ ] with him so to see that we

Andrew Wilsonon the same platform now that's dope so shout out to you and your wife yeah no well no worries but on on behalf of The Crucible crew Merry Christmas man we got you we raise that for you that way you

Brian Atlasget the finest ice on the market get the finest ice on the market but we appreciated it very much yeah that was uh very uh kind of uh you Andrew and also very kind of uh

Brian Atlaseverybody over there watching to the Cru shout out guys shout out thank you guys so much uh and um you know what maybe we'll do a round two later with but

Brian AtlasDesmond wanted a piece Desmond wanted a piece so what you you down for yeah sure I don't know who Desmond is I'm down yo so guys stay tuned be sure to stay tuned

Brian Atlaswe got Desmond my security guard oh great yeah making his debut on camera I'm getting uh choked out by 4

Brian Atlasfoot1 KV Mah expert yeah expert expert over there so um rock and roll uh oh and we do have a super chat Anda I'm going to have you read this

Anaone picky Queen is exactly why women need firearms training from Andrew noes instead of pretending like curling eight pounds of the gym is going to allow them

Winterto take on full grown men with their Superior Mass and strength you have a quick response to this thank you Brian oh I just think we're focusing on uh me

Winterfighting a man against a man more than we're focusing on something tactical and evasive you know you get attacked and you make a move and you run it's not

Winterlike a man and a woman fighting and I feel like these responses are more based off of a man and a woman fighting rather than a woman being attacked and evading so that's my response is good point okay

Brian Atlasuh we are going to have Let's see we have gorlock the Destroyer ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to 10 is that the real gorlock that is the real gorlock okay 10 10

Lilyfour 10 okay broke my skill seven wait what broke my skill wait so 10 yeah or

Brian Atlaswait 20 out of off this okay off the so 11 should I I'll just write 11 11 is fine all right go ahead Morgan seven 10

Brian Atlasis that did you is that new can you scoot your mic that way wow that good

Anajob uh wait what haven't you said something different before yeah what but this podcast just made me realize like

AnaI'm a 10 he learned her y need to take [ __ ] okay uh Eric what about you Fu I'm a 10 too then [ __ ] we all [ __ ] that I'm a 10 now per I give myself a five

Andrew WilsonAndrew what about you uh so I mean if there's this many tens at the table then of course I'm a 10 word all right well why wait why are you laughing you saying I'm not a 10 oh

Brian Atlasno understand oh no okay well yeah I mean if we can just all feel like T then I feel like a

Brian Atlas10 huh okay um so 10 10 10 10 10 uh

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Eric (Osop)okay all right lot of lot of you know it's I got a question can I ask a question yeah what makes you a 10 besides your looks everybody wait but that's the the question is no I'm no I'm

Brian Atlassaying I'm acting a different I see besides your looks what makes you a 10 well I don't know if they're I don't know if they consider themselves a 10

Eric (Osop)besides their looks do you I I I have a person so outside of your looks while you attend look what makes you attend my

Andrew Wilsonaura the [ __ ] N I need more context than that myg you feel it energy yeah is that is that a brand of marijuana or I think it is I think that's a

Destinypack a good vibe that's a good order good VI y'all PR you tell even she raised her answer so that's how you know the energy is good in the room say that again she even changed her answer about herself so that's how you know the energy is oh you think she did it

Eric (Osop)because of your energy everyone's energy I feel like confident seeing confident people can help you be more confident like y'all these are great these are real cute sexy answers but you really didn't answer it I need something specific like your work together your

Peytondiscipline your heart your your your charisma like what everybody they got hor your knowledge put you like to me put for sure like being educated just being talented being just like a open

Peytonlike funny person and like knowing how to make people like smile like I feel like I have good energy that makes me a 10 and it rubs off on what about you what about you what makes you 10 me my

Ninaypersonality uh personality and my ongoing degree learning okay what about you I'm funny you are yes I've been laughing this

Peytonwhole time I'm laughing right now um don't you have to actually like be funny to be fun like like you want to joke yeah make us laugh I think I can

Brian Atlasmake you guys laugh like at least by the end of this give a give us a give me a joke okay I can't just I'm not that type of funny lady make us laugh funny lady oh that's from Wedding Crashers or well sort of kind of it's like now see

Brian Atlasthat was a joke right see how every laughed your turn go ahead that funny um knock knock who oh this is already you're already [ __ ] up

Brian Atlasokay he's laughing right now I'm laughing to him I made the who's who's there me wow that was dog [ __ ] I actually want to end this [ __ ]

Brian Atlaspodcast right now how bad that was I'm that was the end of think she had I think she was just freestyling I think she had more okay knock knock what the [ __ ] who's

Destinythere who's there who's there Eric what's up Eric who Eric got kicked in the

Destinyballs oh sorry knock knock who's there there so

Andrew Wilsonyou youo you you suck you Su and you're boring as [ __ ] you suck

TTS/Chatoh boy I'm slaming the door in his face cost donated $200 hey B got home from kids chorus and

TTS/Chatband e8th grade get ready for 15 years later for you it's great ask Andrew panel have kids they are awesome you will love them so much than you know hey

Brian Atlasman thank you so much for the uh $200 uh TTS man really appreciate the W's in the chat for uh we'll just call you PC we're going to call you PC thank you man appreciate it uh very generous of you

Brian Atlasgood to see you back in the chat uh wait where were we we're oh the 10 thing the 10 thing um wait question do you guys agree with this scale what if we so uh

Brian AtlasI'll start from one go down to 10 so one but ugly two unattractive three frumpy or plain four below average five average

Brian Atlassix above average seven pretty eight beautiful nine gorgeous 10 absolutely stunning when it comes to looks going around the table those of you who said 10 I want

Ninayyou to say that you're absolutely stunning I'm absolutely stunning I'm absolutely stunning waiting on you waiting on she didn't say she's not

Ninayshe didn't say go ahead me yeah you oh I am definitely absolutely stunning May and ice I'm absolutely stunning Ana say it I'm

Ananot why what did you just joking she was messing around with the 10 thing um well but they all everybody else said it

Brian Atlasso how about this I want you to say that you are among the most beautiful women one of the most beautiful women in the world can you say

Ninaythat I like there's different standards different but if you're 10 well there could be women who are like s uh what's the term who are as attractive as you mhm but there can be if you're a 10 there can't be any women

Andrew Wilsonwho are more attractive than you there's more than 10 so I give I give myself a nine I give myself a nine but but the whatever podcast has the most beautiful women in the world on it I know this for

Andrew Wilsonsure because all you have to do is ask them yeah so I don't I don't even understand I don't even understand the standard here I mean obviously if you're on the whatever podcast you're among the elite women of the world looks wise

Andrew Wilsonbecause all all women who come on the whatever podcast say that they're among the elite women of the world looks wise wait how about this um do you guys think

Brian Atlasall women are tens those of you who said 10 yes okay of course no in like a looks ways like just looks just looks back on

Ninaythe standard thing like I feel like it's different to the naked eye like you think something's beautiful and I might think it's not you know every man ATT 10

Eric (Osop)no oh wow see how quick so why is it why is every man responses go ahead that's I agree with her with who with um not

Brian Atlasevery man's 10 okay sorry I'm not all women are tens okay well so there are some women who are fives there are like you can look at a woman and be like

Lilyshe's a mid she's a five me I'm a 10 that's the thought process okay no that's literally okay if like if people were in a different count they could be

Lily10 yeah let's just talk about the wait what yeah around the world I feel like you can which country wa if a foreigner like let's say a black person goes to

LilyChina they're at of 10 or like wa one Rarity okay it they don't see they they don't see like if you go to a different country they're always looking at the

Brian Atlaspeople that look like them versus I mean yeah but like when it comes to dating like this oh dating we're talking yeah I mean like you're you're you are look it's a globalized Marketplace to some

Brian Atlasdegree because if you're on social media like you could go and meet somebody in a different country but like typically the standard for this sort of assessment would be like your sort of immediate

Peytongeographical area or at least at least uh your country so on Country level USA okay I don't think everyone's a 10 yeah and I I feel like I I understood where

Peytonshe was coming from because you could be a 10 in like La I mean no you could be like a 10 in like Minnesota and then like a five in La like it I feel like it depends where you are well yeah but then

Brian Atlasbringing it back to a global level everybody has access to the internet like even before that I mean we've we all have access to the internet we've

Brian Atlasall been exposed to mass media we've seen beautiful people in depictions in commercials in TV in film we know what really really attractive people look like it's also lies like a lot of it

Peytonisn't real yeah and I feel like and that's exactly why social media like makes us think like there's way more we because yeah they're on the internet but you will never meet that person in real life so it's like but we still

Eric (Osop)talking about just simply comparison okay comp we have we have too many people to compare to so yeah are you attend first thing in the morning yes yeah okay are you would you be down

Eric (Osop)later later like at the end of the show to take your makeup off all your makeup off that's a lot oh the plot I think that's fair I think should still be1 with I think that's fair I think so how you look in the morning tell me

Eric (Osop)everything that's that's who I like who you look like in the morning yeah they they'll do the makeup removal at the end of the so just to be clear no every woman is a 10 but every man is not a 10 that's your final answer not every not

Eric (Osop)every woman is a 10 okay you smart I like you do you think every man is a 10 hell no I don't think everybody nobody's a 10 but to me just see this my thing there's a difference between I'm not

Eric (Osop)about to judge men but when it come to women I think there's women that are pretty and then women out are beautiful I think when you're beautiful it's more than just

Eric (Osop)looks you know what I'm saying I think beauty is a overall energy a modesty a sweetness and I don't think I don't think there's a lot of beautiful women in the world there a lot of pretty women a lot of physically stunning women but beautiful I don't think there's a lot of

Andrew Wilsonbeautiful women in the world no oh I wonder and I think that there's a lot of women who are just [ __ ] ugly and there's a lot of men who are ugly too and I think that we're just plainly coping 100% when we do this pretentious

Andrew Wilsonpretend thing where you're like no every woman's a 10 it's like come on you guys judge each other const you sit at a table in a group of women the very first thing you're doing is comparing your looks to the woman next to you and then

Andrew Wilsonyou cope about that too and you're like nuh-uh no I'm not I am not I'm not doing shut up yeah you are of course you are and the thing is is like uh no you can clearly tell when a woman's ugly and

Andrew Wilsonwhen a woman isn't ugly in fact I know this because the very first thing I hear women say about other women who they don't like is how ugly they are the very first thing they say so I don't know it it just seems like it's Coke to me

Lilythat's all well I feel like if a woman was to say Oh that girl is ugly they're probably talking about like their personality like why would they just call them ugly like for no reason because no y no no no like no one's

Andrew Wilsongoing to actually go out and multiple burn victim half her face is melted she has a hunchback right she's walking around like this and you're like she's so beautiful it's like stop stop a

Andrew Wilsonbeautiful soul stop the right stop the C like why would you call someone ugly when you haven't spoke to them though exactly that's just really what does that have to do with the standard of

Andrew Wilsonphysical Beauty ugly has not listen you can say a person's ugly on the inside or beautiful on the inside that's fine but we're not talking about whether or not your emotions are beautiful all right we're talking about whether or not you

Andrew Wilsonphysically are beautiful you know what I mean like perhaps you could do that whole you know um stupid thing with the uh the bag blowing in the wind and say oh it's the most beautiful thing I've

Andrew Wilsonever seen right it's not though it's just an ugly ass [ __ ] bag blowing in the wind so the thing is like ultimately I just want to know this do you guys ever look at a woman's physical

Andrew Wilsonappearance and think she's unattractive by a show of hands especially in your business show of hands do you ever look at a woman and think in your head that woman's not very

Andrew Wilsonattractive show of hands I mean I feel like I do for a everybody though it's not just now let hang on hang on hang on hang on let's do a show of hands for

Andrew Wilsonthis show of hands if you would ever lie right about whether or not you have ever judged whether a woman is attractive or not show of hands for that too liever

Brian AtlasLi what do you mean all right I didn't get the sentence Oh wait there was something uh wait there's something about

Brian AtlasH whatever we'll do the makeup thing in a bit we have a few more chats but related to uh related to this techn Trooper ladies can you define healthy

Brian Atlasmasculinity is there any healthy masculinity oh yeah the day makes the world go around yeah chivalry sh okay

Brian Atlaschivalry okay anybody um being a provider and protector that's paying the

Ninaybills that's that's all we are is uh is uh someone at and Banks it prot balance in yourself too like the feminine and masculine you can't be overd dominated

Eric (Osop)in one area is there a positive attribute of a man that he has that doesn't directly benefit you that you value their knowledge okay for

Ninaythemselves cuz if they know how to survive and they know how to you know go about life and stuff okay what about you their ambition you can benefit from this ambition oh yeah that what is something

Brian Atlasthat he does that doesn't benefit you at all that you can admire about him um I don't think women can think like that how he treats just did that's a crazy thing to say the only no no no

Brian Atlaslike really when you look at men you are only looking at how can I benefit that's not true I think that's vice versa though I feel like you should be a good person you guys not like oh this person

Peytonhave my child and can this person take care of EX you want them to be a good father so you have to think about things that go beyond what benefits you what's going to benefit your child what's going to benefit your family I mean you can have attributes that don't benefit me or my child at all that's still positive I

Eric (Osop)can admire about you exactly you know what I'm saying so I'm saying do y'all is there anything about men that does that's not directed to his protection I mean not connected to his protection and his uh ability to provide for you that

Eric (Osop)you still can admire about a man that doesn't include something that's done for you self discipline okay that's a good answer I respect that I like that one for sure

Brian Atlasalthough wouldn't that still benefit like okay he's like in really good shape and he's so he's more self don't necessar mean it could be self disine you know how you react to things it's a lot of ways that self displine can be

Morganexpressed sure okay uh Morgan can you read this one yeah sorry ladies but Morgan is the highest in looks at the table and she's only

Brian Atlasseven what kind of backhanded compliment is that I know I said seven oh cuz you called yourself a seven dragon's Talon thank you for the $100 Super Chat I do

Brian Atlasappreciate it thank you so much man and then we have oh we have uh I think Lucas oh he just sent it in one sec uh where is it yeah yo bearded fetus thank you

Anafor the gifted five Subs I do really appreciate it we have Lucas here coming in Ana I'm gonna have you read this one the circular logic that percolates

Anain their head fascinates me I ran my stats through the dulu calculator point 0 13% granted I'm already married but if

Brian AtlasI wasn't why would I wi any of you up that's an interesting question um here he has a follow-up though and then I'll let you guys answer that can we see what he look like continued are you submissive are you virtuous are you

Anablonde and hot oh I'm not going to answer do you have impeccable integrity and loyalty do you have impeccable etiquette and behave like a traditional

Brian Atlaslady let the spin begin so the question was uh why would he but you can take

Brian Atlasthis as why should a man wife any of you up starting with you well I'm not blonde so maybe I'm not your type yeah well so disregard that part but like let's just assume like why should any man wife you

Destinyup first of all if he's attracted to me then he won't care about my hair color and okay disregard disregard that forget the blond so there's nothing I say CU When you over that's okay for the third

Andrew Wilsontime super simple it's super simple so you're saying this man the man checks all your boxes he has lots of money he's really handsome he's he checks all the boxes

Brian Atlasfor you okay right why should he wife you up cuz I'm one of one yeah everybody's one of one though so that doesn't make you unique at all I

Peytonthink she the most unique no but but everybody is a one of one but like but like so that's everybody can bring that to the table SE twins that's true but like everybody is different and somebody who wants you is going to like you for like different let's let her answer go

Brian Atlasahead yeah I'm just kidding the list just goes on too long yeah okay go ahead we'll we'll listen to the very long list can't wait

DestinyI'm at the edge of my seat well because I'm amazing yeah how are you amazing I'm going to sound cocky yeah how are you amazing though girl

Destinyhappyself well I don't know I've been living my best life ever since what what does that mean living your best life like you know just providing making my

Destinygoals become a reality and I would think that if somebody sees me living a successful life they would want to be a part of it likewise if I see somebody living a successful life why not be a

Destinypart of it together we could be stronger and grow have kids else what else what else what else what else yeah so okay you're successful what else

Destinyum hardworking self-efficient confident self-efficient confident okay

Destinyanything else smart smart Okay Wise Wise okay healthy healthy beautiful is smoking weed healthy yes yes it is

Destinyactually a lot of like people do smoking aspect maybe smoking weed a lot of people do other things too that aren't healthy but hey facts talk about okay so but question when you you want to get

Destinymarried right yes you want to have kids yes how many kids as many God blesses me with okay and do you want to be working or do you want to stay at home I think I'll always work I'm thankful that I work from home so

Brian AtlasI'll probably always continue that but I don't want to work like No 9 to5 okay so you do want to continue working even like when you're pregnant and like a

Destinyweek before you prob little but I always have my own businesses and making money in my sleep is always the goal okay all

Andrew Wilsonright right so around the table why why why would the perfect guy for you want to wifee you up I'm the same person without the M I'm

Peytonwith them oh we we'll go I thought she boom boom boom go ahead um I'm educated I'm successful very

Peytonindependent I feel like I'm very motivational and I feel like I could be very like inspiring and like I said like I have good energy and it rubs off on other and I feel like that would rub off on my husband and I see myself like being with somebody that I could uplift

Peytonlike I'm I'm a very like positive excuse me uplifting person I would also say um you know like I could cook I feel like guys like that I would

Peytonclean like I feel like I just I I can play into like my domestic role or my domestic side as like a wife um and yeah I'm loyal I'm

Winterfunny yeah those are mine what about you I'm the same person myself as I would be with them

Winterlike I'm not going to put on a show to genuine yeah anything else

Wintergenuine uh I have ambition I have a future I have good ideologies virtues I try to make as good choices as

NinayI can uh okay yeah what about you for the ideal partner that checks out everything for me um with that like motherly nature

Ninayand that caring aspect right playing in your domestic and being the caretaker to them also um I'm knowledgeable so I come with my own like skills and things I've

Lilylearned in life that can potentially help each other in um the relationship mhm Lily what about you so someone should wife me up because it is a

Brian Atlasblessing to be in my presence and bro bro what stop it it's crazy okay so yeah I haven't felt very I've been in your presence for

Lilythe past 3 hours I'm kind of I'm not trying to wife you up so she's going to wife wife yeah but I'll up I'll uplift you I'll motivate you inspire you to

Lilybelieve in yourself and reach for your goals I'm smart and I'm kind that was beautiful that was that was really um that was really

Brian Atlastouching heartwarming from to hear from all of you guys I'm I need a tissue that was beautiful um thank you Lucas for the uh chat um I don't know there some of

Brian Atlasthe the things I heard in there were like decent I guess um but like a lot of you said like oh I'm ambitious I'm successful you guys realize men don't really care about that at all that's true but it will help benefit like you

Ninayknow our family our future Legacy together so this new generation two of men are like this new generation of men too are like what do you come to the table with and asket yeah no I literally had somebody

Ninaythe other day who was trying to pursue me be like you know I've already done the work D if somebody wants to settle down I'll be the stay home um person and they can work and I was like what maned

Brian Atlassomeone said that to me too before they're like I was how would you feel if I was a stay-at-home dad I was like hell no I mean I'll go ahead and Grant that there are some probably very few men who

Brian Atlashave this attitude but there's even fewer women who would even be willing to be in that sort of dynamic um that's crazy uh really quick going back to the like the rating thing

Brian Atlaswe have a follow-up question on this uh do you think you'll be better looking so better your looks will they be better in 10 years time you're 24 will you be better looking at 34 yes cuz I'll have

Brian Atlasmore money okay uh 20 years time at 44 yeah facelift okay uh 30 years time at

Brian Atlas54 oh wait what was the question I'm always going to get better looking yeah yeah so will you be better looking uh at 604 then in 40 years time okay maybe right now is my

Brian AtlasPrime wait now is your Prime in you just said you'll be better looking in 10 year in 10 years at 34 I think I'll be equally as gorgeous it's a totally different answer you need to lay off the

Brian Atlasweed um uh answer it wrong I changed my answer sorry okay so equal you'll be just as good-looking in 10 years how about 20 years time equally as

Brian Atlasgood-looking yeah 30 years equally as good-looking yes 40 years equally as good-looking probably until I'm 75 then I that's the that's your Peak okay that's uh all right people start getting

Brian Atlasugly at like 6070 yeah just the 60s and not earlier it's like you stay the exact same depend for 40 years like no aging it's like no

Brian Atlasaging 40 years and then like in a 3 week period you just it's over some people yeah um you're 26 better looking in 10 years time at 36 I do think yes I

Brian Atlaswould look better looking in 20 years time at 46 um I think I'll still be the same around my 30s you know uh same or better looking in 30 years time at 56

Brian Atlassame my mom is beauti she 40 years time 66 no I think that's what my my beauty was all right you're 35 better looking in 10 years time at 45 I don't think so okay and then were you better looking 10

Winteryears ago at 25 versus now I don't think so better looking now at 35 versus 25 I think so were you

Winterobese or I was I was overweight I've lost I've lost like half my body weight wow wow yeah wait and at 410 that means a lot

Ninayuhhuh or 49 or whatever okay you're 24 better looking in 10 years time at 34 um yes okay I think with age comes like Chang in elegance and also like that

Ninaymaturity and like the style change so okay uh 20 years time at 44 better looking better looking or I feel like still looking good like you taking care of yourself better better looking or you

Ninaycould it can be just as goodl looking I feel like just as good-looking or know I get surgery you can do that sure 30 years time atg yeah exactly people could do

Ninaythat on 30 years time at 54 uh 54 still goodl looking yeah not the uh the question is like either better looking or still still looking the same right that's what you said yeah but the

Brian Atlasquestion it's not still looking because you can be 30 40 50 and still be attractive yeah that's not the question the question is will you be as attractive or more attractive in 10 20

Brian Atlas30 years time we're at 55 5 54 yeah in 30 years time I think I'll still be looking attractive do I have to repeat the question a third time we look better

Brian Atlasapparently maybe better no better or still attractive still as still as attractive the operative word as is very important yes you can still be attractive at 50 60 I'm not asking if

Brian Atlasyou'll still be attractive will you be as attractive as you are now at 55 or 54 I hope so I don't I don't know time will tell all right uh

Brian Atlasyou're 24 will you be better looking in 10 years time at 34 yes 20 years time at

Brian Atlas44 yes 30 years time 54 yes 40 years at

Brian Atlas64 yes 50 years at 74 yes 60 years at 84 yes 70 hold on 70 years at 94

Brian Atlasyeah you're actually I don't know what drink you taking but I want that [ __ ] cuz uh can you close the your confidence is crazy um yeah that was obviously a troll

Brian Atlasanswer but um okay um do we have can you you have the photos Damian do we have two batches or just uh are they gonna take us and make us just one okay keep an eye if we get a

Eric (Osop)second batch okay yeah it's like so bad faith yeah I'm going to be y better not have me looking like Sammy David Jr again y I don't know what the hell that be boy

Brian Atlaswhat yep all right we have age Advanced you all of you guys and uh no some

Peytonmama how old is she there yikes look like uh okay

Brian Atlasnext she like my granny did okay all right next you also made whoa oh my God that's 10 years hey that's the look you

Ninaygot on wa yeah how many years is this is that age 10 next in 10 years oh I look cute how you the I'm like a little old Asia lady Yik you don't look that bad

Brian Atlaseither you became you saying yikes like we no wrinkles still cute though I feel like on the right you look like a Titan from

Andrew WilsonAttack on Titan do you know what I mean wow do you know chat do you know what I mean bro wait I didn't even see this until before but you're right she does she it looks like a Titan from Attack on

PeytonTI true wait hold on I'll find a I'll find a thing uh [Music] next oh God wait maybe I shouldn't put how old is she supposed to be stay

Brian Atlashere for a second like the the one on the right I feel like that's somebody that you just see at Trader Joe's yeah like I see her at Trader Joe's all the time okay

Brian Atlasnext wow you look kind of you look kind of the same though not going to she looks less Asian are you Asian she yeah oh okay she kind of became Mexican a little

Brian AtlasI don't know doeses anybody else see it she got she became Mexican like a little Mexican all of the time all right what else we got we got they always got me looking crazy goodness that look nothing like me man it's like so can somebody

Brian Atlaswait can somebody do I got my father my phone he look like who who's that guy with the deep voice the actor uh Morgan famous a is the cookie man can you guys can you guys make him look like

Brian Atlaslike with the the spots freck should do you do we have more my see yours you're

Brian Atlasthe last one do they we got more oh yeah get that out of here obvious obviously n obviously next oh there you go is the

Brian Atlasdid another batch came through or all right keep can you keep an eye if another batch comes through and um funny man yeah that's crazy man that's crazy

Brian Atlasum really so oh wait we didn't do the like okay wait I'm sorry we have to pull it back up I we I messed I messed up pull it back up pull it back up from the beginning my bad did we say like what

Lilyage that was how guess like like 20 that's like 20 that's like 20 years we started having gray hairs 20 years um a little smaller I

Brian Atlasthink okay so question for sure get neck question what the [ __ ] is that question are you better looking on the uh old younger on the left or older on the

Brian Atlasright so okay so better looking younger okay next which one better looking yes younger okay next oh my I mean you said yeah maybe we got maybe we got to like

Ninaycan we make Herer we got to make her younger cuz she says she's better looking now you like a murderer you do yeah like I look like I've been killing yeah eat oh my gosh you know who you

Ninaylook like age like fine why younger new BL right I feel I feel like the same like I feel like I still I don't remember her name either okay you caught

Peytonme I don't feel like we look horrid right we don't look that bad

Brian Atlasall right okay all right you know what though Andrew we've we've Tangled a bit on the plastic surgery thing and per I feel like perhaps my views on plastic

Brian Atlassurgery I've actually been seeing some videos of some really remarkable like kind of passing plastic surgery where it's not apparent and it's

Brian Atlaslike full facelift and like maybe I'm just basing this off of like plastic surgery I saw like a decade ago where it's like clearly they have plastic surgery it looks to me it looked botched

Brian Atlasit was very obvious that they had plastic surgery but some of the procedures now are actually I'm still not in favor of the plastic surgery but they're actually pretty Advanced or

Brian Atlasperhaps the CH the changes that have been made in the field are very Advanced um I'm still not again I'm still against plastic surgery but it is pretty remarkable some of the stuff that they are doing

Brian Atlasto the point where it's actually it doesn't some of these procedures that are pretty significant the the the results are good

Brian Atlasis what I'm trying to get at so um it made me kind of rethink my position a little bit I'm still I still have objections to plastic surgery but the results do seem to actually be can be

Andrew Wilsongood whereas before I was just like they're botched as [ __ ] yeah I mean I think it's surgery dependent though right so depends on what type like I don't think the Brazilian butt lift ever looks

Brian Atlasgood ever so I don't like like the implant [ __ ] like BBL and fake tits but like any of the face stuff like I saw this video of this woman who

Brian Atlaslike totally transformed her face to and it looked pretty uh good I guess you don't like

Eric (Osop)bbl's Brian you do I mean it depends no listen listen I don't like implants I don't like surgery I like I like but the BBL is really just shifting weight into a different place so it's

Eric (Osop)like I don't I don't deem it as bad I think it's dangerous to the woman's body cuz a lot of women that's a major surgery but I don't I don't look at a BBL as implants you got to work for it they look like they [ __ ] their pants bro look like some people got [ __ ] up BBL

Peytonbut some people look good as hell with them shits it just depend skin BBL the natural bbls can't even tell they got work on it's cheating it's definitely cheating it might be cheating yeah but it's not to say like doesn't look good work for that [ __ ] okay but they're for

Lilyit like you can't get a big butt you have a BBL no you have anything no so wait I don't understand they're paying for it so no like you're saying work for that [ __ ] they worked in a different way they Ed their money to pay

Eric (Osop)for their B no I mean like physically work for it like everybody the body you can't make your breast bigger you can't make your butt bigger right you can yeah exercise you can make your your butt bigger uh slightly definitely can't make

Eric (Osop)your breast no well yeah breast you can't do anything about what about those women who got them messed up but you know them funny now we all know about them funny shaped Snapple bodies you know that heavy top and a small

Eric (Osop)bottom it's nothing they can do I don't care how much they work out they need a miracle so some women I feel like it's Justified because one thing about women I've learned if they don't feel pretty bro there's nothing you can tell them until they feel like they're pretty like

Eric (Osop)that's a whole different Dynamic I don't think we understand women got to feel pretty in her own eyes for her to feel confident that's true why are you against it like against what plastic

Brian Atlassurgery I mean there's a couple there's a couple reasons um from a dating there's the dating perspective where it's like okay a woman who's like so insecure to the point that she's going to like go under the knife and spend

Brian Atlasthousands or tens of thousands of dollars one that's a financial liability in the relationship especially if she's looking at me to be the provider if I'm going to be with her for 10 20 30 40 50 years she's going to be looking at me to

Brian Atlasbe like continuously like having this sort of upkeep for which could otherwise be better spent on like vacations or the kids or something like this um also it's just like an it's proxy or an indicator

Brian Atlasfor mental illness if you're like so insecure about your appearance that you're like okay I'm going to spend all this money and do a dangerous surgery where I could die for vanity then yeah

Brian Atlasthere's like kind of something you could have body dys uh dysmorphia or dysphoria dysmorphia dysmorphia you've got body dysmorphia um it's just and then from an

Brian Atlasaesthetic perspective still related dating uh I typically don't find like I'm I don't think fake boobs look good they don't feel good BBL doesn't I don't I'd rather like I've I say this all the

Brian Atlastime on the show but I'll just repeat it quickly I'd prefer a girl with like a cup or nothing or be whatever beup over like the perfect the nothing so you don't like boobs no big boobs are cool

Brian Atlastoo but like what I mean I could get into the details on this but uh I'd prefer like acup over like perfect fake

Brian Atlastitties I prefer like a flat bum over like the BBL or whatever I'd prefer a little bit of belly fat over the Lipo belly I just think it looks weird um and

Peytonthen there's a labia plasty too oh like no upper lip versus the lip filler don't like it so um yeah so is that like your type like your your favorite body type

Peytonto see is like flat titties flat ass flat lips like everything just flat no I mean I I do actually think that like big boobs are good big butt is good you just like the natural big boobs natural big

Brian Atlasbutt yeah I like natural and like plump lips those are good too I guess but um I mean also I care more about like I mean looks fade and if this is going to be like the person I'm spending my life

Brian Atlasobviously I care about looks but like there are things that are like way more important then just like okay you've got a fat ass whatever like and also I'm a labia guy like I'm not a guy I'm not a

Eric (Osop)butt guy I'm a lady you just like to get straight to the I only yeah like lar but you don't like to eat it though that's yeah that's crazy how's I'm just saying

Andrew Wilsonyou I'm that's a little it's a woman how's it Su not eating [ __ ] is sus hang on wait a second wait a second it's like it's like think of it like a wedding

Andrew Wilsoncake from Brian's angle okay wedding cakes are beautiful to look at but they don't taste very [ __ ] good right so nice look at but nobody wants to eat a piece of wedding cake they never it

Brian Atlasnever tastes good wedding cake never tastes so that's Brian's position that's that's Brian's position that's Brian's position but um yeah I mean like boobs don't really care about like nice butt

Peytonsure it's like it's like labia but boobs in that order but but how do you know what somebody's labia looks like when you first meet them just looking at it he's not doing nothing I mean you could

Brian Atlasyou could like I mean maybe maybe she's sending you a picture beforehand oh before you guys have sex sure why not so the ladyy is the lips the the that's the [ __ ] it's the flower it's the it's the

Eric (Osop)lip mostly the lips yeah so you like you like you like just looking at pretty vaginal lips that's like thing the way you say it but not it's a woman we talking about a woman it's nothing gay about no I'm not saying it's gay it's just kind of funny like I mean you said

Brian Atlasyou're a labia guy but you don't want to eat it but you just want to look at it that's funny to me well it's also look it's not just I can't believe I have to actually I'm going to articulate this there there is a

Brian Atlasdifference not just visually too I'll just say that so you think the lips affect the feeling a little yeah there's a bit of a different feel I

Brian Atlasdon't agree you like okay how about this if you're kissing a girl with like thin this is different like the mouth lips okay if you're kissing a girl with super

Eric (Osop)thin lips versus like really plump big lips there's a difference right it's it depends on what I'm doing now I'm kissing you it's more to me I want to get graphic but of course this lips with

Eric (Osop)a lot of tongue work so lips don't really determine how you move that tongue that's one two when I'm dealing with I'm just saying it's I'm but I'm not talking about tongue I'm just like there I'm saying but when it come to kissing to me tongue matters more than just lips no no no but I'm just talking

Eric (Osop)about the lips like there's a different feeling like it feels different but when it come to penetrating them lips don't determine how good it feel when you when they're second dat you have at twoo but um I'm talking about if you having sex with a woman the size of her lips

Brian Atlasdoesn't mean the sex is going to be good is what I'm saying you could have fat vaginal lips and not good yeah you can have great look I'll I date women with enies too you can have good sex with women with enies of course that's not

Eric (Osop)I'm not that's what I'm not what I'm saying okay no so I'm trying to say so say to me what you trying to say as far as like the benefit of the big lip supposed to not like what what do you get out of the lips besides visual you

Eric (Osop)like if it's not if you just like how it look that's cool too no most of it is visual most of it is visual but there is there is a bit of a difference in feeling a little suction action a little grippage a little grippage Okay g I

Lilydon't think lips determine the grip but hey no it's a grippage lipsti grip I think they're the grip lip slip too fast I don't think the lips are the grip is behind the lips you know what I'm

Peytonsaying the grip is the vagina yeah that's the gums y'all never heard lips that grip they're making it grip the P was Ging definely I feel like fat coochie lips for sure like probably feel

Eric (Osop)a little different they look goodwe coochie lips they don't mean it's good you know what I'm saying other ways y'all crazy man y'all crazy it's never the girl with the craziest body that got the good sex if we want to keep it a

Eric (Osop)buck wait yeah they be saying like the girl with like the crazy big nice body don't always have the best sex it's it's really them petite ones that rock your world like like b or something like that

Brian Atlasoh wait let's P since we're on the topic right now do you have that make sure it's on the picture of the guy like prior to surgery I want to see the see the transformation can you pull that up

Brian Atlasalso do you have did any more uh okay we'll do that in a sec here let's see the surgery guy first though all right ladies tell us what you think here's a guy getting surgery on his face I think

Peytonlike current surgery or before and after Carlo I'm scared oh I see this all right next go

Brian Atlasback that implant will do it to you next those was a jaw one more time and then go back that's what Jack Carlo did that's [ __ ] in that's a

Eric (Osop)pretty big transformation jaw extension or some [ __ ] I think he got a chin implant and then they got he got some filler in his jaw yeah you know they got height surgeries too right yeah that's weird as

Brian Atlashell to me that's that seems SC why can't people just be happy all right here's the cards I'm dealt you know do what you can to improve yourself naturally you know like but but you you got to think that comes with confidence

Eric (Osop)in yourself like we live in a country that's we live unless you very emotionally and intellectually developed is a lot of people Buckle under that societal pressure that you got to have this you got to look like that like everybody just not that strong bro

Brian Atlasthat's true that's true but I I just see this like creep creeping when it comes to like all the the the makeup usage the Cosmetic usage the plastic surgery it's

Brian Atlaslike this constant creep like 20 years ago it was super rare for like a young girl like when I say like young girl like between 18 to 25 to do anything

Brian Atlasplastic surgery anything super rare because they monetize it now now it's super common for women to be getting filler that used to be bows that used to be for like 40 and 50 year olds now like

Eric (Osop)women in their 20s are getting this [ __ ] and there's this [ __ ] creep when I say creep like this creep of uh you know yeah I think it's because of social media and the fact that now you can monetize that CU now a girl who's very

Eric (Osop)attractive she could just start a social media account get only fans and get rich so the effort they were putting to get a degree or going to school now they putting that effort into just changing that body for a career so I think it's

Brian Atlasbecause of the times we live in yeah it's it's easier to get your body done than to go to school to be a lawyer yeah you can probably make them more more money too I don't know I mean it's I I understand the appeal because like

Brian Atlasthere's a lot of privilege when it comes to being good-looking like there's a lot of benefits that being attractive confers when it comes to finding a boyfriend finding a girlfriend um just in life in general that you know if they they've done

Brian Atlasstudies like people are better looking they get paid more they end up doing better pretty privilege pretty privilege exactly so but uh I don't know it's just uh only fans man I don't know y'all any

Brian Atlasonly fans I don't think anybody Enthusiast in here Enthusiast like I'm get funny but y'all do only fans anybody does o it kind of looks like you're making a face what's going on there are

Eric (Osop)you a stripper or something no I like used to but I stopped ah we got one used to we don't have one not active though how long how long was you only fans I

Eric (Osop)don't even want to talk oh God did you se you did other kind of sex work like escorting I mean you don't got to do nothing nasty to be only fans some girls just be baking cookies and they drawers or some [ __ ] so yeah I was just real

Peytoncute with it you know like just little sexy thirst trap pictures and stuff I'm gonna have you read this chat Ray Bas thank you for the Super

DestinyChat I feel like dot dot dot a man would wife me up because I'm smart and Ambi ambition istic maybe you said

Destinyambitionist LOL wow she's ambition I think she okay maybe I should have said my lips are fat like you're what you said ambition istic you said that no

Peytonwait you should have said your what her lips are fat what lips why what's wrong with him iism you know that's a real wordis is word ambis that's a word I

Brian Atlasdon't know Ambat tronic oh ambition istic and he might have just made made a way she's an abolitionist oh wow are you an AB abolitionist today I am are you an

Brian Atlasaccelerationist uh oh hold on never mind sorry s sorry sorry shouldn't talk about that acceleration is De next topic it's like wait are you what you are you white

Brian Atlasor like Hispanic yeah I'm Hispanic Latin you're you're What Hispanic she said oh okay never what's your nationality I'm

Peytonblack and Caribbean and what Jamaican fian no my family is from the St Thomas Virgin Island okay okay that's what's up

Brian Atlasokay are you huh are you oh boy should I tell them should I tell them what I am no tell tell them when I am he's from no I want you to say it I'm tell I'm

Eric (Osop)telling him he's from he's half American half no Eric Russian you're half tell tell them you're half American and Moroccan

Eric (Osop)no Eric you're from algers North Africa right Eric what tell them what I I know what you think you are no no no tell them what I am who does he think he thinks he's an

Eric (Osop)African-American but I think he's more of a like what's I don't consider myself African-American like that's a whole another conversation though but that's another conversation DM me we'll talk about um he's he's from alers right your

Brian Atlasyour father your mother's from alers right yeah but that's that's in North Africa my mom was born in America technically I'm so he's technically technically African North African or in historical times you'll be considered a mul or marceco but you could be a white

Brian AtlasAfrican yeah no but that doesn't mean you're africanamerican I'm not black okay I'm not black okay okay but I am African-American I'm where were you born huh where were you born Europe what oh

Brian Atlasyou was literally born I was born in France yeah oh oh you oh man so I'm confused what why are you saying you're African-American well my dad was born in Africa my mom was born in

Brian AtlasAmerica but African Amic is black African no I'm not black I'm definitely have you seen how pale I am he's just putting the words together he just put

Brian Atlastogether was your father born almost as white as look at that hold on you're Jackie you can't even see the wall bro you're not African it's just like it blurs together so it's your father like

Brian Atlasfrom Europe but was born in Africa or he was born be a white he was born in Africa you can be my dad was born how does he look though cuz I could be born

Brian Atlasin China but my parents are from Detroit that don't mean I'm Chinese I am 0% black I'm africanamerican though no based on the he's right technically

Ninaytechnically he's African and American no I'm africanamerican no I don't I don't like person born in can that doesn't make me Canadian technically huh my dad

Ninaywas born in Canada but we're Asian it doesn't make me Canadian I wasn't born in Canada that's your nationality but you're saying because your dad was born in Africa you were

Brian Atlasborn in Europe that Associates you with yeah that's nationality no no like my dad was born in Africa like for example if your dad was born in Germany and your

Eric (Osop)mom was born in America she'd be like German American or some [ __ ] no but Amer he being funny but but but but genealogy you from Europe your family

Andrew Wilsonboth SES from German American yes yes I'm European absolutely but yeah but if you're wait if you're African-American then you also have European lineage

Andrew Wilsonalmost all African-Americans have at least some European lineage in I mean any America talking 90 95% African-Americans usually yes because wees yeah there no I'm not I'm not k

Andrew Wilsonabout that that is true no you're right we know that that's a fact we were enslaved yes didn't we all come from Mesopotamia well we all came well we all actually came from Iraq which was that's

Brian Atlasthat's where the Garden of Eden was was in Iraq but so I am white and European and definitely not

Andrew Wilsonblack but I am African-American and Desmond CH chill it's all it's all it's all just it's all just a bunch of ID Poole category errors

Andrew Wilsonessentially so it's just everybody's just mixing up ethnicity with the idea of race and then they're trying and then they and then they throw a bunch of identity politics in there in order to make distinguishment between race and

Andrew Wilsonethnicity that's all it is it's it's all just dead pulled on there really is no wrong answer because it's all just made up [ __ ] also ultimately just made up garbage I do want to say on Sunday show

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