00:00:14Brian Atlaswelcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape I'm your host Brian Atlas we are coming to you live from Santa Barbara California every Sunday and Tuesday at 5:00 p.m. Pacific a few quick announcements this podcast
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00:04:03Brian Atlasyou're watching the show and then disclaimer the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever Channel with that said without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so
00:04:13Destinyplease tell us your name age location an occupation go ahead hello I'm d i do YouTube and I have my own podcast age
00:04:24Brian AtlasI'm 24 24 okay what do you do on YouTube smoke a lot of weed smoke weed every day yes all right uh sound yeah um that's
00:04:36Brian Atlaswhat I do so you're uh a cannabis Creator I don't know what is there is there a term for it or cannabis influencer cannabis influencer okay the
00:04:45Brian Atlasbest job in the world all right uh and you said you're from La did you okay what part well I'm from San Diego but I live in LA now gotcha you grew up in San Diego yes okay got what about you are
00:04:58Peytonyou are you high right now of course just just comes with the territory yeah it's just who I
00:05:07Peytonam okay my name is Peyton I'm 26 born and raised in Los Angeles I'm also a YouTuber and a streamer all right uh what do you uh stream um I stream me
00:05:20Brian Atlasplaying video games also like cooking eating and getting high all right very cool and you're from La you said yes okay got it well about
00:05:29Winteryou hi my name is winter coming from Utah I'm 35 years old and I am an investor all right uh inv what sort of
00:05:41Andrew WilsonInvestments meta gaming g what what do you mean gaming investment like uh video games or you talking about like uh gambling what what is meta yeah it eventually it'll it
00:05:54Winterturns into gambling it turns into shopping uh it's not quite into production yet but it'll be from meta yeah I I have no idea what that is yeah
00:06:04Winterit's a surprise you're going to love it everyone's going to love it okay all right what about you hi I'm NY I'm also from Los Angeles moved is mine out I don't know no oh it's maybe because we
00:06:17Ninayscooted you over possibly no you're good go ahead I'm ninan from Los Angeles and I'm 24 all right what you do for work oh yeah I'm in marketing and media so I help behind and in front of the camera
00:06:28Lilyokay what about you hi I'm Lily and I'm from Fontana California and I'm a model all right welcome Lily how old are you I'm 24 24 all right welcome welcome I'm
00:06:40MorganMorgan I'm 18 and I currently go to Santa Barbara City College I'm Ana I'm 19 and I go to
00:06:51Eric (Osop)UCSB it's your man Eric AKA osop um 39 by way of New Jersey um construction management I also have a YouTube channel
00:07:00Eric (Osop)and the Instagram page you can follow me at osop and oshu radio on YouTube peace Andrew what about you yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I'm
00:07:12Andrew Wilsonthe host of The Crucible it's a popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst a political saturnist and uh I enjoy doing conversations debates all over the world and I'm glad to be having this conversation here with
00:07:23Brian Atlasyou guys tonight all right welcome Andrew so uh also I did want to ask on around the table before we get into everybody's relationship status uh any school College
00:07:33DestinyUniversity yeah I dropped out of college okay what were you studying um I was my major was business and marketing but I was going to a fashion school so I was
00:07:44Brian Atlaslike oh Fashion like um what is it fidm or yeah okay a lot of YouTubers go there wanted to be like them did you go to
00:07:53Peytonlike uh like a non-fashion school though no okay okay what about you school any school um yeah I graduated from UCLA in 2020 with my uh degree in Psychology
00:08:05Winterbachelor's Masters Bachelor Bachelors okay Bachelor of Science or art um arts arts okay what about you straight out of high school I did Fitness and Nutrition
00:08:15Brian Atlasand was a personal trainer for a while and in my early 20s I did emergency they eating our ads oh they're eating our cats I turned that [ __ ] it should not be
00:08:26Brian Atlascoming through on [ __ ] uh on from Super chats you scoundrel um all right we're going to have to disable the TTS monster I don't know why that here I'll
00:08:37Brian Atlastry to fix it um school though College University or was that for the fitness and and then the EMS nope those are just trade schools trade school okay but no
00:08:47Winterlike uh two College okay you said uh EMS yes sir an ambulance driver not an ambulance driver I actually just ended
00:08:58Winterup working as a Good Sam maritan without getting licensed and then getting the uh knowledge is based happy to see him back on France women are men and it would be
00:09:09Brian Atlasgay to date one that's great um all right you got to go ahead you got to go ahead and uh hide the TTS monster um on
00:09:17Brian Atlasall the tabs go Center Zoom go split sorry guys I don't know there's a spec on your hoodie bride window dude on uh
00:09:28Brian Atlaswindow town it do it on window tab do it on videos I that might fix it but I'm not
00:09:38Lilyeven sure um any school for you yes so I went to SDSU and I love burritos Brian just like you sons of
00:09:50Brian Atlasyou um thank you guys appreciate it freaking TT ice TTS monster H okay that's and not gay thank you for that I I appreciate that
00:10:02Brian Atlasit just like spam how did I disable it last I don't even here I'm going to pause the que can I just pause the queue I don't know if that's going to do anything uh we'll see um school yeah so
00:10:13Brian AtlasI went to SDSU for graphic design okay uh so you got your bachelor's or yes okay and so did you schol me yeah my bad school I was like I'm still in school and you know when
00:10:25Brian Atlasyou're in that stage of school where it's like you're going for something but you kind of want to switch which I'm there so I didn't really know how to answer the question oh can I have you scoot your mic down that way just a bit scoot it down scoot it down yes perfect
00:10:37Andrew Wilsonokay so you're still in school uh are you pursuing your you have your Associates or business marketing yeah okay got it cuz I already my field to the girl in the yellow shirt I'm sorry you when you said you were doing EMS uh
00:10:50Winteryou said you were doing volunteer so you were you were doing like volunteer EMS work afterwards ultimately that would be the goal is to cuz with EMS you have to
00:10:59Winterget recertified every 2 years so my goal would be to get recertified again and do officially volunteer work but the last time I did it I just stayed as a Good
00:11:12Brian AtlasSamaritan uh to where basically if I was passing an accident or something like that yeah gotcha okay thank you all right um unfortunately I had to disable
00:11:24Brian Atlasuh the stream the TTS monster I'm not sure why it's allowing those uh to come through very peculiar not sure why but
00:11:32Brian Atlasum so uh let's see here oh you know what maybe it requires like a refresh yeah well not going to be able to do it um so going around the table what's everybody's relationship status if
00:11:45Brian Atlasyou're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead single as fudge my longest relationship was
00:11:57Destinyprobably like um a year and what was the other question how long have you been single for too long just kidding um like a over a year
00:12:09Brian Atlaslittle over a year okay uh the relationship that ended a year ago was that your one-ear relationship no that was like one of like the very first you know how long was the relationship that
00:12:21Destinyended a year ago um four months four months okay who broke up with who um um I broke up with him was down
00:12:31Brian Atlasto give him another chance and he was like no I was like okay and so embarrassing okay and the one-year relationship who broke up with who uh I
00:12:43Peytonbroke up with him you broke up with him yeah okay uh all right what about you um I feel like I'm basically in a relationship it's just not like an
00:12:53Peytonofficial title to it yet but uh yeah uh okay so we'll just say relationship how long have you been seeing this
00:13:03Brian Atlasperson um on and off for like over a
00:13:08Brian Atlasyear enough for over a year okay um all right has there ever been a
00:13:19Brian Atlastitle no no title okay longest relationship not long like this is my longest relationship this is your longest s sort of kind of relationship
00:13:31Peytonyes how many times has it been on and off um I want to say like three or four three or four times who would initiate the off me who would initiate the back
00:13:41Brian Atlason me so you'd break up with him or end things and then you'd go back to him yes why do you break up and things I guess or
00:13:50Brian Atlaswhatever um just not feeling like fully satisfied I guess sexually no no no not
00:13:57Brian Atlasno no no okay okay uh in what ways were you not fully satisfied um I feel like it was more so just like
00:14:08Peytonhow I was being treated um and also just having like a lot of like emotional baggage and like Trauma from past relationships I feel like that was kind of like affecting the
00:14:20Peytonway that I was treating him and like thinking like thinking he was treated me so um yeah and also just wanting to like keep my options open sometimes during the course during the
00:14:32Peytonpast year have you been involved with any other men no even during the breaks okay no during the break yes but oh yeah that's that's what I mean but like yeah on when we're not on a break
00:14:44Brian Atlasno not dealing with other men okay and then um I'm trying to think here so it's been on and off a couple different times uh do you want the title and he's
00:14:55Peytonnot giving it or what what's going on there um no I just don't think I'm ready and I think he knows that I'm not ready oh so he wants to be boyfriend girlfriend but you're not ready
00:15:06Eric (Osop)something like that then can I ask you a question um did your previous relationships change your expectations or lack thereof with your current guy definitely okay make sure y'all takeing
00:15:18Eric (Osop)notes cuz I've been saying that for like the last two episodes that it's not necessarily about the bodies it does matter but it really matters what type of God they was with so I'm glad you confirmed that for me cuz I be saying that and cting I'm crazy but I'm I'm
00:15:30Brian Atlasglad you just said that uh so you said you want to keep your options open what does that mean wanted wanted I'm not saying that right now not right now yeah when I when I
00:15:41Peytonfelt that way it was more so like feeling like I could do better but then sometimes I guess my mind changes and then it's like honestly I think that somebody is better and like later down
00:15:53Peytonthe line I'll find out that they're not like a lot of men just want to like waste my time or like you know just interested in me sexually but like this is somebody that I know really loves and
00:16:02Eric (Osop)cares about me like like nobody else it sounds can I jump in yeah yeah yeah it's I'm not I don't want to be funny but are you like playing with him a little bit it sound like you like you know he's there so like you're not taking him
00:16:15Eric (Osop)serious cuz you feel like I'm he's never going to he's never going to leave you so you see if you can do better but you find out you can't you come back to him and like it sounds like that is that
00:16:23Peytonwhat you're doing um um no because okay okay I did it once but that's not every single time we fell off it wasn't that like it was also just me like I can admit I was tripping like
00:16:36Peytonjust thinking he was doing [ __ ] I mean just think he was doing things that he probably wasn't even doing and I was just overthinking like that's something else that came into play like it was multiple reasons why but yes when I when we like first started and I was keeping
00:16:48Peytonmy options more open it was kind of more so like yes I know I have him and I kind of want to see what I have to like my other options that I have too but he also had options when I had my options so it wasn't like I'm playing with him like he knew I was always honest about
00:17:00Ninayit can I ask a question though did he ever like initiate oh I do want to be with you though or like you know put that um leadership in for that yes is he the assertive type or is he
00:17:12Eric (Osop)more like the passive kind of guy very assertive really yes and he he and letting you do all that letting me do all what play with him I'm not playing with him you definitely playing with him you got him on a yo-yo but you know
00:17:23Eric (Osop)that's on him shout out to you man I couldn't do it uh y can you like elaborate a little a bit more on that for me indubitably um I think that if you really like me personally if I like
00:17:36Eric (Osop)somebody and I'm expressing that you're not going to be able to I'm not a revolving door because it's it's setting the expectation that you're the prize not saying that women not the prize I'm not getting into that conversation I think we both the prize depend on the
00:17:47Eric (Osop)situation but I think if you allow a woman to keep doing that with you you're telling her that she got you and you're kind of like optional and she's like your destination I think that sets a bad
00:17:59Eric (Osop)precedent moving forward because at some point you're not going to really respect him as much as you probably would respect the guy who says either me or the highway in my opinion that's just my humble opinion I couldn't tolerate that cuz it's like if I'm not your first
00:18:12Ninaychoice why should you be mine he is my first choice you can choose him I mean she kind of is if she's still with them right now because let do it but they not really together they in a
00:18:24Peytonthey in a situationship right it's not even official I don't know that's true that is true um another they said it's hard for
00:18:35Peytonme I guess to open up about this like publicly just because of my platform so I don't want to like just throw it out all on the table but like there's like it's not him it's me of course it is
00:18:48Eric (Osop)like I like I'm not BL with him like I love him I think I think you probably probably you know you're attractive young lady you probably just got a lot of options and it's probably overwhelming you you probably don't know what to pick I don't even want those
00:19:01Eric (Osop)options truthfully cuz they don't love you may not want them but you have them okay I mean he probably has them too though yeah he does it's a little different though he did admit earlier he does but he want her so obviously his
00:19:13Peytonoptions better than his options like but that's just what kind of being bigh head he said he want her she said I don't know yet I never said like I don't know yet like I do want him didn't what you
00:19:23Brian Atlaswaiting for a nice proposal th is of the essence man and nice proposal you got more or oh no no that's
00:19:33Winterit you know she's of relationship status single uh always been single I've dated never been in a relationship okay uh longest time I
00:19:45Winterdated someone without ever becoming a relationship it's 10 months other than that probably just the traditional 3 months that's like all the time once you get to know swim for 3 months you know him enough by then to know if it's going
00:19:57Brian Atlasto work out or not so 5 years you never had a boyfriend that's correct Jesus okay that's correct all right uh but you did say
00:20:06Brian Atlasthere was one guy you saw for like 10 months yeah 10 months okay uh when's the last time you've been on a date with a guy oh the last time I've been on a date
00:20:17Winterwith a guy was recently um I don't know a couple weeks ago okay are you celibate yes how long You' been celibate for years years and years how long
00:20:29Winterum back to 2017 so you've been celebes like seven or wait seven eight years yeah yeah except for that one person in there in
00:20:41Brian Atlas2021 wait that that was the 10-month person who you were having sex with yes so you've been celebrated for 3 years and then but there's like one person in yes wait so okay so you you've been celebrate for 3 years there's the
00:20:54Brian Atlas10-month guy and then you've been celebrate for four years you were celebate for 4 years but before him correct is that okay all right yeah all right
00:21:03Brian Atlasum what was so special about this 10mon guy actually the celibacy longest actually it's kind of a messed up story so I guess this is the perfect place for
00:21:14Brian Atlasit you know what let's get everybody's relationship last we'll we'll get into it but let's get through everybody before we get okay what about you um I'm single all right how long you been
00:21:24Ninaysingle for um a while actually cuz my only one real relationship that I would say was like a real relationship of 5 years I ended that in like 2020 okay so
00:21:35Brian Atlasyou were in a 5 year that's your longest relationship mhm and so you've been single for like four years for almost five years yeah five five years almost we're getting there uh okay and your The
00:21:46NinayFive-Year relationship who ended it I did it was a mutual agreement but originally I started the the process of it okay
00:21:56Brian Atlasmutual breakup uh and um was there a specific reason cheating or just um life I mean it was like high school sweethearts we were
00:22:08Ninaylike so young and you're becoming a new adult and like um there were certain things I realized I wanted and like a partner and like certain things I needed to learn on my own and vice versa sure and I felt like I was we were
00:22:20Ninaycomfortable with each other and I wanted us to experience certain things in life and then you've been fully single for 5 years you haven't dated I was say casually dating I tried to give somebody a chance it didn't go well so I got
00:22:32Brian Atlasscared to date date again and I how long was that wasn't the 5-year guy though that was a different no this was after this is between the okay what's the longest period of time in this past 5 years you've been single that you've been you've seen anybody couple months
00:22:45Ninaylike was like consistent with somebody like couple months yeah a couple months to a year it would like it started a couple months and then within that same year like trickled out so like by the end of the year I was like I don't want so the total length of time you were
00:22:57Ninayseeing him was about year mhm did you call each other boyfriend girlfriend M did you say I love you like not that I love you but like love you have a good day did he say it
00:23:09Ninayyeah is there a difference between love you I think one is rooted a little bit deeper you know so like you say love you casually I feel like it's become to friends but if you're like dating
00:23:20Brian Atlassomebody he didn't say it either man this generation y' y a little different like it's it's deeper rooted okay um and when's the last time you've been on
00:23:30Brian Atlasa date or hung out with a guy in a romantic context or yesterday a long time you got sneaky link you got sneaky link right now you
00:23:41Ninaygot you got a C they don't make the cut they don't make the Rost no more okay no guys in the picture zero guys in the picture not in my picture actually going back to you zero guys in the picture
00:23:52Brian Atlaszero not even sneaky link no F friends friends with benefits no I don't do it like a guy who smokes you out and then you [ __ ] and then that's
00:24:02Brian Atlasit she get she has her own weed she has her own weed yeah we much weed they have too much weed are you guys roommates or you guys live together or smoking buddies they wish I'll smoke with her
00:24:11Lilybefore I smoke with somebody who's just trying to okay what about you I'm single and I've been single for two years single for two years longest relationship 6 months six months all
00:24:24Brian Atlasright was that the one that ended two years ago yes okay who broke up with who it was Mutual Mutual really okay so both at the same time you guys were like [ __ ]
00:24:33Lilyyou it's over basically really well it was like going bad already fizzle huh was it a fizzle fizzle out um we were just not talking as much anymore and then like getting distant and we just
00:24:46Lilycame to conclusion that it's not going to work out oh was it was it a long distant distance relationship like from San Diego yeah so I graduated college I
00:24:58Lilymoved back home and then I was like I didn't want to drive anymore like Drive how far two it's 2 hours but I'm like it's valid I'm not doing that valid it's valid that's not even far like that okay
00:25:09Brian Atlasbut if you're doing that like y' can alternado meet The Middle come on man every day wait so um would you more often than not would you drive to him or would he drive to
00:25:21Lilyyou or actually okay so it's actually a girl but okay um no she was like really into partying and all that okay and then
00:25:32LilyI would be going down there more I was like I'm not doing this anymore okay will you ever with a man yes do you prefer women um like longterm do you prefer women probably a man okay so it
00:25:45Brian Atlaswas just like a phase or something or you just like both no I like both okay so you're bisexual yes um are you monogamous or are you poly I'm monogamous monogamous okay um what's the
00:25:57Brian Atlaslongest period of time you dated the man couple months 3 months maybe like four months did you consider this six
00:26:06Brian Atlasmonth was she your girlfriend yes okay um H but and uh you I don't know if you answer you split the time driving to each other uh well it ended like right
00:26:18Brian Atlaswhen I graduated college right okay I see okay 2 hours it's a bit it's too it's too much too much uh okay and you've been single for 2 years when's
00:26:29Brian Atlasthe last time you uh went on a date with a lady friend or a guy um maybe a month ago with a guy yeah was it just the
00:26:37Brian Atlasfirst date no it's like the third date sneaky link no did you guys have carinal knowledge who was carinal uh did you
00:26:47Brian Atlasguys hook up we did okay why haven't you seen him it's been um is it is it over he yes it's over wait so he was that the first time you guys hooked up on the
00:26:59Brian Atlasthird date or like you guys hooked up on like the first or second no that was the first time on the third date but it's not over because of that oh well if I mean if you say so what happened what
00:27:11Lilyhappened um well I was just texting him like once a day and like he didn't tell me that he wanted to communicate more with me wait he told you he wanted to
00:27:20Lilycommunicate more no he didn't tell me that until he ended it wait so I was not like talking talk talking him as much and I was like texting him once a day or
00:27:32Lilylike wait so he wanted you to text him more or I guess he wanted to call me or something cuz he called me once and then I didn't pick up I was like are you okay
00:27:42Lilyand then he was like yeah I'm good but then like once he told me that he wanted to end things he was like oh I called you that one time I thought it would make it a habit for us to talk
00:27:54Eric (Osop)more I think it's a generational thing it's like I men they expect I mean if you get to know somebody they expect to have some type of dialogue like how do y'all think somebody's supposed to talk to you just from a good morning text and that's it
00:28:07Lilylike how if you want to see if you want to talk to me talk to me in person wait oh okay what but y two hours away wait I'm confused I'm confused I thought that was the girl oh yeah the girl was way
00:28:19Eric (Osop)actually this guy was from San Diego too so I was like that's why I'm like I don't want to be driving to you but you got to think if this distance between you you're definitely going to want to dialogue a little more since you can't see him all the time well he could have
00:28:31Brian Atlasexpressed that he wanted to like call me more or like text me more there's no way that's the reason I'm sorry there's no way he wanted it he broke up with you because he wanted to talk to talk to you
00:28:42Peytonmore said no straight man ever he's I have the messages oh I want to text for more I've definitely had like instances like that where men did not like my communication and they stopped
00:28:55Brian Atlasmessing with I mean that's definitely normal be that happens a lot I mean it's like if she's if she's not responding to you that's one
00:29:05Lilything is that what this ER this era needs flash cards and [ __ ] you got I work or something I probably won't reply until like night time or like I was going on a work trip I was like hey I'm
00:29:16Lilynot going to be able to come cuz he wanted me to sleep over one time but but then I was like I'm not going to sleep over anymore cuz I got a work trip on Sunday and then that's when he hit me
00:29:26Brian Atlaswith the oh I don't think we see each other anymore damn okay all right yeah you fumbled I guess I mean did you like the guy um assuming he did since you slipped with him and liked him enough I
00:29:39Lilymean like he had a lot of traits and qualities that I liked in the man which were um he's like hardworking he actually planned stuff and he just put
00:29:51Eric (Osop)effort so let me can I ask you a question real quick what and maybe that's just how you feel but I hear that from a lot of younger women me why do a guy got to tell you he wants to talk to you like if I'm getting to know you and
00:30:03Lilywe dating you should assume I'm want to have a conversation here and there like why I got to tell you that okay but if he also wants to talk to me he could call me more than once or like double
00:30:15Peytontext me but y'all don't like that how you know that's what that's what they be saying I I I've heard a lot of women say you know I'm being text me blow my phone up yeah like blow up my phone you like but not enough to make him you're a guy
00:30:26Eric (Osop)so y'all like it cuz it feels Good to Your Ego and it's like yeah somebody on my line but it's not enough to make you reciprocate though that's the difference that's why you laughing yes it is no it's not I will blow his phone up like I
00:30:38Eric (Osop)will blow his phone up yeah to get that validation but if you blowing my phone up why you can't be my girl why are you blowing up somebody you don't even want to be with or you unsure about oh God sounds like ego a little just a little bit I'm sorry it does me are you s this
00:30:51Eric (Osop)not in general you when I hear that from from women cuz it's like okay if he like him if if you like him that much to blow his phone up why y'all can't really escalate the situation okay I'm not going to blow anyone's phone up actually like I don't got time for that yeah that
00:31:04Brian Atlasain't just that I'm saying that's what she but wait so so to be clear he would text you and you would just not respond to the point he had to like double text I would no he doesn't he doesn't double text me that's the thing doesn't but
00:31:17Eric (Osop)yeah he he's still texting you no he's not oh okay but like I would respond probably like a couple hours later yeah that's fine he he was kind of tripping to be honest he was you think it's tripping if
00:31:28LilyI text you at 3:00 you text me back at 9: that's cool to Y what what was the what was the delay what if yeah what was the yeah if she's at work if I'm at work like if I'm outside driving all day like I'm not going to be on my pH it don't
00:31:40Eric (Osop)take but 3 seconds to say hey um I'm a little busy but I'll talk to you later boom I see men like that we just want to be acknowledged we don't want your life story yeah that's I mean that is better that is better you feel ignored you don't want to feel like you cuz why
00:31:52Eric (Osop)would he double text somebody who's not text texting back to one text I already met you I already spent time with you so now I'm going with if I got to text you twice cuz a lot of women don't like that either I'm just saying y'all make it real I feel sorry for these young cats
00:32:03Eric (Osop)man y they need like a genie to deal with y'all like y'all be all over the place like if a guy likes you he's going to contact you in this generation y'all don't want to be bothered or love bomb so he's not going to double text you
00:32:15Eric (Osop)we're hoping that she know I like her right she know I want to talk to her we we want y'all to just figure that out why I figure it out why not just lay it out on the table for us like he did he laid it out on the table for you what what did I get him I'm talking about
00:32:28Eric (Osop)your guy he laid it out on oh yeah we talking about you now he laid it out for you and what what has that gotten him it's got him to be in my life still in your life a part of your roster no I
00:32:39Peytondon't have a roster it's literally just him just him that's I I don't know man I I'm getting player Vibes over here maybe it just be everybody gets player vibes from me I'm so loyal like I'm really a
00:32:50Peytonlover I'm really a lover a lover of what though yourself or ain't nothing wrong with that you might be in your me I do love myself I have to love myself in order for somebody to love me is that
00:33:02Andrew Wilsonnot true absolutely but you got to give it back sometimes I do I give him so much love I no well that I mean it's not true right I'm sure that there's tons of people who don't love themselves who are loved by many people right that's true that's facts that's
00:33:16Brian Atlasfacts people Le leave need the most love mhm uh since this guy the three date guy uh any
00:33:25Lilyrebounds no after him no anything after him um let me see um oh nothing
00:33:37Lilyserious so there's a guy in the picture right now there's no one in the picture what do you there's nothing sounds like there's something no I was just calculating like what's going on calculating uh there's no one in the
00:33:49Brian Atlaspicture though nobody no one there's no there's not a guy you're texting with even no okay all right what about you um I'm single uh longest relationship two and a half
00:34:04Brian Atlasyears I'm in a relationship um we've been together for six months and my longest one ever was a year all right Eric single is a dollar bill baby rock and roll uh oh we have a cut two things
00:34:17Brian Atlasto pull up real quick and then well three things the first thing is I don't know what the I forgot what the order is oh we have the let's do
00:34:28Brian Atlasuh Lily's she has a YouTube video now Lily this YouTube video of yours is your most viewed YouTube video 31,000 views
00:34:39Brian Atlasyou said you're a YouTuber 31,000 views I saw that was a model on your YouTube channel it's your most viewed video it's a 7c video um I do want to congratulate
00:34:49Brian Atlasyou on it um can you pull it up Daman muted or unut muted the title is girl eating a banana in Japan with a view parentheses best YouTube video
00:35:01Brian Atlasever and that that's congrats that's really good that was um so natural yeah maybe we can recreate it
00:35:13Brian Atlaslater I have some bananas here at the table do anything uh got some bananas there there they are Stellar yes it was a stellar content very creative very
00:35:23Brian Atlasit's do you think that you know um there's a term when comes to artists called uh a magnum opus do you know what
00:35:32Brian Atlasthis is no it is like your ultimate creation like uh you know there's um the cistin chap the cistin chap Leonardo da
00:35:43Brian AtlasVinci um like your sort of uh if you think about Mozart Mona Lisa right these would be all like Mona Mona Lita Pinnacle of your work like somebody best
00:35:53Brian AtlasAl like Beethoven it could be his Moonlight Sonata Mozart Maybe his recum is this your Opus Magnus
00:36:04Brian Atlasno okay you haven't created it yet not yet one day one day yeah one day maybe like a plantain or something that'll or perhaps an apple an apple maybe maybe
00:36:16Brian Atlaslike a mango I'm the mango that's a good idea that's a good idea and then I have another thing uh for for death destiny
00:36:25Brian Atlasright short for Destiny yes that's me that's you why wait no sorry um
00:36:31Brian Atlaswhat wait your Des yes and who's pton me oh my am I just sorry my papers were out
00:36:41Brian Atlasof order okay wait you're Peyton mhm yes hold on you're Destiny yes you're Peyton why and
00:36:51Brian Atlasyou're ninay yeah okay all right okay I I looked at your Instagram um you're a you're a
00:36:58Destinysurfer me a little bit uh pull that up I don't know how pull it up Lally I'm
00:37:06Brian Atlasnervous now uh play the scroll through the photos I just make it Safari one bigger there's one more one one more uh scroll down just a bit no you're in the
00:37:20Brian Atlascomments scroll down uh go back to the first one I need to CR critique this a little bit okay first off you're sitting way
00:37:29Brian Atlastoo far back on the surfboard secondly why are you in you don't you're never in the shallows like you're literally right in the shallow like what are you doing
00:37:41Brian Atlaslike you should be uh your your feet are probably touching the bottom they were safety your feet are like you you should
00:37:50Peytonnever be here like this is not a surf I can't swim I really just took this picture you can't swim and you on this yes this looks so good I had to get this
00:38:01Brian Atlasscroll through scroll through them again right yeah your feet are like touching the bottom definely you're like right at the the shore break yep I was you're right about you're way too far back on the sh you need to go back to Hawaii and
00:38:14Brian Atlasretake this photo you're way too you're too far back on the surfboard you're you're freaking uh nose diving the the bottom there and uh go backwards in the
00:38:24Brian Atlasphotos go back there's a guy paddling out you got to paddle out he's he's still getting through the short break that's okay anyways whatever got to work on that and um that's pretty much it for
00:38:37Brian Atlasmy commentary s so the surfboard and the banana thing all right uh pull up the first react Daman yeah the Tik Tok with the dogs
00:38:47Brian Atlasokay so ladies before before we pull it up uh tell me if you resonate with this you got got to go can can you go
00:38:59Brian Atlasf11 can you go full screen Tik Tok can you go full screen on Tik Tok no like at the bottom on the Tik Tok not through no
00:39:09Brian Atlasnot through f11 is there a full screen button no [ __ ] Tik Tok okay go ahead we'll just play it [ __ ] dog [ __ ] Tik Tok oh so this is me ignoring all the
00:39:20Brian Atlasred flags because I just want love so uh Play it Again Play it Again rep so you guys are that little dog yeah and the men you date and that's you
00:39:33Brian Atlasignoring all the red flags because you want love uh do any of you resonate with with that yes yeah video no no really really
00:39:43Brian Atlasanybody no no okay I know not as a all these girls come on the show oh I was in abusive relationship I was he was so toxic blah blah blah it's like you know
00:39:57Brian Atlaswhat I mean what do you mean okay yeah what do you mean me you know what I mean um well that's going to segue into kind of our one of our initial main topics of today
00:40:08Brian Atlasum are you guys familiar with this uh uh assassin who killed the healthcare or health insurance CEO in New York City a couple days ago you guys familiar with
00:40:18Brian Atlasthe story I just learned about it today um just curious who has who saw the uh his updated photos like mugshot you've seen it I've seen it seen it seen it
00:40:28Brian Atlasseen it okay um why we uh hold on how do I want to do this um let's pull up the New York
00:40:38Brian AtlasNYPD thing first all right and then click on the first one all right that's the mug shot of the guy and then go to
00:40:48Brian Atlasthe next tab that's a mug shot or sorry not mugshot it's excuse me CCTV next they allowed this okay and then uh so that's him yeah uh would you guys uh
00:41:01Ninaydate him after his murder or before his murder after okay the murder no no no
00:41:11Ninayno he's cute though M he's cute okay yep okay and um not his jail photos wait who's his arrest phot where's the mug shots in the little those we'll get
00:41:24Brian Atlasthose we'll pull those up all right so there's his eyebrows on that's kind of cute he's attractive post rest photo and then is there I think there's one more that's that's him
00:41:36Brian Atlaswhat's I I'm trying to think there's oh okay we're good we hiking with murderer that was scary do do any of you find Criminal men attractive just show of hands anybody how do you know if they're
00:41:47Ninaya criminal man right you mean like after like oh we go search up what about the criminal aesthetic no no you know the ganga look no I like person for who they
00:41:59Ninayare and if it comes with a little bit of fly gangsters then I might like it so I might like it on that person MH but I mean I like what you would call a white
00:42:09Ninaycollar Blue Collar people too who have like a regular job or like trying to be Samaritan the white collar look or I don't prefer either how I feel about that person in the moment in the time
00:42:20Ninaylike I really like you with the tatted up sleeve underneath I think it's called White play got you got you got you okay uh so have any of you dated a drug
00:42:33Brian Atlasdealer yes well you guys are drug dealers kind of right we legal legal technically I am because I
00:42:44Brian Atlashave my own brand have you have you dated a drug dealer I never asked questions that's a yes yeah by proxy i what does that I'm sorry what does that
00:42:55Wintermean what you mean by proxy like you were [ __ ] a guy who knew a drug dealer I'm no it means like he used drugs we with the whole situation but he
00:43:07Andrew Wilsonused drugs and every once in a while he sold them so technically but he wasn't like he wasn't like a dealer proxy that's not by proxy that's just yes you
00:43:15Ninaydated the drug dealer oh W then yes but it it was okay what about you um I mean I'm in the industry by what's it called by
00:43:25Brian Atlasdefault yeah well like excluding I guess legal drug sales oh then no I wouldn't say what about you I've been on dates with one before okay and then uh what
00:43:37Peytonwhat drugs was he selling um cocaine math heroin um well I've dated like multiple yeah I've dated multiple one was like strictly like just
00:43:49Peytonwe and then there was another who so like everything okay but we didn't date for long okay what about you strictly weird okay I thought you a ask no questions
00:44:01Destinyhuh I thought you a ask no questions how you know he was selling yeah I mean I'm if I had to assume oh man at least you ain't no
00:44:12Lilysnitch uh what about you everything oh what do you mean everything okay I don't know there was a guy you there was a guy that you were dating
00:44:21Lilyokay here's like cook um Molly Ecstasy okay mushrooms I don't know what sure next next question have any of you dated a man with a face tattoo I have so
00:44:33Destinygoing around the table yes and it was my name it was your what it was it was your name your name and you left him what who's the
00:44:43Brian Atlasaudio uh yes I left him wait have you dated multiple men with face tattoos with your name on it no no he was the only one okay yes multiple Oh no just
00:44:54Ninayone just one wait okay she's do the math do the math just one just one all right no um casually like been on dates with
00:45:05Brian Atlasor like not the long-term relationship how about uh three or more Hangouts yeah okay no no no I thought your boyfriend
00:45:17Brian Atlashad faced hats got it removed I could have sworn I I should just see I don't know all right um how about um
00:45:27Brian Atlashave any of you dated guy who while dating he was wearing an ankle monitor no no yes I don't think while dating but I have friends lot of
00:45:40Brian Atlasenthusiasm on that one I've had friends who've had to wear ankle mons but like I don't think anybody I've dated or while I was dating Lily no okay um have any of you dated a guy who while dating was on
00:45:50Brian Atlasprobation or parole yes maybe which one uh probation yeah for what kind of was it a drug crime
00:46:01Eric (Osop)trapping trapping what is trapping selling selling drug selling drugs an Atlanta based term trap drug the drug area is called the Trap the Trap like
00:46:12Eric (Osop)the another word for drug house or Bando the Trap so they call it the Trap so in Atlanta they call it trapping and just C on so everybody call it trapping I see okay trapping okay yeah you legal
00:46:23Brian Atlastrapping right now I see no okay what's the question again it was
00:46:30Brian Atlasthe uh was on probation or parole have you guy okay yes no no okay no have any of you dated a man who has been ah okay
00:46:42Brian Atlas[ __ ] it convicted of a violent crime like a murder or that's obviously pretty extreme a murder or uh assault in battery with Grievous
00:46:54Destinybodily injury been on a date I have or D I definitely have oh yeah I forgot I yeah you I've
00:47:03Brian Atlasbeen on a date but it didn't last mhm no no no no okay I definitely do um have any of
00:47:13Brian Atlasyou uh dated a man who has murdered somebody no no no okay um and then I guess final question on this then we'll get back to the reaction here on Luigi
00:47:27Brian Atlasuh do you guys think it's find it like either attractive or turn on seeing a man be violent towards another man yes yeah no no depends what the situation is yeah
00:47:40Andrew Wilsonit depends on the situation if he's fighting for me um about something simple like he's a boxer or he's a UFC fighter and he's you know he like he kicks the crap out of
00:47:52Brian Atlasthe opposition you wouldn't find that attractive oh yeah that's good I was thinking I was thinking more so let's say the fight is Justified he's not just
00:48:01Brian Atlasgoing around beating bullying up on some um you know he's not bullying people but in you see you're on a date with him
00:48:11Brian Atlasand uh let's say I'm trying to think it it has nothing to do with you nothing to do with you but some guy starts mouthing off to him and he beats the [ __ ] out of
00:48:22Brian Atlasthe guy and it's warrant it's kind of warranted uh would you find this attractive or a turn on no I think I'll be a little more scared
00:48:33Brian Atlaswarranted it's warranted defense but let's say it's warranted like how bad did he beat him up uh he didn't stomp his head in when he's on the ground but he knocked the
00:48:44Peytonguy out and then walked away did some damage that's cool if it's just like a one hit cool but if like he has like a whole fight like kills him or something that's kind of crazy fair enough um so none of would
00:48:57Brian Atlasdate Luigi no that I know some people that would date him though well in any case what's what's ended up happening is a
00:49:07Brian Atlaslot a lot of women online are like in love with him and they they were in love with him one because they thought he was attractive that original CCT CCTV
00:49:20Brian Atlasfootage that we saw where he's wearing like the hoodie it's kind of like this downward angle uh some some women have since now that they've seen his other
00:49:29Brian Atlasphotos I guess they're a little less attracted to him uh now but um the second photos we just saw those are still fine no he's I I think he's still
00:49:40Brian Atlasa good-look guy but a lot of girls they were like oh the CCTV footage I don't know whatever uh we have a couple things a couple of the Tweet Tik toks that we
00:49:50Brian Atlascan pull up of Luigi oh dude Tik Tok is scuffed I don't know why I won't let this go full screen okay yeah go ahead play it so uh when you're being chased
00:50:00Brian Atlasby a killer but it's the United Healthcare CEO shooter and then play it again so she's like running away but she's like oh it's Luigi and then she's getting naked because she's gonna wants
00:50:10TTS Voiceto [ __ ] him okay next our hot Co assassin turns out his name is Luigi 26 years old he's an ivy
00:50:20TTS VoiceLe grad did his undergrad and Master's at pen in computer science this my Ty he's a little young for me but H baby
00:50:31TTS Voicewhat is you doing getting caught eating how old is he at McDonald's and and curse you McDonald's employee for turning him in but I get it they up the
00:50:42TTS Voicethe reward to 60,000 maybe you needed that money I never understood those crazy women that wrote inmates in jail but um I doing
00:50:55TTS/Backgroundthat on hinge before or the fact that I start hold on start it from the beginning play it I don't know what's worse the fact that I match with this man on hinge before or the fact that I
00:51:06Brian Atlaswould still smash he is still hot I'm going to say I don't care okay
00:51:12Brian Atlasnext and then no scroll up okay I don't care free him okay um and I think you think people are sending him stuff in
00:51:23Brian Atlasjail probably maybe he probably make a bank right now yeah so uh I don't know what's what's the panel's thoughts on this I think the
00:51:31Lilywomen are mentally ill okay wait I go ahead go ahead oh well I was thinking like these women are just being unserious yeah I don't think they're for real or they're
00:51:43Brian Atlasjoking I uh I believe it yeah I too there could be some women who are joking around but like I think a lot of women kind of going to be writing him love letters
00:51:55Eric (Osop)trying to M try put money on his but historically a lot of murderers had that it was mailing Jeffrey DH had fans and stuff so we have something on that but uh going around
00:52:06Peytonthe T I mean any reactions they're crazy okay yeah I'm not surprise but I definitely don't agree I don't I'm not into him all right
00:52:17Brian Atlaswell pull up the Wikipedia article f11 uh so there's this term hopia so it's a paraphilia involving sexual interest in and attraction to Those who
00:52:28Brian Atlascommit crimes the term is make it bigger please uh the term is derived from the Greek word whatever the [ __ ] that is meaning to
00:52:38Brian Atlascommit an outrage against someone uh many high-profile criminals particularly those who have committed atrocious crimes receive fan mail in prison that
00:52:49Brian Atlasis sometimes Amorous or sexual presumably because of this phenomenon while less common the aggressive type of hrist ailia can occur in men with female serial killers although they do state it's far
00:53:01Brian Atlasless common in some cases admirers of these criminals have gone on to marry the object of their affections in prison and then scroll down a little bit causes uh so these are some of the
00:53:13Brian Atlascauses some believe they can change a man as cruel and Powerful as a serial killer others see the little boy that the killer once was and seek to nurture him a few hope to share in the media Spotlight or get a book or movie deal
00:53:24Brian Atlasthe notion of the perfect boyfriend she knows where he is at all times and she knows he's thinking about her while she can claim that someone while she can claim that someone loves her she does not have to endure the day-to-day issues
00:53:37Brian Atlasinvolved in most relationships there's no laundry to do no cooking for him no accountability to him she can keep the fantasy charged up for a long time others offered reasons along the lines
00:53:47Brian Atlasof some mental health experts have compared to fanaticism they view such individuals and insecure people blah okay scroll down scroll down uh there's some not notable examples so
00:54:00Brian Atlasokay um there it is um but none of you want to makes sense though yeah does it make sense yeah some people don't want to deal with all that but they still want
00:54:11Brian Atlasto L so and I think uh what is kind of interesting though obviously I I don't think most women want to date uh serial
00:54:21Brian Atlasmurderers right or like a murderer or an assassin but I do think it it was it is sort of like an indicator of like sort of a lower
00:54:32Brian Atlaslevel like female psychology when it comes to attraction to not necessarily men who are murderers but men who are the bad boy the bad boy archetype much
00:54:44Brian Atlasmore women are attracted to this archetype and so on a lower level I I find this interesting and you don't really encounter this to the same degree
00:54:53Brian Atlasin men and so I wonder kind of why maybe Andrew you have some thoughts maybe Eric you do too absolutely Andrew you want to take it
00:55:05Eric (Osop)all right go ahead man um I mean that's a lot of reasons but I think you know the media has a lot to do with it um over the last 30 20 years I think the bad boy I think women always attracted
00:55:17Eric (Osop)to a guy with the edge I think that's always been innate in women they always look for the man that shows some type of dominance but I think through the media through music through films they have
00:55:27Eric (Osop)definitely um propelled the image of the criminal and made him look like the epitome of manhood to a lot of women especially if you grow up in inner city so a lot of times women can't you know
00:55:38Eric (Osop)they don't ex they accept that irrationality as bravado when it's really just the dude is a little slow he don't know how to express himself through his thoughts and his mind so he got to express it with balance and when