RAGE QUIT CRASH OUT?! She REJECTED 3 Billionaires?! Hater DEBATES Brian?! | Dating Talk #265

Date: 2025-10-20

Duration: 8h 04m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBri (Matchmaker)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Hannah (NYU)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Sofh(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bella (SBCC)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Shay(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Bri (Matchmaker)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Mahi (DT263)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Karina(guest)

SPEAKER_14Kennedy(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentKarina's near-death cocaine OD experience: saw hell, heard God

Key MomentBri: turned down 2+ billionaires romantically

ControversySofh rage quits crying after conflict with Brian

Key MomentSofh reveals she fled a conservatorship situation and thought she was getting paid

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

8 guests: Sofh (tower climber), Bri (matchmaker who rejected billionaires), Karina (repo agent/born-again).

Karina Near-Death Experience

OD'd on cocaine, experienced hell (demons, torture), heard God's voice, became Christian.

Bri Rejected Billionaires

Turned down 2+ billionaires; money/status does not equal happiness.

Career vs Perfect Man

Would you marry a billionaire or pursue career? Extended debate.

Sofh Rage Quit

Sofh cries and leaves after conflict with Brian over show format criticism.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> Okay. Um, I'll give a quick response then I'll let you go. Um, my my primary argument here as to why I think this is the case. I think I kind of basically already made it. But if we look at our

Brian Atlasbiological imperatives, survive, reproduce. Uh, so both men and women, you need to, you make money to survive,

Brian Atlasfood, house, etc. All those things. So I'd be prepared to grant that the survival uh motivation is probably equal between men and women. Uh but added on

Brian Atlastop of that would be the I guess the reproduce side of the biological imperative. Uh men generally speaking are not assessing women for their

Brian Atlasability to financially provide. Uh it can be a nice little extra bonus like if she sometimes it can actually be a detriment for some for some men who are more traditional-minded. The the

Brian Atlascareer boss babe can actually be a negative versus a positive. Uh o overwhelmingly though I would say men prioritize other things in terms of what they find attractive in women. I'm not

Brian Atlaseven talking about looks necessarily. I'm talking about other characteristics, other personality traits than like ambition, success, etc. etc. Well, I think men can want a woman who's

Brian Atlasambitious, just perhaps ambitious in other ways, like family ambition, uh, you know, you could be health oriented ambition. Um, but career ambition

Brian Atlastypically not a massive priority for men. Uh, also there's just a women, not all women, but a good amount of women. I'd say the majority of women do

Brian Atlashave certain gendered expectations that men provide. Even even if it's just he pays for the first date, then we're 50/50 from there on out. Even this would create enough of a shift, enough of a

Brian Atlasmotivation, I think, uh albeit minor for men to just be more motivated to make money because I think both men and women, but you could even argue I think

Brian Atlasmen are more romantically motivated. Men are more like for Well, >> I think you could word that a little bit differently. Romantically motivated. I take issue with what you said. Um, >> wait, say that again. I didn't hear you.

SofhI'm sorry. >> You say men are more what? >> Well, you said men are more romantically motivated to do what? To provide? >> No. No. So, I would say um I think I think men

Brian AtlasWell, how about this? This is an easy one. I think men are more sexually motivated. >> Oh, for sure. >> And so, like >> for sure. Sorry. Like for most men probably like first few steps to even if

Brian Atlasyou're just like strictly looking for casual sex but there are men who want the total package. They want the girlfriend but obviously they want sex too. Men are just testosterone. Men are uh have have higher sex drives than

Brian Atlaswomen. Not to say that >> women women love sex. I'm not saying that men generally on average have higher sex drives than women. >> Yes. And like if the bottleneck to

Brian Atlasgetting sex is okay, we'll take me on three dates and you have to pay. I'm not, by the way, I'm not saying that that's like verbatim what women are saying, but just an approximation of the dynamic.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, if the bottleneck of getting sex as a man is you have to be somewhat >> financially coherent and like be able to afford the first date and pay for the

Brian Atlasfirst date. Uh, and also I think women are, you know, there's there's other factors that can make a man appealing besides just his willingness to pay for the first date, but being also

Brian Atlasfinancially secure is another component. Then men will do the thing that gets them the girlfriend or do the thing that gets them the sex. Whereas for women,

Brian Atlas>> I don't think you're like, if you want to just get laid, your money, I know most women, you probably want the boyfriend, too. But if you're just trying to get laid, the man

Sofhdoes not care whatsoever. He's not going to he's not going to praise you on your money when it comes to getting laid. >> Praise you on your body and and how you doll yourself up and how you dumb

Brian Atlasyourself down. >> Dumb dumb yourself down. >> I don't know. I just I just wanted to bring up the point that >> seems like a trope, but >> you know, I mean, at least I've seen Yeah. Men want a physically attractive women but

Sofh>> submissive to the point of being stupid because women having intellect I'm not talking about feminist I'm just talking about intellectual women scare men away. >> No completely disagree. Uh I think

Brian Atlasactually high intelligence is incredibly attractive for a couple of reasons. Uh I think primarily if you want to well if you want to >> at least when it comes to having kids if

Brian Atlasyou want to confer the maximum benefits to your kids it would be like good-looking and smart like I want high IQ children. So like this idea that men just want like drooling dumbass women.

Brian AtlasI'm not actually sure that's the case. Like maybe for casual sex maybe. But like actual long-term relationship, if she's a pleasant woman and she's high IQ, not a problem whatsoever. Go ahead.

Shay>> Okay. So, going back to what um a few of you guys said, I actually disagree that it is a biological thing. I think that men learn this through their environment. And

Shay>> men learn what >> um that provides >> to like that they need to be providers like you guys are saying that they're wired to do that. And I I think that it's something that goes back so far in history.

Shay>> It's conditioned. >> It's conditioned. Exactly. And that also kind of rel No, I'm I'm talking. That kind of relates to your point as well. >> Clarifying question, but okay. >> That relates to your point as well that

Shayyou're saying women have these expectations because men force that kind of you're saying it. >> Yeah. They enforce it. >> Men enforce it. >> Enforce and force. >> How do men enforce it? This is

Shaycompletely gyocentric thing. >> Can I finish talking? >> Well, I was responding to your point. So, >> I'm not done though. So, >> okay, finish your point then. Go ahead. >> Um, what I was saying was that

Shaymen have these expectations. They're learned, they're conditioned to want to provide. Okay. So that being said, women are then

Shaykind of forced into that as well to being the more submissive or the person who doesn't go out, make money, provide. They have

Shaythese expectations. So they telling a woman to stay at home or to not get a job. Like this is you're kind of saying that it's all on women, but it's really not.

Brian Atlas>> Well, I didn't actually say that it's all ing though. >> Well, I'm I'm saying that that this is uh something that women do tend to uphold, but I'm not saying it's strictly

Brian Atlaswomen or strictly men. I think there's a shared responsibility as it relates to this. >> I think that's just important to keep in mind, though. >> You you were responding to them saying they said that there's a nature

Brian Atlascomponent. So, I think that that it's I don't know if it's exactly 50/50, but I think that there's both a nature and a nurture component. But you think when it comes to like men paying for dates and

Brian Atlaswomen having an expectation that men pay for dates, do you think it's only nurture? >> I think it's a very high percentage nurture. >> We can all agree that this is a mix of nurture and nature just the perception

Brian Atlasthat is different. >> Why do women find tall men attractive? >> Well, that is a biological thing. >> I love my shortcomings actually. >> But hold on, hold on. But women have higher faculties and women have uh

Brian Atlasintellect and they can come to a determination that >> well hold on a man's height has actually really no no bearing on on really anything. Has no bearing on his uh his

Brian Atlasgoodness. It has no bearing on his virtue. It has no bearing on really anything. He can be a high earner. He can protect you etc etc. Uh so it's

Brian Atlasinteresting though women's attraction to uh tall men that's nature >> right like I said it's both. I think it's a very very high percentage um

Brian Atlasnurture though in your environment how you grow up. >> Well I I mean if it's nature there then I would say it's also nature that women are drawn to pro men who can provide and protect.

Brian Atlas>> Just going to chime in and say that I love my short kings. Thank you. >> It's not, by the way, to be clear, I don't know the exact breakdown, but I think it's a combination of nature and nurture.

Bri (Matchmaker)>> I don't think it's I don't think it's just just social programming. >> It's both. And can I say that I think that to your point about how most men

Bri (Matchmaker)don't necessarily care about like how much like how much a woman earns for instance, like in her career, and her job, etc.

Bri (Matchmaker)Maybe it's controversial. I'm sure it is. But I think that if a man does put a very high emphasis on this that it shows signs of femininity. And I'm

Brian Atlasjust going to say what I said. So >> I mean I I also it's a fair point. It's a good point. I I think that uh the more money a man makes in fact the less he cares. Whereas it's a bit the

Brian Atlasreverse actually. The more money a woman makes, even if she has the capacity to fully provide, like let's say she's a super high earner, she makes a million dollars a year, >> she's a high-powered attorney, she's not going to go date a male barista,

Brian Atlas>> right? >> She's going to look for somebody who's also highowered and high earning, too. She's going to say, "I want >> Yes. >> Uh equal to or more." That's right. Whereas a man's like, So, when a man

Brian Atlasmakes a bunch of money, his dating pool just opens up massively. When women start making more money, their dating pool shrinks because >> I mean, unless you're willing as a woman, high-powered attorney, to go date, like for example, the doctor, he'll date nurses.

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> He'll date the receptionist, >> right? >> Female doctor, >> she wants another doctor. >> She wants an attorney. >> Now, look, there's exceptions. There's always exceptions to the rule, but uh

Brian Atlasonce women make money, they want they want a guy on her level. Like, I'm I'm a pretty decently high earner. I'll date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A. Don't care. It's not even Look, don't have like It's Don't have

Brian Atlaslike an insane amount of debt or something, >> but I mean, look, if she's if she's really amazing, whatever. You got 100K of debt, whatever. >> But like, >> you would you you would really be okay with that >> if she's like amazing otherwise. 100K,

Bri (Matchmaker)whatever. Don't care. >> If she fits all like checks your boxes, attracts, >> fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. >> Nice. Wants kids and values, you'd be like, you would accept >> 100k debt, whatever. Don't care. >> Okay. >> Don't care. Like >> Okay. >> But I mean

Sofh>> that's fair. >> Like ideally at least no debt. Yeah. >> But okay, you have like a hundred bucks in your savings account. Don't get don't don't care. >> Can we work at Chick-fil-A to a mutual understanding across the whole panel

Sofhthat the fundamental male need to provide is a very rocky gray combination of nurture and nature. We can all agree that it is both. Now the percentage varies. I think it is, but I think other

Sofhpeople think it's mostly >> there is a nurture aspect and there is a nature aspect. Can we all agree that to some way or another there's a nurture and nature aspect? >> Well, I think she thinks it's mostly nurture. >> Okay, we're talking about a combination,

Brian Atlas>> but we're saying that whether the percentage is 10 and 90, 80, 20, it doesn't matter. There is nurture and there is nature. >> Well, I'm like this common ground thing. So, this idea that okay, well, if there's a massive difference between >> Isn't this how debate works? We try to

Brian Atlasfind some sort of like new. >> No, no, that's not how debate works. So >> understood. >> There's a massive difference between uh it something being 99% nature and 1%

Brian Atlasnurture and something being 50% nurture, 50% nature. That's like massive. 99% is basically 100%. >> I know. So sometimes it's nice to establish what it is we agree on so we can kind of get more into the specifics of

Brian Atlas>> Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> We agree that it is nurture and nature. Correct. Can we just set >> I don't even understand this this line of logic though. So okay like can we find some common ground between Republicans and Democrats? Yes,

Brian Atlasabsolutely. Like should we like get rid of uh like should murderers go to prison? Like 99% of Democrats and Republicans probably agree. Like who cares though? >> I don't know. Just something about this

Sofhfeels so cyclical. Like I'm I'm trying to sit here like isn't the point of a debate to find okay agree to disagree, you know? >> No no no not at all. That's not the point of >> any sort of compromise. is any sort of hey you have a differing opinion that I

Sofhdo based on your experience you have a different opinion than I do based on your experience here's where we are like here's where we differ here's why we differ this it just feels like we're just trying to argue instead of debate let's let's find some sort of common ground and understand

Brian Atlas>> well conversation might be the common ground thing but when you're actually debating uh unless I unless through my my rhetorical prowess if I can change your

Brian Atlasmind but this whole agree Agree to disagree. No, I'm good. >> Okay. >> What's the point? What does that even mean? Agree to Okay. So, you still believe what you believe. I believe what

SofhBut we agree that we both disagree. >> I think she wants to You want You're trying to find a common ground, right? >> Yes. I'm trying to find some sort of way like you've I' I've been able to from what you have explained, I'm understanding a little bit of the male perspective more. But it seems like

Sofhthrough all the women that have come through your podcast, it seems like we haven't been able to show you at least a little bit of what it is like to be a woman. >> Oh, I know. I've heard from thousand over a thousand women.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, you still uphold a lot of these like hard Wait, so I don't understand the I don't understand the the entailment here. So the entailment is I need to change my position. Why can't

Sofhthey change their position? >> How about we both do it a little bit? That's kind of the whole common ground thing. >> Yeah. you know, >> my mind has changed a little bit. Let's hope yours is too. That's kind of where we meet in the middle is this is cyclical. >> No, I believe I believe you can be firm

Brian Atlasin your beliefs and stay true to what you believe in. Um, so so I I don't understand this like virtue signal of like, well, we can like sing kumbaya and like ag like agree to disagree and all

Brian Atlascome >> low key. Yeah, that's >> let's find common ground. It's like I I'm fine with common ground, but your your common ground seems that you're trying to establish with the like nature

Brian Atlasversus nurture thing seems like uh token. It's like technically true. Like, but the difference here is she might

Brian Atlasthink that nurture is 90% and I think it's or 99% and I think it's 50%. So, go ahead. I think what the main point that she's trying to get across is that it this is starting to feel a little bit

Sofhlike an attack rather than a debate. And I think we need to kind of >> have a conversation. >> Yeah, we're having a conversation. >> It doesn't feel like an attack. It just feels like we're going in circles and I think let's let's try to bring some

Brian Atlasother thoughts in the not some other I guess. Well, I mean, we have other topics, but the to your point, the the point of debate is not

Brian Atlas>> I'm going to completely change my worldview to accommodate your differing position >> and mine vice versa. That's >> Yeah, but the point of debate, I mean,

Brian Atlasunless the your debate opponent is most people, even if they can be like proven wrong logically, are going to stick to their guns. The point of

Brian Atlasdebate, I'm not here to convince any of you. I'm here really to put on a fun show, but to con convince the audience, right? To convince the audience. Um, I don't I don't go into these ever

Brian Atlasexpecting to change somebody's mind. If I do, great. Mhm. >> But most people are so so hopelessly a nerd to their own uh you're so

Brian Atlashopelessly a nerd uh to your worldview that you're not going to like even if I provide compelling logic. You're not going to change your perspective. I don't really care though. >> How do you know that? I just haven't

Sofhseen proof of that compelling logic yet. If if anybody has noticed, I've already shifted a little bit of my mentality to understand some more of traditional values that maybe I didn't see at first. Isn't that >> okay then? Good. Happy for that. Congrats. I love

Bri (Matchmaker)that. Can I just say I think men and women are inherently different. >> However, >> both so both things can be true. However, we each need each other. I

Bri (Matchmaker)mean, let's face it, like >> a a world full of women alone is going to be catty BS. You know what I mean? No, it truly is. >> And then and then a world >> We should ask the We should ask the

Bri (Matchmaker)other women that. >> Okay. Okay. Well, can I just finish really quick? I was drowning. And then a world full of men alone, it's going to be completely lonely. >> Well, I'd actually like to ask the women

Brian Atlasthis because I actually hear this feminist talking point. Uh like me as men, I I would never want 50% of the population to disappear. I women are

Brian Atlaswomen are great. Uh don't think the world would be better without women. We need women, etc., etc. However, I hear a lot of,

Brian Atlasand you guys might object to this, but uh feminist position that world would be better without men. I'd like to ask that question. Would the world be better without men? And assume,

Brian Atlasyou know what? I'll be charitable. Women can just asexually reproduce. So, you can still have like baby girls, I guess. Uh, would the world be better without men? >> No, but the world would be better without toxic masculinity. Oh, no. But

Sofhthe world would be better without hardcore toxic masculinity and hardcore toxic femininity. But to put it shortly, no. >> So better with men. >> Yeah. I think men just need to chill the [ __ ] out a little. That's my standpoint.

Brian Atlas>> Which wording are you going with? Better or worse without with men? >> Uh would would the world be better without men? >> No. >> No. >> Absolutely not. >> No. >> No.

Brian Atlas>> Definitely not. >> No. >> No. Okay. Pretty reasonable then. Um, I don't know where we we even were here. We have some chats. I gotta let some chats come through. We have Teddy

SPEAKER_00Westside. Sorry for the delay, man. >> Appreciate the message. >> 29 donated $200. >> Have you met Ted? >> Some of these women just proved that they are willing to sacrifice their

Brian Atlasfamily for their happiness. Most men will sacrifice their happiness for their families. base careful. >> True. >> That is that's an interesting saying. Men will sacrifice their happiness for

Brian Atlastheir family. Women will sacrifice their happiness or sorry sacrifice their family for their happiness. Uh okay. Thank you. Teddy Westside

SPEAKER_00legend. Wait for it. Dairy. Sorry. Teddy West 29 donated $200 in the famous

SPEAKER_00if a man could sleep with a woman in box he wouldn't buy a house great panel tonight share one I can smell the cigarette smoke >> I can't even disagree with you Mr. Teddy

SofhWestside 25. You can hear it. >> I can confirm that she does not smell like cigarettes. >> I can confirm that I do smell like cigarettes. >> She's quite lovely. >> I like I like her. >> Thanks, man. >> Should we debate if she smells like government?

SPEAKER_00>> I like her. >> Hasty George donated $2004. >> Oh god. >> Many men find intelligence in women very appealing and attractive, but they are turned off by intelligent women who are

SPEAKER_00turned into neards when infected by feminism. fire. >> Yo, >> can we go back to the cigarettes? >> Appreciate it, man. >> Feel free to roast me. I love it. >> Appreciate it.

Sofh>> Keep it coming. >> Um, yeah, man. Uh, >> I smell like No, you don't. >> Smell like his best, though. I explored some abandoned buildings earlier. >> Okay. I could do kind of smell bad.

Sofh>> You should definitely not smell it more. >> Yeah, >> it's okay. >> It's not good. >> Wait, what? It smells like asbestous. What? Oh, I was exploring some abandoned buildings and >> Oh, you have asbestous.

Karina>> Asbestos. >> Great. >> Wonderful. That's great. >> Wait, so I had a question for you. >> Yeah. >> So, you had said that you would be okay with if she had $100 in her bank account. >> Oh,

Karina>> $100 in her bank account and nothing else, but you were kind of on the fence and not okay with her having $100,000 in debt. >> Wait, what? >> That's what you said. >> No.

Karina>> Wait, I don't understand. So, you said that you were okay if you dated this girl at Chick-fil-A, but you you made a lot of money, but the the girl at Chick-fil-A only had $100 in her bank account. You said that was 100% fine. >> Yeah.

Karina>> But you had a slight inclination, like a problem if she had $100,000 in debt. >> How are these >> I just want to know why? How are these conflicting? >> It's for my because I struggle with the

Brian Atlasdebt piece ever since I left Only Fans. So, I want to know why the $100 is different from the debt to you. Well, the difference would be that if

Brian Atlasshe has $100 in her bank account, I guess the entailment there is she doesn't have $100,000 in debt. >> The the two are not the same. You do realize that, right?

Karina>> Yes. Yeah. I'm just asking why the debt piece was so important to you to just you were almost to say no, you wouldn't date her. >> Well, can Okay, I guess I could put it super simply. So, you have two guys,

Brian Atlasright? Mhm. >> One of them has a net worth of $100 and then the and zero debt and then the other guy has a net worth of negative $100,000.

Karina>> Mhm. >> That that's the the issue. >> Okay. >> Well, so I'm just wondering why why the debt was just so important to you. >> That's it.

Brian Atlas>> Well, like in let's say it's like a traditional marriage dynamic. I I don't I think do you take on your partner's debt when you marry them? I think >> I can fact check it. >> I think you do. Can I don't know. Uh

Brian Atlasthat in any case that would be a financial liability in the relationship. I don't really understand what is not >> I just wanted to know why it was important to you. >> That's all.

Karina>> Well, yeah. It would be I mean it's not it's not like a positive thing to have. >> It's not ideal. It's not ideal. Yeah. But because when I left Only Fans, I had

KarinaI had a 780 credit score from last year, but my this past year of my life, I've dropped down to a 470 because I had to give up that huge chunk of income and I had like a lot of stuff go wrong.

Karina>> Okay. >> Um so I really would kind it would kind of suck if I met someone and they turn me down because I had all this this credit debt that I just obtained. >> Right.

Karina>> Okay, I see. So that's why I was asking. It wasn't anything against your question or what. I'm just like for my personal I'm like wow if that's really that important maybe I should work on it a little harder.

Brian Atlas>> Well I mean I don't know what kind of I'm assuming you want like a more traditional dynamic. You said you're Christian, >> so like a guy is going to be looking at the liabilities of a woman who he's

Brian Atlasinterested in long-term relationship with. um like uh coming into a relationship with $100,000 of debt and if you're going to be

Brian Atlaslooking to him to like help you with the debt, that's going to have >> some sort of impact financially on on you, the family. I don't know if you're planning on having kids. >> Um he's going to look at that as a

Bri (Matchmaker)liability. And he might say like, for example, >> okay, well, I can just date a woman who has zero debt. >> Mhm. It is a detractor I would say but I

Bri (Matchmaker)don't think it's an imminent no for some guys depending on how much you know depending on the type of guy they are so just depend what she was actively working on it >> like I get it >> I don't know if it's going to be a deal

Brian Atlasbreaker necessarily for a guy but it depends his financial standing >> it depends what you're if you're looking for him to >> yes >> save you basically I mean it really depends but um

Brian Atlas>> I I wouldn't say having debt is ever a positive No, >> like I don't think it's ever a positive. Some guy might be like whatever if I mean if if he otherwise likes you. >> Mhm. >> But that will be that I mean it's

Brian Atlasliterally going to be a financial liability in the relationship and in the marriage. >> Mhm. >> So, uh I'm trying to think of like a um Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> No, that's fine. I just had that question. I mean, but I even said like if the woman's perfect, um that wouldn't be a deal breakaker, but that the the point I was trying to make there was not make a statement

Brian Atlasabout uh my willingness to date women who have debt. My position there was more so to articulate that men really

Brian Atlaslike in terms of a woman's finances um even if you're a really high earning guy

Brian Atlasuh it is like the the 100k in debt that that's obviously less than ideal but men don't care about women's >> money really like if like to the same

Brian Atlasdegree that women care about it. >> Mhm. Like if again if you're a doctor and if you're a female doctor, female attorney, really good chance I don't care if the guy is really cool and good-looking,

Brian Atlaswhatever, you're probably not dating the guy who works at McDonald's, even if he's like a great guy and goodlooking or whatever, >> because I'm speaking in generalities here. >> Generalities. Yeah, but there are

Brian Atlasexceptions. some some super successful cutthroat lawyer is going to date a man Mc manager at McDonald's. I guess I mean >> go

Brian Atlas>> it happens I guess but it's it the I'm just doing a comparison here. It's way less likely. >> Of course. >> Uh >> a message from the government of Canada.

SPEAKER_00>> Pasty George donated $2004. >> Yo, thank you. Whenever a feminist's views and ideologies are challenged, they always resort to the I'm feeling attacked claim and or they tone police

Sofhthe conversation just waiting for the claims to come up. >> I don't know who that was directed towards Pacy, but I don't feel attacked at all. I I feel this is just a normal conversation and debate. >> Oh my goodness. >> So, I don't know where that came from,

Sofhbut I don't feel attacked at all. I don't think anybody here feels attacked. I think we're just trying to have a normal conversation. So, >> I'm going to do a couple I do kind of smell like I always smoke cigarettes. I don't even smoke cigarettes.

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Brian Atlasguys. And, uh, okay, I need to get up for a sec. Felicity, if you want to sit here and then as I get up, uh, you can switch to my seat when she's back. Uh,

Brian Atlasif you want to do like this this stuff. >> Mhm. >> This string of stuff. >> Okay. What years were World War I? >> World War I. >> Yeah. >> I'm going to be dead honest. I do not remember.

Sofh>> 1914 through 1917. >> Guess. >> Okay. 1914.

Bella (SBCC)And he said 1914 to 1917. >> Yeah, it might have been 1919, but >> what do you >> 1914 to 1918? >> I don't know.

Bri (Matchmaker)>> Guess 1914. >> Guess whatever she said. She sounded the most accurate. So >> you say 1914 to 1918. That >> what do you think? >> 1914 to 1918.

Kennedy>> 1914 to 1918. >> I'm not sure. I know. Oh. >> Oh, wait. Go. >> Sorry. Um, I know that it's early 1900s, so I'm going to say

Bella (SBCC)like 1910 to 1915. >> Okay. How about if you know it for sure, don't say anything. Okay. Um, yes. It's 1914 to 1918. What about World War II?

Bella (SBCC)>> Girl, I don't even remember. >> You got to guess. You got to guess. >> Uh, 1931. I really couldn't tell you. >> 1931 to when? I truly don't know.

Sofh>> You have to guess. This is fun. >> May I ask why? >> Um, >> the answer is I don't know. I don't remember. I'm off zero sleep and I can't think back to what I learned in freshman

Sofhyear of high school. >> How many years do you think it lasted? >> Uh, you're putting me on the spot. I don't know. Let's give it like five years. I I truly don't remember. I'm not a history buff.

Sofh>> I don't think you have to be a history buff. I just think I can remember what happened in high school, which I really don't remember because I all blocked it out of my brain. High school was rough. >> Okay, next. >> Around 1939 to 1947.

Bri (Matchmaker)>> Okay. What do you know? >> 1938 to 1945. >> Okay. What do you think? >> 30 to 45. >> 1938 to 1945.

Bella (SBCC)>> I'm going to say 1940 to 1945. >> I think nobody had a right answer. What is it? >> 1939 to 1945. >> I said 1940. Not too bad. Not too bad. >> I said >> one year off.

Bella (SBCC)>> Can we not do the history? >> Um, okay. Uh, >> more math, please. God, no math. >> Name three countries >> from what continent? >> Any continent. >> Algeria, Romania, Philippines, Moldova,

Bella (SBCC)Germany. >> Only three. Only three. And don't don't repeat, guys. That's why. Only three. Only three. >> Okay. Philippines, Romania, Moldova. Okay. Chad, Taiwan, and uh South Africa.

Hannah (NYU)India, Japan, and China. >> Italy, France, Spain. >> I was going to say Italy, France, Spain. Um, Ireland, Great Britain, or I mean

Bella (SBCC)Britain, depending on your opinion, Portugal, >> Italy, China, France. >> I think China was already said, and Italy >> and Oh, well, are we supposed to name

Bella (SBCC)ones that aren't? >> You can't you can't repeat. >> Um, well, I don't know what was said. I don't remember. >> I just throw out three new ones.

Bella (SBCC)>> Nope. Nope. >> Um, >> trying to help. >> I don't know. >> I mean, there's a lot of countries. You got this. You go to UCSB. >> I don't go to UCSB. >> Oh, you go to you go to college, right?

Bella (SBCC)>> Yeah. >> You go to college. I mean, >> they both go to UCSB. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Maybe that's why. >> Yeah, that's why. >> I'm just kidding. Okay. Um, but you have

Bella (SBCC)to guess. >> Um, Italy, China, France. >> I That's all I know. That's all I know. >> Do you know what country you're in right now? >> United States. >> Okay. Um,

Bella (SBCC)>> yeah. And like what's the one above the US? >> Canada. >> And what's the one below? >> And below the United States. What's below us?

Bella (SBCC)>> Um. Hm. Alaska, Antarctica, one of them. No, >> I'm sorry. What? E. >> No. No. Like what is below the United States? What country?

Bella (SBCC)>> I don't know. >> You don't know? >> No. >> Wait. I'm sorry. What? >> Is that like the border? >> You definitely don't. >> Oh, Mexico. >> Well, is Mex Mexico's like to the side? No.

Bella (SBCC)>> No, it's Mexico is not to the side, but Well, it's it's there. >> South of >> Okay. Well, I helped you with that. Um, what's your guess? >> Let's do >> or three three countries.

Kennedy>> Um, I'll do Korea, Croatia, and London. >> London's not a country. >> Oh, sorry. Um, let's do Korea, Croatia, and Kenya. >> Okay. >> Sorry,

Bella (SBCC)>> you're so funny. >> Chile, Argentina, and Brazil. >> Okay, now name a continent. Let's do Antarctica. Get it out the way. Asia,

Bella (SBCC)>> Africa, >> India, >> North America. India. Stop. No. No. We can't skip that. What did you say? You said India. >> Oh my god. Yeah. Um, North America. I just said North America.

Bella (SBCC)>> You just said North America. >> South America. >> Okay. You're up. Okay. We're not going to get to all the countries, but there's one left. >> Russia. >> Or not countries, continents. My bad. >> I was >> uh What' you say? >> Russia.

Sofh>> No. Was that >> that's that's not a contribution. >> That's a country though. >> Can I make an observation about the way this podcast is set up and designed >> Australia? >> Yeah.

Sofh>> Really really strong. >> Not a single break. >> It's it's very interesting. I've actually I talked to some girls and I was like, "Is there something I should know about this podcast?" >> What?

Bella (SBCC)>> What? >> I have a way to make her criticism until I'm back. >> Okay. and then so I can address it. >> Hurt. >> I just really got to pee.

Bella (SBCC)>> Okay. Um, should I do the minimum yearly income? >> Wait, what did you say, >> Brian? This >> uh, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? >> Minimum yearly income?

Bella (SBCC)>> Yes. >> Uh, if he makes 50 and I make 50, we can make it work. >> So, 50,000 a year. Yes. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Well, that also depends where I'm living. Like, are we assuming we're living here or >> wherever you want? Where do you want to live?

Shay>> I don't know. >> Okay, let's say you're in you're here. You're in Southern California. >> Um, that really just depends on what I'm making. Like, hopefully similar.

ShayI >> Which is like, can you give me a range? >> Hopefully like Well, I mean, I want to be making at least like 100K. >> So, 100 >> probably.

Mahi (DT263)>> Okay. What about you? >> 200 to like 400K. >> Dang, girl. That's a in Southern California. >> I mean, I'm not really from here. I don't really know the prices. I'm from Chicago.

Bella (SBCC)>> But I mean, like, do you are you planning to live in Southern California? Like, is that what your answer is based on? Cuz she was like, "Oh, the location." >> I mean, it's just in general. It's kind of what it would it would just match my job. So, just similar to mine.

Hannah (NYU)>> Okay. What about you? >> Minimum 80. Okay. I've dated guys making 200 to millions of dollars. So maybe like 200 honestly. >> Okay.

Kennedy>> Or less. >> 80 to 100. >> I would say in Southern California 3 to 500,000.

Bella (SBCC)>> Okay. Next. >> Probably 150 to 200. >> There was some high answers there. Um, but honestly I I can't I'm not going to

Bella (SBCC)debate you guys on that. I'm not good at that. So, >> what's your answer? >> Um, I put 150, I believe, because I'm live here and I'm from here and I plan on living here. >> Like 150 is good for Santa Barbara.

Sofh>> My answer is lower because I can never see myself like living in California. I would live in even if in the States, I'd live in like a rural part of either Montana or Idaho, Colorado. But to be honest, I might not even live in the

SofhStates. >> Montana's beautiful. >> Montana is beautiful. I actually applied like complete conversation change. If I get this job, oh my god, I'm going to be a rancher in Montana. Dude, I'm so stoked. >> That's what I do. I do seasonal work.

Bri (Matchmaker)>> Can I Can I just say the cost of living like is exorbitant and absolutely insane >> and I think we should talk about it because >> it's truly not okay.

Karina>> It's pretty bad. Um, >> you know what I mean? Like, come on. >> Yeah, that's kind of why I picked the the amount that I picked because I make between 80 and 100K by myself. >> You're scraping by >> and I can Yeah. So, it's like to have a

Bella (SBCC)whole family and a house and like >> totally it's not enough to >> Okay, I have another question. Uh, would Okay, listen. Would you rather cross

Bella (SBCC)paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike? Random. Random. >> Okay. Starting with you, chair one.

Bella (SBCC)>> Set me out on the hike. How far am I from civilization? >> I mean, >> black bear or brown bear. >> Doesn't matter. >> It's random. Um, you're Let's just say you're on like

Bella (SBCC)>> bear got kids. Is the man like is the man like a gay? Like, hey. Or is he like a scruffy guy? Like >> the man just like a random man that you would pass on the street? Which street, bro? There's a lot of

Sofhtypes of men out there. There's a lot of bears out there. Polar bear versus random like San Francisco gay dude. I'd always choose the gay dude. But if we're talking black bear versus some random Chicago tweaker, yeah, I'm going to

Sofhchoose the black bear. >> The point is that it's random, so you don't know. >> It's random, so I don't know. >> Yeah, it's totally. >> Do I have a weapon on me? >> Well, you're hiking, so >> So I probably on my hikes, I have taken knives with me. >> Okay.

Bella (SBCC)>> No weapon. >> No weapon. >> No weapon. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> [ __ ] >> It's like a regular hiking trail. >> Okay. I can out climb a bear.

Sofh>> Yeah. You're a good climber. >> I'm a good climber. So, >> I'm actually going to choose I'm going to choose the bear simply because I have more survival. I have a higher survival rate with a bear. >> Why do you think that?

Sofh>> I can climb like a [ __ ] >> But you're not You know, bears can climb >> and I They can't. >> No, you make a good point. I've actually come across a bunch of bears in Colorado and most of them they've been chill. They're they're they're pretty similar

Sofhto gators actually. They just kind of square you up unless they got kids or unless they're a brown bear. But if we're thinking average bear, average bear is a black bear. Black bears, as long as you ain't [ __ ] with them, they ain't [ __ ] with you. So, I'm going to go with the bear. >> Okay. >> That's just my stand.

Bella (SBCC)>> What's your answer? >> It's a person. >> The man. >> Yeah, the man. >> The man. >> The man all day, every day. >> The man. >> Man. The man all the way.

KarinaOkay. So, I actually got chased by a black bear up a mountain in New Hampshire. So, I know firsthand that I'm going to choose the man. >> So, >> so you're the only one that picked bear

Sofhand you picked bear because why you think the random man is more of a threat? >> It depends. Um, if both of them had a threatening demeanor, I'd rather I think I could

Bella (SBCC)outrun a bear before I could outrun a man. >> You know what? You're probably right. I've I've never been chased down by a bear, so I truthfully don't know. I truthfully don't know. >> You might not be able to outrun either, honestly. >> Yeah, good point. But I'd rather die

Karinafrom bear than die from man. >> What did you do to like >> How did I survive the bear attack? Um, so literally ran for a mile up this mountain. It took forever and I almost

Karinalike gave up and sacrificed myself to save my dog. Like I was just so tired. Um, but I was with a man, a guy, and he chopped up a branch and started just whipping them at the bear, and one of

Bella (SBCC)them got the bear in the forehead and it ran up a tree and left us alone. >> Okay. So, you But you think the random man is more of a threat, >> basically is what you're saying? >> To an extent. Yeah.

Sofh>> I mean, it's it's very situational. >> Why Why do you think that? I've maybe it's cuz you ever This is

Sofh>> You ever like walk through the Fort Lauderdale Bright Line Station at like 3:00 in the morning? >> Yeah. >> It's pretty bad. >> All then again though, actually, you know what? I will have to change my

Sofhanswer if it's a hiking situation. Most male hikers I've met, they're pretty chill. They're pretty chill. So, if it's a hiking situation, I guess I choose >> If you're on a hike, like Yeah, I was going to say, what type of men do you typically see on a hike? Like usually with

Sofh>> You're right. Yeah. Yeah. I get some like Alan Isacov type >> and they're very friendly. >> I was thinking like average city male and city bear, but like male hikers, they could be chill. I've had some great conversations with male hikers on the

Sofhtop of a 14er. Dude, >> what if it's a koala bear? Aha. Didn't think of that, did you? Oh, sorry. Don't don't >> Yeah. Don't Don't read them. Awful. Awful.

Bella (SBCC)>> Um, so but like a city man is like a regular man, too. And what do you mean? All I'm saying is that

Sofhwhen I randomly walk down the streets of Fort Lauderdale and I see a man, I'm in a lot more of a threat than I'm walking down a random trail and I see a man. So, I didn't put that into perspective of we're on a hike, so you know what? Sure.

SofhI'll choose the men. I could probably juke out the man, but when it comes to like threat, a man can do a lot worse things to me than a bear can. >> But like, why do you think the man would potentially be a threat?

Sofh>> It's just the way that I was conditioned. I I don't hate men at all, but I I naturally fear men. >> Why? >> Because of what has been done to me by

Sofhmen in the past. It's not all men, but in my case, it's always been a man. >> How many men do you think would be a threat? You want me to give it like a percentage? >> Sure. Yeah.

Sofh>> 20% but that's enough for me to be afraid. >> That's pretty much it because it's happened before and I'd rather just not take the risk. I'd rather just get

Brian Atlasripped to shreds than to bare to-do list. Oh, wait. Sorry. >> All right. I'm back here. I couldn't help but notice

Brian Atlasconveniently. You say you claim you're not very feminine, but well, I'll get to that in a bit. It was convenient when I stepped away. It was only at that moment when I wasn't here to defend myself,

Brian Atlasdefend the podcast that you wanted to do this sisterhood thing of basically trying to throw the show, my name, myself under the bus. I find that very convenient. typical femin feminine

Brian Atlasstrategy, reputation destruction, uh especially when somebody's not there to defend themselves. Now that I've returned to the table, though, >> that was not my intention. I apologize.

Brian Atlas>> You you seemed like conveniently when and Felicity is not uh no offense to Felicity, but she's not particularly equipped to make a defense of the whatever podcast. So again,

Brian Atlasconveniently, while I was gone, you chose despite What are we at? We've been streaming for nearly four hours now. You've had plenty of opportunity to raise your criticisms. The moment you

Brian Atlaschose to raise your criticism happened to be the moment I was briefly away from the table. Why don't I engage you on

Sofhyour criticism then? Go ahead. >> For sure. Okay. Um, for one, it's everything down to all bright white lights. I understand

Sofhwe're we're given water and everything, but something about being in here for maybe this is just because of my ADHD brain, but like seated here for seven hours at a time in constant

Sofhinterrogation and constant conversation and constant debate. That's the reason I've taken a couple steps out is just because the way my attention span works, I really I really can't stay like this for a while. And I've talked to a couple

Sofhgirls and they kind of say the same thing. it. Like I said, I understand that this is supposed to be a discussion, but it it seems like every every question has some sort of ulterior motive. And but you know what? To be

Sofhfair, then again, I didn't look at any of these podcast coming in before. I thought this was a dating podcast. Like y'all were going to ask me like ask us some silly crazy questions about like some dating experiences, but we're really doing like a deep dive into

Sofhfeminism. And to be honest, I'm not equipped for this. I was not mentally prepared to dive into a whole debate on gender roles. And you know what? Although I'm rolling with the punches, to be honest, my brain's fried, dude. I've been traveling non-stop and >> this has

Sofh>> 10 hours straight. >> Okay. >> 10 hour, dude. 10 hours total sleep over the course of a week. So, every time I pause on like an answer, it's like, "Oh, you're done." I'm like, "No, dude. Just tired, man." Like,

Sofh>> I don't know. There's There's something a little like I don't know. There's there's a lot of like police interrogation tactics like the bright overhead lights going right on you like 7 hours straight you're

Brian Atlassitting here just having the same exact conversation. It's like damn man. Let me have a smoke break or some [ __ ] Oh, you're right. Maybe I do need a smoke break. >> Okay, so >> but those are my just general

Brian Atlas>> critic. Lights feels like a like you're in a police interrogation. I mean the lighting is so bright in here. I typically they like the first off this

Brian Atlasis like a Hollywood movie trope the the the the swinging light at the dark room total trope. Maybe that was the case in

Brian Atlasthe 80s maybe. Um if you actually look at like modernity you look at modern police interrogations

Brian Atlasthe the room is lit. So I I don't understand that. Um, the bright lights. I don't know if you've ever been on a film set, but these are actually while

Brian Atlasbright. Uh, >> they could be brighter. I'm aware of that. Yeah, >> actually there's way more like I don't know if you've ever done anything on stage where the lights are literally blinding and you can't even see the audience.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> I I don't I don't really understand the criticism about the the lights. Um, you said we you were anticipating talking about dating. Yeah, I thought it I thought it was going to be like some

Sofhreally silly conversation. I was not equipped to dive right into all this. So, you kind of caught me off guard with a lot of these questions. And I will be honest with you, like, >> so I'll address that. So, I mean, um >> I should have done my research. That's

Sofhon me. I thought this was going to be like some some real silly just casual banter. I was not equipped. How how could that possibly be the case when you even admitted yourself that you talked to three girls or a few girls who had

Brian Atlasbeen on the show before? So, on one hand, you're playing the sort of game where you say, "Well, Brian, uh, I didn't know what I was getting into, but on the other hand, you talked to girls who've been on the show who told you what you were getting

Brian Atlasinto." Uh, secondly, >> I talked to them literally a couple hours before then, so I had like two hours to be like, "Oh, shit." Now, as I actually dispute though that we haven't been talking about dating, we've

Brian Atlasactually pretty much only talked about dating for the vast majority of the show. All that stuff about money, >> I made it I presented a really compelling case for why it's actually really related to dating.

Brian Atlas>> Money is related to dating. All the feminism stuff, it was still within the lens and framework of a dating conversation. I could go like if if we're having a feminism debate, if I

Brian Atlasstarted going off and like, oh, the 18 whatever Senica Falls Convention and blah blah blah and uh I'm trying to think of some some other stuff. If we started getting into like draft conversations and like women suffrage in

Brian Atlas1920, >> it's all in the lens of dating and I understand. >> Then we could be like, okay, we're getting a little bit off of dating. >> Yeah. No, I understand. But the conversation has been pretty much about like gender

Brian Atlasroles, dating, etc., etc. So there there's a confusion there. I guess though I mean you I think I don't know if you reiterated this. Um people are free to get up and step away

Brian Atlasfrom the table if you want to use the bathroom. We're not so people can take breaks. It sounded like when I was when I was away you were saying we are not allowed break. People can take breaks. You've gotten up a couple times. Other

Brian Atlaspeople have gone up a couple times. Um, we have food back there. We fed you guys. >> Appreciate that. >> So, I don't I don't really think that this is uh really a fair characterization at all. Uh, >> got pizza. There's a bunch of snacks

Brian Atlasback there. >> Actually, might take you up on that. I have not eaten today. >> So, but like is it typical is it typical in police interrogations that you're provided with breaks whenever you want?

Brian AtlasYou have a really sch snazzy bathroom. Uh, you're given food. >> You know, you do make a valid point. I I don't have any rebuttal against that because you do have a good point. >> Any of you, if I mean, we'd like you

Brian Atlasguys to say, but if any of you were like, you know what, [ __ ] this [ __ ] I'm leaving. >> We're not You're not detained. None of you were detained. None of you here. Like, you can't just walk out of a police interrogation. Real. Well, I guess

Brian Atlas>> there's I'm not going to get into the >> I mean, if if you can be arrested and being interrogated, in which case, you're not free to leave. Anyways, that's kind of besides the point.

Sofh>> Uh, what was your other criticisms? >> Honestly, that was pretty much it. >> So, >> then again, it could be a factor of my ADHD brain and my sleep deprivation. So, I will actually take you up on the bathroom break and the energy drinks, >> and I do appreciate it. Thank you, man.

Brian AtlasYeah, we >> I just I truly >> we're really just a a jail here. We're just, you know, with our energy drinks and our >> It's so bad. I'm getting confined. >> Our pizza and uh >> I'm just confused about the the like the

Sofhbright lights. Didn't you say something about water? >> Like Felicity's gone you refills like four times or something. >> No, no, that's that's not what I mean. I I said no. I said we absolutely do get water and we do get food, but there's

Sofhjust something about the environment and the atmosphere that it it I don't know, man. >> That's why Maybe I'm just not used to the Hollywood [ __ ] dude. This is probably how every podcast is run, but this is the first time I've gone on an

Brian Atlaseight-hour long podcast like this, so maybe this is how it's all supposed to be. >> Maybe that's why the wage gap exists. Well, I don't think it actually exists, but

Brian AtlasI think most men would be just chilling, having a conversation for eight hours. In fact, shouldn't women be better attuned to just sitting around having a conversation? And I don't think it's particularly physically hard.

Brian Atlas>> No, I'm not that good at sitting in one place for too long. I I get very jumpy. That's just me. So, >> my other question here is um you you had reached out, you DM'd us asking to put

Brian Atlasit put you on the show. Uh, you know, as far as you not, there should have been a perhaps an effort on your your part to

Brian Atlashave watched the show that you requested to be on and flew all the way from Florida to be here to do and took a train and did XYZ to be here. Don't you

Brian Atlasthink that says more about you than it would say about me? >> It could situation. >> Yeah. What is going on with the mic? You got to make me aware. I can't see the mic. So, you gota let me You got to let me know.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, just leave the mic where it is, please. Um, >> so isn't that more lacking on your part than anything that I'm doing on the podcast >> to an extent? Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Like you asked to be on the show, you know, you saw Kyra's clip. Like that was clearly the clip that you saw with Kyra clearly like a contentious adversarial conversation that we were having with

Sofhher. So I I don't understand where the confusion here is. >> Yeah, you're right to an extent. I'll be dead honest with you. I knew exactly what I was getting into and I knew exactly there would come a point where >> Oh, so you lied. >> What do you mean I lied?

Brian Atlas>> Well, you you Hold on. >> I didn't do like intentional research. >> But you said you knew exactly what you were getting into, but then also didn't I I'm a little confused. >> Well, I already see a pattern. For example, when you were you were setting

Sofhup the table, >> I noticed that in in the interview with Kyra, you had Kyra sitting specifically right here, which is very interesting that you put me right here as well. It seems like you also made comments about aren't you homeless? Bringing up a lot

Brian Atlasof personal things that had nothing to do with the concept of anything we were talking about. It just seems a lot of it was >> well, what what's the criticism of the positioning of where people what's the issue with the positioning? And then I'll do I'll >> adjust the some weird alignments to it.

Brian AtlasWeird. >> Either way, I >> weird alignments. What does that even mean? >> We're We're running in circles. >> I'm No, we're not running in circles. I'm asking for clarification. >> What was your next question, man? >> Oh, are you stonewalling? Is this what

Brian Atlasyou do in relationships? So, I think it's perfectly fair if you're Yeah, I know. Shock. That's exactly what you're doing. I think it's perfectly fair if somebody accuses you of something to at least have some sort of evidence to be

Brian Atlasable to back it up. Uh, I'm simply asking what you brought up, Brian. You're toxic. You put people in certain positions. Okay. I'm >> Can I say something? >> Hold on one sec. >> No, actually, I would like to listen to

Brian Atlasher talk because we're having a back and forth and you keep forgetting that there's a whole panel, man. >> So, I'm going to take back I'll let you say what you have to say. I'll speak. >> Look, you you you're the one who brought this up. >> You conveniently again brought it up

Brian Atlaswhen I was gone and Felicity was here. Uh conveniently wanted to make a criticism when I was away. I'm here now. I think I'm I'm not being particularly

Brian Atlasbelligerent, but I'm challenging you on your assertions. I think it's fair for you to explain your criticism. I mean, this is really milktoast push

Brian Atlasback here. I'm I have the kid gloves on conversationally. >> I already said what I had to say, man. >> But what what about the positioning did you object to that? I'm confused there.

SofhIs there some grand conspiracy? No, there is no grand conspiracy, man. There's no grand conspiracy to be dead honest. I am really exhausted. I'm going to grab another energy drink if that's okay and I'll let y'all continue the

Sofhconversation. I have to use the bathroom if that does that. >> Sounds a bit like >> avoidant. Well, I've been having to pee for the past like while I'm honestly so done with this. Dude, >> you're you're you're you're done because

Brian AtlasI'm giving you like a little bit of push back on your criticisms of of the show. >> No, I just need to take a break. Is that okay? >> I'm just asking you what is the

Brian Atlasobjection to the placement of people. I I'm trying to understand what the objection there is. >> No, it was just one of the weird alignments I noticed. I mean, >> what is I What does that mean though? I don't know what alignment means. What

Brian Atlasdoes that mean? >> It's just something I noticed. >> It feels >> Jesus Christ. Just the vibe. >> Yeah, just the vibes, dude. No, dude. >> I'm sorry, sir. >> I think it's a valid question. It was

Brian Atlasyour claim. I'm just I'm asking for you to explain your position. I'm I haven't I haven't even given you push back on your position. I'm just asking

Hannah (NYU)>> the bathroom, please. Mom, >> are if you want to talk about it when you come back? >> I'd love to, man. I think she brought it

Hannah (NYU)up because the questions were about geography and um world wars history. So a lot of us haven't been in school for 10 plus years which you know that seemed

Brian Atlaslike a gotcha. I think that was just her point in bringing it up. Uh, Felicity asks, "But >> you would acknowledge that that was like a 3minut filler conversation that she

Brian Atlasundertook while I was gone." And the 99% of the rest of the time of the podcast has been mostly >> about dating. Yeah. >> Dating related. So, uh, h, you had something. Go ahead.

Bri (Matchmaker)>> Yeah. Look, I think she's young and I think she's inexperienced and I've >> sisterhood. Go ahead. No, I mean, no, seriously though, I I want to stand up for her because she's obviously brought up the fact that like she's had issues

Bri (Matchmaker)with men and and look, I think you I think you've been nothing but respectful. I think you have done your part as a host. Like I have absolutely nothing bad to say about you or anything

Bri (Matchmaker)that you've done, but I also want to um kind of stand in the middle for her as well because she's clearly uncomfortable. She's clearly young, you know, she's clearly inexperienced. >> She wasn't uncomfortable when I >> She's uncomfortable. No, no, no, no.

Bri (Matchmaker)She's uncomfortable when I was gone. Hold on, hold on, hold on. And she had no problem amongst the women who weren't going to push back. She's uncomfortable with men. She's she's talked about it. I'm not saying >> Can I ask you a question? If I was black and she said she had a bad experience

Brian Atlaswith a black person that that would be ever a justification to say you're uncomfortable with a black person. >> No, I'm not. And I'm not saying you >> I haven't victimized her. I haven't victimized her. I'm not going to allow you to do this feminist thing where we're going to say because somebody hold

Brian Atlasbecause somebody has had a bad experience with men that they can then map that on to all men in the same way that I would object if somebody has had a bad experience with a black person that you can then map that on to all

Bri (Matchmaker)black people. That's racism. I'm against that. I'm also against sexism as it relates to men. >> I understand. I'm just trying to quell things and I can see that you're clearly irritated which is fair and and which is

Bri (Matchmaker)fair. I'm like validating your feelings. >> Well, I'm more up I'm more upset that she won't I'm more >> How is this funny? This is not funny. She's clearly uncomfortable. She's like about to cry, you know, and I and I get and I get you're also uncomfortable and

Bri (Matchmaker)you're also perturbed. Like I get it. I get both sides. However, like she just try to give her a little bit of a break. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. It's not about feminism. I am not a feminist in any regard. But like

Bri (Matchmaker)>> that's up for debate. But >> I'm not. Can anybody else say like can anybody else like I'm not pointing you out and I'm not saying that you have done anything wrong at all at all. >> I do think she is being very respectful and it is >> her or

Shay>> her I >> Yeah, she's not she's not being disrespectful. >> I think just like we should just tone it down a notch and like restart. >> Yeah. >> Well, the thing is I think none of you

Brian Atlaslike if if somebody's coming and making a claim against me, none of you here are going to come to my defense. I think it's perfectly reasonable that like I I don't think it's it's uh my my

Brian Atlasfrustration isn't so much with the content of what she's saying. It's that she's refusing to engage. Like I'm You think I'm a jerk.

Bri (Matchmaker)Why am I a jerk? I'm not going to tell you. Okay. Well, >> I can't I can't do anything with that. I want to explore why she thinks >> Can I Can I give you a little feedback? I think it's

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