She Says ALL Men Are UGLY?! GIGACHAD VlRGlN RETURNS! TayTay! College Feminists?! | Dating Talk #148
Guests
Identified Speakers
Key Moments
“"all right we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location"”
“"I actually haven't dated before like in a like official relationship so I've been single for 20 years"”
“"if someone is born with male chromosomes Brian and a female reproductive system are they a man or a woman"”
“"attractive starting with you honestly none"”
“"I don't I don't know that's my answer I don't know"”
“"ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10"”
“"I'm a natural body supremacist"”
“"I'm a virgin um I'm not necessarily looking for a vir Brian's against this"”
“"I even have a face tattoo you just can't see it I'm like all tatted everywhere"”
“"more than half of my tattoos my best friend also had and like I mentioned earlier in the show she unived her s and I found her body"”
“"I don't think women should be able to vote hot take"”
“"I don't think women should be able to vote hot take wow with context of course"”
“"all right guys we're going to wrap up there"”
Topics Discussed
Panel of 8 guests introduce themselves. Notable: Mason Gregoire returning co-host (virgin, going into Air Force); Taylor "TayTay" returning (men's mental health advocate). New guests: Jory (22, UCSB psych), Ahe (21, valley, jr college), Sonia (23, Bay Area, engineering), Sophia (20, UCSB econ, never dated officially), Maya (21, UCSB public policy, married), Alexa (35, Venezuelan-American, married 8 years, farmer). Relationship status round covers: single histories, first relationships, celibacy periods. Sophia reveals she has never had an official relationship (single 20 years). Brian discusses Nala returning to Christ (real or fake discussion).
Brian and panel review two female guests' Hinge profiles on screen. Discussion of dating app culture, group swiping with roommates, profile quality, and whether apps attract serious or entertainment-seeking users. Sophia describes using Hinge as a group activity with roommates (AirPlaying profiles on TV). Panel debates whether this is disrespectful to men using apps in good faith. Sophia had 4 meetups from apps; none progressed. Ahe describes going to thrifting as a first date activity.
TTS donor asks: if someone has male chromosomes but female reproductive system, what gender are they? Extended discussion on gender vs. sex, intersex conditions, Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (AIS), pronoun preferences, puberty blockers, and trans identity as mental illness vs. valid identity. Jory: any pronouns acceptable; gender is self-expression. Mason: calls trans identity a mental illness; wants compassionate treatment but no affirmation of delusion. Alexa: respects individual choices but won't affirm gender delusion. Brian: gave honest "I don't know" on AIS scenario; acknowledges complexity. Sonia: argues AIS and intersex aren't the same thing. Discussion of puberty blockers, detransitioners, conversion therapy. Pronoun round: Jory (any/all); Sonia, Sophia, Maya, Alexa, Taylor, Ahe (she/her); Brian (he/him).
Brian asks each guest what % of men they find physically attractive. Jory: 0% ("honestly none") — finds women far more visually appealing; identifies as pansexual. Ahe: 30-40% in person; lower on apps. Sonia: 50% in Bay Area (in person and apps). Sophia: ~1% on dating apps; ~20% at UCSB in person. Maya: ~25-30% in person; ~15-20% on apps. Taylor: ~45-50% in person; ~20-15% on apps. Mason: ~5% (very selective). Brian: ~50% of women walking around. Alexa: ~30-35% before marriage. Discussion of why women find apps unappealing vs. in-person. Brian attempts to show Mason off as attractive to Jory — she is unimpressed.
Discussion of whether trans women should compete in women's sports. Nearly all guests opposed. Maya: plays lacrosse at UCSB; says women fought hard for their sports space. Alexa: trans athletes should have their own division. Mason: men and women are not equal biologically; separate categories exist for good reason. Jory: doesn't care about sports but objects to exclusion in principle. Brian: most men's sports are technically open to women; asks if eliminating women's sports would be objectionable if open sports remained.
Stiffler (viewer) asks panel to rate own looks 1-10. Ahe: 7 (said "eight and a half, not in final form yet"). Kiki: 4 (per SPEAKER_09 segment at 11341). Others in rapid sequence (diarization partially merged): seven and a half/eight, seven, nine, five, eight mentioned. Brian: 5 ("solid five, you know"). Mason: self-rated 8 (per chunk 2 reference). Chat viewer (okydoi) rates panel left-to-right from clothing descriptions: leather jacket 5, denim jacket 6, black shirt 4, christmas sweater tomboy 4.5, fluffy jacket 4, ginger hair 7, black crop top 4. Jory objects: "the way we look is the least interesting thing about all of us."
Return to the attractiveness percentage question after gender debate detour. Jory reconfirms: one in a million. Brian tries to find a male celebrity she'd call attractive — fails. Mason expresses attraction to ~5% of women. Full panel goes around again for percentages; Sophia: ~1% on hinge, ~20% UCSB in person. Maya: ~25-30% in person / 15-20% apps. Taylor: ~45-50% in person / 20-15% apps. Brian: ~50% of women. Discussion of geography and dating pool quality (Bay Area vs. UCSB vs. national).
Going around table: what is everyone's type? Brian shares his full list (see "Brian's ideal type" topic). Jory: attentive, creative, passionate, no specific physical preferences, maybe long hair. Ahe: Black or Hispanic preferred; masculine, disciplined, goal-driven; not fashion-forward. Sonia: athletic/slim-muscular build; good hygiene; slightly shy but decisive; masculine. Sophia: artsy/confident; hygienic; mostly white guys by circumstance; surfer aesthetic; not specifically frat boys (had that phase); similar ambition level. Maya: white or East Asian; athletic; loyal, empathetic, Christian, emotionally aware. Taylor: god-fearing, ambitious, gym-goer, funny, family-oriented; Black or Mexican preferred; colored eyes, tattoos, nice teeth. Mason: God-fearing first; submissive/teachable; fit; natural body supremacist; chaotic energy / unpredictable personality (Jennifer Lawrence / Emilia Clarke type). Prefers virgin but not required. Gatekeeper role: Brian must approve his future partner.
Brian reads his full "ideal partner" list: slight preference for Asian or white women; short (4'9"-5'2" ideal); natural body supremacist (no implants, BBL, lip filler, labiaplasty, fake nails, heavy makeup); prefers natural body over surgically enhanced equivalent in all cases; no perfume; introverted/quiet/modest; submissive; low/zero body count; no bars/clubs; doesn't drink or do drugs; has praise kink; attentive/supportive of his mission. Showed video of woman doing deep bow; wants this as greeting from partner. Guests debate the bow: Ahe declines; Sonia says she'd do it if asked; Maya does curtsy demo; Brian accepts curtsy as alternative. Brian: "I'd prefer the bow but I will begrudgingly accept a curtsy."
Discussion of how tattoos and piercings fit into the Natural Body Supremacy framework. Brian: prefers no tattoos; small heart tattoo not a dealbreaker; scale matters. Tattoos may correlate with trauma, family issues, personality disorders — not always. Mason: tattoos may signal trashiness or financial irresponsibility; still not an absolute rule. Taylor: has full sleeve + face tattoo; pushes back on trashiness label. Sonia: has multiple tattoos, many shared with deceased best friend (sentimental). Alexa: has Harley Quinn sleeve. Discussion of why women find tattoos on men attractive (signal of danger/masculinity/aggression). Piercings: Brian less opposed than tattoos; not a fan of septum piercings. Sophia discusses nipple piercings casually; says many girls with small chests get them. Brian: tattoos/piercings done for women, not men; makeup/plastic surgery more done for men.
Mid-show WoW Classic discussion triggered by a Twitch raid. Sophia is a WoW Classic player (Alliance warlock); debate over gnome vs. human warlock racials. Panel discusses gnome INT buff vs. human reputation gain. Brian offers $1,000 to any panelist who can say where Atiesh teleports — no one gets it. Ahe prefers Call of Duty and Mortal Kombat. Brian: would you date a guy with a level 60 gnome warlock with Atiesh? Discussion of whether gaming = unattractive.
Jory argues patriarchy is real; examples: car crash test dummies designed for male bodies, medical research historically done on male subjects. Brian challenges both examples as not strong evidence of systematic oppression. Jory defines patriarchy as men being the default blueprint in society. Sonia: US is not a true patriarchy; compares to Afghanistan where women can't drive/go to school. Mason: argues lack of strong male leadership is root of societal gender confusion. Brian: the examples given are niche; military conscription is one counterexample that invalidates most feminist oppression arguments. Closing: Brian argues all feminist collective grievances fall flat against military conscription.
Sonia hot take: women should not have the right to vote. Reasoning: women are biologically nurturers; suffrage pulled women from family role, contributing to nuclear family breakdown. Brian: supports women voting but notes inequality — men received voting rights tied to Selective Service / military conscription obligation; women got voting rights without that duty. Mason: all men registered for draft at 18; women exempt; this is an inequality. Discussion: if women want equality, should they be subject to military conscription? Jory: no one should be drafted (ideally). Brian: draft will never be abolished politically; practically it remains. Reference to Ukraine: men 18-60 unable to leave country; women able to flee and live normally. Discussion of military physical standards differences between men and women. Extended debate on whether feminism is compatible with selective military exemption.
Brian wraps up. Final hot take: are men or women more oppressed? Mixed answers. Brian: all feminist oppression arguments invalidated by military conscription. Sonia doubles down on anti-women-voting position. Super chat read by Mason. Would you date someone who legally owns a firearm? Near-unanimous yes. Twitch raid to WoW Grandma 78 (300 viewers, playing World of Warcraft). Three no-shows at start of episode; producer Nick went into Isla Vista to recruit last-minute guests. Show ran until approximately 1 AM.
Brian Atlas