FINAL SHOW?! Goth Alt Catholic E-GIRL Came To DEBATE/DESTROY Brian? WOKE GIRLS! | Dating Talk 275

Date: 2025-12-29

Duration: 10h 24m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAmelia/Barbie >

SSamantha (Notes)>

NNatalia Haime Hughes >

AAlina (Russia)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02KK DNA(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lynn(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kaylee Jay(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Alina (Russia)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Natalia Haime Hughes(guest)

SPEAKER_12Amelia/Barbie(guest)

SPEAKER_13Tavy(guest)

SPEAKER_14Samantha (Notes)(guest)

Key Moments

Intro7 guests introduced, KK DNA arrives later

Key MomentNatalia discloses schizophrenia diagnosis

ControversySamantha pulls out written notes on oppression, becomes running joke

QuoteNatalia reveals 100+ body count, frames past as BC (before Christ)

ControversyKK DNA: white people have genetic predisposition to colonize. Concedes on Barbary slave trade numbers.

OtherBrian wraps year-end show after ~10 hours

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

7 guests + KK DNA arrives later.

Natalia Schizophrenia

Natalia discloses schizophrenia diagnosis openly.

Age Gap Debate

Extended debate on age gap relationships.

Oral Sex Debate

Heated debate on oral sex obligations.

Wage Gap Debate

Samantha uses prepared notes. Extended debate.

Natalia Body Count 100+

Natalia reveals 100+ body count, frames as BC (before Christ).

KK DNA Colonialism Debate

KK DNA argues whites have genetic predisposition to dominate. Brian counters with Barbary slave trade.

Year-End Wrap

Brian reflects on 2025, commits to continuing in 2026.

Transcript

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Brian AtlasWell, it's just not the same thing. >> Why not? >> Well, one person has to carry the baby and go through it and one person doesn't. >> But so in in instances where the woman doesn't want the kid and the man does,

Brian Atlashe has no say. He wants to keep the kid, she's like, "No, get get an abortion. Nothing he can do about it." In an instance where the woman wants to keep the kid and the man doesn't, he has no say. Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> She can keep the kid and then she can take away his bodily autonomy by siphoning his financial resources for 18, 19, 20, 21 years of his life, >> right?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. That's called being a wage slave, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, I mean, yeah, that sucks. >> Oh, that sucks. Uh, it sucks. >> I mean, I don't make the laws. I'm sorry.

Kaylee Jay>> There's no compassion. Well, hold on. If if I think I think there should be an option where which there probably is >> free will for this situation. If if you're a man and you get somebody

Kaylee Jaypregnant and you don't want the baby and this woman is like no, I need this baby. Like this is my, you know, this is my calling. I'm going to be a mom. Then write up a contract that says you're not ever going to be a part of

Kaylee Jaythis child's life. You own no financial thing. Have a lawyer find a way and make it reality. So that

Brian Atlasso a woman could allow for that, but she is an 100% the final determiner if she will allow for that to be the case. So a woman gets pregnant.

Brian Atlas>> That's still not men's free will. >> Well, the woman, let's say the woman gets pregnant, she wants to keep the kid. The man doesn't. Now, yes, the woman could be like, "You know what? I

Brian Atlasdon't want child support. Go be free. Go. Go. Run. Run. You need to be wild or [ __ ] Hold on. I have something for this. Hold on. I gotta play this. That's funny.

Brian Atlas>> Wait. [ __ ] Where is it? >> Uh, do I >> get >> I don't care how long it takes. I'm going to find it. >> I have a [ __ ] sound for this. >> I don't care if it takes me 50 minutes

Kaylee Jayto find it. >> I can't even find it. I'm [ __ ] >> Women are attracted to it. him free.

SPEAKER_06>> But for now, this wild buck has to roam free or he will die. >> Uh I think that's the first time I ever has to roam free.

Brian Atlas>> Now, yes, that could be arranged. However, even if let's say you even do the contract, >> okay, >> let's say you do the contract and the guy's like, "Look, um the woman's like,

Brian Atlas"Yeah, let's sign this contract." And you don't have to pay child support and blah blah blah. at any moment in the 18 years, even if there's a contract in place, >> like you could go to court over it.

Brian Atlas>> The woman could go to court because uh contracts can be illegal. In this case, this is technically even if you willingly agree to it. If the woman at

Brian Atlasany point in her sole determination changes her mind, maybe she needs money. Maybe she's like, "Oh, [ __ ] This is really hard. I need money." She goes to the guy, "Hey, look, can you give me

Brian Atlasmoney?" And he's like, "Nah. she can just be like, "Okay, well, I'm going to go to court and now the government's going to force you to pay." >> Yeah. >> So, the equitable thing, I think, in

Kaylee Jaythis situation is, yeah, the guy uh legally in a state where women have abortion, men shouldn't have to pay child support and have no responsibility to the child. >> If I think if there's a contractual

Kaylee Jayagreement at that time, then yeah, there I mean, people should be able to do that. >> Well, well, they're just >> they agree. If she's like, "I know you don't want this kid, but I want this kid. This is my, you know, it's going to be my kid. It's not your kid. It's mine." You know, like,

Brian Atlas>> can't you like relinquish like your parental rights too or something like that? >> Uh, you you can, but that doesn't change your child support liability. >> So, >> so she can still get child support from

Brian Atlasthat from him. So, so you could be like give her full custody, >> but she could still get child support from you even if you have a contract in place because the court would just ultimately be like, uh, you know what,

Brian Atlasthat's not enforceable. It's not legally enforceable. Uh, best interest of the child. Uh, so you can voluntarily either informally or formally enter into

Brian Atlasan agreement, but the woman reserves the right at any time to be like, "H, [ __ ] you. Give me your money." Basically. >> Interesting.

Brian Atlas>> So, uh, yeah. I don't know. Anyways, um, >> I think equal rights are a myth anyway. I'm not going to lie. >> Okay. And moving on. Wage gap. You said

Brian Atlaswage gap thing or whatever. Uh, the wage gap doesn't exist. >> Yeah, it does. >> There's no wage gap. >> Yes, there is. You can look it up. >> Nope.

Brian Atlas>> It's [ __ ] There's an earnings gap, but there's not like a sexist gender wage gap where women, you know, in the same field, they're getting paid less. That's [ __ ] >> Yeah, it is. >> You have this? >> No, it doesn't.

Brian Atlas>> The pay scale. Do you have it? >> Yeah, this one. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's the one. Um so the uncontrolled gender pay gap uh 82 cents for every $1 earned by men. Controlled

Brian Atlasgender pay gap. This measure measures median salary for men and women with the same job and qualifications. Uh women earn 99 cents for every $1 earned by men I believe. Is this pay scale this

Brian Atlaswebsite or do you know? >> Yeah. So basically the Can you explain to me what your sense of the gender wage gap is? It was like that. Like it's only a few cents now.

Kaylee Jay>> Is it? >> Well, it actually men are just more men have more opportunity. Like women weren't allowed to own homes. Like >> that's not true. >> In the >> Yes, it is. >> Women could own homes at every point. >> Women weren't allowed to own land. No,

Brian Atlasthey could. >> No, they couldn't. >> Yeah, they could. Women could own property and own >> Since the beginning of America. No. >> Yeah. Since the beginning of the United States. Yeah. >> No. >> So, okay. Let's say you're a man and you

Brian Atlashave two daughters and no sons and you die. To which man who is not your blood relative does your property go to? >> Well, I mean that's different. >> So >> women weren't allowed to buy and own

Kaylee Jayland. >> Well, they could if they have money. You're telling me? >> Well, but they didn't. Exactly. So that's the that's where it start. It all started at the beginning when men had more opportunity and it has slowly still been a thing because that has still

Brian Atlasaffected the way society is run. You're telling me America the bed the the the the founding [snorts] well not the founding America the great capitalist

Brian Atlasnation uh you're telling me in the 1800s 1700s some wealthy widow or some wealthy woman

Brian Atlaseither for however however the means in which he got this money goes to a property owner who's trying to sell their house he's not going to he legally can't sell it to her because she's a woman. That's completely ridiculous.

Kaylee Jay>> Okay. >> It's I mean look there women have been disadvantaged in some ways historically. >> Well yeah when everyone was when we when when every when America started people were given plots of land and who were

Kaylee Jaygiven those plots of land and who was given that sum of money to start men >> and their families by extension their families. >> Men and but the men are the ones in charge and who get to have that and make [clears throat] the choice of what they own where they go what they do. and

Brian Atlaswhere it goes >> have debt. Women couldn't have debt, which is kind of a privileged position to be in. Like >> that's like saying somebody they that's like saying yeah like you didn't have life but you didn't have death.

Brian Atlas>> Not really. >> It really is. That kind of is like you don't owe you don't get anything but that's good cuz you don't owe anything. >> Yeah. I think women to some degree had a privileged position in society. You might say it was like benevolent sexism

Brian Atlasor benevolent protection or whatever, but uh yeah, overwhelmingly I would say women uh I don't know, you have to take it in the full context of the historical disadvantages and advantages that the

Brian Atlasrespective sex has had. But really quick, just getting bring it back to the wage gap. Um what is the w like because so the wage gap that you're citing to that number 82 cents that doesn't factor

Brian Atlasin all these variables. It's literally this like feminist [ __ ] math. Like I It's literally [ __ ] math where it's

Brian Atlaslike or we're not going to consider the multivaried uh nuance and uh ver the complexity of

Brian Atlasthe the massive economic structure and comparisons between men and women's uh income and wealth and blah blah all this stuff. It's not factoring in any variables. It's literally just looking

Brian Atlasat Well, let me ask you this. Do you think it would be a good way to analyze this specific topic by simply only looking at all the money that men make and all the women, excuse me, all the

Brian Atlasmoney that women make? >> No. >> Like, wouldn't you, if you were doing a re uh study on the wage gap, you would want to perhaps look at do men work more hours than women? I

Kaylee Jaywould research all of the highest financially holding positions that there are in America. And then I would research how many of those jobs are held by men and how many are held by women. And then I would research how much the

Kaylee Jaymen are making and how much the women are making. And that would determine it. And determining by that women there are less women in those places and the women make less. >> You should stop your head on that one. So that's a different that's a different

Brian Atlasthing. So we can do an analysis of the gender breakdown of like a highpaying jobs or CEOs. However, you do acknowledge that most

Brian Atlasmen, most women who are in the workforce don't have super glamorous high-paying jobs. So you have to look you would have to look at kind of everything. But do

Brian Atlasyou think it would be fair to do a determination like try to determine if society is sexist by simply looking at all the money that men make and all the

Kaylee Jaymoney that women make and comparing it and drawing a conclusion from that? >> If it was an equal amount of men and women and their fields were balanced. I guess >> the fields are definitely not balanced

Kaylee Jaybetween men and women. Well, that's what I'm saying is the g pay gap is more relevant the higher up jobs that you have like like the lower that your job is the more commonly men and women will

Kaylee Jaybe paid the same but the higher up and more more like the CEOs and like the people who are making more and more money that is where the pay gap is bigger between men and women. >> Uh that's perhaps a component of it but

Kaylee Jaywould you agree >> and that's all I'm saying men have more opportunity to make more money in these higher positions. don't really agree. But would you agree though if the the commonly parited gender wage gap that

Brian Atlasnumber here? I I mean I'll just give you I'll give you the cards. I I'll lay my cards on the table. Uh that number it doesn't factor in hours worked. It doesn't factor in type of job. It doesn't factor

Brian Atlasin geography. It doesn't factor in seniority. It doesn't factor in uh level of educational achievement. It doesn't factor in overtime work. It doesn't

Brian Atlasfactor in hazard pay. It doesn't factor in uh I think I'm I'm probably forgetting like maybe a dozen more variables. So, do you think that it's

Brian Atlasstatistically coherent to do an analysis without factoring in variables? >> No. >> Okay. So, that's what the gender wage gap is. Men, all men, they're not

Brian Atlasthey're not looking at any of these variables. Men make this much money. Women make this much money. Don't you think that's kind of [ __ ] >> I don't really support the use of the

Kaylee JayRword like you're using it, but >> Okay. Okay. Don't [laughter] you think that's really stupid? >> Oh god. >> I mean, yeah, it doesn't show everything, you know? That's why earlier

Kaylee JayI wanted to see the statistics of the, you know, of the violence against men because you do need to see more details to really see more about what's real. Mhm. >> Yeah. But so um

Brian Atlas>> always >> you How about this? Do you acknowledge that there's a there is a gender gap between men and women? Uh men work more hours than women. >> Oh, I'm sure that's true because men are

Brian Atlasexpected to provide in America or in society. You know, in most societies, men are expected to provide. >> Speaking of this gets me into my final point on the gender wage gap, but a lot of these variables that we're talking

Brian Atlasabout. So men work more hours Okay. Well, so if you start controlling for hours worked, the gender or wage gap that is alleged to exist starts to shrink. And then as you start adding in

Brian Atlasmore variables, you control for the type of job, you control for geography, control for all these things, uh it shrinks to the 99 cents. Now, that's just looking doing an

Brian Atlaseconomic assessment. Men should pay on first dates. Men should provide and protect. Amelia, you agree? Kaylee, you agree. Lynn, you

Brian Atlasagree. Tavy, you agree. Samantha, you agree. Natalia, who's taking her schizo meds, agrees. Just kidding. Joke. Uh, Alina, agree. Do you

Brian Atlasagree >> that men should pay for dates >> on first dates? >> Yes, if he asks. For sure. >> Have you ever asked a guy out on a date? >> I've never. >> Convenient. Uh, men should provide protect.

Brian AtlasEvery single woman at this table says men should pay on first dates, men should provide, protect. I would argue the wage gap, even removing all the economic factors like

Brian Atlasmen work more hours, men work more overtime, men work more dangerous, dirty jobs, men are more likely to have injuries and death in the workplace. Women's own dating preferences

Brian Atlasare the sole I don't again wage gaps [ __ ] Women themselves with your own stated standards men

Brian Atlasshould provide men should uh pay for dates. You create a social pressure on men to be more motivated.

Kaylee Jay>> Men actually created that. >> Yeah. They used you men used to trade your my somebody's father would trade with somebody else's father their daughter for their cows or for their land or for whatever >> when's the okay >> back in the back back we're talking

Kaylee Jayright now. >> Well I'm saying but but everything leads into what it is now that it stems Yes. >> dowy that [ __ ] is by gone because this is the new form of it. >> No that's ridiculous.

Kaylee Jay>> It comes from something that men created. You got y'all decided women were up for trade and that women were worth a certain thing that you wanted to value. >> Feminist. Are you feminist?

Kaylee Jay>> Sure. I don't know. >> Do you believe men and women are equal? >> Do I believe men and women are equal? >> Yeah. >> Like how? I mean, I think men and women both have their own superpowers and

Brian Atlaswe're both beautiful divine beings. >> Uh should we be treated equally under the law?

Kaylee JayI mean just it I would say yes except for as we were just talking like women have something that legally is theirs that they have to go through that men don't ever have to go through. So there's different laws that I think

Brian Atlasshould apply to different people. >> Okay. Do you do you reject gender roles? Do you think gender roles are sexist? >> No. >> Okay.

Brian AtlasAll right. So, I guess finishing up on the wage gap conversation, then I believe that because of women's preferences, no, nobody, no man, no

Brian Atlaspatriarchy is forcing you to insist or want for men to pay on first dates. No patriarchy is insisting that uh men should provide for you. Go. The reality

Brian Atlasis men, excuse me, the reality is women have an inherent biological evolutionary urge for provider and protector. And you find it repulsive the idea most women

Brian AtlasI'm going to speak. Yes, there's some women who are going to be fine with what I'm about to describe. The idea of you being the bread winner and the man stays home and takes care of the kid. Somewhere deep down that's disgusting to you women. Somewhere deep down that's

Brian Atlasnot acceptable to you. a guy whose only ambition is to be a stay-at-home father. That is an issue for most women. Not saying all women, most women. And I think it's evidenced by the fact every single woman here says men should pay on

Kaylee Jayfirst dates. >> Can we take a poll, though, of everyone here? >> Every single woman here circled men should pay on first dates. >> Well, they should, but I I think that, but I don't think it's bad if a man wants to be a stay-at-home dad.

Brian Atlas>> Would you split the Oh, okay. It's not [snorts] cool. It's not cool for you to go 5050 on a first date, but you're fine with the man staying at home >> if he want if

Kaylee Jay>> how's the guy gonna pay on the first date? It's such a complete in >> Well, if a guy asks if somebody asks you on a date, which I swear I would never ask a man on a date, >> right? So convenient for you. >> Actually, I mean, I have actually I've

Kaylee Jay[laughter] I've hit on guys like I've asked not with the same frequency. >> No, but exactly. If a man asks me to take me out, duh, you're going to have to pay. You're the one who just asked me

Brian Atlasto take me out. Why would I >> You can't You can't map on my experience as somebody who has like a very popular podcast to like the average guy who has an average job. >> Well, that's but that Yeah, because it's

Brian Atlasunequal. Women have it's a different dynamic and it's just it's just what it is. But I'll tell you this, an average woman who like just an average woman, she's going to be asked out like dozens

Brian Atlasof times in like maybe a month even in in a year. You look at an average guy, he might get asked out once, twice, maybe three times

Brian Atlashis entire life, maybe. And I think most average men maybe never get asked out ever their entire lives. So this I you can't map on my experience where women come to me because I have some

KK DNAclout and map that on to the average guy who doesn't have any clout. Like that doesn't it doesn't work like that. >> I agree. Most guys aren't going to be all >> Yeah. But that's that's Yeah, that's a

KK DNAdifferent cuz I you know I kind of don't agree with that. I actually kind of I don't believe in like um I don't believe that men and women are equal. I don't.

KK DNABut I don't believe in a lot of things. So I feel like certain dynamics happen and that's what it is. Women, there's going to be I feel like men are like, >> how do I say this? I don't feel like we're equal in rule. I don't feel like we're equal in rule. I feel like we're

KK DNAequal in value. I feel like we're human. We all deserve life. Like, you know, stuff like that. But I feel like certain things are should go to the woman. Certain and certain authorities should go to a woman or certain authorities probably should go to a man in this

KK DNAcase. So that's a little tough for me. But I feel like as as I said like you you you are like you said you've got some clout. You've had that this this that and the

KK DNAthird. But that's the average woman regardless. And that's not a woman's fault. At the end of the day like if a man is going to approach her it's because that's just in a man's nature. They like to acrew multiple. Women

Brian Atlasdon't. >> Well, >> not are there women that do? Yes. But no, that's not really wired in a woman. That was a bit of a sidetrack though. I guess finishing off on the the wage gap

Brian Atlasthing is ultimately I believe the wage gap could be explained away entirely by women's own dating preferences. You are creating a mating pressure in men's

Brian Atlasdirection that doesn't exist in the reverse. Uh I've never had the expectation for a woman to pay for an entire date. Most men can never go into a date ever expecting the woman's going

Brian Atlasto pay for everything. Maybe you can go like maybe you can do 50/50 but generally speaking not all women but a majority of women do prefer men to pay for first dates. So that creates a

Brian Atlaspressure on men that doesn't exist in the reverse. Men also have the burden of initiative. Uh just like you said uh well whoever I should pay but you've never asked a guy out convenient. Uh

Brian Atlaswomen don't initiate like that. So even if the standard was well men shouldn't pay but whoever I should pay. If you never approach men, I mean, we're

Brian Atlastalking about the same thing here. I think the other component is,

Brian Atlashow do I frame this? Uh, ultimately because of women's traditional, sexist, gender role expectations of men,

Brian Atlasyou create the wage gap. Men are more motivated to make money. men are more motivated to make money because women expect to be provided for. Women like if

Brian Atlasif the if the bottleneck if the barrier for me as a man to get laid is I have to be financially attractive or provide or even pay on the first date, that's a

Brian Atlasfinancial burden on me that doesn't exist on you. So, oh, am I more sexually am I a more am I more attractive if I'm wealthy? Am I more sexually appealing if I'm

Brian Atlaswealthy? Do I have better options if I'm wealthy as a man, not as a woman? That doesn't Men don't really care about

Brian Atlasthat. Uh, generally I don't think money if you're a [ __ ] clown. Uh, maybe it helps a little bit, but you're still going to struggle. But, uh, will

Brian Atlasit give you a bit of an edge? Yes, it will help a little bit. I think other things are probably a bit more important than money. I think looks uh and personality are probably going to take you further than strictly just money.

Brian AtlasBut if you're obscenely wealthy, obscenely rich, that's going to give you some degree of access. But women's own preferences, women's own I it creates a

Brian Atlasmassive pressure on men to be more men are just more motivated to make money. If you want dick, does your job or your

Brian Atlasmoney situation have anything to do with your ability to get some dick? >> No. >> Now, to be fair, broke men can get [ __ ] Usually, they got to be charming or

Brian Atlasgood-looking or something else or just, I don't know, be in college, I guess. Be young. That that helps, you know, because young women probably don't care that much about money. Like, if you're a college girl, you don't care that much

Brian Atlasabout money. Maybe some of them care. Most college most college girls, they know the college guys are broke or, you know, don't have money, right? >> Um, but uh if I'm not willing to pay for

Brian Atlasif I go on a date with a girl and I don't I'm not willing to pay, that's going to that's going to maybe [ __ ] my chances up of getting a date, getting a girlfriend, getting sex, whatever, whatever. Men are very romantically and

Brian Atlassexually motivated. I think they're more romantically and sexually motivated than women are. Yeah, >> maybe that's due to testosterone. Maybe that's just >> that's highly debatable. >> That's just by I think men are more >> the ro the romantically that's a little

Brian Atlasdebatable. >> Uh >> that's a little debatable. >> Perhaps romantically, but I think there's no doubt that men are more sexually motivated. >> Yeah, that's accurate. >> Like women don't pay for sex. Maybe it's

Brian Atlasbecause they can get it so easily for free. Uh but men are so desperate for sex, they'll pay for it. They'll pay for it. you as women, you're not paying for

Brian Atlassex. Women really, there's some women, really rare, that pay for sex. Um, but anyways, I don't know. I don't think the wage gap is an example of equal rights, I guess. Um, let me see if there's

Brian Atlasanything else for that. Uh, [sighs and gasps] here, let's do this. Uh, was there anything else? Um, men should pay on first dates. Men should provide, men

Brian Atlasshould be shiverous, husband should be willing to die protecting me. Uh, hold on. Uh, Tavy >> Tavi, >> Tavy,

Brian Atlasyou say men should pay on first dates, men should provide, protect, men should be chivalous, husband should be willing to die protecting you, but you're going to keep your last name or hyphenating marriage. >> Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with hyphenating the marriage. I mean, or

Tavy>> is that traditional? >> Um, I never said I was traditional, but Oh, but to answer your question, um, >> hold on, let me let me just repeat this. These are your wants. Okay. >> Men should pay on first dates.

Brian AtlasTraditional. Men should provide protect. Traditional. Men should be chivalous. Traditional. You're a Christian. Traditional. Husband should be willing to die protecting me. Traditional. >> So I have to follow it all cuz I

Brian Atlasfollowed a couple of them. >> I Well, so technically technically people >> Did you make the rule? >> I did actually. [laughter] So yes, technically

Brian Atlasyou you are technically able to and allowed to pick and choose. And maybe you get it, maybe you don't. What I'm saying here is that's a raw deal for the man. That's unfair. Now, you might say life is unfair. Well,

Brian Atlas>> no. What I would say is, okay, we won't get married or if anything, I'll just ask Jesus what to do. >> I'm pretty sure Christian uh under I don't know if there's a prescription in the Bible. Hey, anybody in the chat, is there anything in the I don't know if

Brian Atlasthere is. I don't I I don't have the impression there is. Is there anything in the Bible about uh like a prescription as to the woman taking the husband's last name? I think this is a

Brian Atlastraditional thing, but I don't know if it's in like if it's >> is there about it being in the Bible. >> Anything in the Bible about it? >> Submit. Be submiss.

KK DNA>> Oh, actually I mean maybe it's under the perfume of submission. This goes exactly what I was talking about earlier though about how as a woman you step down when a man asks you

Brian Atlasto he expects all of these things like you're under his care like you know >> but what about the kids hyphenate? >> Oh no that that could be my husband's choice. >> Okay but you won't take his last name

Tavywhich is common. Why not? >> Uh I'm the only sibling that has my dad's last name. My other two siblings they have my mom's hyphenated and so I just want to keep my dad's last name.

TavyOkay. Um, >> but let's say my husband was like, "Honestly, I don't really like that." Then, um, I'd take it up with God, see what he has to say, and then listen. >> Oh, Ephesians 5:22. Submit to your own

Brian Atlashusbands as to the Lord. >> Yeah. So, I'll definitely have my husband. >> So, hold on. So, is there anything immoral about taking your husband's last name?

Brian Atlas>> No. Is there anything that in terms of Christian doctrine contradicts with a a Christian wife taking her Christian husband's last name? >> Uh maybe like uh different doctrine, but

Brian AtlasI'm non-denominational. So in my book, >> you're a Christian though. >> Yes. But there are different dominations. >> Well, there's nothing there's nothing in the Christian faith that would say it's like wrong to take your husband's last name. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Do you believe that uh wives should be submissive to their husbands? >> Absolutely. So, if you're uh I suppose soon to be husband, well, I mean, you could change your name after after the

Tavywedding, obviously. So, now your husband's like, "I want you to take my last name." >> I'll be like, "A fine. Let me go talk to God about it. God said to listen to you." >> Give me the real answer, not the true

Tavyanswer. >> I'm not I'm literally for real. >> Okay. So, you will do it then? >> Yeah. If he if he wants it. >> What do you mean? >> And if God says like >> Why were you arguing with me then for the past 3 minutes? >> Because you just asked for my opinion. Like if I wanted to, if I want to. No.

Brian AtlasBut if my husband's like, "Oh, bae, like I want you to then." Yeah. >> Well, that's kind of implied. But >> you asked for my opinion. >> No. The question is or the statement is

Brian AtlasI will keep my last name or hyphen in marriage. This would suggest to me regardless of your husband's uh want for the name change or not, you saying you will keep your last name regardless of

Brian Atlashis wants. >> My bad. I didn't know you were going to be a lawyer about it. Yeah, it's just logic. >> Okay. >> Yeah, it's crazy. >> Oh, is Natalia Is Natalyia still here or is she What's her deal? >> Right. I want water.

SPEAKER_07>> Oh, wow. >> What What does she >> Is she on the couch or No, I mean >> Okay.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> I think I just had to ask a lot to make sure that I'm doing what I am doing as best I can with ignorant knowledge.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Gotcha. Okay. Um, you said you you would keep your last name in marriage. >> Um, so it's a I had a name that was so

Natalia Haime Hughespopular that when I looked myself online, I was like, I can't find myself. And so then I changed my name to something that is unique just to literally work with the algorithm.

Brian Atlas>> All right. Okay. Um, all right. I need to wait until everybody's back before I get into some more of these, but uh old adult age gap relationships are wrong. We talked about this a little bit at the beginning, but

Brian Atlasyou guys just let me steamroll that convo. Um 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old wrong. Uh I don't know if anybody else

Amelia/Barbie>> you circled adult age gap relationships are wrong. I think to a certain extent like I my max is 10 years before I think it becomes a little

Brian Atlasstrange. >> Okay, I'm just we already talked about age gap. >> Uh let's see. A woman's career money status makes her more attractive

Brian Atlasto men. >> That's from my own personal experience. Yeah, I would say generally speaking, uh, Tavy, you also agree with that. Samantha, you think you also agree a

Brian Atlaswoman's career, money status makes her more attractive to men. Uh, okay. So, disagree. I strongly disagree. Your

Brian Atlascareer, your status, your money, >> men don't care. It doesn't make you more attractive. It could be financially beneficial, but it's not doesn't make

Brian Atlasyou more attractive. >> I have a question for you. >> Wait, one quick thing. And one of the reasons I think men don't care about, you know, your money, your status, your

Brian Atlascareer, is because of number one, men should pay on first dates. Men should provide, protect. Even when you guys do make money, you don't share your resources the same way men share their

Brian Atlasresources. So when y'all make money, that's your money. Y'all not really like sing on men in that kind of way. You don't really sing on men. Even your boyfriend, like you don't really be spending money on men like that. Some

Brian Atlaswomen do. I'll be fair. Some women do. Some women buy, oh, you buy them an Xbox one time a year. Congratulations. Men really be sing on on women in terms of money. >> Men be giving money to women. They're not even [ __ ] They're not even

Kaylee Jaysleeping. >> It just depends. >> Yeah, but that's because he wants to. He's not doing that. >> He's a [ __ ] s. He's a He's a trick. He's a He's a mark. He's a sucker. >> But when I have a my money, when my money is super up, like I'm so happy to

Kaylee Jaygive it all to my man if he's if he's struggling. Like, I just spent all of my money to get this take this guy to Mexico, get him there, have the best time, whatever he wanted to do, like because I could and I wanted him to be there, you know? And I [clears throat]

Brian Atlasthink >> I don't so I don't dispute that women do do these things. Um, however, men typically don't see the benefits of a woman's wealth or a woman's money. Like,

Brian Atlaseven when a woman's like I've I remember when I was a young buck in my mid20s. >> Uh, I remember I messed with this girl on a dating app who was an attorney and

Brian Atlasback then, so she w she was out earning me. I messed with her and in her bio she's like, "Yeah, I'm an attorney. I make good money, blah blah blah, but I still expect the man to pay on dates." I'm like, "So, okay, then what the [ __ ]

Brian AtlasWhy should I care about your career? Why should I care about your money? You still expect even though you're you outearn me, even though you have more money than me? Even though you you make more money than me, I still got to pay. So, it doesn't matter if you have money

Brian Atlasbecause I don't I don't reap any benefits. I don't reap you could be super rich and successful. Most men aren't going to reap a uh any sort of benefit by being in a relationship with

KK DNAa girl like that." >> Really, I agree. But I really I really want to say this because you even said something earlier about how we were talking about when um when there's a

KK DNAcertain way that you've been spoiled in a certain way, it's always in the back of a mind of a of a guy's mind. I just had this conversation last night with my baby cousin and my brother. I I think I agree with you. I don't think it's

KK DNAbecause of the reason on those on those on the on those papers. I think it is innately wired in a man to not do that. Like even when you to not take not even take money from a woman, it does not feel good to

Natalia Haime Hughes>> I did that [ __ ] tonight. >> Well, that's that's a certain kind of man. That's all I can say. >> Literally every opportunity, Brian, I will keep giving you money. [laughter] >> But like all around >> she's sing.

Brian Atlas>> All right. All right. [laughter] Well, yeah, you got to I do expect I expect the Venmo and Cash App payments once a week. [laughter] >> Okay. >> Oh, guys. Is this a bit >> Get yourself some like Get yourself some

Natalia Haime Hughessunglasses or something first. >> I'm a nice guy. >> I need a like I need a blindfold to be honest. But [laughter] >> let's just give her a [ __ ] blindfold. Do we have Hold on. Let me see. >> That would really make it easier. >> Wait, wait, wait. I have an idea. I have

Brian Atlasan idea. >> Oh god. Uh, no. I was going to get >> Yeah, the I was going to get one of the [ __ ] Spartan helmets, but that's >> the sweatb band. The sweatb band. >> Look at my hair.

Kaylee Jay>> Do I don't know. Do we have something? >> The red, white, and blue sweatb band. >> Where this? That's kind of I don't know. >> Too tight. >> I don't know. >> That's what I was thinking earlier. The Spartan thing, but

Brian Atlas>> um >> that's too too big of eye gaps. Here, show us your mother mothering nature. >> You don't have the black baby anymore. >> Uh, here this you get the Asian baby.

Brian Atlas>> And then I do have a black baby here. >> Oh god, let me guess. It's for me. [laughter] >> We also have a uh a a pre like what's it called? A

KK DNA>> Why is this here? >> Yeah, he's a bit he's a bit small. >> Aborn early. >> Okay, I think this has to go to Yeah, it's only justifying.

KK DNA>> I >> It's only correct. >> Hold it. >> Oh my god. You do it to the only black baby. See how [laughter] >> See? >> [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> Hey, clip that. >> Exposed. [laughter] [ __ ] racist. Exposed. I'm I mean, it's over. It's so over. Um, wait. What the [ __ ] were we talking about? >> We're talk Oh, I was saying about

KK DNA>> Oh, her eyes. I But I don't know. I have a black hair band if you wanted. >> That would be great. Thank you. >> Here, just hook her up. Somebody help this girl. Somebody help this girl. Let's >> mine. It'll probably be better.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> I don't know. A trash bag. I mean, I was thinking like, what are we going to use for a blindfold? >> Never a trash bag. I still have my question for you. >> I still have my question.

Brian Atlas>> Anyway, I'm try to I try to be humble. >> I [laughter] you know, look, ultimately, I don't know. Um, I just don't think women share their

Brian Atlasresources with men to the same degree in the same way that men will share their resources with women. So even if she's

Brian Atlaslike also I think that women um a successful woman, she's going to want to date a successful guy generally.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. Uh, I think women want to date same or up when it comes to like, you know, like a a male attorney, a male doctor,

Brian Atlashow about this? A male doctor will date a female nurse. A female doctor ain't dating a male nurse. A male attorney, he'll date a barista. A female attorney,

Brian Atlasshe ain't dating a barista. >> So, I think women move differently. I'm not saying that that's wrong. Mhm. It's just different values. >> But ultimately, uh, and yeah, maybe you

Brian Atlasdo get into a relationship with like a girl who makes good money, but you probably make good money, too. And even if she like at that point, it does whatever. Okay. I already make good money. I don't care.

Brian AtlasBut, uh, >> so, but you said earlier that a woman that something like the career doesn't make her more attractive to you. Is that correct? >> Uh, yeah. her career. Like for example,

Amelia/BarbieI'm doing decently well, let's just say, >> right? >> She could work at Chick-fil-A, don't care. >> Okay. So, a girl who in theory would

Amelia/Barbiegive up her career later on for you, have kids, meets all the boxes, if she was doing her nursing or doctorate and she wanted to finish that to and she has ambitions and goals and dreams that she

Amelia/Barbiedon't want to let her inner child die off like that. She wants to fulfill that. you know, that was her dream since she was a kid. How is it more attractive to be work or the same for somebody to

Amelia/Barbiebe working in a fast food at 25 versus a Thank you so much. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. I'm I'm >> I'm just curious what your opinions are because for me like

Amelia/BarbieI I don't really understand. I want to understand what your thought process is there. uh the thought process. >> Doesn't that make it infinitely more attractive that she has goals and ambitions and she's not working a

Amelia/Barbiedead-end job that she's working towards something maybe as you are but she'll still give that up for you in the future cuz that's what you want. >> I don't think it would really change the attractiveness level. A woman's

Brian Atlasambitions should be to serve her man and have a bounty of children [clears throat] >> and raise those children

Brian Atlas>> and take care of the man, take care of the family, take care of the household. >> Women can, a woman could be uh work at

Brian AtlasChick-fil-A and have ambitions that transcend material and financial gain. She could want a bounty of children and she's infinitely more ambitious than the

Brian Atlaswoman who wants to have the who wants to be the CEO. I think that's >> to me. I think that that's more ambitious. The woman who wants to

Brian Atlas[ __ ] create a dynasty with a [ __ ] real [ __ ] G uh than just, oh, I want to be a boss babe and make money and be a CEO and have like maybe one kid

Brian Atlasby the time I'm 40. Nah. The real gangster woman is the woman who wants to have 10 kids with a [ __ ] G. >> G the top joke. >> So when you're

Kaylee Jay>> That's gangster. >> So yeah, [laughter] >> hard R. I love it. >> That's gangster. >> That's gangster.

Kaylee Jay>> Gangster. For me it Yeah. Like piggybacking off that. For me it is. Yeah. It's attractive when a man has ambition and is has a drive, has a

Kaylee Jaypassion. So for you, you're saying that attraction comes from a woman having that ambition, drive to a f like to having a family. >> Yes. Ambition for family, ambition for

KK DNAchildren, ambition for me. >> I like that. >> I think that's I don't I don't agree. I don't like knock anything you're saying because at

KK DNAthe end of the day like I just think you're using the wrong words. I think a wife's ambition is not everybody's meant to be a wife. Not everybody's meant to be. This is how you create people who

KK DNAare unhappy and bitter and bad mothers because they feel like they've given up dreams or certain things that they really didn't want to. And I think that we should trust women when they say that they don't want children or that they

KK DNAthey they are more ha they they feel like they belong in artistry or I don't know doing nails, hair, things like that. I think that's two different types of women. I don't think that's a woman's thing. I think

Brian Atlasthat's a wife's thing. >> Hey, look, I mean, I'm not I'm not super hardline on this. There are some women who don't want to have children or maybe just want one kid or two kids and they're not whatever you want to you don't want to

Brian Atlashave kids. I I honestly don't even care. Some people are like, "Oh my god, you're so that's >> I don't care. Do if you don't want to have kids, that's totally fine. Don't care. I'm just saying the woman that I

Brian Atlaswant uh from my perspective, from my worldview, uh the ambitious woman is not the woman who wants to work some [ __ ]

Brian Atlaswage slave corporation job sitting in the an office under what what are those lights? The >> LED wants to sit under [ __ ] fluorescent lights looking at Honestly,

Brian Atlasmost of these corporate jobs are [ __ ] adult daycare. your little email jobs where it's [ __ ] adult daycare. It's [ __ ] all these jobs are [ __ ] You're barely doing anything. You're

Brian Atlasserving a corporation. Serve me instead and I will give you a bounty of children and I'm going to take care of everything. You're never going to have to work a day in your life. All the bills are going to be p. I'm taking

Kaylee Jaycare of all the finances. Take care of me. Take care of the family. Take care of the house. Take care of the kids. >> Perfect. >> To each their own. I think if you want you need to find a woman who wants to be

Brian Atlasmarried and you'll easily find that, you know, like that's that's a I think that is a consciousness that's >> Oh, shut up. >> I'm not I'm not going to get married. But hey, uh whoever I end up longterm with, everything's going to be taken care of. She never has to work. She's

Brian Atlasnever going to have to work a day in her life. Uh I mean, >> wait, so why not birth your children? >> Seven, preferably >> while you're not married to her. >> While you're not married. >> Yeah.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Um yeah. So, like here comes my ignorance on the Bible. Like, oh my god, stop saying that, girl. >> Sorry. Your ignorance. >> Wait, by the way, this I'm not this isn't a religious thing.

Brian Atlas>> It would be it would be contradictory, in fact, to religious uh to Christianity for me to not want to be married. >> Yeah, >> I'm not. >> Definitely not. >> I have pro-Christian sentiment.

Brian AtlasLove it. Maybe one day I will become a Christian, but uh at the at the moment, yeah. So I'm not coming at this conversation from a religious perspective.

Brian Atlas>> So nothing at all spiritual. >> No marriage? >> No. >> But I can I can be loyal to one woman and stay with her for the rest of my life and have kids with her. >> Why wouldn't you want to get married?

Brian AtlasWhy not have a wedding? >> L marriage. L marriage. Raw deal in the West. Fix the fix the laws. Then we can talk. >> Is it like a financial thing? >> Yeah, financial thing. >> Would you like have a cute little wedding and stuff? Tell you what, if

Brian Atlasshe's a billionaire, I'll be the standup. Then I'll get married to her. Then we can get married. >> Not legally. >> You could have a prenup. >> I don't care about prenups. Prenups are [ __ ]

Kaylee Jay>> So where's the point where you tell this woman like, "Oh, I want to be with you forever and I want you to have my kids." If it's not like proposing marriage, >> it's just >> I don't know. We Let's

KK DNA>> How How does she know that's where you guys stand? Do you know what I mean? >> [ __ ] I'll tell her. Oh, we've been dating for a year and a half, two years. Let's pump out some kids. >> Yeah, that's crazy because I just feel So, what's more important to you?

KK DNAMarriage or children? Because I I just don't see one without the other. >> Marriage is not important to this. >> Well, you would agree that you can have children outside of marriage, right? >> Well, yeah, you can. Obviously, >> a lot of people do. >> Yeah, a lot of people do, but I don't I personally don't think that you should.

Brian AtlasI don't I don't see how that I >> Do you have sex out of marriage? >> I've had sex out of marriage before. >> Okay. >> But I haven't had children out of marriage, though. >> Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, it's a little more >> differentated. It is. So, you'd rather

Brian Atlascommit to children before marriage. >> Are somewhat interrelated, but um >> you'd rather commit to children before marriage. >> Yeah. >> Interesting. >> Why? I don't want to get married. So, yeah, of course, of course, I would have

Brian Atlaschildren before marriage. >> Um yeah. >> Uh did you have a question on the the money thing or whatever? >> I think I asked my question.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Um, I think there's just one or two more here. Oh, past should not matter. Uh, Lynn, you agree? Past should not matter. Ta T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T Tavy Tavy on passion not matter. Samantha, passion not matter.

Brian AtlasUh, should pass matter? >> I have a really >> Should pass matter. >> Body count? >> Oh, like for a woman? >> Yeah. >> It depends. >> Going around the table, uh, what's your

Amelia/Barbiebody count? I'm not disclosing, but you could cut some fingers off and still have one hand and they would be there. >> Okay. Body count? >> No clue. >> Come on. Oh, wait. No clue. Like you

Kaylee Jayforgot >> like I used to have a list and I deleted it. >> Oh, like on your phone >> like like >> like you had a little >> Yeah, like nine years ago I deleted it, but >> Oh, wow. That's That's >> It might be in your deleted >> Oh, no. I've checked.

Kaylee Jay>> Maybe you should know if I had it. I I would actually because I I regretted it, >> you Did you um I did >> So did you lose track? >> No, I just had a

Kaylee Jayum traumatic experience that made me not want to keep track anymore. >> Understood. [sighs and gasps] >> And even a white baby, >> I'd be such a good father.

Kaylee Jay>> Don't have a baby with this man. >> So, uh you lost track though of the body count. >> There was just a traumatic thing that happened that made me not want to keep track anymore. Well, just to be clear,

Brian Atlasbody count, uh, I think it only factors in consensual, like Right. >> Yeah. So, if it was non-consensual, I wouldn't consider that body count. >> Yeah. >> For the sake of this, >> but that's when I stopped counting.

Brian Atlas>> Um, do you know, do you have a range that you want to estimate? >> No. >> Ballpark? >> No. >> Guest? >> I don't think that's anyone's business. >> I Wait, do you put the body count

Brian Atlaspassion on that? Damn. Who's going to be a trooper and answer this question? What about you? I'd rather not. >> Come on. Be a good sport. Come on. >> Body count. >> Lead the fifth. >> Body count.

Brian Atlas>> More than five. Less than 20. >> More than 10. Less than 20. >> More than five. >> More. Yeah, I know. But more than 10, less than 20. >> Maybe like around 10. >> Okay. Give me the Asian baby.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Don't throw it. Be gentle. >> Take it. Um, you can tell

Brian Atlas>> I feel like there'd be I'd get clipped if I did it to a black lady. So, >> you already did it for the first put it back, Alina. >> That's what I'm talking about. >> Your boyfriend. >> He proposed to her.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Proposed to her. >> Wow. Okay. Um, body count you in the blindfold. >> Blindfold. >> Um, yeah, sure. Call me blindfold or something. [laughter] >> So, girl, >> Natalia

Natalia Haime HughesSo like there's these things called rituals that you don't realize that you're actually potentially like >> Do you know Let me just interrupt you really quick. Do you know how the Constitution had a preamble?

Brian Atlas[laughter] >> Well, you got that preamble. >> The Constitution has a preamble. >> Which preamble? >> The preamble of the Constitution of the United States. >> Yeah. The beginning of it. similarly

Natalia Haime Hugheshave a preamble to >> every [ __ ] thing you say. [clears throat and laughter] >> I I I would love to talk more, but I'm um I'm just not a great communicator and

Natalia Haime HughesI am trying to just really be like here's a thing, here's a thing, here's a thing, but I'm [laughter] just like I don't really have a lot of time to talk for hours, you know? So, it's okay. >> So, he asked you your body count is just

Lynna number. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> You either say the number or >> You just say a number. Yeah, it's that simple. >> All right. It's like perhaps in the hundred or something more. [laughter] >> Could they be the one?

Brian Atlas>> Wait. Um that you slept with. >> Wait. No judgment. >> Yeah, that's pretty fun. >> If you could see me right now, my face is completely judgment free. >> Well, I So, I think I really messed

Brian Atlasthings up though with >> one question. Did you say it's uh in the it's like 100 to 199 or when you say hundreds, do you mean it could be 200,

Natalia Haime Hughes300, 400, 500? >> Um, it's like over a hundred and I >> what? >> Um gosh, I want to say like maybe below 200, but

Natalia Haime Hughes>> um my point is it's really like something that I regret because I think I did so much damage. I didn't even realize how much damage I did. And I like thought it was like, oh, you know,

Natalia Haime Hugheslike free love. Oh, male loneliness epidemic. Oh, you know, whatever. I'm a hippie. [laughter] And I was an atheist for a while. I was an agnostic. And then I was like, oh my

Natalia Haime Hughesgosh, like how what did I do? So, there's like um some real bad stuff that can come from um like all sorts of crazy supernatural whatever stuff. You're opening portals with me.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Talking about STDs, >> sexual encounters. Well, >> herpes. >> I mean, >> was it herpes? >> Um, >> it was herpes, was it? >> No, it wasn't. AIDS. Well, [laughter] >> I mean, I didn't get the Gosh, did I get the vaccine for herpes? I don't know.

Natalia Haime HughesBut, uh, no, I don't have AIDS or anything. Um, >> no. >> Um, >> the black whooping cough. >> Uh, no. >> Crabs. >> No. >> Chlamydia.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> It's the demons. That's >> I mean, look, that's treatable. Yeah, >> but but I warn you guys that >> you still have it. >> No, I warn you guys really [laughter]

Natalia Haime Hugheslike >> don't like mess around with sex too much because it can really damage things in ways that I don't understand. >> Well, I mean, if you don't get some of those things treated, it can lead to

Natalia Haime Hughesinfertility. So, >> besides the STD stuff, there's like spiritual stuff that I don't understand for sure. >> Yeah. >> Do you believe in God? See, >> that's an interesting question. See, um,

Brian Atlas>> do you believe in a god? >> Yeah. Do you believe in anything? >> I'll say this. I have very pro-ch Christian sentiment. >> Okay. >> I think religion and Christianity is a

Brian Atlasforce for good. Uh, however, my own personal belief is not there at the moment. Maybe one day it will be there, but I I wouldn't lie.

Brian AtlasAnd I think part of being a religious person, believing in God, believing in some higher power should point you towards being a trutht teller. And I would not lie. So at this point, no, I I

Brian Atlasdon't have a belief, but that belief may manifest >> at some point down the road. And hopefully maybe I I don't know if hopefully is the right word. Maybe it does.

Brian Atlas>> But at this point, at this point, >> I am lacking in belief of a god, >> right? just the faith itself. Yeah. >> Uh >> so I'm just being honest though. It's

Brian Atlasnot there. I don't want to lie. I'm just being honest. >> So when she says that it has a lot of spiritual effects that doesn't and that doesn't really like necessarily hit you for real. >> Maybe I was interpreting that more from like a psychological perspective. So

Brian Atlasyeah, you can get STDs, but I do think that there can be a psychological scar, a psychological harm. >> Um so >> uh from engaging in a lot of sex.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Yeah. Uh there's also like I didn't believe in the supernatural world for so many so many years. I was like, "Oh, okay." Like maybe there's evidence for ghosts. Maybe there's evidence for

Natalia Haime HughesJesus. Like I was just like tiny tiny bits of data like just challenging

Natalia Haime Hugheseverything. And um then I like realized how much I like um hurt myself by being

Natalia Haime Hughesin a ritual that um maybe caused a lot of damage unfortunately. And I didn't >> ritual >> like a sexual ritual. >> You had an orgy. >> Uh it was something. I don't want to explain too much.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Please tell me it wasn't >> I don't want to explain too much cuz I don't want people to do these things. I want I just want to say that there's stuff out there BBC >> that um >> the BBC >> is very dangerous. >> Okay. Never. Sorry.

Brian Atlas>> From what I can tell. >> Oh my god. >> As a person who doesn't know that much about the Supernatural >> going to end up clipping this episode for my editor. Yo sh I don't know if you're going to ever Christian send me a

Brian AtlasInstagram message if if you see this. Also my homeboy Oh my god. Demetrio is that wait [ __ ] I can't even pronounce it. My my Greek homeboy who helps me

Brian Atlaswith the editing and Christian uh tell me if you see this part just for the the clips because people are going to be like why the [ __ ] is she wearing a blindfold? Can you say can [laughter]

Brian Atlasyou just say something right now like I'm wearing the blindfold because I'm over stimulated or over >> sensory something or explain it I guess.

Natalia Haime HughesUm, so I was seeing things on the screen during our podcast that made me feel bad and I was praying and asking about um

Natalia Haime Hugheswhat I should do. >> Oh, I thought it's not the bright lights. >> No, it's um >> you saw >> like when we were talking about very we were talking about very controversial

Natalia Haime Hughessubjects. Okay. >> And then it was like oh my goodness like what do I do? So, um, yeah, that's when I just closed my mind. >> Just say that you have like [laughter] >> just lie. Just say you're >> gonna say bride in here or something. I

Natalia Haime Hughesfeel like that's easier to >> I want to tell the truth as much as possible. >> Okay, whatever. That's fine. Um, >> uh Oh, okay. So, body count in the

Brian Atlashundreds and question. Was this like what was it like a you said it was cuz you referenced male loneliness loneliness epidemic which is

Brian Atlasa term that I've really only heard the past 3 years. Are you saying that you acrewed this body count in the past 3 years? >> No. >> Oh cuz you're 29.

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> Okay. So when did this start? Was there a period of time where you just were running through these little [ __ ] boys?

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Well, I was um Darren, you know, I was really hoping to work for the Trump administration, but I don't know. I just got to like focus on telling the truth. So, >> I [laughter] mean, [ __ ] you're going to see if you end up working for Trump.

Natalia Haime HughesTrust me, you're going to see way worse [ __ ] than some of these comments. >> Well, certainly >> these liberals and Democrats are not going to like you. Let me tell you. >> I know. I I uh you got >> I really challenge the norms.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Uh but okay. What can you just answer the question though? >> Um so I was like uh I was in like a long-term relationship and then I

Natalia Haime Hughesswitched around polyamory and then I switched around celibacy and then just like like whatever. just not really looking for a husband that desperately.

Natalia Haime HughesUm because I was focused on becoming a doctor and I was like, well, I'm going to move for residency. I'm going to move for medical school. I'm going to move

Natalia Haime Hughesfor this degree. So, like I can't really focus on um pulling a guy around the country to go on this medical school

Kaylee Jayjourney with me basically. >> So, how many years was it that this all happened? >> Yeah. Thank you. >> What was the time frame? It was since you lost your virginity when you were 15 or it was since you and this one guy broke up which is only the last two

Kaylee Jayyears or it's the last 6 years or how was the time period >> the majority of the bodies? >> Yes. >> That you slept with not murdered >> was in in one year and six years. >> What

Natalia Haime Hughes>> when were they acquired >> generally? >> Gosh, I would say I have to think about that for a second. Um

Natalia Haime Hughes>> um sorry it was like [music] it was age like 20 to 26 about or something like that. >> One eternity later. >> All right. Thank you. Appreciate it. Body count >> five >> up. Sorry. >> Range. Give us a range.

SPEAKER_03>> I can't. >> Elena >> two.

Brian Atlas>> Body count. >> Going this way now. You said 5 to 20. >> 20. I said kind of >> boo you guys. >> You guys boo.

KK DNA>> None your business. >> It's because it doesn't matter. Like what about what about man when they see this? >> Like you know what I'm saying? I don't want him like what if one day I do meet a man I like I don't want him to see me talking about like exactly girl I don't

Brian Atlasknow that's only just in case you never private stay in private >> okay uh I'm let me just check the questionnaire I'm pretty sure we're mostly done with the questionnaire few more things and hopefully I'm going to try to get this wrapped up here uh

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